United Kingdom

[Mogster]

:< sucks, the shock is the worst part...

Stoat - erm sorry im clueless :/

hope ill make the next meet been quite buisy lately -_-!

[shipwight]

yeah man...well we will all be back after jan 5-6 although I suspect we'l only meet up by the 12th..

My dad always said, tis most dangerous around your home (because one tends to let the guard down more, due to familiarity)

[vaughany_boy]

Hey, my name's Ben, I'm a student in London. Just thought it'd be cool to say hi and get in touch with some other brits.

So, hi! If there are any meets nearby in the future, I'd be interested

[Molly]

Shit, Tie, that sucks arse big time - you called the police of course? Those little fuckers will prolly do that to someone else; bastards...

I hope you all had a wonderful Christmas and got lots of presents too, I do hope we can all meet up in the New Year, I've missed far too many meets!

Mx

[shipwight]

Tekura , its ok you missed some meets. i'm really happy for you that you are busy and in demand. for , as we are all finding out, it is far better to be busier than free, dossing about....

[plantman]

Hiya,
I am a brit! Nice to meet you sirs. Cup of Earl Grey?

Ive worked in the computer games industry for 6 years as a 3D environment artist. If anyone wants to know more about the industry I'd be happy to help.

Check out my folio of 2.5D concepts at:

www.plantman.org

I'll need some help as I am learning to paint true 2D in photoshop at the mo so will definately be back :)

I look forward to getting to know y'all *ahem* Delighted to meet your aquaintances....

[shipwight]

Hi Folks,

For our chaps/gals in London. I would like to kick start the year with renewed effort in life drawing. Therefore, what say ye to a candid arts affair on Jan 5th.

http://www.candidarts.com/candid_arts_trust.htm

Venue: Candidarts
Session: Lifedrawing with Anne Noble-Partridge
Fee: £7
Time: 7pm (best to get yourself there around 6.40pm to gurantee good seating)

[Atastrophea]

Hello!

Hope everyone had a great christmasy solsticey midwinter style festival - I feel about a million times better now the days are getting lighter again :-p

Welcome Plantman - Im trying to teach myself how to model in 3D having just done a degree in traditional style 3d stuff so I may well have about a gazillion questions for you in the near future ;)

Stoat - did you find a supplier yet? if not maybe http://www.londongraphics.co.uk/ (http://www.londongraphics.co.uk/) can help? I tend to buy materials in person rather than online though so dont know if they are any good as an online supplier.

Hope everyone is all ready for the now imminent approach of 2009 :-o

~^-^~

[vaughany_boy]

Hi Folks,

For our chaps/gals in London. I would like to kick start the year with renewed effort in life drawing. Therefore, what say ye to a candid arts affair on Jan 5th.

http://www.candidarts.com/candid_arts_trust.htm

Venue: Candidarts
Session: Lifedrawing with Anne Noble-Partridge
Fee: £7
Time: 7pm (best to get yourself there around 6.40pm to gurantee good seating)

Hey, I know I'm a newcomer to this group but I get back to London on the 4th and it'd be great to do a bit of life drawing.

Never heard of candid arts trust before. I take it this (http://www.candidarts.com/sections/whatson/life_drawing_drop_in_class.htm) is the class?

[aefx]

Hey, I know I'm a newcomer to this group but I get back to London on the 4th and it'd be great to do a bit of life drawing.

Never heard of candid arts trust before. I take it this (http://www.candidarts.com/sections/whatson/life_drawing_drop_in_class.htm) is the class?
Yeah that's the one.

[Kan Muftić]

I hope to attend the life drawing class as well and meet some of you folks.
Kind regards,
Khan

[shipwight]

See you all on the other side of the new year!

[Black Spot]

I use this one http://www.meetup.com/lifedrawingsociety/ Varied models, mainly shapely females.

[sleep]

may i be the first to say: happy new year
...:}

[Molly]

- happy new year everyone!

Mx

[shipwight]

happy new life drawing year

[wookiedabo]

happy new year. anyone go to the fireworks on the thames? twas awesome. i'd definitely go for some life drawing, its been a while.

[sketchling]

happy new year ya all! already missin nandos sessions and shipwright inspirations. Hope ya all doin v well! have a fantastic year ;) k

ps... fireworks in sydney. everyone gotta see it once! awesome!

[daveneale]

See yall at the old life drawing!...'09 will be the year of much learning and improvement, bring it on.

[shipwight]

Yeah baby! bring it on Monday!!!

[Molly]

Chee - cant make Mondays Candid Arts, visiting a friend in stasis/status - oh, that thing you do before you bury someone, and it will be a rather emotional day...

I joined meetp.com - the Life Drawing and Cartoon drawing groups (left you a message Chee). I'd like to try the burlesque drawing session when it happens, been drawing nekkid people for far too long, its about time they were clothed or sumink....

Mx

[daveneale]

Lame, just remembered I have a friends birthday tomorrow night so wont be able to make life drawing.....I'll be there next week for sure.

-D

[shipwight]

Hi tekura,

I will look up a burlesque meet then. Looks to be interesting to have so many life drawing sessions everywhere.

[vaughany_boy]

So, I'll try and find this life drawing place for about 20 to 7 then. Hope to see some of you there

[shipwight]

I'll be there today. PM if you want me number :)

[shipwight]

Well - it was a good first session of the year. Very nice model, and tutor. With many chances to network and appreciate other's work. I will be heading there again next monday.

Only thing is, this week is blooming freezin

[wookiedabo]

life drawing was great, shame I had absolutely no idea what anyone from here looks like, so couldn't say hi, but yea, model was great, and tutor friendly and helpful. I'll certainly be back next week.

[Mr Man]

Golly gosh! I should stop being a rude old hermit and say hello more often! Times flying quick these days without me even noticing.

Merry (belated) Chrimbo, new year etc folks!

Everything all good around here it seems :)

[Mogster]

give a heads up on the next meet, ive been slacking ;p

[shipwight]

Date: Monday 12th january 2009

Venue: Candidarts
Session: Lifedrawing with Anne Noble-Partridge
Fee: £7
Time: 7pm (best to get yourself there around 6.40pm to gurantee good seating)

[daveneale]

This time I will be there!...see you then.

wookiedabo: If you want to find us look for a tall guy with a short mohawk-though if it's cold you may need to look for a tall guy with a short mohawk and a hat :P

[shipwight]

I'll be the asian chinese dude with the laptop

[aefx]

Kind of hard to miss Shipwight, he's usually got two or three people around him who he's turning on to digital painting :)

[vaughany_boy]

Life drawing was good last week.

