DSG 418: Character: Fisherman of the Li River

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Today's topic is: Character: Fisherman of the Li River

[artistanbul]

probably more to come
http://img38.photobucket.com/albums/v116/artistanbul/fisher2.jpg

[beeglebug]

Here's my first attempt today, i'm sure i'll do at least one more.

Comments and suggestions will be greatly appreciated, I need to get better, and I hope you guys can help me!

http://www.updownleftright.net/DSG/DSG418.jpg

edit: Sorry the picture is missing guys, my web host seems to have died for the afternoon. I'm sure it will be working again soon enough!

[antecraft]

artistanbul: i love your style....
beeglebug: i would give you some crits but im not exactly the greatest person to learn from x; all i have to say is that the guy looks kind of stiff or at least his legs do. Everything is looks good

[andres_pad]

not long in charcoal.
http://img29.photobucket.com/albums/v87/andres_pad/P4190017.jpg

aristan bull i really like that. its kinda simplistic and laidback. its cool.

[andres_pad]

eww, sorry about the quality guys

[artistanbul]

thanks people, beeglebug, you are on the right track. that worm you did with artrage was pretty good too. andres, I see you are taking it more serious. thats good. this is waaay much better than the previous ones. keep it like that I say..

http://img38.photobucket.com/albums/v116/artistanbul/fisherriverr.jpg

[rift]

i went for the crazy old geezer fisher
http://www.westnet.com.au/mlucas/lifisherman.jpg

[Matt Dixon]

http://www.vortex.plus.com/LiFisherman.jpg

[Osmus]

matt dixon-your fisherman reminds me of Kill Bill volume 2- Pai Mei. funny stuff

http://img7.photobucket.com/albums/v18/osmus/fisherman.jpg

[Jebus]

http://img3.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/draak_copy.jpg

[young paddy1]

aren't these the guys who use cormerants (sp?) to fish for them?

[artistanbul]

the last one I promise. Matt Dixon, nice as usual.

http://img38.photobucket.com/albums/v116/artistanbul/fisherman.jpg

[JABAJAWOOLU]

artistanbul... keep em comin bro. awesome stuff as per usual. i love your style.

MD ... Welcome back! haha good job man. like the vivid colours.

ive done three for today in my sketch pad. but im at school atm so gotta wait till i get home to scan em in. might colour em too. man have i got to get the program artistanbul is using.

[H.Evans]

I'll try coloring this in PS7, for now here's the ink sketch... improvised; no tentative pencil underneath

http://astro.temple.edu/~hillaryl/fisherbw.jpg

Started coloring/painting:

http://astro.temple.edu/~hillaryl/fishercolor%20copy.jpg

I'll probably continue this in the WIP section.

[antecraft]

greak work everyone :chug:
hopefully ill have time to do this one during class ;)

[young paddy1]

http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v19/youngpaddy1/fishing_on_the_river_yi.jpg

1 hour with refs from google

MD - looks great as usual, confucious say man with hole in pocket feel cocky all day (sorry really bad joke)

artistanbul - do you have a lot of time on your hands or what? excellent style, and the chang of pace in the middle

[Defunct]

Behold my bad compositioning

http://img8.photobucket.com/albums/v28/Defunct/oriental.jpg

Hillartsympho : Nice, I dig the athmosphere.
artistanbul : wow - neat textures :eek:

[H.Evans]

thanks defunct, good color there

[dagreengo]

Artistambul and Dixon = great stuff.
Dfunct - fantastic colors, but the bird is kinda weird lookin

Quicky on lunch break
http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v159/dagreengo/dsg418.jpg

[Defunct]

thx for the comments

Originally posted by dagreengo
but the bird is kinda weird lookin


Yeah, kinda looks like a penguin with big wings rather than a cormoran :/ Should have spent more time getting the shape right. The orange on the wings is supposed to represent strong backlight and the transparency of the wings, but dunno if it works..

[dagreengo]

The orange on the wings is great, its subtle enough that it makes it realistic, really the only thing is the shape. but personally i've always found birds hard to draw :P

[Helzer]

Dixon - great work!


http://www.blitzdesign.net/dsg/li_river.jpg

[Matt Dixon]

Good God, Dan - that's a completely wonderful image. Hats off to you, sir!

[S.C. Watson]

http://img9.photobucket.com/albums/v25/Oregano/Sketchbook/Li-River.jpg
Painter 8, roughly about an hour and a half, from ref.

Cheers,
~Oreg.

PS, here's the ref piece that I worked from:

http://www.sino.net/Lonely_Planet/china/8-7.jpg

[zkreso]

Didn't bother with scanning today... so here's a digital one done with a mouse.

http://zkreso.jamesmusgrave.com/dsg/19-4-04.jpg

Great work everyone btw!

