United Kingdom

[Aly Fell]

We were talking about the possibility of a Norf/Sarf UK Thunderdome last year... well, it would appear the States is feeling feisty at the moment!

Just in case anyone is up for it...

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=37078

[sketchling]

Hehe... im up for that, though wih some warning... I need to do something for expose 3 too if I can... try get in on the action.

Alex - I like the idea and I think the compositions good, but I would play with the colour a bit... try take the colours you have used and vary the hue a little bit...and the saturation... saturate the areas the light is hitting and leave or desaturate the areas in cshadow maybe. If you look at the image as just black and white... its gorgeous. You have the value side of it really well implemented.

Also with the sky... the blue you use has no variation from top to bottom... and is very green... maybe a gradient and a shift to a more realistic purple-blue would help a lot... the sea is also the same colour. Basically I think its very little you need to do... but that little will improve a good image to be a gorgeous one.

look forward to seeing what ya do with it :) Good luck in the competition!
K

P.S. Love your architecture... you are going to have to gimme some pointers next time we meet... :)

[Badger]

Oooh Sweet, except my lilly ass would be kicked back to its badger set.
Norrf vs. sauf would be good one day.
Just proper trekked it round London. Knackered. But the RCA seem to have some of their MA graphics, illustration, film and fashion shows on, if anyone wanted to know...
Otherwise I think I may retire to doodling and watching desperate housewives. (I swear I mention it every post, maybe I should put it in my sig) :zzz:
MEET UP SOON GUYS... please?
Laterz
-Badger-

[sketchling]

Latest pic...

Hi all. Iv been massivly inspired recently... Have one of the best painters iv ever seen sittin next to me at work now (just came off starwars...) :^^;: :) So im soakin up the knowledge... :) heres a quickie I did this eve. (got a few new tricks to show ya guys too come the next meet.)
55 mins PS8
http://www.sketchling.com/artwork/w-common.jpg

[Dirty C]

Shit Kim, that's awesome!! Dead lifelike (in Johnny Vegas voice). Who's sitting next to you?

As to meetups, we'll sort something out when our dear departed gets her arse on the plane. I want to do a big one again in maybe late Feb, and get a few more people down that we met in SF.

[Alex Kaiser]

Thank's everyone for the crits, Illustrious Harry, thanks for pointing all those things out, I've tried fixing as much as I could like the horizon line, I know what you mean with the perspective, It's Not quite sharp enough maybe towards the horizon line. and I should have used a perspective for the coast. (I used 4 vanishing ponts in the picture for clouds mainly, and nearest tower.)
I was really trying to impliment the colour Thanks for the advice Matt and sketchling, and thanks for the paintover Matt I see what you mean with the varying of the colour, and bringing in a bit more life. I spent an hour shifting hues, and bring levels down/up, colour changing, but unfortunately I couldn't afford much more time than that to do it. And Gary Tonges work rocks. (writing my dissertation at the moment, 9 days left......erk) erk, I hope I didn't leave it to pink now. I've always been quite monochromatic, and this is a bit of a shift for me away from that, which is probably the reason for only the 4 main colours An the reason the reflection of the comet is not in, is because it would be further down than the cliff, and you wouldn't see it .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/Tower-Sketchprogress19.jpg

Sketchling - kick ass painting looks very watercolour-like.

Woohooo going to try make it to the next meet.

[Molly]

Kim, that pic is so cool...
Alex - nice environment. I really like the clouds in the bg.

Hey Fellas, back on English soil finally, I miss SF. Need to go paint now...

So, when shall we have another meet?
Suggestions, where, when etc etc

Mollyx

[cartoonfox]

hey all, i going to an open day at kingston university (yes, im now planning to stay in the uk and study in london) this coming wednesday, its about 25 minutes from waterloo station. im there from 1:30pm to about 4pm, so, anyone willing to meet up for a few hours after? dunno where, i can just jump on the tube and go to anywhere.

my return ticket will be opem so i can stay till whenever (as long as i dont miss the 10 o clock (again, huh kim ^-^)




peace :7up:

[cas]

Hi All

Will keep an eye out for the next meet'. For the time being, you may be interested in attending the next IGDA event this coming Wednesday. Everyone's welcome and it's free. More info below and at the end of the link.

Perhaps see some of you there?

Chris

***

http://www.igda.org/london/

Sony Technology Group will be making a presentation of the new PSP hardware at the first IGDA London Chapter meeting of 2005 on next Wednesday 26th January.

With the difficulties of an ever-increasingly competitive market, the evening will be focused on the topic of "Staying in the Game". Naturally this will be a great opportunity to meet fellow developers from around London in a central location, invitation open to IGDA members and non-members alike. Please invite your friends and colleagues, look forward to seeing you there!

IGDA London Chapter event: "Staying in the Game"
Date and time: 26th January 2005, start 7pm - closing
Venue: O'Neill's (upstairs room), 73-77 Euston Road (directly opposite the British Library)
Tubes: King's Cross or Euston

Map:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=530079&y=182769&z=0&ar=Y

[Schlo-mo]

I could be up for that cai, depending on if theres a bunch of us going or not.

[Dirty C]

Hey. Should be keen to hook up. Not sure about the game developers atm.

Um, should we say the starbucks again? Seemed to work pretty well last time..

[Dirty C]

Oh, now, hey. The City project. I've realised that December was a terrible time to get the thing going, especially with the workshop at the time it was.

We have a few options:
1.Try and finish the current era off real quick and move on to the next one to get some blood into it again.
2.Just move on to the next era straight away.
3.Can the whole thing.

My feeling is that we give it a week or so and see how people are feeling about it - hopefully after meeting up at during the week, etc. Maybe by then people will have some enthusiasm for something work-like again, or just know that it ain't gonna happen.

Do people have thoughts about it now?

[Molly]

Cas, the IDGA sounds cool. Is it during the day? If so, cant make it. Gotta work. Does the London Chapter have regular meets too???

Cai - well up for it. I'd love to catch up with ya all. Starbucks in Leicester Sq is fine with me.

As far as the City project goes, we should keep at it. Finish off the era we were in before Xmas, and move on to the next asap! Lets not can it. We had so many fantastic ideas. And the work done already was cool too:)
I think we should elaborate on them more.

So Weds - what time? anytime just as long as you get there???

Mollyx

BTW: HAPPY BIRTHDAY Black_neon_Bullets!!!! /m\ :cheerleader:

[cartoonfox]

yep the starbucks is fine with me. i'll probably get there around 4:30/5pm


see you all on wednesday, molly, give me a ring around 4pm to see where i am






peace :7up:

[cas]

Molly - Yeah, the IGDA event starts at 7pm so I'll be going straight from work. They were pretty bad at organising events last year but things seem to have improved for 2005, with more frequent get-togethers.

Might see you there...?

Chris

[trev]

hey guys what time will you be in starbucks untill? Im not sure I can make it into London till about 7 - 7:30.

[Badger]

8)
hey guys, i shall attempt to make it there if thats cool. Any one know what they'll be wearing? or any recent photos of peeps? Coz that'd clear my confusion...
Or shall i look for the people with sketchbooks? :yayca:
Anyone gonna PM the other Uk'ers or are they lurking here?
-Badger-

[IllustriousHarry]

:O Wow, what luck! I have an interview for Reading Unversity tommorow.
I figure while I'm in the South might as well spread myself about and make the most of it.

I might not be able to get from Reading in time for the meet, but I'd definetly love to go the IGDA thing. Anyone planning to go from the Starbucks meetup? or will it be more a spur of the moment thing. Oh and is Strand the station next to Leiciester Square?

As for the city project. Don't stop now!, any chance to be creative is going to be helpful. I know i've looked at, thought about, and drawn things I never would have before. In terms of design stages as well. I've got some more scribblings, which i've been holding back until I had something a little less scribbly. I'll try and post more and i'd like to push ahead with it now.

Cas could you describe yourself? i'm 17, will have bags under my eyes, might be wearing a polo neck and big blue hungarian sailers coat. Heh i've probably scared you off now :P

[cartoonfox]

well the meet will start at about 4:30, but it can go till whenever, so theres no 'late' really ^-^


good luck with your interview




peace :7up:

[Crane]

Woo. I should post more instead of aiting for ages.

Josh: Ain't ya read the manky thread?!?!?

Molly, Thanks!

This a meet going on? If so i can't make it, but i dunno wat it is, i forgot wat i read. meh.
And ya, we need to do this city era quick.
Don't have much to put. Sorry.

[Dirty C]

At a guess, I'd say you might be by yourself for a bit there, Cai :) I'm not sure about the game thing - what is the focus likely to be? How to program for the platform? Might be a little dry for us art types. Cas, do you have any more info on this?

Anyway, I won't be there till about 6.30, 7. I'll be in my work clothes, so look for the twat with a beard wearing a suit :)

As for the City, well, people are saying nice things about it, and hey I even talked to the Concept Art teacher from Ringling about it at the workshop, and she thought it was pretty cool, so I guess we'll resurrect it. I'd like to do a bit of an ideas session at starbucks if people are keen, just to get people back into it. And sketches are what i always wanted to see more of on there. And collaboration - so feel free to pick up someone else's idea and play with it. I realise I've done this a bit more than everyone else, but I'd really love people to feel free to do it more - it might be easy to get offended if someone changes your stuff too much, but the more used we get to the idea, the more you'll expand your thinking.

