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[Dirty C]

BTW, I've been unable to cdhange my avatar or any of my preferences for ages, so that'll be Cody or someone screwing with my settings again. I reckon, apparently.

[Mon Chat]

HI! i met the sketchling today at the mac expo. he's my new hero :) thankyou to him!

[sketchling]

hahaha... got here first did ya. (backstory) Yeah, I took over the new 13" cineque display for a while at the mac expo... was a lot of fun, so thanks for lettin me take over! Ill send ya those links I was on about.

http://del.icio.us/sketchling
has most of them anyways.

I went over to the Wacom desk a while later and took over the 21 Inch for half an hour... man, I HAVE to have one. its so damn cool its scary... I might get into demoing them for a laugh :D Just love the things. Wacom is my favorite word.

Dirty C : Im afraid im not gonna be making seattle... Colour of Magic finishes 2 weeks after or so and Kylie goes back on world-tour couple a days after it starts. Double whammy of I dont think so. :(

P.S. Get a DS. Now with mini wacom potential :D

[lefran]

sketchling- thats the film your working on?! im just reading that book now, and ive been thinking the whole time, they should make a film of this lol!
I knew you were working on pratchett but i just didnt know which one!
awesome! cant wait!

[Mon Chat]

sketchling: thats fantastic :D thankyou very much, im now really thinking about getting a DS haha, that painter program was very funny. :), as payment for working at that stand I being given an ipod touch... im just trying to see if its pressure sensitive hahaha

gaahhh i want that wacom back... it was so good... *dribble*

[sketchling]

...given an ipod touch... awesome! Im wondering if I can demo for wacom until they give me a cinteque... it could hapen... itcouldhappenitcouldhappenitcouldhappenitcouldhapp enitcouldhappenitcouldhappenitcouldhappenitcouldha ppenitcouldhappenitcouldhappenitcouldhappenitcould happenitcouldhappenitcouldhappenitcouldhappenitcou ldhappenitcouldhappen

ya never know!

[Molly]

hahaha - Kim, thats pretty cool idea man, go hound WACOM down till they give in...:)

[Molly]

OK, if you live in London, this may appeal to you.... PM me if you wanna go I'll arrange a place for us all to meet- its free entry:)

SOUL to SOLE* ~ a night of customized kicks, unique to the core.
Tagline: The-RandomOne & PIMP my SOUL* are proud to present...
Host: the-randomone.com
Music/Arts - Exhibit
Tuesday, November 6, CANCELLED
Location: The Gallery, Soho
125 Charing Cross Rd URL="http://www.viewlondon.co.uk/pubsandbars/the-royal-george-info-13240.html"]
THIS EVENT HAS BEEN CANCELLED

[koshime]

Kim gets some exposure this month

Interview with Kim Taylor
(http://www.cgpad.org/forum/interview-kim-taylor-t297.html?p=2737#post2737)

[aefx]

I need advice from anyone in the south east(mostly London area).

I'm 27 and would like to start taking art classes and hopefully persue an art degree of some sort. Does anyone else have experience of enrolling in a school a bit later on in life and where to start? I don't have a portfolio and I grew up in the states so I have no clue which Unis are decent for art in my area. I'm particularly interested in Industrial Design but ultimately this is mostly just for personal benefit as I'm already sorted out career wise.

I did some looking at the Royal Art Academy, St. Martins, etc... look nice but I get the impression you need to have good grades/great portfolio?

[Molly]

I need advice from anyone in the south east(mostly London area).

I'm 27 and would like to start taking art classes and hopefully persue an art degree of some sort. Does anyone else have experience of enrolling in a school a bit later on in life and where to start? I don't have a portfolio and I grew up in the states so I have no clue which Unis are decent for art in my area. I'm particularly interested in Industrial Design but ultimately this is mostly just for personal benefit as I'm already sorted out career wise.

I did some looking at the Royal Art Academy, St. Martins, etc... look nice but I get the impression you need to have good grades/great portfolio?

Many schools in London may require a portfolio. I'm not sure what schools do Industrial Design in London, from my knowledge, none. Regards to evening classes, you may not need a portfolio, just enthusiasm.
Theres also these schools, but they are mainly fine art:
Slade School of Art - Holborn, C.London
The Princes Drawing School - Old Street - year long drawing course to accompany ones own progress...
Lavender Hill Studios - S. London
London College of Printing - Elephant&Castle - not too sure about this place..
The Art Acdemy- London Bridge - expensive, evening classes are ok

some sites that may help further:
http://www.artschools.com/cities/london-art-schools-colleges.html
http://www.saatchi-gallery.co.uk/london_art_schools.htm

Hope this helps treacle

[Mon Chat]

what do you guys do at these meets? :) art discussioning?

[Aardvarkphil]

Yeah, I was kinda wondering that myself. What kind of strange ritualistic practices occur at these 'meets'?

[lefran]

Hey guys- go check out the Girls thunderdome thread!
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=109651
Couple of Brits involved

Some awesome entries!

[Molly]

Folks - whos coming Tues? your all welcome, it should be a really cool night!
Its not really a meet - if you guys are refering to my post - its an exhibit of artists who design trainers....
Check the FF section for the girls TD - NOW!
mx

[aph]

If I was back home I would be well up for it. Damn, Uni-fication.

Who is coming to Seattle?

[Mon Chat]

Just got back from norwich arts institute... "foundation computer games art and design" IT WAS AWEFULL. Im a verrrry cross bunny. they had no recent work, and the quality of the concept work was PITIFUL. They had no art theory to speak of, and no one seemed to have any pride in their work. sketches were done on lined paper and scraps.
(aph where was your sketchbook!? you seem miles ahead of anything I saw!!)
Im angry angry angry.

the end.

on the other hand, all the other colleges, institutes and universitys i have looked at have been fantastic, particularly foundation at falmouth. (illustration was jaw dropping.)

[Molly]

Aefx - the Pimp-my-Sole events been cancelled!!!! I got a message today through Facebook - Im so disappointed! :( I emailed the event organser asking why, so hopefully he'll get back to me....

[Molly]

- HAPPY GUY FAWKES TONIGHT FOLKS!!! have a gooden!!!

[Mon Chat]

Its the third... but who am I to comment. WOOOOOO! happy Guyfawkesss!

[aefx]

Aefx - the Pimp-my-Sole events been cancelled!!!! I got a message today through Facebook - Im so disappointed! :( I emailed the event organser asking why, so hopefully he'll get back to me....Ah, that's a shame. Thanks for the update though.

[Mr Man]

Fuuuuck, the Workshop instructor list is getting god damn crazy!!! :(

[Badger]

Yeah i'm really considering it... I blame captain rugged for the encouragment.
Who's thinking of going?
-B-

[[void]]

Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

And to a lesser extent cai.

[Molly]

..Im considering....if I can raise the air fair, then yeah!

[Kian]

if anyone can fit me in their suitcase, [im only 5"7] ill go!

[lefran]

how much would it cost all together out of intrest?

[Aardvarkphil]

I'm going. It will be nice to meet up with some of you Brit artists finally.

In answer to your question Lefran.
Tuition £300
Air fare £350 to £450
Room £30 per night
And then there is the spending money.....

Just rough figures but something to think on.

Cheers Phil.

[aefx]

Where did you see flights for 350 to 450? The best I can find so far is 500.

I'm going. It will be nice to meet up with some of you Brit artists finally.

In answer to your question Lefran.
Tuition £300
Air fare £350 to £450
Room £30 per night
And then there is the spending money.....

Just rough figures but something to think on.

Cheers Phil.

[Aardvarkphil]

it's all a matter of how many stops, the more stops the cheaper it gets.Also the longer it takes(about 20 hours was the longest I found)

Also what day you fly. This applies both ways.

I'm flying on the 1st Jan with BA direct. It takes about 10 hours and costs £450.

But there were other options some of which actually went via Amsterdam and a stop on the eastern seaboard of the states.

Also the closer we get the more it will cost.

cheers Phil


Just found this link travelling on 3jan return 8Jan £400 www.cheapflights.co.uk/flights/

just type 'London to Seattle' into google and start checking out the sites

hope this helps.

[Mon Chat]

gahhhh, I would love to go. but im not going to. so thats the end of that. one day maybe. how long does it go on for?

[koshime]

Hi folks.

Am arranging a small meet on Thursday - central london. Feel free to contact/PM me if you want to hang out/sketch.

[sketchling]

haha... just remembered I was supposed to post that. Nandos soho from seven or so :) (its just easy to go there ok...ok?! haha)

[Molly]

See you fellas there!
mx

[aefx]

Mmm Nandos :madchef:

[sketchling]

Ello :) Just posted this somewhere ad figured it might be useful here. The old anatomy book debate :D Also I have a few books im throwin out so shout if ya want em. (I have only so much room on my bookshelf and I have ian mccaig's shadowline coming....)

anyways, here it is:
I have bought so many life drawing books and tried so many different methods of drawing the figure, but it was only Vilppu that really taught me what I needed to know. The others contained great knowledge, but they did not TEACH you well. The first few chapters of vlippu are utterly indespensible. Once I had a grip of form like he preaches, all my other books are becoming useful. You cant learn anatomy till your brain can break things down to simple chunky forms that will actually stick in your memory.

But anyways, the best books and resources on drawing the human figure for me would have to be

1) Vlippu drawing manual (fantastic start to get strong basics..the exercises really WORK)

2) Bridgeman - Brillliant to make you understand chunky forms and hard-soft edges. Some of the most beautiful drawing in an anatomy book iv seen.

3) drawing force - http://www.drawingforce.com/ AWESOME for understanding what gives figures life and energy. His video's are great.