I wish I'd tried to introduce myself but I didn't want to risk going up to a stranger and saying "hi, are you from the internet" incase they had no idea what I was talking about..



I'd definately go again but I'm signed up for 3d modelling evening classes for the next 10 mondays starting tommorrow, so I can't make that :(

I'm gonna start going to that candid place on tuesday or wednesday evenings from now on though, definately got me started off on doing life drawing again.

[shipwight]

we can try to deviate onto tuesday the week after then...

[Mogster]

that would be good lol didnt see this till like way too late ;p

[shipwight]

okies. so just to reiterate.

We have another Candid arts life drawing session again today! Bring on the model!

[daveneale]

See ya there!...I'm feeling brown paper a gogo

[vaughany_boy]

we can try to deviate onto tuesday the week after then...

Yeah, a tuesday next week would be sweet :)

[aefx]

we can try to deviate onto tuesday the week after then...That would be a shame as I can't ever do Tuesdays. There may be Wednesday classes I believe.

[Black Spot]

Since the meet up has given up El Paso, not every place is as easy to get to, especially in this cold weather. How crowded does the candid art life drawing get? And does anyone know (or possibly ask) if I can bring my son (13) to it? He’s not bad, just that’s he’s only posting zombies here. Then it would be easy for you all to spot me as the fat old bird with a kid in tow.

[shipwight]

It gets pretty busy. They have started having drop in sessions on Monday to wednesdays.

We will be there next week Monday

[shipwight]

Some picces

Group Shot (http://community.imaginefx.com/forums/storage/9/165017/KSH_0400.jpg)

[Mogster]

great next week monday it is :D

[wookiedabo]

mate, tis Rupert, not Benjamin. Vaughany boy is benjamin. but no worries eh, cheers for puttin up with me.

[Atastrophea]

Life drawing was good last week.

I wish I'd tried to introduce myself but I didn't want to risk going up to a stranger and saying "hi, are you from the internet" incase they had no idea what I was talking about..



I'd definately go again but I'm signed up for 3d modelling evening classes for the next 10 mondays starting tommorrow, so I can't make that :(



I was worried about trying to spot internet people too initially, but you really shouldn't worry (Introduce yourself to Dave - he's pretty hard to miss what with being so tall and all! I tried it and it worked pretty damn well for me ;) of course, I might have to kick your ass if you try to get to know him QUITE as well as I do now though... :upset:)

Out of interest, is that the 3D Software course at LCC you're doing on Monday evenings?

~^-^~

ooh P.S.

If anyones IS up for lifedrawing on wednesday evenings that would be cool because I can make it up to London on Wednesdays/Thursdays - providing I can find somewhere to stay Wednesday nights of course :) Was meant to be doing a 3D modeling course at UH on Thursday Evenings from Feb 9th but they are not sure if they will run it due to a current lack of interest - so if anyone's interested let me know and we can press gang them into doing it! lol (no. really - It sounds like a good course, it sucks if they won't run it, I was really up for it! :( )

[Black Spot]

Seriously, could someone ask if a 13yo who has done life drawing would be welcomed? If not, I'll stick with where I go.

[vaughany_boy]

Out of interest, is that the 3D Software course at LCC you're doing on Monday evenings?


Yep, that's the one :)

Seeing as my mondays are tied up for a couple of months, my plan is to try and go to lifedrawing regularly on one of the other nights.

I'm going to the candid place tomorrow night and hopefully it'll become a regular wednesday night thing for me.


I'll try and remember to ask tomorrow what their policy is on kids and report back here :yayca:

[shipwight]

GLOBAL Game Jam

horeditch Building, 35 Kingsland Road, London E2 - - map - -

30 Jan - 1 Feb 2009

You are a developer, a student, a programmer, a designer, a thinker, an artist, a musician etc etc. Come by yourself and form a team when you arrive.

See you there for 48 hours of carnage and energy!

[Atastrophea]

Wow Ship that sounds super cool, I'm game ;) (scuse the pun lol)

VaughnyBoy Let me know if you're going next Wednesday and I'll try and make it too :) and please will you tell me how the course goes? I was looking at it and the LCC 3D animation techniques course too, may do one of them in April if they are any good...

>>>MY UH 3D MODELLING CAMPAIGN<<< (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=147287)

if you know anyone who might be interested in doing this 10week evening course please let me know as I need 6 to 8 people to enrol for them to run the course! thanks :D

~^-^~

[aefx]

GLOBAL Game Jam

horeditch Building, 35 Kingsland Road, London E2 - - map - -

30 Jan - 1 Feb 2009

You are a developer, a student, a programmer, a designer, a thinker, an artist, a musician etc etc. Come by yourself and form a team when you arrive.

See you there for 48 hours of carnage and energy!
What's this? Got a link for more info?

[vaughany_boy]

Black Spot I asked about bringing your son. She did seem surprised that someone would have done life drawing as young as 13 and said that normally she would expect to start at 15/16 years, but having said that, she was very nice and friendly and said that it comes down to how mature the individual is so, if he's done life drawing before and he's with his mum, she doesn't think there should be a problem with you taking him. Ultimately, if you think he's ok to go then it should be fine.
Hope that helps :)

Atastrophea I definately plan to go again next wednesday night so that'd be cool. The first class of the evening course at LCC was good. Very basic starting point on using the software but I'd learnt alot by the end of the session. I'll let you know how it progresses, if this one is good then I'm hoping to do the 3d Animation short course in the Summer term if I can.

That Game Jam thing sounds great fun.
This looks like the thing:
http://www.thinkmakeplay.co.uk/gamejam/
http://www.globalgamejam.org/index.html

ANyone got any idea if you have to book a place ahead of time or if you can just turn up on the day?

[Black Spot]

Thank you very much vaughany boy. If it's not freezing, we'll be there probably on Monday.

[aefx]

Can't make tonight or next week. Have fun guys.

[daveneale]

I can't make it tonight but plan to hit it another night this week-either tomorrow or Wed depending on work.

-D

[Black Spot]

I can't make it either tonight, but might manage tomorrow.

[shipwight]

okies. guess it'll be us hardcore tonight then...

