United Kingdom

[acuna_read]

Oh well, worth a try. Maybe you should become one of those double people.

@Pixelherder, a few more ideas.
1) Go french impressionist stylie and hire a prossie.
2) Draw yourself in you kecks, dont look at your bits though as you'll go blind.
3) Travel to Essex and pick up any stereotypical random girl, much like prossie only doesnt cost anything to begin with, then however wastes money on cheap copy of LV bag etc etc.

Again as useful as a blind leper monkey, but my eyes still arent going square :alien1:

P.S. In case you didnt know Rocky won! :waves:

[Matt Dixon]

Pixelherder - I have some mates who used to go to a life drawing class in Derby, but I don't think it's on the go anymore. There must be something in Notts. I'll ask around and let you know...

Acuna_read's prossie idea isn't all that bad, you know - there are plenty of opportunities to see naked or semi-naked humans online at various free webcam sites / portals. The image may be smaller than a postcard, but the models don't tend to move around very much and if there's a chat feature, you can even pose them! If that feels a bit shady, go and sit in the park or the pub for an endless supply of unknowing models.

I'd like to try and get down to one of these London meets if you guys don't mind. It won't be for a while, but how's the driving in the smoke these days? Are you guys fairly central, or out in the 'burbs?

[cartoonfox]

ahh ok, i see.
well i think its just the photo, i'm not that big. i'm about as 'ard as a barrel of kittens ^-^

man, i wish i lived in london. i have no freinds here who are interested in drawing at all, which is why i love coming to london to meet all you peeps.
hope you all find life drawing classes ^-^



peace

[sketchling]

Um... I leave you guys a lone for 4 days and I have 20 mins reading to do!!! Jeez. A barrel of kittens indeed... a good analogy, but dont go pouring hot water on em.

Yo acuna! where on wardour street are you applying as a runner? curiouser and curiouser...

Who wants to go to germany? I am still mulling it over in my head. If we dont go... should we plan something here thats cheaper? an actual workshop with lifedrawing or something.... its that word 'plan' that worries me. hmmmm.

Any, BTW, if anyone wants my msn addy, its Sketch_o_maniac@hotmail.com
Im online lots.


In the words of the great kitten holding barrel... peace. ;)

[Dirty C]

Um, yeah, I was really keen to go, but then I figured out (ok, my gf reminded me) that I'm going to Sardinia on the Sunday. So pretty difficult to work out doing both. Sucks, i was really keen, but there you go.

To a certain extent, I reckon it's pretty easy to learn the same things over and over if you kep going to the workshops. This one in Berlin is the exception, cause it's small and there'll be alot of personal focus. The meeting round my place is about the most useful info I can think of! Damn showy offy painters :)

[cartoonfox]

hey sketchling, me and molly are going to the berlin workshop, you should too ^-^
there are only a few places left, so if you do decide, hurry up ^-^


so where are the pics from kew gardens? i wonna see ^-^


yeah cant wait for sunday 1st. i get so lonely over here, with no friends to go out and draw with. cant wait ^-^



peace

[acuna_read]

Well, im not sure really. My Sister's (2 years older, so 21/22) friend works there as a receptionist i think, and she has sent a CV round to a few companies to see if anything comes up. The main one was a comapny called "Media aspects". So maybe there, thats all i know. So basically im a CV , ill put it about anywhere! :dance:
Ive now got an interview from a photgraphy company in Tunbridge Wells on the 26th and am doing a re-crash course in Photshop and to get a portfolio together, just bought a tablet so should be ok. It's only image manipulation so just airbrushing etc... :help:

I'd love to go to Germany, but have just realised that I have no passport, and have realised for a long time I have no money! But the Belgium mini one sounds good, if i could get things sorted. But id be up for a London one, or even trips over to Paris etc.

P.S. I sometimes go into the Nat gallery. and then down to Motorbooks(i think its called that but have now forgotten where it is) and Magma. So if you see a shoulder haired 12yr old (im actually 18) looking ginger lad walking around, thats me!

P.S.S. Molly watched neighbours again today and its scary how much you look like her! :D

[pixelherder]

Hey Aidan, not familiar with Nottingham, but there must be a college that does drop in life drawin classes or summink. If ur going to start ur own group, maybe ask a few friends first, see if any are up for modelling. They dont have to be fully naked...Im lucky enough to have one friend whos up for it.(but Im not sure if she'd pose for a group ^_^.)Mollyx

i wish i could say i had similarly accomodating friends. Unfortunately I imagine nott is also a bit out the way...SOooo until a willing exhibitonist turns up though, i've put the word out "on the street" about classes , so we'll see what comes of that. I've tried to find some evening courses already, but in my experience there are "arty" towns (galway, ireland,comes highly recmommended from this ex-native) and those that arent. so far nottingham is seeming more like the latter, but i'm willing to be proved wrong.


@Pixelherder, no idea how to do that. But thought of putting up small adds in local art shops? maybe one or two colleges?


you sir, are a god amongst men (and women). I'll trawl the local artshops at the coming weeks and see what i can uncover

@Pixelherder, a few more ideas.
1) Go french impressionist stylie and hire a prossie.
2) Draw yourself in you kecks, dont look at your bits though as you'll go blind.
3) Travel to Essex and pick up any stereotypical random girl, much like prossie only doesnt cost anything to begin with, then however wastes money on cheap copy of LV bag etc etc.

Very, er, "bohemien". I wonder if the police are equally enlightened..."honest officer, i was merely trying to capture her ESSENCE.....OW!"

Pixelherder - I have some mates who used to go to a life drawing class in Derby, but I don't think it's on the go anymore. There must be something in Notts. I'll ask around and let you know...

Acuna_read's prossie idea isn't all that bad, you know - there are plenty of opportunities to see naked or semi-naked humans online at various free webcam sites / portals. The image may be smaller than a postcard, but the models don't tend to move around very much and if there's a chat feature, you can even pose them! If that feels a bit shady, go and sit in the park or the pub for an endless supply of unknowing models.

Derby is way out of my way, but if you find anyone who knows anyone more notts based then i'm all ears. And pencils. And i already do quite a lot of photo-based stuff - in the absence of real people its a pretty good substitute. Dont know about the pub/park people watching thing though....you know that feeling you get when you KNOW youre being stared at...? Then again, maybe unnerving a few random strangers is the perfect way to spend an evening.

thanks for the suggestions ya'll!

[Dirty C]

Manley and crew hired one of those shop-front prostitutes in Amsterdam and drew her. Marko was bitching, cause he stood in the window, and reckons loads of guys kept checking him out :love:

[acuna_read]

In the first few pages, someone suggested weekly meets. What happened to these or at least the idea? Where would you meet up weekly? Cheap pub? :nod: And when yous lot gonna hire a hooker then? :hh:

@pixel, I like to think im a god amongst men, and a god to women. Thats what I like to think ;)

Until I can find somewhere to host my photo's this :dorky: is what I look like but with ginger hair and minus the jaundice look.

[cartoonfox]

well i wouldnt be able to do weekely meets. it costs £40 to get to london, but as long as it doesnt take over the monthly meeting, i dont mind you lot going ^-^


peace

[Dirty C]

Yeah, I suggested it., I guess since I came back into London, I've been busy. Never fails. But I am keen to take it up at some stage if anyone else is. Cheap pub does sound like a good way to start.

[DavidCousens]

Been meaning to post for a while now. If there was a meet that took place other than the first week of the month I'd be up for it.

(First week of the month is always payday weekend, which means I'm WAY too hungover to get to London! :yawns: )

I *should* be free from the third week of August hopefully...

[sketchling]

Im up for something weekly... say on a wednesday or even a weekend day. A bit of inspiration is good... can even try the theme thing... though that seldom goes anywhere... though it does give the imagination a ground to go wild.

K

[Dirty C]

Well it looks like I'm occupied Monday nights with life drawing, and my next priority is finding a painting class. Anyone know anything in that arena? After that, days can be allocated more freely :)

[Chermilla]

hey y'all,

sorry to interupt the conversation but I was told to come here.....by erm molly. So hi, afraid money is reeeeeeal tight at the mo, so cant do that august 1st meeting thing but I am joining a mod group soon and now am looking for some sort of temporary job whilst I carry on doing some serious job-huntin' but as soon as I start getting some money coming in I will try and come to some of these meets. Should be good.

Coz of this mod thing i need to buy a new scanner and a shit load of other materials with what little money i have left in the bank. Damn, I don't even have a social life at the moment-well I do a bit coz i was wasted last night but thats not the point, it ain't what it used to be is what i mean.

Anyway, so yeah I'll try to make it in the future. :)

[lowpolymatt]

Same here....yeah yeah yeah...I suck at kepping things going. Sorry folks I've just been completely swamped my work and family. I am trying to get back into drawing but between work, life, 3d art and concept art, right now concept art is turning up loser....but I will endeavour to make it to a meet as soon as is humanly possible!

Matt

[lowpolymatt]

Pixelherder....get a girlfriend!




....dont worry folks, I used to work with Pixelherder...he knows im just teasing him..

[pixelherder]

Pixelherder....get a girlfriend!




....dont worry folks, I used to work with Pixelherder...he knows im just teasing him..

*runs crying up and the stairs and locks himself in his bedroom*

p.s. And i think i'm going to stay in there until after the eatpoo/conceptart war is over - its like being in the middle of an ugly divorce. Maybe i'll run away, and THEN they'll be sorry...

Find the happy place...find the happy place...*rocks back and forth in the corner*

[cartoonfox]

looks like its calmed down now ^-^

t'was fun


hey molly and sketchling, http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=261843&postcount=82

could you both pm me just to 100% comfirm, i'm gonna book later today so i need to know
thanks



peace

[Dirty C]

Welcome Chermilla! You're in London then? Molly tells us all what to do as well. Then breaks her back and doesn't come. Man, how many times can a person break their back? It must be paste by now.

What's this crap about eatpoo? I don't even know what it is. I hardly ever branch outside this thread to be honest, hehehe.

Oh yeah, the meeting with the guy from the Mill is today. Wish me luck - I have no idea if anything will come of it at all..

Oh, btw, Kim. If you see Matt Sagar, mention me to him. Apparently he needs consistent bugging to actually get in touch with anyone, and he's been 'circulating my cv' for like two and a half weeks now.

[Chermilla]

yes I am indeed in London, well just south of it anyway in a place called Sutton. *cringes* I wanna move somewhere nice, sunny and more exotic...hmmmm England, I really am starting to despise it! :hmm:

[Dirty C]

you appear to have a tongan domain name. problem solved :)

[Molly]

Welcome Chermilla,

Thanx for dropping by. I know you wont be attending the Uk meets, but you know we're here...(Im gathering the troops!) Good luck with the MOD thing!

dirty_c - I hurt my back once, and yep, it is moosh now, but theres an advantage to that :dance: HAHAHA!

Mollyx

[koshime]

There has to be a few good palce we can rotate during the day/noon/evening for a draw/cum library/msueum/pu crawl/dinner bi montly/weekly. hehe

[Dirty C]

yeah, we need to find a few pubs with armchairs, would be my suggestion. There's definitely a couple round me in Angel.

