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December 1st, 2002, 06:16 PM
Oh.. how do I get to be the first.. again? Keyth? :D
Here 1 December (Romanian National Day :p)
It's a crap.. I know...
Well boys & Girls.. don't be shy... keep em coming! :chug:
December 1st, 2002, 07:34 PM
old series two weeks ago I never posted.
behold the crap... just thought I'd put my merriment to foul up december too
and some that are not daily self ports
last one wont upload, its my favorite, figures
does anyone have places where I can do easy uploads besides image magician?
December 1st, 2002, 08:32 PM
Bah beaten to first post :/
Oblio: Good work on the reflections in thouse eyes :)
Ironspy: Doesn't look like crap to me. Nice work
This one is a bit of a quicky as got home late and need to get to bed. Here it is and night night all.
December 1st, 2002, 11:20 PM
I total forgot it ways the first of december! I just reformated and install xp again (I was giveing me trouble) If I had know i would have done one instead of reformating!:mad:
Well tomorrows better be good then:rolleyes: :D
December 2nd, 2002, 12:10 AM
I am an uber-nerd, made up of the parts of lesser-nerds....
So I got a little excited about Thunderdome #4...
December 2nd, 2002, 12:23 AM
bloody eyes took me forever and thery'r still not quite right :/
it;s Oil Pastel with 35 pct opacity in Painter7
December 2nd, 2002, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by Agpaoa
I am an uber-nerd, made up of the parts of lesser-nerds....
Someone's been watching Triumph...I adore Triumph....
December 2nd, 2002, 02:15 AM
i made it back to school and whipped this up quick, it was kind of a struggle to get back to doin this after taking 5 days off!!! but i forced myself to do a quick one
fab: that one looks great, i think the eyes look just fine, nothing wrong with them. i've been struggling with each and everyone one i do to get my proportions and placement right...sometimes i have to do 3 or 4 before i can get it right!
lionel: it looks good, i like the expression, i'm tryin to ease myself into portraits with varied expressions
agpaoa: looks cool, i think for being metal though it should have some sharper edges and shadows.
ironspy: those look great, i really like the 3rd one down, great line work on it
oblio: like lionel said , the reflections are great. i didn't really notice until i read lionel's comment.....great work
December 2nd, 2002, 02:21 AM
! phenomenal 505 Posts in the Novemberthread !
Thats really great, lets try to get as much or more in the December one. ;)
And nice work in the new thread!
Oblio, nice colors!
Ironspy, all really great and have its own mood in it!
Only the nose in the last one is a bit too purple :D
Lionel, why you look so damn stupid this time? ;)
But as good as every time.
faB, really great one, I believe its you!
Here is my new one, tried a new pose and mimic, hope you like it as much as i did. :)
December 2nd, 2002, 02:32 AM
Triumph for President of the World, please...
ZippZopp- you're right about the metal rendering, but the thing is, my reference was an old scuffed-up T2 action figure (ie; a plastic DOLLY).
Trying to render proper chrome probably would have added an extra five hours to my SPOD time (which I try to keep to about an hour, at most).
Anyways, enough of my excuses...
I think I'll break out the tiny mirror again. It's a good way to get the weird close-up shots. I like your latest, Zippzopp, for that reason.
Duracel- Awesome light sourcing... you are clearly the living dead.
December 2nd, 2002, 04:11 AM
i've got one cooking. i had to take a mega break from the spod's. i felt as though i was getting stale....then thanksgiving hit. ugh!:p .
thanks for setting up the Dec thread Obie!!!
December 2nd, 2002, 06:33 AM
lionel: I like your last one, it seems to have more life to it than your others
December 2nd, 2002, 11:43 AM
alright you maggots:p . nice job folks. once again thanks to OB for....well being OB.:p been spending a little more time coming up with other drawings/concepts n'stuff for the ol'portfolio.
keep'em com'n folks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 2nd, 2002, 04:25 PM
and that's why I did a portrait with santa claus' cap today. :D
@Oblio - especially like the blue and green background very much. Thanks for your reply on what GBA is! Probably I'm really getting old... ;)
@Ironspy - I like the variety of your portraits. The umbrella watercolor one and the last one are my favourites.