[gutss]

(poking me nose in here again!) I'm meant to be starting volunteering at this place (http://www.theartorganisation.co.uk/tao%20nottingham%202.htm) soon. the people are awesome and they do lovely teas! anyone done any arty volunteering before (or considered it)? I think it offers some pretty cool opportunities.

[shipwight]

okies. for thos that didnt make it today.

There is another session tommorow evening at Candidartz, if u guys are interested.

[aph]

Lets get together some time soon everyone? =x

'llI give you cookies, or drawings of cookies.

[lefran]

London is coming up next month right? and there should be another Bristol one soon!

[shipwight]

It was good to meet u guys again tonight, so will hope to see you all next week.

Events for Next week are:


Angel Lifedrawing: Monday, 26th January 2009 6.30pm

Nandos (Firth St, SOHO) Sketchmeet: Thursday, 29th January 2009 6.30-7pm onwards. First one there, grab a nice table for four or more. Normally table 22.

[Black Spot]

I was there last night with my son, but I didn't know who to say hi to. Seriously, I don't often bite. :D

[Atastrophea]

See you at Nandos :) Seriously, I feel like such a country bumpkin will have to plan some more exciting London events soon!

~^-^~

[Quicksilver]

Jase and Fran: Yeah, I'll be arranging a London meet for next month :) How does Saturday 21st February 2009 sound? I'm trying to rope in some people who can't usually attend, like Duddlebug, but I know he's busy until 15th. I'll message a few others as well since we haven't met up in ages and it'd be nice to get a big thing going!

So 21st is the current unofficial date for now if people wanna check up on train tickets/hotel booking quotes/wiggle their way out of work. I'll give a more final decision when more people get back to me.


Peace and love, peace and love -.-v

[Mr Man]

Hello, Just wondering if anyone is going to the next Workshop in Dallas?
I am very tempted as I have some loan money hanging around. It mostly depends on how this Pound to dollar conversion goes as the tuition is $600.
I haven't checked everything thoroughly yet though so I'm not getting my hopes up just yet.

[Smarty]

Unfortunately, Texas is one of the last places on the planet I want to visit. I cna hold out till the next one or the one after till they go somewhere a bit more diverse.

[shipwight]

USD to GBP = 1.28 to 1.3

think again?

[Molly]

Nandos is a maybe, due to cash shortage; this Jan is bringing up nothing for me work wise...:(

Should be able to make the London meet, and would love to go to the Bristol meet, London is not a good place to be right now....sigh....

Mx

[Atastrophea]

swap Molly? deepest darkest countryside is driving me up the wall! actually it's nicer than upping sticks to the city and back every weekend but still :s

might not be making Nandos after all :( I'm going to go on the search for fun cheap things for us to do soon.

we went to the japan car exhibition at the science museum a few weeks ago
I thought the exhibition/cars were a bit dissapointing but maybe someone more into car design would be interested by it. the bonsais were nice and the rest of the museum has some very cool stuff, I've never been before but would go again, especially as its free :)

~^-^~

[shipwight]

fun cheap free things - bonus!

[Atastrophea]

*drumroll please?*

may I suggest:

KINETICA - Kinetic Art Fair (http://www.kinetica-museum.org/KAF09/KAF09_010908.pdf)

I've been to the Kinetica museum when it was in spittalfields and if you have any interest in animatronics/automata/robotics/electronics/stuff wot moves it is a must, so many amazing things (on a par with the science museum - lol)

Went to one of their robotic performances and its amazing what they can do.

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I think they're more powerful in "the flesh" as you can see all the tiiny bits moving and try and figure out how they work, but its a little idea of the work

Anyone up for it?

~^-^~

[shipwight]

Btw - its Chinese New Year tommorow, so I'll be heading towards the quieter Tuesday life drawing session. Have a good one

[Black Spot]

I'm going to Peckham tomorrow for life classes as its closer.

[vaughany_boy]

The kinetic fair looks cool, I'd like to check it out.

I'm planning to keep going to candid on wednesdays at the mo, but black spot; where're you going life drawing in peckham? Only curious cus that's pretty much I'm sitting right now.

And what's the deal with the nandos thing?

[Black Spot]

The Life Drawing Society (http://www.meetup.com/lifedrawingsociety/)

Wishing Well Pub (http://www.meetup.com/lifedrawingsociety/calendar/9521909/)

It's a heck of a lot easier to get to and I might be able to stay to the end - it goes on till 9.30.

[shipwight]

With the Nandos gig, we normally organise one on Thursdays, every 2-3 weeks a month.

It so happens, our (first) nandos gig is this Thursday, 29th Jan 2009.

Location: 10 Frith Street, Soho
Time: 6.30-7pm onwards.
Table: Normally at table 21 or 22

[Atastrophea]

Ok definitely coming to nandos, Dave and I were talking about celebrating chinese new year in London but I'd have to take wedenesday morning off work and it might be a bit short notice, will have to sound out the boss on that one ;)

Also whats happning with global game jam - wasn't that this weekend? anyone going? eep forget that I cant afford £25, should have read the website properly :p

~^-^~

[shipwight]

I am heading there this Fri, sat and sunday for Global game jam, as i got to know the organisers and lecturers organising the event. Will be great fun of 48 hours!!!!

[Atastrophea]

it does sound amazing ship - if I wasn't going to a gig on Friday night and trying to conserve funds I would have loved to join in :-/ I will look forward to hearing all about it and maybe there will be one next year I can do :)

[shipwight]

Shure thing, I'll try to get some piccies of the event.

[Molly]

Hey Cheeky Chee!

I'll be at Nandos Thursday too - aint seen you folks in yonks! and Chee, I do hope you have them photos of the Global Jam thing - that sounded wicked!

We should organise our own 'Jam' - get a few folks together somewhere for the weekend...

ALSO - Naomi has been asking all you folks about the London meet in Feb with no replies

- so what do you guys want to do? Where would you like to go? Center of town? North, South, East, West???
We could head into Camden town, the stable markets are a good place to draw; Theres the Hunterian museum - if none of you have been there;
The City? St Pauls? Tate Modern, V&A? Science Museum?
Wanna draw some buildings? - We could head to Canary Wharf - some fantastic corporate buildings - and theres a nandos in Jubilee place shopping mall...