Where's a good candidate for everyone to meet? What about somewhere in the centre, like Soho? Kim, know any good candidate places round you?

[acuna_read]

Theres loads of pubs on every corner round there.

You can always go and sit in galleries during the day as well, if you go then. And most are FREE :fruit: which is my favourite word in London.

Assuming i can bunk on trains I can get more drinks as well, or lets hope i get one of these jobs im applying too :cry:

Anybody who cant be bothered to walk round there is really lazy anyway, its in the space of a square mile and you can get anywhere really easily.

[sketchling]

Yo!

Yeah, there are lots of pubs around here... but they get really busy after work hours. Often during work hours... :beer: But, there are so many to choose from Soho. She he it is am are a good place three go. (:trouble: ) And its close to me work as dc mentioned... the perfect venue :D When though? weekends or weekdays... Im up for like a tues or wedneday thing whenever we can do it.

so...lets do it!
K :chug:

[Dirty C]

Hm, I think Wednesdays sound like a good candidate atm. Sound good to anyone else? Oh, and I'll probably bring my laptop, cause I'm keen to get stuck into the technical side of things atm.

[Dirty C]

Oh and I have to say congratulations to the one like Usummer bin Pud for getting on the Best of CA page. Don't move up north, we love you!

[Molly]

Hey Sketchling, dirty_c

Wednesday sounds cool, just to hang out and draw. Somewhere in Soho - wherever man!

Summer Pud - yeah, congrats man, you got a thread in the Best of...awesome...


Mollyx

[koshime]

Because of my nature of being on and off call, my life is ruled by the doctors rota. I'm off next week mond, so will see you guys on Aug1. I'm sure in the long and mid term this will work out as well as the costlier workshops

[troymcoy]

Hey, I was wondering if any of you would recommend any fineart/illustration courses in the UK?, preferably not London because its too expensive.
If there isn't a place at Sheffield Hallam then the only other place i've considered is Leeds... Otherwise i'll probably work for a year and apply after that.

thanks dudes

[acuna_read]

If you want the top ones then they are all in London im afraid, though still good ones outside. Dont know which ones are good, but if you dont know then go to http://www.ucas.co.uk/
Just do a search on courses and/or location etc... Gives you all that at least narrows it down. Depends where ya wan to live too. I'd try and find something in the south-west personally. I know Brighton(or is it Borunemouth) do good 3-D stuff. Anyway both are reasonably good places too live, and fairly cheap. Both have better weather and are more relaxed than London, whilst still having most of your normal student needs.

Watch out for Barry boys (accompanied by school childre......I mean their girlfriends) doing "cruises". If you like seeing sill Saxo's and assholes in Astra's then your ok though! :jump1:

[cartoonfox]

haha bary boys ^-^
its fiesta's aswell ^-^

good luck finding a uni. ucas is a good idea, it has a list of all the schools i the uk. so just search for illustration



peace

[koshime]

london althoguh expensive an be affordable as sheffield. stay in teh SE/SW and jsut tube ravel. it will be worth it in terms of contacts which othe rplaces lack, like sheffield

[acuna_read]

Just wanted to add that Fine Art courses are few and far between over here. It either concentrates on getting you ready for work, ie design etc or goes to conceptual stuff. There are some good courses out there though, just gotta find them. Then tailor the course to your needs, I'd suggest speaking to the course leader/tutor even before attending any interviews. Ask them how much you can push the course about, most are pretty flexible.

Just thought id add, Koshime will be good going to the sketch groups if god-forbid anyone gets run-over/attacked/drunk etc...

And to Koshime, would you have any idea of how I could get into theatres to draw muscles and tissues in the future? Would it be allowed at all? assuming I can stomach it :barfing: , ive had an ASD which is fun waking up with so I think i can :hello!:

[Dirty C]

Shit dude, I hadn't thought of that! Is there any chance that could ever happen? Are you even able to maybe just get your hands on um.. x-rays, or medical books or anything?

[troymcoy]

Acuna - Yeh bournemouth sounds good for 3d, but i'm not really into 3d anymore, more of a fineart/illustration based course.
I wouldn't mind taking a year out and working as long as I get to draw alot, i'm drawing all day at the moment and it feels good.

Koshime, london sounds good but I still have worries about the cost, even if I commute etc.

What has anyone else done university wise?

I have to get the course through clearing because I applied for architecture initially, thinking it would be a good thing to help me get into 3d/conceptart but i'm not passionate about it so I decided to withdraw my offers.

I'll check ucas...

[DavidCousens]

troy: If you're after an illustration degree, may I recommend that you DON'T pick Swindon. They're way more into the pretentious side of things there. One of the teachers actually told me that the reason people come here ISN'T so they can get a professional job and further ones skills, but to make their art deeper! Shocking.

We all passed, but after being told for the entire 3rd year that his project was fine to do they changed their mind 3 days before the end of the degree and told him to start again! He's now looking into a career for finance!

And furthermore, they don't believe in using computers for art. :realmad:

I'm going to stop now before I go and get my degree so that I can staple it to that lecturers head! :evilbat:

[troymcoy]

Hey Dave, thanks for the advice. I'll just have to see what I can get in clearing, I don't really care about getting a diploma, but more about the learning the course has to offer...

[DavidCousens]

No problem, and in which case, you should definitely stay away from Swindon! :)

[koshime]

Best Illustration for fine art/illustration in UK

-- Cream of the crop ---
Slade - Lon
Central St martins - Lon
Ruskin School Oxford

- Any college affiliated to the University of Arts

- Edinburgh School of Art
- Chelsea College
- Camberwell College
- Surrey institute of art and design
- Ravensbourne (kent)
- Falmouth School of Art (cornwall)

Transport Design
- Royal College of Art
- Huddersfield

Decent art colleges

- Hallam (sheffield)
- Leeds
- Mancheser

Awfull colleges/boring

- Swindon

Ps/ the average civilian will not get acess to surgical theares for art purposes. And from expereince, you dont see much muscle of anatomy. its all covered up for sterility, save for the surgical field of operation

Saying that, a doctor is privaledged in obtaining acess to people in ways not normally comfortable with most folk. And i woudl say i woudl have had increased wealth of human anatomy though passive means (frank observations) so far

[Chermilla]

I studied at the surrey institute of art & design, it was ok there. Friendly tutors-thats always a good thing. Got on with them like friends. :)

[troymcoy]

Thanks alot Koshime.
Very helpful

[acuna_read]

KIAD does illustration as well apparently. I got accepted onto the prod design course there. Seemed good and I know they work is pretty good, loads of equipment about. near London, if you need to travel but far enough outside to still be quite cheap.

Coventry is the best for Car(transport) design, and Northumbria at Newcastle does it too, think Swansea as well.

Thanks for the info on drawing in theatres as well. :chainsaw: :hello!:

[koshime]

Alrighty Troy. make a good choice, but make sure it will help your future. I recommend the one nearby Lon but not too far up North *grin*

[Rhaucan]

University choices, frustrating buisiness. I'm hoping to do history of art, and then carry on my art alongside the course, possibly combined with classic civilisations just for fun and then I could draw, epic gods / battles etc. :p Then if I wanted to pursue this line further I could always do a masters in illustration or something similar.


Unrelated i thought i'd pass this on, an article I read i thought some of you might find interesting on drawing becoming more popular.
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=269992#post269992

actually it mentions The Prince of Wales Drawing School (http://www.princesdrawingschool.org/), what do you think about it?, its expensive but there was mentioning on the website about a possibility of free places on courses for young people based on talent and other things.

[Dirty C]

Yeah that is cool.

Of course i doubt you'd ever get that lot to attribute the resurgence to its true cause: comic books and japanese cartoons..

And I can't do this Wednesday, I'm actually going to Russian Landscapes in the Time of Tolstoy at the National Gallery with a few people.

On the other hand though, is anyone a Tate member? I have been for nearly a year, and not really used it. But yesterday we went to the Tate Modern to see Edward Hopper, and I discovered that the members room upstairs is one of the best spots in the city. If anyone is, I'd love to take a few of us up there to do some drawing one time - it's brilliant.

[WillDrawForFood]

i enjoyed that hopper exhibition a lot. it was a shame to see his art cheapened by all the merchandise with his images plastered all over them though. dirty_c, you'll have to let me know what that russian landscapes exhibition is like. it looked pretty good from the poster.

[koshime]

Where and when wednesday? anyoen free int eh daytime wednesday? hehe

[Dirty C]

As mentioned before, it's life drawing Monday! The place I'm going to is right by Angel tube, and it's 7 quid a throw, for two hours. They work you pretty well, too, with different lengthed poses. It does however, get very full. So I'm going to try and make it slightly before 7 to make sure I get an easel. Drawing on your knees is ok, but never quite as good..


Link is here: http://www.candidarts.com/candid_arts_trust.htm (click on classes). So who's coming?? Molly, you slack arse, you better make it.

[Dirty C]

Also, this weekend is ze meeting. So who's coming? I've kicked the girlfriend out (she's going to Wales) so we can start as early and go as late as we like. I do have some plans for the Saturday night, but it's a fairly open party I think, so if anyone feels the need to crash at my place the night before, we can do that too. Sofa bed, you understand. Don't love you all *that* much.

I've decided I might go to the Tate Modern again on Saturday and a)take a look at some next-type shit and b)go up to the members lounge balcony and draw for a few hours. Kickass place to do it. I do have room for one more person on my membership, so if anyone wants to tag along, let me know.

[koshime]

I'm in for sunday

[acuna_read]

Will probably come sunday if im not skint, or if i am skint and can be arsed to ride my bike. Though traffic dodging is quite thrilling (riding through southwark/peckham is not though, eek!).

The tate modern is bollox, go to tate, or nat gallery.

Apart from the BT tower (no-go unless your a telephonist person), God's wifes sex toy, and perhpas the Eye, the Tate thingy looks the best spot in town. Alternatively go up on Shooter hill in SE London, can see St.Pauls, eye etc etc...

[Dirty C]

You lot missed a brilliant model. He looked like uncle fester: charcoal on A1 (http://toeslikefingers.com/tmp/life01.jpg)

[cartoonfox]

hey i'm coming sunday, i'll be there about 11am again.

and if we stay later, that would be real cool. as long as i dont miss the 11pm train i'm cool ^-^

looks like we're gonna have quite a few people this time round, should be hella cool. cant wait and i'll bring all my junk for peeps to mess around with ^-^
dirty_c, i expect to see a healthy supply of 7up in the fridge for me ^-^ hah

anyway, yeah looking forward to this.

nice drawing dirty, even better as its with charcoal *cringes* ^-^


peace all

[Molly]

PPL,

I'm up for Sunday - dirty_c, soz about Monday, I know, I'm slack arse, I finished work at 6.30, and I'd be buggered if I tried to get there for 7.00pm. The charcoal pic is niiiice dude. Man, I do miss life drawing. Theres gotta be SOMEWHERE round Deptford...Hmmm

Are we meeting you at Angel - where do live again dirty? Let us all know man...
Anyhoo...Koshime, Acuna look forward to meeting you, SKETCHLING! Where are you? Summer Pud - you still coming??? ANYONE ELSE???? WillDrawForFood? - TroyMcoy? Etc etc...


