United Kingdom

[Splatt]

Weeeeeeeee that was fun! Should I post pictures? :P

[Dirty C]

Weeeeeeeee that was fun! Should I post pictures? :P

Yeah, go on.

[Molly]

Matt luv, Happy fucking birthday mate...

Mx

[Aly Fell]

Hells teeth on a bike... Matt kept that quiet! A very merry un-birthday to you! :pirate:

[gyre]

Great meeting Molly. Splatt and I well enjoyed it :)

Thanks for making it happen. It was great to meet up with all you folks. You made an outsider feel very welcome.

-- gyre --

[Matt Dixon]

Heh. Thanks, kids.

[Molly]

oh, look at that, its Summer Puddings birthday too!

'appy Berfday me ole choina....

Mx

[Dirty C]

How old are ya, Matt? Go on! Tell us!

And what did you guys get up to yesterday? Was a Thunderdome had?

Oh, and happy birthday Spud!

[oishiiniku]

Oh, and welcome Oshiiniku! Do we know you, by the way? We met a Nick in San Fran I believe..

Cheers for the welcome! Damn, I wish you had met me in San Fran. That would have meant I went to the CA workshop! I work at Free Radical in lovely, picturesque Nottingham.

How was the sketchfest anyway? Any pictures?

[RES]

Happy late birthday to Matt and Summer

Hi oishiiniku
Do you work with a guy called Jake?
Update I’ve just checked out your thread and found old cakeypigdog there so you do know him hurray. Get kicking his slack ass and make him post more.
Nice work sheets by the way.

[oishiiniku]

RES: Unfortunately, I have to sit next to that whiny bastard. :wink: Only joking, he's a top bloke. You work over at Rare, right?

[RES]

Yep Rare the place to find me do me a favour and say purple monkey dishwasher to cakeypigdog the none sketchbook thread owner.

[Dirty C]

Guys, bit of an open question for you midlanders working in the gme scene here.

How does one actually go about getting into one of your places? I'm guessing it has something to do with actually applying for jobs, or somesuch bollocks. One day, y'see, I hope to stop wearing this pinstripe suit, making loads of money and living in a place I love, and start earning something south of the minimum wage to draw things I never wanted to draw and pretending I have newfound self respect.

What's a brother gotta do??

[Midnight]

Oh, come on! Another birthday? Unbelievable...

Happy *grumble* Birthday *grumble* Spud.

[Matt Dixon]

Looking at ' today's birthday's ', I'm a year younger than Spud. That makes me feel a bit less of a creaky codger. Happy birthday, Grandad..!

[Dirty C]

That's ok then - I still have a few years to get my shit together..

[Splatt]

Here you go guys, I couldn't take a piccy of a few because they were inside and I was like...outside...and couldn't be arsed to walk.

http://gyre.is-a-geek.org/thug/Sketchling.jpg
http://gyre.is-a-geek.org/thug/Frankie_badger.jpg
http://gyre.is-a-geek.org/thug/Ben_kai.jpg
http://gyre.is-a-geek.org/thug/Trev_Molly.jpg
http://gyre.is-a-geek.org/thug/Cas_Ben.jpg

1) Sketchling
2) Frankie and Badger
3) Ben and Cartoon Fox
4) Trev and Molly
5) Cas and Ben

Haha

[Badger]

My God i look like a twat, i also need my hair cut bad!!
Surely there is a better one than that of me splatt? :(
Happy Birthday summer pudding!!!
-Badger-

[Dirty C]

Cool. So many new faces! Not much drawing going on in those pics though!

So are some of you heading out tonight? Me and the gf's anniversary tonight, so can't make it, but have fun if you are.

[Midnight]

Wow... such a scary-looking group of people I've never seen...

Badger - you've shape-changed!

[Splatt]

Lol sorry badger, I think that IS the best one, you can check these out though :P

http://gyre.is-a-geek.org/thug/Badger1.jpg
http://gyre.is-a-geek.org/thug/Badger2.jpg

[Badger]

Cheerz Splatt! >:D
dirty_c thats what happens when we meet in a pub! :\
Midnight its my human form, i got it cheap on ebay!
-Badger-

[sketchling]

Yo all!
Good to meet you all :) And thanks for puttin up with us crazies gyre :)

Great meet, though I was a bit out of it so I drew instead of talked :)

Got a GREAT link for everyone!
http://www.itchy-animation.co.uk/tutorials/light01.htm

[Midnight]

Bookmarked - I've seen it before, but my comp went a bit crazy and deleted all my saved sites. Good to have it back!

[trev]

cheers for the link sketchling!

err and now a question - on my new monitor the colours are dark and then get noticeably lighter towards the bottom for the screen - does anyone know if this is a common problem with tft's, the calibration, or does it just sound like its fooked?

[Dirty C]

To me, the latter. There's not any speakers anywhere near it, is there? I dunno if magnets affect LCDs the same way - probably not, cause they're a totally different operating principle to CRT, but take a look anyway.

Try google, maybe.

[Baaaah!]

Just found this thread today :^^:. Planting my little flag for the future :teeth:

[Frankie]

Hey guys, it was greating meeting you all. Its a pity none of you could make it out on monday, although me and ben still had fun!

Hey cartoonfox what was the name of the ink you covered your paper with, I thought that was really cool and want to give it a go.

[Dirty C]

Yo,
Who'd be up for another speed paint tonight? Maybe 9.30 - 11?
C

[cartoonfox]

hey frankie, welcome to the boards ^-^

check here (http://www.letraset.com/uk/template5.asp?catid=113) for the ink. this is the where i buy mine from, you can choose the colours you want, mine is pantone 473

have fun ^-^


yuo gonna post any of your drawings here? i didnt get to see much of your stuff.





peace :7up:

[RES]

Hi dirty_c

I was planning on doing my C.O.W tonight but if there some speed painting going down you can count me in, I need the practice I’m supper slooooow

[Dirty C]

Right, I've posted the speed painting thread over here: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=453739#post453739

[Molly]

Hey Frankie,

Was cool meeting you too! Sorry couldnt male it out Monday, hope you guys had a great time!

Will post my pics later on, ron, ron

Mx

[trev]

Hullo monsure frankie - favoured mode of transportation that you are ;) welcome to the forum =)

[MoP]

Hey Frankie ... pity I didn't make it down this time, woulda been fun.

Those Letraset inks are very cool, I've been using them with a big fat paintbrush on certain pages of my sketchbook, it's nice for making custom toned paper, and also as a base for painting/coloured pencilling over. Also works well behind black/white gel pens. Use it in a ventilated room though... actually wait, it's you... try it in a really enclosed space with no ventilation at all - it'll make you think that whatever you're drawing is f*ckin' awesome... wooo... spinny...

Dirty_C: I'm down for speedpainting! This time I'm in all day, so I won't be late (unless I forget) ... just reinstalling Windows and Photoshop after my hard drive died last week, but I should be good to go for tonight...

[Frankie]

Thanks for the link CF! I will get some pictures up soon, I need to get my sketchbooks home, they are all at work at the moment but my car is getting an MOT today and I cant carry them home on my bike :(
Do you guys scan everything in or can you get good results from a digital camera.

Hey molly, sorry you couldent male it out? is there something about you I didnt realise :)

Hey trev, anytime you want a lift just let me know!

Hey mop, it is a pity you didnt make it down! I think I will try the tecnhique about drawing in an inclosed space :)

[Molly]

Hey Fellas,

How are you all today?

Well, I have just handed my notice in to my boss and she wasnt pleased. We had a row, I asked if I could make it 3 months notice, but she refused and well, now I'm here.

So, any advice you guys can give me on getting a job?
Recruitment agencies?
Company addresses?
Contacts etc etc
Portfolio content
Characters?
Environments?
Vehicles? - any advice on all?
My strongest points are Characters, so any advice on that would be much appreciated.

I know I may not get a job within 1 month, but damn, I'll die trying. I've had enough working in the corporate industry. The have no idea of quality. And I hate the fact that the last bunch of illos I did, has a man in a fucking suit.
I know I can do more, and I am suffocating in this place.


Ta
Mollyx

[Badger]

Molly Good luck! If i think of anything else i'll tell ya!
Frankie I prefer scanning in a dark room, Though digital cameras are good for the pig pieces u gotta get your stuff flat and good lighting coz a flash f**ks the colours. Thats my experience anyway.
-Badger-

[Baaaah!]

That sucks Molly :[ . What is it that you do, or rather used to do? Obviously something involving illustration.

[Badger]

Is there any thought to another meet?
Or one further north? though i guess half the northerners work in the same building anyway (Poshspice, Matt Dixon, Summer pudding, Duddlebug).
Just a thought get more of us together.
Anyway, we should do it more often i found it really inspiring!
-Badger-

[koshime]

i am free saturday, but will probably spend it watchign sahara and painting in my house. Its a bit far north Lon, so unless you guys want to trek up here....

[Splatt]

Badger Maybe dude...do it in 3-4 weeks time, then I shall be freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :D I'm taking the fucking train if it is further up north, the london trip nearly killed me...

[gyre]

Badger Maybe dude...do it in 3-4 weeks time, then I shall be freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :D I'm taking the fucking train if it is further up north, the london trip nearly killed me...
LOL. I'm the one recovering from a nasty cold who drove the 2+ hours there, and the 2+ hours back, while you're the one who slept in the car all the way home :)

Kids, nowadays... no stamina :)

-- gyre --

[Zakuta Asura]

Er, hi. :)

New to the forum - and I am from the UK! :P

I'm from Luton, Bedfordshire, and I usually spend quality time drawing or playing games (lol). I usually visit London every weekend, as I'm always trying to find ways to get out of the house.

I'm trying to better my own skills, so I guess this seems like a good place to start.

Hope to see more of you soon. :)

[Dirty C]

welcome zakuta! Yup, this is a great place to start! Ask as many questions as you like, everyone's friendly. Just don't trust anyone from Derbyshire.

[Splatt]

hey frankie, welcome to the boards ^-^

check here (http://www.letraset.com/uk/template5.asp?catid=113) for the ink. this is the where i buy mine from, you can choose the colours you want, mine is pantone 473

have fun ^-^


yuo gonna post any of your drawings here? i didnt get to see much of your stuff.





peace :7up:

Yaaaay! I can go buy the ink now. Thank you Cartoonfox :P *hugs*

[Badger]

Hey, sorry for posting so much lately. Um, Anyone Gonna be about on Wednesday, I get dropped in London by college in the mornin then i have to find a gallery to go look at. I was wondering if any one would be around/free and a good exhibitions on atm. Carravagio still on? whistler? I'll google it!
-Badger-

[trev]

sorry badger, i cant make it - busy week ahead :/

Im having trouble with this dude (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=457640#post457640) - especially his left leg and foot - could you guys please take a look at him?