@Lionel - whoa, another one with a friendly expression! :) The lower lip doesn't read too well, there's a too dark spot on the teeth in the left half and a tooth seems to get over the lower lip in the right half. Can you see what I mean?
@Agpaoa - :D :D :D
@faB - yes, your right eye is way too small
@Duracal - your upper head (Hinterkopf) seems too long. It looks like you felt really really sick. So I think you accomplished your mission, didn't you?
@keyth - good, as usual ;)
December 2nd, 2002, 08:41 PM
Agpaoa: Wow thunderdome stuf already. Shouldn't you wait till just before the deadline ;)
faB: Wow another really nice one
ZippZopp: Always is a but of a strugle getting back into it but every one you do makes it easier
Duracel: Stupid is as stupid does :)
Mr.Brian: You make it look so easy. I love the economy of your marks
keyth: Your back !! :) yey
jester: Your damm right about the lip. I painted it in a real hurry:). Love the folds in that cap. You look a little miserable in that one.
Finally reached portrat number 50 :). I though I would color this one as it is my 50th but will start doing some monocrome ones tommorow to do some serious work on my proportions.
December 2nd, 2002, 09:20 PM
well the day came and i went. now im stuck WRITING posts until who knows when. ah well...at least i can appreciate everyone else's work, and banter some about there's (agpaoa, render RENDER RENDER the chrome!)
great stuff from everyone, especially that first post from oblio.
everyone else, you all kick@$$ too. even you justin.
December 2nd, 2002, 11:19 PM
Hi im new here, iv been doing sps every few days for a couple months but didnt have a host before so couldnt upload them. I have a bit of a short attention span so I can usually only manage one half finnished pic every 2 days.
heres yestrdays, im reall happy with it, i spent longer on this one.
btw im mixed european/chinese and no thats not a wig i just got out of the shower :\
December 2nd, 2002, 11:58 PM
todays attempt.....i had a blast painting it, but the proportions are a bit off i think, some parts don't look like me enough, but i had a great time painting it.
duracel: i really like this most recent one. i love the expression and the way you painted it is fantastic! excellent job
mr brian; cool style...i like the way you've painted this one
keyth: good stuff! one of these days i'll do one of me with the headphones on!
jester: love the hat!! nice job. i really think there is something you did wonderfully with the eyes...i'm not sure what it is, but they look great
lionel: great portrait. i really like the color and rendering of the cheek area to the jaw line....really well done
cellbound: nice job...i like the color selection, and i think the hair looks pretty damn cool, nice job, looking forward to seeing more
December 3rd, 2002, 12:18 AM
Heres mine for today, its from the set of pics i took, It's quick because it was late, and lately find i kind of put them off till the last minute for some reason.
December 3rd, 2002, 01:16 AM
Lionel some SERIOUS improvement on that last one! value wise everything seems more tied together, with a clear light and dark side and a clear light source, watch the eyebrows you still draw those like an arc, the corners of the mouse usually extend slightly past the nostrils on each side, it may be a little small on this portrait, otherwise good job!
ZippZopp good light and strong shadows, for the likeness, try to paint the areas of light and shadow, similar to what you did, but do not draw the features and paint around them, instead paint the areas of different values, and let the feature appear from the volume that is described by the areas of light and shadow
Hexal if you can, use a mirror it will give you the freedom to look closely, turn your head, and watch the light and shadow move around the face as you turn your face, and watch the silhouteete of your face in the mirror at different angles.. it should help you understand the form and the values better than from a flat image.