C'mon folks - throw out some suggestions!

mx

[shipwight]

Well folks, if you would like our offices are situated near St Pauls. Around this area, we have the millenium bridge, tate, and on this side of the river
there is a lovely retro fi buildings above the Guildhall at the barbican/Museum of London.

[Atastrophea]

Our own game jam eh? I like it! I can be chief tea maker and errand runner ;)
put my name on the list :)

I've been meaning to go to the hunterian sketching for AGES we went to a talk ther but only had time for a quick browse of the exhibits.

Chee - are you suggesting your offices for the feb meet or the UKCA Game jam? ;)

~^-^~

[aph]

Hunterian rocks... do want. London meet anywhere is good! Go Naomiiiiiiiiiii!

[sleep]

wont be at nandos, prior engagements- count me in for any major london/bristol meet- aint seen u lot in ages...

[Kan Muftić]

See you tonight at Nandos, folks.

[Atastrophea]

See you all tonight :)

*runs off to catch train*

*runs back into house, changes out of towel and into some clothes, grabs bag....* ;)

~^-^~

[Stephen Mason]

hey guys, bin back and forth for years gona try to get involved as best i can. just a quick introduction for now. im stephen, 19 from south london, WOOP WOOP :).

Chupacabra: just looking at your work, i want to marry you. x

Speak again soon. x

[lefran]

Yup i agree- we need to be a bit more conclusive with the date for the london meet and help Naomi out!
21st Feb
is the proposed date

I need to sort cover at my job at laser quest, it should be fine, but im sure a lot of people would need to find cover as well, can we say for definate the 21st? If so then it would be a lot cheaper to start booking tickets

How about if you agreewith the 21st, thank this post or something, then everyone who can make it on that date will have their names underneath this post, like signing it sort of thing?
If not can anyone suggest any other dates?

[daveneale]

Good to see you all last night, hope we can keep the Nando's nice and regular this year.

21st sounds good to me-many thanks to Naomi for sorting it out. I'm gonna put in another Huntarian vote, but I'm good wherever we go.

-D

[shipwight]

Hunterian is good for me

[Kan Muftić]

It was really nice meeting you guys.

[Quicksilver]

Thanks for helping out, Fran! :D By popular vote, the meeting point shall be the Huntarian Museum.

I'll write up a proper notice when I have more time - have to head out now.

See you all! xxx

EDIT:
If you can make the meet then 'Thank' mine or Fran's post so I can write up a list to see how the turn out will be. Cheers~

[Molly]

******STUDIO SPACE AVAILABLE******

Our studios are based on the first floor of a large warehouse with good natural light provided by skylights. We have 24-hour access, with gates locked after nightfall and a security guard on duty. There is an industrial lift available and trolleys to help move items from the car park up to the first floor.

The space is partitioned into studios which surround a central gallery space. Each has a lockable door, but do not have ceilings. Two blower heaters, which are on timers, are suspended from the roof and provide heating during the winter months. There is a shared kitchen and toilets which are cleaned and maintained by the landlords.

I would like someone who is committed to paying and using the space. You will be sharing with me. Contract signing required.
PLEASE PM ME OR EMAIL ME DIRECT IF YOU ARE INTERESTED OR KNOW SOMEONE WHO IS. [U]COMMITTED PERSON REQUIRED PLEASE. NO TIME WASTERS.

RENT: £150 per month
Cor Blimey Arts Ltd – Deptford Studios
C101 Faircharm Trading Estate
8-12 Creekside
Deptford
London SE8 3DX


Mx

tekura.maeva@gmail.com

[Molly]

******STUDIO SPACE AVAILABLE******

Our studios are based on the first floor of a large warehouse with good natural light provided by skylights. We have 24-hour access, with gates locked after nightfall and a security guard on duty. There is an industrial lift available and trolleys to help move items from the car park up to the first floor.

The space is partitioned into studios which surround a central gallery space. Each has a lockable door, but do not have ceilings. Two blower heaters, which are on timers, are suspended from the roof and provide heating during the winter months. There is a shared kitchen and toilets which are cleaned and maintained by the landlords.

I would like someone who is committed to paying and using the space. You will be sharing with me. Contract signing required.
[B]PLEASE PM ME OR EMAIL ME DIRECT IF YOU ARE INTERESTED OR KNOW SOMEONE WHO IS. [U]COMMITTED PERSON REQUIRED PLEASE. NO TIME WASTERS.
SIZE: 250 sq ft - sharing
RENT: £150 per month
Cor Blimey Arts Ltd – Deptford Studios
C101 Faircharm Trading Estate
8-12 Creekside
Deptford
London SE8 3DX


Mx

tekura.maeva@gmail.com

[Atastrophea]

was lovely seeing everyone and meeting new people on Thursday :)

hope you find someone nice for your studio T, I wish I was in a position to rent studio, *sigh* one day....!

See you all at the hunterian, thanks Naomi.

~^-^~

[aph]

I wish Molly! I very wish.. curse you Norfolk!

ps. naomi you da bomb =)

[Bendragon]

I'll be attending the UK meet. So Im looking forward in meeting some new people :D Cant wait!!!!

[Smarty]

I'm coming. yay!

[aefx]

SIZE: 250 sq ft - sharing
RENT: £150 per month
Cor Blimey Arts Ltd – Deptford Studios
C101 Faircharm Trading Estate
8-12 Creekside
Deptford
London SE8 3DX
[/CENTER]


That's not too far from me, would be great to have a studio to work in but I don't know if I'll be in London come the end of the year :\

[Quicksilver]

London Meet
Saturday 21st February 2009, 11AM onwards.
Location: The Hunterian Museum. *Click here to view map* (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&hs=Wcc&resnum=0&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=Hunterian+Museum,+London&fb=1&split=1&gl=uk&cid=0,0,15504259200409369776&sa=X&oi=local_result&resnum=1&ct=image)

EDIT: Since the weather will most likely be cold, let's all meet INSIDE the Museum. Tekura said the Huntarian Museum is on the first floor, so everyone will need to get a Visitor's badge at reception upon entering the building.