[koshime]

well -if u book him early, we can arrange an amputation by next weekend :)

[Crack_dealer_Dan]

Hey Fellas,

How are you all today?

Well, I have just handed my notice in to my boss and she wasnt pleased. We had a row, I asked if I could make it 3 months notice, but she refused and well, now I'm here.

So, any advice you guys can give me on getting a job?
Recruitment agencies?
Company addresses?
Contacts etc etc
Portfolio content
Characters?
Environments?
Vehicles? - any advice on all?
My strongest points are Characters, so any advice on that would be much appreciated.

I know I may not get a job within 1 month, but damn, I'll die trying. I've had enough working in the corporate industry. The have no idea of quality. And I hate the fact that the last bunch of illos I did, has a man in a fucking suit.
I know I can do more, and I am suffocating in this place.


Ta
Mollyx


What software can you use?

Getting work in illustration is tough. Good luck finding more. That isn't drawing dudes in fucking suits.

You tried comics?

[Summer Pudding]

I've just stepped out of my bathchair for a moment to thank y'all for my bday messages. Has anyone seen an ear trumpet and tartan blanket around here?

big luv

Pud'

[OxCreative]

Hi everyone, just thought i would introduce myself to all the UK peeps!!

I live in the south (Portsmouth) but am from the north (Newcastle - Howay!!)
I am 19 and am trying to build my online portfolio/website in the spare time i have from uni!! :teeth:

[cas]

Welcome, Jordan.

Are you studying at Portsmouth University? I graduated from there 2 years ago.

Chris

[Dirty C]

Man it's quiet in here these days.

Where is everyone?

And why aren't you bigging up my dragon hehe

[Baaaah!]

It's cool man, like the light on it esp. I might have a go at that thread myself.

[koshime]

Myself, from having no art assignments, have been dumped with loads of concept art to do, so ...jsut check in here now and then....

trying to juggle work, art..and guild wars. out in 9 days time. muah hahahaahahahahah

[Molly]

Hey ppl,

@Crack_Dealer_Dan - I can use Photoshop & Illustrator and the usual traditional art skills. I'm negotiating freelancing with my ole company to cover the basics. Ya it wil be tough, but I'll die trying..hehe. with regards to comics, I dont think I have the experience or patients for it. On the other hand, illustrating covers - book and mag covers, for Sci-Fi stuff would be wicked.

Welcome all newcomers to this thread!

Mx

[trev]

Hi guys, Im doing character design for my final major - would you guys please give me some feedback on my concepts + designs? :bashful:

[Dirty C]

Course, where are you? *edit: "they"*

[trev]

umm beside me...in my sketchbook o.o lol sorry I just didn't want to be presumtuos. Ill post em as soon as I get home. And Thanks =)

[Dirty C]

That's ok. As far as actual character design goes, by the way, I think Don Seegmiller's book has the best overview of how to think of them. Of course, I didn't read too much of it, cause I wanted to see how he uses Painter, but Kim seems to have memorised it, so maybe you'll get some help from him too :)

[trev]

ok its ive got em here (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=460783#post460783) ...partly since my scanner refuses to scan as well as other strange things happening on my comp >.<

Ill havethe others up as soon as i get my scanner sorted.

[koshime]

the method don seegmiller uses, is quite painter orientated, and makes quite good sense of painting forms based on colour hues, based on the background adn enviro colours. it is by far the best, how to paint digitally for charac I would say. Saying that, seeing him paint on a fwe QT files, and doing it oneself is still a large gap to leap....

[Baaaah!]

Which particular book are you referring to by Seegmiller?

[Splatt]

Man it's quiet in here these days.

Where is everyone?

And why aren't you bigging up my dragon hehe


I'm still here...just checking out here every once and a while...like every day. I'm just busy with school work, sketching and stuff like that.

[Badger]

Hey guys do you know how much and where i could get hold of a copy of painter, and if there is a discount for poor arse students?
@DC - Well the shit is about to hit the fan for my art foundation so i might dissapear off the radar completely. Thats probably what will happen to cartoon fox also.... Wait is it exam time for everyone?
whats the next stage of the city?
-Badger-

[sketchling]

Hey all.

Trev: Funky robot, man. :)

DC :) Funny I did come close to memorising that book... but I dont do chars. go figure. I WILL however, get back into em once I got my 3d-forms sorted. nearly there :) The book is 'character design and painting' by don seegmiller. The lil uicktimes aught me a lot, but only after you try apply what ya learn and discover ya havent and go back. :)

Oh, and I did this yesterday at work:
http://www.sketchling.com/artwork/2005/d_creature1.jpg
Its part of my wierd sky world concept thing im up to.

:yayca:
K

[koshime]

how come the pic looks realistic, teh jelly looks goo dbut the sorry excuse of a cradel is just a blurb of grey :) stooop slackin man...heheh

[Molly]

Kim, I love that jellyfish pic. The clouds are just beautiful, I can see the influence Sung Heung - whats-his-name has had on you. (sorry, cant spell that fellows name) And the design for the creature is cool too. I love the colors and the effects you have put in to show that the creature is kinda smooth and almost 'squeeshy' .... well, 'jellyfish' like...;)
...aw the sky has blown me away. Kim, any chance of a mini-tutorial for the sky? I love painting clouds when I get to -always a good solution for putting in backgrounds when the focus is the character- but I can never get the texture right for clouds; the whispy, candy floss like texture you got going on there....nice...

@ Badger - best thing to do if ya want Painter, is download a trial version(preferably painter9) and then go and find a 'patch' for it. This'll stop the 30 day trial, and you can carry on using it. Its the cheapest way I found to gain the program. Um, I think I have a copy I can get over to you??? Lemme know.

@trev - sort the links out on your character pics! I like the female pic, but the rest I cant see! the weapons that show, are nicely rendered tho....

Mx

[sketchling]

haha... yeah. kim was slackin. I intended to finish that but descided to actually go home for achange instead. Dont worry though. I intend to go back and actually design that box in mah sketchbook. :D

Molly :) Yeah, thats a bit of ol seung ho's influence... watching him paint clouds is inspirational in the extreame. Clouds are also a VERY good exercise for understanding subtle value changes. and value in general!

Couple a tips that help a lot with clouds though
1) They are surprisingly sharp edged.
2) Paint back and forthe from the positive to the negitive shapes. Whispy stuff is best painted by making a stroke and eating back into it with the colour its painted over.
3) Create a cloudy kinda brush with an opacity that varies with pressure. Make sure its capable of hard edges.
4) Get some good reference pics of clouds from somewhere like mayang.com or imageafter.com and try copy them... iv messed up a few cloud pics before I could do that one. Reference is the key. Studies are what give you the edge. Studies and understanding WHY light behaves as it does.

[koshime]

my pc just died a few mins ago. trying to frantically rerieve all old image data....meanwhile, just put in an order for a flying machine system under 1k
as an emergency...(didnt want to upgrade at least another few months..but sigh..)

Has a least 2GB DDR, ATI x850 XT, some space, some processing power....

Kim > will need to hijack you with some custom brushes or an email of some custome brushes would be handy....guess I'll be spending his free week setting up a new system

[Dirty C]

Kim, that's totally sweet.

Trev, sorry I haven't been able to help out just yet - will take a look as soon as i get a chance.

right, off to norfolk!

[koshime]

what's in norfolk? and when shall we organise a group meet?
I'm free for the next 7 days!

[Badger]

Who's gonna be going to Prague?
I'm in hopefully, date depending, but i'm pretty sure i'll make it.
-Badger-

[cartoonfox]

yeah im 99% there, i just need to get into uni and then get my student loan to pay for it ^-^

... which reminds me, i have my interveiw for westminister (illustration) this tuesday *gasp* so wish me luck ^-^






peace all :7up:

[Molly]

Hey, good luck Cai, you'll do fine in that interview ;)

Badger - Prague, I'm there already, tho, I may skip the workshop and go site-seeing, depends. The Alphonse Mucha museum opens round that time, so well worth the visit. I've been to all the w/s, so, I wonder if the Prague one would be any different. Anyway we'll see....*shrugs*
Kim, thanx for the tut, much appreciated!
Crack_Dealer_Dan - Photoshop, Illustrator and er traditional skills. I tried 3DMax, had fun, but my god its alotta pointing, draggin and clicking, not fo me...:)
DC - how about a link to your dragon?

Matt Dixon, Imery, and all you other fellas, thank you very much for your invaluble advice and support for my venture into the Freelance world.
At the moment, I am in negotiations with my current employer for all the illustration work they get in from their clients. So, all is not lost there. The corporate Ind' is not my kinda thing, but moneys money. Once I've got myself sorted, I'll go venture into book and magazine illustrations, maybe knock on the doors of a few comic companies and the like (as suggested by a few of yers here;).
Aw man, I get to work from home! so this'll give me plenty of time to concentrate on my own skills and porfolio. It'll be tough, but I am excited to soon be my own boss. Man o man, wish me luck fellas...

love yers all!

Mollyx

[Splatt]

When is this? I think you should all come down to bristol :wink:

lol!

[Midnight]

Come over to the west somewhere!

I'd like to meet you guys, so as soon as there's a meet I can make, I'll be there!

btw Molly, good luck in whatever you do!

Mid.

[Crack_dealer_Dan]

Hey ppl,

@Crack_Dealer_Dan - I can use Photoshop & Illustrator and the usual traditional art skills. I'm negotiating freelancing with my ole company to cover the basics. Ya it wil be tough, but I'll die trying..hehe. with regards to comics, I dont think I have the experience or patients for it. On the other hand, illustrating covers - book and mag covers, for Sci-Fi stuff would be wicked.

Welcome all newcomers to this thread!

Mx


You'll be fine. Just bear in mind games pays jack, the hours are lousy and there's hardly any concept artist work unless you can dual-function - like a modeller who is a concept artist. At least that's my experience. I think CAS is now a concept artist and can shed more clear light on this subject.

Anyway. When be the next meet up?

D

[Dirty C]

Gotta admit, the weather turning crap again has somewhat dampened my enthusiasm for everything. Guess we should push on through that and just organise something..

[koshime]

movies may be he way forward perhaps?