jester nice rendering of the creases and volume of the hat, as for the face it tilts to the right, and there's a bulge on the forehead, for the 1st imagine a veritcal line while you draw it to help with that tendency we have to lean on one side while drawing, for the latter, you could draw a few skulls, or draw the negative shape to get the correct outline of the face, i.e. draw the empty space outside as if it was solid and the face was a 'hole' in it, the other side of the line if you will, that helps to get some shapes right sometimes and also it helps to get over the 'symbols' of the eye/mouth etc because the negative shape itself has no existence so the brain does not tell you hopw to draw iit and instead you rely purely on what you see.. that's the theory anyway :) I should use it so much more but always forget to!
something different.. I LOVE this, this is incredibly fun, I use the Scratchboard tool in Painter 7, but anything that will make a variable line weight will work
it doesnt look much like me these are 1st shots, maybe I should do like real inking, and do a layer below with pencil sketch first... hmm..
December 3rd, 2002, 04:35 AM
Jester you have just made my day. You were ahead of me.
Here is what I was planning to tell you.
As you know, there are several other art-sites doing SPOD’s.
But we can show them the real thing. We hang around CONCEPT ART – so why not to try and make our portraits in this spirit?
I was planning Robot SP’s but Jester surely made it better. So…
Let’s make Santa concepts using our faces as reference
What do you say?
And the we’ll think of another theme.
So… excuse my robot. Next.. Oblio will make a new Santa Concept.
PUT SOME IDEEAS ON IT!!!
I know it might seem hard for you but I dare to try – if I can so should you.
Remember – I’ve started drawing only 4 months ago.
I’m looking for Lionel’s concept, Retro’s, and other “traditionalists” to come and kick my butt!
December 3rd, 2002, 05:46 AM
Here is Sunday night's one, a Duracellian study using ballpoint pen, faB's inspiration
and monday nights one, I was soo tempted to put in bright orange highlights but then for blending purposes as faB suggested I avoided the contrasting colour.
comments later ...
December 3rd, 2002, 07:03 AM
Sorry I missed yesterday. I was way too stressed to do an SP, so I spent 4 hours last night sketching my dogs Spunky and Clyde. Probably the most relaxing drawing session I've done in a long time. I tried to carry over some of that relaxation to tonight's SP.
I also picked up Oil Painting Secrets from a Master as well and I'm going to practice David Leffel's concepts on the wacom until I get my oils this Christmas, then I'm going to drop the Wacom for awhile and just paint in oils. Anyone who doesn't have this book, this thing is an excellent read, a lot of great advice and approaches towards oils.
This one was a pain for me tonight though, I struggled with it for 2 hours, then the last hour I spent on it was very relaxing as I finally hit my groove. Overall a very satisfying night. Now I need to get back to animation homework :D Comments for everyone tomorrow night, great work everyone.
December 3rd, 2002, 07:43 AM
zip, thanks for the welcome :p
herees for the 3rd, a full size.. man i hate doing lips
December 3rd, 2002, 09:58 AM
@ FAB- I do use a mirroir, its just i got a hold of a digital camera and i took like six pictures and i was just drawing from thoses a bit.
December 3rd, 2002, 12:39 PM
miasmak both are cool, one can see you spent some time looking before drawing, in the first one each of the faces has some interesting shapes and details, in the second one it's quite an improvement over your previous sp imho, very nice actually, clear light and shadow, there's a slight impressionistic feel to it, eyes are good. well, for the color I think what I was pointing out in the last one was that there was some green along with two other main colors so the green didnt mix too well, here you use 2 colors basically it works better, your shadow colour is more blue than green, so in fact if you used orange it may have worked just as well, but the effect is different
December 3rd, 2002, 01:46 PM
I admire you guys for being able to pop out an sp every single day. I didn't touch a pen/pencil for weeks, so it's all back to learning it again.
December 3rd, 2002, 06:24 PM
Did some weight-lifting tonight (to keep myself in shape and prepare for the stuffing Xmas dinners ;) ) and thus my hand wasn't as steady as usual. Another Santa Claus cap drawing, this time in 3/4 view (which I did the first time tonight, quite difficult actually!). I know that the neck is too wide.
