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fredflickstone
April 7th, 2004, 06:11 PM
The images here are over a year old. But I started shooting my stuff again.

Here is dump 1:


http://www.rev-art.com/lemenimages/z1.jpg

http://www.rev-art.com/lemenimages/z2.jpg

http://www.rev-art.com/lemenimages/z3.jpg

http://www.rev-art.com/lemenimages/z4.jpg

http://www.rev-art.com/lemenimages/z5.jpg

This page here is demonstrations from class. Around 25 minutes each. The knight was a Comicon demo, 40 minutes.

The long poses are 1.5 hours each, the quicksketches are all 5s and 2 minute poses.

fredflickstone
April 7th, 2004, 06:12 PM
http://www.rev-art.com/lemenimages/z6.jpg

http://www.rev-art.com/lemenimages/z7.jpg


http://www.rev-art.com/lemenimages/z8.jpg

fredflickstone
April 7th, 2004, 08:08 PM
http://www.rev-art.com/lemenimages/Life1.jpg

http://www.rev-art.com/lemenimages/Life2.jpg

http://www.rev-art.com/lemenimages/Life3.jpg

http://www.rev-art.com/lemenimages/Life4.jpg


Posted these over on the life painting thread also.

Ron

ramoutar
April 7th, 2004, 08:52 PM
Wow...dude...these are beautiful. That's all I can say.

I'm speechless...

endregan
April 7th, 2004, 08:54 PM
what can i say...

this is amazing

something i hope to aspire to!

the balance between painting and life drawing that you have leaves me in awe :)

drdarrow
April 7th, 2004, 09:43 PM
Ron, those are astonishingly great drawings!

What days are you there, I'll come watch you draw/teach.

--David

fredflickstone
April 7th, 2004, 09:53 PM
thank you for the crits, comments.

drdarrow, I teach everyday but Friday.

www.wattsatelier.com has the schedule, you can find a class that works around your teaching also. Its a full week, but its teaching, so I cannot complain a bit.

Come on up anytime you like, I would love to get you around more. You would enjoy the energy level at the school now...intense...

Ron

Skank
April 8th, 2004, 02:57 AM
these are so inspiring ron!!!
its stuff like this thats opened my eyes and really shown me how far i still have to go....and makes me hungry for more knowlege!
i plan on attending your school next year, trust me, id go NOW if i could afford it, but i hafta save up for the move.
im really looking forward to meeting you and the other instructors and starting my education...im VERY excited!

thank you for sharing these! theyre going in my inspirations folder =)

Deth Jester
April 8th, 2004, 05:25 PM
I want to be able to do that! You truly are able to capture something that a camera cannot! Inspiring Ron.. truly inspiring! I came down about a year ago to check out your guys school.. I sat in on one of Jeff's Intro to painting classes... I really enjoyed the atmosphere.. Hopefully after I graduate in May, I'll be able to come and take some classes.

thank you for sharing Ron,
-mike

WillSchnevel
April 12th, 2004, 08:10 PM
I'm breathless, those are absolutely stunning!

dzu
April 13th, 2004, 02:25 AM
Kick ass Ron. Glad you started to post more of your stuff...very inspiring as usual.

dns2k
April 15th, 2004, 01:19 AM
amazing...

-dns

pandawhipped
April 15th, 2004, 02:31 PM
These are sweet, thanks for postin' em Ron. I'll be in class next week in case you thought "wheres that skinny dude?" I've been sick with the flu :(

amphex
April 16th, 2004, 02:13 PM
Wow...so inspiring!
Thanks for showing these Ron, its always a good day when I see a new(er) post from you :D!

warmblade
April 17th, 2004, 10:36 AM
Wow Wow Wow!! Awesome I love your work! Big fan. Please post when you can. I learn soooo much from your posts..

What kind of Charcoal do you use to draw with?

Is it a 4b or 6b?


Thanks

fredflickstone
April 29th, 2004, 07:10 PM
http://www.rev-art.com:/lemenimages/paintings1.jpg
http://www.rev-art.com:/lemenimages/paintings2.jpg
http://www.rev-art.com:/lemenimages/paintings3.jpg


Posted these over in life painting thread also.


Some new paintings. Mostly quick sketches, under 45 minutes each, and all of them except the head on wood panel are 16 x 20 or larger. These are exercises in color...the images are shot under terrible conditions, so they appear a bit redder than they should. Cheapo digital shots...

the third page has a few longer head studies in it. The heads are 2.5 hours. The large still life canvas is 18 x 36. It is a new class we have, still life quick sketch. For some reason, we are big on the quick sketch classes...