4) Figure Drawing Without A Model -Rod Tiner
This book is an excellent book as it covers a hell of a lot that iv not seen anywhere else such as how fat changes the face with age and how different body types tend to have certain facial features and other tid bits. Also it talks about strategies to train your brain to draw from the imagination. Defiinitly one of the best books iv ever seen
Amazon
AmazonAmazon

I dont advise Buying the hogarth book... His stuff is very rounded all the time and rather odd. Good for understanding volume, but he only does spherical volume, and seldom hard, cube volume like bridgeman and the others. Go for bridgeman rather. That said, there are a few useful shortcut tips that i have seen in there... just not as good as the rest.

Hope those help. If anyone wants
how to draw comics the marvel way
how to pencil comics the marvel way
Manga mecha books
cartooning books
Shout. Im chucking them out cause iv got better ones and I hate the marvel production-line look.

[DavidCousens]

You're absolutely right, Kim; Force is an excellent book, (I had to review it for Advanced Photoshop magazine recently) it really opens your eyes to thinking about WHY we move the way we do I'm going to have a look for that Villipu drawing manual now that you've recommended it, thanks for that. I'd be curious about the "Pencil comics the marvel way" book and maybe the Manga mecha books as I'm expanding my library somewhat at the moment--artbooks are my new hobby.

Maybe we could start up a UK book exchange as I have "Photoshop for Video", "Adobe Photoshop layers", "The Painter 8 wow book" and "500 Manga characters" which I'd be happy to send to new homes if anyone's interested?

[sketchling]

500 manga characters could be cool. :)

[lefran]

My college is having a trip to London on the Wed 12th December, so i'll be there from before lunch to later afternoon i'd imagine if anyone would be around that time?

[DavidCousens]

500 manga characters could be cool. :)

It could be, but it isn't! It's really aimed for younger artists, as a lot of the art is...somewhat lacking. Still, if you want it mate, just let me know and it's yours! :) The other books are okay though

[daveneale]

Vlippu drawing manual (fantastic start to get strong basics..the exercises really WORK)

I'm after more anatomy stuff, I printed out the Loomis stuff from a pdf (I can look as a computer screen when Im drawing for 16hrs a day, but 5 mins trying to read text on a screen and I get a huuuge headache)....have you looked at the loomis stuff....and if so how do they compare?

[sketchling]

Bridgeman's the best anatomy book iv come across. I can see from yer sketchbook you already got a good head for form, so I see where yer coming from.

Anyways, Good to see a bunch of ya at the impromptu meet last night. :)
My colourwheel - swatches are available now here:

http://www.sketchling.com/sketchlings_swatchwheel.aco

Hope people find them useful. Remember that for it to form an actual colour wheel it has to REPLACE any existing swatches so save any you want to keep, replace them with mine and then append your old ones after. The wheel breaks if the first block is not in the first position in the swatches.

[daveneale]

Nice, I think I shall invest in some Bridgeman, I keep hearing good things...I need to dedicate more time to the anatomy malarkie though, appart from life drawing I've been very lazy with it lately

[Bones Weep Tedium]

Bridgeman's the best anatomy book iv come across.

I bought the Bridgeman book after reccommendations in this thread (it may well have been yours, sketchling) and I am curious how everyone uses it.


Do you read through it and then set it aside, letting it influence your life drawing studies?

Do you go through it systmeatically copying the illustrations, trying to memorize the content?

Do you just keep it open on your desk and constantly refer back to it whenever you're working?


:xpld:

Is it realistic to hope that one day you'll be able to draw perfect poses from your imagination, or is this book just part of a range of reference material that an artist has to become familiar with, but eventually come back to time and again?

[aefx]

It was nice meeting everyone again last night. Many thanks to Sketchling, Molly, and Koshime for the pointers!

If anyone is interested, I started a CA sketchbook here for new stuff: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=110448

[DavidCousens]

I bought the Bridgeman book after reccommendations in this thread (it may well have been yours, sketchling) and I am curious how everyone uses it.


Do you read through it and then set it aside, letting it influence your life drawing studies?

Do you go through it systmeatically copying the illustrations, trying to memorize the content?

Do you just keep it open on your desk and constantly refer back to it whenever you're working?


:xpld:

Is it realistic to hope that one day you'll be able to draw perfect poses from your imagination, or is this book just part of a range of reference material that an artist has to become familiar with, but eventually come back to time and again?

It's a mixture of everything in that list for me. The "Force" book made me think about how to draw forces and balancing figures which has an overall improvement in everything you draw. I'll occasionally draw a series of thumbnails to get poses into my memory and sometimes when I'm drawing a figure, I'll check up on the musle anatomy if I'm not too confident with it.

You get a certain memory for anything you draw, and just like exercising, the more you draw the "fitter" your memory becomes. I'm not sure anyone can become a living library of every pose, but you'll certainly be able to remember a good few, which will in turn inform others. There are certain poses I can knock out without thinking these days. And I can still draw Super Mario's head from memory because I drew him so many times as a kid! :)

Hope that helps mate!

[Molly]

I go thru my anatomy book and draw what I need to draw when I'm unsure, it's then added to my brain knowledge of anatomy to use later.

Going through page by page I think is best. You develop and understand as you go along. Reading thru, then putting the book down isnt IMO a good way to learn. THeres too much to take in, and you end up going back to the book anyway....

Cheers Kim for the swatches!!

Mx

[Bones Weep Tedium]

cheers for the advice, guys. :^^:

[DavidCousens]

You're entirely welcome mate :)

[Stephen Mason]

hey guys, im new and im english, :P lol just thought ide say hello.

From london by the way.

speak soon xxx

[Bones Weep Tedium]

hey guys, im new and im english, :P lol just thought ide say hello.

From london by the way.

speak soon xxx

YES!!

I'm not the new kid anymore!! :}

[sketchling]

cool :) welcome to the uk thread ;)

[koshime]

OK folks,

Our regular SOHO Nando's session, this friday after 6.30pm. All are invited.
Regulars are expected to attend on pain of coming to your house and spraypainting you for being too lazy.

[sketchling]

hmmm... just occured to me that nandos on a friday... its pretty hectic. Still do-able, but will think of ideas of where else to go.

ah, once one has food, the borders books on oxford st has a star(puke)bucks in it thats open late... the cool thing about that is you can grab any book... and read i in the coffee shop without buyin it. Great for references n stuff. Good backup plan. Foyles bookshop also has a good place to chill out, with food and interesting teas... (nice jazz cafe) all options. :D will kkkeep ya all posted

K

[Molly]

well, theres always Taro? anyhoo, we'll just bully some folk and get our regular seat - Friday it is then:)

Tx

[monkeyz0mbierobot]

hi there my dear and fellow UK peeps. I just wanted to bring this to your attention.

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=110739

from these forums the following users will be exhibiting:

oishiiniku, d-baker, mya, cakeypigdog & res

We intend to produce a series of exhibitions and will be including guest artists as well as the core group members in the future.

Chin chin chaps!

[aefx]

OK folks,

Our regular SOHO Nando's session, this friday after 6.30pm. All are invited.
Regulars are expected to attend on pain of coming to your house and spraypainting you for being too lazy.Friday sounds good. You have my number in case plans change at the last minute :)

[koshime]

I dont think I have your mobile in my new phone.....but it should pretty much be friday (barring rain of ice age proportions)

[_andreas_]

hei there,
i dont want to intrude but:
im visiting london next month (13th december till 18th) and it would
be cool to have a beer and draw with some of you guys.

this is the second time for me visiting england (the first time was 1994 and i was 14) so im exited.

im also open for tips of any kind (museums, bars, shops)!
thx and have a great friday

[Crane]

welcome stephen! now get a sketchbook up!

[aefx]

I dont think I have your mobile in my new phone.....but it should pretty much be friday (barring rain of ice age proportions)You should do, you handed me your BB on Thursday to put my contact details in. Should be under James M.

[Hazamataz]

hi all, hope you are all well and toasty,
Just want to say thanks for sharing the nintendo ds colours stuff, I just got mine and....weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! I took it to the local art gallery and life drawing, it's brilliant! I want to get some kind of waterproof case so I can take it out on location more.

I'm gonna be in london on sunday, probably go to the national to do abit o' Dsing. If anyone fancies it your welcome to join in the fun.

Also a quick shout for help.....HELP!
a friend of a friend staying in london is in a bit of a predicament... She's a film student and stuck in some expensive accomodation she can't pay for, and having to miss some uni to work for it. If anyone know's of any cheap accomodation/rooms in london zone 2, i know it's abit of longshot, but any advice is apprieciated

[Stovieheed]

Hi all, ive been lurking around here for a while now and only just found this thread,are there more members from north of the border? I live in Fife myself.

Craig

[Crane]

Stoviehead: everyones north of the bloody border but me!
welcome to CA!

[Quicksilver]

hei there,
i dont want to intrude but:
im visiting london next month (13th december till 18th) and it would
be cool to have a beer and draw with some of you guys.

this is the second time for me visiting england (the first time was 1994 and i was 14) so im exited.

im also open for tips of any kind (museums, bars, shops)!
thx and have a great friday
Heya, most of us school kids should be off for Christmas around then, so maybe we could arrange a meet?

So how about it, guys, big meet in London in December? I'm free from 15th Dec - 6th Jan and don't plan on getting a job as I'll be spending my hols half here in Bournemouth and half at home in Wales.

It's been toooo looooooonnngggg!!! I miss hanging out with you all :(

[Stovieheed]

Stoviehead: everyones north of the bloody border but me!
welcome to CA!