@Lionel - I wasn't satisfied with my rendering of the cap, that's probably why I looked a bit miserable. Didn't really feel bad, in fact I'm in quite a good mood currently, since I decided to start my own business and preparing all the stuff for it - it's good fun. So you're also heading for No. 50! Today's my 49th! :D And it seems that one still runs into the same old mistakes... check the width of your mouth, it always looks too small.
@Cellbound - welcome! It shows that you hate lips! :) Just keep trying!
@ZippZopp - very impressing lighting. This distracts from the off proportions effectively! :) And thanks for the praise, as I said to Lionel I wasn't satisfied with my drawing of the hat myself, but it seems that it's not as bad as I thought.
@Hexal - one can see that you are working on it. Just a tip: Try blind contour drawing for once - you'll be amazed at how much you'll see and draw when not constantly checking the result and being frustrated. There may be no likeness but you'll learn a lot from this exercise.
@faB - negative shapes... I remember that... comes from the same Betty Edwards book as the tip I just gave Hexal. Why is it always that one thinks of such stuff when suggesting it to others but constantly forgetting when drawing? Thanks for digging out that hidden knowledge in my brain. :) Great expression studies!
@Oblio - :D :D I didn't expect such a reaction from anybody! But it really is a great idea, it helps the permanent posters to try something new and the new ones to relax and go wild. I'll try that robot/cyborg approach soon! And I've got some more ideas in the attic...
@miasmak - good studies. I just learned myself that it's helpful to keep the spaces between the lines evenly spaced in crosshatching - I'll try that soon, how about you?
@Blackhawk - I really admire how you are working with the digital oils and am very sure that you'll love the real thing (my Mum does!). It's only a pity that this stuff dries only slowly and we'll have to wait ages until you scan it and post it. Oh, hang on a moment... I hope you have a digital camera!
@taff - great stuff! Some look like ancient sculptures.
December 3rd, 2002, 07:27 PM
I just could bring myself to do a self portrat this evening :/. *sigh* think I will go to bed early and get more energy tommorow.
December 3rd, 2002, 10:13 PM
December 3rd, 2002, 10:16 PM
December 3rd, 2002, 10:40 PM
thats great killing.people! awesome lighting....it looks fantastic!
December 4th, 2002, 12:08 AM
killing.people that is cool, great contrast, damn my portrait will look flat compared to yours
shame for proportions and still too shy with color, I feel I started to understand how to draw the eyes, thinking about the eyeball for the curvature of the eyelids instead of trying to get the same 'flat' arc, well let me know if they dont look all right, I can take some critique :)
December 4th, 2002, 01:03 AM
well i saw killing.people's portrait and wanted to try something similar. but as usual, i end up spending more time than i should and i went in a bit more depth to render some areas.
faB: looks good, i like the purple you use on the the darker side of the face, i'm still not bold enough to put various other colors into my portraits. i also think you need a bit more contrast in the eye region. its a lot rounder in that region than this one shows, maybe a stronger light source would help.
killing.people: again, nice one! great work, and i'm about to go shave
December 4th, 2002, 04:39 AM
no sp today only comments
@Oblio ,oh sprouter of challenging ideas, I do not have a christmas hat, perhaps I will look for a red sock. As for robots, mmm let me see ... (wanders of looking for a screwdriver to open PC)
@Blackhawk I love the loose yet accurate strokes on the eyes and forehead highlights. I think you may have lost some likeness on the eyes if I compare with your previous ones.
@Cellbound, don't think of the lips as lips, but rather more shapes and colours, then they are no different to any other part of the face. The lips combined with the eyes are convey so much emotional info about the portrait, it is always cool to see how the face comes to life when you put those in.
@taff, I like the headband one best especially the forehead
@Jester, the shadow on the neck seems flat. Thanks for the comments on mine, as far as the hatching is concerned on the one hand I agree that evenly spaced crosshatching will give a smoother shading, but on the otherhand, free-er crosshatching can give a lot of expression and can follow the contours of the volumes better.
@killing, your value perception is so acute. thanks for the details as well.