Anyway, I'm sermonising again. See you tomorrow :)

[cas]

Hi All

All I know about the topic for tomorrow's IGDA event can be found here:

http://www.igda.org/london/next/

Apart from the discussions, it's also a good opportunity to get to know some developers in and around London if you're looking to get into the games industry. Because the venue is the second floor of O'Neills, the evening is already marked more for networking although I'm sure you'll hear some interesting talks. However, I'll keep posting details of events when they come up, if you can't make it tomorrow.

IllustriousHarry - I'll keep an eye out for you and your sailors jacket. I wear glasses and will be sporting a big grey snowboarding jacket, which will probably be hanging off the back of my chair. :)

Chris

[cartoonfox]

chris, no worries, i'll have my DS to keep me company till someone arrives ^-^
just someone make sure you phone me if you decided to meet somewhere else though ^-^


can someone tell me which station to get off again? for the starbucks. i forgot



cas, hmm, would it be usefull for someone like me (who wont be in the industry for atleast 3/4 more years (if that))?

i might come along if some others do. molly, chris, etc, what d'you think?





peace :7up:

[Schlo-mo]

leicester square station I think, but theres a bunch of other stations you could walk from.

[cas]

cartoonfox - I think it's worth attending any gathering/workshop/conference you can, because you're likely to learn things which will make you very enthusiastic about the industry. This definitely benefits your work if you know exactly what career you're aiming for. Plus, it's also a great place to make contacts.

However, the venue is a pub so I don't know if there are going to be the usual age restrictions for entry.

[koshime]

dang, iw as plannign to come today, btu i realsied i havent fnished my tax returns, which are due end of this week, sinc emy otehr half has todl me in no certain terms, get my act together, i will probably have to skip todays' meet :( :[

[sketchling]

Yeah.. Fox. id say all contacts are good contacts. I would be coming too... but wont be able to make it. I WILL be able to make tonight though, even if only for a bit (meeting housemates for australia day...thats the plan anyways!).


see ya all laters then.
:) K

[Molly]

[QUOTE=cartoonfox]chris, no worries, i'll have my DS to keep me company till someone arrives ^-^
just someone make sure you phone me if you decided to meet somewhere else though ^-^
can someone tell me which station to get off again? for the starbucks. i forgot
cas, hmm, would it be usefull for someone like me (who wont be in the industry for atleast 3/4 more years (if that)?
i might come along if some others do. molly, chris, etc, what d'you think?

- Well, I'm thinking of going to the IDGA meet, you know crash it, see whats going on. Talk to people, blah blah
@ Cas - you got a mobile number??? Are you coming tonight to the 'Starbucks' meet, if so, maybe we could go from there???
Cartoon - whats your mobile again? I cant access my phone right now, but I can recieve calls, let me know, I aint trawling through the whole thread to retrieve it!

Mollyx - see you guys tonight!
(07932907779)

[Crane]

Hey peoples
Just letting ya know changed my name to above^ since i didn't like my last one. to long and kinda poo.

I got davi to change it, he is a boy right? cause i think he thinks i'm a girl cause of my gfs pic for my avatar hehe.
Have fun at the places and starbucks.

[cas]

Hi Molly

I'll be going straight to event for around 7pm, so will see you there.

My number is 07801 658 370 if anyone needs to get in touch, for directions or whatever else.

See you later
Chris

[Dirty C]

Yeah, I asked Davi to do something once. Nada. Maybe I should change my avatar as well. To be honest, I kinda liked Black Neon Bullet. Sorry, but I actually thought that was one of the coolest names on the board :)

And yeah, the ITDG or whatever thing sounds ok, actually. Definitely might be useful network-wise. Shall we just vote to go there?

Cai's (Kai's - can never remember if it's a C or a K) number is 078 6602 1823, M. BTW, people have started calling you Mollyx, which is kinda funny :)

[Crane]

haha. well it was to long for me, i change things alot woo. like ya wouldn't believe, and thanks. i guess it was kinda kool.
Sorry i lost one the koolest names on the board lol
I'll come up with something else just as good.
And i changed to SoulChild to relate to it, inside thing hehe. anyway. gotta go training thingy. cya ya'll laters

[sketchling]

Yeah... you just are mollyx. haha. Its stuck. BTW if anyone is stuck for a movie to see... go see Team america!!!

[koshime]

I didnt know Mollyx (mollie axe) had another name....
I thought it was always Molly

[Molly]

dudes,

I go as 'Molly' the 'x' is a kiss...

Right, spoke to dirty_c. A few of us wouldlike to attend the IGDA meet in Kins Cross, its like 2 blokes from the station. I will meet FIRST at the Starbucks in Leicester Square, and those of you who are up for the other meet, can make you minds u then. It should be interesting. Sony are giving a talk about 'Staying in the Game' It would be a good to meet people and make some kinda contacts. If its shite, and nuthin to do with concept art, then we'll sit and drink and draw!!!!!! Okey Pokey...

Mollyx (muah!)

[trev]

Ok see you guys at starbucks - looks like i can make it in a bit ealier than i originally thought, should be there for aboot six.

[Molly]

haha. well it was to long for me, i change things alot woo. like ya wouldn't believe, and thanks. i guess it was kinda kool.
Sorry i lost one the koolest names on the board lol
I'll come up with something else just as good.
And i changed to SoulChild to relate to it, inside thing hehe. anyway. gotta go training thingy. cya ya'll laters


How about 'Kid' ? I dont rrrealy like 'Soul:Child' too hippie-ish for you my dear... How about Soul Food, Moon Beam? Or Star Child? Earth Boy or Freaky Mutha, or UnderAgedBrat? jokes jokes...

M.o.l.l.y......x

[koshime]

Or simply DudeArt instead of gender bending names or avatars?

[sketchling]

Haha... Koshime. I thought that was your name too ;) Whats the history with that name? Anime...? :) K

[Crane]

How about KISSMYASS or Captain motherfucker or Analproblems Woot.

And koshime...dudeart. thats so lame neerr. gender being avatars? Thats my girlfriend, dude. davi thought i was a girl hehe. wanted a kiss.


I could just shorten my last name to Black:Neon but no bullets.
Its just to long. Or Black:Neon;Soul:Child then we all happy. pssshh

[sketchling]

How bout 'KidGotIssues' ;)

I Like black neon bullet too... But maybe Blackneon is cooler. yeah I like Blackneon :)

here. have a gorilla.

[Dirty C]

How bout BlackKidGotIssues? Should keep everyone happy :P

[Crane]

Hey issues are kool! Be nice or i'll have ya head when i become a serial killer. :x

I'll go for Blackneon then. woo. people these days. *shakes head*

Thanks for the gorilla, they make good music!

[Dirty C]

SkidmarkGotIssues?

[Crane]

How about suicidalonsleepingpills

[Dirty C]

Has anyone noticed that in the midst of this brilliant meeting of the minds, we've actually way passed the 1000 posts mark?

[Crane]

Yes. i check it all the time. always behind washinton tho
Closing in tho, 99 post behind. woo hoo :yayca:

[Badger]

Hey hope u guys had a good time, i alas had to take care of the bro.
Next time!

Oh and i see it was well worth me catching up on the thread, lol

-Badger-

[koshime]

Well - tax return ordel sorted. How did the meet go?

[cas]

I enjoyed myself. It was good to get to know a few more people, in addition to those I met in San Francisco.

Will have to make a habit of carrying my sketchbook around with me. Watching everyone drawing made me feel guilty I wasn't taking part!

Chris

[Dirty C]

Haha, that's how they all start. Guilt is the way to artistic achievement!

[sketchling]

Yeah. It helps with religion too. Trick is to get a bible sketchbook combo....

haha. sorry. Will go confess...

[Molly]

Hey Fellas,

Nice to see people last night, the meet went well.
Didnt do much drawing, but the IGDA meet was cool. Seeing the PSP for the first time, was awesome. I'm sooooo getting me one when they arrive in England (I bet it will cost a bomb tho:()

By they way, I got a new phone - so I am mobile again hahaha!

Molly x

[Dirty C]

same number?

[koshime]

just dial 0778-Molyneux-mobile

[Alex Kaiser]

Hola, anyone up for meeting in London during the weekend sometime? like sunday or monday?

[Molly]

same number?


YUP, same number - new hand set - about bloody time too

Molly x

[cartoonfox]

man, this thread moves faster than irc on a friday night ^-^


yeah, was cool seeing you all again. too bad i had to leave so early... i missed my train again!!^-^
by not even a minute, i saw it leaving the the platform. wasnt my fault this time, i was on the tube, and it stoped for about 6/7 minutes, then changed to a circle line, so when i got off i had to run up, outside and down the 'other' paddington for my train.
luckily there was another at 10:45, i didnt get home till 1:30 am ^-^

anyway, woke up today with a worse sore throat, so thats why im at home. hopefully it'll be gone by tommorrow, i dont want to miss anymore painting classes.
btw, heres a link to my sketchbook thread for kim (and anyone else interested) where i've posted some of my small paint studies.
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=19144&page=17&pp=20


hope to see y'all again real soon ^-^




peace :7up:

[Crack_dealer_Dan]

Blatant. Count my rusty penned-ass in.*

(hello by the way. Lovely meeting you all at the rubbish IGDA thing)

*it's Dan btw.