Haha! Thanks for the welcome mate,where abouts are you based?

[Molly]

welcome Stovie - im from Laaandaaaan - but welcome anyway!
Tx

[Stovieheed]

Hi Molly thanks for the welcome! :teeth:

[Mon Chat]

Hey guys!, I haven't posted much on this thread, but I would love to come to one of the meets!, I have a place to stay in muswell hill, so im pretty flexible (provided its during the weekends, schools a nusance.) however I do have hols soon... do say if theres a meet! (no where too busy? southbank maybe?)

also, I never properly said hello Im new on this thread... HELLO IM NEW :D

[koshime]

Another regular Kim-Chee meet at nandos Friday.

Usual time/place
. Feel free to invite yourself

[wesburt]

hey londoners! what is the friday meet up you speak of? i'm in london right now with my friend sam, also from massive black, and we'd love to meet up. we've been at a loss as to what to do in the evenings. we only have plans for various galleries and museums during the daytimes and then dont know what to do after they all close

[cartoonfox]

OMG how long have you been in London?!?!

How long are you there for? It's my birthday tomorrow and I'm going out, and then I'm going out again on Friday night : [
You can't be in London without me meeting you!!

[cartoonfox]

I'm going out to Shoreditch on Friday (Central) you can come along by all means but I'm guessing you want to meet up with people and draw, not get drunk with strangers

[wesburt]

no, we'd certainly be up for meeting up for anything! we dont really know where to go after it gets to evening time.
we're going to try to hit up the Tate Modern, the British Museum, and probably the Imperial War museum over the next couple days (went to the Eye and the National Portrait Gallery today). we can meet up with anyone else during the daytime too if anyone wants to wander around with us, just send me a pm. i'll let you know where we're headed to and when, we sort of plan it in the morning when we head out.

i'm here through sunday, and then off to paris. i think sam is here through monday or tuesday.


also, i know its a long shot, but if anyone has floor space or a spare couch for use to crash on, we'd love to get out of the shitty shitty hostel we're staying in in southbank. its been practically impossible to sleep (here i am right now!) we've only slept maybe 2 hours over the past 50 hours. it suuuuucks.

[[void]]

Ah im not prepared.... I'm going to end up talking like dick van dyke and act more london than I really am.

[cartoonfox]

Well you could stay at ours but it's in North West London, it's about 30 minutes on the Metropolitan line from Baker Street and there's nothing to do here.
But we have two comfy coaches if you're desperate.

[lefran]

Arg wish i lived in london! On a side note, Happy birthday Cai! ( facebook just informed me!)

[aph]

Happy Birthday Cai =)
Glad you and void are going to Seattle too heh =)

What time/place is the meet in London on Fri?

[Molly]

OMG too! Wesburt - is it Sam Brown whos with you??? Shit man, would love to meet up with you guys!

This Friday, we will be meeting at Nandos, on Frith Street, in Soho, nearest Stn is Tottenham Court Road on the central line (theres 4 exits)or Leicester Square Stn on the piccadilly line underground - we should be there from 6.30pm, seated downstairs...

Wesburt/Sam - If you have time, you could go visit the Hunterian Museum, in Lincoln Inn Fields - lotsa dead things, animal and human skeletons(of all ages), body parts an stuff...pretty cool. Its in The Royal College of Surgeons building, on the 1st floor; you just need to let the front desk know where your going - its free btw:)

Theres an Egypt exhibit all the way over in East London, in the 02 center, (formally Millenium Dome), nearest tube North Greenwich on the jubilee underground line - BUT tickets may be difficult to get hold of due to popularity, it may be daily, like first come first served kinda thing...

Theres the Victoria & Albert Museum, in South Kensington - sculpture, fashion, painting, design - round the corner is the Natural History museum, and the Science Museum - which is pretty cool; the Tate Britain & Tate Modern - (tate modern IMO is alright, a mix of modern are and stuff - the buildings cool, but in my experience a bit of a let down)
the Tate Britain houses better master pieces...

If the Hostel in the Southbank is shit - I'd suggest Cartoonfox's idea and crash on his sofas! The Metropolitan line up to Cai's aint that far and beats a shitty hostel!!!

Mx

[Molly]

OOps! HAPPY BIRTHDAY CAI!!!! Mx

[sketchling]

wesburt : Yeah, Come along n join the nandos crew :)
and...
:ah: :aa: :ap: :ap: :ay: :ab: :ai: :ar: :at: :ah: :ad: :aa: :ay:
:ac: :aa: :ai: :a!: :a!: :a!:

[wesburt]

thanks for all the info molly, were looking into some of those places!

we'll most likely be there at nandos on friday, see you then!

[Badger]

Happy birthday Cai!!
and i might bumble around the Hunterian friday day for uni. If i do then i'll see you guys in nandos in the evening.
-B-

[Quicksilver]

Damnnit!! Got uni on Friday and going to see Bill Bailey on Saturday.....hmmmm......

Happy Birthday, Cai!! :D

[Crush]

What's this, Wes!? I don't think I've ever wanted to be in London more than right now... :^^;:

Happy birthday Fox!! :D *Adds to facebook*

[yAdam]

Happy birthday cai!!! Did you get galaxy yet?

[Quicksilver]

According to his status on FaceBook, he's playing it right now :) Saw the trailer yesterday - looks soooo cool, but at the same time slightly confusing :x


Hahaha, I love this: :mod:

[cartoonfox]

Thanks guys : ]

Yep I got Galaxy, it's fricking awesome. One of the best gams I've played in a very long time. Nintendo prove they can still rock it!

[Hybridstar]

Happy birthday dude.:7up:

Wes Burt in blighty...................KEWL!!! Any chance of a mini uk meet on Sunday? Running a workshop Saturday and a class Friday night!!! Woe is me.

[koshime]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY CAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll be about central London on Friday (either at our Holborn viaduct offices/drawing at St paul's) before heading over to meet my partner in crime and Nandos bonanza in the afternoon

[Zero Sum]

Hey i'm trying be more active in meeting up with more artists in London and this meet seems like a great way to start would anyone mind if I came along?

Also I'm going to be in the Hunterian museum tommorow aswell so if anyone wants to meet up there aswell I'd be happy to.

[Mr Man]

Happy Buffday Cai!!!!!

Blimey I haven't posted here in ages!!!

Hmm, I should tag along tomoz. If I can figure out the train times then ill pop over. I may need to crash somewhere though I'm not sure.
It's been a while since I have been to a proper meet :)

So what are people doing tomorrow afternoon? I might as well make a day of it.

Rich.

[Mr Man]

Blarg edit that. I have many things to do tomorrow soz.
Have fun my munchkins! :D

[Quicksilver]

I'm so jealous :( Take pictures for me, guys....

[koshime]

Cai comes of age today. we will have to buy him welsh rabbit and drinks all around!!!


Ye have to come live in london Naomi. heh he!

[koshime]

It was good to see everyone last night in what was possibly a large outing in Nandos, with our special MB guests Wesburt and Sam. It was a good atmosphere where Sketchling was demoing some general digital art techniques, and cai and adam doing their thing and Molly being tourguide for places to see in london.

Unfortunately because it was so large I dont think we got to meet everyone intimately last night.

[Mon Chat]

GAHHH, wish I could have been there, how was it? can I come to the next one?

[koshime]

Sure. Its open to any artist.....just an informal session involving nice roasted chicken and an empty table with folks wanting to sketch/draw/chat....and network

[Quicksilver]

Wheeee, I gots my own official emoticon~ :mittenbop:

[Mon Chat]

Awesome, well Chances are I'll be in london soon enough... which nandos? :)

[Mr Man]

Yay!!!!:mittenbop:

[Summer Pudding]

Introducing the new UK Thread theme tune. Naff? Certainly. Cheesy? No question. Brilliant? YUSS!! :)

mUUSqSeqp2c

[Molly]

LOL.... its so, late 80's early 90's, with Highlander thrown into the mix!
fucking brilliant!:D

[lefran]

Haha that certainly is UK theme material!
Altough not as motivational, but still pretty good!
(for anyone who doesnt get the reference- this was the original themetune http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p5RAsG6Dbw instated at the manchester meet)

[aefx]

Awesome, well Chances are I'll be in london soon enough... which nandos? :) It's in Soho on Frith St. :yum:

[Summer Pudding]

"There's no easy way ooout!", or as my eldest heard it, "There's Ron Weasley way ooout!" :) A marked lyrical improvement imo.

Hope you're all healthy, wealthy and wise. I'm considering another Great Northern meet in the New Year. This one'd probably mean finding your own accomodation tho'.

Pete

[koshime]

This weeks casual meet will be on

Thursday, 29th at the usual (Nandos, SOHO on Frith street)
It'll be less busy and have more space for us crazy lot....

[Crush]

+1 for another meet round here in the near future :D

[Quicksilver]

Yay, meet~

Is there gonna be one next month?

[koshime]

Next month....too far to ask....

(but suffice to say, this will be the 4th consequitive weekly meet)

[Mon Chat]

hey guys, Im gunna be down in london tomorrow, so maybe, just maybe Ill be able to get to soho nando's :) don't hold yout breath though

[Summer Pudding]

I'm having a bit of an existential angsty moment here folks. Damn it, this song might just be better than the last one. God, it's like Sophie's Choice! I can't decide!

R1cdI69zopA

Pete

[koshime]

whats happenign up narf for ya to be angsty pete?

[Mon Chat]

No ones posting :0 goshhhh, well if any of you ever have the chance to be in a music video. do so. its the most fun everrrrrr. m'kay, thats all I have to say really...