Main Loop
April 29th, 2004, 07:28 PM
i have a question for you about the quick drawing studies: how do you go about executing them? do you have a plan in your head as you do them or do you sorta eyeball it as you go along? is there a certain method you stick to?

oh yeah, and im gonna be the next person to ask you to make a gouache painting demo hah

fredflickstone
April 29th, 2004, 07:38 PM
Heh, I am working on it. I screwed up the last two and forgot to shoot a good sequence. I shot the beginning and the end. So one more try...

None of these are really planned out in the beginning. The pose is taken, or the still life is revealed, and we have to execute from there. I am always trying to think about a composition on the canvas. I dont know how many poses there will be, so I have to hope for the better. In some cases I end up having to get another canvas out. I work larger than normal, that is, we say work small so as not to create so much frustration, but I want to work big to stretch my own limits. I think its a healthy change from little uptight illustrations. Color and composition are my main concerns, the drawing is intuitive I think...heh

Ron

Main Loop
April 29th, 2004, 08:03 PM
i appreciate the quick response, and thats good insight but i was referring to the charcoal drawings, not the paintings.. i'll be holdin out for that gouache demo heh

fredflickstone
April 29th, 2004, 08:12 PM
same thing applies, only with them I am aiming for a feeling on the over all page, and the models mood, posture and attitude dictate that for me...heh


Thanks.

Ron

PhilHolland
April 29th, 2004, 08:34 PM
Well Ron,
I've been studing these for a bit now (and will a little more when I get home).

Everything just jumps out at you at first and you say "Wow that's nice". But, it's more then that.

Your feature placement is so dead on.
The way you display form through light and shadow.
The anatomy.
Overall technique.
The palette choices.
You have a very convincing way of making the viewer feel the weight on a figure.



Gah. It's driving me nuts. This is extremely educational for me though.

I was taught by Glen Vilppu, who is great in his own right. But I seem to relate and see more with your way and KChen's way of doing things.

Thanks for sharing, and please by all means, post more.

Phil

Main Loop
April 29th, 2004, 10:04 PM
ah so what you're saying is that you are looking for composition overall, and that the arrangement of the individual figures on the page also contributes to that?

fredflickstone
April 30th, 2004, 02:23 AM
Main Loop-yes, the figures contribute completely to the page. The figures obviously, I dont know what they will pose like, so I am hoping for the better. I usually start with how the pose looks. If it is a pose that leans to the left and the arm continues to the left, then the pose might go toright top corner of the page. ITs all guessing, in the end, of the components dont line up, then I use the darks surrounding the figure and compose those as a page. There is always a scape goat...


Mr. Holland, thank you so much. I dont notice those things, I think I am scraping, and a bad ass guy like you saying those things...wow...I am speechless. THose are the things I am most consious of ...spelled wrong... and now you say I am doing them...I hope I dont fug up now. THanks for the words...I am painting you again soon. Get more digipics up....
Ron

Metrini
April 30th, 2004, 08:49 AM
I definitely need to find myself in a few of your classes during a summer period.

WOW absolutely beautiful works!

PhilHolland
April 30th, 2004, 01:15 PM
I'm glad I make your bad ass list, although I don't know what I did to deserve it.

It's strange how an artist will be insecure with their abilities. Maybe even feel like they are slacking off. I mean, I know I can draw a skull at any angle, but that doesn't mean that every one I draw will be to my liking.

I think it's the same with your work. You may not feel you are using those "rules", but because of the experience it definitly shows in the work.

Something even stranger to me, is looking back at drawings that I thought I really didn't like, but realizing they aren't half bad. Mr. Quarnstrom, here at work, taught me to focus on each idea as whole. He liked some of my concepts that I didn't even give a chance. He told me to stand back for a moment, maybe even get away from the artwork and look at what's really going on. Sadly, I am just figuring this out.

Phil

fredflickstone
May 4th, 2004, 08:51 PM
http://rev-art.com/lemenimages/painting6.jpg todays painting, 2 hours...

http://rev-art.com/lemenimages/paintings4.jpg
http://rev-art.com/lemenimages/paintings5.jpg

some other paintings from the past...posted this with explanations over on the life painting thread


Pick em apart...

Ron

James Kei
May 5th, 2004, 11:07 AM
These are awesome Ron,
I love that last set.
Very solid!

I'm in the L.A. area from time to time, I would love to drop by the studio, and take a peek.

fredflickstone
May 6th, 2004, 07:13 PM
Thank you James...inspiring from a guy with a talent like yours...

