United Kingdom

[Badger]

Yeah, I think I'm up for a TDome. Just as long as we dont have the same judges as the LMS. :nohope:

I suggest merely writing UK entry, and our against entry, with no handles, cause as Last man standing shows, bias is all over the place.

Oh and shall i wonder over to the scandanavian thread and give them what for?
-B-

[Midnight]

Yeah, what happened there?

[cartoonfox]

Sorry again Christian for not turning up. I was really looking forward to it.
I have to get a root canal on one of my teeth. Who knew a toothache would turn into this.
I might just have the tooth taken out (it's the back one on my lower right jaw so it won't be seen) root canal scares the shit out of me.

[Dirty C]

heh. i'm sure it's not too bad, dude. they have EXCELLENT painkillers nowadays :P

there is actually a scandinavian thread? sure, go for it!

and what's everyone talking about with LMS? didn't see what happened there..

[Badger]

there is actually a scandinavian thread? sure, go for it!

ITS DONE!
-B-

[Ni*]

not posted here in aaaaaages but i thought i'd let people in the edinburgh area know about a sketch group/art class that is running in the cafe royal bar (upstairs in the function suite) on sundays.
i have nothing to do with the running of it but i was there today and £4 let me draw a very obliging burlesque model for 3 hours, a great time drawing was had by all. It's running for the next 2 sundays anyway so if you're in the area i suggest you go along so it's popular enough to keep it going.

it's called Dr Sketchy

http://www.myspace.com/drsketchyscotland

http://www.myspace.com/drsketchyscotland

hope to see some of you there next week

N

[lefran]

i have a job interview ,for a small 1 screen cinema local to me, tomorrow, if i get it hopefully i can quit my other job and stop moaning to you lot at how shit my manager and job is lol
wish me luck!

[james]

good luck. who likes working at woolworths anyway?

[Badger]

Continue thunderdome conversation HERE (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1099251#post1099251)

Um, yeah.
Good luck fran.
-B-

[duddlebug]

Hey Badger! Good call on the thunderdome. I know we're supposed to continue anything thunderdome in the challenge arena, but i can say what i like about vikings here and they won't be able to see it because this is the UK thread and they won't come here will they? Huh? Huh?

For starters, i reckon all their horns have gone floppy. (No holds barred with my insults, Yeh!) When i'm feeling rally brave i might pop over to the challenge thread and say something equally confrontational there............. :$

I've been quiet on CA for ages and ages with general busy-ness, so it'll be fun to wrestle some swedes in a tdome!

[Badger]

Hey Badger! Good call on the thunderdome. I know we're supposed to continue anything thunderdome in the challenge arena, but i can say what i like about vikings here and they won't be able to see it because this is the UK thread and they won't come here will they? Huh? Huh?

Wasn't my idea i just took the reigns a bit, i hope that was ok with everyone, i don't want to be standing on anyone's toes. I don't weigh much though, as you know i'm not too big.

Jonny, good to see you are with us, your stuff rules. I'd love too see a Sketchbook update (pretty please).

-B-

[duddlebug]

I'd love too see a Sketchbook update (pretty please).


Cheers Mr.Badger....

I've been thinking of updating my sketchbook for a while, but i seem to have been too busy with proper work (that's mostly covered up with NDA's) to do much personal stuff. I've got together a few sketches recently though, so i'll try and update later in the week. And there's quite a few IFX sketches and roughs that could be worth posting and i think it's ok once they've been published..?

And i've already done a very quick doodle for the thunderdome! But i can't show that until the 6th December! :^^:

Also...

C'MoN you brits!! The scandinavians are filling their team up!! We've gotta give them a good hiding and send them off to Valhalla with their floppy horns firmly inserted!!

[lefran]

had the interview today, they were talking about my "impressive CV", and things like when they were writing after i said something they said words to the effect of "dont worry we only write things if you say somehting impressive", i thought the interview went really well too, i said everything theyd want to hear and more really and they said theyd ring the people who had the job the same day, and send apology letters to those who dont during the week, and she asked for my mobile number- which i got my phone out to give her- and she was joking like " if youd known your number you could have the job there and then! hahaha" etc,

no phone call
grrrrr

[Badger]

And i've already done a very quick doodle for the thunderdome! But i can't show that until the 6th December! :^^:

Already!? madness, he he. Has anyone considered who they might call out or are we waiting for it all to even out?

I haven't been buying IFX, i'm a poor student and it's the same price as 6 pints down the local or half food for a week, he he.

-B-

[Dirty C]

had the interview today, they were talking about my "impressive CV", and things like when they were writing after i said something they said words to the effect of "dont worry we only write things if you say somehting impressive", i thought the interview went really well too, i said everything theyd want to hear and more really and they said theyd ring the people who had the job the same day, and send apology letters to those who dont during the week, and she asked for my mobile number- which i got my phone out to give her- and she was joking like " if youd known your number you could have the job there and then! hahaha" etc,

no phone call
grrrrr

Hahahaha shit! So close and yet so far! Still, good story young un :P

Badger - buy the beer. It's not up to the par of the FF section here.

[Midnight]

He's not the only one with a doodle... He probably is the only one with a workable doodle, though... :tihi:

No plans to call anyone out, yet. I'll probably just see how it pans out.

[Badger]

Aefx and mr digs are you in? i haven't seen your names in the thread.

DC, the louvre isn't as good as the FF section here :P
-B-

[Dirty C]

AEFX said he was up for it here ('http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1096488&postcount=5747').

[DannySketch]

dam....i gotta admit i think ive bitten off more than i can chew, i need to learn how to paint VARY quickly

[lefran]

hence why im not entering lol

[Midnight]

It's a good way to learn... which is why I've entered!

Mid.

[lefran]

actually i guess i could enter with something hand drawn
thats if i actually have time with all the essays people enjoy giving me to do

[Quicksilver]

I'd like to sign up but I think it would be better for me to focus on finishing projects for college :s Hardly keeping up wth this course...Saying that, I gotsa Distinction for [2 1/2 night's worth of] Fashion so that's cool :D

Must try not to let that get to me 'ead......o_o;

U-K MASS-IVE, GO GO GO!!!! :cheerleader:

[lefran]

come on if i putmy name down you can!

[james]

im too scared. and also would be doing it in vectoryness and not sure that would go down well. josh has been helping me think it over and has an idea of what i would be doing. and i still amn't going to do it. sorry.

[Midnight]

What are you scared of?

Mid.

[james]

getting trounced...

[mrdigs]

Aefx and mr digs are you in? i haven't seen your names in the thread.

Just put my name down, haven't really had internet since Friday so this is the first chance I've had.

I've got the fear ! heheh.

[Badger]

Quicksilver, get in dammit!

[lefran]

im so pissed off rightnow
fucking failed my driving test because i hit the curb on a reverse round the corner- that was it
and i didnt get the job after all
what the fuck else is gonna go wrong
dunno if im gonna do the TD after coz i cant find anyone!


[/bitchfit]

[aph]

Aw lefran, that really sucks about your test.
Don't worry, it can happen to everyone on the day, just put it down to nerves and believe you can do it next time. As for jobs, well, its a lot harder than it seems sometimes, even with experience and a good interview, just keep annoying people til they give you a job.

[Midnight]

Badger - what's the plan for uploading finished UK vs Scandinavia pics?

I haven't used the uploader before, and Photobucket's only allowing 800x600 pics (in case you want me to upload, then send you the link). Can anyone suggest a free file host that'll allow me to go over that size?

Thanks,
Mid.

[Badger]

I'll post in thread soon, it'll be the standard e-mail your link too me.

imageshack might be worth a go, i'm almost certain it does. file lodge maybe? if that fails just e-mail it too me and i'll upload it from there.

-B-

[Quicksilver]

Quicksilver, get in dammit!
Aww man.....there are a lot of big shots entering this......Alright, I'll give it a go. Might go traditional this time though since I finally have a card reader which reads my card!! (Stupid xD-M things...)
Don't really know any of them though. Will check out people's SBs on monday.

Edit: Just read some more of the TD thread. Looking for an opponent now...

Fran: Sorry to hear about that. Don't give up though! Not everybody passes the first time (and those who do are often worse drivers, apparently :rolleyes: ;))

[Midnight]

Thanks, Badger. I'll check out file lodge and imageshack and see if they look good.

Mid.

[lefran]

haha all i seem to do these days is post comments about how annoyed i am lol

sorry guys!

ive rebooked my test now, and i know ill be fine :)

[lefran]

Really intresting programme on BBC1 now, facial deformities in children

like huge tumors and absesses on their face, and theyre showing the surgery

this one kid, they just showed his operation, they basically cut his face off, peeled back the skin, cut a piece of his skull out, then exposed the brain, and transfered some of the tissue into his cheek for some reason, was horrible! but intresting

i suggest you put it on if your intrested in that kind of thing! weird anatomy etc


This is one boy called arianto who has this huge tumour on his face
http://www.facingtheworld.net/newsdetails.asp?nid=62

watch it people!