[Dirty C]

Awright Dan! Nice nic/avatar combo. Maybe not as good as SoulChild and a picture of your girlfriend, but hey, we can't all be the same.

For those of you who weren't at the game meeting thing, Dan's someone we met there who's hanging round in the game industry in a fairly flexible role, by the sounds of things.

Oh, and it's Christian, btw.

PS BNB - when you changing your name back? Or has Davi realised you ain't a girl?

[Crane]

Proud to be different!
And weird, and a stalker, obsessive...ahem!

I don't think i am. davi knows man, he knows! think his recovering from the hype of hoping to get kissed by such a beautiful girl lol.

Unless you can convince him. maybe molly could ya know. actualyl being a girl and all lol.
ANyway. Hi to Dan! welocme to home. :yayca:

[Molly]

Hey Dan!

Tekura here, nice meeting you on Weds at the meet. The only good part of the meet was holding the PSP! :)

Welcome to the boards Dan, nice to see you, hopefully you'll like us all and never want to leave...

Aw fellas last nights autopsy eeek.... After a while, I had no idea what I was looking at. Prof. Von Hagans made a complete mess of the male and female reproductive organs. Why couldnt he have just used a plastinated model? hahaha - aw man, it was cringe material....fantastic.

Molly x

[Crack_dealer_Dan]

Hello lads (and lady... Tekura? I thought your name was Molly?)

As for the autopsy, I've not been up till late enough to watch it, though the idea reminds me of that Bodyworlds exhibition (not bad, but got a bit dull near the end). I hope they release it on DVD. Some bloody good ref material in there I imagine.

Splitting genitals ain't that bad. Snapped mine (banjo string only thankfully) only a few months ago. Not very painful, though the blood loss (think 'running tap') does make you a little queasy... :S

Definitely up for some sketch-a-thon. Got a spare stylus too for you travelling painter ninjas. As long as it ain't in the middle of nowhere, I'm in. Or, you're all welcome round my yard up in Highgate/Parly Hill.

[koshime]

Who the fish is Tekura!
Right, when are we organising another sketch a thon? paint a thon?

[Bun]

I dont know how to paint. :nohope:

[Dirty C]

Digitally or traditionally? (I'm guessing both)

What would you like to know?

[Bun]

i just need to practice more...or maybe learn how to. Concentrated too much on drawing since the start rather than painting. now i find myself lack of colour sense, bad at picking the right colours and the way how light works.

maybe i should start painting some apple. god i hate brush

[Dirty C]

That's how I started as well - it seems that most people do. Those that start with painting get more respect, but hardly ever get as good at anatomy as those who drew first.

The important thing for me in making the transition from drawing to painting was realising the differences. Drawing is about finding the borders of things - the point at which an arm meets the air on your paper. Painting is about describing the masses, where everything is a blob that needs to be refined by refining the shapes of it and the blobs around it. The way I taught myself to overcome the difference was to do life drawing in charcoal, and to start using the side of the charcoal, and lightly, building up the density with successive marks, finding the borders as you go. That way you're 'growing' the different areas into each other, not being too precious about the lines, and starting to think the way that you might if you were painting.

In other news..
Man, seriously crashing here. Played a set at a friend's rave in Elephant & Castle last night. Went really well, the natives seemed to think, but didn't sleep too well when we got home at 7, if you know what I'm sayin.

[Dirty C]

Oh, the other thing is to try and finish every composition - all that stuff you hear about 'negative space' which always sounded like bullshit? It ain't, it's how you learn to paint. So in anything over like ten minutes, do your best to at least 'mass in' the environment. It might mean just hashing in a bunch of darks on one side, and lighter on the other side to accentuate the form.

[Bun]

oh cool. thanks for the tip :^^:
I just recently started doing that infact.

does anyone here paint still life at home as a practice kind thing

[Badger]

Hey Bun, I find setting up a scene. Then using a limited palette to paint it in an hour. You only have time to suggest the forms and work tonally. Using A2. Well it works for me. (use clutter and cloth too)
Hope all are well!
AAaaahh well
Laterz Peeps :zzz:
-Badger-

P.S. Anyone else on the MSN messenger circuit?

[Dirty C]

yeah, practically all of us are on messenger. view profile and grab it from there - i'm cmacnevin@hotmail.com

[Crane]

I'm guessing some people here don't know Mollys real name is tekura.

Tekura people!! I only know that because Tom informed me at the first meet.
At 1st i thought he said sakura and i'm like shes japanese? woo kool. but ya shes not, but still as kool.

Anyway, can't really help bun there. but i'm sure DC is providing some nice shit lol.

Next meet people? /m\

[Dirty C]

Time for that deed poll, T.

[Summer Pudding]

Hey there art monkeys, is there any chance we can have our next art meet on a Monday?

[Dirty C]

Erk, I'm painting on Mondays these days. Wednesday work?

[Dirty C]

HEY!! What's this 'Location: London' stuff? You forget to change it, or are you down here agin at the moment?

[Schlo-mo]

LETs GO DRAwIN

[Crack_dealer_Dan]

Hey Dirty C. Been reading your tips on painting - I will definitely have them in mind when I attempt a Bruce Lee painting I'm working on.

As for meeting up, like I said, you guys are cool to check round my yard. I live in a 3 bed in Highgate/Kentish town and my flatmates are hardly ever here (ones a doctor, the other lives in a flat near his Uni for the most part).

Otherwise, that pub in Kings X weren't bad. And there's plenty decent places in Camden too.

[Dirty C]

Cheers for that Dan - might turn out to be helpful. In general, we seem to find that diogn it at smoeone's house is a good idea, as we can work digitally, and we get more done. Outings tend to be somewhat more social and involve a lot of walking around/eating/drinking.

Pete, you round? What's with the Monday bit?

[Summer Pudding]

HEY!! What's this 'Location: London' stuff? You forget to change it, or are you down here agin at the moment?

You can take the man out of London, but you can't take London out of the man. Guildford just doesn't have the same cachet.

I'm working down here during the week, and hightailing it up to Manchester on the Friday night to see the wife and kids.

Yeah, I guess it doesn't have to be Monday. We're doing a lot of late nights at the moment, but Monday isn't usually one of them.

Just let me know the next time you're meeting up on a weekday, I'll call in a favour or two, and leave early.

[koshime]

weekday drawings are hard esp after work...but weekends are generally better....

[Molly]

Hey Fellas,

I dont mind - whenever.

How about tomorrow night? And lets NOT meet at the Barstrucks in Leicester Square pa-leeease?

Molly Moo x

[Crack_dealer_Dan]

Can't do tomorrow meself :(

As for days, I can do:

Sat day and Sunday all.

Next week Mon, Wed, Thurs eves and Sunday all.

[Dirty C]

I can't really do tomorrow either. Next Wednesday would be cool for me though :)

[cas]

i wouldn't mind meeting up on sunday. looking forward to getting some painter tips!

chris

[koshime]

me off for a medical course from sunday till fri next week,so you guys have a good one on me

[sketchling]

I was keen for today, But I realised that if I meet... I wont make the deadline for usa vs world thunderdome... and I really wanna do something for that!!!

So I no come tonight either!
:(
K

[Dirty C]

Please tell me you've done some paintings since september last year, Kim.

Hey, I was just thinking abuot something. Do you think that it's harder to get praise on ca these days? Like, do you think that in the last year or so, since it started rocketing in popularity, that the standard has been getting higher?

[koshime]

I dont know so much about praise.
I think constructive criticism and guide to improving ones paintings and sketchings are hard to give and meagre in recieving.

I do think the level of overall improvement in most of the artist on these boards has trippled at least. And the trend i see is a growing disparity of folk just starting out, folk with great talent and artistry, and lesser folk of skill and artistry in the midle. Like two humps and a small plateau in between.

What. ther eis a world vs USA thunderdome? when did that happen?

[Molly]

Cant do tonight either fellas, got to sort my website out, got a friend doing it for me ! yay! (and My TD too...)

As far as the quality on here, yup, a lotta people have rocketed skill wise since joining or IMO, since attending a workshop. For example, Hurricane. He's excelerated with his Painter and Pencil skills, its unbelievable. (tho, imo he has some proportional issues with his figures and foreshortening)...
Personally, you can still get praise when posting work, but its only from friends etc so you get the usual, 'you rock', 'your awesome' etc etc. To get real praise for an image you have done, well, I think it would have to be dead good etc etc to get any professional reaction.
But all these follow with a crit or two...

I dunno if I got you right on the praise thing Christian, what kinda praise you talking bout?

Molly x

[Summer Pudding]

The P word eh? Praise is all well and good, but constructive criticism is what, I imagine most people want. The trouble is, there are loads of pictures out there, with so much wrong with them, that by the time you've finished ripping it to shreds, you're essentially advising them start again from scratch. I tend not to reply to these posts, because I think my response could be more dispiriting than encouraging.

There is also malign neglect to contend with. A friend of mine who recently achieved professional status has posted some phenomenal work here and on Sijun, much of which was criminally ignored. The minute the powers that be anointed him as a 'professional' the dickless fanboys started replying. Tossers.

Anyway, back to Mr Bungle, and my sordid grief hole for a bit.

seeyez

[Schlo-mo]

I agree with what has been said already about the praise and comments factor, ive discussed it with christian othertimes but I think its futile to protest or complain about it any further. The phenomenon of celebrity is rampant all over this site and its one of the factors that pushes me to stop posting art work on here, and go to eatpoo.com and the likes instead.