[Quicksilver]

This thread's been motionless for ten whole days?! What's going on?? :P

Anyone here going for the mighty ChoW 100? The topic is to design Medusa.
Here's what I've got so far.....http://conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1566444&postcount=106

[_andreas_]

the chow is looking good so far, kinda hard to say more at this point.
the idea with the throne being made out of once-living-things is great!

if someone wants to meet/hang around, im going to be in london from thursday to monday.
the only thing ive planned so far is going in ALLOT of museums and trying to find new glasses at a market.
EXITING!

[Molly]

Hey Naomi!

ya, Im gona give this CHOW ago too!
Hows peoples LMS3 going?

Mx

[daveneale]

Aw man, my LMS is soooo slow right now-work is kicking my ass, so I've just done some character designs for it....I'm planing a christmas ful of LMS joy-I'm so glad they extended the deadline

[Quicksilver]

Could someone point me in the direction to the LMS3 thread?? 'Cause I can't find it anywhere! :/

[lefran]

The threads in the challenge arena-
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=119

The thread in the lounge-
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=110449&page=14


Its mostly just trash talk.

[[void]]

Havnt started mine yet, to be honest im doomed anyway. Im up against Icon and Koppa...

[Molly]

aaah - Adam - c'mon - you can match them both! Stop being silly and all lack-of-confidence etc etc I think you can do a great fucking job, and you know it!

Now, the deadlines been extended, so go do some blaady work!

RANT over.....

Tx

[Kian]

i got some pegs dave, you want some pegs????

[koshime]

what do the pegs relate to?

[lefran]

is it to do with the league of gentleman? as in 'you're my wife now dave'
because Tekura has Papa Lazarou as her avatar?

I also need to finish mine!

[Quicksilver]

Heya guys, anyone mind helping me out and critiquing my ChoW so far?
Cheers.

ChoW 100, 'Medusa', WIP (http://conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1573641&postcount=244)

Hope all is well with everyone! ^_^

~~Naomi xxx

[Kian]

thts the one fran :)
when i get home naomi, i'll give you a crit. Dont let me forget.

and i started a new SB!
|enVironmental

[cas]

Hi Molly, Badger and anybody else I know through the UK Sketch Group.

I'm based in Switzerland now so it's unlikely I'll be turning up for any drawings sessions. However I've started getting into concept art, so I've started posting in my old sketchbook (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=34064&page=2) again.

I'll drop by your personal sketch threads when I find the time. :D

Cheers!
Chris

[Dirty C]

hey
gotta space in my room in seattle - me brat and layil. does anyone need a spot still?

[daveneale]

Happy Christmas guys, hope yours will be filled with fun doodles, a little festive cheer, and most importantly, lots and lots of mulled wine! (that kind of gets included in the festive cheer)

-Dave

[EddTQ]

:D MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!
i guess christmas comes like 4-5 hours early for us being in the UK!

what did everyone get?

i'm about to finally get a working wacom tablet, it's only a graphire 2 but i'm just gonna be using it to learn on being the complete wacom n00b that i am..

hope you all have a good one :D

[Quicksilver]

MERRY CHRISTMAS, EVERYONE!!! Hope you all have a great time :D

~~Naomi xxx

[krossj]

Happy Holidays UK folk!

Cheers

[Mon Chat]

merry christmas for everyone yesterday :)

[lefran]

this thread is very quiet! and there hasnt been a meet for months, by my calculations last meet was September in Manchester, someone needs to get the ball rolling! i would myself, but its so difficult for me to get time off work i'l just have to try and work round whatever is suggested. Come on people!

[Quicksilver]

I did try and arrange a lil meet in London but no-one replied.....

What area does everyone wanna raid next? Extra points to those who think outside the box of London.

[Mon Chat]

MILTON KEYNES! :D:D:D its amazing, you should all come. think:

In london your never more than 20 feet away from someone telling you your never more than 20 feet away from a rat.

In milton keynes your never more than 20 feet away from a round-about

easy access from london and birmingham.

utterly souless.
yeah? good art gallery, if a little small.

[koshime]

we had a meet for 7 weeks every week in Oct- Nov.....

[lefran]

yeah but not one on the weekend like normal when a lot of other people can get there due to college/ uni /work.
And those meets tend to be only london folk who go as far as i know, if a date was thrown out here, im sure a lot more people would travel rather than just those who go weekly
Thats if its London for the next one
I know theres weekly london meet ups, but its difficult for a lot of people to them frequently, and costly too, it would cost me about £30-£50 for a return on the train to get to london, just for a few hours on a friday night or whenever it is. If it was a day rather than a couple of hours its a lot more worth while

[Quicksilver]

we had a meet for 7 weeks every week in Oct- Nov.....
Chee.....*not everyone can make those meets unless they live in London, or are loaded and have nothing else to do*, so for God's sake stop poo-pooing people's efforts to get actual, not-necessarilylocal-meets going. If it's not your thing, then just stay out of the whole process so not to offend the rest of us.

/Rant

Milton Keynes? Never been there. Are there any interesting exhibitions going on there atm?

Pete, are you still thinking about arranging a Manchester meet, mate?

[Mon Chat]

http://www.mk-g.org/ for the gallery website... suprising the stuff that goes through there, I saw some stuff in there that ended up in the tate modern... little bits of card on string, made these funky paper clouds... Im going up there today, I shall check it out and get back to you.

a big wooden tower thing.
http://www.mkweb.co.uk/whatson/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=52603

[aefx]

Chee.....*not everyone can make those meets unless they live in London, or are loaded and have nothing else to do*, so for God's sake stop poo-pooing people's efforts to get actual, not-necessarilylocal-meets going. If it's not your thing, then just stay out of the whole process so not to offend the rest of us.

/RantI don't mean to cause trouble but that looked a bit over the top, I think Chee stated that there have been a number of meets because somebody else said there hasn't been any.

As for me, I'd prefer Manchester over Milton Keynes. Been to MK a few times and was bored out of my head :S

[Quicksilver]

I don't mean to cause trouble but that looked a bit over the top, I think Chee stated that there have been a number of meets because somebody else said there hasn't been any.
Not really. Every time someone tries arranging a big meet he goes on about the ones that have been happening in London, as though that's perfectly sufficient. He also doesn't believe in democracy and patronises my efforts to make locations/dates fair enough so most people can make these events.
I dunno if you were around then but, before, Christian (Dirty_C) and I used to organise meets where people from anywhere in the UK could meet up for a day or two and go see exhibitions and make the most of spending at least a full DAY with creative people in fun surroundings. Some of us have made great efforts to make these meets, spending around £100 per visit (bare in mind that most of us are students with part-time jobs at the most).

All I'm saying is,
a.) Not everyone's from London;
b.) ...nor do we always want to go there;
c.) It's not fair on people who have to travel great distances and have to pay a whole lot more on travelling just so the Londoners can stay in their cosy element. How many Londoners, seriously now, made the effort to get up a bit earlier and spend a bit more cash to see the rest of us in the previous Bristol/Manchester/Cardiff/Oxford meets? I'm aware that there have been unfortunate incidents along the way, but overall it's pretty appalling.

So no, I'm not going over the top, and I'm not being moody; this has been going on for ages and has been discussed here and on MSN/phone.

dr-yes-no-and-maybe: Cheers for the heads up :) Will see what everyone else thinks.

[lefran]

somebody else said there hasn't been any.

Oh, i know theres been local meets, ive been to a few bristol ones myself, its just nice to have the larger full day meets i think, and there hasnt been one of those since september. I'd just like to see you guys again!

I dont really mind where it is, manchester was good last time, ive not been to milton keynes before. I dont mind london either as i quite like london. The Oxford/ Bristol one was good too, that animal museum was really cool.

I dont really want to be a part of any argument, but i did seem that Koshime was suggesting that because we havent been going to london meets thats our fault kind of thing? , if that wasnt your intention then i apologise, its just why i think naomi and i posted back. I would love to be able to go, but it would cost me an arm and a leg every time. Im sure it might be the same for a few others, so to organise a full day once every month, two months, would sure be a lot less costly to most.

Also, as true as many things that have been said are by Naomi, i dont disagree, its just i think that maybe organising meets in bad terms might not be the best of ideas, because we wouldnt want to argue over something thats meant to be fun, and end up ruining something that was previously long running. I think if maybe everyone takes on board what has been said, as the things naomi listed are true, but we dont really want to make a good thing suddenly bitter on many counts if lots of people argue. (Naomi this isnt aimed at you, i just mean if anyone else is gonna pipe up).

So, does anyone else have any ideas of locations, exhibitions? also dates?

[daveneale]

I'm planning a move to the big smoke, so I'll hopefully get in on this laaandan action when I get down there, but as for a lil meet my preference would be Manchester (purely for selfish northern reasons....I know for a fact that Milton Keynes is a great many more pounds for me)... plus I quite fancy a trip to Aflex Palace cause I need some more jeans and my favourite jean shop is in there:). Never met any of you lovely peoples so would be good to have a little arty excursion and see what all these avatars actually look like in person. I have no idea what the gallery situation is there, I just googled a lil and the Urbis looks like it has some fun design/uni stuff at the moment (till feb): http://www.urbis.org.uk/exhibitions.asp and there's a manga thing starting in march which I'd quite like to go see too.

[Molly]

Sorry - but Milton Keynes??? Theres fuck all round there. No Galleries, No museums- and its FULL of roundabouts. No, no way, NOT Milton Keynes..Bristol, Liverpool, Nottingham, Norwich, Manchester, Bath, Brighton, Cardiff, Edinburgh, Glasgow- YES.. absolutey NOT Milton Keynes....