[Rhynome]

I've never posted here before, so I might as well do so now.
1. Children in Need:
QI at 22:00 on BBC2,
Main Event at 22:35 on BBC... TERRY WOGAN!

2. http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/juggle/ just sign it and pass it around. I'd love to imagine the effect if this gets into the thousands of signatures.

Though mainly, just check out Children in Need, go on, you know you want to. Entertainment and for a good cause (other than entertaining me that is, but that's also a damn good cause).

[DavidCousens]

Fran: Don't worry about the driving test, I passed on my second attempt. I failed on reversing around a corner too! Nailed it the second time though :) Once you pass, you can ride up as many kerbs as you like! ;)

[lefran]

thanks :) haha i think i will. just coz i can =]

(naomi, specially for you if i give you a lift =D)

[Krystallwolvelt]

im so pissed off rightnow
fucking failed my driving test because i hit the curb on a reverse round the corner- that was it
and i didnt get the job after all
what the fuck else is gonna go wrong
dunno if im gonna do the TD after coz i cant find anyone!


[/bitchfit]
Don't exactly know what kind of job you are applying for but I feel the same way as you do, getting a job is a total pain the ass, I've been going from place to for about 1-6 hours a day for the right job for me and so far I've got no luck also I'm not to suprised either because we are getting close to December and loads of people need money to buy Xmas gifts.

getting trounced...
I wouldn't even dream of meeting someone online anyway, not unless its someone I know very well by using webcam.

I have no fear of getting attacked really but I don't go looking for beef.

:lens:

[lefran]

it was only part time work every evening in a local cinema by me, its just the job i have right now really sucks, and its difficult for me to get time off

aaah but us Ukers are nice really, you should come meet us at the next meet

[[void]]

Just thought i'd let everyone know i was tired of being the guardian of ass so ive had a name change. ^_^

[Midnight]

That never occured to me.

I still can't make any sense of Krystallwolvelt's response to James post...

Mid (or quite possibly diM).

[[void]]

I think he's just misread and thinks that james is thinking of meeting up with someone as opposed to thinking about being in the t'dome with them.

[james]

yeah, crossed wires there. not saying that i'm not afraid of meeting you up with all you guys. everytime i attend a meet i wee myself a little in petrified silence...

oh and heh, guardian of ass...

[Mr Man]

Aww dude what will we do without an asguardian now..I will be defensless against "anal suprise"

Lol sorry im in a totally random mood..probably overtired.:[

[koshime]

getting married in 8 hours. Woohoo!

[Dirty C]

Congratulations Chi!!

[[void]]

Yeah congratulations. Wish you all the best.

[Kian]

All the best man :yayca:

[Badger]

Congrats!! Have a great day!
-B-

[Quicksilver]

Congrats, Chee!!

[Midnight]

Congratulations!

Mid.

[lefran]

congratulations!

[koshime]

Thanks guys! we had a great extravagant time.
Sketchling was a great usher, with an intresting photo shoot session with a stark raving frenchmen, who was creative to say the least.


Once I have had time to process a few images, I'll spam the forums...

[DavidCousens]

Congratulations mate. I've got all of that to look forward to on August the 1st!
Glad it went well for you! :D

[Quicksilver]

Heya guys,

just letting you know that my college is gonna have a London trip on Thursday 7th December, but we'll be leaving at 5:30pm!
If enough people can make it then I might consider staying a bit longer and buy a single train ticket or something.

Shout out if you're free then. :)

~~Naomoo x

[Dirty C]

The 7th..? Hm, see what I can do.

Edit: how's everyone's tdome entry coming? Think we're all a bit slack at starting - at least, everyone I've spoken to has been. Been sketching some ideas, but nothing any further than that so far.

[DannySketch]

bah same dc to be honest mate i have no idea how im gonna colour it, o_0

got an idea at least,

EDIT:oh and a late congrats chi!:)

[Kian]

There's no way I can avoid sounding like a swot when I say I've basically finished. Just holding back handing it in to see if anything bothers me later on. Might as well make use of the time eh.

[yAdam]

congratulations chee!!!!

Started the TD on sunday. Hopefully i'll finish it sometime this week. At the moment i'm alternating between that and my calendar entry.

[Midnight]

I began work on mine straight away, but I'm deliberately not rushing this one (something I've done many times before, and screwed up every time). I reckon I've broken the back of it, and it's now mainly down to fixing details, cleaning things up and noodling around. It'll be done in time, no problems. As for the content... the best I can say is I've learned a huge amount from trying to paint it (given my utter lack of ability to use or understand colour or value!).

Kian - swot! :)

Mid.

[lefran]

naomi: know if theres any spaces left? my mam said i can go, so ill put my name down tomorrow if there is

edit: naomi, what would you like for christmas? i have to do all my shopping online this year as i have no time what so ever, im guessing youd rather something you need rather than something random id end up getting you, if you find any links to what youd like let me know, if not if i go to london i could get you something there, or if you dont want something art related asos.com is amazing

[lefran]

oh and for the td, im editing my sketch, hopefully ill start inking before long

[Quicksilver]

Christian: True. I've settled on an idea for mine at least. Just trying to get everything else done, tbh.

Jon: Swot ;P

Fran: Yeah, there should be spaces left - I don't think it was attacked as quickly as the Amsterdam trip so it's cool. :)
Mmmmnot sure about what I want for Christmas yet. I've written a list of slightly more expensive stuff for my family, hehe, but can't think of much else. Will get back to you on that one. :)
How about you?

[lefran]

i really dont have much money so i can spend around spend around 15 tops? if you think of anything let me know

[aph]

Quicksilver: 7th Dec sounds cool to me. What time is your college getting up to London for? I have life drawing that Thursday morning, but I can get to london by early afternoon, so .. it'd be awesome to meet up with some other people who draw! Its hard to meet anyone even slightly enthusiastic it seems recently. Let us know on any updates =]

[Quicksilver]

For the 7th December, we'll be arriving in London around 9:30am. You guys don't necessarily HAVE to meet up then (since most of us are hardly morning people) but if you want to then you know I (and maybe Fran, if she's booked a place) will be around then. :)

We leave at 5:30pm, but if loads of you will be coming then I'll see about booking a later ticket via train or something.

Will post details on CA UK 3.0 later on if some more interest brews.

[DannySketch]

hmmm wish i could make it but i have college till 6 on a thursday!dam photography lessons, shame it would have been cool to meet up, also just on a side not i went to that ucas art fair thing, it was kinda overwhelming lots of unis and was hard to see through all the bells and whistles they were throwing your way to the actual quality of the course, from what i could see though bristol and falmouth are the best options (however if i hadnt of gone to bristol open day i wouldnt have known, thier booth at the fair was tiny, which makes me think that there could be a couple more i over looked)

[lefran]

i need to give in my consent form tomorrow, hopefully ill get a place then can anyone else meet up in london on the 7th?

[DannySketch]

hey guys just wondering, theres alot of talk about how this sanfran workshop could be the last one for a while, its making me nervous, it would be tight as hell but maybe i could JUST squeeze in getting the money, but i just wouldnt have a clue about travel, accomadatin or anything.who from the uk is going?and those people who were thinking about italy, any of u ave the money now?i suppose the only thing stopping me apart from dedbt is leaving the countrie on my own:S

[Mr Man]

hey guys just wondering, theres alot of talk about how this sanfran workshop could be the last one for a while, its making me nervous, it would be tight as hell but maybe i could JUST squeeze in getting the money, but i just wouldnt have a clue about travel, accomadatin or anything.who from the uk is going?and those people who were thinking about italy, any of u ave the money now?i suppose the only thing stopping me apart from dedbt is leaving the countrie on my own:S

Hey man I heard that too, Its really scaring me now. Ive been saving up for months now for italy, only got about 450 quid..Its upsetting because ive been so patient spending very little of my earnings. I dont know whether to keep saving, spend it, or sell a kidney for san fran. Itll be almost impossible for me to afford san fran, especially with the little time we have...*sigh*

*runs off to buy 400 lottery tickets*

[sketchling]

hmmm. I aint got no choice. Im in South africa during that time. I just hope i get time there to work on thid thunderdome against the nordic folks. havent had a second thus far and i fly tomorrow.