[Dirty C]

Maybe. Hey, anyone see Constantine? I thought it was pretty good, considering. They didn't overdo the effects unnecessarily. Though of course Keanu was wooden and didn't help..

[cas]

I think CAS is now a concept artist and can shed more clear light on this subject.

Nope, don't do concept art just yet. :)

Still modelling and texturing but it's characters, not environments, these days.

C

[OxCreative]

Hi all my fellow brits,

I have an annoying Wacom question. I want to get a Intuos I, II or III preferably A4, but i am a broke student :bashful:

where can i get one? i have looked on Ebay and all of the Intuos I A4's go for about £150+

I also compared the UK price with the USA price and don't understand why there's such a big difference.

UK PRICE
Intuos 2 - A4 serial, Dabs.co.uk £417.99

USA - PRICE
Wacom website (USA ONLY) Intuos2 A4 tablet with Serial connector (PC) - $469.95 (converts to £245.91)

[Badger]

I believe i can answer this one with the most wonderous of all sites
HERE (http://www.educationdeals.co.uk/)
examples of cheap wacom's (http://www.transaction-one.com/gs/html/sgs/f1/en/products.jsp?sfid=47367&vendorcode=WAC&pubid=3269)
Cinema sounds good!
-Badger-

[trev]

J2XA - ide go for the intuos 3 since last time I checked they were retailing for the same price as the intuos 2!

- Ide like to go see constantine, preferably on staurday or sunday nite.

[Matt Dixon]

What ho, chaps. There's a little tutorial-thingy ( more a collection of progress images really ) for one of my doodles over in the COW section, if anyone's interested - http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=43114

You lot should really get your idle fingers out and join in the fun over at the Creature of the Week. That Seattle lot are well represented most rounds.

J2XA - Ebay is the cheapest source of Wacom products I've found. Are you certain you want an A4 - is that what you're using at the moment? I used a 12"x12" Wacom Ultrapad for years, then downsized to an A4 Intuos, and now I'm using an A5. I really only bought it so I could fit a tablet in my laptop bag, but it's by far the best size in my opinion - it frees up lots of desk space over the A4 version and, unless you're using a HUGE monitor, means your pen movement on the pad will be closer in scale to your cursor movement on screen. You'll save a fair bit of dosh, too.

[IllustriousHarry]

Matt wow, that tutorial is next on my list to read, its insanly great that people put the time and effort in to write things like tutorials and such, much appreiciated.

Kim Ahhh! jellyfish my great fear, now invade the sky, theres no escape! I will just have to imagine up something bigger to fight them off. Seriously though beautiful painting, I love the change in strong blues and liquid/fluid look. The floaty jellyfish like cloudbehind is great as well,


talking of things to read I didn't get round to that reading that extensive light link you sent.
Reading this -"Studies and understanding WHY light behaves as it does." reminded me of it
Is this one of those things thats really good to read before making another drawing and getting under your belt? A drawing belt would be cool, wonder what it would look like.


DirtyC The devil in constantine was cool, I feel guilty for not wanting something more visual and TERRIFYING though

Molly Sorry i've stolen your bold naming :bashful: I wish you the all the best with your careering! You don't need any luck thats for sure

Does anyone know if there are any good threads on a topic like -
"When do you count a drawing a complete?"
or something similar? like other parts of books or articles that might help me out.
I suppose I know its something you answer yourself really, but i'd be interested to here other peoples views on it "hint hint"...
Trying to photorealistically shade everything is feeling wasted, but I keep slipping into it.
Maybe its time to reach for a paintbrush/waacom tablet.

[OxCreative]

Wow thanks everyone for the help.......i got some pretty cold feedback in the general lounge!!

I am using an A4 Aiptek at the moment but it is really bad (the pressure sensitivity is really dodgy and the ratio seems to change so all of a sudden whilst i am drawing the cursor will shoot of across the screen). It takes batteries in the pen so isn't that reliable.
but when it is working the ratio seems to be quite good, but if you say the A5 is good i'll definitely look into it!!

Thanks!

If you ever need feedback/comments/crits please send me a private message or contact me through J2XA.com (there's a feedback form to put a query in)

[Aly Fell]

I thought people might like to know (and I'm sure he won't mind me saying) that Duddlebug from the UK CA, became a daddy yesterday at 10.23 with a little girl weighing 6lb.13oz (phew!), which might explain why he's been a little quiet on the CA front recently (as I have, although not for the same reason!) :bounce: :bounce: Aaaah!

[sketchling]

Congrats Duddlebug! :)

IHarry : Yeah... that light-how-it-works link is really good. It is aimed at people who do 3d though, but it is VERY applicable really.

After all... we are all trying to become 3d renderers with our pencils. First gotta learn to model in our heads and get form and perspective right, then to understand different types of surfaces and reflections etc and light them to look realistic. Its the same whether ya use maya or a pencil. Though a pencil has fewer context menu's.

Of course realism isnt always the aim, but understanding light means that whatever style you use you can give it an 'outside midday feel or an indoors gloomy feel. Gives ya control. :)

[OxCreative]

Congratulations Duddlebug!!! ;)

[koshime]

I kinda like WACOM A4 for home /office use and the WACOM A5 for the sleeping room/travel/laptop. Best of both worlds!

US prices are so cheap becasue the UK pounds is very dear/overly strong. Import the stuff i say!!!

[trev]

congratulations duddlebug :rendered:

[Dirty C]

Congrats Duddlebug!

And yeah, I guess I should get involved in the COW stuff. Still got this damn pesky Factory thing going on in the background for my mate. Oh, and I'm doing lotsa life drawing these days. We had a pregnant woman as a model last night - there was an audible ripple of excitement in the room when she came out. Wicked, believe me. I really must get some photos of my life drawing stuff online - It's all A1, so kiiinda hard to scan.

As for Lucifer not being visual enough - I'm not actually a fan of overdoing efefcts in a lot of ways, so I'm glad he was what he was. I think the way they used effects in that film was great - like just showing glimpses of the demons in the street.

As for my dragon, it's here (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=458478&postcount=92)

And for the tablet chat - yeah, I'm considering giong travelling in a year or two, and if I wanna take my laptop, that'll mean getting something which will fit in my backpack. But I work so damn FAST with my Two Fist Technique :) Hell, I've even started discovering that thre's combinations of mouse and pen clicks which I didn't design for which do stuff!! I'll be sad to have to give it up :(

[sketchling]

yeah... imagine how fast ya could get when the whole keyboard is at the command of one hand.... :) why have 3 buttons when ya can have...lots!! Every menu option is but a one-inch finger punch away.... :O

I challenge you to a drool....
:nohope:
K

[Dirty C]

yeah... imagine how fast ya could get when the whole keyboard is at the command of one hand.... :) why have 3 buttons when ya can have...lots!! Every menu option is but a one-inch finger punch away.... :O


Oh yeah hehe

But that only works if I have a desk to work on. If I'm working on a coffee table, i can't be reaching down to my keyboard all the time. That's why the setup.

[sketchling]

Yeah... thats why I dont get much done at home... erk. A good setup really helps productivity. My desk is a big wooden board I shove on my lap and balance on the computer-table. :( have sent water, wacom and ipod flying on many occasions :( I just cant live without a keybord...

K

[Splatt]

So whats gonna happen? Where are we meeting up? :D

[Midnight]

Congrats, Duddlebug!

[Crane]

Awwww Congrats Duddlebug!
I want a little girl someday, my baby wants boys tho cause girls cost to much lol.

CONGRATS again! :yayca:

[trev]

Finally got all my character concepts up (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=460783#post460783) apoligies for the delay.

[Badger]

So we gonna meet this weekend? being a bank holiday and all, Sunday? 8)
Congrats Duddlebug!!
-Badger-

[Raziel]

I've not really shown my face for a while but i just thought i'd say congrats to the daddyduddlebug :) my mates just had a little girl too called her phoebe they've asked me to be a god parent, bless, also i thought i'd let you know if you guys are looking for vector logos (work nice in adobe illustrator) check this site out

www.brandsoftheworld.com

:dead: >:D

[cartoonfox]

hey congrats duddlebug ^-^


i just thought i'd let you all know, i got my letter this morning and i got into westminster!!! ^-^ so yeah, i'll be moving to london soonish (like late july, early august)
cant wait ^-^



peace all :7up:

[trev]

congrats :)

[Raziel]

:blahblah: yeah well done dude! :blahblah:

:dead: >:D

[Badger]

Woo and i got into UWE Bristol! *does a happy dance*
-Badger-

[Raziel]

well done badger have one one me!

[Aly Fell]

Woo and i got into UWE Bristol! *does a happy dance*
-Badger-

Excellent Badge! Good for you... check you mail next week! The art-fairy will deliver... ;)

[MoP]

My congratulations to Duddlebug, Cartoonfox and Badger!

So, Duddlebug's got accepted to university, and Cartoonfox and Badger had a kid together, right? /m\

[Splatt]

oooh, well done badge! If you want, you can hang around with me on your spare days off, I live in bristol :D lol

[acuna_read]

Congrats on those getting into Uni and on the baby.

I'd be up for a meeting in the near future, I havent done much if any drawing for the past few months but am now getting back into it. If anyone knows of any life-drawing classes in SE London/Kent or even Essex (as I know have two crappy little wheels to get about on) then give us a shout, Molly? :bashful:

And if anyone has tips on where to visit in Paris for good art (bar the obvious) then send me a PM or post here as im off there in July.

Cheers, Robin.

[cartoonfox]

heh, thanks all, and congrats to you badger, bristol's a cool city, go check out the aardman studio, and theres this huge lush park, cant remember the name though ^-^


anyway, now i need to look for a place to live ^-^
i dont want to live in halls of residence, i need a quiet place to stay, with out 8 other students bothering me, getting drunk every night and coming back at 4am singing... ^-^
my best bet would be to get a shared house/flat, with like just 1/2 other people, but who knows i may get lucky and find a shitty little flat somewhere... *wishes*
so yeah, if anyone living in london knows anywhere or anyone looking for a room mate, let me know.
at the moment im willing to pay no more than about 110/115 a week. and im looking to move in around late july/early august





peace :7up:

[Splatt]

Anyone got an idea when the next meetup is? I loved the last one.

[Ben powis]

Hi there,
New brit on the boards here :)
I'm studying Illustration in Herefordshire (West Midlands) at degree level.
Nice to meet you all :)

~ Ben

[Splatt]

Welcome matey! hope you have a good time here.