Naomi - chill out.
Koshime - stop making a point about the London meets; if someone here wants to organise one, let them, just dont post that theres been trillions of London meets, cos it dont help

EVERYONE ELSE:
If you are down in London - or wherever for the day, make a post and hopefully people may be able to join you;

If you plan on going to a museum or gallery for the day and fancy some company at short notice - make a post and hopefully people may be able to join you;

If you want to plan whatever you want to plan - make a post and hopefully people may be able to join you;

If your idea of fun is running naked in the street - make a post and hopefully people may be able to join you;

There are no set rules as to HOW you should organise a meet, or if you want to hang out with people for a day, 2 days, a week or a bloody month.

.....I'm off to organise all the boxes of biscuits I got for christmas, because its more hard work than this thread...

Mx

[Stoat]

If anybody's in South London, The Dulwich Picture Gallery (http://www.dulwichpicturegallery.org.uk/) has got "THE AGE OF ENCHANTMENT Beardsley, Dulac and their Contemporaries 1890-1930" up until February 17. I'm in Sussex for the holidays, but I don't think I'll get up to see it.

Pity. The Dulwich is a great small museum, and I'll be that show is spectacular.

[Badger]

As Fran pointed out i organise a monthly Bristol meet, but i do that through other channels mostly (e-mail). Partially due to the fact it's more illustrators than Concept artists, and they wouldn't check here. But if anyone wants in gimme a shout.
-B-

[aefx]

Glasgow would rock if it was on a Saturday, so much to do up there. Definitely one of my fav places in the UK.

Naomi, yeah I did make it to a couple of meets that you guys organised. They were fun so I look forward to more!

[Mon Chat]

well. I feel shot down... the exhibition wasn't anthing to shout about, but the architecture is pretty interesting... as far as high rise flats go.
blah, so much for lazyness.

how about Oxford?

Oxford is good. culture... and stuff...

(Molly - at least its not aylesbury.)
(aefx - I would kill for the chance to go to glasgow again, awesome place... sadly Calais is nearer... actually i think paris is closer... sheesh.)
(everone else - I revoke my milton keynes comment. dont waste your money.)

[koshime]

I don't mean to cause trouble but that looked a bit over the top, I think Chee stated that there have been a number of meets because somebody else said there hasn't been any.

I think it must literally be a guy and girl thinking mentality difference.

Woman says: no meet.
Man thinks - hmm there have been some

Woman implies : no general meet but local meet. makes sense now...

And we get all the stick from the women folk. Blaady heck. (whats with the london is the best issue. I've not said any of that shite....)

A 2008 general meet would be a good idea (somewhere not so wet due to the worst of winter coming up)
so perhaps a Bristol or Sheffield meet

[Quicksilver]

I think it must literally be a guy and girl thinking mentality difference.

Woman says: no meet.
Man thinks - hmm there have been some

Woman implies : no general meet but local meet. makes sense now...

And we get all the stick from the women folk. Blaady heck. (whats with the london is the best issue. I've not said any of that shite....)

A 2008 general meet would be a good idea (somewhere not so wet due to the worst of winter coming up)
so perhaps a Bristol or Sheffield meet
Talk about over-generalising....how you got to that silly conclusion I'll never know. Btw, I know local meets happen 'cause I chat to people who attend them and started going to the Bournemouth ones myself.

Anyway, forget it. Think what you want, even if it is completely off track.

[Badger]

Nah Naomi, i was in agreement with you.

And Hey!! cas great to hear from you mate, it's been... 2years?? 0.o

-B-

[aph]

You got biscuits for xmas too? Multiples? Gah.. jealous Tek... =]

[Molly]

For gods sake...
Chee, your still not helping. EVERYONE knows of the little-London meets for the London folk we have, but they are NOT a full on UK MEET. Which is what Naomi was talking about. Its very simple to understand, none of this man, women shit your chatting about, your being a condesending neanderthol...

Naomi, I understand how you feel, but theres no point getting so worked up about it. Im sorry some of the Londoners haven't made the effort to come up north, to Bristol, or Cardiff or Manchester, or meet you when your in town - but I'm sure we have our reasons. Mine is I'm freelance, and dont get paid regular monthly wages, so I gotta keep my pennies. Your a student, and in a similar situation, so we do know where your coming from.

It shouldn't be such a headache to organise a UK meet for the future. We got people moaning left, right and centre, spending useful energies on a situation that can be easily solved.

Mx

[Molly]

BTW I hope this helps:

UK Meet = anyone living in England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland meeting up in a chosen British town
(for example: UK MEET in London = means, exactly wot it sez on da tin)

London Meet = for those living in or near London
Bristol Meet = for those living in or near Bristol
Manchester Meet = for those living in or near Manchester
Cardiff Meet = for those living in or near Cardiff
Birmingham Meet = for those living in or near Birmingham
Norwich Meet = for those living in or near Norwich
Nottingham Meet = for those living in or near Nottingham
Oxford Meet = for those living in or near Oxford
Cambridge Meet = for those living in or near Cambridge
Southampton Meet = for those living in or near Southampton
Edinburgh Meet = for those living in or near Edinburgh
Glasgow Meet = for those living in or near Glasgow
Exeter Meet = for those living in or near Exeter
Brighton Meet = for those living in or near Brighton
Essex Meat = hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahaha innit man
ETC, ETC, ETC........you get the gist????

sorry for my sarcasim, i never wrote an essay at school, and, i'm bored....Mx

[koshime]

Ok, well beside frozen caveman jokes and jibes aside (honestly, it didnt seem clear to me, but when i looked at it from a mollyesque view, it made some sense)

There is a weekend brighton/hove pilgrimage in the first 2 weeks of jan
to meet up with Hurri/Foxoo.

From London (victoria or other train stations) - there are multiple trains heading to brighton or hove (and if you miss one, you can take the GATWICK express and reconnect).

From our experience (myself and sketchling) it's probably worth taking an early 8-9 am train as it takes around 1.5 hours to get there...and if you arrive at noon, it doesnt leave enough time to sketch....before it hits dark...

[Molly]

Ok, well beside frozen caveman jokes and jibes aside (honestly, it didnt seem clear to me, but when i looked at it from a mollyesque view, it made some sense)............

^Good thing I didn't write that drunk then! hahaha!

I'm up for a weekend trip to Brighton. Please let us know the dates as soon as (I wanna make sure I can stay at my sisters)

Mx

[Atastrophea]

Hello UK people :)

I can't sleep! why is it when you reach 6am and your still awake there is no way of turning your brain off? *eyes fall out of head* *sigh*

So...... I'm having a moment of early morning inspiration here that involves thinking about MA/Post-Grad courses that are relevant to concept art in the uk. I've never really considered that as an option before Where does one start looking? I'm in my final year at Wimbledon at the moment and haven't really considered what happens next :O :[

p.s. sorry if I hijacked the argument about meets, If anyone wants to come and visit Wimbledon and sketch the Wombles sometime let me know ;)

m^-^m

[Molly]

hahahaha - hijack all you like!...
Ya know, I have noo idea about courses relevant to concept art in the UK, sorry.... Check your UCAS book, or google. You may find that anything relevant will be Illustration or animation courses - what about Industrial design? you could try that...good luck

So, Wombles in Wimbledon? Is it open season then?

[Mon Chat]

how does one catch a womble?

[daveneale]

you lay a trap with an everyday thing, then when they come to make good use, you pounce

[Atastrophea]

Right everyone! Sketches of Womble trapping devices all round...... ;)

(p.s Molly; its ALWAYS Wombling season.....)

Im actually in sunny sunny Oxfordshire for Xmas though, so haven't had a chance to see if any of my carefully laid traps have been sprung yet. Fingers Crossed hey :)

[Molly]

Well, a suitable shotgun should suffice for a large Womble;

Anyhoo - some advice if curiosity gets the better of you...
DONT DO IT!

I have a smollen lymph node in my neck. I checked in the mirror to see...er...to see what it looked like, and then proceeded to 'tactile test' which part of my throat hurts, I end up prodding the lymph node, causing terrible pain in my neck up to my ear, difficulting swallowing and tears to my eyes! - A split second after, it did cross my mind, I shouldnt have done that...

Ok, thats all for today. Have a wonderful New Years - chat to you in 2008!

Mx

[koshime]

happy New yeaR 2008 !

[Mon Chat]

happy new year ;)

and also:
down in london tomorrow just incase anyone is feeling arty, sale on at london graphics centre! IM IN!)

[Crush]

Happy new year everyone!!! :)

[Stovieheed]

Happy New Year folks! All the best to you and your's!

Craig

[krossj]

Happy New year!

[koshime]

Hmmm sale huh. Will have to let my partners in crime charge the company to stock up on stationary....on the morrow

[Mon Chat]

Yeah, pretty good deals too!

[koshime]

thye dont stock prismacolour markers though. just shitty cap fall off Trias

[Mon Chat]

I found some copic markers... and sme other funky types, but lo... I must confess I stocked up on trias. (you may like to know that the lid of the one i had already had come off in my bag :P) but you can usually remedy the problem by just leaving the pen standing, with the dry end at the bottom, I love the brush part of them...

Niiiice, visited the tate and the natural history museum... you should have seen the gemstones exhibit... and this kid was being sick! Mental! (or not...)

[Atastrophea]

Ha Pea Noo Yeha!

;)

Question of the day:

Does anyone know of a particularly cheap online supplier of Sculpey 1lb blocks and sculpey III 20z blocks ? I've been trying to do a bit of google research but needle and haystack syndrome set in, so I thought Id ask the other uk bods before I place my order.

I normally buy it from the uni shop but I need more NOW!!! (or at least ASAP) ;)

Cheers everyone!