Im curious as to who that friend was, SummerP? Ive lurked sijun for a longtime (post count of one!) So im interested in who it could be.


oh and I totally agree about the progression of artists here. Although I think someone could progress quite easily if they just lurked this site and didnt post for feedback. If you just observe, follow the demos and tutorials, draw/paint/speedpaint everday on your own you can learn sooooo much.

[Summer Pudding]

PMed their name and threads started by them, to preserve their annonymity, and so you can see I'm not talking about myself. In fairness to CA, the Sijun crowd gave him a rougher deal.

[Dirty C]

Hm, I guess the P word wasn't quite what I meant. Well, maybe I did. I guess what I was really trying to say was kinda what Koshime was saying: this site turned a tiny field of a few talented individuals into an insane race for glory for a few thousand nerds just like me :)

And I think more my problem is that I tend to skip the bits which say "I love this yada yada" and see the problems in my own work about 300 times faster than the good points :)

Anyway, onwards and upwards.

[koshime]

heh, lets just make this a UK ult improvement thing. Got to give the yanks a run for thier mah honey...

[Badger]

Well as i'm one of the new members i don't know how it was last year. But this is by far the friendliest forum i've been on. Good mix of people that aren't over reactive (except the joyous forum debates, but even they are well below the normal troll level).
But i think the community aspect is amazing, with sketch books and these local artist groups, really great.
Where's Poshspice??
-Badger-

[acuna_read]

I think everyone on here's a FUCKING KNOB-jockey and am fed-up with post's about smarmy presidents and homicidal kids in the US. They should all go and die then be re-born, then DIE AGAIN!

Saying that though, I think your all pretty cool from those ive met. ;)

[Dirty C]

Hm. Well, to be honest, it's hard to judge someone so directly without an appreciation of their environment. It's the same logic so many in the US apply to terrorists - they don't have a reason, they don't love anybody, they haven't been treated badly, they're just EVIL. So let's not fix the cause, let's just shoot the problem.

Ahem. Man, I'm still sick. I can't believe this. I'm on antibiotics now - if they don't work I'm gonna kill somebody.

[Dirty C]

Plus, today I tried to buy a Jon Foster ipod skin from macskinz.com, and the site is shit. I can't make it let me give them money!! Stupid thing.

[Molly]

heh, lets just make this a UK ult improvement thing. Got to give the yanks a run for thier mah honey...

Damn straight!


Molly x

[Aly Fell]

Where's posh spice??
-Badger-
I'm here! Just been busy on my Thunderdome entry. And hoping Dirty_c has forgiven me for that little avatar escapade... :heart: By the way it's Posh with a capital 'P', I'll have you know! ;)

[acuna_read]

I was joking Mr.C lol ;)

[Dirty C]

I'm here! Just been busy on my Thunderdome entry. And hoping Dirty_c has forgiven me for that little avatar escapade... :heart: By the way it's Posh with a capital 'P', I'll have you know! ;)

Hm. The old one was better. Liked the stuff on her face. Ahem.

And oops - sorry Acuna, it's so easy to take everythign at face value in text. Should have known you weren't that thick :D

Still can't get me ipod skin damn it

[Badger]

By the way it's Posh with a capital 'P', I'll have you know! ;)
Corrected :P

[Wallasaurus]

Sorry to be a nosebag, but do most of you guys work in the uk games industry?

cheers,

chris w :)

[IllustriousHarry]

heh, lets just make this a UK ult improvement thing. Got to give the yanks a run for thier mah honey...

ROAR, well said. Besides, its good to be in it for the journey as much as any end goal. And I don't think the world is going to ever one day go "RIGHT SORRY, were full up on creative people, you can go and die in a hole somewhere". But if you do end up in a hole, atleast your in a whole with drawing and painting skills and a CRAZY imagination.

[Molly]

Sorry to be a nosebag, but do most of you guys work in the uk games industry?

cheers, chris w :)

Hi Chris, Welcome to the UK Group!

In answer to your question, a few of us on this UK thread are in the Industry. I'd like to be in it too. :)

dirty_c - you still cant get ur Foster ipod skin?..lemme go talk to Mr Foster, I'm in love him you know...but when I get within 50 yards of his house, the police always come. Something 'bout a restraining order...

Molly x

[Dirty C]

Actually I just realised they say there'll be some available on Monday. Hope so!!

[koshime]

I'm still waiting for my 20gb ipod...and skin......in a few days they say...

[sketchling]

Hi Guys :) Need some quick judgement from ppl... Which of these two images should I send to the world VS USA thunderdome?:
www.sketchling.com/artwork/thunderdome_sketchling.jpg
www.sketchling.com/artwork/thunderdome_sketchling_v1.jpg


Personally im irritated iv had so little time to paint them. they are a bit rushed. I now hate both so can anyone tell me which they like better?

The brief was 'abandoned factory'
:)
Cheers
K :zzz:

[cas]

Sketchling - I prefer the first image because it gives me the impression that I'm in the environment observing the scene. Also, because there isn't a figure in the image, the enrvironment feels more important than in the second image.

Hope this helps.

What is it that you don't like about the first one, if you don't mind me asking? :)

Chris

[koshime]

sketch one is th ebetter enviroment shot but doesnt show tha tit is an abandoned factory. more like a gas forest or aquatic forest

sketch two is more an appropriate setting but would love to see the caustics and something to offset the dark tones off the foreground besides the blue hues

[allthisandmore]

not sure either of them convey the "abandonment" feel. I like the second one, though.

[Matt Dixon]

Both images look really good, Kim. I think the first is a more effective piece overall but the second seems a better interpretation of the topic, though possibly just because it's a little more obvious.

I agree with cas, though - the silhouetted figure in the foreground perhaps isn't necessary. I have to say that I love what you've done with the industrial features in the horizon in this one, though - it really draws you into the pic and gives a great sense of scale. Nice job!

[Matt Dixon]

Oh yeah, and get your arses over to Fozzybar's 'Creature Of the Week' section and join in..!

Creature Of the Week (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=74)

[Red Giant]

hey fellow uk'ers. Please tell m im right in thinking that we have until 8 am sunday morning to finish entries fir the usa vs world thunderdome!

[Aly Fell]

Red Giant - you are quite right. 8AM Sunday morning for the Brits, as we're 8 hours ahead of Seattle. Just sent mine off... through a haze of almost solid knackerdness.

Sketchling - I love the first image, but that might be because it feels more finished. Fab work on both though! :)

[Molly]

aw, Im soooo tired...

Sketchling (bit late now, but...) Love the first pic you did. But prefer the second in relation to the topic. Agreed that the figure in the foreground isnt needed...Man, overall they are so cool...:)

Just sent my TD pic over, hope I aint too late!
Hhmmm...Creature of the Week? Sounds good to me...

Mollyx

EDIT: like OMG, thats sooooo unfair! 12.05am and they is getting all :S for my entry being 5MINS LATE! I mean, come on :rolleyes: for fucks sake...

Mx

[Crack_dealer_Dan]

Righty then.

So when's you pen sluts up for the hot drawing / painting action?

This week is tough for me as it's my last week at work, though it's also Chinese New Year.

So - for me,

Tuesday (training),
Wednesday (Chinese New Year),
Friday (party),
Sunday (pre Valentines with woman)

= all out

Boo!



P.S. Dude with the thunderdome pics - I like the second one best. If that's the standard on here, then I'm gonna have to up my game pretty damn fast...

[Dirty C]

It's not the standard, Kim's a professionalmatte painter and king of moody environments. Don't worry too much :)

[Badger]

I'm in new york till sunday incase anyone wanted to know and i didn't say on MSN.
*cough* city project (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=366299#post366299) *cough*
-Badger-

[Wallasaurus]

Hi Molly, and hello to the rest of y'all. :) nice to 'meet' you and all that. :D

K, so who's in the industry then? How long for, and what do you think of it, aspire to do eventually? My nosebag is in full effect, so feel free to ignore me. :wink:

[Crack_dealer_Dan]

I am in the industry as a concept designer / biz dev guy.

Basically, if you're working for a developer, expect a low salary and rough hours - especially now. If you chip your way to the top (change companies as much as possible for better pay and you'll get this quicker), your salary will improve significantly.

There are only a few developers I would wish to work at as a creative guy, as only a few developers truly respect and understand the creative process. In my opinion, they are -

Oddworld Inhabbitants (San Luis Obispo in CA)
Starbreeze Studios (Sweden)
IO (Copenhagen)
Valve (sod knows)
Epic (see above)
or somewhere small, unknown, hungry and optimistic, with very few egos poisoning the water.

Otherwise, use a big company if you don't mind being a bitch for a while and learn everything you can. It looks great on a CV before you go somewhere else and do some proper work.

My 2 pence


D

[Wallasaurus]

..egos poisoning the water.

hmmmmm.. funny you say that - sadly rings true to me. :(

[sketchling]

Cheers for the advice people :) Now I look back on them, I like em more. Just hated the deadline thing! stresssssssss. :) I didnt like the image with the guy because it was a bit forced and obvious.... and I knew there was not enough detail in the right places.... also the values were a bit murky... in fact after fiddling i began to feel like the environment looked underwater-ish. So it ended up becoming just that! :) Drowning my problems as such.