[cartoonfox]

hey patrick, yeah im moving to london around late july, im going to westminister, harrow campus (right next to northwick park tube),
yeah would be cool to share a place, better than a complete stranger ^-^

good luck with your interview, let me know how it turns out.
im sure splitting the cost would meen better chance of an finding a small affordable 2 bedroom flat somewhere... maybe ^-^

you got AIM?




peace :7up:

[cas]

If anyone knows of any life-drawing classes in SE London/Kent or even Essex (as I know have two crappy little wheels to get about on) then give us a shout, Molly? :bashful:


Acuna, you may find some life drawing centres near you, here:

http://www.modelreg.com/affil.htm

Chris

[Matt Dixon]

Welcome, Ben. Grats to Cartoonfox and Badger!

[Midnight]

Hey, cas, I'm heading to the one in Shrewsbury this coming Tuesday. Should be good!

Congrats Cartoonfox and Badger!

[Ben powis]

im going to westminister, harrow campus

Hi there CartoonFox,
What are you going to be studying in London?
Are you doing a Degree/MA?

~ Ben

[Hybridstar]

New to the boards and a fellow englander. Salutations, will get round to posting some stuff soon but had a little question, finally decided to defect to a mac. Anybody know the cheapest place to get one, ive tried Computer Warehouse and they seem fairly reasonable but will price match. Budget of 3500, want dual 2.7 with 2.5 gig of ram and a nvidia geforce fx 6800 ultra/raddy 9800 pro and a 23 inch apple cinema display. Quotes have come in about 3500 so far.
Congrats all for your exciting developments, uni is cool but remember to keep drawing and learning from these boards. Nice to be here.

Cheers y'all.

[Badger]

I see the Uk thread is back to it's old speed!
Congrats cartoon fox!
Hello Ben and Patrick and hybridstar!
I guess i'll be in the thick of the student massive, on the other hand NO ONE will out hi-fi me, i can guarrentee that.
Poshspice art fairy? Aly i thought u said you were trying to project more manly-ness into your posts? he he, i await the delivery giggling like a school girl.
Foundation crew, howz the FMP going? i got 5 weeks left. i might post some work in my sketchbook next week.
ANYWAY, I better get out the house on this sunny day, may go see my laura or something.
-Badger-

[cartoonfox]

Hi there CartoonFox,
What are you going to be studying in London?
Are you doing a Degree/MA?

~ Ben

hey ben, i'm doing BA (hons) illustration... so that a degree, right? ^-^

why'd you ask?





peace :7up:

[Ben powis]

hey ben, i'm doing BA (hons) illustration... so that a degree, right? ^-^

why'd you ask?

I'm just being nosey really ;)
Always interested in London courses, i'm in my first year of a BA at the moment, and looking to head to London when I complete it.

I'm sure you'll have the time of your life man :)

[blog]

Anyone no of a paper warehouse, mill, manafacturer. Who might sell cartridge paper?

[Raziel]

heh, thanks all, and congrats to you badger, bristol's a cool city, go check out the aardman studio, and theres this huge lush park, cant remember the name though ^-^


anyway, now i need to look for a place to live ^-^
i dont want to live in halls of residence, i need a quiet place to stay, with out 8 other students bothering me, getting drunk every night and coming back at 4am singing... ^-^
my best bet would be to get a shared house/flat, with like just 1/2 other people, but who knows i may get lucky and find a shitty little flat somewhere... *wishes*
so yeah, if anyone living in london knows anywhere or anyone looking for a room mate, let me know.
at the moment im willing to pay no more than about 110/115 a week. and im looking to move in around late july/early august





peace :7up:



hey i would pay that much to live with student and want to get drunk and have parties :) lol

[cartoonfox]

I'm just being nosey really ;)
Always interested in London courses, i'm in my first year of a BA at the moment, and looking to head to London when I complete it.

I'm sure you'll have the time of your life man :)


heh ^-^

so when do you move down to london?



peace :7up:

[Raziel]

cartoon fox! i'm reading some of your old comics having never seen the link to your site before now and i swear the ipod revolution and the doom one made me piss my self. love em.

[Aly Fell]

Poshspice art fairy? Aly i thought u said you were trying to project more manly-ness into your posts? he he, i await the delivery giggling like a school girl.
-Badger-
I employ the art-fairy to deliver. She dresses up in a cute li'l outfit, just like a postwoman, and gets a job with the royal mail, and pops round to your house and sticks an envelope through your door, usually first thing in the morning.... er.... As for manly-ness! You're the one giggling like a schoolgirl! :D

[Molly]

Congrats Duddlebug, Cartoonfox & Badger!

Cai, Northwick Park area of Harrow is ok, quiet, and suburban. Theres a huge PArk near by, and Harrow-On-The-Hill is near by too, has some nice views over North London. Harrow in general, is ok. I used to go to school & college up there. The Centre bit with the shops and that is ok. You see I use the word 'OK' a lot. Its not an amazing place, and I doubt the housing is gonna be shitty. A house share is most likely for you, see also if your UNI can point you in the right direction for that. Trains go directly to Baker Street in like 15-20mins.

CAS - I started my Painting and life drawing class. I got Michael Ajerman for Painting and a guy called Sam, (sculptur-ist) for life drawing. Ok so far..:)

PEOPLE - I leave my company next Friday (13th May) and would love any of yers who are in the area to join me for a tipple, to celebrate going forth into the unknown as a freelancer. Time and pub I'll post later...

Mx

[cas]

I started my Painting and life drawing class. I got Michael Ajerman for Painting and a guy called Sam, (sculptur-ist) for life drawing. Ok so far..:)

Apologies, Molly; I've been meaning to ask as I hadn't forgotten. I hope they're already benefitting your digital work. My classes also started last week and they're the best so far.

Now that you're going freelance why not sign up for all-day Monday painting, as well? If not, I'll make copies of the handouts and talk you through them at the next meet, if you like?

I leave my company next Friday (13th May) and would love any of yers who are in the area to join me for a tipple...

I'll pen it into my diary. :)

Chris

[cartoonfox]

Cai, Northwick Park area of Harrow is ok, quiet, and suburban. Theres a huge PArk near by, and Harrow-On-The-Hill is near by too, has some nice views over North London. Harrow in general, is ok. I used to go to school & college up there. The Centre bit with the shops and that is ok. You see I use the word 'OK' a lot. Its not an amazing place, and I doubt the housing is gonna be shitty. A house share is most likely for you, see also if your UNI can point you in the right direction for that. Trains go directly to Baker Street in like 15-20mins.

hey molly, havent seen you online in a while ^-^

well i dont plan to live in harrow, i can just grab the train from wherever to northwick park. i might be able to share a 2 bedroom flat/apartment with troymcoy (now know as patrickb) if the timing is right. there are a few nice places (two in kensington, is that a nice place to live?)
otherwise i'd have to find someone else, though i dont really want to stay with some complete stranger (atleast i know patrickb on the forums ^-^)

anyway, im sure something will turn up. cant wait till i can just come along to mini meet ups and be part of the london crew ^-^




peace :7up:

[Badger]

I employ the art-fairy to deliver. She dresses up in a cute li'l outfit, just like a postwoman, and gets a job with the royal mail, and pops round to your house and sticks an envelope through your door, usually first thing in the morning.... er.... As for manly-ness! You're the one giggling like a schoolgirl! :D
Fair point! i shall go attempt to be more manly by eating pickled onions and watching topgun.
Molly Sounds cool, i shall also use my pen, but alas the lack of diary, i shall write on the back of my hand.
-Badger-

[Dirty C]

Molly - unfortunately I'm in Paris that day, but if I'm back early enough, I'll find ya.

My Internet access is still buggered, btw, hence the no posting lately. I'll hopefully have that fixed by BT on Thursday so I can annoy you all with my inanities again.

[Summer Pudding]

nicely done Duddlebug, Badger, and Cartoonfox.

Pud'

[Midnight]

Just out of interest, what's everybody's favourite mediums for life drawing? I took pencils yesterday, which may not have been the smartest move for 5-15 minute poses... It probably also didn't help that I was sitting next to an art teacher whose pastel compositions were amazing.

Still, I got a cup of Early Grey during the break!

[Molly]

Hay all,

Cai - Kensington is a nice area, posh and pricey - tho, thats if ya wanna buy a house. Flat sharing round there would be cool for you as the museums are close by, and well, no rowdy chavs to bother you...

CAS - I know you aint forgotten mate, I've been busy myself. I'd love to Paint all day Monday, but it depends on money....tho, theres grants and loans...I'll check it out...

DC - dont worry mate, turn up when ya can...;)
Midnight - I use pencil, i prefer it. I have tried charcoal, and i know its an artists favorite, but.....umm.....i still prefer pencil. Maybe I'm using the wrong kinda charcoal...*shrugs*

Mx

[Dirty C]

Midnight - I use pencil, i prefer it. I have tried charcoal, and i know its an artists favorite, but.....umm.....i still prefer pencil. Maybe I'm using the wrong kinda charcoal...*shrugs*


Charcoal takes much patience, as the darkness of it seems unfriendly at first. But if you use it on its side and treat it like paint - building up forms rather than tracing outlines - it's the best intermediary point between drawing and painting, and it's hella rewarding when you do something you're happy with.

I'm hungry.

[Midnight]

Hmm - I just had a chat with a friend of mine (who used to use pencils when he went to life drawing), and he suggested going with softer pencils. Worth a shot.

Don't know why, but I love pencils too much to give them up that easily!

Thanks, though (and it's good to know that pencils are viable - I think I'm the only person there who uses them!).

[trev]

I like using charcoal for life drawing but I also use pencils - ive got a couple of big fat Pilot 'Croquis' pencils that are quite nice to use. I normally use an hb for laying things out and then a 2b or 3b once im happy with the way things look.

Just wondering - has anyone tried covering an entire page with charcoal then 'drawing' with a rubber?