P.S My womble traps were all empty when I checked but we did manage to secure ourselves a "Flirting Dragon King" instead woop woop! :D

[Mon Chat]

Kars & Co
PO Box 272, Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, HP18 9YX - Tel:01844 238080
(Creall-Therm, Fimo)

thats like... within bus distance to me...
http://www.inspirationhouse.co.uk/shop/index1.html theres that...

But not being one to sculpt, or at least not being one to sculpt with anthing more than pants clay from school I couldn't say, hope it helps.

I did think about womble hunting... but then I stopped. it involved cheese graters making shower units...

[koshime]

Soane Museum,
Lincoln Inns field (Holborn tube station)
Feb 8th. 5.30pm onwards

brings eyes

[Kian]

wo wo wo! are we seriously talking about art in the UK thread???? WTF

Come on peeps, embarrasin New years eve stories plz! lol ;)

Hope yas all had a good'n
Jon

[Quicksilver]

Ha Pea Noo Yeha!

;)

Question of the day:

Does anyone know of a particularly cheap online supplier of Sculpey 1lb blocks and sculpey III 20z blocks ? I've been trying to do a bit of google research but needle and haystack syndrome set in, so I thought Id ask the other uk bods before I place my order.

I normally buy it from the uni shop but I need more NOW!!! (or at least ASAP) ;)

Cheers everyone!

P.S My womble traps were all empty when I checked but we did manage to secure ourselves a "Flirting Dragon King" instead woop woop! :D
Hiya, I *think* this is the place I bought mine from before....they've either changed their site or I'm thinking of another place with a similarish name. Here's the link anyway:
http://www.tiranti.co.uk/product.asp?Product=1017

Hope that helps!

Jon: Haven't got any, soz ;P

[koshime]

whats your embarrasing story jon ? *grin*

[Kian]

come on guys!! you can do better than that. And Chee, not untill i see everyone elses! :)

[koshime]

I reckon - nothing happened in new year.

Its christmas parties you'd be wanting....

[Mon Chat]

I fell asleep on someones bottom? thats as good as it gets for me...

[Atastrophea]

Thanks for the sculpey advice guys, I got 2 1lb super sculpey blocks and 3 x 2oz sculpey III blocks for £26 inc p&p in the end which I guess is a fairly reasonable price, considering some places sell it for £10 a block! :-o

I unfortunately have no embarassing x-mas/new years eve party tales this year on account of being far to old and sensible for that now.......

aHaHAhhahAhaHahaHahahhaHAahahahAHahAhahaha*passes out from laughing so hard*

just count yourselves lucky you didn't have to see me and my mates dancing ourselves silly to such tunes as "timewarp" and "hedwig and the angry inch" to the light of a mandlecandle about 5 mins after having risked life and limb climbing drunkenly out of the window and onto the roof to watch everyone elses fireworks ;)

We also bought ourselves our very own "Flirting Dragon King- His dreams are sweet" firework bundle. Who names these things??? lol

[koshime]

Spent new year....painting and watching fireworks on telly with wife on sofa. blisss....

[sleep]

yet again

i am back (id like to think you noticed my absence)

maybe ill stay a bit longer this time. its been a while, fran told me there were london meets fairly regularly id like to know (sidestepping naomi a little here) when the next one is, because right now i dont have the time or patience to go anywhere else.

just a casual meet up some time, preferably in nandos. i wish i could find my loyalty card, i was just about to get a free chicken (fuck)

i will make more of an effort to go out of london if i end up being a regular again

and a happy new year also.

[koshime]

Meets occur at least twice a month or more.
The events for london/from london (and are open to all digital/traditional artists) are as follows

12th January: Lon (Vic) to Hove/brighton (daytrip)

16th January: Nandos (firth street)

6/7th February: nandos (firth street) - Provisional

AND

Every Tuesday, of the 2nd week of the Month at Soane Museum, Lincon Inn's Field, Holborn at 5.30 (entry at 6pm) for a spectacular night drawing session

[cakeypigdog]

Hello UK peeps! Our exhibtion goes up next weekend please do come along! The private view is 7pm- 9.30pm next saturday. Details here:

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=110739

and here:

www.monkeyzombierobot.com

[Aly Fell]

Hi Jake. I'll see if I can make it, if not to the private view, at least one evening. After all I only work up the road... sort of... Best of luck with it!

[cakeypigdog]

cheers Ally,
We were going to try and get into touch with you, mr dixon and mr duddle this week, it would be great to see you guys. Please do let the chaps at work know about it too!
Cheers,
Jake

[Atastrophea]

Sketching expedition to Burton on Trent next weekend anyone? :drinkup:

Would love to come up and show some support to UK concept artists, I think its about a 3 hour journey from here, will have to check if its cheaper/easier to drive or use my trusty young persons railcard ;)

If I do drive and anyone from Oxfordshire area wants to ride-share and save the planet let me know!

anyway, will have to ponder the practicalities, but will try to come
m^-^m

[koshime]

All the best for the exhibit Guys.

Mfraid wont be able to make it personally as i'm on a business trip. But hope you guys garner legions of fans and admirers and peeps

[Molly]

Jon - no embarrassing stories from here, watched Jools Hollands Hootenanny and drank loads of champagne...

Jake - cant make the private view, but will definately try coming up during the week, would love to see the work you guys have been doing - good luck with it all;

Chee - should be able to make the Brighton trip..the Soane Museum thing sounds pretty cool - when you going next?....

[koshime]

Soane museum - has a special showing (night shwoing) this coming tuesday from 6pm (be warned there are loads of people queuing from all over the country from 5pm though....). I will be there till 6.45pm as I have another meeting to attend to later in the eve.

[Matt Dixon]

Jake - Are you guys going to be at the exhibition at any other time? I'd like to get across if I can, and it'd be good to meet up. Can't make Saturday though, unfortunately.

[aefx]

Wish I could go down to Brighton on the 12th but unfortunately I'll be stuck upgrading a power utilities network from NT 4.0 to Active Directory. Maybe next time.

[koshime]

There will be more opportunities for the pilgramage..so
no worries

[cakeypigdog]

hey mat,
we are not there generally but are happy to come over to meet up with CA people. What if we try and meet up at the exhibition in the afternoon on saturday 26th Jan- that way anyone who wants to come up and see it can play together on one day? if the date does not suit then i am sure a few of the more local people can meet up one evening instead- the venue is open most evenings for plays and groups and things. just pm with a date that suits you.
cheers fellah,
jake

[jread]

Hi guys and gals :)

Im currently living in Amersham, Buckinghamshire (last stop on the met underground line) Iv been a member for ages but only recently been participating in weekly CA.org shenanigans, some of you may know me from EoW and CHoW, but I only just found this thread so thought i would pop in and say hello! It would be cool to meet up with fellow artists...something I sorely miss atm :(

Is this meet-up business open to anyone? do I have to do any daring and courageous tasks to pass the test?! ...and how do you know what each other looks like? or do you just turn up and find the table spouting philosophy, pixel dimensions, and other arty goings-on!? :D

I just used my wacom pen to get into my packet of delicious spicy chicken bites! now my pen has spicy chicken all over it :(

-jread

[Molly]

hey mat,
we are not there generally but are happy to come over to meet up with CA people. What if we try and meet up at the exhibition in the afternoon on saturday 26th Jan- that way anyone who wants to come up and see it can play together on one day? if the date does not suit then i am sure a few of the more local people can meet up one evening instead- the venue is open most evenings for plays and groups and things. just pm with a date that suits you.
cheers fellah,
jake

This is a pretty cool idea, I would definately be up for that. Anyone else? Pipe up:) national rail click here (http://ojp2.nationalrail.co.uk/en/pj/tt)

JRead - welcome!
The meets are open to EVERYONE, so keep an eye out and pop along when you can....


BTW - the McGanns are allowing a film to be made about the disappearance of their daughter Maddie. What next? A Band Aid song? fuck off.....

[Mon Chat]

Hey Jread, its good to hear someone else is from bucks! im just outside buckingham :D welcome to the thread!

and the meet on the 26th sounds great! I'll see what im upto :D

[daveneale]

Crazyness, I was just in Amersham over the weekend for a friends birthday...also rocked into london for the winter wonderland and discovered that drunken ice-skating is impossible (and I have the bruises to prove it).

Gonna try make it to the old gallaria, I may be down in birmingham next weekend so will definitly pop across if I am, not sure what time though.

[Atastrophea]

drunken ice-skating is impossible .

***Jealous***

I've wanted to go on one of the open air ice rinks in London for ages! but all my friends say you queue for hours for 5 mins on the ice?

(There's an indoor Ice rink down the bottom of my road but strangely I dont feel compelled to visit it - try googling Streatham Ice Rink and you'll probably understand ;) )

*sudden genius plan*

I don't believe drunken ice skating is impossible! I challenge everyone to a pub & ice rink sketching trip!!! lol


Hello jread! welcome :) *cannot believe anyone lucky enough to be in possesion of a wacom pen would use it in such a shameful fashion* :-o

[John.D]

I might tag along to one of these meets sometime too, they sound like fun :)

[Mon Chat]

hey, does anyone know what those big things gas is kept in are called, you know... those big cylindery things... loads around arnos grove station... and theres one on the front of the new editors album... I MUST KNOW!

thanks all :)

[Atastrophea]

oooh ohhh I know pick me pick me!!!!! :bounce:

They're called GASOMETERs hope that helps :D

I volunteer at Battersea Dogs and Cats home sometimes and theres a big blue one next door :)

[jread]

Thankyou for the warm welcome all :)

the Nandos trip sounds rather inviting! What does the daytrip to Brighton involve?