@faB, thanks for all the comments, the colour thing has me confused now, I need to think about it a bit more, my colour choices have been largely emotionally based up to now. As for your sp, I like the lilac on the shadow side as well and the fleshy pink on the palm of the hand. The mouth seems a bit small to me and the beige on the forehead and elsewhere makes the whole look a bit pasty, which may/may not be accurate or what you are looking for. The white of the shadow side eyeball seems too white and the space between the other eye and the nose bridge seems to big.
@ZippZopp, dramatic one, hey I know how you feel about the colour thing, I am doing values studies with few colours at the moment, it still feels as if I am working monochrome though. faB here is helping me along with some gems (thanks faB)
December 4th, 2002, 07:39 AM
Sorry, wasn't too enthusiastic tonight. I've been really bummed out and stressed lately. I hated the one I did last night, I screwed up the eyes, nose, and proportions so badly. GAH, I'm trying so hard to fix these problems and they keep popping up again and again and again, it's frustrating the hell out of me with my SP's. I did this one loose tonight, about 4 minutes.
Jester - I have a digital camera, but it's a piece a junk, along with my scanner. I don't really care though, I haven't spent a dime on any digital stuff in a good year, probably a lot of it has to do with me being broke as shit :D Nice SP bud, I'll try a santa hat one sometime before Christmas, promise.
Mia - Yeah, I bungled the eyes on it. The right one looks like it's scooted over too far, plus it's all... blah. It stinkith. I like your ink studies. Very nice work.
Great work everyone, I'm going to hit the sack, dead tired tonight. Have a great Wednesday.
December 4th, 2002, 10:08 AM
Over thanksgiving I was going everywhere all the time and I didn't have access to a mirror for any extended period of time. So I snuck away for a little while and did some quick sketches in the bathroom (they must have thought I had to crap for a really long time hahah). Here they are...a couple were on the plane too just from memory. I have been really getting into drawing with a pen lately. Bought myself one of those grumbacher fine artist pens...they work great.
http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/quick pen self portraits.jpg
http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Quick Pencil self portraits.jpg
Here are a couple other portraits...the first was a weird one I did right before I left to get onto the plane. I started another self portrait but didn't have enough time before I had to leave for Texas...I have no idea what I am doing with color but I was trying to make a skin tone...turned out weird. If anyone can give me some advice on where to go with it that would be awesome.
http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Painting 60 phantasm sp.jpg
http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Portrait work in progress.jpg
December 4th, 2002, 04:46 PM
I wanted to do a good one tonight. And a loose one. And first wanted to make a robot portrait. And - the result is that I messed it up. This is my 50th portrait but unfortunately not one to celebrate. Ok, never mind, tomorrow is another day.
@killing.people - now, I'm not the first one to say: good lighting!
@faB - eyes really came out quite nice. But someting in the alignment of your features isn't right. Can't put my finger on it, just a feeling.
@ZippZopp - not crits, good job.
@Blackhawk - this one would have looked better if you hadn't smeared the shadow area underneath the eye.
@MindCandyMan - what a load of work! In your last one (color) the position of the iris isn't convincing. I love the hollowed eye one (b/w). Those memory sketches look a lot like the oes you did about three to five weeks ago.
December 4th, 2002, 05:26 PM
NO NO NO...
I was so tiered last night i wasn't able to do more :(
Here - i'm no longer afraid of Scratchboard Rake! :D
I know it's just another mess... but i'll be back to some serious drawing soon (i hope)
How is everyone? Everything going ok?
Killing.Oblio - hey.. nice to see you again...
December 4th, 2002, 05:58 PM
thanks jester & miasmask
December 4th, 2002, 08:24 PM
taff: Thouse are great I love the shading on that eye
Oblio: Sorry about the lack of a santa hat :/
jester: Congradulations on reaching 50
MindCandyMan: I like thouse small ones.
