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[koshime]

whats the dead list then? :)

[lefran]

think it started on the last page or something. those who have not posted for ages, stated their not dead to let people know ....theyre not dead ^___^

[Quicksilver]

Yah, being Trev, Eri, Molly and James. :) Where've you guys been anyhoo?

[goes back to painting]

[MoP]

They've been dead, obviously. Now they've brushed the dirt off and clambered from their coffins...

[sleep]

huhh. i am officially not dead. or is that un-dead? hmm!

i have been away for four months due to gcses. not a good way of spending my time, i know, because i probably failed anyway, but at least i got a btec first in graphic design{equivalent to four c's, apparently}.

so. if there's a london meet i shall be there, for i have nothing to do this holiday except drawdrawdraw.

[lefran]

ive only had 3 driving lessons and i drove my step dad to newport and back today!!! Wheeeeee xx

tomorrow im of to CADBURY WORLD i hope your all jealous! i get loaaaaads of chocolate wheeeeeeee xxx (school trip with my mams school im helping ...i say helping i mean busy getting fat)
teehee

anywho...any more news on the london meet?

[asoir]

london meet?
[/dead]

[Dirty C]

apologies, i'm currently in the throes of possibly being homeless, so everything's on hold and i'm even unlikely to finish my sodding thunderdome. in terms of that date though (29th and 30th) then we're probably still cool for that if people are up for it.

kinda stressed - send me love through the ether please :(

[Eriboss]

loveee



hehe

[MoP]

I feel for you dirty_c, best of luck sorting that situation out.

[Quicksilver]

Ouch, hope everything works out, Chris.

Wub xx

[sketchling]

yeah, love dude. love :D And a floor/matress if ya need it for a few days, though ill kinda have to clear some space on the floor first.....hardly luxury.

Good luck!

[DavidCousens]

Good luck sorting it Chris! All the best :)

[Kian]

Shit DC. Hope you get everything sorted. Much Love

[Molly]

Yah, being Trev, Eri, Molly and James. :) Where've you guys been anyhoo?

[goes back to painting]

This thread mooves too quickly, and sometimes with pointless banter, it has certainly stopped me from posting cos I cant keep up with the conversations.
I'll post when I really need to, (like my upcoming birthday party,but I doubt I'll get any takers from here...nevermind) There really isnt much for me to say; Im still painting, drawing, but all of thats at school, and I still havent got me an internet connection, so I cant post what I've done in the last few months; I got some anatomy studies, but there prolly quite boring; I've started my CA.org Calender TD, but I STILL need to post, and well, what I've done is cool, just wanna keep it under wraps till I absolutely neeed to show....but is ANYONE reading this? No, of course not...

Got nuthin else to say, blah blah blah museum, blah blah blah, gallery, blah blah blah part-time studies, blah blah blah meet up? blah blah blah drinks, blah blah blah blaaaaaah!

Moo x

[Kian]

Hi molly. Bout that bebo test. I wish, i knew you that well ;)

[Molly]

Hi molly. Bout that bebo test. I wish, i knew you that well ;)


aaah - nevermind dude...;)

If anyones bothered, my birthday celebrations are not going ahead.

Ta
Mx

[Dirty C]

Why?? I swear, the second I have a roof under which to sleep, you're coming over for a chat, girly.

This is what happens when you go too long without workshops..

[Molly]

Why?? I swear, the second I have a roof under which to sleep, you're coming over for a chat, girly.

This is what happens when you go too long without workshops..

Why? well, it seems only a handful of my mates are gonna make the effort an come, and well, I dont think many other people are gonna wanna find a demon/monster costume, or they'll leave it till too late, and dont bother coming at all, so, to hell with it..doya think its because us British folk are far too conservative? Boring? Lack creativity?(<-lack creativity? Surely not...) :upset:

As far as a chat goes dude, cool whenever...:)

As far as workshops go, I wont be able to make it, due to money problems; I must concentrate on myself, and get clients and jobs etc before term starts in September, which I'm having trouble paying for already,and I gotta work hard before I can even consider a trip away. (tho, it would be nice to go, but wotever :shrug: ...)

As you can tell, Im extremely pissed off and I've let out a brain fart on all of you...:xpld:

Moody Molly - >:{

[Quicksilver]

Aww no, sorry to hear all that, Mollz. :( I know what you mean with the fancy dress thing. I'm cool with it, but can't afford to go to London much (probably won't go to the Anime Expo this Oct). Luckily, my mates are just as loyal and loony as me so my lasy birthday back was awesome! Altogether we had a hippy, pirate, vampire, army bloke, Willy Wonka, an angel, a terrorist (:nohope:), butterfly and a warrior. The others didn't dress up, buu.

Some vids (hopefully they don't mind me posting!)
Knights of the, er... (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Cherry_Blossom/?action=view&current=58.flv)

Wheelbarrow race (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Cherry_Blossom/?action=view&current=60.flv) <----that's me jumping out of the way/almost falling over. Took the wings off 'cause the wind was making it too much of a challenge to stand up straight/for long, haha.

3-legged race (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Cherry_Blossom/?action=view&current=64.flv)

We also had a picnic and played Twister. Before all that we went to Tescos to get some cake. Twas funny trying to go through the queue sideways with my uber big butterfly wings (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Cherry_Blossom/wings_perspective.jpg), lol.

This year I plan on going to a rough'n tumble (room with platforms and a pool of plastic balls) with us all in formal wear (ball/prom dresses/suits). :) Just need to find a place big enough.....


Aaaahh good memories. ^_^ Okay, point: Tekura, even if there're only a few of you willing ot dress up, go anyway - it'll be a great laugh with your more closer/wilder friends. :) And maybe it'll cool you down from all the pissey things goin' on. Either way, it'll make a memory for you and your mates, which is always cool.

[DannySketch]

ah molly, i would so be there as a giant blob of orange goo if it wasent for the fact that only in the last post did i actually find out ur names Tekura, and therefore showing up at ur party kinda puts me in the 'creepy' catogorie!

as for fancy dress partys, my best mates having 1 2moz for his 18th and i have NOTHING to wear!!!im panicing so much!i cant afford to buy anything, im considering at this stage going wrapped up in tinfoil as sum sort of metalic worm, but who knows!PANIC!

peace

[lefran]

sorry about your party, buti agree with everyone molly! go out with your closest friends and get drunk!

[james]

ooh quicksilver, in terms of massive play rooms with ball pools and suchlike, my sister took a whole mass of her friends and some family to this place in devon called milky way (i think) for her 21st. its awesome, has a massive rough'n'tumble room as you put it with a sort of assault-course-for-kids-wrapped-in-foam theme going on. also things like archery and various different fun things including a ferret show. but the best part was the big room of kiddy rough'n'tumbleness. [edit] i just remembered, once you've paid to get in, the dodgems are free. i think that overrules the rough'n'tumble bit as the best.
the website (http://www.themilkyway.co.uk/) makes it out to be more space orientated and modern than it is but its still fooking awesome. potentially a bit of distance to get there though.

and im really sorry to hear about the party molly. hope everything is resolved before next year.

J

[Quicksilver]

James: Woohoo! Cool stuff; shame it's so far away though. Hmm, dunno how to go about this really.

So is there going to be a London meet on the 29th-30th? 'Cause if it's defo going on then I'll have to book time off work.

Are people still interested in a Cardiff meet? Could do it in August.

Mew~

[sleep]

yes. people. let us call a london meet on the 29/30th. i'll be there.

[DannySketch]

shall be there also, hybridstar you still thinking of going mate?i owe u a beer dude, and eri,badger,dc,kim,lefran and naomi....hell i just wanna spend longer with ur sketchbooks!:bashful:

also kian u thinking of coming?be good to finally meet ya man.

[DavidCousens]

Hey Molly, sorry to hear things have fallen through for you. :( I know what you mean about it being hard to keep up with this thread too!

[cartoonfox]

Me and adam will be down for a meet whenever.
Christian just let me know on AIM, I never pay enough attention to this thread anymore.
As for moving, I'm also looking for a new place to live now. Still not in central London, I'm looking for somewhere within walking distance of my uni.
Viewed one place today and it sucked! : [
Gota keep looking...

See you crazy cats soon


Peace

[[void]]

Yeah I'm up for a meet on the 29th, 30th. Is it gonna be a two day thing or are these just dates that might happen?

btw sorry about the party molly, I would have quite liked to have been the thing that came from the black lagoon. Oh and that quiz, damn you and your deceptive life choices, I'm quite happy that i remembered your middle name though! ^_^

Cai why'd the place suck dude? Too small or smelly? Octopus infestation?

[Hybridstar]

Hope to be able to make the meet. In the process of moving and building a new studio so things are a little flaky at the mo. Gonna be in a position to save a ton of money though which is muchos joy.

[yAdam]

I will be coming also, probably only one of the days though... Whats the deal with the exhibitions/galleries? We need to pre book tickets?

[lefran]

right, im gonna have to go into work tomorrow and see what i can do. i doubt he'll let me have a day off. if not ill see if i can get cover. if not. ill quit

[[void]]

Damn right fran! STICK IT TO THE MAN!

Sorry i couldnt resist.