***Jealous***

Hello jread! welcome :) *cannot believe anyone lucky enough to be in possesion of a wacom pen would use it in such a shameful fashion* :-o

but it was for delicious spicy chicken pieces! the pen is the cheap bit anyways...but fear not for it is not broken, just a bit spicier than before ;)

[koshime]

Those large Cylindrical water tanks? Me and the wife call them cow sacrificial altars due to the multiple huge rods/spikes at the top

[daveneale]

***Jealous***

I've wanted to go on one of the open air ice rinks in London for ages! but all my friends say you queue for hours for 5 mins on the ice?




hehe, well we didn't queue for more than a couple of mins, but thats cause we'd missed the 1st half hour because we were in the bar and I hadn't finished our mulled wine....which turned out to be a very good thing, I'd have gotten more bruises if I'd been on the ice for longer

[Atastrophea]

hehe, well we didn't queue for more than a couple of mins, but thats cause we'd missed the 1st half hour because we were in the bar and I hadn't finished our mulled wine....which turned out to be a very good thing, I'd have gotten more bruises if I'd been on the ice for longer

Ha! I'd like to see an artistic rendering of you with these so called "bruises" everyone knows that being under the influence of alcohol IMPROVES motor function and um er the sub demal ultra balance sensors of the bi angular node, thus making activities such as skating a doddle um, er.......

yep LETS GO draw, skate, drink and be merry!!!!

SKaetching = Drawing on Ice?

P.S I hadn't finished OUR mulled wine ??? you mean you were drinking everyone elses wine too? I take it back about skating together - I like to drink my own drinks! *is suddenly scared of this >daveneale< person*

;) :D

[daveneale]

*cough, well I was of course using the royal "I", meaning "we"....although you should be scared, especially if you see me on the ice, which is when I'm danger to myself and others

[sleep]

deadline for foundation course applications soon,

anyone got anything to say about centrail saint martins, byam shaw, wimbledon or camberwell? i need to pick one of them and to be honest they all looked a bit bollocks from the open days

[Badger]

Camberwell atleast has a drawing course with a good reputation so you might get access to them and they'll have some resources. That's about all i know sean, good luck.
-B-

[Atastrophea]

Well CSM are a bit pants in my oppinion but thats partly because of a lot of the people there are um well not my kind of person I guess and also they are another one that seems to rely heavily on its name from what I've experienced (did a portfolio life drawing course there, saved up the -lots of-pennies, travelled to london for a week- it was exactly what I'd already been "taught" on my AVCE at Oxford College of FE only I'd say with less of the teaching part :wtf: )


Wimbledon, I may be biased ;) but a lot of my friends and coursemates did it and enjoyed it, but then my degree isn't an illustration based one so it might not help for that.

Don't know about the other two, may I ask why you are particularly intrested in uni of the arts london courses?

I'm most jealous of my best mate who did graphics/art A-levels followed by a foundation in Norfolk (Norwich?) As he knows so much about traditional techniques mediums etc and perspective and everything that I somehow managed to get to this point without really learning about!!! Plus his creative identity has been fostered well and he's never afraid to experiment and really believes in himself, which seems to me the best advantage of all.

sorry, I talk too much *blushes* good luck with your applications!

P.S. 'ello Badger! fellow part time Oxforditeian ;)

[Mon Chat]

TIE!! GO TO FALMOUTHHHH! ( i got an interview there...) or check out ravensbourne, looked pretty nice.

good to have another foundation go'er :)

YAY *foundation high 5*
(avoid norwich foundation in computer games. however I couldn't comment on any other course.)

on my sacraficial cow alter topic, does anyone fancy a trip to Arnos grove/ally pally? im from round there like, and ally pally has a pretty good view... subversive sketch trip? lots of walking involved.

[koshime]

In UK, I'd advise against doing any concept art or computer games related course. Game companies prefer artist from traditional or alternative backgrounds to help create a RICH mix within the cartel of cocnept artists it hires.

[Mon Chat]

In UK, I'd advise against doing any concept art or computer games related course. Game companies prefer artist from traditional or alternative backgrounds to help create a RICH mix within the cartel of cocnept artists it hires.

Or because they teach you no drawing skills, still really dissapointed with norwich.

[sleep]

badger: thanks mate.camberwell is the standard choice for my sixth form (most people get accepted there) i went there for an open day though and it was ok. i also heard there wasnt much structured teaching and they let you to your own devices- i am truly the laziest pleb there ever was and if someone isnt reminding me what im meant to be doing once in a while, it wont get done
atastrophea: well i gathered from my elitist dickhead of an ex gf that csm had the best graduation show as far as art went, but that doesnt concern foundation courses.. what kind of people do you mean, pretentious knobs? im going for ual cos its the easiest option as far as a foundation course goes, i live in london within easy distance of all of them and they all have good names
dr-yes..etc: cant be bothered to look anywhere except ual. deadline is 31st jan so its a bit too late to look around also all my friends are going to ual places, i want to go somewhere thats close and i can have a good social life with (parties...etc)
koshime: i was never planning on a computer games or even graphic design course anyway... i havent wanted to be a concept artist for a couple of years now - painting/fine art is my thing

thanks for all the recommendations and advice. keep it coming if you have any :}

[lefran]

i dont have any recommendations, just hope you have more luck with your course that i'm having with mine, as nice as the tutors are, i really havent learnt anything, theres not really any teaching involved at all so im left to my own devices, which is ok by me i guess in a way because i can still produce portfolio work, but i have genuinely learnt more from CA than any form of art 'schooling' ive had so far. Its frustrating when you ask a question and they dont know the answer so waffle on about somthing non related just to appear to be teaching. In some cases i know more about certain things, which can't be good! Good luck with yours though, im sure the courses your considering are much better than the one im on, theres 12 people in my class, and generally only about 10 in one go.
[/bitch]

[sleep]

someone got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning

[lefran]

lol nah, its just annoying when i have to spend the whole week there, and not actually benefiting much from being there! just wish you more luck than ive had with my course

[daveneale]

i dont have any recommendations, just hope you have more luck with your course that i'm having with mine, as nice as the tutors are, i really havent learnt anything, theres not really any teaching involved at all so im left to my own devices, which is ok by me i guess in a way because i can still produce portfolio work, but i have genuinely learnt more from CA than any form of art 'schooling' ive had so far. Its frustrating when you ask a question and they dont know the answer so waffle on about somthing non related just to appear to be teaching. In some cases i know more about certain things, which can't be good! Good luck with yours though, im sure the courses your considering are much better than the one im on, theres 12 people in my class, and generally only about 10 in one go.
[/bitch]


That sounds like my whole university degree....I know how that feels and as you say, there is the benefit of having total freedom, but it's pretty pathetic, esp considering the money they get...I too learned more from CA than I ever did in "education". Ah well, c'est la Vi, make the most of it-and enjoy all that time you get to draw, you never get all those empty days again:)

[jread]

i dont have any recommendations, just hope you have more luck with your course that i'm having with mine, as nice as the tutors are, i really havent learnt anything, theres not really any teaching involved at all so im left to my own devices, which is ok by me i guess in a way because i can still produce portfolio work, but i have genuinely learnt more from CA than any form of art 'schooling' ive had so far. Its frustrating when you ask a question and they dont know the answer so waffle on about somthing non related just to appear to be teaching. In some cases i know more about certain things, which can't be good! Good luck with yours though, im sure the courses your considering are much better than the one im on, theres 12 people in my class, and generally only about 10 in one go.
[/bitch]

Unfortunately, in my experience, this is generally the case with Degrees in the UK. At the end of the day you are working for 3 years for a piece of paper that gets you a foot in the door for interviews, thats it. Think of it like a driving test...you only really start learning how to drive once you've past and have gone out by yourself for the first time. Also its hard to find decent and experienced tutors because if you had the choice of working in your chosen field for a large salary, or teaching your chosen field for half that salary, which would you choose? So the people that didnt do too good at work will teach.

Dont let me scare you, this is a big generalisation caused by my own experience and others i know. Im sure not all degrees are like this, and in any case its worth going to Uni just to experience the uni lifestyle; partying and mingling with other arty types! :P

Last note....your portfolio will get you the work, not your degree. The degree is only a type of leverage over someone of equal skill applying for the same job.

p.s. I studied graphics BA(hons) in Surrey. 3 years was enough to know i didnt want to use my work to manipulate stupid people into buying crap products. Iv still got that useful leverage at the end of it though ;)

[koshime]

Long story short,
some art degrees may teach you some interesting theory and "accessory skills or shools of thought" but otherwise, all that free time should be cultivated to find yourself as an artist, maybe generate a stronger unique self/style and at the final year of the degree, have had a year of freelance experience and a solid portfolio to boost and already arranged an internship/work before graduation.


That at least is the ideal masterplan, so to summarise:


Foundation: Generate sufficient basic knowledge/skillset
University: Learn to play the game, know which teachers are prats, and those that can help you network with more knowledgable artists. All your future networking starts here, your future rivals, or peole in the industry. Its a VERY small world, strangely enough so dont piss too many folks off
Year 2: By this year, you should have started doing regular freelance work and if not, start doing so and approach various companies requring freelancers to complete/start their projects
Year 3: Portfolio assembling and concreting your skillset. 6 - 8 months prior to graduating, start applying for job interviews and ensuring your "piece of paper" is achievable.


At the end point you'll have either got a decent job in a startup or established company, or enjoyed all that freelancer work you go freelance solo. G luck! And live the dream! (at least make sure it pays as well!)