Still not had a moment. Im going to try, but I dont know if im gonna be able to do anything...wait. ill have a tablet. on my journey...and lots of plane time... i sense a cunning plan... :D

[Quicksilver]

Bastards! I've been looking forward to the Italy WS for ages! >:{ What's going on? Are they too busy to do it anymore? 'Cause they're actually getting funding from us now (t-shirts, DVDs, etc.) Not happy....

Also, I won't be around much due to crazy sort-of-personal reasons beyond my control. o_o Hopefully things will get back to normal in time for the TD.

Gotta dash,

~~Naomi xxx

[asoir]

I wouldn't say bastards...

[Dirty C]

The thing with Italy is that they never announced anything. It sucks if it doesn't happen, but I think the thing is that they put a lot of effort and time into the workshops, and at times it's meant that MB has had to take a back seat. They've had long periods of non profitability, and with their business model, that's not a great thing. And as for funding, well, ca.org has always required funding from MB. Even when jason was making zero money, he was paying for this site out of his own pocket and not accepting advertising. People have offered to buy him out a few times, and he's refused any offer, no matter how high.

Danny, I'll be in SF. I think I may be the only one this time, but honestly, don't worry about it. You make friends with whoever's in your room etc. It's just like the uk meets, only way bigger and lasts way longer. I don't think I can remember anyone complaining of having difficulty meeting friendly people there before.

[Kian]

Come on marco, let her vent bro. This is the quiet little place on all of CA where we can say whatever we want :) And should say whatever we want.
Its true, this is gutting if it really is the last workshop. But then shit happens. I know one thing though. It wont stop everyone meeting up and learning from each other. Look at the recent Brussels trip Kim and Chee went on. [was it brussels?] That looked great. Yeah, jason and the crew maybe the famous clique, but we have some serious pros in the UK alone!
And another thing. I'd prefer to buy Marko's dvd and rewind, study, and learn, than watch him do it once and forget half of it. Im not gonna pay all that cash just to say "Hi Marko, I think you're top :D"
My problem with it all is that they wont say for definite whats happening. Yeah I can understand, but to drop that bombshell as a way to make Insomania sound beyond anything ever before, [even it is], is wrong I think. And I'd love to go to SanFran, but I know I havent got a prayer.
But I'd still love to go to Italy. My ticket's there and waiting.

[DannySketch]

cheers DC to be honest i really dont mind meeting new people its just little things like having no clue where to go when i get to the airport there, i have stupid visions of myself wondering around San Francisco feebly holding a sketchbook out to passers by with some manic grin on my face for 3 days!its does look as if i'll def be going, even if it will mean some MAJOR sacrafices on my part...and i do mean major:(
i feel your pain naomi and jon, pissed me off summet cronic when i first saw it, but i kinda 'need' to go, its gonna be a great propellant into portfolio building for university and if italy dosent happen i cant see myself having enough money to go to one for a long time after this.

[Mr Man]

From the powers that be I miiight be able to get there. But im not getting my hopes up. Flights seem pretty reasonable, 350 pound except I have to change at chicago. I sure hope the hostel isnt booked out!
Ive never been on a plane on my own before so this is going to be a huge leap. Ive never been in america before and Ive never been to a workshop. Im seriously gonna come back with one major heart condition hehe.

Im really sacrificing alot for this. My job doesnt allow holidays around xmas so im most likley going to lose this job from buggering off to san fran.
So paying off the loan will be a little difficult...:S

Does anyone know how much I shall need for food? I have no idea on the prices. I dont mind eating rats all week as long as I dont have more money to break into.

[Quicksilver]

Come on marco, let her vent bro. This is the quiet little place on all of CA where we can say whatever we want :) And should say whatever we want.
Cheers, bro :)

Yeah, had a bit of a shitty weekend. Dunno if I can share the info online or not, so I'll leave it for now. All I can say is that I (temporarily) no longer have my computer, laptop, printer, scanner, wacom tablet, card reader, webcam....you get the idea. Dunno when I'll be getting them back either. Luckily, they didn't take my dad's laptop (the one I'm using now).

Anyhoo, the CA UK 3.0 thread has been updated with details of the next meet. Just yell out if you can/think you can make it. :) Fran and I will only be around 'til 5:30pm, unfortunately.

the link to the thread is in my sig.

~~Naomoo x

[koshime]

hey guys. Sorry to hear the workshop issues are getting folk down.
Honestly, I think although the workshops are great, the lack of attending one do not sound the death knell of things.

There is definately an annual brussels 3 day workshop for the cost of a eurostar ticket and norm around 70 euros or less. 9often coupled with an extended camping trip)

Also, UK has an amazing plethora of pros here and some great rising stars.
With our regular-ish meets. There is nothing stopping us from becoming better and better through CA or non ca occasion (just meeting in a bar on a weekend is sufficient sometimes just to pass time, vent, etc *grin*)

One thing I'd certaintly recommend is the on-line workshops hosted at CGS. They run over 8 weeks, run by some of the best industry pros. That's one alternative to the (exorbitantly expensive CA workshops -seriosuly - they're overpriced but the ambience is great!)

Namie > Put your best foot/paint brush forward!

[Mr Man]

Hey folks, Im very thankful im able to go to san fran. Though Im not gonna rub it in or anything because its just uncalled for and I know how much it means to everyone.
I havent been very productive latley and I really want to bring some kind of portfolio to the workshop. Does anyone have a rough idea on what sort of work to bring?

Btw if anyone is ever around birmingham ish area just drop us a bell and say hello :)

[DannySketch]

dude work your ass off, the way i see it there shall be hundreds of people at this workshop who are far better than me, its the most motivational way of getting myself to work in a long while, i know 2 weeks wont be enough time to make myself a pro, but i love trying.

Naomi, really sorry to hear that mate, hope everything will sort out ok, if whats happened is what i think has happened, then i know what its like and it sucks like hell.

Koshime, cheers bro, needed to hear that at the mo.

[[void]]

I have major doubts that this is going to be the last workshop, considering the response they got about italy and the amount of time that they had been talking about it, it dosnt make any sense not too. Plus from what i hear there has been talk of ending workshops way before this which hasnt ever happened obviously. I get the feeling that it might be just to generate more interest for this workshop.

[yAdam]

Yeah, even if its later than april, or whenever Jason said it was likely to be, it will probably still happen.

Didn't realise people were gonna be around in London all day next week. I may be able to make it, not sure yet though.

BTW, now that its official, well done christian!!! :)

[Midnight]

Congratulations, Christian!

Mid.

[Dirty C]

Oh, they announced it?

**where?**

[sketchling]

Well Congrats if it is dude! :)

Koshime : Great pics!! funny. love the frencgh guy 'dancing his stuff'

On a crap note though, im lettin ya all down on the thunderdome side :( sorry guys, its just been too hectic with freelance work, coming to SA and now driving off to a 5 day river rafting thing. Just should not have taken it on. :P

anyways, go go gadget christian. Hope it really IS official. you deserve it dude.

[Kian]

Nice one DC!!! Big props and good luck.

[Dirty C]

Cheers everyone. Found the thread - feel free to go big me up :D:D

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=83267

[james]

well done Christian. well impressed. everyone else on it is sooo good. too. as well as you obviously... ahem.

[DannySketch]

ha mate you really do deserve it, sucks that the UK groups losing ya but DAM think of the stuff your gonna be producing in 2 years time :x

[koshime]

Congratulations DirtyC. you deserved it!

Kim > glad you enjoyed your pictures. Of which (I have a WHOLE host more. muah hahahahaha)

Badger > seeing as no one has really pitched up, I'm going to withdraw from the TD, and focus on my medical studies and online courses (participated/overseeing at CGS)

It'd be nice to see everyone before christmas!
If not, all the best and happy festivities!

[lefran]

Hey naomi, can i possibly stay over wednesday night please? as i wont have my car as i am about to explain
and have a bitch fit as which is characteristic of my posts


Weeeeell
i retook my driving test today and the bastard failed me for something that i know for a fact that i didnt do! I had 2 minors over all and your allowed 15- so does that sound like im a bad driver to you guys?! and those 2 were really petty! THe instructor reckons that at a stop junction ( where you have to come to a complete stop even if theres no traffic) that i pulled out and caused another car to slow down.
WHICH I DIDNT!
this was the only stop junction on the test route i did, and i can remember it well for that reason, and i know for a fact that i didnt pull out in front of anything, i have never ever done that before if anthing i hesitate, and i can remember that junction and i made sure there werent any cars there, if there was a car it was down the road and i wouldnt have pulled out in front of it, i 100% had time to go at any rate, and if i had pulled out, i would have been the first one to say oh crap, i know ive failed now, i would accept it, like my first test, i hit the curb, i knew i failed, and i accept that because it was my fault, but im just so angry with this guy because i didnt do it!
my instructor was annoyed to coz he knows i wouldnt do that! and he said hes gonna sit in the back of the car for my next test to witness it and make sure they dont do that again to me!
its annoying because its going to cost me £80 to retake it, and i have to wait another 10 days until i can take it
What is really unfair, is the fact that you can have 15 minors in your test and pass, and yet i had 2 and i fail, how is that fair at all? A girl in my english class had the same thing happen to her where her examiner failed her for the exact same thing when she didnt do it
Very very annoyed


So naomi, thats why i cant get to college to catch the bus from there as buses dont run that early
so would that be ok?