[Quicksilver]

Wow, go Fran. Yeah, there's bound to be more jobs goin' round for better pay. If not, then more drawing time for you, hehe. There's still the EMA too (got your bonus yet?)

[lefran]

i think i might be in line for a job in the ballroom right by me, well its called the ballroom but its really a theatre, so id be on front of house which is basically just collecting tickets and you get to watch shows for free, how awesome, plus its just evenings which i would like, i hate giving up weekends, because im busy enough as it is. so yeah. im gonna go in tomorow morning and see what i can do.

[Dirty C]

ok, someone said they had something on on the 29th, so how about the 30th? ie: the sunday? might be easier for a lot of people.

[Quicksilver]

Sunday would be easier as I wouldn't have to give up a day of work. So would it be a one-day thing or will people be free on the following Monday?

[[void]]

I was more up for saturday and sunday, I've got work monday. I could try and take the day off I guess but i need the moolah.

[lefran]

yes! sunday is more do-able. i didnt make it into work today i didnt get up in time as i had somewhere to be by 12 today. soooo ill see if i can get up in time tomorrow hehe. ill pop into work and see what i can do for the sunday, maybe my cousin will cover my shift. yeah atm i dont have much money, im waiting for different payments to be made to me, im still waiting for a nice sum to be repayed to me since april - my tax but anyways

[Quicksilver]

CA London Meet Sunday 30th July '06 (poss. 31st if people are still free)

Time: 10am-12pm as usual?
Location: Starbucks at Leicester Square (on top of the hill next to Empire)

Suggested Exhibitions:
- John Constable: Great Landscapes - Tate Britain (http://www.tate.org.uk/britain/exhibitions/constable/rooms/default.shtm)
- Kandinsky - Tate Modern
- Rebels & Martyrs - National Gallery (http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/exhibitions/rebels_martyrs/default.htm)

People going:
lefran
Quicksilver
dirty_c
yAdam
Asgardian
cartoonfox
DannySketch
tie
WARHEAD
sketchling
MoP
blog
Asoir

Poss. going
Molly
Kian
Hybridstar
Koshime
Noë (+bf)
Saimon
I'll update this lil messege when more info's given. Just trying to make things easier to find for the peeps who don't visit as often. :)
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If anyone's stuck on transport/cash, here's a link to a travel company called megabus:

http://www.megabus.com/uk/

Fran and I managed to get tickets from Cardiff to London and back for £12. :)

[[void]]

Yep im there.

[Noë]

Hello hello ^^
I'm Marleen, 16 years of age and live in the Netherlands,

It just happens to be so that I'll be staying in Gorseinon, near Swansea, near Cardiff from the 28th this month until like the 3rd of august....
Soooooo... Maybe I can go with Quicksilver and Lefran to the meeting in London? And maybe I can bring my boyfriend too because he doesn't like me going somewhere all by myself meeting people I never met before?

This idea just popped into Tie and my head when he told me there would be a london meet the 30th of july...

I didn't talk this over with my boyfriend yet, so it's not really sure.
But anyways, since Quicksilver and LeFran live close to Cardiff (right?) I would like to meet up with you two anyway. And if you could just get Seanie/ Tie to go with you back from the London meet it would be nice too lol.

So, nothing's sure, but I'm so excited :P! ^^

love
Marleen

[WARHEAD]

I'M IN :ninja:

[Quicksilver]

Marleen: That would be perfect!! Fran and I have to stop by Cardiff to catch the Megabus (http://www.megabus.com/uk/) to London. :)
......K, got your MSN now so we can chat there, heh.

Btw if anyone here wants to add me, my addy is: silverraindrop (at) hotmail.com

Sunil: I'll add ya to the list. :)

[lefran]

my boss is on holidays and only the assistant manager was there, but hes so thick he didnt have a clue whther i could have the time off. so basically.... im coming to london whether they like it or not. i have given them enough time and its rediculous if i cant have the time off considering i have given a few weeks notice. if they do not give me the time off i will quit as ive already said.

So i will be there!!!

[MoP]

Naomi: Add me to the "Possibly going" list - I may be moving house that weekend, but if not, it's just a 30 minute train ride away...

[sketchling]

cool. :) Lookin forward to it :D

BTW I found an AWSOME expression reference... have a look here: http://www.artnatomia.net/uk/index.html

Be sure to go to the 'stage two' section, cause thats where the mojo lies.

[Bendragon]

Hi guys, my friend Hazamataz has been nagging me to post in here for a while now :P. Anyhow, we're up for a meet too, any time and date will do for me I'll be there at all cost!!!!!!

[Quicksilver]

Heya, guys, I've just updated my previous post with the meet details dicussed so far to make things easier. Let me know where you want to meet up or if there are more peeps to join us so I can update it accordingly. :)

Gotta dash - got work in 15 mins!!

~~Naomi x

[Hazamataz]

Thanks all things mega for megabus, £1 to london is just too good.

Cheers for that link, i'm sure that'll be handy at some point, although i'm not too sure about that "determination" face, "scorn" is pretty funny though.

[Badger]

Sketchling, cheers man, awesome reference.

Right then, Oxfordinio meet soon, by which i mean i'll get some people together probably at my house soon, and have incremental meets down the pub, i recently got back in contact with Porgy and Pupil, with James and yAdam just down the road i'm thinking we could get a fortnightly thing together, but i need to know when you guys have free evenings. I can rally further graphite addicts who just lurk here and there, but i know they love to draw :)

-B-

[james]

badge you are a hard man to organise a meet with. nice entry for the LMS2 btw. i have most days free but am going to france for two weeks on saturday so you can organise with that in mind.

also, i would like you to edit your last post so the S in my name is as bold as the rest of the letters. that is blatent favouritism.

James

[frumpy_bunyin]

Are you guys headding out to do some scribbling, or for a general catch up?
A friend of mine recently pointed me towards CA recently. I'm looing for a decent sketch club and anatomy classes in London if anyone knows of any.

Thanks,
-FB

[DannySketch]

sketchling, thanks alot, awesome resource.

[Crush]

Hey guys, I'm new here, I hardly post, and I've not put any art up yet, but I'm from manchester so I figured I'de post here :)

Currently 17, taking graphics in year 13 (come september anyway), and will hopefully be going to manchester met for a foundation course

so yeah.... hi :D

[WARHEAD]

Afternoon chaps and chapesses....

........just come back from the Constable exhibiton at the Tate Britain, some really cool stuff there so it is worth going to ! The six foot exhibition pieces are great because they have Constable's six foot 'sketches' :$ next to the originals. So you can compare the compositions when he made the sketches into final Academy pieces.

There are a few smaller pieces and sketches as well, but some paintings weren't there that would have been great pieces in this exhibition, but most of those are in American collections.......

[yAdam]

hello crush and frumpy_bunyin.

Oxford meet would be great! Can't make it in the next 2 weeks though..I'm working with my dad until I can find a proper job, and I got to get up at 6:45 every day :dur: I would have free evenings, but i'm so knackered when I get back I can just about sit at my comp and paint, though I would come if i'm not too tired..Going to a friends wedding on saturday/sunday, and the next week its the meet in london. I'm free all week starting the 29th, but I wont have a car ...so it would have to be the bus.. :[ hmm, that reminds me, I got to work out how to get back from the station after london............................

[Bendragon]

Ach! Think me and Hazamataz have to drop out of the London meet, got something else to go too :(

[MoP]

Looks like I should be able to make it, not moving till the 1st of August...

[Quicksilver]

Too bad, Ben and Harry :(

Paul: Oooo close call.

Righto, I've edited the list. Info on the upcoming meet can be found in my sig. :) Think I'll be attending the Rebels & Martrs exhib. as it looks interesting and it's only £4 for me, mweheh. Can't say I know anything of the contextual side of them though.

Have fun :painting: Also, welcome to the beginning of the end madness, crush and frumpy!

~~Naomi

[sleep]

yo. attention

right, right. since organization seems to be our weak point, and poor quicksilver seems to be doing all the arranging {thank you, darling}, i decided to see if i could cook up a site or something where updates on the UK front can regularly be posted, including all the meet arrangements, and so forth.

after talking to quicksilver on msn, the possibility of using an automated blogging engine such as mambo soon sounded like a good idea. but implementation would be tedious, and we wouldn't exactly know where to host it. so i just decided to make a LiveJournal (http://www.livejournal.com) community for ca, seeing as i already have an lj account.

ca uk livejournal community (http://community.livejournal.com/ca_uk/)

i'll try to keep it updated as often as possible when new information regarding meets and things comes about. the journal is open for anonymous commenting, and anyone can join if they already have an lj account. if you want to know the password to the journal, just ask me or quicksilver on msn {i'll give it to anyone who's been to a uk meet before}

i realise this is the millionth attempt at organizing this stuff, but it won't hurt to try again. the 3.0 group forum is dead, and, well, this is just in the alpha stage, but if it works, maybe we can keep it? tell me what you think.

[Midnight]

Vehemently not dead!

[Hybridstar]

would love to make the meet but in the process of moving. That and 3 stag do's in the space of a few weeks. nightmare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! an oxford meet at some point would be great, lovely city.:teeth:

[MoP]

Not a bad idea, tie. Now we have a separate site to be undecided on!