[koshime]

how about not using the rubber at all? As far as i know, charcoal is smudgy and unforgiving like the pen due to the high graphite/coal content.
but as dirty C said, it is jsut as rewarding watching loose forms form and definately one of my favourites in landscape sketching/life drawing

[Hybridstar]

I use regular and mechanical pencils if im working on more detailed or smaller sketchbook studies. If you want to be more gestural and expressive charcoal is the first choice most people make, use either vine or willow and choose a paper with a good tooth if you want to work up the drawing. Winsor and Newton make a good medium surface paper thats great but if you want to be really fancy go for a fabriano roma, that comes in various off white colors. I would personally recommend using a medium that you can taper to a good point. Charcoal/pastel pencils, conte, pure graphite pencils(no wood casing) and compressed charcoal are all great sharpened with a good knife and refined with sand paper. The reason for the long taper is that it gives you a great range of markmaking options, remember its all about flowing gestural rythmic lines and you can use the broadside to quickly establish tonal areas.Vine charcoal and charoal pencils come in various grades. One very important thing to bear in mind with compressed charcoal, conte and certain makes of charcoal pencils is that they are very unforgiving, once youve made a mark its very difficult to erase. Oh and one last option is sanguine, nice warm brown that works really well on off white paper, make sure its chalk based as opposed to oil. Bit of an essay but i hope it helps.
:D

[Badger]

I'm more of a fan of compressed charcoal, it's my observational baby. Foot (http://www.gilly.org.uk/badgertracks/hugefoot.jpg) example.
@Trev, i've done it, uses up LOADS of charcoal though. i'll try finding them....
@midnight,what about a graphite stick as a middle man? they are quite cool to work in. Pencils, I usually use an 8b and 4b for laying in tones.

Oh and charcoal takes a bit of getting used too, it's a completely different media too pencil. I used to hate it.
Oil pastel anyone? now there is a beauty!
back to work...
@Dirty_c - still hungry?
-Badger-

[Raziel]

where is every1 meeting this time?

[Molly]

[Quote:
Originally Posted by Molly
Midnight - I use pencil, i prefer it. I have tried charcoal, and i know its an artists favorite, but.....umm.....i still prefer pencil. Maybe I'm using the wrong kinda charcoal...*shrugs*

Originally posted by dirty_c
Charcoal takes much patience, as the darkness of it seems unfriendly at first. But if you use it on its side and treat it like paint - building up forms rather than tracing outlines - it's the best intermediary point between drawing and painting, and it's hella rewarding when you do something you're happy with.
QUOTE]

I hear you. And I understand charcoal very much and the patience it requires. But in the end, it is not my prefered use of medium for life drawing. Thats it. Nothing else.
I think being comfortable with a medium and gaining the same result as or close to charcoal is just as rewarding. I choose not to use charcoal, or want to master it (and I dont see why I have to cos everyone else is) but i havent completely ignored it.


Mx

[Hybridstar]

It comes down to what youre trying to portray or depict in a drawing. We all use different mediums and techniques to describe different things. I wouldnt say charcoal takes any more patience to master than pencil though, but maybe thats just me. What do you folks say to getting regular Uk life drawing thread up? What do y'all reckon?

[acuna_read]

Pencil requires alot more skill as you will notice more even smaller imperfections. Charcoal allows you to be a bit lazier and messier and still produce a better picture, its better for those starting out at least.

[Midnight]

I've been messing about with a few photo refs and 4B, 5B and 6B pencils. So far, I think the 4B looks a lot better than previous attempts (F\HB\2B! What the hell was I thinking?), and I can use a 5B\6B for anything really dark.

It's interesting to have my whole normal way of working (methodical, precise) rendered utterly useless in this case. Not necessarily pleasant, but interesting...

I'll give charcoal a shot, though.

[Molly]

.......What do you folks say to getting regular Uk life drawing thread up? What do y'all reckon?

I think this is a good idea. The 'Watts' Kids have one, why not us? It'll be nice to see the variety of mediums used; styles and approaches of those in this thread. As much as I like the work done by the Watts kids, alot of it looks the same - my opinion...
BTW = just touching upon a post by CAS a few pages back - my tutor holds classes on Saturdays, from 1pm - 8pm, for £15. Most likely I'll attend, its a drop in class like the ones DC does. Those of you interested, click here for the website (http://www.artacademy.org.uk/) . Call them up and inquire about it....

CAS do you still attend?

Mx

[IllustriousHarry]

Interesting discussion, guess I havn't really thought this much about how much medium can change things.

Oil pastels are beautiful to doodle and be abstract with, never dared to use them with life drawing though. I will now..

What about INK!? With a brush or bamboo pen, or just slopped over the page. If your prepared to go wild, careless and get a bit messy, it can be soo much fun.Great for fine lines as well, But it can create strife with some people, maybe when you have an exact idea of what you want to create. A great starter to loosen up and have fun.

Ooh and soft pastels, good ones. Cheap ones are simply hell. Good ones, you don't even feel like your working at all, its like your on a beach, rubbing your fingers through the sand. You can get all your colours on to the page, and then work with the best tool, your hands, and then marvel as they magically blend together.

oh deer...gotta do life drawing...right now.:pump:

Have any of you selected mediums and styles that are you? that you have developed and praticed and such? Do you say to yourself before drawing "I'm going to draw in this style"??
I'm craving a bit of focus and discipline. Our figure drawing teacher is obbsessed with wild experimentation and expression. If i've learnt anything its , drawing is full of a bizillion options.

Experimenting with different mediums has helped me a load. Once you've played around a bit with everything, you can really understand exactly whats good and unique about the medium your using, and focus on it.

Love the foot :rendered:

[cas]

My tutor holds classes on Saturdays, from 1pm - 8pm, for £15. Most likely I'll attend, its a drop in class like the ones DC does. Those of you interested, click here for the website (http://www.artacademy.org.uk/) .

CAS do you still attend?

Hi All

Molly - I've started painting in my garage - where I've set up a little studio - most Saturdays. Actually I didn't know about the Saturday life-drawing at the Academy. I may drop by sometime, though.

Chris

[Midnight]

Hey, Ben powis - I completely missed your intro post - good to see someone else around in the Midlands!

On an unrelated note, I picked up some charcoal pencils today. Pretty cool stuff. Shame I forgot the fixative :S

[Hybridstar]

So how would we go about setting up a life thread for uk folks? It would need to have enough people attenting regular classes to work i guess, and if you guys arent! dont complain about how bad your figure work is. :wink:

[cartoonfox]

hey all, looks like patrickb is gonna be moving down to london in a month or so, which is way too early for me. im looking to move down around august.
so looks like im back to square one...

if anyone knows anyone looking for a roomie in london, please let me know





peace :7up:

[IllustriousHarry]

Shame I forgot the fixative :S

Non perfumed ultra cheapo hairspray works better than the expensive arty stuff I found. Or perfumed if you like :p

[Midnight]

Ah, well I belted back into town and picked up some Windsor & Newton fixative. I'll remember the cheap hair-spray thing, though :wink:

Now all I have to do is hope that the other members of the life-drawing class don't keel over from the fumes.

btw, does anyone have a particular time of day when they just can't paint for toffee? I've tried doing some stuff in the early mornings- sketching's fine, but everything else is disgustingly sub-standard (a standard which isn't overly high to begin with!). Seems late evening\night is when I work best.

Mid.

[Ben powis]

Non perfumed ultra cheapo hairspray works better than the expensive arty stuff I found.

Very right, and even thou it isn’t necessarily cheaper, some of that spray gel stuff works really well.

btw, does anyone have a particular time of day when they just can't paint for toffee?

I find for things like life drawing I work better in the mornings, because it takes a lot of concentration. Usually if I stay up late scribbling I think I’m creating a masterpiece, then when I wake up in the morning, its like 'gah!?' ;)

P.S. - Hi there Midnight, where is this life drawing class of yours? You've all got me wanting to attend one now :)

~ Ben

[Molly]

@ Cai - sorry to here that dude, if I hear of anyone wishing to find a roomie, I'll let ya know...
@Cas - yup - Sam, the 3D sculpture student takes life drawing classes, and says he'd like to make it every Saturday, So those in London have a think eh?
@Harry - hehe ink is a fantastic medium for quick strokes/gestures etc, it really teaches you to be sparing with your line work, i havent used it ina awhile maybe i'll take along to my next life drawing class; oil pastels - i like em but dont use often, they also have a habit of disintegrating quite quickly on me, maybe it depends on how soft they are? - anyway, a very nice medium for life drawing, you can be blocky and focus on just the shapes within the figure and you dont have to concentrate on teeny weeny details.

@Hybridstar - As for the life drawing thread, why not we start one in a week or 2? So people can scan their work in so far? I know a few of you here have been attending regular classes; the thread could be there to help eachother with life studies, techniques and how to incorporate it into your own conceptual ideas. We can show off our own techniques and best ways of using charcoal, ink, pencil, oil etc. There are tons of different ways to approach a drawing. Understanding all techniques may help you to define your own...

Mx

[Midnight]

Ben powis - it's in Shrewsbury, at the Belmont Arts Centre, 7pm-9pm on Tuesdays. £5 a session, un-tutored, drop-in, provide all your own materials.

cas posted a link further up this page which has the contact number.

They'll be running until the end of May. June's uncertain, depending on whether or not people want it to go on then. There'll definitely be a break during July\August. I'm certainly going to be there all through May, and hopefully 2-3 times a month after.

It'd be good to meet up with someone from the CA UK boards - London's just too damn far... :nohope:

[Ben powis]

Ben powis - it's in Shrewsbury, at the Belmont Arts Centre, 7pm-9pm on Tuesdays. £5 a session, un-tutored, drop-in, provide all your own materials.

Sounds good man but its too far for me to travel on a regular basis.

It'd be good to meet up with someone from the CA UK boards - London's just too damn far...

Get on over here then ;) Im sure we can hook up somewhere, im in a town a few miles away from, Hereford which is where im doing my degree. You’re only an hour away by train, which is nothing.

Your call, give me a shout or whatever :)

~ Ben

[Midnight]

Sure - when's a good time?

I'll have my tacky red plastic clipboard (the best Ludlow has to offer in the way of drawing boards...) and a couple of trusty pencils primed!

[Ben powis]

Sure - when's a good time?

I'll have my tacky red plastic clipboard (the best Ludlow has to offer in the way of drawing boards...) and a couple of trusty pencils primed!

Your not actually in Ludlow are ya? If so you’re even closer.

Are you at college/uni whatever during the day? Have any commitments? I can pretty much make time whenever.

Ill send you a PM with my emails and stuff and we'll sort something out.

Nice one :)

~ Ben

[Noonday Underground]

'Ello, i'm new and I'd thought I post my opener here.

I'm an Illustrator/Painter from the People's Republic of George Galloway (Bethnal Green East-London)

Regards,
Jeff

[Midnight]

Ah, I need some help again.