Try and gather within sight of entering the first floor so we can spot one another, please. :) /EDIT


Closest tube stations:
Holborn
Chancery Lane


Attendees:
(Real names in brackets)

aefx (James)
daveneale (Dave)
Kian (Jon)
Quicksilver (Naomi)
lefran (Fran)
zephyri (Sam)
Bendragon (Ben)
pao (Paul)
Molly (Tekura)
Ginji (George)
_alice (Alice)
Angel Dimitrov Angelov
sleep (Sean)
Phil Barker
Smarty (Kyle)
vaughany_boy (Ben?)
Atastrophea (Mazz)
Badger (Josh)
yAdam (Adam)


Maybe:

aph (Jase)
cartoonfox (Cai)
[void] (Adam)
Kate Baylay
DannySketch (Danny)
Joe Heasman
Chupacabra

-------------------

If you want my number then please PM me (it's best to keep in touch with at least one of us in case you get lost or whatev).
See you all there! :)

~~Naomi xxx

PS: Links to this post and the FaceBook Event will be updated in my sig so it'll be easier to find.

[Molly]

That's not too far from me, would be great to have a studio to work in but I don't know if I'll be in London come the end of the year :\
- are you interested??? :)

- As long as you can give me a 1-2 month notice to when you'd need to end the contract, thats fine with me. It'll give me time to find someone else...

NAOMI - thanks for organising this Feb meet; it will be nice to meet some new faces!

Mx

[Kan Muftić]

If I summon some energy, I'll try to be there as well.

[Quicksilver]

Oh, and thanks for the thanks, guys 'n girls~ :) Will be great to see you all again and meet some new people!

~~Naomi xxx

[Shantih]

I'm definately not coming, far too poor and I daren't get a day off work right now :(

[yAdam]

I will be coming along! Looking forward to it...

[shipwight]

Pray for good weather . not like the fun flaky big snow flakes we have in centraal at the moment. Wrap up warm in the meantime, coz its going to go into Uk meltdown (with a few drops of snow/rain)

[lefran]

Badger should be coming!

[aph]

Atack!! haha

[Mon Chat]

shan't be attending, im too far away, woe :(

[lefran]

well theres gonna be a bristol one after the london one hopefully, can come see your woman then

[Smarty]

ha, I'm Kyle Tobias Smart from that definately list. Unless their is another Smarty who might be coming?

[Quicksilver]

Ahah, thanks Smarty :) I don't know everyone's names and usernames yet, except the oldies! I'll edit the main post now.

[aefx]

SNOW!!!!

I woke up this morning in South London and there's like 6-8 inches of snow on the ground! No trains, buses, taxis... only the tube is running. It's like a winter wonderland out there.

At anyrate, Molly: In that case yes I'm most definitely interested as I've been wanting to get a studio for a while. I don't anticipate moving til later in the year if at all and I can give a couple months notice if I do. I'll pm you my mobile #. Cheers.

[Black Spot]

Woot! Snow. It's great. I can't get to work or the stocktaking I was supposed to go to. The whole family is stuck and I have more time for TD. Last time we had snow like this was 18 years ago when I got married.

[Bones Weep Tedium]

There's no stinking snow in Bristol.

We need a stinking sketch meet to make up for it.

As a newbie, I don't feel empowered to call for a sketch meet on my own, my Badger could endorse my demands??

......please??

[Quicksilver]

:D SNOOOOOOWWW!!!!! :D It never snows in Bournemouth! Wheeee~~

[Crush]

Aww man I wish I could make the meet! Sadly I won't be able to make any in the near future as I'm no longer living in the UK (not that any of you will miss me particularly :P)

[lefran]

bones weep tedium- there is snow! look outside now! theres a small flutter

[Bones Weep Tedium]

bones weep tedium- there is snow! look outside now! theres a small flutter

Harumph!

Thanks for the effort, lefran, but I am afraid that meager effort does not even qualify as a dusting, let alone a flurry.

What I want is a blizzard. A blizzard that snows me in so I don't have to go to work all week.

[vaughany_boy]

Also in about over a foot of south east london snow!

Madness!

[Atastrophea]

trapped in London. with a boyfiend that thinks making his (smaller, unable to run-away fast enough) girlfriend eat snow is an acceptable passtime.... :'( and my winter coat and sledge are back in the Shire...... dammnit >:-/

[aefx]

(smaller, unable to run-away fast enough) ... back in the Shire.....
Hobbits? :xpld:

[lefran]

bones weep tedium- im gonna arrange a bristol meet in the near future after the london meet

[plantman]

woah! Ive just looked up the huntarian and theres so much cool anatomy stuff! I really hope I can make it- it sounds like a fun day out - just got alot on at the moment. Will try

[Bones Weep Tedium]

bones weep tedium- im gonna arrange a bristol meet in the near future after the london meet

Good job! I am really looking forward to finally attending one. ;)

[Mon Chat]

bristol meet sounds wonderful. i'll probably be up before then anyway. snow on the beach guys! SNOW ON THE BLOODY BEAAAAAACH! how cool is that.
to be fair it was like summer this morning. WOW

[pao]

yeaaa, cool, thx for organize it : }

[Molly]

Vaughny_Boy & Aefx - you guys going to Candid Arts tonight?
I fancy getting back into this life drawing thang ev'ryones doing...
See ya later!

mx

[Molly]

yeaaa, cool, thx for organize it : }


your website is so cool....Love your work man!

[Stew9]

Really wish I could make this, I don't think I ever heard of the Hunterian Museum till now.

[Ken S]

I might be able to make this. I want to improve my work first so i feel less intimidated by all the crazy talent. So i may have to wait for the next london meet...

[lefran]

Ken S, i wouldnt worry, if you take a look at the start of my sketchbook and see how bad i was in comparison to how much ive improved now, that was when i started going to meets, no one judges, in fact its a big help having people to help, its as much about socialising as drawing, i end up socialising more if im honest!

[aefx]

Vaughny_Boy & Aefx - you guys going to Candid Arts tonight?
I fancy getting back into this life drawing thang ev'ryones doing...
See ya later!

mxI completely forgot, this week has me all messed up. However I said I'd go so I will, I need the practice :)

[vaughany_boy]

Vaughny_Boy & Aefx - you guys going to Candid Arts tonight?
I fancy getting back into this life drawing thang ev'ryones doing...
See ya later!

mx

Yep, I'll be there

[Alex Kaiser]

Hey guys things keep popping up but going to try make that meet on the 21st feb!!!! and say hello to everyone!

[Vehkt]

Being English (though I live in Finland), I thought i'd just enquire what you actually DO at a sketch meet. Well, yes, sketch I guess :P But... what?