How exactly do you want to decide the location? Is it possible to post a poll on LiveJournal and have people vote on it, or is it better to do that here in this thread?

[sleep]

Not a bad idea, tie. Now we have a separate site to be undecided on!

How exactly do you want to decide the location? Is it possible to post a poll on LiveJournal and have people vote on it, or is it better to do that here in this thread?

livejournal is simplistic in its features, thus grand ideas like polls aren't really on. i don't suppose a poll would be practical anyway, because internet polls can easily be rigged if you really want to, by clearing your cookies or whatever. talking it out in this thread would probably be better.

i have to say, constable's exhibition looks rather good from the stuff on the site.. i reckon it gets my vote

[Hybridstar]

lets get christain's city project up and running again!. great idea, lets represent the uk massive.:teeth:

[Hazamataz]

My vote goes to a dictatorship, would be easier for organisation, once you've posted, thats it you gotta attend. There'd be no last minute pulling out from people like me :(.

hmmm, the city project IS tempting.

[Quicksilver]

ca uk livejournal community (http://community.livejournal.com/ca_uk/)
Awesome job, Sean! :D [hugs]

Oooh I thought the Constable one was about £17, but it's not (£10), so I can go to both exhibitions. I think it would be easier to decide on an exhib. most people want to go to and meet up outside there.

One question, will it end up being like the last two food-wise? i.e. Starbucks > Pizza Hut > Nandos. Understandably we need larger areas/name places to munch 'cause there're so many of us going in one go, but surely there are other places?

[sketchling]

nope. nandos is the way forward. Though perhaps the one on the south bank near tate modern is easiest. I have a free full chicken and chips i have been saving up for the next meet (all the koshime and me meets add up on a loyalty card!) so I can feed some people. It really is about as cheap as good sit-down food gets in central london.

[sleep]

advantages of nandos
· cheap food
· tasty food
· sketchling has loyalty points
· cheating the system to get free drinks is too easy

disadvantages:
· we've done it a million times before.

i actually think one or two of the regular meet-goers should also get loyalty cards, so that whenever one of us is going to buy something at nandos, we get a loyalty point, and are one step closer to free food for a few people the next time we have a meet. we could fill up half a card or more, given the amount of people that eats at just one meet

[blog]

that site is awesome! I'm doubtful of being able to come though, Ima get back to you guys on that one :/

[sketchling]

i actually think one or two of the regular meet-goers should also get loyalty cards, so that whenever one of us is going to buy something at nandos, we get a loyalty point, and are one step closer to free food for a few people the next time we have a meet. we could fill up half a card or more, given the amount of people that eats at just one meet

Yeah...except the points are one per visit.. :P

I guess my biggest argument in favour of nandos is that once you have paid...they dont care. You have no bill to squabble over and the environment is far better than average for fast food. An added bonus is that most of ther stuff is wheat free and thats good for me :D But hey, I am but one individual. Anyone got a better idea, suggest away :) im game.

Besides, we are there to sketch, not wonder around tryin to find a place to eat. :P Done that too many times. Like hearding cats I tell you.

[koshime]

1/ Democracy is a no no....for groups mroe that 3, autocracy or dictatorship is the only way forward, for chaos often is teh result of herding a bunch of un-like opinioned people with differing ecclelastic tastse/desires/skills via the general consensus route 8grin*

2/ Nandos works!

3/ U free sometime the week after next kim? (pity you're not coming to the belgiuan meet. great life models on hire by wouter...she does stand rock steady for 40 mins each pose...)

[Dirty C]

You're forgetting the waitresses' beautiful eyes :)

First, Naomi, I'd say you can take the Rebels & Martyrs off the list. I saw it last week and other thanprobably three paintings, it's kinda crap. The first painting is by far the best, and worth seeing, but not worth the whole visit. I'm still keen for Kandinsky, but don't imagine many of ther est of you are. Kim, did you and Molly go in the end?

In terms of the LiveJournal site, my personal feeling is that 3.0 is easy enough to update that one thread with one comment per visit, which Naomi could be doing now. It keeps everything centralised and anyone who already has an account here doesn't need to do any more. Seriously no offence to Tie, who I'm sure has put some work in, but external linkage never really seems to work. If it does work, then goodo, but I've just seen it before..

Came back from the Glade festival with a few fairly psychedelic pages in my sketchbook. Haven't got my scanner just now (it's in storage) but as soon as I get it out, I'll scan about 20 page in. Must say, I'm not terribly pleased with what happened with my last man standing entry - the way Cody's put it beside somebody else's screws the colours up something fierce.

City project you say :) I must admit, I still have a soft spot for that old beast in my heart. Gotta say, I was pretty proud of myself for the whole Atlantean idea with the coral waterfall yada yada. Mighta made a good game, yknow? The thing it lacked was drive, though. And I guess I needed to be a bit fiercer as an art dierctor, given that I've got a background in Anthropology and could have provided more input into the artefacts I was after etc.

Hm. Ok, off home.

[cartoonfox]

Nando's!! WOO : ]

(I'm happy 'cos I've found myself a flat and got a job interview!)

[sketchling]

Koshime : Um.. What Belgium meet?
DC : I couldnt get hold of Molly :( But I went with Kweba and stu. I was not particularly impressed with kandinsky... some pics were gorgeous, but it was very abstract and experimental...which worked at the time as a revolution, but as plain just-to-look-at images... I got bored after a while.

Wish the gorillaz exhibition was still up or i would suggest that.
:)
K

[Quicksilver]

I don't really mind Nandos - it has a nice atmosphere there and the food's cheap; just wondering if anyone was interested in doing anything different.

I still like Sean's take on the lj site. I'll post up the details on 3.0 as well but mleh, you know what it's like. It's been running a lot quicker lately, mind.

Aaaahhh I went tayberry/blackberry picking today with my mum and sisters and now I'm gonna make a t/b-berry crumble :D

Edit: Congrats, Cai!!
Kim: Yeah, I wanted to see that one too :(

So it looks like we'll be seeing the Constable exhibition? Cool cool.

[DannySketch]

ive actually *braces for gasps of shocked horror* never been to a nandos in my life,yes yes i know, 18 years of age and still a nandos virgin, so meh tis fine by moi!

and congrats to cartoon fox

ALSO well done to all the LMS guys SERIOUSLY good work by all u represented well.

[koshime]

every year, we have a mini brussels live drawing/beer/bbq weekend at hyver's

A good bunch of people met in Euro workshop attend annually.

http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=67184

[MoP]

Constable and Nando's sounds good to me. Although not at the same time.

[lefran]

i liked nandos, i dont really care where we meet up, i know nothing about any of the artists mentioned, apart from kandinsky and only a little bit at that, so i dont mind if i go in or not, i do need to be saving for other things, so i might sit outside and draw instead of going in, i dont mind. but yeah nandos wooo! you gotta love the chicken :)

[sleep]

You're forgetting the waitresses' beautiful eyes :)

haha wow. it's not only me that thinks so? they really must be something, then!

[WARHEAD]

OOOOHHHHHH - I forgot my 'meet disclaimer'.....

IT'S NOT MY TURN TO TAKE ANYONE TO HOSPITAL........



:eyeloss: :P

[sketchling]

hahaha. Shame dude. I did offer.

[sketchling]

check this out!

http://ex.cgchannel.com/product_info.php?products_id=165
The video for it is actually a wicked anatomical ref for the body! awsome.

[blog]

yeah but ya have to pay for it sketchling....haha. Anyway, I think I might actually be able to make it this time, I mean I'm not doing anything I don't think and my dad agreed to giving me a lift, so yeah, could ya put me on the maybe list tie? And Nandos sounds good to me, not like I really have much of a say ;), Oh and what time do you think the meet will be startin around and ending guys?

oh yeah and nice LMS entry Dirty C! it was one of my favourites :!:

[sketchling]

yeah...but the little demo video is free. and THATS what I was sayin was cool

[Kian]

Yeah but I think thats pretty worth it! Dont forget it equates to approx £25 quid. I think thats very reasonable, and im quite tempted. Cheers Kim

[sketchling]

what I want to know is if it is rigged for animation and posing... cause that would be unbelievable!! :D I doubt it though.

[Kian]

yeah doesnt look like it Kim. I'm sure they'd have made a massive point about that in the movie. But could you imagine if it could!!

[sleep]

dc: yeah, i know what you mean about it having been done before, and i've already addressed this. i just don't check 3.0 at all, and naomi told me that the forums there are virtually dead {though it's also been said about it coming back to life} if noone

blog: done.

yeah, i think its... time to start deciding the time, haha. the uk meets {judging from the last two i went to} start around 10ish in the morning, we go to a coffee house like starbucks and chill.. then go on to a museum.. then various other things, and we end in the night.. dunno, round 10, 11, 12? can't remember.

urgh, so, constable exhib. 10-ish. then we make up the rest as we go along, as usual, and end with a nandos.

[Quicksilver]

Mmm, we usually meet up at a cafe around 10-12. This is just judging from the last two London meets I attended, mind :P Theeeen we hang out, sketch, see an exhibition, eat lunch, sketch/chill, eat dinner, sketch/chill.....socialize overall, until about 11:30pm where we all dash off to the tube/train station before they stop running, lol.