[yAdam]

Fran, that well harsh. Getting only 2 minors is great and you should definately not be able to fail with getting only those 2. You can fail if you get 1 major I think, so maybe you got one for the examiner thinking you made the car slow down?? There's no way you can change the result now, but surely if you get 2 minors, you pass, without question. Your examiner was a bastard!

[lefran]

yeah it classes as a minor- but i didnt even do it, there was no car to make slow down - im not in denial or anything because if the car was there i would be the first to say i did it- im my own worst critic, and i know i dont deserve to have failed

but thanks anyway! and yes HE WAS A BASTARD! :)

[aph]

Ah that sucks ass. My instructor told me of a girl that failed for going on at a give way when the give way marks are actually non existant and there are no signs.. and another for waiting too long for someone to cross the pedestrain crossing. They are so harsh sometimes. You can do it, just a matter of time.

[Midnight]

Fran - deep, full breaths, in through the nose, out through the mouth.

Mid.

[lefran]

ta aph, and midnight, im fine lol just a bit angry but thanks anyway hehe

[Mr Man]

Congratulations DC, you had better sprinkle your uber knowledge to us after 2 years :P Hehe nah we'll just have to work for it >:|

[Quicksilver]

Fran: Ouch! Sorry to hear that :S; Such an arse...at least you'll have your instructor there next time 'cause that's just taking the piss.
And of course, you're welcome to stay over whenever you like :) Things have been a bit hectic and stressy over here too...a bit more relaxed now though (ish).

Danny: If it doesn't involve the police being dickheads, then no, it's not what you think.

Think I'll have to back out of the TD too, which sucks 'cause I had a good idea for it. Really, I've nothing here to transfer it to - no scanner or card reader (damn xD-M memory cards...) and things have been so fucking fustrating lately I've hardly done anything for college.

/rant

On a more positive note: CONGRATULATIONS, CHRISTIAN~!!! ^_^

[DannySketch]

ah shucks, well i hope it all gets sorted anyway,

fran thats really crappy also, like aph said, you'll get there in the end, just try to get an instructor that isnt a complete ass, i hear they exist, some where...in story books...

[RES]

Congrats DC on the SF Gig it couldn't have happen to a nicer guy, wish I could make it to the workshop as celebratory drinks are certainly called for.

[DavidCousens]

Well done Chris, you really deserve it mate :D

[trev]

Congrats mr C :)


Thought Ide share

http://www.bigredbutton.tv/peace

[aph]

Hey lefran / Quicksilver / dirty_c!

London tomorrow? Came about pretty quick lol. Well let me know if you guys are gonna be around or not. I know there is the meet scheduled but still, just checking up. I won't be around in London until about 1:30-2:00. I will pm you all with some contact info. =) Have fun whatever happens!

[aefx]

Finally got internet access at home. Hopefully I'll be able to contribute a bit to this thread. In the mean time I need to get working on my entry for the Tdome thread... work has been too busy for me lately to do much else.

I'm just a newb but here's some stuff of mine:
http://protean-carrier.com/images/myspace/myface.jpg
http://protean-carrier.com/images/design/citydream.jpg
http://protean-carrier.com/images/design/protean.jpg
http://protean-carrier.com/images/design/protcardesign.jpg

[Quicksilver]

aph: Yup yup, we're still meeting up :) Info is linked in my sig.

See ya soon, guys!

~~Naomi

[lefran]

look who has a secret identity
... (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ASGARDIAN-Young-Avengers-MARVEL-LEGENDS-Loose_W0QQitemZ190060200885QQihZ009QQcategoryZ4901 8QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotoho sting)

i saw a box of 4 characters the other day in work and i had to double back, its the same spelling and everything hehe the one in work had short dark hair as well! wowif its on ebay it must be true

[Delephynite]

Um, hey. I'm new and also from the UK. Um, yup :)

[Quicksilver]

Heya, Delephynite. Welcome aboard :)

[Dirty C]

Hey, this reminds me - where were the banh bao??

And welcome delephynite. Aefx - saw most of that stuff when we met. Definitely interesting stuff. The plans one seems to only be half the pic though..?

[lefran]

welcome delephynite, hope to see you at some up and coming meets

oh....and about the banh bao....um....naomi...didnt make any.....:^^;: :x

[koshime]

paos are hard to make..ish....
plus there is the cooling factor to account for.
Thats why, we buy them from shops (easier)

[Molly]

Welcome Delephynite!

Man, Im a bad girl, I have not been here in ages :(
Sorry...

Hope alls well...and that we is gonna smack them Scandinavians...:)

ALSO - Congratulations DC!! You've worked so damn hard, you deservve a place at the CA school. You will sorely be missed, BUT you'll do us all proud!

Mx

[Quicksilver]

Hey, this reminds me - where were the banh bao??
We er, kinda.....forgot about them. ^_^; You can buy them from chinese supermarkets, but they'll taste different to my mum's, and you probably won't find any with pork, egg and noodles.

Welcome back, Mollz :)

[koshime]

hmm. strange combo.
Normal lpork and egg, chicken, chicken, mushroom and egg...but noodles??

[aefx]

Well, I entered my tdome submission. Really unsatisfied with it though, it's not finished as I only spent two days on it. Between work and getting married last week I had no time to work on it. Oh well, maybe next time.

[koshime]

Congrats on getting married!
(got hitched recently myself!)

Sent my TD in but was unhappy with composition/colour

[Dirty C]

Congrats AEFX! And congrats to anyone who got their td in as well. Oh yeah, feel free to suggest some judges hahaha

[Midnight]

Delephynite, welcome.

Congratulations aefx.

Mid.

[[void]]

I think that the uk group have done themselves proud in the t-dome. Congrats to all that got their entries in.

[DannySketch]

really well done guys and gals, sorry for letting the side down, all awesome, Fran, eri and DC's really stood out to me though

bravo

[aefx]

Thanks guys, my wife is still in the states but will finally be here at the end of the month. So excited :)

[[void]]

I always wondered about those mail order bride things. Can't say i havnt been tempted.

[aefx]

Haha, no I moved to the UK from the states this summer. We've been apart for about six months now, seems like an eternity.

[Quicksilver]

Aww, congratulations, James! :D

Great work, everyone who entered the TD. Soz for letting you guys down. :(

Christmas is looming, ooOOooo....

[lefran]

cheers danny!
all uk entries look great =]

[Summer Pudding]

I say chaps, that Parisian johnny m@ has suggested we take on the Frenchies in a TD. There's a wealth of talent across the channel, and I think it could be a wizard wheeze. What say you lot?

Pete

PS: Christian, our paths never seem to cross on MSN do they? I forget to log off at hometime. When are you off to the US? Have I missed all the tearful goodbyes?

If I have, fill yer boots, and show 'em how its done mate.

Pete <again>

[Midnight]

Bloody hell... another international TD...

Ah well, memories of Agincourt! Conjure the spirit of Henry V and let's have at them! Longbows and billhooks all round!

Mid.

[Eriboss]

congrats to everyone that got their TD in.

Petey, I would most definatley be up for a bit of frenchy whippin'

That also spawned the most ridiculous of idea off too - wait for it...
THE FIRST CONCEPTART.ORG WORLD NATION ARMY LAST MAN STANDING THUNDERDOME CUP where ENTIRE nations join together and fight other nations until just 2 nations remain. Both enter.. only one will surviveee !! bwahah
kinda like the world cup but with art and blood and stuff teehee

anyway.

Eri

[Dirty C]

A world cup does sound like a good idea. How'd it be sorted though? Country of Origin? That'd be the most fair for a start. Though of course the kiwis wouldn't make it past the group stage :S But it'd definitely be cool to see Marco with the Germans, HPX with the French, and alla you lot. The kiwis would get Rusty and schlo-mo I guess, so that's not so bad :) It'd come down to the yanks and the French, I reckon.

Pete, yeah, you've missed the festivities, mate. There's been a hell of a lot of them though. Still having farewell dinners and lunches and shit till the second I leave. I honestly have no shot at really getting my packing done in time, but fuck it, I'll just fill some black sacks up with shit and ditch it I guess. Adam, Cai, if either of you want any of those toys, PLEASE COME AND GET THEM. There's bugger all chance I'm taking them with me.