[xbiten]

here's mine. around an hour. The thing that toke some time were the threes so I didn't finish it, I overpainted it with some fog instead :D. otherwise I could probably have done this in 30 mins.
http://members.lycos.co.uk/xbiten/2D/dsg's/dsg418.jpg

zkreso: wonderful.....do I have to say more :D.
Oregano: absolutely beatiful. any tips you want to share?:D
Helzer: ohhh my god!!! That's so beutiful. applause...
Matt Dixon: welcome back and as usual you tribute with a stunning picture.
Defunct: that's just great. I agree about the penguinthingy but the rest is thumbs up.
artistanbul: The ordinary artistanbul-style, but I love it.
young paddy1: very nice rendering.
beeglebug: That's great, you're getting noticeably(I wonder if this is a word?:)) better and better. keep up.

[JABAJAWOOLU]

OMG sorry for the humungus pics. lemme size those down a bit.
got bored in class. first two took 10 mins each. last one took 15 mins b/c i started paying attention to the lecture lmao.
all of em done in sketchpad with Conte Crayon.
http://www.renderosity.com/photos/ArtistArticle7851.jpg
http://www.renderosity.com/photos/ArtistArticle7852.jpg
http://www.renderosity.com/photos/ArtistArticle7853.jpg

xbitten... nicely done. would like to see it with the trees. even if unfinished.

ZK... WOW! you did THAT with a mouse?!

Oregano... WHEW very beautiful. nice rendering. did u pick the hues from the reference too or u colour it yourself? very nicely done.

Helzer... very neat stuff man. love the technique. and i really like the odd ratio of the image size. very kool.

Defunct... awesome colours. great setting. nice penguin lol.

Young Paddy.... really neat. like the strokes. black and white fits this theme really well.

[Osmus]

heres another one. i like the atmosphere in yours oregano. p.s. i'm trying to learn so if anyone has any type of crits or whatever that will help me improve please feel free to crack at it. be harsh : )

http://img7.photobucket.com/albums/v18/osmus/fishermanriver.jpg

[Matt Smith]

I tried more for a chinese pen and ink wash look.

http://www.mattksmith.com/Fisherman.jpg


My favorites are Helzer's and Oregano's.

Helzer: I really love that texture.

Oregano: Great colors and great scenary. One picky comment thoough. Add alittle reflection under the finsher man, right now it looks like he is flying and about to crash into the water.

Artistanbul: 2nd piece i really like the style and the look of it. The fisherman looks like he is going ot break his rod in 2. Poor guy must be having a bad day fishing.

Dixon: Nice colors and nice painterly techinque, though I dont think it is one of your better ones. The face just bothers me alittle.

zkreso: I like the lonely mood of it. It actually looks like you use real water color for certain parts of it.

[Helzer]

Hi Osmus.

I generally don't give crits but since you ask, then I will do my duty to dish it.

One of the reasons oregano succeeds (in my opinion) is that he has chosen a color palette. In this case a warm one...almost limited to various values and temperatures of orange. It brings a sense of harmony and balance to the whole composition.

Your piece, in comparison, in a literal (or perhaps symbolic) interpretation: grass is green, sky is blue, roses are red, etc. I can go at lengths with this issue, but in short the solution can be one of two things:

A. Chose a limited color palette like oregano. And don't confuse limited with simple. Many masters have used limited palettes.

B. Use the principle of color repeat. Basically it is this: Once a color is used, it must be applied throughout the entire painting, whether in small amounts or large. For instance, in Dixon's painting one will noticed how he applied blue in many areas of the painting not just the sky. One can see it in the rim of the hat, alongside the cheek, the beard, etc. It ties the composition together.

Anyhow, that's enough out of me. Hope this helps.

Helzer

[Osmus]

wow. that makes a whole lotta sense! thank you i appreciate the advice.

[puffin]

Beautiful pictures Oregano and Helzer.
This was done in Painter 8, 1 hour.

The Assertive Fisherman:
http://www.travisgreenstreet.com/images/pimps/fisherman.jpg

[BRANDISH]

http://img36.photobucket.com/albums/v109/Brandish/liriver2.jpg

[Barti89]

http://img3.photobucket.com/albums/v32/barti89/dsg/dsg_li_river.jpg
Photo ref. had to rush the guy :S sleep

[dagreengo]

I've noticed that though all of the entries are excellent and many are beautiful, the focus is less often the character. More often the (breathtaking) landscapes dominate the canvas. Not a criticism really just a curiosity.