Will anyone be free on the following Monday?

[MoP]

Got work then, I'm afraid, Naomi.

Hope it's not going to be as bloody hot as it was today!

[koshime]

it was 36 today .tuybe meltdown :(

[yAdam]

Oh man!!! I've travelled on the tube when it's been hot, but not like this... Must be unbearable...

[Dirty C]

Ok, the tate britain isn't the greatest meeting place really. especially if most people will be waiting for an hour or two (people tend to drift in between ten and twelve). How do people feel about meeting somewhere in the city first, and then making the timing for tate at 1pm? The tate britain's near pimlico station, btw.

When I say town, I'd be thinking of somewhere like the starbucks at leicester square.

[Quicksilver]

Ok, the tate britain isn't the greatest meeting place really. especially if most people will be waiting for an hour or two (people tend to drift in between ten and twelve). How do people feel about meeting somewhere in the city first, and then making the timing for tate at 1pm? The tate britain's near pimlico station, btw.

When I say town, I'd be thinking of somewhere like the starbucks at leicester square.
That sounds good. There aren't a gazillion Starbucks about in Leicester Square, is there? 'Cause it would b tricky finding the right one then, hehe. :P

[frumpy_bunyin]

That model's been kicking about for a while, it looks like something that was being flogged a few years back, or at very least the texture does. I'd be very surprised if it was rigged, and it would not be terribly usable if it was.

Don't hink I'll make the gathering, I'm still looking about for a decent sketch club and anatomy class in London, a-la Ashton's in Sydney if anyone has recommendations I'd like to hear them.

Thanks,

-FB

[MoP]

Starbucks at Leicester Square sounds good to me!

[Dirty C]

Don't hink I'll make the gathering, I'm still looking about for a decent sketch club and anatomy class in London, a-la Ashton's in Sydney if anyone has recommendations I'd like to hear them.

You're from Sydney? I went to Ashton's a few times, and told Form about it when I met him in Amsterdam. Then I spent two years convincing Rod to go :)

I don't think there's anywhere as good as that here, but there are a few decent sketch clubs. The one in Angel that I sometimes go to, Imery goes to every week, and Sketchling has been to a few times, is in Angel. It's £6 a throw and they have cheap paper and charcoal there. It's Mondays and Tuesdays, and as it doesn't require any commitment beyond paying for one night, is a great way to start if you're looking for something more formal. It's run by Candid Arts, who you can google, I'm sure :)

Naomi: No, there's just the one main one at the top of the square. The square's on a hill, so you'll see what I mean about the top :)

[koshime]

how can u miss starbucks next to Empire....there can only be ONE

[blog]

If I do come btw guys, which is likely, I might have to leave early unfortunately, cuz I live in Leeds and I'm not going back on train. So yeah

[asoir]

i'll go.... bookmarked that LJ site so keep it update! :)

[frumpy_bunyin]

Thanks dirty_c I assume this is the place http://www.candidarts.com/sections/whatson/life_drawing_drop_in_class.htm
I'm not from Sydney, but I lived there for 3 years. And took 5 semesters at Ashtons (3 anatomy for the artist and 2 life drawing for beginners), well night of classes, unfortunatly work can intrude upon full time art pursute. I loved it, felt it was more beneficial to me and my skills than any other classes I'd taken, it was the right mix of directed observation and mostly drawing time. All under Briggsy, who I can not say enough good things about, so I won't even bother.
Thanks for the pointer, all the classes people I know here have taken have had a mix of responses and nothing has stood out as something I was after. The sketch club type of thing sould be just the ticket.

-FB

[MoP]

I'm currently attempting to entice Arcipello (http://www.artofconway.com/index.php?page=gallery) to join us for the meet-up, he seems interested... it's just a matter of getting him to wake up in time for the train :)

[Kian]

Im sorry guys, but I can't make it. I'd really love to, but the amount of actual time I'd be there, would be half 1 to 6 in the evening. Whenever theres another one I'll book a room at a travel lodge or sumat, and do a full jobby.

[Hybridstar]

I'm with Kian on this one ufortunately. Moving house that weekend and having to erect a huge timber studio in the garden. Will go outta my way to make the next one though. Would love to see pics and sketch book stuff.

cheers

sean

[asoir]

Anything concrete yet? I see alot of fooling around with the starbucks idea but i'd like to be sure where i'm going...thanks!

[DannySketch]

if its on ole quicksilvers siggy link thingy im taking it as concrete,

so starbucks it is, at anytime from 10 to 12.

[sleep]

Anything concrete yet? I see alot of fooling around with the starbucks idea but i'd like to be sure where i'm going...thanks!

it doesn't go in the lj community link if it's not concrete {unless its marked as 'suggestions'

so, yes, as far as we know it's starbucks

[asoir]

As far as we know?!
*cries*

[MoP]

Not "as far as we know". That's where it will be.

[sleep]

YES IT'S BLOODY STARBUCKS

grr!

[Dirty C]

Asoir, it's starbucks :)

[Hybridstar]

Hey all

Not sure if anyone is interested but a friend of mine is running a summer school in figurative drawing and sight size down here in Salisbury. He's a good painter and an even better instructor. I'll be along for 2-3 days a week drawing for nowt(we have a reciprocal arrangement of offering the chance to draw at each others classes free of charge:) )

heres the link for the classes:
http://www.sarumstudio.com/summerschool.html

and you can view some of his work here:
http://www.commissionaportrait.com/artistsportfolio.asp?id=184

The classes are not really suitable for beginners, you really need to have some experience with drawing from life. I'm not a fan of sightsize myself but it's a good system that many portrait painters use to ensure a sucessful representation of the subject. Worth a look.

Only realised after the fact that on his last course he had a coupla guys from the CA posse!. They turned out some great work.

[Molly]

Hey folks...I think I can make this next meet...
Did any of you Oxford folks go to Art In Action? If so I, was in the bloody sculpture tent:( Righto - off to paint my Calender piece for the girls TD...

Mx

[sketchling]

I here the sounds of cats on the range... them cat herders must be out there ringin em in.

YAY! :) Go molly. Ya do realise d come fetch ya if ya were not comin? Oh, and yer welcome to share in the free chicken im gettin thanks to my loyalty card :D hehe. frequnt fryer miles or something.

[cartoonfox]

Not sure if I can make it now : [
I have no money. Like, nothing.

The job interview went great but I couldn't accept the job 'cos they needed someone who could work full time for at least 3 months.

I'll see if I can find some cash under my bed or something...

[blog]

someone could always pick you up :?:

[Dirty C]

Hybrid, your mate's a pretty good painter! Pity he's just doing a drawing course :/

Cai, check your PMs.

[cartoonfox]

Ok, thanks to Christian, I will be able to make it after all : ]

[Hybridstar]

Christian,

Drawing and painting mate, all dependant on ability. I'll be painting myself as will a coupla of other pro portrait and figurative painters. Well they better show, that or some of you guys should pop down:yayca: . Nick trained with Scott Pohlschmidt of lavender hill studios in london. Not too sure about classical training myself, hell the best training is just drawing from life, daily.

[koshime]

sounds like lovely stuff. cant make the meet this weekend .am working :(

[Quicksilver]

Mew, shame you guys can't make it :( Maybe next time, ne?

Been binge-watching animes and a JDrama called "Densha Otoko" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Densha_Otoko) lately (great drama!!) shoooo if I make weird Japanese-related sounds/typings, that'll be why. :3

Ja ne~ x

[asoir]

yay, i'm going with all the cool kids!
*lame*

[MoP]

Ja ne~ x

Changed your name to Jane? ;)

[Dirty C]

boring in here. unsubscribe.



(ok maybe not. someone say something interesting.)

[Hybridstar]

The hybrid flux calculations of the implicit a-posteriori finite element method to compute lower and upper bounds to output of a partial differential equation or set of equations are improved.

Hows that DC!?;)

How about a procedure or working method topic. Give each other an insight into working porcesses, daily working routines, where we find inspiration, how we approach projects, our approach to drawing characters, enviro's ,what we are all working on currently etc.

For real interest came back home yesterday to discover that our gardener had assaulted our landlord. He first pushed him over and then in his words " he looked like a fat, bloated cow lolling around on the floor and i thought, oh i have to hit the bastard!!!!" Our soon to be ex landlord is incredibly rich by the way, think the gardener had had enough of his humungous workload for very little while the landlords pile of wealth constantly grows.

[Midnight]

I get assaulted by the garden every time I step out of the door.

Approaches to projects, etc, would be useful, since I currently have no reliable approach to anything.

Mid.

[sketchling]

hmmm... something interesting...
Did you know where the phrases 'bog standard' and 'dogs bollocks' come from?

(and yes, im sure I AM going to tell you)
when they used to make mikano sets in the old days, they came in two sets. Box : Standard
and
Box : Delux

Those then got alternatively badpronounciatiasized into 'bog standard' and spoonerized into 'the Dogs Bollocks'

*bows*

[Midnight]

I swear I heard that on TV the other day... QI?

diM.