Mollyx

[Dirty C]

still here: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=531289&y=183709&z=0&sv=n1+0ht&st=2&pc=n1+0ht&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf

Might as well meet at my place, it's really close to the tube, and people will show up at diff times.

actual address:

6b cloudesley square
islington
london n1 0ht

[sketchling]

YO!

Im still coming. been a bit slack about posting... got my head full trying to get to the germany thing... paypal is complicated. Im just gonna do a bank transfer... Im going to the bank to let THEM sort it out... im confuzzled.

Anyways, I will be there!!! Nice pic Dirty_c. It reminds me of life drawing at varsity, only to be honest, of a higher standard than most of the stuff I saw in class. :D Will ya have a wacom? of course... yay. Bill bring ...what? food? Vodka (solvent you understand...)? Pencils, pens?

And now for something COMPLETLY different : http://www.sketchling.com/artwork/Craft_concept1.jpg

See ya all sun
K

[koshime]

Okay - maybe you shoudl stick a sticky Dirty - i.e wht time do we start trouncing into your gf's house. And is there anything you'd like us to bring besides our own set of equipments?

You guys doing anythign tommorow btw?

[Dirty C]

Anytime from about 10's fine. Um, how do I stick a sticky? We've only got this thread, I think, and I thought admins could only do stickies.. maybe I'm wrong.

My mobile's 077 9360 6466 for anyone who wants to call on the day or whatever.

Yeah, I've got my 9x12 Intuos2 Platinum, biiiiiiAAAAAAAAAATCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAHH!!!

[jetpack42]

plz stop posting so Washington can be the biggest group.

:bashful:

[cartoonfox]

haha NEVER!! ^-^


come down to london and join the biggest and best and coolest group around ^-^



peace :7up:

[koshime]

hear hear. I second that motion

[sketchling]

Kiss our collective donkey washington :dur:

This is THE group... awww I love you guys. :bashful:

eh em... anyways, back to work. Churchill needs some lipstick...

[Molly]

*BUMP* :devil:



Mollyx

[Dirty C]

Oh yeah, the Russian exhibition was wicked. I walked in and went "Oh shit, it's just a bunch of paintings of pine trees, this is gonna suck" But when you start looking at Shishkin's paintings you get sucked in. He paints more realistic 3d scenes than I've ever seen, you really feel like you're standing there.

London is indeed the city of culture. Hey, where's Summer Pud at?

[Chermilla]

hey people, how is everyone at the moment?

I'm cool, I'm typing this E-mail at my new job....its going ok, just sooooo tired from all the travelling!! its doing me 'ed in i tell thee!! But its proper Bo!!

hehehe ;)

[Molly]

Ooooh - new job? Wot ya doin' girl?

Mollyx

[Summer Pudding]

Hey, where's Summer Pud at?

I'm right here shammon! I haven't been visiting the forums for a while.

No time to read the last 1000 posts on this thread right now. Have I missed the last UK meet and greet? If not where is it, and who's coming?

Molly mentioned Barontieri might be showing up for it.

ceeyaz all later

<3

[Molly]

Aw man, Summer Pud - I've sent a PM to BARONTiERi for this Sunday. He aint been online for a while. I dunno if I should send an email....

Anyhoo...see you's on Sunday

Mollyx
(another post, thats, what, er 320+ UK vs 300+ to the Washington group.....we shall not be beaten!)

[troymcoy]

Another post closer to the CA group collective unity prize.
Anyway, get some pictures if you have a meet up, it would be cool to see what goes down.

[Dirty C]

EVERYONE! THE DETAILS FOR THE NEXT LONDON MEET, THIS SUNDAY THE 1ST OF AUGUST, ARE HERE: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=271419&postcount=310

Summer Pud, you should come, everyone will call you silly if you don't. I'd said I was up for something the night before too, but actually I'm going to Alton Towers, woohoo!

[cartoonfox]

yep i'll be there about 11:30am

what tube station is it?


peace :7up:

[Dirty C]

angel

[xia]

Cool! I see you guys got somethin somethin going on over here.

Hey (SUMMER) Pudding, what happen to you? Haven't seen you post any speedy in a while.
Thought I just pop here and say Hello!

Hey Molly, Hey Cartoon Fox, Hey Troymcoy, Hey Chermilla...etc.

*Thought I just pop up and say Hi 'cuz dirty-c invites us here.

[Gonzo]

C'mon guys, quit bumping their post count! >:{



...


Dammit! :P

Anyways, just saying hi from Seattle! Yall take any pictures from your meetings? It would be fun to see them.

[troymcoy]

I concur.
Get some photos

[Dirty C]

Sketchling, did you ever post the photos from Kew?

[Molly]

No, he didnt..

Sketchling, if you dont post dem images, next time you leave ur digi cam on the train, I'ma gonna keep it... >:D

For your information, please take some time to read through these emergency procedures. It is for your own safety...

http://www.preparingforemergencies.co.uk/

If you do not speak english, you are buggered....

Mollyx

[young paddy1]

What sort of photo's from kew? Are they dirty? :perv: Full of dirt and trees and plants and stuff

dirty_c Alton Towers woohoo indeed (if you've been before you'll know what I mean) must go on Air but don't bother with Oblivion (2hours wait for a drop and a banked turn, yay) still best going at the end of the year and riding nemesis non-stop for twenty minutes :jawdrop:, getting phone stalked because you put your mobile number on the internet not woohoo, but fun if you get a heavy breather I suppose


I can't be arsed reading that, the leaflety jobby I got at work was bad enough, I think the best plan of action in the event of imminent nuclear attack would probably be, nick a lorry full of tinned food, disappear down a cave, and if you have time kill all politicians close at hand.

Anyway enjoy sunday, I'm going to be having great fun plastering a toilet's walls and ceiling. :yawn:

[sketchling]

Im sorry :bashful:

Um... yeah. Will try have em online this weekend... will bring em to the meet at any rate. And I wont be leaving that digital camera on tha train again... my mom now owns it... but ill be gettin a 4m-pixel, 10x optical zoom beaut soon, so dont worry, the photo's will continue!!! Just more of em.... :D

That dept of vague paranoia thing is really funny... and rather true.

Lookin forward to sunday... dirty_c you have a mac or a pc laptop?

Anyways, sorry about the photos, will have em soon.

Got a new digi-painting too : http://www.sketchling.com/artwork/pond&hut.jpg
Doodle-turned-scene. Photoshop 2hrs between other work.
(dirty-c : again, no definable light source but im workin on it :rolleyes: )

[Matt Dixon]

Lovely atmosphere in that scene, Sketchling. :star:

[acuna_read]

From those old WW2 vids we were shown in school I was in the zone that if a nuclear bomb was to be dropped on St.Pauls id die slowly over a few hours with my skin bubbling and burning away. Though a piece of corrugated steel might save my life.

btw if your gonna run from a bomb/chemical thing I hope your fast. Im a lazy git so ill just wait to die, less tiring for me!

Alton-Towers, Bazza and Shazza Heaven!

[sketchling]

Thanks Matt :hatsoff:

[Chermilla]

Ooooh - new job? Wot ya doin' girl?

Mollyx

I is working in Q&A AT sega

[Molly]

@ Chermilla - niiiice one girl!

Lads 'n' Lasses, lets pop over to this thread (link below), and throw some verbal abuse at the Washington group. It seems President Jetpack isa sturring upa some trouble. Lets give it to 'im!

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=27534

Mollyx

[clayton]

hi,

I'm in london now. when do we met?

[clayton]

or where do we met?

[cartoonfox]

hey clayton, cool your in london. just in time ^-^

we are meeting this sunday. anytime after 10am (i'll be there about 11:30am)
there is a map posted a few posts up, by dirty_c, we'll be hangin out at his house all day. should be hella cool.

see you then


peace :7up:

[cartoonfox]

k here we go

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=271419&postcount=310


the nearest station is angel




peace :7up:

[cartoonfox]

hey everyone, dont forget to bring all your crap! ^-^ (markers etc)
i'll be bringing most of my stuff ('coro' inks, gouache, markers etc)

see you all tommorrow




peace :7up:

[jetpack42]

Seattle challenges you to a brutal drawing funfest.

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=27636

Thunderdome On!

[acuna_read]

FECK!!!!!

Ive just got myself up and sorted out, at 1:30. Sorry for not turning up today :zzz: :nohope:

Well if anyone wants to make mini meets weekly or whatever (assuming i dont go out and then actually get up!) then just say. Molly? Your close. Oogling the foreign student girls in Greenwich park was a favourite past-time of mine as school boy......

I vaguely understand this Thunderdome thingy and sounds like fun. As long as I get to draw a car or bike...

[Dirty C]

Speaking for the five people in my lounge, we accept. So, maggots, get ready.

The first thing is, we need to change the deadline. Several of us are in Berlin for Marko and Android's workshop until the day before, and I'm in Sardinia until the 6th. So how about Wednesday the 18th for the deadline, and this Wednesday, the 4th, for the challenges? It's quick, but it's only one drawing, and letting these things take too long is the best way to get slack and not bother.

How's that?

Posting this over there as well.

[sketchling]

Well, that was possible the most productive day iv had in AGES. Was great to see new faces!! AND I managed to completly mislead The fox-man in a tour of the tube... circle line does go to Paddington after all... sorry man, hope ya got home ok! Oh, and thanks for guarding my pens, Dirty_c... good thing I have more pens than common sense dictates... can still draw at home anyways!

Well, here's the pic I did as a photoshop demo :
http://www.sketchling.com/artwork/CA_paint.jpg
Fiddled the colours and stuff when I got home, cause they were wierd... LCD screens do change the colour somewhat. If anyone ever needs any photoshop help, just shout... then shout again when ya want me to shut up.

usb drive is doing a fritz on this motherboard, so im gonna upload the photos tomorrow at work.

[koshime]

your art stuff rules!

[troymcoy]

Nice environment sketchling...
I'm starting to get more into this kind of stuff now thanks to some mullins inspiration.
Are there any photos from the meetup?
thanks

[Molly]

Hey Guys,

Sun 1st Aug - a cool meet. Very constructive. Especially Sketchlings demo in PS (link above in his post)... Koshime - real nice to meet you, ur work is cool man...Clayton - thanx for dropping by man, have a safe trip home!

Anyhoo, I've been over to the Lounge, and the Washington lot have added a good few names. We need to too. Matt Dixon PM'd me, so we have him in our troops. I know theres some more out there, so get in here and sign up!

I'm going to check out the rest of the WA lot, see who I can beat to the ground!