Wallasaurus - Iv been in MPC (www.moving-picture.com) for just over a year now. texturing, matte painting and whatever they need really. Where do Iwant to be? I dunno really at the moment im quite happy. I would love to get into games at some point, because im really passionate about them, but when... I have no idea :) You?

K

[Wallasaurus]

@sketchling - sounds pretty cool for ya. I'm in games at the moment. It's not really going the way I want it to for me though, so I'm considering moving in some way, be it another devco or some other field. (Too much stress for too little personal/professional benefit at the mo.)

Problem is, UK games industry is hardly in great shape, and my portfolio needs more than a bit of spit and polish. bah humbug! :) I'd better get to it, eh.

On a related note, UK dudes - please feel free to crit my website like frenzied banshees, and I'll better be able to fix it up. :) it's here - http://www.chriswaller.co.uk

Interesting info so far.

[sketchling]

Well... tis 8 and im still at work... BUT thats cause I have been having fun :) www.sketchling.com/artwork/2005/atmospheric_mountains.jpg Man there is some cool stuff you can do with custom brushes!!!

:)
K

[Dirty C]

one crit kim: the hills on the right are all the same shape - matt dixon would have your arse for that.

(not that he needs much excuse, I'm sure :D)

[Dirty C]

And hey, ye of the Crack: where's me freelance contract? :P

[sketchling]

Hahaha. Very true. I hate that... I ALWAYS do that... hmmm. more drawing from life methinks... gotta break the patterns.

Maybe the hills ARE like that...
or on that note
'Maybe the universe IS fuzzy - hubble telescope technician' :nohope:

[Dirty C]

Oh, wallasaur - the pictures on your site don't seem mto load when the new window pops up - is it ie-specific code by any chance?

[Wallasaurus]

hmm shouldnt be, but i didnt test it on every browser - out of interest what browser r u using?

it seems to work with IE and mozilla firefox.. i didnt try netscape. I must fix that. If anybody knows a good way to generate html pages from images (or where to look to find out) that'd be cool... :)

[Matt Dixon]

Cheeky twats. Actually, I was going to say how much I enjoyed the repetitious topography in that area... ;)

Are we ready for our UK Thunderdome then, boys and girls..?

[Aly Fell]

Are we ready for our UK Thunderdome then, boys and girls..?


Norf versus Sarf... Definitely, but maybe after the end of February. I personally want to get my Expose piece done before the deadline, which is kinda unusual for me... :S

BTW Great submissions to the Thunderdome from ALL the UK peeps! Molly, have you managed to talk Jetpack round yet?

[sketchling]

Yeah... expose. ERk... I must not forget that! Im up for a thunderdome for sure... but I like the end of feb idea.

Anyone wanna meet up this week? Im thinkin tommorrow is a good night... or tonight. actually, anytime but fri or sat really :)

[Summer Pudding]

Are we ready for our UK Thunderdome then, boys and girls..?

Bring it. The Big Smoke vs The Country Bumpkins? At a glance it looks like there's a 50/50 split between those of us from London, and the rest of the country.

I'll take anybody on. Not fussed who.

[cas]

I could perhaps meet up on Thursday after work. However Friday and Saturday afternoon is also good.

As an aside, I asked whether the Art Academy - where I'm enrolled on a part-time painting course - would let us use their studio during the weekend. They said yes, for a small fee (no more than £12 for the whole day, but probably less).

The reason I looked into this is because I was hoping to organise my own life drawing session for Saturday/Sunday afternoons. Would anyone be interested in attending? We could perhaps draw/paint the model for a few hours and then go on to something else. The cost of the model would be split by however many people attend.

Chris

[acuna_read]

Anyone meeting up on the 22nd as im in Soho for the whole day so easy to get about.

[Crack_dealer_Dan]

I could perhaps meet up on Thursday after work. However Friday and Saturday afternoon is also good.

As an aside, I asked whether the Art Academy - where I'm enrolled on a part-time painting course - would let us use their studio during the weekend. They said yes, for a small fee (no more than £12 for the whole day, but probably less).

The reason I looked into this is because I was hoping to organise my own life drawing session for Saturday/Sunday afternoons. Would anyone be interested in attending? We could perhaps draw/paint the model for a few hours and then go on to something else. The cost of the model would be split by however many people attend.

Chris

This idea = me like.

Also - Mr Dirty; your freelance contract is sadly not going to be at Bits. They moaned that they don't need concept designers, much as the art guys want to hire em in. You'd be better off doing a Craig Mullins and going via a publisher (at least I think that's what he did). In fact, people on this board may know him...

[Dirty C]

where's the art academy, cas? and crackho dan: anything i do like craig mullins is bound to be slightly less impressive than how he takes a shit. but if you've got any tips in that arena, feel free to share 'em.

dixon, i been wantin to take on yo ass like a hick up a bayou. you'll paste me to the wall like a used tissue, but if you're up for it, ah am.

[Crane]

Uk thunderdome!
Well I'll give it a go. it won't be very good since i'm still doing crap.
guess i could face harry since his better than me, but more nearer my level and anyone else here. woo.

erm...>other random things here<

[Molly]

Matt - TD come we go!

Posh - it was almost a 'Molly vs the USA' then phew! Man, they rrrreally are strict over there...

cas - I'd be well up for that! £12.00 for the whole day?
I've been looking to take up a painting/life drawing class this year, one that has longer hours and is more than 10 wks. Where is the academy btw? If you could gather some info for us all that would be great.
It would be cool to have control over the classes etc. We'd get more done, and more out of it. The last meet in Nov was 6 hrs of life drawing that dirty_c organised for us all. A good bunch of us turned up. I enjoyed that and came away with 3 real nice pieces.

ok, ok - nuff chattin - UK MATCH! Norf 'n' Sarf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Moooo! x

[Crane]

Are we picking teams and victims now then?
or waiting till ...sometime..

[trev]

Ide be well up for going to a life drawing class on the weekends. =) And the thunderdome... :perv:

[IllustriousHarry]

Uk thunderdome!
Well I'll give it a go. it won't be very good since i'm still doing crap.
guess i could face harry since his better than me, but more nearer my level and anyone else here. woo.

erm...>other random things here<

THUNDERDOME! Sounds good. Better..pah, If I'm any better in anyway it would be because i'm not from the south :P (Insert provoking regional football chant here)

"conceptart.orgy" hahaha, beautiful.

I wonder if there will be any Thunder or Domes in this one. Since this is supposed to be the home of the some of the most imaginative artists on the net, you'd think better competition names would appear.

But anywhoo, Draw your Weapons

[Crane]

TD TD TD!
screw ya football chants!!

conceptart.orgy. simple is the best lol.
so, taking me on and losing!! on actually winning...

and ya ya right. thunderdome, its a rip!. but makes sense
should be something like. orgy battle! lame! hehe.
or maybe, arty farty cat fight......ramble..

...... would we get kim? sarf?

[Dirty C]

WHY IS EVERYONE AWAKE?????

I'm going to bed..

[Matt Dixon]

Right. How does this sound, then?

NORF vs SARF Thunderdome.

Split participants into two ( hopefully ) equal teams, based on location - you'd have to state which side you want to fight for when you step up. As the SARF will clearly be at a disadvantage, they get to choose who to face off against in the NORF.

For a change, I'd like to see us all tackling the same topic - something nice and loose, like creating a cheesy Thunderdome fighter ( maybe based on a self-portrait? ) so both sides end up with a little 'army'. What do you think? Otherwise, I guess we just set up individual topics like before...mumble...bor-ing...mumble...

Deadline in mid-March ( Monday 14th? ) so it doesn't conflict with last-minute Expose entries. Want to hold off a bit before we 'start'?

I'm happy to host finals if you like.

I suppose we should open a thread in the Challenge bit so we don't clutter this place up. ( Molly? You're the UK spokesthingy... :) )

[Matt Dixon]

Dirty_c - You're on.

[Dirty C]

yeah we might as well go for the 'one concept' idea i reckon. that way there's pressure on all ofus to make it original, which can otherwise be lacking.

[cas]

£12.00 for the whole day? I've been looking to take up a painting/life drawing class this year, one that has longer hours and is more than 10 wks. Where is the academy btw? If you could gather some info for us all that would be great.

The Art Academy is near Southwark tube station (5 minutes walk from Waterloo). They said it'd cost no more than £12 per person (maybe less depending on the number of people) for the entire day, although this doesn't include a life model. I'll ask the life model about costs at this evenings drawing session, here at work.

If anyone knows of an alternative space, which is big enough, I don't mind organising the model. Where did you host the November drawing session, Dirty_C?

As for the North vs. South Thunderdome; is this the first UK-only event? I wouldn't mind seeing everyones previous work - any links?

Molly - btw, you did get my PM, listing drawing and painting courses in London?

Chris

[sketchling]

Im up for it... I like the self portrait idea for a character... hmmm. hahaha. :zzz:

[Dirty C]

I can't remember the name of the place we did the thing last time - I'll have to have a long thinks..

Ok, so self-portrait.. I like that idea as well - never really done one. Well, not a real one, they were all pisstakes. What else? Maybe we should make ourselves imaginary extras in something like LOTR.. one side could go Sauron's side, the other the Alliance races.. have to come up with a decent story for them as well? Like "I am Earinhole, tiolet cleaner of Rivendell" or somesuch..