[koshime]

0600
" We are going on a Summah holiday..."
Yesss folks, its going to be another scorching......dry day in ole blighty

0630
everyday when i have to poison people... I join the multitudes of common infestation of KoMMuters called Tube Rats...squeezed into rapidly shuttling metal boxes of poorly ventilated cargo containers for a daily beat the LondON/tuna can experience, how many words you can squueze into a paragraph type event..before being

ejected

0745
onto an exit portal onto the next level, where the mission is to run 5 minutes to the next stage where, a minute hesitation means missing the Mass Transit boss level called the LondON BUS to the massive Boss level called NHS Chelsea & Westminster.

Target 0755

Upon sucessful completion of said mass commute, during which a variation of 45 minutes to 2 hours may occur ,depending on time penalty/bonus points occured.

I pick up my special security bonus key that allows instant/rapid acess to a shuttle elevator to the 5 floor (ala glass greenhous level)

0800

From common man to Gas man..a set of clean dry clothing generically refered to as "scrubs" transforms your average joe into someone whose mindset has to put away the current worries/thoughts of self and family onto the gas posion mindset where we have to

1/ prep the patient (i.e are they fit to be gassed/poisoned and sustained a chainsaw action and subsequent knitting procedure to pretend it all didnt happen sequence?) so we do a good job. Very important that every customer gets the best satisfaction. Pressure...pressure.

2/ if patient was not prepared night before or unsuitable,find suitable scape goat to behead...off with their heads, sorry boss. This candidtate aint ready for today... guess they'll have to WAIT...or maybe get CANCELLED....yes yess..very efficient (oh wait, they decided they're overbudget... they've cut all the worker bees called Staff nurses, scrub staff, theatre staff...and gosh doctors...) nevermind, we dont have to worry abotu starting on time, because even at the CHELSEA blues, we are even more understaffed and cant start operating for today.

Guess all the surgeons and related suitable staff on stanby can go only wring their hands with dismay and have an extended cofee break..... (whilst contemplating job cuts..redundacy and an early retirement...god save the NHS)

0950....

Hmmm, the board called the PIT is full of names, ages and operations to be done. Some have been waiting 4 days.....but wait....there are these new They could be your mother, a child, a stoic french man who runs marathons yearly, the young couple expecting their next child....

But you know, it all doesnt matter. Policy dictates, those illest with the most life threatening symptom shoudl be operated on first. Triage they call it. Those waiting longest and most neediest.

But it al doenst matter. Irrational replaces the rational because...

Of a population of patients called pedeatrics....they are under the age of 16
they've just come in this morning.. and demand to be done first. for a...

nailbed repair....hmmm, small tear to the lip (but but what about the ole biddy who'se hip has been forcibly dislocated by her door 3 days ago...surely that is a priority....)

Hand wringing.....hand wringing....
why dont you ask the surgeon which one is a priority....(kid first kid first they say)

what do you think theatre sister....I duno, better ask the theatre manager....

theatre manager....(please leave your message on the phone and we will get back to you) Hmmm, said overpaid former desk clerk and music teacher now earning upwards of 50k smackers for managing a 34 million overbudget national company must achieve quest to make savings...by any means necessary, some decisions will not require emotion or clinical understanding.

In fact, the less you have a qualification for medically related work, the better the candidate you are. Education is not required. If you achieve to reduce this deficit by 10 million, you will get a hefty bonus salary....

Why dont you ask the other staff.

Hmm,
what do you think anaesthetist...(hmm, those starved, ready and emergency first please... wait, they've just chewed some gum, that counts as having eaten...better starve them another 6 hours....)

Saved by the not eaten yet card

1050

Our first client of the day. Right..I want you to count back from 1 to 10....everything is just fine, you'll just be going for a short nap. We'll look after you well. Everything will be jsut fine. you are in good hands.....

And the poisoning is underway. And a life is in our hands.
Its a good day to let the surgeon get the glory of it all.
Now where is that sudoku.....


NB: We call anaesthetics the poisoning.because the medications given are actually poisons to the body. So in essence they kil if given above the standard doses (standard doses beign derived from multiple drug trials, and tests on what will make a lamb, sheep or mice fall asleep and wake up without significant side effects) with nothing more than a nice short nap. Maybe in some cases, they may feel slightly sick, but otherwise...I've had my operation. really? or some recall having he best dreams ever...

Of course, a slight extra amount, or if the surgery did not go all to plan, then there was all we could do. At the end of any procedure, we reverse these poisons, we turn off the gasses, waft in the good ole gas of oxygen and air..natural to our bodies to wash it all out..and bring them back to life (so to speak)

So, its all really safe and good these days, and we are jsut victims of our progress in medical technology. Viva le drug

[sketchling]

I swear I heard that on TV the other day... QI?

diM.

:D spot on :D

Got lots of other ones from a book too. I love that kinda stuff :) ever wondered where the word 'shit' comes from? (just the word man, the WORD!!)


EDIT : Just read that ,Koshime... hahahaha. Brilliant. Day in the life eh? different world!

[Hybridstar]

Now thats what i call an insight Koshime!. Nice.

[koshime]

slight small edit above. Hopefuly, it doesnt ofend people's sensibilities (if so, I do apologize)

[Quicksilver]

Changed your name to Jane? ;)
"Ja ne" is the Japanese equivalent to "buh-bye". :)

Chee: Hahahaha, awesome. Thanks for the fun read~

Kim: I've no idea! Howeveeerr, I do know where the saying to "kick the bucket" came from...

When people died, they were cleansed before being dressed nicely and placed in their coffins (buh, same as now, but we're talkin' 'bout the olden days :P). However, sometimes, even after death, some of the nerves are still active in the body, causing the deceased body to have the occasional spasm. When they did this, they often kicked the bucket of water which was used to clean them; thus, the saying to "kick the bucket" was born. :)

Another lil fact: It's said that the brain lives on for approximately 8-11 seconds after death. Niiiiiiiice :dead:

There's a book full of explanations to sayings like these but I can't find it. I saw it advertised a while ago at http://www.thebookpeople.co.uk

Is this thread becoming intriguing enough for you, Chris? :P

Ja mata ne~

[asoir]

:grandpa:

Interesting....

[sleep]

http://myspace-401.vo.llnwd.net/00973/10/44/973634401_l.jpg

the proboscis monkey has many names. 'orang belanda', 'nasalis larvatus', 'kahau' {after the honking sound they make with thier nose}, and apparently also 'flying dutchmen'. it is for this reason i could not sit through pirates of the caribbean 2 with a straight face

[Dirty C]

Yes, well done all. Koshime, brilliant post. Really interesting to see just how it is I've ended up sometimes waiting for hours and hours in A&E and sometimes been seen within minutes. Hell, if some old woman's dying, see her first!

In terms of workflow etc, I guess I'll contribute something about my sketchbook. Rules seem to work for people, so here's some sketchbook rules:

1.Experiment, experiment, experiment.
2.Finish everything.
3.Avoid Slavishness.

Ok, the explanations:

1.To me, a sketchbook is a place where your real strength lies. Your ability to evolve as an artist and to define your own style is the sum total of your experimentation to date. New media, new ways of looking at things are key. A sketchbook of finished art, all executed in the same style with the same media is a sign of a dead artist trying to impress somebody. This rule corresponds to rules one and two of the Painting rules ('you're not here to make pretty pictures' and 'everything you do is wrong.')

2.You don't really progress until you finish as many things as possible. Now, this doesn't mean 'open a page, start drawing something, finish it, then never touch that page again.' If you do this, you'll resort to the same technique to get you through it, and you won't experiment with different ideas, because they may end up in bad work. I work on many pages at once in my sketchbook, and often work on top of old drawings, making something cmopletely new. This has been a lot more frequent since I started working with paint media in my book, which is something I learnt from rule #1. So, don't be precious, feel free to go back and fix something, or make it into something totally different. But if you just scribble something then move on and never revisit it, you won't progress. So try and progress everything.

3.Don't use the Coro Technique. Don't use any technique. Experiment with them, use one for a while, but don't get stuck into one way of thinking. That's not you, that's a book. And anyone could learn it. So don't get locked into one way of thinking or working, cause that will kill your development. Also, try not to worry too much - the pages a lot of the guys I spoke to in Montreal really liked were the bad ones I wanted to get rid of. They were happy that someone was experimenting and trying to learn, and it didn't always come off. SO, show your flaws, and don't try to hide everything under a veneer of learned, acquired technique.


Right, that's that. Not as poetic as 'fuck you' but I dunno, hopefully someone benefits from this.

Cheerio
DC

[yAdam]

hehe, Naomi, you still learning Japanese? I stopped for ages, but started again last week. I could go to Japan right now and ask for something in a coffee shop, or ask when things are open and closed from...:)

btw, may not be coming to the meet after all, might be going to newquay instead. Just depends if I can be bothered to get up at 3 on friday and sleep in a tent all weekend. I'll let you know if I can't make it to the meet, but at the moment I am still coming.

....
errm, I do paint, but not in my sketchbook... I really hope i'm not dead as an artist :(..........But I definately should experiment more, I always tell myself to, but it never really happens

[DannySketch]

Every 32 seconds a small squirrel hiccups at a worryingly high frequency.