I will probably have a few drinks round my place on Thursday night, in an attempt to be tired on the flight (come on max strength night time flu drugs hehehe) so I can sleep before I get there and have to be up for 3 days for Insomania. Molly, Cai, Adam, Pete if you're about, get in touch if you think you can make it.

Gonna miss you lot.

[aefx]

What, no hospitality night out? :nohope:

[Dirty C]

Dude, I know. I'm outta here too fast!

[[void]]

Shit im off to wales for a bit and I dont know how long i'll be. Im leaving tonight but I'll do my best to see if i can make it back for thursday afternoon.
You're gonna be sorely missed dude.

[lefran]

oooh which bit? actuallee all of wayals is luvleee hehe
and actually raining constantly these days
i say these days i mean every day

[[void]]

newport and with that im off

[Quicksilver]

You're coming to Newport?? o.O Gimme a call if you wanna hang out, unless out have other plans (most likely).

Chris: Gonna miss ya! Don't stray away from us, time zones or no time zones :P

[guggemmaneuver]

congrats on the nice TD pieces... you guys totally inspire the heck out of CATL sketch group :)

great job folks!
applause

[lefran]

I have the most amazng luck in the world

i had my driving test today right,
my instructor couldnt take me down coz his wife was having an operation this morning so he leant me his car and nan sat by the side of me as i drove down so my instructor wasnt there to do anything about this now my examiner turned up then right, this woman Jane and she told me to just go sit in the car
and she was like scrutinising my instructors car front and back, there was nothing on like no lights or anything anway so i dont know what she was looking at, and she was writing all these notes then she got in the car and asked me what do you need to make sure about tyres which is so vague and is an incorrect question , you either ask about pressure, or checking the tread etc but i answered all 3 things anway
then she goes to me, the baby seat in the back has to be clipped in with the seat belt incase it hits one of us
it was bloody clipped in about 3 other places, so i thought fine and i clipped it in. then she said ok then can you please leave the test centre and turn left, i turned left and seriously like 2 feet later she told me to pull into the left .i pulled in, and then she didnt say anything and just sat there with her hand pointing diagonally left
i was like, ok do you want me to pull forward a bit more she said yes please. so i pulled forward, then she was like can you pull in tighter please and more forward
so i did
then she goes
right im not going to continue with this test, theres a very strong smell of exhaust fumes, and i have asthma so im not going to continue
i was like what the hell, are you serious ( i didnt say that though)
so i had to walk back to the test centre with her she left my car there then she started to give nan all this shit about she knew exactly what has happened the 'gasket has a leak and its seeping through the system into the main cabin area'
which is absolute shit
then she walked off to the office i was just standing there devastated like. then the other instructors came out to see what had happened, and they were like this has never happened before and the one went to get the car for me
so he left reversed the car, revved it like hell to check if there was anything wrong and he said he couldnt smell absolutely anything. me and nan were in it all morning and couldnt smell anything .we then even checked under the bonnet and the back, and there was no smell but there was nothing i could do, you cant even get a second opinion by another examiner because after 5 minutes your test becomes void

so i had to drive back home then i left a message for my instructor then, as his phone was off as he was in the hospital
on top of everything for him like this is so unneccesary

as soon as he found out he was absolutely livid, sooo mad, he took his car straight away to a garage had loads of tests on it ( its a new car for christs sake ) out of his own money
and
theres shit all wrong with the car
sooo straight away he went to the test centre to see fran james the chief examiner there, to complain and kick up a stink
hes making sure its getting sorted, its even got to the chief examiner of south east wales
theres letters of complaints going here there and everywhere, its being taken very seriously
its possible she could lose her job- this woman has done it to my instructor about 2 years ago with his last car which was a clio, and there was nothing wrong with that car
ill get a new test booked for me free hopefully some time next week but i hope they fucking fire that wench

and thats my story for the day

edit: oh and also my sister and a bus full of students were abducted today by the driver :x there was a problem on the bus yesterday with some boys messing around, but today when the bus was about half way from usk to newport, he swung the bus round and started going back the other direction towards the college, he wouldnt tell anyone where he was going, and wouldnt stop to let anyone off, he was sppeding like hell going 60 in a 30/40 zone, and he zoomed straight past the college, everyone was really scared coz they didnt know what the hell he was going to do, and he wouldnt let anyone off, and he went to cwmbran and just left them on the bus, walked off and said i dont care what the hell you do im going home, the police are involved now!!

christ the lives of the court sisters are never boring!

[koshime]

bizzare lucky day Fran!

[lefran]

yeah i hope you detect the sarcasm there lol

sooo so mad and sorry for the random derailing of the thread...not that it was ever railed lol

[DavidCousens]

Jeez Fran, you have the worst luck with your driving tests! I hope you have better luck next time! :D

[Quicksilver]

christ the lives of the court sisters are never boring!
Aye...o_o; Here's hoping the next test runs smoother (and to the finish line...)

[mrdigs]

bloody hell fran - you must be due a landslide of good luck surely !

good work with the thunderdome's everyone - cheers for posting everything up badger.

and congratulations christian - bummer i only got to chat to you once ! haha... no doubt our paths will cross again online tho.

gah - i might as well contribute to the crap luck stories as well, i got up the other day to find that some idiot had tried to steal my car in the night (it's a crappy old renault 5 for god's sake ! - how desperate are these people !?) and had used a crowbar to get in, which meant the door was bent out at a 45 degree angle...hmph.

didn't look THAT bad tho til i got in the car and found that they'd also used a crowbar to break the steering lock...which kinda backfired on them and ended up bending the steering column, so now the car's been written off.

crap timing, was two days before my birthday dammit ! and i've just had to fork out for a new car right before christmas *snif*...which means tiny tim won't be getting any presents....*snif*

heheh...

i'm still in shock that anyone would actually try and steal something that old - and when i tried to report it, it took me a WEEK to actually get to speak to the police and they had a go at me for not reporting it earlier ! doooh !

ok ok...rant over...

[lefran]

ah man that sucks
people tend to go for older cars as they dont tend to have automated alarm systems, and certain models are easier to break into that others such as corsas for example, with the certain pressure and weigh applied in the right place, you can bend the door right back and get in. Also older cars are easier to dump when theyre done with them, you steal a new car your more likely to get noticed, and your not exactly gonna want to dump it either- ergo more chance in getting caught
that sucks though!

[aefx]

Well I think I just figured out who jacked your car... :wink:

[lefran]

you promised you wouldnt tell

[mrdigs]

yeah you've got some inside knowledge going on, I'm gonna keep an eye out for burnt out cars at the next meet - and we all thought you got the train !

[aph]

Fran. You are the unluckiest person I know of when it comes to driving tests.

That is just unbelievable. Sounds like that examiner was drunk or just wanted a longer lunch break, and that is really shameful. I hope something happens about it, because at the very least she just cheated you out of another 50 quid.

I'm sure next time will be the one! Your due some luck =D

[james]

just reading that story makes me angry. people who abuse their power should be shot. lots.

[Summer Pudding]

Christian: yeah, I'll defo be up for some last minute beerage. I need an excuse to get out of my works Christmas man disco. A bunch of paunchy, sweaty programmers dancing round their Wiis. No ta.

Fran: that's grim

Pierre

[Molly]

S'pud, DC see you then - Fran thats just fucking wrong...wot a silly bint....next time, lock her in the car and stick an extended exhaust pipe into the window...THEN she'll smell da faaking fumes...
Mx

[Dirty C]

Damn, you're both having some pretty rotten luck!

Just finished shipping most of my stuff off to san fran. Gotta pack my actual bags now... should probably remember to eat today as well :)

Hope you're all enjoying your Thursday :D

[Dirty C]

Oh, Spud, just saw your comment. Well, here's my address:

86 Mysore Road
Battersea
SW11 5SA

It looks like I might be all done packing before too long, so we might head out, not sure. But my number's still 077 9360 6466 for now - give me a shout if you're gonna make it.

[Summer Pudding]

DC, Moo, looks like TheBrave'll be coming too. Btw, yeah, lets go to a pub. My Battersea born and bred buddy (how's that for alliteration? :) ) says The Latchmere and Falcon are good watering holes, but you knew that already, right?

What time should we turn up j'think?

Spuddles

[Dirty C]

Oh nice one. I was hoping you'd invite more Christians along :)

BTW, already had a few. And some off them were Leffe...