[Dirty C]

Thinking about my diea some more - I'd liek to do something more obscure than that, as it's a bit of a giveaway, though it mightbe an easy way to get people to actually get off their arse..

[Molly]

Right. How does this sound, then?

NORF vs SARF Thunderdome.

Split participants into two ( hopefully ) equal teams, based on location - you'd have to state which side you want to fight for when you step up. As the SARF will clearly be at a disadvantage, they get to choose who to face off against in the NORF.

For a change, I'd like to see us all tackling the same topic - something nice and loose, like creating a cheesy Thunderdome fighter ( maybe based on a self-portrait? ) so both sides end up with a little 'army'. What do you think? Otherwise, I guess we just set up individual topics like before...mumble...bor-ing...mumble...

Deadline in mid-March ( Monday 14th? ) so it doesn't conflict with last-minute Expose entries. Want to hold off a bit before we 'start'?

I'm happy to host finals if you like.

I suppose we should open a thread in the Challenge bit so we don't clutter this place up. ( Molly? You're the UK spokesthingy... :) )

haha - spokesthingy...

I rrrreally like the idea of making a cheesy character out of self portraits! Thats such a cool idea! We get to do SP'd AND a char concept. I prefer one subject than individual. We can help eachother out, and it would be good to see how each one of us approach it. Man, this is gonna be fun!

Once everyone has confirmed, and we have opponants we'll start a thread in the Challenge Arena saying what we're up to etc.
Finals in the 'Finished' section, and if you guys want, you could start a thread in the 'Sketches' section too. Matt, when do think we should start the UK TD???? :)

CAS - yup, I got ur PM. If we get enough people from the London area to partake in weekend life drawing do you think the academy could bring the price down from £12 per person to £5-7? I only ask this because we could either do life drawing every sunday or every 2 weeks. Also, we'd have to pay the model, so theres that to think about. If others outside of here from the academy want to join in then the more the merrier.
I'd rrreally love for this to take off asap, as I am itching to do some life drawing!!!
dirty_c, Kim, Schlo-mo, trev, Koshime, acuna, imery, Dan - and anyone else in London - wot you think???

Moooohoooo!

[Matt Dixon]

With the imagery from those tedious movies still all over the place, I think basing our work around LOTR ( or any other established 'universe' come to that ) would limit creativity a bit. I suppose there's no reason why individual challenges couldn't have some sort of theme, but it'd be interesting to see what everyone comes up with based on a single, loose brief.

If we're all happy with it, I'd like to leave things as open-ended as possible - 'Draw yourself as a Thunderdome warrior' - or something like that. There wouldn't have to be an element of self-portrait even, as long as you're creating a character that projects your personality in some way, and the figure can be in any style; fantasy, sci-fi, Sticklebricks, origami etc.

Freestyle, baby!

edit: Molly snuck in while I was replying to you, Dirty_C. Bad manners.

Start it whenever you want, Molly. I know some will be working on their Expose stuff until the 28th of this month, but there's a lot of UK'ers who don't often post in this bit ( I see you watching us, PJM! ) who would be good to get on board, so I s'pose the sooner we get things rolling the better...

[Dirty C]

I agree with not limiting. What I suggested compeltely goes against everything I intended with the City project actually, so yeah, let's not do lotr.

[Dirty C]

I think every other Sunday or something is a good idea. Every week really isn't workable for me, and I imagine a lot of people.Models go for about £8 - £10 an hour, by the way. How long would we be able to use the room for? As in, what times? And I'm sure Imery would be keen..

[cas]

How long would we be able to use the room for?

The hours are from 10am till 5.30, at the least. I think it may be possible to stay later.

I was thinking of having a model for around 3 hours followed by anything people want to do.

If it turns out to be a little too expensive we could make it a special event run once monthly. I'd be happy to pay £15 if it meant an entire day of solid work.

[acuna_read]

Life drawing sound's good, i've been looking to do some more, not to bad to get to from here as well. I know of one other person who would definately be interested for at least a few weeks to do a painting of her's, long-term i'm not sure but I can ask some other's. Every other week sounds good.

The TD sound's good but how about giving the individual opponents the choice to decide their SP's. So we know everyone has to do SP's then between them they decide to make, beast (like CFox's coll one) 8) ), meideval, futuristic apocalyptic(sp?) battle etc
Just let's the opponents make it more interesting for themselves as well as opposed to you must do blah bla blah.............

[sketchling]

I think the reason its a good idea for there to be one topic is that if FORCES you to apply a creative thought process to a problem... like you would do in an industry environment. I think this is a very good idea. Again, we would not do this every time... but its a bit of veriety and its a challenge! :painting:

[Dirty C]

who's judging? wanna go round someone up, molly?

and pete, you gonna take a crack? dunno who'd be up for it..

[Dirty C]

We're not doing anything tonight then are we?

[Schlo-mo]

I reckon I could be up for the Tdome, the self potrait as a character idea is really inticing. I cant see it working with one v one duels? Do we have the right numbers and skill levels, What about a group vs a group? ie the north as a group vs the south as a group, a combined effort from both sides. So each side would submit their seperate works and It would be judged from an overall standpoint.

[Dirty C]

Yeah, that's really hard to judge, though, cause one great entry with six crap ones will often win over six pretty good ones. My thinking is that we say that everyone is doing a self-portrait character, and each pairing agrees on the details beyond that. Admittedly, because there's not a million of us, we seem to have one person at every skill level, and only one or two at very similar levels. Even those of us who are about the same level are good in different areas.

So how about we kick off by getting everyone who's interested to stick their hands up? Then we can get a fair idea of fair pairings. As usual, I'm attempting to hit above my weight :)

[Schlo-mo]

I understand.

Well Im interested *hands up*
If anyone wants to know, give me a shout and Ill link you some of my more recent stuff.

[acuna_read]

Im in.

[koshime]

I'm game as well

[Aly Fell]

Me too!

[trev]

Yup! =)

[Matt Dixon]

Oui, monsieur! Hoheehorr!

[Molly]

Yup:)

Mx

[Crane]

taking all you norf bitches down like a rusty chainsaw with torettes

[IllustriousHarry]

I'm sharpening my claws and and pencils as we speak. I'm in

[Aly Fell]

Flipping heck, Sticklebricks! I remember those Matt! You could never get the wheels to go on properly. I used to keep mine in an R2D2 model kit box.

This is so annoying, I'm supposed to be getting on with my Expose piece and all I could do last night was think about how I was going to do a self portrait/warrior thing for this Thunderdome. Aaaaargh!

You know... I see a wasteland; a wasteland where once were Southerners, living in their overpriced houses, imagining a bleak nothingness beyond Watford. Now shrivelled husks, crying bitter tears at what might have been; what might have been before the crazed artistic hordes from the North crushed them into dusty shadows of their once mighty selves...

[Summer Pudding]

who's judging? wanna go round someone up, molly?

and pete, you gonna take a crack? dunno who'd be up for it..

The self portrait thing? You know it, and you show it baby. I take it the idea is we veer away from the mundane?

So, which one of you bitches wants to dance?

[sketchling]

Posh. you are a poet... a true poet. Thus do I challenge YOU. (tumbleweed rolls down the M5...) (thus do you become poetic justice and whip my ass... but ill give a good fight ;) ) :ninja++:

That is if we are still one-on-one? cant remember? Confuzzled.

[Aly Fell]

Posh. you are a poet... a true poet. Thus do I challenge YOU. (tumbleweed rolls down the M5...) (thus do you become poetic justice and whip my ass... but ill give a good fight ;) ) :ninja++:

That is if we are still one-on-one? cant remember? Confuzzled.

Sorry! I take it all back... Posh starts sweating, icy fingers play a dark and sinister tune up and down his spine. Has Posh gone too far...? Has Sketchling seen through his bluff? And so it begins...

I accept! Assuming we are, like you say, still one on one...?

PS... it's the M1 to Derby. ;)

[Matt Dixon]

*grabs reigns*

One on one matches. Easier to judge. Southerners pick their opponents in the north.

Subject for all matches - " Yourself as a Thunderdome warrior ". Beyond that, anything goes. If you have to have boundaries, sort something out between yourself and your competitor. As long as your final image is a character of some kind displaying something of your appearance and / or personality, it's all good.

Deadline mid-March. Monday the 14th unless anyone says otherwise.

Fighters so far -

Dirty_C
Summer Pudding
Koshime
Soul:Child
Molly
Schlo-Mo
Acuna_Read
trev
IllustriousHarry
Poshspice
Matt Dickface

Confirmed scraps -

Dirty_C vs Matt Dixon
Sketchling vs Poshspice

*throws reigns to Molly*

Time to start a thread in the challenge area, I reckon.

Looks like we need to round up a few more Northerners. They must be too busy eating black pudding and looking hard to check the thread. PM time.

[sketchling]

Haha... I nearly said m1. I just like that fact the M5 makes a boundry. A boundry of pure frustration and roadrage.... it seemed a good setting. The border of london. the gates of hell. (eh. and I work/live here... sheesh)

GAME ON! :)

[duddlebug]

woohoo!!

I'm in!! And i'm up North... although less up north than i used to be... but i'm a long way from London f'sure. And i like pies. And mushy peas. And whippets.