EDIT:oh great dc has to post somthing incredibly intelligent just as i post this...

but cheers

EDIT AGAIN:dang there starting to drop like flies for the meet huh?would have been good to meet ya yadam, always be a fan of ur stuff.

[Eriboss]

Yes, well done all. Koshime, brilliant post. Really interesting to see just how it is I've ended up sometimes waiting for hours and hours in A&E and sometimes been seen within minutes. Hell, if some old woman's dying, see her first!

In terms of workflow etc, I guess I'll contribute something about my sketchbook. Rules seem to work for people, so here's some sketchbook rules:

1.Experiment, experiment, experiment.
2.Finish everything.
3.Avoid Slavishness.

Ok, the explanations:

1.To me, a sketchbook is a place where your real strength lies. Your ability to evolve as an artist and to define your own style is the sum total of your experimentation to date. New media, new ways of looking at things are key. A sketchbook of finished art, all executed in the same style with the same media is a sign of a dead artist trying to impress somebody. This rule corresponds to rules one and two of the Painting rules ('you're not here to make pretty pictures' and 'everything you do is wrong.')

2.You don't really progress until you finish as many things as possible. Now, this doesn't mean 'open a page, start drawing something, finish it, then never touch that page again.' If you do this, you'll resort to the same technique to get you through it, and you won't experiment with different ideas, because they may end up in bad work. I work on many pages at once in my sketchbook, and often work on top of old drawings, making something cmopletely new. This has been a lot more frequent since I started working with paint media in my book, which is something I learnt from rule #1. So, don't be precious, feel free to go back and fix something, or make it into something totally different. But if you just scribble something then move on and never revisit it, you won't progress. So try and progress everything.

3.Don't use the Coro Technique. Don't use any technique. Experiment with them, use one for a while, but don't get stuck into one way of thinking. That's not you, that's a book. And anyone could learn it. So don't get locked into one way of thinking or working, cause that will kill your development. Also, try not to worry too much - the pages a lot of the guys I spoke to in Montreal really liked were the bad ones I wanted to get rid of. They were happy that someone was experimenting and trying to learn, and it didn't always come off. SO, show your flaws, and don't try to hide everything under a veneer of learned, acquired technique.


Right, that's that. Not as poetic as 'fuck you' but I dunno, hopefully someone benefits from this.

Cheerio
DC

amen.

[cartoonfox]

What the hell just happend in here? ...

[Hybridstar]

Uk response to Christian's growing apathy for the thread, lol.;)

I'm really humbled by Koshimes post, man thats a day!!!! All I have to worry about is getting up and provided i've not forgotten how to hold my drawing implement spend the whole day doing that. Kudos sir.

Well put DC, good advice. I use my sketchbbok as a visual journal. I'll record anything from people i see, objects or things that interest me down to ideas and thoughts for painting and concepts. Wouldnt say i normally experiment with new media in there though, tend to do most of my experimentation during my working day, finding new ways to solve the same old problems.

[koshime]

note, because of the lack of an apostrophe, it could be regarded that faith related christians in general have a growing apathy to concept art in UK.
I didnt set out to humble, but rather sketch out that the daily day (well from 0600 to noon) at the NHS is a mad slaughterhouse (green wing is funny to the point you realise, the damn things actually occur in real life, regularly on an almost daily basis and you dont know if its political to laugh or despair...)

part two and three a coming

Sketchbook - i desire it to be a piece of art. But desire to chaotically destroy it at some point. Work of art work of art dammit!

[Dirty C]

note, because of the lack of an apostrophe, it could be regarded that faith related christians in general have a growing apathy to concept art in UK.
I didnt set out to humble, but rather sketch out that the daily day (well from 0600 to noon) at the NHS is a mad slaughterhouse (green wing is funny to the point you realise, the damn things actually occur in real life, regularly on an almost daily basis and you dont know if its political to laugh or despair...)

part two and three a coming

Sketchbook - i desire it to be a piece of art. But desire to chaotically destroy it at some point. Work of art work of art dammit!

Whoa. Chee's drunk!

[Quicksilver]

Adam: I stopped taking the classes before the year ended because I got fed up of the teacher. Dunno whether to bother taking it next year as he'd have retired by then.

Every 32 seconds a small squirrel hiccups at a worryingly high frequency.

EDIT:oh great dc has to post somthing incredibly intelligent just as i post this...

but cheers.
Hahahahahaha

My day so far:
9am: Woke up
Ate breakfast
Browsed CA ( and laughed at suspected people in the Worse of CA thread)
12pm: Went to the Gym
2:30pm: Came back and ate lunch whilst watching Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex (ep. 16)
3:20pm: Type this post

Woo.

Cheers for the input, Christian :) Now to find my watercolours....

[Hybridstar]

3:20 and no drawing yet, tut, tut, tut.;)

[Quicksilver]

3:20 and no drawing yet, tut, tut, tut.;)
I knooooow :( Been a bit uninspired lately, but I saw a prog on watercolours at the gym so I might try'em out. It's been a year or so since I last touched them.

Wheeeeeeeee CA meet this Sunday :)

[asoir]

I can't join a gym without having to lie about my age...:(

[[void]]

Haha, YOU sir are not old enough to exercise!

My sketchbook is a book that i sketch in. It dosnt have any rules, age requirements or drink limit. I try to keep a balance and often fail, the thing i focus on is the thing i think im worst at, and i like to look at the beginning page on occasion to see if i have got any better since i started it.

[asoir]

Grr, you can enjoy your damn gym, asgardian! I have to do pushups at home.. *grumble*

What does asgardian mean anyway? Are you a bodyguard for famous touches? ;)
[/spite]

[cartoonfox]

If you do push ups make sure your chest touches the floor when going down, and if you can do more than 15 at a time, you are doing them too fast : ]

[lefran]

ah i can only do the girly ones *tries* yup hahaha, at first i could only do like one girly one but i can do about 15 now, yes i have no muscles

[MoP]

I'm joining a gym next week on the company dollar! :D

Naomi: Heh, a bunch of my university friends took Japanese for a few years, you can always tell which ones they are, they sign off emails and blogs with stuff like "Ja mata!" etc. :P

[sketchling]

I have no room in my room for pushups. :( Moving soon...

[Dirty C]

Right, yesterday was good. Let's have some more spam, I'm bored again.

Here's a good one (let's see if we can use image attach in here now):

[yAdam]

Hehe, thats funny dc :)

I got some spam right here, some free advertising....

8246

[sketchling]

that the new definition of 'one inch punch'??

(edit: notice how he looks like an asian spock...???)

[sketchling]

hahaha... this is just too good :
http://www.engrish.com/image/engrish/hello-hitty.jpg
http://www.engrish.com/image/engrish/painapple.jpg
http://www.engrish.com/detail.php?imagename=hamberger-friend.jpg&category=Clothing&date=2006-07-17
http://www.engrish.com/detail.php?imagename=lots-of-enjoy.jpg&category=Clothing&date=2006-04-10

I love that site. And Japan.

[Quicksilver]

LOL, "Painapple", raaawwrr!! xD

I'll contribute to spammage later - got a driving lesson now.

[sleep]

hahaha... this is just too good :
http://www.engrish.com/image/engrish/hello-hitty.jpg
http://www.engrish.com/image/engrish/painapple.jpg
http://www.engrish.com/detail.php?imagename=hamberger-friend.jpg&category=Clothing&date=2006-07-17
http://www.engrish.com/detail.php?imagename=lots-of-enjoy.jpg&category=Clothing&date=2006-04-10

I love that site. And Japan.

as good as that is, i don't think anything tops this one:

http://www.engrish.com/image/engrish/battlerangers.jpg

[asoir]

http://engrish.com/image/engrish/creamy-prison.jpg
http://engrish.com/image/engrish/gay-dad.jpg
http://engrish.com/image/engrish/no-conversation-no-saliva.jpg

[Saimon]

When I went to Japan with my college we noticed they have a chain of department stored named after what they primarily sell. Book Off, for example. Then theres rather unexplicably HARD OFF, which we couldnt work out what they could possibly sell....

I took Japanese for 2 years, apparantly I have an A* in it at GCSE level but I very much doubt it as my entire class got the same grade.

As for my Quite Interesting fact, did you know that its illegal to be a prostitute in Siena....

...if your name is Mary

[asoir]

If you do push ups make sure your chest touches the floor when going down, and if you can do more than 15 at a time, you are doing them too fast : ]
Done and done!
10 very slow... hard though.
*dreams about gym*

[MoP]

Breaking the chain of Engrish with fun angry-cat-holding man:

[Midnight]

Big cat or small man?

[asoir]

NEDM!


It's my birthday today...i'm outta here!

[Midnight]

Please stop calling them 'b-days'. A bidet is something quite different.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bidet

Mid.

[asoir]

Who called it a b-day? Some idiot probably.

[cartoonfox]

Happy birthday dude!

[Dirty C]

Happy birthday! Now who owes me spam?

[Summer Pudding]

happy birthday m'lad

Spudderz

[MoP]

Argh, got a meeting with my new landlord on Sunday morning at 10:30am ... I should still be able to make it for the day, but probably closer to noon now. Fortunately it only takes about 30-45 minutes for me to get in to Leicester Square, and I doubt my meeting will take all that long. I can probably get the train about 11am, which should get me in just before noon. Sorry 'bout that!