- I took the liberty of doing a search on all the WA lot, and came up with these links to samples of work. some I couldn't find, either they havent posted anything, or I got a red X...

prostate_sunrise vs dirty_c
skrubbles vs cartoonfox

gasmask
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=26847

Sok N.Wett
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=24764

nova
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=26013

eliwolff
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=26739

tagHeuer – cant find any sample work(or the spelling may be wrong)

Ruptured_Gastank – cant find sample work (keep looking tho)

Ben Mauro
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=21839

Xia
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=14028

jetpack42
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=25821

redehlert – cant find sample work ( I get the red ‘X’ thingy)

Undertow – cant find any sample work, soz.

Stokes
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=27706


Mollyx
:D

[sketchling]

HAHA... dirty_c couldnt stop himself...Wicked man... love it.

most of the photos from our meet are up at
http://www.sketchling.com/photos/CA_1stAUG/index.htm

I have proposed the topic of
'a museum in the year 4000 (aliens have made contact many times)'
to nova... lets see what happens :D

Koshime, great meeting you... I have much to learn from ya, so I hope to see ya again soon. Love yer craft and paintings.. very stark and clear images, gorgeous.

[troymcoy]

Cool, thanks for the photos.

I'd join the challenge now if the subject could be a b&w study of a sargent painting...maybe i'll join in if I finish this.

[Matt Dixon]

Nice environment pic, Sketchling.

Seems fair if you genuine sketch group peoples choose your adversaries before I step in. For the record, I fancy Xia or Stokes...

[cartoonfox]

hey cool pics sketchling. and yeah, i got home... EVENTUALLY!! ^-^

hey matt, glad we can have you on our team (even if you dont come to the meetings ^-^)



peace :7up:

[lowpolymatt]

Anyone else needed? I think I can afford a bit of time to do some scribbles...


EDIT: I'll take anyone on.... so I dont mind who im up against..

I'll take xia or stokes dependant on which one Matt picks...or anyone else whos left...Im unfussy..

[Summer Pudding]

Alright m'loves?

It's a lowdown dirty shame I couldn't make it the other day. Looks like you had a laugh. I won't be here for a wee while on account of moving up to live in Manchester in a week or so.

P.S. If I find the time to paint, I'll take on any of that Seattle/Washington rabble. Count me in. What's the procedure? How's it being arranged?

<3 love and snogs <3

Pud'

[Crane]

Hey guys, a kentster here. currently in telford, 200 miles away so it would be a little hard going to these group meet ups.
New here, so yea, need to be told all the latest stuff going down.
>To Molly< I had Robin (acuna_read msg you, because I couldn't log on and do it myself, I think you got it.
So yea, somewhere along the lines of his msg.
Would love to get outta the house and meet some artists >You guys<
Thanks!!!
Sayonara

[Matt Dixon]

TagHeuer's stuff -

Eli Heuer's portfolio (http://www.eliheuer.com/)

[jetpack42]

I'm going to check out the rest of the WA lot, see who I can beat to the ground!


we'll bring a wet paper bag to our next meet, so you could officially challenge it!

THE match to watch...

Molly VS Seattle's wet paper bag.

Fight!

[lowpolymatt]

So would I be right in saying I'm up against Xia? If so Xia, take your pick of these subjects...

"One too many"
"Look out, look out he/she's behind you!"
"Is that it?"
"You think you're better than us?"
"If I had a pound/dollar for every time that happened..."

....and I will take the same subject and see if I come close to whooping you...


Ta
Matt

[jetpack42]

here is a link to redehlert's work

http://staff.washington.edu/dehlert/index.html

[lowpolymatt]

Ok here's a few scibbles I've done lately...I haven't had a lot of time for 2d art what with a family and work (3d modeller/animator/anythingelsethatsneeded) so dont be too damning...

anyway...whatever you throw at me, i'll better....


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/lowpolymatt/red-spacesuit.jpg
3 hours yesterday (Sunday) mucking about in painter

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/lowpolymatt/unfinished.jpg
Opencanvas, unfinished...something to do with a 3d project I've been toying with..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/lowpolymatt/painty_02.jpg
trying out photoshop dry brushes...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/lowpolymatt/lancaster.jpg
Something done for a game proposal which was dropped...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/lowpolymatt/planet_factory_hi.jpg
Something done in the introductory stages of the UK group..

Not a lot but its a start...

[Matt Dixon]

Hey, kids. I know I was going to wait until all the regulars were sorted out but Stokes picked on me, and no one calls my pencil a puff! The challenge -

Battle of the Bands
Choose yourself a current, past, or imaginary musical artist ( or group ) and set them up for battle, Thunderdome style! Produce a single illustration showing your performer in all their ass-thumpin', tricked-out, post-apocalyptic, rock 'n' rollery!

Really looking forward to some of these contests..!

[lowpolymatt]

This is all so 'Robot Wars'! Fantastic...in a tongue in cheek kind of way....

EDIT: So Xia, is it me vs you, or shall I pick someone else....Im not sure who's left...

[Dougbot]

Am I drawing against anyone? How do I set this up? It's like a Fight Club for art dorks :wink:

[sketchling]

I resemble that remark...

[Dirty C]

Closely.

The idea is, you look through Molly's cornucopia of references, and find someone who's about your level, or that you think might make a good challenge (or just interesting) then you call them out in the other thread. Not too much organisation, just get in there!

[Matt Dixon]

Is anyone in touch with Barontieri? If we need to swell the British ranks, we might as well try to lay our hands on some WMD...

[sketchling]

HAHAHA... like that.

oh, and...
:gasmask: :left: Some reference for ya dirty_c....

[Summer Pudding]

Looks like I'm taking on XIA. His figures are really good. I'll have my work cut out here.

[troymcoy]

Its strange, I always thought Xia was a girl...

[Molly]

Hey Fellas,

about BARONTiERi - I'll send him a PM or someone else can if they want. We did chat on Sunday at the meet, but by mobile phone I'm afraid. He was in town, but nowhere near us lot.

I think I'ma gonna challenge Ben Mauro. I've had a butchers through his stuff.
@troymcoy - yeah I thought Xia was girl. I think I may have actually refered to him once as 'hey girlie' *shrugs*

Jetpack - is 'Wet Paper Bag' ur new username?

Mollyx *fisty cuffs!* >:|

[Matt Dixon]

I PM'd BARONTiERi earlier today, along with pixelherder and DaveTheOriginal.

Perhaps they'd respond better to a bit of female charm though, Molly?

[lowpolymatt]

PIXELHERDER! Get yo dumbass in here and bring your crayons dammit!

EDIT: Just for Xia, I used to work with pixelherder too before I get burnt for being rude to him also... ;)

[koshime]

Still Trying to find someone within my weapon range.
Any advice/help be appreciated *griN*

I'd like to paint some floating castles....and lots of cloudscapes...

[troymcoy]

Perhaps a civil war is in order, i'd really like to see some Koshime VS Ceenda floating castles action, but I guess that isn't allowed.

[koshime]

who is ceenda. pardon my ignorance

[Molly]

I PM'd BARONTiERi earlier today, along with pixelherder and DaveTheOriginal.

Perhaps they'd respond better to a bit of female charm though, Molly?

hehe...I'll send em one too, tho you never know, you may be charming enough... :)

Mollyx

[Matt Dixon]

Doubtful, Molly. ;)

Koshime - Ceenda's website (http://www.flyingislands.co.uk)

[acuna_read]

Good luck Uk'ers (and immigrants/travellers), you wont need it though! :confident

I'll be doing this to support you :vodkamachine: and then this :cheerleader: . So yous lot keep doing this :painting: and the Seattle people can do this :traced:

BTW, the pictures of seattle look pretty good whoever did them, and is that building not a space ship, i saw it in a film once so it must be true.

[xia]

I PM'd BARONTiERi earlier today,


No Baronteri! He's French isn't he? It doesn't count, unless he reside there for a long while.... (just kidding)

Bring it on!
Shit! We are doomed!

[lowpolymatt]

I was really looking forward to this thunderdome thing, just for a bit of fun. Thing is, I'm not so sure now....crap eh..

[Summer Pudding]

lowpolymatt>>> don't mess about man. We need your skills! You could do a lot worse than challenge gasmask btw. I saw a really impressive pic he posted a few weeks back, and think it'd be a good, closely fought showdown.

why not give him a tinkle.

[xia]

Come on now,..Lowpolymatt. I am just a stupid Jerk and no one likes me (not even my family, my friends, or my co-workers), listen to SummerPudding.

:)

[gasmask]

im down for lowpoly although are styles are pretty diff, as hes more paint guy and im more a tech guy so if i want to work somethin out im all for it unless anyone else wants me.

[jetpack42]

Come on now,..Lowpolymatt. I am just a stupid Jerk and no one likes me (not even my family, my friends, or my co-workers), listen to SummerPudding.

:)

he's right, I don't like him either.

[troymcoy]

and I thought he was a girl until today...

[young paddy1]

I have to admit whole hearted lazyness, can't be bothered reading the thread to find out what's going on, by the sound of it it's some thunderdomish thing, good job I'm shit removes my obligations as to anything. Be cheering for ya UK, you know you're gonna win.

BTW what's with moths, every goddamn night I'm getting dive bombed by some suicidal insect.

[Matt Dixon]

Looks like we have some tasty latecomers to the ranks! I can't wait to see some of the work these battles are going to produce...

SPud - Have you rallied Lionhead's entire art department?! Nice one!

[Summer Pudding]

SPud - Have you rallied Lionhead's entire art department?! Nice one!

Yeah, it's looking that way. I thought my tele-photo lens would pay off one day. Always keep the negatives, that's my motto.

[ceenda]

One of you Lionhead peeps go tell Peter Molyneux to redo Powermonger. I'm getting bored waiting for someone to do a remake... :bashful:

[Summer Pudding]

One of you Lionhead peeps go tell Peter Molyneux to redo Powermonger. I'm getting bored waiting for someone to do a remake...


Sure, Powermonger was a great game, but welcome to the 21st century fella! I think Medieval would be right up your street. Rome: Total War is out in September, and there's talk of a ..........(get ready to drool, cos I know you like your Cornwell)



Napoleonic version on the horizon too.

Here's the Rome site

http://www.totalwar.com/community/rome.htm

[ceenda]

Haha, "no neeeeed" (as Mark & Lard used to say, before they got fired for being generally unfunny...).

I think Total War is one of those games that never seems to get uninstalled from my PC. I always go back to playing it now and again.

Sometimes, when I'm bored, I create 2 custom armies, one packed full of Peasants, the other packed full of Turkish Cannons.

Yes... I'm a sad, sad man...

[EDIT - woah, misread the Napoleonic bit. Hooray! Do I get to play Sean Bean soon? (Albeit a slightly shorter, stouter version of him...) ]

[acuna_read]

This post os for 2 reasons:

1) To stp them silly Washington creatures from being at the top :D
and
2) To wonder if yous lot (ie Londoners, home counties and anyone who can afford the fare) are gonna meet up before the 19th for encouragement and general ego boosting before the deadline.

Any thoughts?(that are relevant to this post :bashful: )

Theyre gonna wish thed gone to sleep after this contest! :} :rolleyes:

[young paddy1]

Nothing relevant to the post above, just posted to say I now have a small fast flowing river running down my road and it's pitch bloody black outside, pissing down with rain.
Buxton lives up to its name as the water capital of britain.