[lefran]

thanks for all your agreed hatred! ill get a test for free, just waiting for them to call me to let me know when, i hope its soon

its tomorrow your off right christian? awww
have an awesome time and send me some sweet tarts ^__^theyre the best sweets ever!!!( not literal tarts that are sweet, might cost a bit on the plane ticket haha)
damn you
have a great time dudeee

[trev]

I was just about to say goodby and good luck Christian, BUT the latchmere and the flacon are about 5 - 10 mins walk from my house! Assuming you guys are still there when i get back from work ill pop down and buy you a beer or three:)

[Dirty C]

Nice one. Dunno if we'll be there exactly, but the Falcon (not that great actually...) is just down the road.

[trev]

cool, well ill give you a buzz when i get back - which will probably be around 8ish- and track you down.

cya later!

[Quicksilver]

See ya around, Chris! Have a safe journey :) Lucky moo - it's gonna be awesome for you guys.
S'pud, DC see you then - Fran thats just fucking wrong...wot a silly bint....next time, lock her in the car and stick an extended exhaust pipe into the window...THEN she'll smell da faaking fumes...
Mx
HAHahaha!

O.M.G...*one* more day and I'll be freeee! ;__; (deadline day tomorrow). So far I've had about 5 hours sleep for the past 2 days (gonna try an all-nighter tonight) to touch-up/finish everything off @_@

[aph]

Yeah you'll be ok Naomi! Go for it! I was doing my stuff til like the last second haha, well.. until I got referred. Then I was a good boy for once, haha! Its worth it! That sense of relief will be awesome =D

Edit: Dirty_c! Good luck matey, and well done! Too bad we couldn't meet in the end lol, although I have a feeling I saw you walk by with Naomi and Fran. Can't wait to see what you produce dude.

[Dirty C]

thanks Aph.

Going in 3 hours. Hope I make it. Had a massive night - thanks to Spud and Trev and the lady Molly.

Must sleep, but am afraid I'll get too much. Love you all and see you soon.

Over for now,
DC
xx.

[koshime]

Hey DC,
hate to see you leave but happy trails. Hope we meet again in Valhalla Paint oils-land or something.

On the flipside,
I'm experiencing a bit of tough luck from the medical career side as well.
Fourth time unlucky in the exams....

[Midnight]

I guess you're gone now, then.

Have a great time!

Mid.

[Molly]

Aaah...last night was so cool, had a great time DC, Im glad to have seen you before you go!
Woke up this morning,feeling drunk, head awl-a-dizzy an' wot not...
Gonna miss you sweetheart, I really am. I remember the first time talking to you in Amsterdam, the very first meet in London with Kim; you've been a rock to this 'ere sketchgroup; an inspiration, our daddy. Do us proud over there wit all them wanks- I mean YANKS; paint your heart out; learn all you can; look after yourself in crack land; and have fun only as the DC knows how!
All the best m'love, you will be sorely missed from these shores!

S'pud - great to see you, got 'Love Spreads' in my head, played it when I got home, (I think I woke some neighbours) but who cares? hehe
theBrave 'how you doin'? hehe- glad you liked the head massage, good to see you again;)
trev - hope ya took that huge monster/sculpture thingy from DC; hope you get enough painting done over Christmas, would be good to see more of your work online...

You lot, we should meet up more often..I know I'm one to talk, I've been a hermit for the last...ooh...100 years, but I'm sure to make up for that!

DC, again, take care, safe travels!
Mxxx

[Summer Pudding]

In Sharon Osborne mode

"Show 'em how its done dear. Drink them under the table, and paint like the wind." Had a hoot last night btw. ;)

Spuddington

[DavidCousens]

Fran thats just fucking wrong...wot a silly bint....next time, lock her in the car and stick an extended exhaust pipe into the window...THEN she'll smell da faaking fumes...
Mx

Hardcore Molly! Hehe. ("contains Mild Peril" indeed...)

Good luck Chris, knock 'em dead over there matey!

[Dirty C]

Thanks everyone :)

Molly - didn't realise trev was meant to take the toy. It's still there, wrapped in plastic waiting for someone to pick it up.

This workshop is totally unlike any of the earlier ones. Loads of crazy performance art, Kevin Llewellyn's back, the setup is *amazing* and we seem to have a 75% brand new audience once again. Foster's back, and still really great and approachable. The Lemens are here, and the instructor ratio seems like it's massive. I unfortunately had to bail last night cause I'd been awake for like 30 hours off the back of 3 hours pissed sleep. Manley felt good enough to give me shit on the way out the bastard :)

I met most of the others in the school last night. They all seem like wicked guys, and really enthusiastic. I'm definitely gonna learn a lot with these guys, I can just tell. Carl seems to have found a really great group of people. Seriously can't wait. Haven't seen the space yet, but hopefully I will today. It's not complete yet apparently, but James Kei was saying it kicks ass.

Talked to Marko, told him how jealous everyone was about his missus - he seems as happy as a pig in shit, honestly. Someone said he hasn't even drunk anything in like 3 months.

I've had a few 'three rules' conversations already haha - It's cool that some things don't change. I don't think i can be bothered starting the Eggs thing again though ;)

The last 24 hours in England was awesome. Thanks everyone that came along. I'm a bit of a student of leaving places, and the amount of great people and great times I've had in London blows them all away. I was talking to people last night about how I just gave my career away, and I guess it is just now starting to sink in.

[lefran]

hey! glad your having a good time, your gonna kick ass! looking forward to see what your going to be producing in the future =]

[yAdam]

Sounds awesome, really should have saved money for it, and not cared about not having any money when I got back. :[

Going back a few days now, but Fran, that sucks. The next one will be perfect!

[asoir]

aww man it's sad to see you go, enjoy it over there!

and get out of our thread, ya filthy a-merican! ;)

[Dirty C]

Spoke to Jason last night about what's going on. Apparently we're gonna be building an entire world in multiple genres. Not 100% sure what the genre differences will be exactly, but we're gonna be turning out vehicles, creatures, characters, environments and everything else for each.

Hope everyone back there is cool. Sorry to keep popping in here and being all sentimental, but I already miss you lot. God I'm a sap haha. Anyway, hit me up if you see me on msn.

[blog]

wow its really cool to see you aint rejected the UK yet :D Hope you have a fuckin awesome time homie!

[koshime]

DC > u promised to teach me the theory of colour man. i still havent had that tut...in painter...har har

[Vitreous]

hi everyone, im new here, im from brightobn and you can see my art at www.jonnyridley.co.uk
I'm hoping to be posting some art up here so wish me luck!

[Hybridstar]

Reject the uk!? We rock, big time. Good luck Christian, learn loads and come back and and see us all soon.:}

[Badger]

Hello all you charming and wonderful people, i'm looking at getting a printer from santa, has anyone got any good recommendations for colour printing art work? Hope you are all out enjoying the fog and have busted out your stripey scarf, the real sign of an arteeest.
Hi Vitreous, welcome!

Who's gonna be about in the new year? i'll probably be in london for a day or so cause poop is visiting i believe.
-B-

[lefran]

ill be in london on the 4th and 5th on jan with my sister if your round that time, and anyone else for that matter

[D-Holme]

Badger - I have not posted here before (Hullo) but as a UK chap, I thought I would take the opportunity to start and offer up some printer information.

The printer I use for work is a canon i9100:
Pros: A3 paper size, high quality, multiple-individual cartridges and boarder-less printing
Cons: High price tag (£300-400), fairly ink intensive
Mostly used for printing out technical drawings and renders.

The i9100 has been replaced by the i9900 (and Pro 9000), which I am told is fairly similar, it might depend on how much you (or Santa) is looking to spend. All this said I mostly use a 100’quid off-the-shelf Epson for day-to-day draft work so possibly if you are looking for this to be your sole printer it might be better to look elsewhere.

[Mr Man]

Hey guys, its good to be back in the uk! Im abit jet lagged from san fran and my brain is pretty much melted, but man it was worth it!
There was alot of info to get in especially from ron lemen. As I say hes got verbal Diarrhea of useful information.
Nobodys too sure when florence will be, I had a small chat to layil and she says they are gonna get focused on it once san frans out the way. It sounds like its a tought thing to organise so I dont think it will be too soon just yet.
If you have never been to a workshop then you really must go to one. For me the experience was meeting artists in person and having a good chat to see how they think feel and what their personalities are like. I was suprised how down to earth the instructers were. You could just sit down with them chat and no one would be on a high pedastal. Everyone was treated with the same respect which was great. I was shit scared when I was about to talk to my first instructor but once you start moving around talking to other instructers it gives you such a huge leap in confidence.
The last day was especially a blast because by then you became pally with everyone and it was so fun just chilling, learning, drinking and drawing. Definatley a great great social experience.