[nBT]

http://www.mattijsart.com/dsg/dsg418fishermanofliriver.jpg

i remember these books (when i was a kid) from a japanese drawer wich would draw huge detailed landscapes and people in it. so this is kinda an imitation. straight brush pen ink and some pencil construction lines recoloured in ps

[Osmus]

a submission by my significant other.

http://img7.photobucket.com/albums/v18/osmus/Heathersfisherman.jpg

[YeeWu]

The composition is a little weird, but here goes:

http://www.effloresce.com/sijun/april_18_2004.jpg

[DV8]

literally 2 mins- no ref, no revisons, hardly any time :(

http://www.mikephillips.ca/dsg/dsg_418_fisherman_Li_River.jpg

[Al Ian]

I have one I thought was pretty cool to post. However my personal web space will be down for 24 to 48 hours. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooo. And I realy wanted to post this one too!!! Oh well, I'll post it late. Hope somebody comes back to view it later :)

By the way, some realy cool stuff up here today!

[JABAJAWOOLU]

DV8 u make me sick! 2 mins?! bah. wish i had that kinda skill. i dont suck i know that but if i had that speed i could suck a lot less haha.

the significant other pic is cool. looks like she had some fun with it
:beer:

YeeWu... dont see any issues with this. i like the monocolour thing goin on inside the b/w image. keep it up.

Brandish... nice work as per usual. love the scenery.

as for the fact that most are studying the landscape rather than the character.. thats true, but still brings the whole thing together. i myself didnt even look this morn to see if it was a char concept or a scenery/char concept. but either way everyone seems to get the point. :chug:

[JecaTatu]

http://www.discoredstudio.com/traditional/painting/2004_04_19_fisherman.jpg
good stuff everybody. here's my thing for today... probably about 3 hours work, with the pencils and inks done during lecture. haven't contributed to dsg in quite some time, but hopefully i will be able to do so more often.

you know, i had a book as a small child that was about the cormorant and something or other, probably something to do with cheese dip. but the one thing that really stuck with me was the way they had their throats bound so that they couldn't swallow the fish they catch. i wonder if that book is still at me mum's.

[DV8]

Originally posted by JABAJAWOOLU
[B]DV8 u make me sick! 2 mins?! bah. wish i had that kinda skill. i dont suck i know that but if i had that speed i could suck a lot less haha.



hahah I dont know if I should take that as a compliment or take that as an insult... :)

[Commander Obvious]

Favorites: Helzer, Oregano, and Artistanbul (how'd you do that?)

Mine should be a reminder not to the kids: stay off drugs! :P

http://img28.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Russell_Collins/DailySketchBook/DSG418_FishermanOfTheLiRiver.jpg

I was just experimenting with different effects. Eh. Whatever...

[S.C. Watson]

Hey folks,

Wow, thanks for all of the comments today. I didn't think the piece was that great :hmm: But there-in lies a lesson about perception and how we see our own stuff.

Ah, a couple of people asked about it or made comments...

Matt: You are right about the reflection - I noticed that immediately after posting, but didn't have the time to put it in.

JABAJAWOOLU: to answer your question, yes :D I did my best to eye-ball the colors on the ref photo, but I did use the color picker here and there. I was tyring reproduce them as naturally as possible - in other words I was trying to avoid using the color picker, but didn't see a problem doing it where I felt it was needed. I'll post the reference picture underneath the painting so you can compare what I did against the photograph.

xbiten: Any tips I want to share? Um, chew your food :D Seriously, the only thing I did was a landscape study, everything was there, I just worked at interpeting it. If there is anything specific you would like to know, just ask.

I think that's it for the moment. Looking forward to tomorrow.

Cheers,
~Oreg.

PS - I recall that the comerants (I *just know* I misspelled that...) get something like one fish for every 7 or 9 they catch. I do not recall where I learned that tho.

[onionface]

I dont know how to post my picture,
so heres a link, enjoy
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/6693171/

[Myriadian]

Great work from everyone today. It's an idea to draw that definitely has... strength--if that makes any sense.

My favourite would have to be Helzer's. The textures in that are amazing, and bring a sense of life. I can feel the rock, and sense of the dewy grass. Amazing work.

[JABAJAWOOLU]

click the image button and an http box will open. post that link in the box. the picture will show up automatically. ;)

Oregano... ahh i see now. great job man. im trying to get the colour thing down myself. but that darn colour picker just keeps gettin in my way. gotta keep from giving into temptation lol. nah in all seriousness i try to do mine from scratch as well, but sometimes i just get that colour that i cant quite get right. :rolleyes:

[H.Evans]

color copy update... not finished, see WIP section

http://astro.temple.edu/~hillaryl/fishercolor%20copy.jpg

great stuff today everyone!

[silentbrain]

http://venimarolka.com/dump/042004-dsg-lifisherman.jpg

[-W.-]

http://www.babyloncargocult.com/Pix/W/dsg/dsg418fisherman.jpg