[Richie]

hi all,
preety new here so any londoners here off to berlin? im taking an easyjet flight 2103 departs London Luton at 06:30, so just an advance hello.

[sketchling]

Hey richie!

Yeah, im going to berlin. Molly's goin on yer flight I think, but im gettin the late flight on the friday... gonna arrive in berlin at like nine pm. but who cares... cause its gonna ROCK!!!

:D
See ya there!
K

[Molly]

Hi Richie,

Yep, I'm on ur flight, tho, I dunno what ur arrangements are; where you staying? Theres a big arse group of us staying at Mitte Backpackers -

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=26206

- You'll have to see if you can bunk wit someone, i know of 2 dorms that are already full. It's 3 pages long, have a read thro anyway, you may find someone to share with.

What do you look like man?

Mollyx

[koshime]

its been pissing for two days and two nights....
what will the land of the flemish brussels hold for this intrepid traveller.....
hope you guys enjoy/choke on germanic food *heheh*.
Tis bland

[ceenda]

Brussels is one of the coolest cities I think I've been to. Was there a couple of months back on a mate's stag night (stag weekend, more accurately). So much beeeeer. :blahblah:

Though the locals kept lifting our kilts. :(

[Molly]

......Though the locals kept lifting our kilts. :(

hehe, I would.....:rendered:

Ceenda - I love your work. Seriously, I had a butchers at ur site, so cool, is it PS or Painter?....

Mollyx

[Dirty C]

Awight.

Anyone keen to meet up tomorrow night? (Wednesday). I'd like to hassle Kim and get some tips for the battle styles, as I kinda think I'm gonna give up on what i was doing.

Somewhere where we can spread out and I can bring my laptop is probably the best. Soho might be a bit shit in that case. I'm happy to nominate somewhere in Angel, as obviously there's loads, but if anyone has a better idea, let me know.

[sketchling]

Id 100% be there, but must find out what me mums doing... she's visiting from SA, so I have to priorotize :D

Ill be there 90of the time, WHENEVER anyone plans stufff.

K

[Molly]

Hey ppl,

dirty_c - I'm well up for Weds night.
I was thinking of The Horniman pub in London Bridge. It's by the River, big place, we could sit inside, theres a small upstairs bit we could hang in.
Dunno, seems like a nice place:
London Bridge (http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=533278&y=180393&z=1&sv=533250,180250&st=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf)
The arrow is pointing to a Ship, if u look below, theres 'The Hays Galleria.' the Horniman pub is through there, on the river front.
It's 5 min from London Bridge Stn, and on the Northern Line, so easy to get home. Sketchling, if you want we could meet nearer SoHo, I don't mind going there, I know the distance you gotta travel....

its just an idea...

Mollyx

[Alex Kaiser]

I'd be up for coming into London tomorrow, around what time are you guys meeting up?

[acuna_read]

I might come along too if thats ok.

Molly is that the big shopping centre near the design museum, think tis'.

Let us know, a doddle to get to by the looks of it.

[cartoonfox]

damn you londoners... ^-^

*shakes fist*





peace :7up:

[Matt Dixon]

Hey, kids.

Seeing as we're a bit spread out, most of us won't get the chance to meet up before the Drizzledome deadline - do you think there'd be any benefit from a virtual meeting to discuss / crit our entries?

Obviously we can post WIPs here, but not everyone may wish to have their stuff displayed publicly and those sneaky Seattlites will get to hear our secrets.

I can't be arsed with those instant messenger things, so I thought perhaps it would work best via email - if we all share email addresses, it'd be easy to send links to sketches around to everyone in the group, and we'd soon get some dialogue going. Only problem is that an email frenzy to a dozen recipients might start to get a bit messy. Poshspice works with me, so we can bounce ideas off each other, but it's good to get a fresh set of eyes on your work from time to time...

What do you think?

[koshime]

damn. I was in lon the whole day today. Over at Victoria, Soho, oxford circus, convent garden, trocadero...so knackered now..i'll give tommorow a miss, and posphone till post berlin. heheeh
unless there is another meet soon.

I'm off to ghen this friday..for some nice flemish meals...and lotsa beautiful architecture, compliments of hyver and wolf (son's name)

[Dirty C]

you named your son wolf? cool, but keep him away from cartoonfox.

molly's idea sounds great. i will probably be able to make it at about 6,15-6.30. don't quote me though, things have this way of exploding at my work just now..

ps i changed my avatar to fool kim - bet he doesn't know who this is till he finishes reading the post tehe

[cartoonfox]

you named your son wolf? cool, but keep him away from cartoonfox.

hehe, that made me laugh.

man you guys are so lucky. i dont have anyone to go out and draw with *cries* ^-^


have fun you guys, and i'll see sketchling and molly in berlin. yay cant wait.
(btw, molly, i email the backpacker and he said that we have a shower room for our room, dunno if i miss interpurated[sp?] what he said. and also, good news our room will be plain (alot of the rooms are themed, but dont look to nice ^-^))



peace all :7up:

[Dirty C]

hahaha, it means you're staying in one of those dodgy highway Love Hotels like on the Simpsons.

The 'shower room' is where the hos wash themselves out buddy :$

[Molly]

Hey, kids.

Seeing as we're a bit spread out, most of us won't get the chance to meet up before the Drizzledome deadline - do you think there'd be any benefit from a virtual meeting to discuss / crit our entries?

Obviously we can post WIPs here, but not everyone may wish to have their stuff displayed publicly and those sneaky Seattlites will get to hear our secrets.

I can't be arsed with those instant messenger things, so I thought perhaps it would work best via email - if we all share email addresses, it'd be easy to send links to sketches around to everyone in the group, and we'd soon get some dialogue going. Only problem is that an email frenzy to a dozen recipients might start to get a bit messy. Poshspice works with me, so we can bounce ideas off each other, but it's good to get a fresh set of eyes on your work from time to time...

What do you think?


- Cool idea. I know dirty_c emailed me a WIP of his pic. I could do the same man, as I'd like a crit on mine. (Tho, if ur bringing ur laptop tonite, I'll show you then...) Email info is in everyones 'Profile' thingy...
Acuna & Alex - 6.30pm at the Horniman, walk throught the Hays Galleria,
(bell me if you get lost: 07932907779) theres a really cool engine/creature like sculpture in there...well, I think it's cool.... :bashful:

Mollyx

[Matt Dixon]

Actually they're not, Molly - you can send a message via email, but the email address itself is hidden to escape those naughty spam spiders.

Maybe it's not such a good idea ( seeing as you're the only one who responded ;) ), but if anyone does want to get some discussion going and maybe some comments on their work, drop me an email through my website (http://www.matt-dixon.co.uk/contact.htm) - I'll then mail back to everyone so we have a little mailing list to reply to.

[Molly]

@ Matt - soz, well spotted. I have sent you an email :)

PEOPLE - Lets help eachother out and crit one-another so as to get the best out of all with this challenge! Send PMs, email, etc etc

Lets beat the shit out of those Yankies!

Mollyx

[sketchling]

Hey MAtt :D Sorry, I did respond but somehow managed to lose (ctrl-w I think) the 3 paragraphs I wrote and it being 12:30 I couldn face writing them again! Basically the gist of it was that it might be worthwhile just posting in this forum... but for the near-final stuff maybe we should do the mail thing. My mail is sketchling@yahoo.com. Though im still in rough sketch stage... will try scan durin lunch.

And as for the meeting, im sorry, but I cant make it... Id LOVE to be there but I have to put my mom higher on the priority list, after all she has flown 12 hours just to visit her, so i should probably be around!!! :D

Have a great time! Oh, and Im going to be takin more photos soon... just got a new camera. :D :D :D

[acuna_read]

I'll post some sketches up in a few days so you pros can giggle at the, then hopefully offer me tips (preferrably not, 'give up' :blah: ). I'll send some via e-mail to you too Matt :rendered:

I'll see whoevers at this place around 6-6:30 then. Look out for 12 yr old looking long haired (past shoulders and totally unkempt) ginger lad! Probably bopping along to some shit rock music! 8)

[koshime]

Dirty_C, Hyver's sons name is wolf (not sure if it is short for Wolfred or something)

[cartoonfox]

yeah i'll send some wips out in a few days to you lot who want them ^-^
and if anyone wants to send me some of their wips, so i can crit and pretend i know what i'm talking about ^-^ my email is mirlo[at]cartoonfox.com


have fun tonight you guys




peace :7up:

[Dirty C]

wahey! good night out with our two new buddies. me, molly, acuna and alex had a few wodkas and a bit of a smoke and i just made it home. good night, though i sprained myself in the nads with alex's poi thingy. hadda sit down for about 20 minutes, not so good.

alex got loads of pics, so we'll hopefully see them soon.

[Crane]

Hey, its no fair guys, i could easily get to london if i was at home!! but nooo, i got stuck up mums while my dad goes to france for 4 weeks...neeeerrr...
Prob wouldn't get into the pub, but mayb i coulda, since u guys are adults and all, and i could just sit in the corner drinkin coke (because beer and other stuff taste like shite, yes u heard me) and smokins a nono and i've never tried, yea, call me a chicken, or watever u call people smart enuff to say no!!!
sry, bit carried away there.
But ya, would be great, hangin out with the 'PROS', ya so im 16, big deal, doesn't mean im stupid. succumb to me!! not...well u can if u want to..no big deal...don't throw your cells fones at me (which i also think are stupid)
erm...i forgot wat i was rantin about....o yea, anyway..mayb sometime i could come alot too, when i can ya know..and don't turn your heads away just because im 16.....Im an artist!!! an artist i tells ya!! acuna likes me, don't u, hu hu??..you love me rite?!! y don't u love me!!??? i watch you all the time, and im cute and beautiful, just like all the other boys!! (not really, its just an act) lov meee!!!!!...
thats concludes my....speech...neerr...sayonara!!! (see i no japanese!!!)
Free your mind, man!! :x

[acuna_read]

HAHA, dirty-c you sucker, gotta work tomoz (and Molly) lol :blahblah:

Yeah those things were fucking dangerous, Alex are you gonna light them next time :blah: :teeth:

For anyone wanting to know theyre all nut-cases. I'm getting a restraining order put on them. Only kidding, theyre all good people and fuckin good at drawing, but dirty-c's purple alien has funny eyes! :dur:

Good to meet you guys, and I learnt about eggs, which is really helpful actually. thanks dirty_c

And i got pissed on walking from the station, not to mention going to platform 6 when my train for some unusual reason was on platform 4 then pegging it across!

P.S. We were also joined by at least 1, possibly 2 mice. Not sure if Alex named em lol

B_n_b, I look 12, 13 according to dirty, and no-one questioned me! 8)

Anyway will be good to learn off you more in the future, P.S.S Molly dont forget those insect pics, i didnt finish the flea. Actually none of us did any work i dont think, at least not for this comp anyway! :S :teeth:

[Crane]

People!! let me know if im worthy!!
im really hyper, 'ignore hypernessshipnessnessshippy...ness...nerrrr 'hides behind chair'
i gotta stop drinkin that warm apple juice, makes me weirded...
ya...anyway...free your mind man!!!...damnit sry..
but ya, let me know if i could come along some time....well im goin if u say i can't anyway!!! i'll be the little black bag shufflin along..possibly wheezin from lack of air.
ok, yea, cross over the road so you don't have to come near me, hope you get hit by a bus...hypocrite!!!
baka neko!!!
yep, more japanese!!
Tony san!! hyper tony san..
Free your mind, man!!