[Dirty C]

Dude, don't stress about being too ontime.

For those who have forgotten, we'll aim for the Tate Britain at 1pm. So if you miss Leicester square, we'll probably be there for a couple hours, at a guess. Catch us there or give me a call: 077 9360 6466.

[asoir]

Thanks all :)
I'm kinda stuck on another computer right now...my hard drive decided it would be a good day to go kapoomt. Added the number for just incaseys.
Cant wait!
PS. anyone tried the ice cream place next to it? Niiice!

[Crane]

Happy opposite to death day asoir

on another note, i've moved up to cheshire, chester is a really nice place, anyone been there? or even better anyone live there? i've been helping out on the farm over the road, as much as i love getting shit and peed on i wouldn't mind having someone to hang out with to draw, or even do parkour :)

any takers?

now to draw

[Kian]

Happidy Birthday Asoir!

[DannySketch]

happy B-DAY asoir

oh thats right, i went there...

just out of interest wat sorta times people actually thinking of being there?am gonna try to go early as poss to 'life draw' a bit b4 hand.

[Quicksilver]

Happy Birthday, Asoir. :)

Dan: Me and Fran should be in London around 10:45-11am, so we'll probably be there just a bit after that.

I've almost finished making my roxx0r pencilcase, so if anyone wants to draw all over it on Sunday/Monday you're more than welcome to :D So long as it isn't anything rude, lol.

Wheeee can't wait~

[cartoonfox]

Adam is staying over mine tomorrow, as he has no house in London 'till September : ]
I doubt we'll get to Leicester Sqaure till about 12:30pm, due to a late night of Smash Bros, Star Wars and Family Guy! : ]


Peace.

[Shinryu]

Happy birthday Asoir, hope you had a good one.

cheers

[asoir]

Thanks everyone! Hehe, but what I came here to ask was...is anyone getting there on time?? Everyone seems to be getting there late. I get the feeling i'll be all drawn out by the time you guys get there ;)
Anyone meeting at leicester square station or anything like that? Jus curious, peace!

[cartoonfox]

So you're like, what, 12 now?

I dunno what the official time is, but usualy the first place of meet is there for the very reason that people all turn up at different times.
That way we can all group up before moving out to the tate or whatever.

Oh, and were is the starbucks at Leicester Square? Haven't been in that area in a while.

Peace

[asoir]

Very funny, fox. ;) I'm 6'3 so if I don't appear 15 it's your head screwing with you. BTW, we ARE talking about the starbucks very near the National Gallery right?

[sleep]

the starbucks in leicester sq

just go there and if you cant find it you're blind!

[asoir]

Hey, Starbucks are scarily common, ok?
;)

[Quicksilver]

Think I should bother bringing my old SB?

[sleep]

if you want to get crit maybe, yes..?

[Crane]

damnit, wish i could come, i'm not even sure how far from london cheshire is, does anyone live near here? or does anyone know any travel schemes that i could use? tho medway was crap, it was a damn slight easier to get to london..sigh..

ps has anyone got any hogarth books here? and wat are the best Art of: books? i'm feeling really uninspired, hopefully if i get into college here to do an interactive games course, i'll meet some awesome art people, unlike my dissapointing last year, no idea why alot of the people were even taking an art course, one twat hated art and wanted to be a police man, and he still put in for the next course, anyone ever met anyone like that?

sorry rant over.

[lefran]

same, im gonna bring my oldish one along too, theres not much in my newer one, yeah naomi in case you dont look ive emailed you :)

edit: woohoo! EMA summer bonus is through!

[cartoonfox]

I'm just gonna bring my new sketchbook, which has... 0 pages done!
I'm sick of my old one, I can't be bothered finishing the last few pages.

See you guys tomorrow

Peace

[MoP]

Yeah, I left my old sketchbooks at home, they'll come down when I move house proper, but I've got a few new sketchbooks down with me with only a couple of pages in each, so I'll bring those.

What with starting a new job and moving house, I haven't had a chance to draw much recently... guess I'll have to start up again tomorrow! :o

See you then!

[asoir]

i'll just bring my new one too, my old one is bad enough ;)
i'm bringing frank millers batman: the dark knight returns and maybe ronin too if anyone wants a sneek peek.

[Arcipello]

I guess ill be popping along to the London meet aswell, MoP forced me at gun point to go!

website for anyone interested : www.Artofconway.com

[Midnight]

Great pics on your site, Arcipello!

Hope you all have a good time tomorrow.

Mid.

[Dirty C]

Guys, sometimes I wonder if you've heard of the Internet.

STARBUCKS IS HERE:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=529982&y=181028&z=0&sv=WC2H+9NA&st=2&pc=WC2H+9NA&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf

The postcode is WC2H 9NA. If you want to know how to get there on the tube/bus and how to walk there from the stop, go to http://www.tfl.gov.uk
and put in your starting point (eg, probably Paddington for you welshies) and then put in 'WC2H 9NA' and change the option to 'postcode' for the destination. Then click on 'end map' when you've selected a journey and it'll tell you how to walk there.

[[void]]

Madcat

The skillful huntsman is imo the best record of the concept art process that i have ever seen so far.

Some other good ones are the pixar books, the art of star wars books (ep2 has more trad ep3 has more digital), the art of discworld is worth a look, the art of halo is cool, then theres the lord of the rings books which are great, oh and the art of darkwatch. And i havnt seen any of the ghibli ones but ive ordered the art of howls moving castles which looks cool.

I'm gonna bring a couple of sketchbooks and maybe a new one.

[cartoonfox]

Inter-what now?

[koshime]

Am still working at Chelsea over the weekend but will pop over to nandos in the evening.....with my shirt on and a new sbook

[Crane]

Asgardian
thanks for the info, def look into them, i've seen a oddworld art book somewhere on this site, do ya know where i can get that?
and how much are these books? i'm guessing not cheap neither.

[cartoonfox]

Depends on where you look. Amazon often has good prices.
Also depends on the size. You could pay £5- £10 for a small book (10 pages or so) all the way up to £30 or more for a large hard cover book.
Check Amazon and search for stuff.

Chi I'll see you at Nando's then : ]


Peace

[yAdam]

I have to second asguardians recommendation of the skillful huntsman, most of the work in it is stunning. Also, even though they are pretty expensive to ship, some of the ballistic titles are good, especially 'painter' and the new concept art one looks pretty good too.... World of Kong art book is quality too... I only have one Hogarth book, dynamic anatomy and its cool.

I definately won't be at the meet tomorrow now...:( Have a good one, and hope the next meet won't be too far away...:yayca:

[Molly]

er...cant make tomorrows meet, got a shitty map to draw...

:(

Mx

[Crane]

mmm yea i'll check out amazon and the skillful huntman, i saw that somewhere on the internet, had some awesome shit in it. i've been meaning to get some gnomon workshop dvds, any one got any? recommand any?

i got two hogarth books, D.anatomy and D.figure drawing, is yours the revised and expanded edition?

EDIT: I found a good deal on amazon, just under 20 quid hardcover, delievered free in uk. sweet, think i'll be investing in that

[MoP]

That sucks, Molly - ah well... some other time, then!

[Flynn]

Is there ever a meeting going for North England? Perhaps manchester?

[asoir]

That sucks, Molly...ah well :(

[DannySketch]

i third a 'that sucks molly'

asoir im gonna be there on time, if not early

madcat also have the same hogarth books as u, currently making my way through the D anatomy one, and have just ordered the 'rendering matte surfaces' volume 1 gnomon dvd, with the shipping on top of it it was pretty expensive £35 im hoping its worth it, i'll let ya know

Asgardian cheers man am gonna check out those books

cya y'all 2morrow

peace

[Crane]

madcat also have the same hogarth books as u, currently making my way through the D anatomy one, and have just ordered the 'rendering matte surfaces' volume 1 gnomon dvd, with the shipping on top of it it was pretty expensive £35 im hoping its worth it, i'll let ya know

peace

Sweet, i'm gunna collect his set once i get enough money, but for now the books i have are great. nice one, been wanting to get puddnheads dvds, or any pencil and ditital coloring ones. thanks, look forward to the review

I've found Art of halo, the skillful huntsman and the oddword art book (but thats to much for me, would love the limited addition books) oh and the darkwatch one. are there any others i could get on amazon cheapish, like 25-30 quid max?

ps, anyone know if there are any Art of final fantasy books or the sort?

Sweet, i just found both starwars art books ep2 and ep3 for 33 quid for both. nice.

[asoir]

Guys, sometimes I wonder if you've heard of the Internet.

STARBUCKS IS HERE:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=529982&y=181028&z=0&sv=WC2H+9NA&st=2&pc=WC2H+9NA&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf

The postcode is WC2H 9NA. If you want to know how to get there on the tube/bus and how to walk there from the stop, go to http://www.tfl.gov.uk
and put in your starting point (eg, probably Paddington for you welshies) and then put in 'WC2H 9NA' and change the option to 'postcode' for the destination. Then click on 'end map' when you've selected a journey and it'll tell you how to walk there.
i searched this, but using google maps i found that the only starbucks in leicester square has the adress of-
7-9 Leicester Square
London, WC2H 7NA
020 7439 2667

where did you find 9NA?

edit- http://home.flash.net/~ral1/starbucks/bigimages/DSCN7526.jpg to get an idea what it looks like :P

[Quicksilver]

Is anyone free to hang out on Monday? Otherwise Fran and I will have to shop all day. Pssht, just think how stressful that would be - the trauma! :P

[Dirty C]

On the starbucks website. At any rate, there's only one in leicester square, and it's at the top of the square itself. So it shouldn't be hard to find.