Blackhawk: Frustration is a pain isn't it sometimes it is good to do a real throwaway picture and draw all you frustration into that
ZippZopp: watch out for the end of that nose. That one looks good though
killing.people: Nice to see you again. You have nice confident brush stokes as always. I am very jelious as all mine end up looking a litttle fuzzy.
faB: If you want to force yourself to be lesss shy with color try compying some Lucian freuds or doing yourself in his stlye. That will soure get rid of any fears
Here is a value the value study I said that I would do :)
December 4th, 2002, 11:05 PM
dont feel too inspired tonight, sorry for the crappy christmas hat I added it as an afterthought, top left and top right are soso and the rest is bad, but not so bad as the ones I erased in photoshop HA HA
hey Lionel keep it up, there's something different in that portrait from all your previous ones, the face looks a bit different, probably more you, I cant put my finger on it thought, its the porportions somewhere of the general shape of the head..
December 4th, 2002, 11:09 PM
what an honor it is to have you jealous of me. i enjoyed your portrait where you were grabbing your cheek, very well done. lots of your portraits look alot alike, i am sure for study purposes, it is baffeling how you can do it. they usually have the same colors and positions, and when you do something different i find it almost shocking. great work by the way, thank you for sharing so many self portraits.
you must know that i admire the classical artist klimt, mentor of egon schellie, who in turn, inspired peter chungs aeon flux's style. i love your second portrait posted. it has such an attractive style of line to me. it reminds me of the style used by some of my favorite masters and professionals. though it probably doesnt look much like you, this is my favorite of yours. i also liked the sketch you did of your face squinty and scrunched, very good study, i like the way you use contor to define form.
its good to see you get tired, your overall progress is astounding as well as inspirational. great work obilo, you desirve every bit of credit.
i think your loosening up was a good thing to do with your most recent study, your lines are becoming more and more confedent and chaotic, which in my opinion is a good thing. this portrait is an imporvement in my opinion, this one feels more alive than your ealier portrait studies.
i think you are losing alot of your set rudementry symbols you used to define certain forms of your face and have begun replacing them with newer strategies, i can see your growth, and it excites me as a student. seeing others progress makes me know that good study and hard work, dedication will pays off. sense i have been watching from the start, i am excited for your future portraits.
your improvement is amazing! in all brutal honesty i thought there was no hope, you are proof that i can learn to program. your dedication and struggling is energetic, i am amazed with your accomplishments so far. you have come so far, and have so far to continue. keep it up, your achievements have been staggering and very inspirational to me.
once you had gotten warmed up, bam! your portraits are becoming my favorite of the portraiters that post here. simply beautiful.
your portraits are amazing.
i have enjoyed all of your portraits so far, thanks.
your portraits are very refreshing and uniquely rendered, color, texture, and mood - you are a very talented artist.
your portraits have grabbed my attentions from the start, not only because there werent that many female portraiters from the start and to see a girls portrait makes you blink here or the fact that your style is very unique from any of the otherses use of color and movement but also, because you give a little teasing cleavage every now and again ... classier than myself, andrews, obilos, and others topless portraits. :p
your work is getting better and better, your portraits are begining to loosen up and feel less tense, youre portraits and wonderfully intersting.
December 5th, 2002, 12:10 AM
No glasses on this one hehe...doesn't look too much like me oh well.
Sorry I will respond tomorrow. Thanks for the kind words killing.people .
December 5th, 2002, 12:14 AM
another greyscale with a strong light source.....
faB; good ones..i like the little studies....the top right one is great! i have to do more small studies...but i always take way too long to get an accurate sketch down!
lionel: nice greyscale value study..they are pretty fun to do. it looks good
taff: good stuff, i like the first one there...interesting with they eye missing...good job
jester: good sketch, i think your left ear looks a little big though..other than that it looks good
mindcandyman: good to see ya back at it. the ones from memory are fantastic....excellent job with those. i thought they'd be hard to do, but surpisingly it wasn't terribly difficult...you did a great job
blackhawk: i like the red rust color...and thats awesome for only 4 minutes!! wish i could sketch that quick.