[lowpolymatt]

So the Seattle challenge....hows everyone getting on?

I've had about 2 hours or so to sketch and thats about it so I'm probably a bit behind. I'll scan something in tonight and post it to MattD so you guys can have a gander if you want. Bear in mind my challenge with gasmask is a non digital challenge (thats how he wanted it) So for the moment it's pencil n paper only. Anyway, I'll hopefully get something together tonight.

Later folks
Matt

[Dirty C]

Yeah, not so well. Since seeing what my pic looked like after it was flipped last night, I've pretty well discarded the first attempt for a far more radical approach I've been developing. For those there last night, it was the big weird pointy thing - but I'm gonna develop it a bit further.

[sketchling]

2 hours... im still on the thumbnail half-hour stage. Had me mom visiting so I am not even at home at the moment... BUT never fear, I have an image in me head!!!!!! willtry post thumbs tomollo or later today for people to look at...

BTW Dirty_C... I happened to be looking at your name when the browser loaded up the new icon... so I didnt get fooled... but thanks for the thought.. nice to know you care :P Feel the love.

Im glad you guys had a great time... im in for the next one :D

OH... dirty-C, guess what... MPC looks like its doing free life drawing sessions soon... 8) :P
:vodkamachine:

[koshime]

Well, here is my WIP.
Short of adding details, I reckon I'm going to kill this image with too much saturation adn colour. Some colour control elp needed....pls

http://www.medievalfx.com/concept/ruinsca13.jpg

[Molly]

Hello UK'ers

acuna_read told me about this. There's a free screening of Back To The Future in Greenwich Park, this Saturday 14th Aug.

I know, I know, we should be working on our Challenge, BUT if anyones up for it, I'll be heading over there with the BF around 7pm. Nice park, good view over Canary Wharf/London.
Most likely to be packed out, but it's a biiiig park so...

Anyway, bring beer, wine, vodka - whatever. :)

Cheerio,
Mollyx

[acuna_read]

More info here, http://www.stellascreen.co.uk/stellascreen/index.jsp

I dont know what time it starts but id (I just checked, read at bottom) assume it will get packed so get there earlier if your going. No glass is allowed apparently :upset: but ive no idea how they will check this as i dont think it gonna be cordoned off. Just dont try taking handfulls of pint glasses in. But plastic is allowed.

I'll be down there some people (assuming they can stagger from Weatherspoons) so might see people there...... dazily though. :zzz:

Film starts at 8:45, and just checked that Master & Commander is on tonight at same time (8:45). Have fun if you go! :bashful:

[Rhaucan]

Glad its not just me who hasn't really got much yet. I've been putting loads of time in to decisions that don't really matter. Mines wizard v warrior. I keep thinking i'm writing a book about them or something. Well anyway i'm trying to keep it as simple as possible at first and then add more in the way of interesting detail on armour and a pretty spell effect or something. I have a tendancy to choose the most complicated out of all options.
I'm a bit in the dark about how much work is actually expected for this and how seriously everyone is taking it. I guess i'll just try and do the best I can do. :teeth:

[Dirty C]

I think next time we'll rip the guts out of it and make it a week, to be honest. To begin with, everyone was pretty serious, but then all tailed off. With a week, you'll just get going and do it. At the time, two weeks sounded pretty fast, but I reckon the faster the better.

Have to say though, the feedback from alex, molly and senor read was invaluable. that's the best thing about the meets - it doesn't matter what someone's skill level is, you can invariably learn something from them. Still gotta set my 4d mouse up kaiser-style though.

[ceenda]

Molly: Oops, I haven't been keeping up with the thread. Thankyou. :)

[Dirty C]

Sketchling: that mean you're gonna invite me in to kick your ass?

:D

[Molly]

haha - dirty_c & sketchling at it,who's gonna kick who's arse! Hhmm sounds filthy...

@Alex Kaiser & acuna - nice to meet you both, Alex is insaaane! King of swinging pois (next time with fire?) acuna - go draw man!

Will post a wip of my challenge at some point, need to scan. From what I've seen - niiiiiice - keep it ppl! For now, naked birds in boiler suits....
(check link 2 sketchbook below)

Mollyx

[Alex Kaiser]

Weeeeeeeeeeeee

re-hydrating yourself with vodka after 4 hours of walking, no food or water gives you a headache. Really, it does.

I put up the pictures on photobucket, but I'm afraid I have no idea how to make a neat little page, so I'm going to swarm this post with links. These picture are from the meeting, direct from the London Bridge, when everyone took my swinging balls.....er poi.. and swung them around their head. Resulting in hitting themselves. Repeatedly.

So here they are. 20 of em.

(The first sequence is carefully articulated by dirty C where he's dancin' he's swingin' he goes for the double whoop tripple decker something, whoooooomp, looked painful. - trust me I know the feeling.)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/Photos/London17.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/Photos/London16.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/Photos/London15.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/Photos/London14.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/Photos/London13.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/Photos/London12.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/Photos/London11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/Photos/London10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/Photos/London09.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/Photos/London08.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/Photos/London07.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/Photos/London06.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/Photos/London05.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/Photos/London04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/Photos/London03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/Photos/London02.jpg

Alrighty. Next time I'm going to bring some parafin, and the real fun can begin!
INIT haha.

As for noodles, anyone want to help me buy 20 kilograms and fill a bath with them? (only a pound for 2 kg in tesco)

Also I did some initial thumbnail and sketching on the challange pic, if anyone as any ideas, with martist a gothic - type scene, with focus on atmosphere/environment/architecture.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/Photos/DSCF0025.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/Photos/Sketc3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/Photos/Sketch2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/Photos/Sketch4.jpg

And with undertow, a david vs. goliath type scene, something small taking on something big, with emphais on movement/motion.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/Photos/Sketch5.jpg

Whew, long post.

-Alex.

oh yeah. go to www.joecartoon.com (the use of mind-altering substances is higly recommended when viewing this site.)

[olblue]

Allo, Im from up in Durham as an introduction and hi to all UK artists. Requesting permission to join the general banter as a moderately new pencil artist and an old hack (literally) CG artist. I work from home with a large young family so I suspect that trips to the Smoke for a smoke may be out of my league for the moment, however I possibly can send some Tesco noodles for that bath Alex is planning (take out the chilli bits first though if you are using the Blue Dragon ones - or wear airtight underwear)

Incidentally, if anyone knows any good mech artists point em my way ;)

Cris

[Crane]

Hey new guy. I got some links for ya mechyness, not quite sure wat kind you want so, i'll send ya wat I have.
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/i/g/igino/igino.html
http://www.flames-of-vengence.co.uk/Battletech/japanese_battletech/japanese_battletech_cover.html
This guy has some pretty good mechs and stuff, most in the misc or cnc area
http://www.tjframe.com/Gallery/GalleryPage.htm
My fave Artist http://spinefinger.netfirms.com/main.htm
Hope It helps.
Free your mind, man

[Schlo-mo]

I like sketch four alex, nice stuff.

[Hyver]

Am reporting from Belgium,
Lovely medieval city this is. Lots of cathedals and picteresque scenes.
Hyvers, best of all organised a smashin 8 hours worth of life drawin with an excellent model - almost perfect specimen of female musculature coupled with belgium beer 6.2 percent...

I would recommend Ghent for a day trip to anyone visiting belgium.

right, back to drawing more mechs, models and landscape

NB - psst, btw its Koshime here; using Hyvers account. hehehehehe

[koshime]

Alex - I like sketch 4 and 25, nice enviros :wink:

[Dirty C]

Nice sketches, Alex! can see why you're doing architecture!

[sketchling]

Yeah... I second that alex! Gorgeous scenery. Lookin forward to meetin ya at the next meet!

Koshime - Yer WIP is looking awsome man... very cool. Yeah, good luck puttin a critter in it though... maybe make a fallen stone statue in honour of the late lord Fred "fuzzy-critters" Malone lyin on the floor??? Hahaha.

:blahblah: K

[Rhaucan]

Here you go olblue, hope you find some things you were looking for

http://www.drawthrough.com/designport/index.html

Everytime I read about these meets that are going on the more eager I get to go to one. Shame i'm all the way up here in manchester. Maybe in time i'll get eager enough to empty my wallet and get down their. Theres some good stuff and artists up here in the north though, perhaps one day there could be a more central meet.

Until then it'll just be through this forumn :teeth:

[Molly]

Hey All,

Alex - love the pics man, thnx for postin! Nuff fun had by all innit?! hehe
Sketches 2 & 4 mate, rrreal nice, and the last one at the bottom, I like the perspective on that one...

Rhaucan - we'll have to have a meet more central at some point, get EVERYONE down. :teeth:

olblue - welcome aboard man!

Mollyx

[acuna_read]

I look like a knob in those, maybe i do in general, but particularly in those! :nohope:

I also discovered i am unable to use my left arm in any meaningful way whatsoever!

The church, 3, and the last are my fav's, all good though!

[lowpolymatt]

Black Neon and Old Blue...welcome aboard!

I would take a wild guess that everyone is super busy with either life or this seattle challenge which is why you haven't had much response. Dont take it personally, sometimes this place goes days without an entry. Sometimes its going all day!


The rest of you.....you motley crew...
I'm not going to have much time to do much on my entry as this week is super busy, so I've spent a few hours today finishing up my idea.

It's been...interesting. I've not used Pencil and markers etc for this kind of thing in a long time. And Greyscale only too....(Gasmasks Idea) I have to say though it was kinda fun to get back to the old roots...I dont really care whether I win or not, because its been a bit of fun to just play with the concept ' Is that it? ' and come up with something I found appropriate. You'll see it soon enough...hopefully you'll all appreciate it.

Anyway, good luck to you all, lets hope we've all enjoyed it eh!

Matt

[Crane]

Thanks lowpoly!!! see, its wasn't that hard.
Anyway, I need to get some drawings up, they not amazinly good since im 16, and i ain't got a scanner to get them up with, but i'll ask my mum if i can use her digi cam, then hopefully i'll be able to join in the seattle challenge! and kickass!! to a limit.
I'll be home on 28 augest or however u spell the god damn months name. then i'll be able to go to meetins and use scanner. I'll be appling at KIAD, so if anyone wants to wish me luck, feel free.!

Free your mind!

[olblue]

Thanks guys, I managed to find a concepts artist that does mechs, so I can now relax and pile out 3d again. Im still practicing my thumbnailing though so that I can eventually do my own concept stuff. Its kind of embarrasing as a lot of good 3d artists are great sketchers, I however... am not still ;) Practice... drink... practice...