[MoP]

Sorry Naomi... got work :P

[koshime]

sorry naomi - have to study....

[DannySketch]

hey naomi im gonna check out the life drawing place in angel christian mentioned a couple of pages back on monday, its £6 a go and from 7 to 9, u and fran fancy going?

[Crane]

I would totally hang out tomoz and monday if i was anywhere near london, or knew anyway of getting there in such short notice :( sorry naomi

are there any matrix, final fantasy or riddick art books?

[Quicksilver]

Aww k, no worries, guys (work's more important ^_^; )

Dan: Fran and I have to catch the 7:30pm coach back so no can do :( Would've loved to though.

[sleep]

i'm completely free monday... so if anybody's doing anything, hit me up on msn {clockwork_tie at hotmail dot com} or just tell me in person, tomorrow

see you all there

[Flynn]

Anyone interested in getting A Manchester one going? :D

[asoir]

Just about to leave...see ya there!

[Dirty C]

Flynn, I think Harry's up there. Also there's been long held rumours of northern meets. All you northerners, fess up!

I'm about to leave now, too. Should be there before 10.30.

Yay! Quite excited to be seeing you all again!

[MoP]

Meeting time was pushed back to 11am. If we get it over with quickly, we can probably get in for noon, just.
Chances are we'll just have to meet you all at the national gallery around 1pm.

[Crane]

I'm a northerner,...now...in cheshire,is that far?

[koshime]

still working. hope u guys have pics to show at the end of the day......

[Bendragon]

Im in Manchester too :overhere: If your interested to know, Harry, thegreypencil and I often go to life drawing there on wednesdays.
Hope everyone enjoyed the London meet. Im so envious I feel like smacking my head against a wall :frustrated:
Any words on another meet? hehehe

[asoir]

just got back, sorry i couldn't make it to nando's guys! had a great time during it though :D

[Crane]

Just made my list of books to order!

16 books in total

List is in my lounge thread, if anyone has anymore recommandations, please get them up!

thanks to asgardian and yadam for the positive comments on the skillful huntsman. *thumbsup*

can't wait to get them. so exicted!

Hope ya all had a good meet, shame i couldn't make it.

[MoP]

Nice meeting you folks, was a fun day! Will have to do it again some time soon.
Cool to be able to put more faces to names, too.

Possibly some better planning needed next time to avoid the butch topless black men in denim briefs, though. Unless that's what floats your boat.

Asoir: You say more on the forums than you do in real life ;)

fran: Was really impressed with your sketchbook, I guess I haven't been checking the sketchbook forum enough recently, 'cos you're way better than I thought you were, for some reason! I need to get more sketching practise in, my sketchbooks are in a horrible state of disrepair at the moment.

Naomi: Next time we should endeavour to sit closer to the brass band and further from the ninja squirrels.

Adam: I'm guessing you post as "yAdam", right? Really nice work in your sketchbook, I'm humbled. How old are you?

Everyone else: Thanks for getting this all organised and showing up (where possible). Was nice meeting you all!

[cartoonfox]

Just got home.
Had fun, didn't do any drawing but I am nice and full now. The ice cream really hit the spot! : ]


Peace

[asoir]

Nice meeting you folks, was a fun day! Will have to do it again some time soon.
Cool to be able to put more faces to names, too.

Possibly some better planning needed next time to avoid the butch topless black men in denim briefs, though. Unless that's what floats your boat.

Asoir: You say more on the forums than you do in real life ;)

fran: Was really impressed with your sketchbook, I guess I haven't been checking the sketchbook forum enough recently, 'cos you're way better than I thought you were, for some reason! I need to get more sketching practise in, my sketchbooks are in a horrible state of disrepair at the moment.

Naomi: Next time we should endeavour to sit closer to the brass band and further from the ninja squirrels.

Adam: I'm guessing you post as "yAdam", right? Really nice work in your sketchbook, I'm humbled. How old are you?

Everyone else: Thanks for getting this all organised and showing up (where possible). Was nice meeting you all!

I was sitting back and enjoying the conversation!
Besides, it was my first time. :P

[MoP]

Was my first time too! :o

Sitting back and enjoying the conversation is fine too, though :)

[asoir]

Was my first time too! :o

Sitting back and enjoying the conversation is fine too, though :)
oh all right, NEXT TIME!

[sleep]

asoir, MoP... i have no idea who you two were... any photos so i can put the names to the faces?

yes it was a lovely little day, the ice cream at the end was lovely too.

07981 655 093, hit me up if you wanna do anything tomorrow. naomi, fran, myself and some others (???) will be going out shopping for art stuff among other things, and i'm meeting up with dannysketch to go to a lifedrawing session in angel {mentioned above, only £6 a shot} so, yes, call if you want to do anything. will post a nice review of the meet on the lj community (http://community.livejournal.com/ca_uk) when we get some pictures up.

[cartoonfox]

I might come down tomorrow but I don't think I can afford it : [

We'll see

[asoir]

i left first, didn't make it to nandos. Blue jumper, jeans.
i'm guessing you were the guy with the fringe right?

[Flynn]

Awesome, I need a big improvement in my life drawing ;( its hindering my animation play time. But I hate going into a new place not knowing no-one, or if its any good ^^

Would love to get a good CA life drawin sesh goin up north ;) Dunno, mebe when uni starts again?

[MoP]

tie: Asoir was the tall, quiet one with dark hair who left when we were still in the park.

I was the one with the brown t-shirt and glasses, who commented on your hair and talked about university and studying art a bit.

Dan (Arcipello on the forums, www.artofconway.com ) is a colleague of mine, he was the one with the strong geordie accent.

[yAdam]

MOP: The Adam you were talking about is Asguardian, not me :) I wasnt at the meet.....hope someone took some photos!

[sleep]

ahh MoP i remember you now.. but your description of asoir sounds like me

[MoP]

wtf? was i intensely confused then? so you didn't come with us to nando's, tie? o_O

[[void]]

Adam: I'm guessing you post as "yAdam", right? Really nice work in your sketchbook, I'm humbled. How old are you?

Sorry man my brain isnt at all that retentive? Did you see my sketchbook and when and what one and who were you?! Oh, and why were you humbled?

I'm 20 years dead mate. And yeah my username is asgardian. (not for much longer hopefully)

I wish I could have seen the constable thing but it was my own fault really, had a really cool time it was great seeing everyone again aswell as the new faces. Hopefully the next wont be too far away.

[MoP]

I glanced at it when Danny and Dan (heh) were taking a look at it in Nando's. Your old sketchbook, I think. Still has some really nice stuff in, I particularly liked the thumbnail character designs.
Mainly humbled 'cos you're a year or so younger than me and way better at drawing/ideas etc. Same applies to Naomi, Fran, probably some other folks who were there and actually practise their art :)

[[void]]

Hahaha thanks mate, dont be its not good for my ego. Its a shame we didnt get a chance to chat ive seen your folio i thought it was cool. I need to start learning some modelling basics for the future.

[sleep]

no, MoP, i did come to nando's with you.. i was just simply saying that i too, am a quiet, tall, dark haired boy {hey that sort of sounds romantic}

err, yes, anyway. adam, the constable exhib. wasn't that much anyway. we had a quick look at it and i don't think it's his best work. that or he's not all he's cracked up to be? his draft pieces were a lot more energetic and alive than his final finished pieces.

[Arcipello]

Hey guys, Daniel here (the guy that turned up with MoP) my first ever conceptart meet yesterday was suprisingly cool:D Ive never seen so many skethbook freaks in my life!
Its been too long since i kept a sketch book but after seeing all your work i think i might start to take my sketch books more seriously:)

and yes we need to see photos from yesterday so that we can place names above the heads etc, although im quickly learning who is who, tie ,Asgardian, molly, Danny etc etc i can pretty much put the names to the face.

theres one or two sketch books scans on my site, hopefully im going to change that over time!

[asoir]

ok i'll get the old panorama shot out

edit- sorry asgardian if i wasn't sure.
obviously i'm the one behind the camera :P
taken with the phone so it's a bit screwed up.

[asoir]

naturally the train ride back was painfully hot..

http://img417.imageshack.us/img417/8729/dsc00101mj6.jpg
http://img424.imageshack.us/img424/1132/dsc00088wx9.jpg
http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/1760/dsc00098em3.jpg

taken with the phone

[Kian]

That looked a really nice day. MoP and Arcipello, Danny, Fran, and whatsisname the guy who hardly posts ever^^^ *grin*, hope I get to meet you guys eventually.

[Arcipello]

ahh Kian, another Nuclear Dawn captive ;) had no idea you were in the UK, there are 4 ex-ND people working with me now:P no doubt ill get to meet you at a future CA london meet.