I might be compelled to sort one for the Helsinki area folk in the future, but I guess a knowledge of what occurs would be handy :P.

[wookiedabo]

london sketch meet sounds great, count me in.

[lefran]

well at ours, we generally go to museums and stuff to start, and draw etc, then usually go somewhere to eat , socialise and draw- its just nice being with fellow artists etc, can see their work, its a creative and inspiring atmosphere, i mostly enjoy seeing friends i rarely get to see

[Vehkt]

I guess my first step would be finding the decent museums nearby then :D
Thankies!

[shipwight]

Cheap and Breezy:

South kensington

1/ Natural History Museum
2/ Science Museum
3/ V&A

Holborn

1/ British Museum

Trafalgar Square

1/ National Portrait Museum

Leicester Square

1/ Royal Academy of Arts

[sleep]

um shipwight if that was directed at vehkt then i think he was talking about museums in helsinki....

[Molly]

- sorry guys for not turning up at Candid on weds - sore foot! lame, I know...

Aaaand congratulations to aefx! he is now, my new studio buddy!...

Hope all you folk are well!

Mx

[tehmeh]

hope you guys don't mind two local art undergrads joining you all! We looking forward to meeting everyone

[shipwight]

More life drawing today for those interested

CandidArts
Date: 9th Feb
Time 6.30pm

[aefx]

More life drawing today for those interested

CandidArts
Date: 9th Feb
Time 6.30pm

I think I'm gonna go on Wednesday this week as there was a lot less people there last Wednesday... plus I didn't get much sleep last night and I'm shattered today.

On another note, really excited about having a space to paint in at last, thanks Molly!!

[shipwight]

No worries james! Will see you on wednesday if i'm feeling masochistic

[daveneale]

Can't make it esta noche cause of work-will probably skoot along tomorrow or Wed.

[Molly]

..Is it me, or is the idea for the new 'Angel of the South' pretty lame?

A fucking white horse. A nicely, sculpted, pretty rendered, horse.
A large scale model horse, like a collectable piece you buy from a Sunday magazine.

The Angel of the North, is stunning in its design and the materials used.
The South one, is just rubbish....


tut

[shipwight]

should have built a giant cow....mooooly

[Rob!T]

This sounds great, I think I'll come too, I'm in Bristol for a uni Interview the day before so perhaps I could meet up with the people heading out of Bristol in the morning? If you are getting a train that is.. let me know :)

[Smarty]

good idea. I think Fran has sorted our train out, I think it leaves 830 ish? I'm sure you'll get to take your pic if you need to stay over.

good luck with your interview

[lefran]

Indeed , we are leaving on the 8:30 train from Temple Meads, to paddington, good luck with your interview

[Rob!T]

Thanks guys, my brother does engineering at Bristol, so I think I am set for a place to stay, but I don't have anything to do for the whole afternoon/evening on the 20th, don't suppose you guys will be doing anything? If not I'll just brave it with my brothers housemates (he's not going to be there :S)

Also, could I grab a phone number off of someone please? :)

[lefran]

sure ill pm you my number now,
which bit of bristol is he living at?
we can all go to the pub or something if you like?

[Rob!T]

Cheers Fran. He lives on constitution hill, just west of Cabot tower (on top of that big mound) you probably live down by st Augustine's parade right? which isn't too far away..

and yeah, we should definitely do that, looking forward to it.

[lefran]

We live on rupert st, which is right in broadmead, theres a pub we like called the king william on king street, which is just off the bottom of park street really, by the river front, which isnt too far, give us a txt or something

[Rob!T]

gotcha. see you all then.

[Molly]

oooh - I wana live in Bristol now...

Chee - a giant cow would be cool, if it had a giant, smelly cow pat beneath...

[Ghostbrush]

Hello! never even knew this thread existed! i am from the UK, Cheshire. Anyone in the area? would be great to chill with some like minded people.

:)

Alex

[Molly]

Ghostbrush - welcome! BTW - Im having trouble viewing your website. Esp the photoshop section...actually, just checked again the other sections with images doesnt load.... Mx

[Ghostbrush]

Mmmmm just checked myself and its all working for me, dunno what to suggest, will see if it works on the other computer.

Eeeeek i need to update the work on there, got loads more that i have not got round too for one reason or another.

[Ghostbrush]

hey sorry, does this link work

http://s623.photobucket.com/albums/tt311/AlexHeath/

Its kinda my portfolio work, 15 most recent bits and pieces

[Molly]

aaaah - the dreaded Photofucket! Try not to use them as they will start to delete any work you've done that contains nudity. Trust me, they deleted 3 years of work because they were 'life drawings' that contain nudity. I emailed every department, complaining at how shit they were...

The images do not load for me. I'm on a PC using Firefox...

BTW - Love the sculptures!!!

Mollykins

[Ghostbrush]

wait so the images on the photofucket dont load for? that is bad news for me
really bad

[Ghostbrush]

Thank you Btw, I am rather pleased with my sculptures :)

[Bones Weep Tedium]

We live on rupert st, which is right in broadmead, theres a pub we like called the king william on king street, which is just off the bottom of park street really, by the river front, which isnt too far, give us a txt or something

I used to work at the King William, it's a cool little pub.

Is this a sketch meet or a private session?

[lefran]

nah, lets just say get whoever there for a sketch meet, if we can get a table

[Macaruba]

Hi

Can anyone tell me if there are any CA events in the UK?


www.macaruba.com (http://www.macaruba.com)

[Smarty]

London, 21st Feb. 11am hunterian museum :D

[Molly]

Hi

Can anyone tell me if there are any CA events in the UK?


www.macaruba.com (http://www.macaruba.com)

Nope, and not for a looong time. Due to the exchange rate and its just too damn expensive here. After chatting to Android a while back, its not a place he'd like to visit again, which is a shame....

Mollykins

[Platonist]

Hallo!

Im from the Uk, alternately in Leeds (most of the time) and Derbyshire.
Sorely outta practice and an amateurish bookworm at best but thats why I joined CA.
Anyone about?

[Macaruba]

Hi Smarty

What's the Hunterian Museum day all about?
Is this a regular meeting place?
Who's gonna be their?
What happens there normally?
Is it a workshop or a social group?