Cris

nb. I know its not a sketch however I thought I may as well contribute something :)

I worked on this for 3 months nearly as a training pack to show other people how to model big mechanical things. I call this one "Bert"
The APU (http://www.3d-palace.com/crisimages/apu1.jpg)

[Dirty C]

Shit, feel free to send the link to the whole tutorial!

If I were a girl mech, I'd give Bert my number.

[sketchling]

What? yer serial number? Thats 120987386937697378397863 to you...baby. <3

[Dirty C]

how's everyone doing on the battle, btw? i've started a reasonably ambitious thing combining the old concept and the new concept, and will be lucky if i can scream it through in time, but it's fairly interesting, at least. Maybe a bit too ambitious, actually :)

[sketchling]

I shall answer you tonight... cause I have not had a moment free since the last meeting. I now have that moment and a new graphics card to photoshop-trial, so Ill have ome kinda WIP or finished thing tomorrow. Im gonna try go all out on this one, but we'll see what I have time for... man. Im looking forward to it!!!

K

[Molly]

Hey fellas,

Fuckin laptop is giving me grief...
OK, sorted, heres my WIP, i have posted the second and third versions, the first is somewhere else, anyway, its supposed to be a demon of the seas and skys. Its not meant to be mean or evil, just plain ole nice and simple.
It suposed to be able to swim and fly,so...
1st attempt:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/Tekura/DEMONS2b_lores_tm.jpg
2nd attempt. Vyceroy & Donkeyslayer were online today, and gave me a few tips. This one i used reference of manta ray for the wings:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/Tekura/DEMON_3_WIP.jpg

Still lots to do with this. Any advice, crit etc - please, more than welcome!
olblue - niiice mech, would like to see some more!

Anyone else got wip?

Mollyx ;)

[Rhaucan]

Oooh I like it, it kind of grew on me the more i looked at it. Very mysterious, looks a bit melancholy. I bet a demon that wasnt evil or good wouldnt have many friends. Especially all out there alone in the ocean.

I can't wait to see everyones work, i'm going to really set some time aside and make the most of them. I wish I had done more work on mine now. I've only touched on anaotomy briefly 1 week, so wizard v warrior was a bit of a task for me.

Sorry no WIP yet.

Oh and i mentioned good things being up here in Manchester

THE most extensive show of Walter Sickert’s drawings ever to be exhibited comes to Manchester... (http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/entertainment/arts/s/125/125841_drawing_is_the_thing_for_autumn.html)

Never heard of him before but I sure know if your a fan, manchesters your place. But hey i'm young and ignorant

[sketchling]

Hey molly! I really loved the clouds in the first one... the subtle variations of hue were gorgeous. Maybe put a bit of the complimentary into the ray itself... its only 2 hues when it could be many... even a bland colour can have many hues..e and saturations in an area... that makes it more interesting. Love the idea, its a very interesting image. :D

K


Oh, and here's my wip. I still need to add the people living in amongst the coloumns of the circus museum's ruins. Iv only detailed 30% or so so far - background only.
Circus Museum Post apocaliptic Thingamajig... (http://www.sketchling.com/artwork/wip/Circus_home2.jpg)

[Dirty C]

i actually liked the second one, but that's cause it's darker and moodier, and i dig that.

off to bed now. might get an hour or two to try and rush the rest of mine through around midnight tomorrow. damn job.

[Alex Kaiser]

Ello ello ello

you guys got some good work goin!

Molly I think I like the second one also, (seems to make more sense it seems like a siluetted type pic, because of the lightrays in the back, but I would say bump up some of the highlights in the front from reflected water, also I think you should extend the composition so the creature isn't right in the middle.) but ya got a cool creature going :) (maybe add water drops as if he just jumped outta the water, he looks like he should be slimy)

You have a cool colour scheme in your picture sketchling, I really like the atmosphere you are building in it. I'm not sure what to crit in it but it's coming along great.

Thanks for the great feedback on the sketches everyone, I need to start painting them now(probably going to go with 2 top or 4 top), just spent the last hour or two working up the sketch against undertow, so if anyone has some harsh critiques hit me!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/WIP/Battlebu.jpg

Also, anyone interested in a house party? I got a free house up here (housemates home for summer) so we could get together for a day or two to draw, party, (cheap drinking here) etc, which means if you have to travel far you don't need to go home the same day, just an idea that I'll throw out there, see what you guys think.

Alrighty. Keep drawing. Watch out for the flamingos.

-Alex.

[Alex Kaiser]

Alrighty, I think this is the sketch I'm going to go with for the gothic/atmospheric with martist. Any ideas/crits?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/WIP/moonlight-twilight.jpg

Now time to have a smoke and go to bed.

-Alex.

P.S. There's a flamingo behind you.

[Dirty C]

i really dig both of them, alex. more so the first one, but i'm sure that once the clarity is uppsed a little on the second one, it'll be of the same standard. that's the only advice i'd give, btw, you need to pump up the clarity, especially close to the viewer.

[sketchling]

Yo!

Alex, those rock! The second could be made more gothic with the little spiky things cathedrals have all over the roof... get some reference and play with it maybe. I love the feel of it though. if ya want a cool way of gettin realistic glow from lights, try using a saturated, dark brush set to 'colour dodge' (its 'glow' in painter) ... it really does light glows very well. good old ryan church.

I must say though that the first one gets me from a compositional angle... it is a really powerful image. Gorgeous.

AND ( :blahblah: ) I am up for that houseparty indeed... sounds really cool. Not this weekend as germany is appenin, but plans should be made methinks!!!

[Molly]

Hey Fellas,

many thanks for the feed back. Still have lotsa bits to add and tidy up, so busy, busy, busy...

Alex - I like both ur pics. The first one more, with the perspective an all. The second ones cool too, tho as itsa WIP, I cant crit yet...keep at em, they do look super cool!
Sketchling - nice work there (as usual) I can see the color scheme ur after, I like the over all mood especially if I squint, I see more...

I had the pleasure also of viewing dirty_c's other sketch, dunno if ur gonna post it here geeza, but it blew me away, loved the angle on that one:) nice..

As far as a house party at Alex's I'm up for it. Tho Germany this weekend (woohoo!), and next weekend is my birthday(woohoo-oo!), so I'll be out of the picture there. My sister wants to throw a bbq for me at her house, but she lives in Bromley(Sth East of London) so access for folks will be difficult. I may chamge my mind, and make it more Central London. All are invited, the more the merrier, would love to meet more UK'ers out there...

Great work so far everyone! Keep it up!:)

Mollyx

[goldiloks]

Hi everyone....

I'm completely and utterly new here and feel a bit :x
I live in Brixton!

Anyone else hailing from Sarf Lundin?

[lowpolymatt]

Welcome goldiloks! Yup I'm from Sarf Lundin. Not been to meet up with the others yet due to work/time but hopefully I will at some point...

Welcome to the fold.

[Molly]

Hey goldiloks!

Welcome aboard! :) i'm in Saaaaf Lundon too, Deathf... sorry, 'Deptford' to be precise...

lowpolymatt - where abouts you from then?

Hopefully a meet next weekend folks??? (crossed with my birthday celebrations?!)

Mollyx :^^:

[Dirty C]

Welcome! I unfortunately won't be making it to the next meet, as I'm going to be lying on a beach in sardinia for two weeks!

MOOOOHAHAHAAA!!

[lowpolymatt]

Molly - I'm from Sarf wesd Lundin! Currently residing in Roehampton...

[Alex Kaiser]

Boo

Hello Goldiloks welcome to CA :)

How is everyone challange pieces going, do they have to be in my midnight today? Or just sometime during the day tomorrow?

Did a bit more work on the moonlight sketch, maybe it's getting a bit clearer now, (still need to do alot on the foreground, needs definition, and the perspective on the castle/church is err.... nearly right)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Kishlahar/WIP/moonlight-twilight2.jpg

Is your party on the weekend of the 28/29 of August Molly?

[troymcoy]

Hey all, sorry to spam the thread with this, but I have questions, again..
If I don't goto university this year i'm going to have to get a job, and I was under the impression some of you worked for small games developers in the uk, like summer pudding maybe?

Anyway, I wanted to know if 3d work i've done is good enough for any kind of lowly modeling/texturing position somewhere, and where to look.
Otherwise, can you show me an example of the kind of thing that that would be good enough? and do most places want a reel rather than examples?

Here are just a few examples, i've probably posted them before...
Head model (http://www.lindrickgolf.com/patrick/patrickheadrenbders.jpg)
Head mesh (http://www.lindrickgolf.com/patrick/patrickhead.jpg)
Troll head (http://www.lindrickgolf.com/patrick/pattroll.jpg)


I'm improving with painting too, and getting into matte stuff but I don't have much to show at the moment...

Any advice would be appreaciated, thanks.

[goldiloks]

Oooh, Roehampton... get you.

I used to live in Kingston (and go to Uni there)...

[Molly]

hay All,

@Troymcoy - those 3D heads are wicked man, seriously, I thought you were in games already...anyhoo, I think going to Uni is a good idea for getting in games, as they like ppl with lots of knowlegde(IMHO) and experience, but I think ur there already...:)

@ dirty_c - we will drink extra just for you! Enjoy Sardinia!
@ Alex Kaiser - yep - 28th Aug to be precise!

At work still, will go home add some finishing touches to my challenge pic.
I suppose midnight our time? Or theres? I dunno man, as long as it's tonight/early morning - well THEIR time man....(gives us more time to finish stuff off!!:)
Cheers

Mollyx

[pixelherder]

If I don't goto university this year i'm going to have to get a job, and I was under the impression some of you worked for small games developers in the uk, like summer pudding maybe?

Anyway, I wanted to know if 3d work i've done is good enough for any kind of lowly modeling/texturing position somewhere, and where to look.
Otherwise, can you show me an example of the kind of thing that that would be good enough? and do most places want a reel rather than examples?

Here are just a few examples, i've probably posted them before...
Head model (http://www.lindrickgolf.com/patrick/patrickheadrenbders.jpg)
Head mesh (http://www.lindrickgolf.com/patrick/patrickhead.jpg)
Troll head (http://www.lindrickgolf.com/patrick/pattroll.jpg)


I'm improving with painting too, and getting into matte stuff but I don't have much to show at the moment...

Any advice would be appreaciated, thanks.

as an artist, the only qualification that matters is your portfolio. I cant count the number of cv's i've sifted through that had "2.1 in multimedia blah blah blah" in them, yet displayed a painful lack of anything remotely like basic art principles.

I think youre doing alright already :) , but as for summer internships - i guess they're out there, but i dont see that many...erm, maybe somewhere like EA might do that sort of thing - *cue lowpolymatt*....

and a personal opinion of mine - i dont know what kind of course youre going for, but if you want to be an artist then do an art/illustration course. Multimedia/game design courses might be great, but the danger is you spread yourself too thin.

I'd be interested in anyone elses take on this too, as i'm more than open to some healthy debate on the topic!