Here are a ew new images to update the drawings part of this thread...hack em up...chop chop


Heh


Ron
http://rev-art.com/lemenimages/figure1.jpg
http://rev-art.com/lemenimages/figure2.jpg
http://rev-art.com/lemenimages/FIGURE3.jpg
http://rev-art.com/lemenimages/FIGURE4.jpg
http://rev-art.com/lemenimages/FIGURE5.jpg
http://rev-art.com/lemenimages/FIGURE6.jpg
http://rev-art.com/lemenimages/FIGURE7.jpg
http://rev-art.com/lemenimages/FIGURE8.jpg

Many more to come...all the quick sketches are 3-5 minutes each. A few of the longer poses were 1.5 hours each....the rest are demos for my classes. all on 18 x 24 smooth newsprint and Ritmo charcoal...

whatyoumaydo
May 6th, 2004, 10:19 PM
wow, this stuff is amazing. how do you get some of these demos so resolved in just 25 minutes?

can you post a bigger version of the one where you explain the legs and knees?

whatyoumaydo

Jaku
May 7th, 2004, 01:47 AM
I will start crying now because iŽll miss how these amazing work is done in austin. :cry:

You blew me with the last bunch.
Great work Ron.






:mad: I wanna go to Austin!!!!!!!!!!! calm down:huh: caaaaaaalm down:huh: :cry:

warmblade
May 7th, 2004, 09:27 AM
What can I say! Wow This is exactly why I'm buying your videos, please let me know when they come out!

Thanks so much for posting....

M

Fipse
May 7th, 2004, 09:43 AM
Seeing you and Targete in Austin would have made my year ... Alas, no money and time for me. I always stand dmbfounded before your work that I really appreciate.

Hope you make it once to Europe ;)

Fipse

Elwell
May 7th, 2004, 09:54 AM
Ron, I'll second the request for a bigger version of the leg construction demo. It would be great to be able to read the notes.

bwkeough
May 7th, 2004, 06:30 PM
wow.

these pages are killing me. I don't know 1/10th of what I thought I knew 10 minutes ago.

thank you.

fredflickstone
May 8th, 2004, 10:44 PM
Thanks all. I will post up a bigger version of the leg demo on Monday. I have more images topost as well.

Ron

nofingers
May 9th, 2004, 10:16 PM
some of the best pencil work ive seen...awesome stuff

LightBrownboy
May 10th, 2004, 08:22 PM
Good stuff mister lem-on. See ya in class.

-patrick

fredflickstone
June 14th, 2004, 01:53 PM
http://www.rev-art.com/lemenimages/dualdemo.jpg got to find the shots I took of the other drawings...here is a recent demo, I spent two sittings on it to finish it off for composition demonstrations...40-45 minutes total, this was a cool set up even though it was a bit awkward...


Be back again soon.

Ron

jetpack42
June 14th, 2004, 05:39 PM
man, i can't wait to meet you and see how you work in austin.

if i had skills like this i'd run around in a cape with my initials on it.

AnarchyAo2
June 15th, 2004, 09:40 AM
damn, thats real nice. post somemore soon. BTW what videos is he selling? Anyone know how much they'll be and where I could find them?

chi-oh
June 18th, 2004, 10:17 AM
:eek:

your pencil work. . is. . unbelieveable.
you have one of the BEST pencil picture i have seen.
btw, what kind of pencil do you use? :D

drdarrow
June 18th, 2004, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by chi-oh
:eek: WHOLEY CRAP

I think you mean Holy Crap —which is still an odd phrase to defend, since it refers to Divine Crap— but at least it doesn't mean, as you have suggested, "Completely and Totaly Crap."

chi-oh
June 19th, 2004, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by drdarrow


I think you mean Holy Crap —which is still an odd phrase to defend, since it refers to Divine Crap— but at least it doesn't mean, as you have suggested, "Completely and Totaly Crap."


:( i am sorry you took it the wrong way. i ment that as a expression. something like "i cant believe someone could draw that out in pencil". please dont misunderstand, if i called this ""Completely and Totaly Crap" i would have to be blind.

behemot5
June 19th, 2004, 09:36 AM
looooove it...

Dave Seeley
September 16th, 2004, 08:11 PM
Youch Fred....your quality of work is matched only in the stagering quantity....glad I suddenly remembered this place.
Thanks

D

JoshuaTheJames
September 16th, 2004, 09:01 PM
Man O Man!!! Those are some insane Super Powers sir!

I would love a crit from you in my Figure Drawing thread.


Thanks,

-Joshua James

Egets
October 1st, 2004, 05:20 PM
okay these are just totally mindbugglingly nice every single one of them, you must have maaaaanyyyy years of practise behind and God I would love to visit your studio as well <3 :dur: even when the pose is somehow boring you add some shadow into it and make it look soooo delicious and wonderful you have sucha a talent grrrr !!!! ((hug)) thanks for sharing to us all :heart:

Noga sushi
October 1st, 2004, 09:56 PM
A true pleasure to view your work. I would love to see the process behind it.
well done!

steak-tron
October 2nd, 2004, 01:15 AM
whoa, solid gold!

Burning Eyes
October 3rd, 2004, 05:00 PM
OMG, this is the first time I really got to see your work Ron, AMAZING. You are so very talented, I can see now how much improvement I really need, and dont think the rest of my life is long enough! Definetly eye candy!