Cheers
Macaruba
628904 (http://www.macaruba.com)

[aph]

Welcome Platonist =)

Macaruba:

Facebook Group Info (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=31947752960)

or

Same info on CA (http://conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2110086&postcount=8602)

Questions in order :
Museum of weird stuff, not regular, people listed, drawing/talking/drinking/eating/socialising, social

[Quicksilver]

Cheers, Jase. :)

See you all soon~!!

[sleep]

What's the Hunterian Museum day all about?
Is this a regular meeting place?
Who's gonna be their?
What happens there normally?
Is it a workshop or a social group?


- sketch, socialise, learn, eat drink and be merry. hunterian museum is known for a collection of weird deformed skulls and foetuses in jars
- no, the meetings vary in location, most commonly in london but have been in cardiff, bristol, etc etc....
- mixed bag. but we havent had one in a while so we can expect a few people, rough list of attendees on facebook
- as above. its socializing and drawing usually
- social group- anyones invited. some of us have known eachother for years, others only appeared recently.

hope to see u there

[shipwight]

Life drawing at Angle tomorrow anyone?

[alyssa milano]

may i join you guys on saturday?
not sure i`ll be super on time cause i`ll be coming from camb but will definitly try:)

[daveneale]

Greetings Alyssa-yeah the more the merrier

-Was at LD last night, was just one of the usual models though the dude who was taking it was quite good at giving pointers-have fun

[pao]

may i join you guys on saturday?
not sure i`ll be super on time cause i`ll be coming from camb but will definitly try:)

hehe, cool to hear that man, cya in sathurday !

[shipwight]

Ah no worries. will catch u guys next week then

[Ezidof]

I shall hopefully be there too with my best girl mate Alyssa.

[alyssa milano]

i`m not a girl you trans bastard

[Ezidof]

it must be the glare from your wacom then...

Is there any AIB peeps going? nice to see how its going there these days..

[DannySketch]

3 days to go until we are all snuggly sat behind pickled animals scribbling away.

Which reminds me, is anyone bringing foody treats?:)

[lefran]

like what harries? lol
It was just naomi that brought Banh Bao, but that was when she was living at home

[Bendragon]

Hey Mark, me and a few guys from the AIB are coming along!
Looking forward to it. See you all soon!

[Black Spot]

I'm coming too and bringing my son as well.

[Atastrophea]

wow, the hunterian won't know what's hit it! ;)

Has the UK group ever done "subway sketching" Bobby Chiu style?

~^-^~

[Quicksilver]

Aahhhh the days of banh bao.....hehehe. 'fraid I can't treat everyone to them anymore as my mum used to make them for us.

Subway Sketching, eh? Nope, but it sounds interesting! So what, we all go to a tube station, sit down and draw?? I know you can't do things like charge people for portraits unless you have licence for it.

[aefx]

Subway sketching would be fun although you'd probably have to do it at a train station instead of the underground... also you'd have to be mindful of being confused with terrorists:S

[hurricane]

see you wonderful people on Saturday!

[Rob!T]

The Bobby Chiu sketch group just catches the same subway train back and forth. simple.

[Smarty]

Hurri, awesome, glad you can make it.

[Quicksilver]

Awesome to hear you can make it, hurri! :D

Mind if we check out this shop after the museum or something?

http://falkiners.com/

You don't have to - I could always pop there and meet you guys later. Just that I had a bookbinding workshop today and am now inspired to buy some tools so I can make more at home. :)

~~Naomi xxx

[DannySketch]

We (the bristol illustration lot) have got a book binding module at the moment so it would fit in well there!

Hurri, it'll be awesome to meet you.

[Kan Muftić]

See you saturday, fellaz!

[Macaruba]

I'm not gonna be able to make it this Saturday at The Huntarian.
I do hope to get to together another time though.

Where is the best place to find out about these events?

Cheers
Macaruba
598166 (http://www.macaruba.com)

[Smarty]

right here :D

cool chupa, your stuff rocks.

[lefran]

Rob!T- just realised it was tonight you were gonna be here, ive been out since 8 and i left my phone at home, and im in work til 9 so i dont know if youve txt or anything, but i wouldnt have been able to see it

[Rob!T]

No problem, yeah I'm in Bristol, are you planning on going out then? If not then don't worry :)

[lefran]

not now sorry dude, im shattered need to shower and get some stuff to go to london tomorrw, but i can give you kyle or dans number they might be going out i dont know

[Rob!T]

nah don't worry about it. C u tomorrow morning

[lefran]

Ah sure, are you getting the train with us?

[Rob!T]

yup, I'll be at the train station, on time hopefully.

[Crush]

Just wanted to stop by and say that I hope everyone has a good time tomorrow!

Wish I could be there with you all... :(

Not that anyone will really miss me particularly though :P

[lefran]

Ok, well if you see this before you go rob, we're leaving our flat at about 7:45, so will be there by about 5 past 8, and the train goes at 8:30, just to make sure you get the right one!

[lefran]

Also, atastrophea is going to meet us in paddington at about 10:40, so if anyone else is coming in at that point, then my number is 07794770719 then give me a ring/txt and we'll meet you there

[hurricane]

thanks to everyone at the meet, we 3 had a great time hanging out with you all! Until next time, be safe!

[Black Spot]

Great to meet you guys. Looking forward to the next time.

[Badger]

Pictures! I wants too see pictures!

[Quicksilver]

I hardly took any :/ But will upload the blurry ones I did take! I think Fran took some pics.

It was an awesome meet and so great to meet loadsa new people.

Until next time, folks~ ;)

EDIT:
Here are the pics I took. It's a public link so it should work for everyone, but if it doesn't then let me know.
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=219541&id=532505466&l=95022

[Bendragon]

Thanks Naomi, now everyone can see me pulling weird faces!
Was great meeting you all. Kinda wish I had more time to chat to more of all of you. Same time next week :P ?

[pao]

yeaa, thx to naomi and all for organize it : )

[plantman]

Indeed, it was a fun if intense day of drawing :) It was great to chat to people understand the unique pleasures, and pains of freelancing, art etc.

I want to say a sincere thanks to Ben Neill (and girlfriend> sorry I didnt get your name!!!) and Alex and MTompkins.

After the pub I went back and drew some twisted calf feotus skeleton and met a very sassy Spanish textiles student who was apparently there on her own initiative. I then photgraphed the entire museum.