As for showreels, i'd recommend a multi-pronged attack. As i've learnt sometimes your stuff has to get past a receptionist first - a cd in an envelope looks the same as every other so make sure to include paper printouts/photocopies to grab their attention, and guarantee its passed along to the right people. Sending a link to a website can get the ball rolling, but nothings better than having something tangible lying around that people can pick up and see for themselves. And i know TV/film people usually favour vhs showreels, but i've always used cds. Depends on the industry i guess!

I'll shut up now...

[troymcoy]

Woah thanks Molly, yeh Uni is a good idea, but I might have to go next year, so this is my backup plan for getting a job that doesn't involve packing boxes of coffee all year...

Pixelherder- The course i'm hoping to do is fineart/illustration, but because i'm going through clearing it isn't garunteed that i'll get to do it this year...
What I really want to end up doing is illustration/matte painting, but 3d modeling and that kind of thing is something I think I could perhaps get a job doing, for now..

Thanks alot, very useful ideas.

- An internship sounds interesting if it could pay enough to live, anyone want to elaborate on the idea? lowpolymatt :) ?

[Groover McNab]

This is a weird random post from an outsider but my favorite standup is performing in London http://www.bobanddavid.com/upcoming.asp
So go see him if you like the funny! And if somehow you end up not liking it then you're wrong :P

*runs out*

[acuna_read]

@Groover, think ive heard some adverts fro him on the radio and the joke they were using was terrible, very bad advertising at the very least.

@ Pixelherder/Troy, I cant tell you how many people have said dont specialise for a BA. I want(ed) to do transport design which is very competitive. So going for a Prod/Indutrial design degree makes alot of sense as it lets you apply for a broader range of work and theres still options to go into car design, or indeed study at Ma level.

That arguement was shit I basically typed what you did, but longer :yawn: , lets disagree on something for arguements sake!

So Troy, do a more general course at first, you may still change your mind as to exactly what you do during your time at Uni. As for job hunting join the que! Looks like im gonna become an accountants office junior at this rate! :blah: :bs:

Internships dont pay anything normally. If your lucky you will get travel money paid for but not likely.

[pixelherder]

@ Pixelherder/Troy, I cant tell you how many people have said dont specialise for a BA. I want(ed) to do transport design which is very competitive. So going for a Prod/Indutrial design degree makes alot of sense as it lets you apply for a broader range of work and theres still options to go into car design, or indeed study at Ma level.

i think we more or less agree - i think an "art course" will provide skills that are applicable to pretty much anything. Painting, drawing, sculpture etc. With this kind of background you can do anything from concept design, sculpting (3d modelling), pictures of your friends cat, comics, christmas cards...you name it. Whereas a computer games course is probably the most specific thing i can think of. Theres almost NO transferable skills from video games to any other career (i.e games designers/lo-poly modellers. Whereas generalists like animators and 2d-artists can move from film to tv to games) and NO_ONE of an artistic inclination ever needs to do a course in microsoft project or coding your first game in cobol!

I guess my final two words to sum up would be - craig mullins.

!

I hope some of this makes sense.

[lowpolymatt]

Craig Mullins....

Are they 'words' per se or just 'names'? ;)

Two words for you...

Pixel Herder...

What is that about anyway?

Oh and I agree more or less with what you're saying about generalising...but....If you know what you want to be, then go for the focused course...although I still dont know what I want to be...

Right now being a patio paver seems quite appealing...dont ask...

[lowpolymatt]

Goldiloks - Get you....!

Have you seen Roehampton? heh... it's not all posh you know!

and Kingston...I only go there if I need to, the place is heaving at night nowadays..ugh...

Anyways...

[Groover McNab]

Found this interesting article, and since I already cluttered your thread with a random post, I thought i'd follow it up :teeth:

Article (http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200wales/tm_objectid=14543011&method=full&siteid=50082&headline=brits-top-world-for-their-loose-sex-morals-name_page.html)

So if you have a sec, read it and confirm :P

Ok, that's it. No more for me...seriously...

[Rhaucan]

My plans for uni are hopefully classic civ or history art, preferable a combination of the two. I feel I could always go on a do an MA in illustration in something I decided this path really was right for me. But first I want to gain a bit more understanding about erm, the world in general. I aiming for these courses with my main priority being a course that will interest me most. They say enthusiasm and interest are two fundamental criterion for success.
I will be able to carry on drawing as a hobby, and i'm sure anything I learn in either of these two subjects will be give an interesting edge to a concept artist.

Ooops seems I thought this was the ucas website and I was writing my personal statement.

Any one have any thoughts on this?

[koshime]

Hey guys, been back from brussels adn had to sort out moving to a new hosue in Oakwood/Cockfosters... havent done much to my piece since the last wip. Will probably ty to microwave it and toast it a bti after work today and hope its still valid...bvy its sell by date *grin*

[goldiloks]

I was kidding about Roehampton. It's competing with Kingston in the Chav stakes (can I just link www.chavscum.co.uk, as it cracks me up - easily pleased heh). Kingston is horrid too, but I have a nostalgic attatchment to it :rolleyes: and do pop back (briefly) on the odd occaision. Though it always seems to leave me in a really bad mood! Ho hum.

[goldiloks]

Has anyone here done an illustration MA? I'm pondering it... can you tell me what it was like?

[sketchling]

What you learn in university is invaluable I think. Its not just the actual skills and techniques you learn, its the new ways of thinking you are exposed to. You are taught to jog yerself out of a lot of assumptions and habits. I found the conceptual side of thinking the hardest to learn.. things like using metaphor and subtle hints to communicate a message instead of just showing the message... But yeah... I do suggest uni.. and you will meet a hell of a lot of cool people and have a great time.... :D Oh, and you wont sleep much. its shit hard work and people tell you straight up that your work is shit when it is... so ego's dont tend to last long...

But hey, its all good! Whatever you do, and whatever skills you need for work, a degree will teach ya to think critically and conceptually in a way that will help you do interesting work WHATEVER the medium.

EDIT: Oh, and for the record I did a degree in Graphic Design/Illustration. (during which I learned very little in tewrms of skills and technical stuff...learned more from CA.org!)

[goldiloks]

I studied graphic design at uni... and have been working as a cover deisgner for 3 years... i dont want to do *another* degree, which is why i was thinking MA... oh I dont know. I'm all confused!

[acuna_read]

@Rhaucan, from the people I spoke to (professional designers mainly, some illustrators) they all agreed that a general degree gives you more opportunities at the end, and then to specialise at Ma level anyway. For some reason it seems to be (and i was told this) that A-levels are now only equivalent to GCSE's 10 years ago, Degree's are equivalent to A-levels and Ma's are equivalent to Degree's of 10 years ago. Thats from someone who worked in design and illustration for 30 years or so. I dont know whether thats thrue but it seems more and more people are studying Ma's, though could be wrong there too as im probably just more aware.

Even if you know what you want to do having a slightly different perspective may be beneficial when it comes to getting work, or indeed studying further.

@goldiloks. You've never been to Bexleyheath or Dartford have you? :teeth: Dont even bother with Lakeside/Thurrock, its gota be chav central (it is in Essex). Check out http://www.barryboys.co.uk/ for their methods of transport and more about the strange species. Especially check out the bit about "Barryette's". A nice quote from the Barryette profile, "This prime example has obviously either just landed a job juggling Radioactive waste, or Novadosed on fake tan, to make sure she gets with a barry" :uzi2:

[goldiloks]

Ok... as this is all pretty new to me, I wonder if any of you could kindly compile a list of (is the there is one) of big names in concept art? I really know nothing at all about this field :nohope:

Or books to read?

Or things to see?

Games to play?

Even if its really obvious stuff?

Thanks! :D

[troymcoy]

Hopefully I will get a place at Sheffield hallam doing the fineart/illustration course. I got my a-level results today (bbb), which don't change anything really since I have to go through clearing anyway since I changed my mind about courses during the application process...

Goldiloks, do a search for Craig Mullins, he's a big wheel in the pirate pron conceptual field.

[koshime]

gluck with UCAS troy....
hope y get into Shef hallam

here is my latest WIp for the drizzle dome - did it on the last day, havent had mroe energy to finsih it, so this is the best its going to get I reckon

http://www.medievalfx.com/concept/tblobs6.jpg

[goldiloks]

Thanks Troy!

[troymcoy]

Looks good Koshime, are the blobs the figures standing on the top of the wall?

[koshime]

yeah. they are blobbies. I did it on the 19th itself. so didnt ahve time to add mroe details, etc. started in OC as per usual for a fast render

[jetpack42]

The entries are up!

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=287534#post287534

[David York]

Thanks guys for all the fabulous fun, this competition was a blast!

goldiloks - There is something called the CA Academy (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=64) - I strongly recommend checking it out. Read the Announcement - Read This First (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=28097) post to get an idea as to what it is about.

[lowpolymatt]

I was kidding about Roehampton. It's competing with Kingston in the Chav stakes (can I just link www.chavscum.co.uk, as it cracks me up - easily pleased heh). Kingston is horrid too, but I have a nostalgic attatchment to it :rolleyes: and do pop back (briefly) on the odd occaision. Though it always seems to leave me in a really bad mood! Ho hum.

Dont worry about it Goldiloks! I know exactly what you mean. Kingston is just a pit now...I cant stand it most of the time.

As for Roehampton, well...its ok...I live on the doorstep of Richmond park so I quite like it. Its a pretty neat view in the morning looking out over the park.....

[lowpolymatt]

yeah. they are blobbies. I did it on the 19th itself. so didnt ahve time to add mroe details, etc. started in OC as per usual for a fast render

It's fantastic mate, really like your style! Blobbies or no blobbies, they worked for me.

[pixelherder]

It's fantastic mate, really like your style! Blobbies or no blobbies, they worked for me.

yeah, what you said - well done you, and everyone else. You all rocked my face off with your hardcore, and somewhat "mad" "skillz"

Would have joined in if i hadnt been a) completely lacking in any motivation b) hooked on Doom 3 :bow::jawdrop::cheerleader:, and Onimusha 3 <3<3<3.

Lousy, yet addictive, time-sucking interactive entertainment!

*edit* and goddamit, yes, i'm also a coward!

[troymcoy]

hey, does doom3 get any better/less repetetive? I got it since I haven't bought any games in ages and I quite like it, but it does seem like its sticking to the formula of walk through corridor - monster growls and jumps out of hidden wall section behind you and scares you - kill monster, and repeat the process with a more baddass monster each time...
Nice game though, its pretty scary... but so far is very linear.

bouyakasha

[koshime]

Onimusha 3 is out......quick, time to grab a few ccards and head down to the local GAME store.

Hmm, as for doom3, it has som esort of storyline with repetetive shoot teh monster story. but I like it. Reminds me of Ghosts of Mars....evil sucking vampires/zombie flick whereas this is Event horizon on mars.....hehehe

[Dirty C]

Where's Alex's entry? It was looking really great the other day.

I'm off to Sardinia for two weeks at 5am tomorrow, which should be bliss. I expect to return with a full sketchbook and possibly a new job :)

Molly, can you do me a favour and text me when the judges' results come in? And if you see this in Berlin, remember that as all the judges are American, it's your duty to bribe Android into switching sides :D

[lowpolymatt]

*honk*