And this is my first post.

Who wants a go????

p.s. check out my website at www.duddlebug.co.uk

[duddlebug]

A whole hour... and nobody's picked me... *sigh*

It's like being at school and last to get picked for footy. Just because i wore wellies. And always ran the wrong way.

Maybe i'm being impatient...

Or over excited...

[duddlebug]

Um... me again...

Can we challenge the poncey southerners? can we? huh?

Or do we have to wait for them to challenge us? huh? huh? do we? huh?

I'll shut up now...

[Molly]

Duddlebug - Welcome to the Boards!
Fanatasic website man, real nice work you got going on!....

Hey Matt - *catches reigns*

Righteeo, if u could host the pics Matthew dear, that'll be lovely:)

OK Mon 14th March 05 as a deadline gives pa-lenty of time, so no excuses!!! (puts on yanky-hitler-hat!)

I'll start a thread in the Challenges Forum, with the list of the UK participants at the top, (so people know how many are taking part) and a list of matches (so WE know who's challenging who...)
So, who should we get to judge? I was thinking: Rusty, Oblio, Fozzybar, JoshuaTheJames, and EmilyG... I will ask and then post once they have confirmed? Is this ok with people???

Anyhoo - SummerPud - fancy a waltz around the floor? I'm game if you are:)

Someone PLEASE challenge Duddlebug!?!
Koshime? DrugDealerDan?
Anyone? Anyone?
;)

Molly x

[Matt Dixon]

Those judges sound good to me and yeah, I'm happy to host the final pics. Send 'em to mail@mattdixon.co.uk

Aren't you and Spud both representing the South, Molly? I suppose it doesn't really matter, but is Duddlebug that scary that you have to start on your own team before you'll take him on? G'waan...

[Summer Pudding]

SummerPud - fancy a waltz around the floor?

Yeah, ok, yerron. How's the hunt for northeners going Dixon?

welcome duddlebug.

[Matt Dixon]

More will come, but it's a bit redundant if you daft Southerners are going to kick the crap out of each other. You defecting to our team then, Spud?

[Aly Fell]

If he's going to defect to the North, he's going to have to cover himself in pig urine and hop on one leg singing The Birdie Song whilst juggling chicken drumsticks. 'Cause we all do that in the North, every day.... honest.... no really... we do...

[duddlebug]

Humpf... Londoners fightin' each other!! Bah!!

C'mon!! Molly and Pudding!! I'll take ya both on!! Well... After i've bathed my ferret.

Any other southerners wanna play...?

[Molly]

aaah, yeah, I forgot SummerPud was down 'ere....
- Hang on, your from up north? So you've crossed enemy lines and doing a recky (sp) of the situation? Hmmm...summink fishes going on...

ok, if yer gonna hang wit the Southeners, I'll take DuggleBug on, we cant be TOO redneck and beat the crap out of our own...
Tho, DuggleBug and his Monkey Girl may beat me to a pulp...:nohope:
I'll take my chances! (Spud you staying South or North?)

I will PM the chosen judges and then post in the Challenges Forum.

Guys - get ur challenges in ASAP!!!!!


Molly x

[Schlo-mo]

What?! theres none of them left!

[Matt Dixon]

Give it time...they will come. Plus IllustriousHarry is from Manchester, is he not? Cartoonfox would also be North if someone can persuade him to join in...

[Schlo-mo]

I'll put on my classic and have a dance with Trev anytime, if he wanted.
If you're unsure I'll send you over some of my work.


edit: Or cai or harry or whatever i just wanna start this mother!

[duddlebug]

Hey Molly!!

We can wait for Pudding to reply and clarify his alliegances... if he considers himself a southern champagne-quaffing lardy-da dandy i'd be delighted to take you on. :wink:

If he's back up here and eating pies and buffing weasels then you may as well keep to your contest...?

Maybe the thread in the challenges forum will attract some more challengers?

[Dirty C]

Molly - wanna see if Ron's available?

[Molly]

Maybe the thread in the challenges forum will attract some more challengers?

Yeah, I hope so, theres PJM and MuffinMan who are from London...

Spud - geeza? where you at?

(c'mon, we need a few more posts for our thread to beat the yanks)

Mollyx

[Dirty C]

(c'mon, we need a few more posts for our thread to beat the yanks)


Man, this thread sure is cool.

So cool.

Kinda hot in here.

Oh, and welcome Duddlebug!

BTW, plans are afoot with thoughts of studio rental. Molly and I are gonna start looking round to see what rent is like. Does anyone know anywhere renting studios in London? And is anyone else keen to join in our fun if it's economical? We dunno prices yet, btu figured it'd be good if about four of us were splitting it..

[Summer Pudding]

If he's going to defect to the North, he's going to have to cover himself in pig urine and hop on one leg singing The Birdie Song whilst juggling chicken drumsticks. 'Cause we all do that in the North, every day.... honest.... no really... we do...

Only if it's Waitrose Organic pig urine, and not that crap Morrisons peddles.

:perv:

Yeah, I guess I'm defecting. I've eaten a few Eccles cakes in my time, I'm practically Geoff Boycott.

I'm harranguing TheBrave to join us. He's a Taffy though, and says he has no allegiance to either tribe. Fingers crossed.

EDIT: blimey, this thread is shacking along. In the time I've typed the above message, it seems Molly's now going toe to toe with duddlebug.

I'm staying south, so who am I duelling with now? Anyone?

[Summer Pudding]

Spud - geeza? where you at?

(c'mon, we need a few more posts for our thread to beat the yanks)

Mollyx

Totally out of the loop on this. Is this a separate UK vs US TD? PM me a link.

EDIT: I'm such a dork. You mean THIS thread. I've just come back from an hour of 5 a side footie, my brain's a bit fizzy.

[sketchling]

Welcome to the Duddlebug! Love your stuff man. really unique and full of character!

I just had a word with a friend of mine here at work... he's got a similar type of style to Duddlebug... monkey_boy is his name :) Am going to try get him to challenge, cause the results are going to be very funny if they do go against eachother! :) Hmmm. me, a fierce warrior? Thats not gonna be easy. :(

K

[duddlebug]

ho hum... so mr.pudding's gonna slug it out with molly.

Sketchling... anyone will do!! I just need a challenger!!

I can't promise any monkeys though. I might have to go all patriotic and monkeys just aren't northern enough.

[Summer Pudding]

Right then, Duddlebug, in the absence of sketch's friend, are you ready for some pain from the Paddington Ponce, or is the civil war with Molly still on the cards?

You can check out my stuff below.

[acuna_read]

Seem's to me there are alot more southeners than northeners (I beleive the football chant is you "dirty northern bas*ard Harry ;) lol).

Perhaps let foreigners join the northeners to weigh up thing's if enough northerners dont join in?

[duddlebug]

um...? er...? wha...?

Now i'm really confused.

Mr.Pudding, I thought (because Mr.Dixon said) that you (and Molly) were both southern types. And that would make the contest 'a bit silly'. Being Norf vs. Sarf and everything. But then you said you were a northern blokey. So i thought that you were back with Molly. But now you say your the Paddington Ponce. And southern again. So. You want to challenge me? But what happens to Molly? And i think she said she'd challenge me if you were Northern. But now your southern. Um. I think. Er.

Or are you just fickle? Picking your side at will? Jumping around like an elusive pimpernel? :wink:

If you're northern... then you should take on Molly, shouldn't you? If you're southern it just gets confusing.

I think i've confused everyone... sorry...

Um...?

My head hurts.

[Molly]

SummerPud - (hahaha aw man, u made me laugh) So fo definate, you are defecting North? or.....

cos this is wot D'Bug said:
C'mon!! Molly and Pudding!! I'll take ya both on!! Well... After i've bathed my ferret.

dirty_c - I got JoshuaThe James, Rusty and emilyg to judge so far. I have PM'd Fozzybar and Oblio, so its up to them to get back. Damn, I shoulda thought about Ron, he'd ave been a good judge to have, sorry geez :dur: Shall I still? I think 5 is enough...

Mollyx

[duddlebug]

If there's a shortage of northerners, maybe it'd be best for Pudding (representing the north) to take on Molly like they wanted to do in the first place.

I'm happy to wait on another challenger...

Molly? Pudding?

[Summer Pudding]

I live up north, with my Boltonian missus, but I'm from London, and work down here (confusing, no?). I just thought I'd take you on to maintain the north vs south theme, and the thought of Molly's masscara running down her cheeks after I beat her senseless was too much to bear.

So, what's it to be? You up for it?

EDIT: GRAHH!!!!!! FUCKIT!! I'LL TAKE ON MOLLY!

Fin

[duddlebug]

SummerPud - (hahaha aw man, u made me laugh) So fo definate, you are defecting North? or.....

cos this is wot D'Bug said:
C'mon!! Molly and Pudding!! I'll take ya both on!! Well... After i've bathed my ferret.

hahaha... i was joking... but i'm game if we can't get enough northern scum together!!

EDIT TOO: PHeW!!! If Pudding's playing with Molly, I'll wait for another challenger!!

[Aly Fell]

(Maybe now's not the time to mention I was born in London...)

Never do owt fer nowt....etc. 'appen!

[Crane]

hey jonny!
Ain't seen ya in ages! real good ya here. welcome welcome,
hope ya remember me lol.