[Quicksilver]

Glad you had a great time, Rich! Really hoping the Italy one will defo take place. Will need to save up money again as most of it has gone to Christmas pressies! ;o;

[DannySketch]

quicksilver, from the sounds of things the Italy one is def gonna happen, they say the proceeds from this one gave them enough reason to do one again next summer,

it was very, very cool.

[Quicksilver]

quicksilver, from the sounds of things the Italy one is def gonna happen, they say the proceeds from this one gave them enough reason to do one again next summer,

it was very, very cool.
Woohoo!

Sooo when/where's the next meeterooey? I don't start college 'til Jan 8th, and will probably only have to work a couple of weekdays leading up to that.

[koshime]

happy hols everyone! (Kurismukah!)
we should meet in the new year for another paint/drawing together session!

[Mr Man]

Would like another uk meet after xmas! would be good fun :^^:

[lefran]

yeah =]
id be up for that, where would it be? london im guessing

[[void]]

Yeah I'm up for that, god yes london. Enough of this insane make adam get up early rubbish.

[mrdigs]

san fran sounds cool, and i was inspired enough after the oxford meet ! haha...think one of those would melt my brain...

hey christian - hope everything's goin well out there, make sure you keep us posted !

another meet sounds cool - i'm back at college on the second tho...and...very sadly i'm back at work on the third after about three weeks off !...pfft...that's gonna kill.

anyways...doubt i'll get a chance to post over the weekend, so merry christmas you lot !

hopefully see you all in the new year.

[lefran]

gah by make adam get up early just how early is early? i think you and me + naomi have differnet perceptions of early lol ^__^!

anyone have any preference for dates? can it pleaaaase not be for over a month from now though otherwise i cant go, i need to book time off from work well in advance

[koshime]

Am free next week Tues/wednesday

[lefran]

unless its a weekday

[Midnight]

Happy Winter Solstice, everyone (exact time was 0022, but better late than never)!

Mid.

[Quicksilver]

']Yeah I'm up for that, god yes london. Enough of this insane make adam get up early rubbish.
Oh sod off ¬_¬

I'm up for a meet at some point. Anyone willing to throw up some info on events/exhibs/whatevs + locations feel free to do so.

[lefran]

i think a museum rather than a gallery would be better? i liked that one in oxford, because you get the chance to draw rather than just look, dunno what other people think
unless theres some cool exhibits going on? anyone know of anything particularly good around this time?

[Mr Man]

How about somat in birmingham? Its more center that way the northeners wont have so far to travel? and its near me :P

[lefran]

thats about the same distance as london for me and naomi i think, birmingham is a really nice city, maybe thats a good idea, wouldnt be too far for londoners either i think

[Kian]

Yep, and It'd be easier for me to get to.....too

[DannySketch]

ha finnaly be able to meet u mate, birmingham sounds cool, depends whenish though?i have no reserves money wise anymore so i am going from pay check to pay check, hopefully i'll be able to have enough :x

merry christmas every1 by the way.

[yAdam]

yep, birmingham sounds good to me.

and :star:Merry Christmas:star: to everyone as well, just in case I don't get chance to say it tomorrow or monday :)

[[void]]

Oh bloody hell, I leave this place for 5 minutes and it all goes to shit and people start shouting about some birmingham place wherever that is.

[Quicksilver]

Birmingham it is :) Haven't been there in a while, and it's a nice change from London.

Dates? I can't do the 29th/30th Dec - dunno what other date's I'll be working yet either.

[lefran]

well naomi and i go back to college on the 7th or 9th or something, if it was before then i can pretty much make any date, except a weekend would be slightly difficult to get off, but ill try my best

[Mr Man]

Yeh somat in the week day would be good :)
Ill have to have a browse around the net and see if theres any museums we can scout.

[lefran]

sorry to be a pain but im gonna just shout out a date coz otherwise its not gonna get sorted for aaages

we can have discussion/agreement/ disagreement with this date then


hooooow about


monday 2nd january

aaaand you should have recovered from the day before by then as well


anyone object? anyother suggestions?

[Quicksilver]

Good going, Fran :) Sounds fine to me - don't think I'll be working either...

PS: Woot, 100th page! :3

Edit: MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

Hmmm, "er hita" Wonder if that means something? xD

[koshime]

Happy Merry KristmuKah!

[yAdam]

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 I'm drunk, b\ck from the puyb, and in a good mood!! I'm up for tuesday 2nd of jan!! ;) I'm pretty sure thats the right day. Monday would be the first. whats everyone think about that? MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kian]

Merry Christmas

[Mr Man]

MERRY XMAS!!!!
Monday sounds good I tinks.

[koshime]

Happy HOGSWatch!

everyone who has acess to SKyOne should tune it (multi start) to this in support of the contributions of Sketchling!

Merry Christmas!

[Hybridstar]

Happy Xmas all, heres to a great year of drawing, painting and concepts for all.

[Midnight]

Merry Christmas!

Onwards to an awesome 2007 (where maybe, at some point, I'll make it to another meet... but don't hold your breath)!

Mid.

[Dirty C]

Happy Christmas from the Frontier, ya European bastiches.

[Poison_art]

Merry Christmas everyone hope you all had a lovely time and got what you wanted

xxx

[Quicksilver]

Happy HOGSWatch!

everyone who has acess to SKyOne should tune it (multi start) to this in support of the contributions of Sketchling!

Merry Christmas!
Would do but my parents cut off Sky 'cause hardly anyone in the house watches TV. :S Sorry, Kim!!

[lefran]

merry xmas for yday!! anyone watch the dr who special?? there were some awesome makeup and prosthetics whatvere else is going on for the spider monster lady, apparently its the most realistic and scary type monster theyve had on there so far
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/episodes/2006/photostories/runawaybride/31.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/episodes/2006/photostories/runawaybride/32.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/episodes/2006/photostories/runawaybride/34.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/episodes/2006/photostories/runawaybride/38.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/episodes/2006/photostories/runawaybride/37.shtml
pretty impressive i think, it was all articulated and moved independantly was really cool

edit: haha just realised the xmas tv hogswatch comment...duh

soooooo is January 2nd ok with everyone???

[sketchling]

no worries Naomi ;) thanks for the card! :D

Merry belated christmass all :)
K

[lefran]

ok so can we say its going to be the 2nd? sorry to be impatient, its just coz its so close its next tuesday and i need to see if i can get the day off
it should be ok coz i did ask my boss last week for a day off because i have to write an essay...which i do ..:S oh well, and id need to book transport etc

Tuesday 2nd- I'll update the meet thread now- its in naomis sig

edit: and also now in mine

[Mr Man]

Hey fran,

I dont think many people are visiting the boards latley since xmas, or the uk boards at least. So I think we have got a mission of Personally messaging people.
Btw in terms of location Im thinking somewhere at the Bullring. I personally like to meet at the bull statue as it stands out and is pretty simple to find. We could perhaps find a cafe/pub near by once we have all met up.

Hope everyone can make this one :\ .

[sketchling]

Im very keen for a meet, but I think making it so soon will jeopardize it. We want them northeners to come out and meet us!! It would be great to finally meet some of them. Why not more mid jan ish?

[Kian]

Kims right. I have waaaay too much uni work to do, and I'm sick of not getting to meets. I honestly think we should wait untill everyones more active.

[spudstudios]

Hope you all had a great Christmas!! Happy new year all UK peeps!!

Could be a good year. I got offered voluntary redundancy at work with a good deal. Looks like I may be trying to go Pro again. I can't see me murdering myself in IT when i may have a chance to work in art again. Look forward to trying to hook up with you guys at the next meet ( if you don't mind).

Here's to a New Year and New opportunities!!

[lefran]

Yeah i agree with the later on idea, coz i cant really afford it atm, and i have a load of work to do as well, was just throwing out the idea, but it looks like i probably wont be able to get the day off anyway. anyone suggest a better time? the problem is is that during the week those of us in school and uni wouldnt be able to come unless we skipped a day (no biggie but still) and those of you who work would have to try and arrange a day off or pull a sickie. Also on weekends, its really hard for me to get a day off, dont know about other people, i guess if we plan it well enough in advance we should all be able to make it if we can book things off in advance. its just the trouble is were never that organised lol

[Tomato]

So someone is organising a new UK Meet without telling me????? I am a birmingham boy so i know it pretty well (Better then Mr Man does anyway) so if you need some info on art galleries or good pubs, just let me know!!!

If this new meet does go underway, there is a free art musuem near the town hall in the middle of Birmingham, thats about a 10 min walk (maybe not even that) from the Bull Statue outside the Bullring. There are also several great pubs to relax and doodle in including Scruffies, The Gallows and the Flapper (But thats a hard one to find). There is also Costers (No not the Coffee Shop).