Picture this: you're about to go into life drawing, where you'll have between 5 and 15 mins per pose, and you've got a full set of sketching pencils + some charcoal pencils. Your paper, sadly, isn't that great (it's actually 80 gsm inkjet printer paper, because it's cheap in bulk!).

What do you use? 4B and softer? Charcoal pencils (very expressive, also very cumbersome)?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Mid.

[Hybridstar]

You really dont need to use a pencil as soft as a 4b, i use 2b as my softest and tend to work more often than not in hb. I'd try both your charcoal pencils and regular pencils, bring them to a long point so you can use a range of marks. One pencil i have found very good is a "Black Beauty", its graphite and glides really nicely over a page. What size paper are you working on? With quick poses you are really trying to hit the gesture and rhythm so go with what enables you to capture that as expressively as possible.

[Midnight]

Heh - I've just been making a few more quick sketches, and I actually like the feel of a 6B for this. Problem is, everything's stylised (it has to be in the timeframe, I suppose), and I want rich, deep, smooth-ish shadows with precise edges (in 5 min? Yeah, right... still, I'll try).

The paper's A4, btw, and I'm using Derwent pencils.

I'll just keep sketching throughout the day, with 2\4\6 B pencils, and see what comes of it.

I'll keep an eye open for the BB pencils, though.

Mid.

[Hybridstar]

Any chance you can post what youve been doing with those really soft pencils Midnight? It would be easier to give pointers then.

[Molly]

'Ello, i'm new and I'd thought I post my opener here.

I'm an Illustrator/Painter from the People's Republic of George Galloway (Bethnal Green East-London)

Regards,
Jeff

Welcome to the boards Jeffery
Checked your site out, pretty cool...:)

Mx

[Dirty C]

Personally, to me life drawing is about getting the maximum amount of information down in as short a time frame as possible. That's a lot easier with softer pencils than hard ones. But to be honest, I always use charcoal, by breaking of a piece about two inches long and using it on its side until its unusable. I rarely use it to create lines.

[Hybridstar]

Certainly longer poses allow a different approach but when it comes down to a five minute pose the main action of the pose is contained in the gesture and defining line of movement. Hit these along with a good sense of gravity and balance and you should have captured the pose. Dirty C, are you able to stick up a few exapmles of your life drawing too?

[Dirty C]

I'll put some up as soon as my dsl is sorted. I'm hoping it'll be soon - damn thing's been out for a few weeks now.

And if anyone's interested, there's an exhibition opening tonight on Euston Rd opposite Euston station - Il'l pop along at about 7.30 for a little bit. It's the woman who runs the life drawing courses at Candid Arts that Imery and I go to sometimes. Her site's here - fine stuff: www.annesite.co.uk.

[Midnight]

@Hybridstar - sadly not, since I've no working scanner at the moment.

Still, I've nicely wasted this morning rapidly sketching similar poses (from my head) with HB, 2B, 4B, 6B and 8B. HB's too light, while 8B's too rich - of the others, I'm really not sure which I prefer.

Doesn't really leave much left other than constant practice with varying softnesses. As for tomorrow evening, I'll just wait and see what the shadows on the model are like before selecting a pencil (and hopefully get some other points of view from some of the other people there!).

[Pupil]

A lot has been happening since I last visited: births, new members and university offers (including mine). My BT connection won't let me on the site for some reason and after a four-hour phone call they just said "well that’s just bad luck" (this is posted from the library). This is the first time I've been on since COW 11 and I've been having withdrawal symptoms. Just though I'd show my face again.

As far as the mediums topic I have to use something that you can easily vary the tone and line width so charcoal or a graphite stick works for me.
I find that with pencils I use a few 4Bs that start out at different sharpness so I just swap them very quickly. If I want a more finished piece then maybe add in a bit of HB at the end to blend from the white to the 4B shading (since HB gets deeper into the tooth).

I’ve been looking at some Yoji Shinkawa stuff lately and his brushpen figures look amazing. Does anyone else use brushpens for small/mid scale life drawing? I've tried but I tend to overwork them unless I work to a strict time limit.

[Molly]

Pupil - yup - I have a brush pen i got in SF. Its pretty cool, granted you got the right kinda paper. I've used it on a Bristol pad and it was the best one. Sketch book paper tends to dry it up somewhat. Also, I bought ages ago a big sumi-type brush, big fat nib made of some smooth soft animals hair, wood handle. But when wet with ink or water color paint it makes a nice small, sharp point. I so forgot i had it...Thanx for reminding me:) I think I'll use it at my next life drawing class..

Anyhoo - I have my final day at work on Friday the 13th, and plan to celebrate my departure properly. I'll be drinking at the Horniman Pub in Hayes Galleria, London Bridge. click here for map (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=533500&Y=180000&width=500&height=300&gride=&gridn=&srec=0&coordsys=gb&db=&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&zm=0&scale=10000&left.x=3&left.y=99) (near Tooley Street)

Any of you guys in town on Friday, do please pop along. I'll be reserving the upstairs area, so it'll be easy for yers to find me.

Mollyx

[trev]

Molly - I hope you have a great time on friday, unfortunatly I cant make it - less than two weeks till hand in of final major. :$

If any of you could please take a look at my work (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=42944&highlight=wingnut) it would be much apreciated.

[Badger]

Pupil The Libary?? i could never get a computer over there, i just bitched the bathroom, if it wasn't full of slackers playing flash games ALL day.
Noonday Underground Welcome! gonna post some stuff soon!? i'd love to see what u do.
And on the question of fixative! I use hair spray, cheap stuff, usually perfumed coz i'm not picky, also then the smell of fixative drownsout the smell of spray paint.
-Badger-

[Pupil]

I was finally able to get on this site from my own PC today... still don't know what was up before though... I hope it stays okay.

Badger :D Yeah, I know what you mean about the Flash games kids, its like a little sub-culture. I can never get on a PC in the sixth-form library, I just go to the main one... The Y10 and Y11s are easier to chuck off. I was in the Wycombe library though, trying to get some decent books before the end of term.
Also, I'm glad to hear about you getting a place. For now I guess you are working towards the end of your foundation...

[Dirty C]

Sorry Molly, doesn't look like I'll be back from Paris till late, so i won't be able to make it tomorrow. But we will defo have to have a drink later on to celebrate your emancipation :)

Hey, there any other mac heads out there who were stupid enough to install Tiger and watch it trash their system? It seems to be acting a little more stable now, but it was wacky as hell at first. My mate's brand new imac G5 got trashed by it and he's having to have the motherboard replaced!!

[Summer Pudding]

'Ello, i'm new and I'd thought I post my opener here.

I'm an Illustrator/Painter from the People's Republic of George Galloway (Bethnal Green East-London)

Regards,
Jeff

The Krays were from Bethnal Green. We don't want no trouble aight?

Welcome to the squat.

Pud'

[Noonday Underground]

Welcome to the boards Jeffery
Checked your site out, pretty cool...:)

Mx


Noonday Underground Welcome! gonna post some stuff soon!? i'd love to see what u do.

Molly / Badger,

Thanks kindly for the welcome! Like your sketches Molly, reminds me of Clive Barker's ink and brush stuff. V' Good!

Some samples of my commercial work can be found in a mini portfolio in the link below. They're not very good quality pics, but a proper website is currently under construction. :)

http://www.contactacreative.com/JeffreyHarrison/

Regards,
Jeff

[Noonday Underground]

The Krays were from Bethnal Green. We don't want no trouble aight?

Welcome to the squat.

Pud'

Thanks for the welcome Summer Pudding (great name).

You'll have nay trouble from me my friend - i'm as soft as shite! :bashful:

Regards,
Jeff

[Molly]

Righteeoo - I know a few of you fellas arent coming out drinking tonight, but dot worry, I wont slit my wrist over it hehe

For the rest of you living and breathing in London, I'll be celebrating my new ventures at the Horniman Pub, London Bridge, by Hays Galleria - google it yourselfs, or whatever its easy to find!

All are welcome,

Mollyx

[IllustriousHarry]

Have fun :vodka1: ing molly.

Hi Noonday Underground, great to have some more talent to add to the bucket in here. I like your style of art, quite refreshing and pleasing to look at.

I have a question for anyone,

Do any of you use references for figures in your paintings? And if so where from? other art? or do you prefer to to construct your own.

Maybe I should ask this question in its own thread, but this thread is nice and homely. :teeth:

[cas]

Hi All

Do any of you use references for figures in your paintings? And if so where from? Other art? Or do you prefer to to construct your own?

I'm not a good authority on this subject as my work from imagination amounts to only a handful of drawings. However I've started using my gesture drawings from life class to base fictional characters on.

To clothe the character and other reference I'll simply look on the internet for useful images. This is where a spider diagram of ideas written down can be useful so that you can better develop your image search and look in places you wouldn't have initially thought of. Plus, I work on thin/tracing paper so that I can more easily develop the character in drafts.

This is actually the way that Degas worked. He’d draw onto or transfer his life drawings on to tracing paper. Because he had a large stock of such drawings he could play around with compositions similar in the way we can using Photoshop layers; flipping the drawings horizontally and adding or removing figures until he arrived at something he liked. If he didn't like the position of a leg on a model, or he wanted to re-use the pose in the same composition but change for variety, he’d simply take another sheet of tracing paper and make a copy with a slight alteration.

One other trick he used was to draw the model in the same pose but from different angles. Then using the above technique he’d produce paintings which had a beautiful harmony just like this one here (http://www.oxfam.org.uk/coolplanet/ontheline/explore/journey/france/images/degas.jpg).

You asked about using reference in art and here I am rambling on about Degas! :)
Hope you find it useful, though.

[Badger]

I very rarely use reference, i have a big problem with that, at A level i did nice paintings for ages, and now reference doesn't really fit into the thought process. Which is really bad! It also means my knowledge of anatomy is so appalling, voles could do a more accurate drawing while driving a rover metro :[

The only reference i use if i do find i'm stuck is me, the wonders of digital cameras.

Thankyou for the art history cas!
Hope you had a good time Molly
-Badger-

[IllustriousHarry]

Thanks for the help. Its great to here about the famous artists before us and the inventive methods they used. If i'd come up with it myself i'd feel I was cheating, but at the end of the day as long as artful emotional decisions are being made, thats whats important.
I think it was Cezanne who said
"Art which does not begin in emotion is not art"

So i'll go and grab some tracing paper
And Ahh yes and digital camera's, its sometimes easy to forget those nifty devices

[cas]

So I'll go and grab some tracing paper.