I'm taking on harry! be a less humiliating defeat for me. woo.

[Fozzybar]

*enters-thread-with-referee-costume*

No drawings below the belt - No lensflares - No stick figures! Hurting the eye is not allowed...and now - FIGHT!

*leaves-thread-naked*

[Crack_dealer_Dan]

So anyways...

is this shit on Sunday then or what?

If so, I would like to throw my gauntlett down. Though there is ring rust, so I imagine this will be like one long-ass warm up for me.

Also; I recommend you guys check this guy's shit out. Not bad...

http://www.dylancolestudio.com/index2.html

[Dirty C]

Nope, this is all handled in your own time, by the deadline. What was the deadline again? Was the challenge thread created yet? If so, chuck us the link.

[trev]

Ok duddlebug ill take you on... and probably have the preverbial smack down laid upon me. =) Oh well

[Molly]

I live up north, with my Boltonian missus blah blah blah...... Molly's masscara blah blah blah
EDIT: GRAHH!!!!!! FUCKIT!! I'LL TAKE ON MOLLY!
Fin

Ok Spud - THATS FINAL! YOU AND ME! but you gots to be 'Northerner in London' then....

And its not mascara running, itsmywarpainticantbelieeeeeveyousaid that!afterallthetimeispentceremoniouslypaintingeac hindividualsmearlinesthatrundownmyface!ohmygod-a!yourlikesoooooofacistinnitlikeateacherihadatscho olrightshehadabeardonherchinandsmeltofvinegarbutsh eleftcosshehadanervousbreakdownaftersheranroundthe schoolinherunderwearwavingapenguinaboveherheadwhil stchantingthelyricstocCaliforniaUberAllesbythedead kennedys....

you made me cry and go all high pitched...

Hey Foz...

Mollyx
(sulking)

[duddlebug]

splendid.

I have a challenger!!

i'll see you at dawn, Mr.trev, sir...

[trev]

Dawn eh?...you could have a bit of a wait, Im a student so i probably wont be up untill at least 12 ;)

[Summer Pudding]

you made me cry and go all high pitched...




So it begins.

You're like Arsene Wenger to my Alex Ferguson. Luke to my Obi-Wan.

hahaha.....suffahhhhhhhhh

[Matt Dixon]

So...

( Southern representative first )

Sketchling vs Poshspice
Dirty_c vs Matt Dixon
Molly vs SummerPudding
trev vs Duddlebug

Dirty_c - Deadline was Monday March 14th.

[koshime]

who wants to take on my technicolour rainbow blandness :)

[TheBrave]

So.............

whats the subject?

...........and whats this about north Vs south?

Being a welshman im only partialy linked to each camp, south by location, north by attitude, politics and economics.

......but i live in surrey, so i guess that makes me south.

but if there arent many northerners then ill be a proto northerner for the sake of the comp.

........................

[Dirty C]

Given that one of our best chances just went and decided he was a northerner, I think we'd prefer you stuck round :)

(and don't worry, I'm from new zealand, and you don't get much more southern)

the theme is a self portrait as a thunderdome warrior. whoever you pair up with and you can decide to specify other things, but the self portrait part is the main driver. Do feel free to think laterally, however. This is, after all, Concept Art.

[Molly]

We Rock.

(Matt - thanx ever so for your writing skills,. I copyed/pasted wot you wrote earlier in the thread..hehe)

UK Thunderdome The North Vs The South (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=403883#post403883)

Please converse in this thread in the same manner as you have been doing in here.

Love
Mollyx

[munozvelazquez]

http://www.davidmartinez.com/~davidmunoz/

[IllustriousHarry]

Hi munozvelazquez and Hi Duddlebug.co.uk. I checked out both your websites and :O i'm impressed!. Hidden dimonds, in the rough of the North. Can't have been a better time to appear. Sorry munozvelazquez if I've confused you but Civil war just broke out in the UK, you've probably picked it up. The explanation and breifing is here http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=403883#post403883

[Matt Dixon]

David - Follow this link to the challenge thread UK Thunderdome (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=403883#post403883)

( I added your stuff, hope you don't mind :) )

[Molly]

Welcome to the boards btw David! Fantasic work dude! should make the UK Thunderdome more interesting!

Mollyx

[munozvelazquez]

Hi Anarky i accept you challenge, would be a honor.

There can be only one ;)

[Matt Dixon]

Reminder about Fozzybar's Creature Of the Week activity - C.O.W. (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=74)

The last two have been a blast, and this week's topic is 'Anal Parasite'. How can you resist?

[ANARKY]

Hi Anarky i accept you challenge, would be a honor.

There can be only one ;)

Hhehehe, No probs mate. Im so going to loose!

Didnt know there was a UK Thread. Thats cool. Im based in Surrey South London and work as a Proffessional Artist (In-house and Freelance) and was introduced to the boards by Poshspice(so blame him). Looks like a cool place to hang out and share some work and stuff.

Did I hear you guys do meet ups? Sounds cool and id love to come along to one.

Well, i'll see you round the boards Im sure.
Cheers
Andy
AKA; ANARKY :pirate:

[Badger]

Hey GUYS DID YOU MISS ME!?..... more likely forgot
geeeeze I leave for a week and everyone gets all thunderdrome'ed I can see the pro plus lined pencils now!
anywayz, how is everyone in the land of the expensive clothes and proper grass? I missed my cat!
Anyone wana challenge my meagre attempts at line joining?
-Badger-

[Dirty C]

Hi Andy,

Yup, we do have meetups every month or thereabouts. In geenral they've been on a Sunday, lately at my place. Though just recently they've tended to be at night. We've not got much drawing done in bars though, so I think we're looking to do another weekend meet soon. Keep watching this thread and we'll sort something out soon enough.

[Crack_dealer_Dan]

Where do we post our thunderdrome entries then?

And what the fuck is a thunderdrome character?

P.S. I'm in, and from Norf lundin

[Molly]

Hey Dan

Email your entry to Matt Dixon - (please check TD thread for address) A Thread will be made in the 'Finished' Forum, and all entries will be posted there. Name your entry with your online name; n (for north) s (for south) .jpeg...etc etc etc...

A thunderdome character? someone who looks real mean and has offensive weapons and fights for glory and honor and pride and and an all dat stuff...

Molleeeeee x

[Badger]

So on a curious note what happened on the meet/figure drawing front?
And how is everyone? did i miss anything important on the OC? :perv:
-Badger-

[oOple]

Hey up, just found this place (conceptart.org) and pretty impressed with all the info on here..
Not sure if this is the right place but anyone know of any life drawing round west yorkshire area - nights or saturdays ?
I have crap discipline when i get home after a hard (!) days work, i really need to be "out" to force miself to draw..
Currently doing an A Level in art part time, its ok but not enough drawing and not enough critique.

[cas]

So on a curious note what happened on the meet/figure drawing front?

I've yet to get more info on using the studio space at the Art Academy (it's half term this week hence the delay).

However my Saturday is free so I'd be happy to meet up with everyone for some drawing/Painter.

Chris

[Badger]

oOple- welcome to the forums! we are all friendly, sometimes a little too friendly!... um...
Anyway! go check out the thunderdrome thread (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=38479&page=1&pp=60), join the nooooorrrrfff

cas- cool, yeah i understand i have a friend (http://www.hedgeart.com/) who'd love to join us. In fact if we all shout abuse at him enough he may even post. Oh i'm working till 3 on sat and might go to bristol uni open day, but if sketches are going down i'll see what i can do, sketches where? in a pub :confident prob not that productive.

So if everyone could add a bit of abuse to their post, his name is bronco.
Laterz people, back to thunderdome'ing
-Badger-

[trev]

cas: yeah I actually wouldn't mind a meet this saturday - anyone else up for it? o.O

[koshime]

there is a whistler.monet.turner exhibit at Tate Modern. shodul be very useful for fellow artists wanting to improve their painting to go visit

[Dirty C]

Yeah, it does look really good. Especially for those of you struggling to make the move from drawing to painting - seeing all that glorious colour is pretty motivating.

And I'm pretty sure it's at the Tate Britain. That one has probably the best exhibitions, actually. I'd be keen to go to that if anyone's keen.

[koshime]

sorry, you're right, Its at teh Tate britain

http://www.tate.org.uk/britain/exhibitions/turnerwhistlermonet/

hard to get hold of daily tickets though

[Dirty C]

I'm a member :)

[cas]

i'm also a member.

should we meet up at the Tate, in that case?

my girlfriends mum is staying with us this weekend, otherwise i'd invite everyone round to my house in colliers wood.

chris

[Dirty C]

Sadly, I'll be in Birmingham this weekend. But you all go ahead and meet up if you're keen - Molly and me (aka Mum and Dad) would be awfully proud if you did hehehe

[Dirty C]

and hey, if any of you are keen to meet me between angel and liverpool street before 10.25 tomorrow, you can borrow my card and get two people into everything free!

Course you're not gonna do that cause you're lazy bastards like me.

I wish I was at the pub :(

[cas]

Molly and me (aka Mum and Dad)

Cheeky bastard! :)

I've got my ticket to see the Monet/Tuener/Whistler exhibition on Sunday at 5.00. Saturday is still free.

Chris

[Dirty C]

You can just walk in if you're a member - I did it before at tate Britain.

[Schlo-mo]

Wow, what happened to my user location?!


;)