Anyway i'm interested in this meet, so add another one to your list :)

ME!!!! :P hahahahaha :^^:

[[void]]

I vote later, the 2nd is way to soon for me, if this ones gonna be a big one then i would like to be there.

[[void]]

Oh and I have uni work n such, I keep forgetting.

[Molly]

Hey Folks,

So, will it be a UK meet in London? On the 2nd Jan? a bit soon eh? what with the New year celebrations etc, recovering, blah blah blah...
I second Sketchling, and would prefer a mid-Jan meet, so more Northerners can come daaan...


Mx

EDIT: BTW poopinmymouth will be in London Jan 7-10th. Hes in Iceland atm, and said he'd be popping over here, before heading on to Switzerland or Sweden somewhere...anyhoo, it would be nice if we meet up with him, if your in London round that time...

[koshime]

hi guys,
Poop (ben Mathis) is in london now..

[Mr Man]

Sounds like the meets off for the moment, but nevermind we are not in a rush are we :P

[lefran]

*ahem* its someones birthday ^___^ begins with b and ends with adger

birthday thread right here-
Badger's birthday thread (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=85878)

[Badger]

Ha ha, thanks guys, still not net access at my Mum's yet.

I shall be down to see poopy, or i think he'll send letter bombs to my bristolian residence. So if any of you guys are about then it'd be great to see you. I think there will be some polycounters i know from drinking so all in all it should be a fun run.

Jon i have a car, give us a shout if you want to meet up next week.

-B-

[Flynn]

Glad to see things going well for everyone, happy B-day badger, im sorry im a stranger ;)

Cool to know Mr Poop is in the UK Kosh.

Ive been too much of a lurker for too long, its my birthday in early Feb this year but theres some animation XSI meetup in London sometime near feb 25th, and I shall be making my way waaaaay south to visit for a few days in London for the event so wouldnt mind hookin up with some Londoners and CA`ers ;)

[Quicksilver]

Kim: You're welcome! ^_^

Still got a card ready for Pete but it's still lying about somewhere 'cause I forgot where I jotted down his addy and he hasn't gotten back to me! >.< So it's still here, if you want a belated Christmas card sent to ya, Pete. ;P

Note: I sent out cards to people if I had their addresses.....wub you all. :3


How long will poop (Ben) be around for? I'll be in London next week, soOoo if anyone can make it on 3rd/4th...

[lefran]

im in london on the 4th and 5th, naomi maybe we could meet up for a bit too =]

[lefran]

happy new year, well eve, everyone!
ive nowere to go so im staying in and watching films
joy!

hope you have more fun!! and more alcohol involved!!(no doubt about that though haha)

[Quicksilver]

Aww, hope you enjoy those films, Fran :) Sure, would be cool to meet up when we're in London or something.

Had dinner with the family and now I'm purging the crap outta my room in hope that it'll be more 'work friendly' for the new term...wanna fresh start etc.

Happy New Year, all~! :D

~~Naomew xxx

[Midnight]

Happy New Year!

May this year bring you all good fortune!

Mid.

[Dirty C]

Happy new year you lot. i'm having a quiet one in with my sister and her family cause two nights ago I got so obliterated I spent a goodly portion of the evening throwing up in the sub zero outdoors of suburban Massacheussetts. Figured I wanted to be in better shape to start school in two days haha

Anyway you lot, make sure you do meet up, or I'll send you all nasty messages (hehe they don't know what 'wanker' means here)

[Alcian]

Happy new year to all you UKers!

[Flynn]

Happy drunken new years to all ;)

So il take this as a no then about London in Feb?.. nevermind.

[sketchling]

Happy new years all :D
:lens: :lens: :lens: :lens: :lens: :lens: :lens:

[poopinmymouth]

I'm gonna be in London, on Jan 7-10 if anyone wants to get together for something brief. Cartoonfox you had better be there!

[TheBrave]

Is there? or is there not a meeting in London this week/month? :)

the last one was such fun, (apart from missing the train home) bidding adieu to that foolish, yet lovable kiwi (kidding - he's very clever and will be ruling at his 'sckool' in no time!!!)

it's always fun to get in amongst such cool people as you lot (well the two or three times ive made it have been anyway)

Molly, i'll need another head massage tho - ill bring the benjamins - well..... the elisabeths, you know what i mean. actually i PMed U a while back RE; our conversation that night and you utterly failed to reply, im guessing that unless you secretly dispise me (which lets face it, is unlikely :))............ actually now i check in my account i didnt send it - what happened to that is anyones guess.

well in fact it might be of slight interest to the wider audience (but maybe not)

the gist of it was this:- are we sitting comfortably? then ill begin.

OUr conversation at the last meet revolved around the subject of 'influence' specifically being personnaly influenced by other artists work, and how a number of people had recently advised you to avoid looking at the work of others as it may lead you off your 'true' path - or away from your true personnal style.

This is quite interesting I reckon, so maybe the rest of you might like to get in on the debate.

personnally i think its an incorrect assumption that avoiding other peoples work purifys your own style. i think it can only stunt it.

It actually amounts to an argument in support of ignorance.

in a nut-shell, if artists didnt look at each others work there would be little visual progress. we would effectivly all still be painting on the cave walls.

It’s like this – it is a mistake to think of yourself as a completely separate individual being. Humans are pack animals and our brains are configured to work as part of a community – in fact your brain is just part of the collective human mind – lets face it 99% of your (or my) thoughts are not genuinely our own, probably more than that really. Most thoughts and ideas are either direct copies of things we’ve heard before, or hybrid forms cobbled together from various sources that have arrived with us from other minds. Allowing for 1% originality is actually quite generous 

Some find all this quite disturbing, and like to think it doesn’t apply to them, but looking at it in a positive light it effectively means that we have access to the thoughts and ideas of millions through the media, litrature, education, music and art to name but a few. To ignore all this wealth of knowledge effectively in the name of ‘purity’ would be like having access to a huge library and locking the door and never venturing in to learn.

i think there are great benefits to be gained through viewing the work of other, and even from - yes its true - copying the work of other artists!!!!! this is not blasphemy, it's the case - Rubens (you know the famous old french bloke) gathered an enormous collection of other artists work throughout his career, he was particularly fond of drawings and preliminary sketches as these contain the bare unadorned sole of the artist and the image, he spend hours copying from the works in his collection, he even 'borrowed' poses for his own work - in fact he even when as far as to hire other artists to paint his pictures for him once he'd worked out the compositions and then at the end just added a few high lights and his signiture. this was Rubens and he was and is considered a master.

Style is not something that can be aimed for, it evolves as life evolves. Survival of the fittest. Effective techniques are retained, poor ones are dropped, some forms work others don’t, certain palettes work, certain compositions work, steadily the individual style develops through practice, consideration and personal taste predjudice.

Ultimately we might think of ‘art’ as a huge wall built by countless artists throughout history. The best you can hope for is to add one or two bricks of your own. You’d be mad to try to start your own wall in isolation, to everyone else it will merely appear quaintly naïve.

Ok. That’ll do for now, you get the idea, and I have a deadline for tomorrow and I gotta go paint – hmmmmm maybe I’ll just copy some Rubens ;P


Haha. Later people, and whens that meet??????


Brave

[cartoonfox]

Ben, if we can all get together 9th or 10th, that would be perfect for me. I have work to do till 8th, so I won't have much time till after then.

[MoP]

OH GOD BEN IS IN TOWN!
He's staying at Frankie's house (which is just down the road from me), so I'll be surprised and confused if we don't get a bit of sketching done. My book's blank pages are staring at me accusingly.

Would be cool to meet up with you again sometime too, Cartoonfox ... unfortunately, work is in crunch at the moment so I dunno if I'll get much time apart from late evening :(

[Summer Pudding]

Christian, I hear ya man,

you're wrong of course, but that's neither here nor there. :) Here's my counter argument, and the thoughts of some fellow Functionality Fascists. I'd be interested to see what you make of the discussions we've got over there.

http://community.conceptart.org/groups/?id=31&link=view_topic&topic_id=407&group_id=31

Robospud

[sketchling]

I agree that referring to art books and stuff can make you kinda follow a homoginized style... BUT, if you get inspired by someones work, go with it. Learn, copy and sponge... but DONT STAY THERE. Keep learning new things. I find the art books give me a kick in the butt and make me wanna get better!

Studying other people's work teaches you different solutions to visual problems and is, I think, a good resource. That said, unless you yourself try to solve these problems by painting from life, you will never fully UNDERSTAND what those artists were doing, you will only mimic. Reality is one hell of a teacher and super inspiring.

K
Oh, and if you want wierd inspiration, check out :david attenborough's private life of plants and life in the undergrowth. Nature is screwy. Especially the wasp life in the undergrowth episode... freaked me out!