Excellent. Don't forget to do the image research, though. Look through as many images as you feel is necessary and pick things which catch your attention. For example; the way fabric folds over a persons hips or the shape of a trouser leg (especially around the ankle).

Have fun!
Chris

[Midnight]

I should be picking up a scanner in the next couple of weeks, so I can perhaps show you all some of my pencil stuff, and you can help me get to the point where it's recognisable as the intended subject!

Have a good time, Mol?

Mid.

[koshime]

we're probably due for another group meet soon at some point....any preference of a weeekend?

[oishiiniku]

With regards to reference, what I'm finding really useful at the moment is to do a page full of gestures from reference, and then the next day (or whenever) try to recall some of the poses and draw them from memory as best I can. It really helps to pinpoint where you're making mistakes and also to expand the range of poses you can draw without reference. I guess it works with anything really...

Ta, Nick.

[Midnight]

I use ref for figures extensively for rough sketches, etc, but not for fully rendered works.

Currently I'm wrestling with drapery (damn ancient-style super-creasy drapes!), so yes, I'm using shedloads of ref (a 'shedload' being the official designated measurement of artists reference material). I'm working to the point where I can make it look natural without ref.

Mid.

[cartoonfox]

we're probably due for another group meet soon at some point....any preference of a weeekend?


yeah, i wonna have another meet up ^-^

i finish in 3 weeks (3rd may) so anytime after that in completley free, or i could do a weekend sometime





peace :7up:

[blog]

When, what, how, what do we do? This is probably the next best thing to the workshop. I need some artist firends. I really should have by now man, cause I haven't! Come on molly! I guess you put all these things together right? I need some details!!!

[Dirty C]

When, what, how, what do we do? This is probably the next best thing to the workshop. I need some artist firends. I really should have by now man, cause I haven't! Come on molly! I guess you put all these things together right? I need some details!!!

Heh - Molly sometimes delegates to her puppet-like cronies for the odd jobs, actually :)

Having said that, I'm not free for the next few weekends. Off to Rome this weekend though!! So stoked, I'll try and get to Chez Cistene.

[Molly]

Oh....*sigh* bugger my ole boots...

*thinks* and all i want is that foreign, russian type doctor from ER, with the dark hair, the real tall one......mmmmmmm


*poof, fantasy becomes reality* Damn...shit, did I say that out aloud?

Anyway - AGAIN, I ask - what-do-you-guys-wanna-do-at-the-next-meet? Besides have a few beers, talk art and shit?
Some people draw, some dont; some put themselves in a corner, others dont; some get bored, and tired easily, some dont...
now, before I arrange another meet, I want you guys to think, what you'd actually like to do? we could organise a Saturday life drawing session? at 15pound each for 7 hrs? you dont have to stay all the hours, but it can be arranged? we can discuss technique, approach etc? mediums to use, what your comfortable with, what your not? Rendering, shape, form, WHATEVER - I can get a studio space and model - all I need, is to ask at the art academy i attend...no problems...
Its all well and good asking for a meet - but I want you guys to benefit from it too. The last life drawng session we did, back in November, went down a treat. We had a fantastic model, space etc I can get that at the art academy, as long as I know WHO WILL WANT TO ATTEND.

Suggestions are more than welcome, as long as its possible and realistic...not in some gallaxy far, far away....

My head hurts...


Polly Pocket xxx

[Hybridstar]

I'd love to get out to your neck of the woods sometime folks, see what you all get up to. Probably get it to coincide with one of my art material trips to cornelissens. Any more thoughts on that life drawing thread? I run several classes each week along with 2 other artists and i'm a great ambassador for the benefits that life drawing offers illustrators and concept artists. :}

[Dirty C]

Do you now? Where are you, Hybridstar? I'll take a look at yoru site when i get the chance..

And yeah, I'm up for all that, Molly. Probably bring out the paints again. Let's just sort out a potential date and see how people feel about it, yeah? Sunday would be good for me at the moment (saturday is taken) but I can work around it.

[Hybridstar]

Im in Wiltshire Dirty C, we'll have a site up for the classes and workshops very soon, along with our partner group: The Sarum Studio. Our personal site should be up sometime soon also, it's just finding the time amidst freelance stuff.

[Badger]

Happy Birthday Young Paddy 1!!

DC Good to have you back!

Yeah Molly i'd be cool with this as long as we get a good turn out but i'm not really free for another 4 weeks. Still is stressful FMP territory, though i could integrate the figure drawing.... Ok i'm down with this then.
-Badger-

[Dirty C]

Thanks Badger! Though my dsl still ain't working :(


And hybrid - you gotta site?

[Midnight]

Happy birthday Young Paddy 1!

Anyone know anything about Caran D'Ache water soluble pencils? I've just discovered I've got a box of them, but I've no idea what to do. Since I'm not feeling too great atm, I thought I'd mess about a bit with them, but any pointers'd be groovy!

Mid

edit: hmm, can it be true? Does typing 'Caran D'Ache' force all UK CA'ers to suddenly flee this thread? Peculiar...

[duddlebug]

Hey all!!

I just wanted to say a belated big thanks for the kind words a few weeks ago after the birth of my little girl, Daisy...

I didn't even know this part of the forum existed until Posh told me peeps had been sending me 'congrats' and 'best wishes'...

So thanks again!

And i'll be joining in a bit now i know the UK thread is here...

[koshime]

It woudl be good to have a digital workshop as well! now who can we find as masters of digital art to ponsor/teach...

[OxCreative]

Hi everyone, hope you're all well! :teeth:

Just a quick question, I was wondering how well freelance artists do in the uk? I am looking into a few things and jut wondered what the pay was like, what the flow of work is like etc. If you don't want to discuss your pay on the forum please send me a PM and i will keep it confidential.

I remeber Molly saying she quit her job and went freelance, and whilst i only work part-time (i am at uni aswell) i am thinking of going freelance as long as it can pay as well as my part-time job. I live in the south (portsmouth).

As i am at uni, relocating isn't an option.

I am also looking into where to do my placement year in 2006/2007 and if anyone knows any good art/gaming/movie related places please give me a shout, (i can relocate for this) Thanks :teeth:

[Hybridstar]

I find it good, although you have to work hard. There are alot of freelance jobs available out there, you just have to go looking and obviously have the goods to back it up. Getting yourself a good agent is one option, there are some great agencies in the uk, folio, arena etc. It depends what avenue you want to pursue, editorial, book, advertising etc. The artists and writers yearbook used to have a list of agencies and card companies.
I've been doing fine art/digital illustration freelance for a number of years now. It's only recently that ive got into concept work, and hope to secure some regular work with 2000ad coz ive always loved the comic as a kid. Good luck, you could earn a good living but you have to be professional and competative.

[Dirty C]

Hey, talking to some of those agencies may be a good idea - is a lot of the work required like "I need this today" or is most illustration work in the freelance field more like "I need this next week/month"?

And hey, for those of you who haven't heard, it's a bad day for midgets everywhere.. http://www.newturfers.com/mwf/attach/38/355838/BBCNEWSWorldLionMutilates42MidgetsinCambodianRing-Fight.htm

DC, In paris again (still no dsl :'()

[Summer Pudding]

Thought you might want to know, there's a Lead Artist and Lead Animator position at Lionhead (where I use my crayons).

Drop me a line if any of you are interested.

Pud'

[Summer Pudding]

Hey Summer Pudding, any character artist/modeler jobs available at the moment?

Well, these are the only two positions I know about, but I'll find out about others.

Pud'

[Molly]

J2XA - I suppose freelance artists do very well in the UK. As ppl have said, find agencies, representatives etc - but dont expect getting onto their books is easy. Folio, Debut Art, Arena - they are very high end agencies.They will charge YOU for submitting work to them. Do some research into it.....
Check out work on agency websites, and see the different styles they have and if you can provide that sort of thing. Also, dont expect to get work straight away. Its very competitive, and well, illustration success depends on your style, what you can provide. You may get asked to do small silly cartoons, to vector art, to high end art. The subject matter may not be something you like, so you must be prepared for that. Clients will be difficult, and not explain themselves well; also you may have to do some things for free to get yourself noticed.

What field do you want to illustrate in? Books? Commercial magazines? Corporate Mags? Web, Bars, Clubs, Resturants etc...
I have several styles which work well with certain clients. Some like shitty cartoons, some like detailed, stiff, vector art, some dont care...

Fortunately, my ex-employers still send me illustrations to do. Its all corporate shit, but hey, its art, and pays my way. Its not regular mind you, so, there is alot of selling YOU will have to do for yourself. Get a website together, and some completed artwork, you think you could sell to 'clients'.
Make up leaflets, business cards, small portfolios to send out (some places ask for hard copies) and sell, sell, sell. I will PM you MY prices...

www.lemonade.com - this agency is based in Richmond. They demand hard copies before they consider taking you on.
www.viewcreatives.com - not a particulary place I'd rely on, BUT registration is £25, you can upload onto the site then and there - but dont expect anything staright away.
www.illustrationweb.com - they arent recruiting, or able to represent ppl atm, but have a look at their site - aaah - send them some stuff, they may be able to help you...
Go onto company websites, find the name of the marketing dept manager, creative director, send them a link to your site, introduce yourself > Go to these cmpany sites, and find out who their competitors are...
Ask your friends, local newspapers, online magazines, etc etc...
Hey - get some advice from your UNI/college, they should be able to provide you with some contacts..if not, they are crap

My fingers hurt...I best go, got an illu of a bag with expensive goods in it to draw....*sigh*

Mollyx
would like a gold star for this essay...

[nick]

hey molly,

i'd appreciate it if you could send some of that pricing info my way too...i'm just starting out here and to be honest...i ain't got a clue... :nohope:

ta muchly.

[OxCreative]

Molly, here's the gold star for your essay of an answer lol!
http://j2xa.com/Star.gif
If you ever need crits/comments of any help with anything please let me know!

Thanks for the help!

I am looking to do any type of art really. I finish my uni exams next week so will be spending the summer starting a portfolio from scratch, taking my skills up a level and putting something worthwhile on my appauling excuse of a website (i only have a temp page that i done in about ten mins :[ )

I have a job lined up designing a website, might try and see if they need a new logo too and perhaps some artwork.

I am interested in anything, concept design, illustration, cartoon work. I just see it as a way to earn money whilst doing something i love to do.

I am new to freelance work so i am really hoping to be up, running and getting freelance work by september/october.

Again thanks For the help!