[Molly]

hahaha - Koshime, I like your set plan, but, you should've put at the end: *requires will power, and thick skin in case it doesnt go as planned*

..maybe we should start our own school...I bet we could fill it....

[koshime]

*requires will power, and thick skin in case it doesnt go as planned*

applies even if it DOES go to plan.

I guess, I assumed the parts about

1/ hard work
2/ diligent study
3/ some talent
4/ oodles of Luck (right place, right time, right network, right presentation of portfolio)

5/ most importantly, lifelong dogged determinance

but there you have it. The SECRET. oooooh!
Welcome to Life's catalog of how to be a artist.....:)

NB: (if you watched the secret, life is a large catalog of what you'd like to select - hmm, I'll have that fur coat, I'll have the nice car thank you, I am living that nice house, I am friends with paris hilton, Oh, and dine out with Dylan Cole whilst expousing the finer points of matte painting, and so forth...)

[cakeypigdog]

you know molly, joking aside, i think you are right in a way. There must be room in the UK for an art school that does things differently to what is currently offered over here in blighty. There are so many young artists that want and desire a more intense and skill based experience than the british degrees offer. I did mine in Fine Art, i worked very hard and had an amazing time, but i would have loved more tuition and skill development so much. I think the best skill my degree gave me was (a completely unfounded!) confidence.
I think if someone started up a course similar to the American ones available that it could be incredibly successful. Hell i would probably do another degree myself!

[vlad74]

Hello guys
My name is Vladimir. I've been doind drawing for a while(i am a 3d person :)) I would like to join your group. Do you have any requirements?

I live in south east London. New Eltham area.

[sleep]

yes, vlad.

we require the blood of twelve virgins, sacrificed to the dark one in an appropriate ritual upon the next full moon.

after this is complete, the clouds will part and your next path will become clear.

[jread]

yes, vlad.

we require the blood of twelve virgins, sacrificed to the dark one in an appropriate ritual upon the next full moon.

after this is complete, the clouds will part and your next path will become clear.

crap. I accidentally killed 13 virgins, does that mean I have to keep the last one? I hope Gordon 'the dark one' Brown doesn't mind :S

...you can definitely tell this is a British group!

btw Hi Vlad :) Im new on this group also. Im assuming your not born and bred British? (judging by your name that is?)

[Mon Chat]

GOOD NEWS!

(I had dificulty finding any virgins in aylesbury.)

oh, anyway! GOOD NEWS! -

I got another interview for foundation!, one at bournemouth... YAY!

Bournemouth and falmouth.

and some other places once ucas bends to my will.

[cakeypigdog]

my mate went to falmouth and had a good time on the fine art degree. It is suposed to be pretty dam good.

[sleep]

GOOD NEWS!

(I had dificulty finding any virgins in aylesbury.)

oh, anyway! GOOD NEWS! -

I got another interview for foundation!, one at bournemouth... YAY!

Bournemouth and falmouth.

and some other places once ucas bends to my will.

you dont apply to foundation courses thru ucas....

...i think?

koshime: thx man, nice that you took the time to explain this. i did have my suspicions about foundation, with the free time i should be getting im just work to grow shtloads with my art..

[koshime]

g luck tie...get somethign goood

[Molly]

you know molly, joking aside, i think you are right in a way. There must be room in the UK for an art school that does things differently to what is currently offered over here in blighty. There are so many young artists that want and desire a more intense and skill based experience than the british degrees offer. I did mine in Fine Art, i worked very hard and had an amazing time, but i would have loved more tuition and skill development so much. I think the best skill my degree gave me was (a completely unfounded!) confidence.
I think if someone started up a course similar to the American ones available that it could be incredibly successful. Hell i would probably do another degree myself!


:D- I'd be happy to start it, with a bit o' Lottery money and some industry sponsorship, we can rival those yanky tarts anyday.....(<--ssshhhhh! might get in trouble for saying that - dont tell on me!)

I mean, Irish International got away with it for years....I could buy myself a Baroness title over the net....

Mx

[vlad74]

btw Hi Vlad :) Im new on this group also. Im assuming your not born and bred British? (judging by your name that is?)

Hello Jread.No, I am not British. I am Bulgarian but have been here for the last 7 years.


I will see if I could find twelve virgins:)

[Mon Chat]

tie: its about 50/50

[Badger]

Koshime pretty much said it all!
And yes, i know nothing of camberwell and inner london foundations.
Atastrophea Hey man, where abouts are you?
dr-yes-no-and-maybe Mate Aylesbury is about 30mins from where my parents live and i grew up, i can't imagine it's good for promoting creative potential.
You guys been on the 280 much? :P

And i don't think Brizzle is too bad as far as art courses go, but i do have some awesome course mates to teach me a lot, so i can't support year on year. Ask MrMan for a more rounded opinion, he's just started.

Hope you are all well
-B-

[Mon Chat]

badger - oh, my mummy is doing an art instilation in aylesbury, and when i'ts done it'll be the biggest artwork of its type in Europe... WOO! you guys come see it?

[Atastrophea]

Hey hey :)

Well done on Falmouth and Bournemouth interviews Dr YN&M :D when are they? (we can all send you lucky luck vibes even if you don't need them ;) )

Tie - you were spot on with your CSM people guess, I was just trying not to sound judgemental and like a nice person, lol, but honestly some of them make you want to beat your head against a wall ;)

Badger, for the next ooooh, lets say 12 hours, that would be a tiny village in the middle of nowhere vaguely in the vicinity of Chipping Norton after that its back to Wombleland until easter holidays-woop woop! :)

I really wonder where they fit in time for teaching with all the enormously long holidays we have....ah I get it. "self directed study" duh.

[sleep]

Tie - you were spot on with your CSM people guess, I was just trying not to sound judgemental and like a nice person, lol, but honestly some of them make you want to beat your head against a wall ;)


was less of a guess because ive already been told by my teacher that some ual people are a bit up their own arses. but i guess a lot of art students are like that- i heard camberwell was worse and when i went for the open day they looked like a bunch of skinny jeaned, floppy fringed wankers. mind you that does include a few of my mates at camberwell.. but i wouldnt want to turn out like them anyway, they cant draw

regardless, 'pretentiousness' doesnt really bother me, the thing im most interested in is A. quality of teaching (traditional arts please) and B. social life

[Mon Chat]

oh shit, im wearing floppy jeans!... wait... skinny! noooo... but i did get grimaced at by a girl who said she was going to csm... so im not impressed.

both interviews are in febuary (12th for fal) (27th for bourne)

Scary.

but im pretty confident, my portfolio isent that killer... but im pretty chuffed with my sketchbooks...

thanks for the support!

[John.D]

Going by the good old http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=65644 thread, it seems you have made a good decision. Make sure your portfolio has a range of work in, but perhaps more importantly, sound keen in the interview. Talk about your work confidently, generally sound like your really up to the course. Where I go they care for work yes, but they cared more about how keen I was to do the course.

[David27]

Has anybody gone about organizing a sketch meet in the UK or is this the wrong topic? :)

[Mon Chat]

:0 that is so infinately useful... THANKYOU!

what i've got so far,

a keen attitude, I dont think there are any things I want to do more than foundation

artists what i like:
gormley.
keith thompson.
toulouse lautrec
BANKSY
richard billingham (a photographer)
annie leibovitz (the queen botherer)
Sketchling - because he told me about this thread.
there are more...


basicish computer painting skills...

A levels in both art and photography...

and a little book.

and a medium book...

and some stuff, people are helping me with my portfolio at school: mum - who is an artist, mrs bye - who is an art teacher, and one of my best friends becca who is also now a proffesional artist...

and if you guys would look through all i put on my sketchthread and help I would be eternally greatful.

TENSE!
but chilled, yeah?

[John.D]

Make sure you mention about the family and friend artist links. They will want to hear this.

[John.D]

Your sketchbook thread is looking good, keep posting. Make sure you take stuff to the interview that isn't related to your sixth form work. They will want to see that you are dedicated to art work in your free time too (clearly you are).
Do you have any 3d or photography based work? Take that too.
Remember it's a foundation course. You will learn more about art and about yourself than you ever have done, and you will be able to focus on your specialist subject (usually in the second half of the course (where I am now) the first half is basically trying out all the subjects - generally fine art, photography - graphics (sometimes connected), fashion/textiles and 3d design - some colleges/universities have more). You will typically get free reign to do what you want to do (yes, you can put all the 'fantasy isn't art' crap behind you). Just enjoy it.

And if you get into Bournemouth you have Quicksilver to guide you around, that can't be too bad can it? :)

[sleep]

also mention CA- i mean, the fact that you hang out with a thriving community of amateurs and very professionals alike is quite relavent. if you havent been to one of the meets so far just lie and say you have. we usually go to a gallery or museum, and go to the pub and/or nandos. you can leave out the pub/nandos bit

also thanks for the wisdom people, this is helping me too; im also in the whole foundation course bit

[amer-nazri]

Tie: Hey! I'm doing foundation at Camberwell atm, and true, there are quite a number of skinny jeaned, floppy fringed.....people, but if you can look past those floppy fringes, they are ok. Unfortunately I cant say the same about their art though, its just......different. But there are usually 1 or 2 people (I have 120 fellow illustrators in my class), whose work make me go 'yay, I'm not alone'.

p/s: I'm new to this thread. Hello. I'm Malaysian born, but have been residing in London for 8 years of my 18 year life.

[koshime]

Another Malaysian....welcome homeland fellow

[amer-nazri]

koshime: Hey! Cheers, didn't know you are Malaysian. Really like your work, I've been reading your space battle tutorial in the January issue of ImagineFX, really really educational.