A great day out of my cage and hope to spend some quality time with more of you soon. :)

[Kan Muftić]

hey guys, it was lovely meeting you all, we should do this more often.
sry for not coming to iguanas afterwards, got bit tired and went home.
love,
Khan

[Smarty]

Great to put names to faces guys, definately up for another... Me n fran were looking through the photos on the way home, theirs lots of good ones of everyone :D

[lefran]

indeedy, so ill upload pics to my computer late- i took quite a lot
so i'll edit them and put them in a picture blog or something then link it here tonight or tomorrow

[Badger]

Oki then bristol folk, who's up for meet on wednesday?

[DannySketch]

I say aye,

lovely meeting everyone, want a talented bunch of people the UK lot are.

[lefran]

indeed a good plan

[Ginji]

Was good to meet soo many new people and see so many inspiring sketchbooks

Looking forwards to the next one.

Here's some of the colabs from the back of my books

[lefran]

i take credit for the bat and ball and the fabric patterns! :)

Heres a blog with all the pics i took in> www.calondonpics.blogspot.com

and here's the link to the pics in the facebook group> http://www.facebook.com/photo_search.php?oid=52250082740&view=all#/event.php?eid=52250082740

Sorry if i missed some people out, and a lot are blurry because i didnt use the flash and my hand wasnt always steady, but i hope you like!

[hurricane]

thank you lefran, great photos

[Molly]

Yes - thanks Naomi for pulling us together this weekend!

It was great to meet new people and finally put names to faces, even tho, I've met a few of you guys already and forgot!

Next time, we'll hire the back room of the Hunterian, get them to get some skulls out and we'll do some hard-core sketching...
Also, we'll go to the Grant Museum of Zoology, lots of animal skeletons there!!!

Mollykins

[Macaruba]

Where are you posting your lovely Hunterian sketches?

[lefran]

I guess in your sketchbook, then put a link to the single post here?

[Smarty]

yer my sketchbook has a few pages from the day. - http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2143170&postcount=122

[alice_]

thanks naomi for organising and thanks to everyone else for turning up!

[Rob!T]

Thanks for organizing the meet Naomi, and thanks to everyone I talked to, hope to see all you Bristol guys next year.

and sorry for leaving Fran hanging in the morning :(

also, that cat owns every sketch from the whole day.

[lefran]

np, just glad you were better

[lefran]

Collab between me, alice, jase, george, kyle and Dan

[Quicksilver]

Thanks for all the thankses(?!) everyone! :bashful: They're much appreciated~

Now to save up so I can afford another one lol.

[Molly]

Hello All,

There is a new studio space available at CorBlimeyArts (where James and I have ours) if anyone is interested, please contact me or:

For further information please contact:
Gillian Best Powell
Trustee
Cor Blimey Arts Ltd – Deptford Studios
C101 Faircharm Trading Estate
8-12 Creekside
Deptford
London SE8 3DX

Tel: 0208 691 1201
Mob: 0798 656 4926
Email: gillianbp@hotmail.com

[shipwight]

Tommorow, we will be spending a good portion of the day doing research/sketching and drawing at the V&A, Natural History museum and Science museum. Feel free to join in if you wish.

However, the area around the Natural History museum may be a bit more busy than normal due to London fashion week. be warned!

[MarkDN]

Hey peeps.

Really sorry for being so unsociable on Saturday - I was the bearded guy who sat sketching the 'Irish Giant' and 'Mr jeffs' for a couple of hours, only speaking briefly to a couple of people (nice to meet you Blackspot, Quicksilver, erm... David and... arh!), then had to leave before lunch.

Here's the sketch from Saturday at the Hunterian. 7'7" Charles Byrne and the peculiarly deformed Mr Jeffs.

The other sketches are from the V&A, done on Sunday and the thursday before last respectively.

[Alex Kaiser]

Hey everyone just like to say great to meet you all last sat! Was good fun! Motivated now to get out, sketch more, see more crazy museums and check out forbidden planet (I think that's what is was called) Does anyone have directions to it by the way?

Also what days do you guys go to the candid arts life drawing generally?

Cool sketches mark! and plantman those are awesome environments! (are they 3d max and with painting? just painting or just 3d max?)

[shipwight]

Candid Arts - Mon to Wednesday evenings

[MarkDN]

Alex - probably the easiest way to get to forbidden planet is to go to Covent Garden and head straight up Neal St. Once you reach the end of the road you should see it directly in front of you, on the other side of Shaftsbury Avenue. Alternatively, Totenham Court Road is slightly closer but, unless you know London, a bit more complicated to navigate from.

179 Shaftesbury Ave
WC2H 8JR

http://streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=530042&y=181251&z=0&sv=WC2H+8JR&st=2&pc=WC2H+8JR&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf

[Molly]

Mark - niiiiice sketching!!! Sorry I missed you then, I arrived very late...

Anyone Candid Arting it tonight? I shall be there, need to get back into the swing of things, been too long...

TMx

[MarkDN]

Molly - aw, I had to get back to the studio to meet someone in the afternoon. But hey! Grant museum? I've never been there before so I'm looking forward to it.

[Molly]

If anyone is in London check out the Grant Museum of Zoology in UCL. (http://www.ucl.ac.uk/museums/zoology/) MarkDN and I spent the afternoon there, its pretty cool.

Its amazing! Its like the Hunterian, but much smaller, and you can have physical access to specimens. I drew a Warthog skull today and was able to get it out of the cabinet and touch it. They have hippopotumus skulls, rhino skeletons, full monkey & gorilla skeletons, and lots of dead things in jars! Only thing, its not a great place for a Meet, too small - but very intimate...
Mx

[lefran]

Bristol Meet
Saturday 25th April

Anyone interested?
(just a rough date btw)

If your interested in this date then thank the post- easy way to see who is and who isnt

[Smarty]

Fran you know people from UWE probs won't be here on that date?

[Quicksilver]

Doubt I'll be able to make it - don't even know if I'll be visiting home during Easter yet! If I decide to then I'll pop by Bristol if it's during the hols, otherwise I just don't have the money to do anything fun now. :sadcheerleader:

[lefran]

why not is it easter hols?
didnt realise as i'm not going anywhere

i'll change it to another date, any ideas?

[Smarty]

the week after? so its the tail end of the hols.. so peolpe can still be off to come if they want but us UWE'ers can come home a couple of days early for it. Make sense?

[lefran]

yup ok

[lefran]

ok ive changed the date, thank the post if your interested in that date?