[cas]

Hi All

Does anyone fancy doing some drawing in Shoreditch (Brick Lane) tomorrow evening? A few of us went there last week and found some good places to sit and draw - outdoors and in.

Myself and Jimmy (who hasn't posted yet) are going to be there from 6.30 till around 8.30pm.

Chris

[Matt Dixon]

J2XA - As far as illustration goes, my advice would be to find something you like to do, and that you think there will be a market for, and build a portfolio around that. By all means show your versatility if you're confident with different styles and subject matter, but make that secondary to showing off a clear, consistent personal style of some kind; there's no reason why you can't have several portfolios, each showcasing a distinct illustrative style. I think you'll find that agents and clients alike will respond better to illustrators who have a definite 'look' than those who do a bit of everything. You'll see this demonstrated when you browse the portfolios on agency websites.

Folio, Debut Art, Arena - they are very high end agencies.They will charge YOU for submitting work to them.That's interesting, Molly. Is that based on personal experience? I've had meetings with Arena and, to the best of my knowledge, there's no charge to the artist at any point, just a ( very competetive ) commission.

[OxCreative]

Matt thanks for the advice! I still have a long way to go....... i have no portfolio what so ever. :S

Is it possible to make an entire portfolio as well as a website in 3-4months? i have to work for about half of the time too :S

If anyone else has any advice or information on pricing for freelance please help......I will keep your information confidential if you PM it to me, Thank you!

:wink:

[Molly]

BTW - silly question, Nick, did you go to the SF workshop? I swear I saw your stuff before...or maybe you posted here? Its cool tho, i really like your characters....:)
- hehe Hey Matt. Mainly with Debut Art. At the time when I sent em an enquiry, which was a about a year and a bit ago (which I havent done since, due to being scared off and a lil inexperienced) submitting onto there catalogues was hefty.... Fortunately, my ex-employers have been doing business with them for a while,(which I wasnt aware of until recently) so I was given a direct contact to talk to. I will let folks here know an info I recieve.
I got some info on Arena (when I look back now) from a fairly unreliable source, so I apologise fellas for any incorrect info I have given. :nohope:

I will PM you fellas my costs, but please, please please, dont take them literally.
They are based on MY abilites, style, and experience. Once I get better, the pricing could go up, or whatever....

CAS - I wont be able to make this thursday sorry luv. BTW do you know who Ivan is at the Academy? I met him, and he gave me nice feedback on my life studies...

Moo x

[acuna_read]

Would come as getting back into drawing now, moving towards art oddly enough :\ but just for personal stuff.

Sadly though I am now well and truly skint, literally zip after quitting the job from HELL! will re-address the problem soon, until then holy art pads batman! :dead:

[Dirty C]

Thought you might want to know, there's a Lead Artist and Lead Animator position at Lionhead (where I use my crayons).

Drop me a line if any of you are interested.

Pud'

Hmm.. somehow methinks I'd have a shot at somethign in the less 'lead' role.. scary.

[trev]

Just letting you guys know that my grad show is on the 10th to the 13th of June and your all more than welcome to come along =)

Its a newmedia and graphics show so there will be everything from illustrations to animation and some instalation peices...and did I mention the bar? ;)

Being held at F-block T1, Truman Galleries, Brick Lane

open from 11am - 7pm

[cas]

Hi All

Trev - I'd like to come along to the show, although I'll probably make it there for the 13th. When are you planning to go yourself?

Molly - Do you know what time does the life-drawing session start at the Art Academy on Saturday? Also, do they provide paper?

Thanks
Chris

[Molly]

Cas - it start at 1pm - 8pm, ya they do provide paper. If your fo definate, lemme know asap, I'll send him a text to let him know, (numbers attending and all)
Trev, I'd be up for that!

Mx

[cas]

Molly - Yep, I'm definitely going. I didn't realise it was such a long session! Jimmy is also coming along.

Thanks
Chris

[trev]

cas - i should be there all three days, if not then ill let you guys know.

molly - look forward to seeing ya there!

[Dirty C]

I'll definitely come along if I can, Trev. You follow through on the interface style of design we were talking about?

[trev]

Dirty C - I didnt have time im afraid, my final images were abitious enough as they were, so I even had to rush parts of those...learnt TONS though, and Ive noticed im a bit faster now as well :)

I will be finnishing them properly in time for the show and getting all the concepts coloured and bound together in a workbook so Ill put it in there. Anyway - thanks for the help man ! ;)

[Badger]

Just gotta say guys, the freelance conversation on the last page was great, it really helped! Hope there are more contributions on that.
-Badger-

[MarkDN]

Hey! I’m signing in for the first time after a days life drawing at the Art Academy in London where I met Molly and Cas, who invited me to check out this place. There’s some terrific looking stuff around the place and I’m looking forward to exploring further, however this is me right now; somewhat knackered. Exploration must be postponed until the morning.

My website is at http://www.marknicoll.com , or at least a site will be there when I make one (it currently forwards to a livejournal art dump).

Cheers for the invite, peeps. :rendered:

Mark

[Ben powis]

Hi Mark,
Nice stuff :) Can't wait to see more of your work!

~ Ben

[blog]

Heh, its my birthday on the 10th of June Trev :D

[cas]

Welcome, Mark.

Will you be starting a sketchbook thread of your own? Mine is at the end of one of the links below.

I also recommend visiting The Society of Figurative Arts (http://www.tsofa.com/forum/index.php) forum. You'll find some good life-drawing guidelines posted by Michael Mentler.

Chris

[trev]

blog - hope you have a good one ;) got anything specil planned?

[MarkDN]

Hey Cas - yeah, I'll have to do that some time. I only have an A4 scanner and no digicam, as yet, so I wont really be able to show my life drawings but I draw on public transport all the time and scribble in meh little black sketchpad of doom regularly enough.

As with last night, further exploration must be postponed until the morning (now I’m drunk and knackered). :dead: I'll thoroughly peruse your threads then (I saw one earlier and liked your paintings).

I'll be life drawing at the AA* tomorrow** evening.

*[Eidt] this sounds wrong. Suffice to say, I wont be drawing with a carburettor.

**[Edit 2] this evening. Monday. Ach, drunk, bed.

[Hybridstar]

Trev- Good luck with the show guy, hope it all goes well.

Any of you guys use a mac, ive just made the transition from pc to Dual 2.7 g5 with 3 gig of ram. I like tiger os x but it takes a bit of getting used to, any advice on books to read or what not? Im amazed at how fast this sucker is though, apllications sart up with practically no load time, and the brushes in painter are so fast, very little slowdown in large files at a high res. Wicked, now time to make the damn thing earn its keep. ;)

[Badger]

Who's taking a computer to uni?
On a less inclusive note, what brushes do people use? and which setting do you prefer your pen pressure in PS?
Good luck Trev!
Photoshop is going rappidly down hill, back to traditional i think, colours are much easier.
-Badger-

[trev]

Hybrid - not sure that you would need to read many of the books since the help files are pretty good. Is there anything your trying to do which is giving you grief?

Most of the keyboard shortcuts are the same except instead of using ctrl just substitute the apple key. Holding ctrl while clicking with the mouse is the equivilent of a right click on a pc, apple+i brings up the propterties of a file and apple+f brings up the sytem search. Dunno if you knew all that already so apologies if you do :bashful:

Badger - Ide definetly take a comp to uni since youll find that at deadlines the studios will probably get overbooked or something elese will go wrong at the last minute the night before when the studios are closed!

[Raziel]

hey mark i like your stuff would like to see some more tho.

[Eriboss]

Its nice to see that there is such a positive hive of talent amid our humble island :)
hello everyotherunitedkingdinion :)

[bradley]

hey Trev good luck with your show, hope you post some pics of it. will u be back in N.I for the bangor end of year show

[Dirty C]

Its nice to see that there is such a positive hive of talent amid our humble island :)
hello everyotherunitedkingdinion :)

Heyhey! Welcome.

It's funny, I dunno if it's cause people are just busy (it is for me) or what, but the personnel in this section is starting to shift over. I really wish I had more time to dedicate to all you guys - the life drawing/painting love-in went really well, and i'd love to do it again. But i am literally booked solid for months now, and have so much going on that i can't even show you :( (unless you get me on msn hehe).

Ah well, hangovers always bring sad reminiscing..

Promise I'll try and nominate a date and do the painting thingy again in a few months. I know we can do it at other places, and tons of us do. But it was great doing it with all you peeps.

[trev]

brad - thanks dude! umm what date is the show in Bangor? Shoudl be home for a month after I graduate.

[Summer Pudding]

I'm free this Sunday evening. Any Londoners out there fancy heading Up West for a get lashed/drawing sesh/unveil my new hairdo party?

Pud'

[Dirty C]

I'm free this Sunday evening. Any Londoners out there fancy heading Up West for a get lashed/drawing sesh/unveil my new hairdo party?

Pud'

Hmm... maybe...

Well, to start with, I think you should post a picture of your head without hair so we can have a "guess spud's do" competition, photoshop stylee.

[Summer Pudding]

haha...nice one. Do you worst. I don't have a photo or camera to hand, and no time to edit this hideously malformed self portrait, but here it is anyway.

:nohope:

Pud'

http://www.summerpudding.com/index_files/selfportrait.jpg

[Badger]

Summer pudding i may well give that ago later...
Splatt Happy birthday
Any thoughts of a uk td this summer? or keep it annual?
-Badger-

[Dirty C]

a TD? Hm. I dunno - life tends to get ultra busy in Summer. But maybeeee..

I'd prolly wanna take a swing at Molly next time, unless she goes and gets all crazy-good-fulltime-artist..

[Dirty C]

I'm free this Sunday evening. Any Londoners out there fancy heading Up West for a get lashed/drawing sesh/unveil my new hairdo party?[IMG]


And it looks like i may actually be good for this Sunday. Anyone else keen?

[Summer Pudding]

nice one Christian

Here's me digits

07709936614

I'm totally out of the loop with what's shakin' in London these days, so I'll leave the choice of venue to you.

Pud'

[Dirty C]

Right, so who else is up for tomorrow evening/afternoon? you're all a wee bit quiet - is this cause molly's not texting you all and rounding you up?

and check the sig :)

[Badger]

I'd love too but i got a week left of my final major project so i'm pretty much fooked!
DC It's oh so quiet.. it's oh so still, we're all... I dunno where everyone has gone... maybe eurocom are in crunch... or maybe people are going outside... a lot.
Pudding, i just saw your enviroment post :O You sir rock.
I best get back to not spamming this thread.
-Badger-