December 5th, 2002, 01:28 AM
sorry for the absence everyone, i was at home for 11 days (thanksgiving) and so of course i missed a ton. everyone did an awesome job rounding out the november thread, and starting this one too.
killing.people-awesome job on the grayscale one, you show the form well.
zippzopp-last one there has some proportional issues (try looking more closely at your nose). actually that appears to be the only thing. but the lighting is illustrated very well particulaly the area around the eyes.
FaB-hey whats up? i like the style you got going there. my favorite is actually the screwdriver one, made me laugh :p
blackhawk-yea im definitely feelin the stress too (finals time) nice for 4 minutes though, i shall try some quick ones as well. oh and i bought sanguine but its still not as nice as yours (too red not dark enough :mad: )
taff-i like the second one, it does have that schiele quality to it like Killing.people said. i also thought the first one you posted in the last batch bears a lot of resemblence to one of schiele's self-portraits
i did more traditional SP's while i was at home, but forgot to get pictures of them, so after this weekend i should have a ton of them all at once (about 20 i think) anyways here's the one from the night i left, last nights, and tonights:
did this one by closing one eye at a time, i feel like i havent slept in months
December 5th, 2002, 03:52 AM
:bow: - what a bunch of greatness....
How do you render like that?
What kind of (magic) pencil do you use?
Do ou smoodge or something?
Give me some feedback here 'cause i wanna follow your lead!
- jhibbs - welcome back!
December 5th, 2002, 06:54 AM
-jester good to see you in the festive spirit this early, great looking proportions on that crayon(?) one :)
-killing.people that is wicked how you can define form that well with those flat shades of grey (btw, im a big fan of your other self portraits!)
-Zipp you are exellent at seeing and rendering light. i need to learn to tighten up on my lighting but im too chicken to be too dynamic with it :p
-Lionel, that black and white one is just really really good
-jhibbs those are really cool, esp like the hair in the first one, really has volume and fantastic impression of light on it
December 5th, 2002, 07:49 AM
I found a new muse. I've been sketching my dogs for atleast 2-4 hours everynight. It's challenging and it's fun, since my dogs know when I'm sketching them so they start moving everywhere. It's forcing me to work faster a bit since they never hold anything for more than 2 minutes tops. Makes it interesting.
I did these tonight, about 10 minutes each, ignore the top left one though. I severely screwed up the proportions on it.
MindCandyMan - Good to see you back at it. Keep practicing your proportions and feature placement. There's still a lot of problem areas in your SP's concerning where features should be placed and size wise. Great job though, keep on growing artistically bud.
Jester - Blah, I didn't really care for the shading, I didn't put any heart into that one last night. It was an empty SP to put it bluntly. I felt nothing while doing it and I thought it came out really cold. Good looseness on this one, the dot in the middle of the nose is bugging me though :) Keep it up and congrats on the 50th. I'm up to 80th right now.
Oblio - lol, we all are going through our ruts right now. It must be the holiday season. My mind is on so many other things right now that my art seems to be lacking from it. After the New Years, we'll all be back to doing great art hopefully :D
Taff - I love the rendering on the eye on the top one. You pulled out the highlight and the reflection off the iris extremely well. Excellent work over the last couple of days.
Lionel - Excellent job on the rendering on this. The nose has much better form to it this time around, good to see you starting to pick up more in your SP's. It looks like your going semi-cross eyed though :D Beautiful job on the values though. Keep it up bud.
Fab - Great job on this recent bunch. My favorite was the Santa hat one rendering wise. It has a much stronger form to it than the others, especially around the chin.
Killing - Thanks a lot, I really appreciate the fact that you enjoy my portraits, it's flattering to say the least as I'm not too fond of my own work :D I really enjoyed your last one, it had a lot of raw energy in it in the values. You seem to get a lot of energy into all the work you do, very well done.
Zipp - Better form on this, but the ears and neck are both really flat and formless. You did an excellent job around the eyes though. The form is very well laid out in that area. Thanks on the last one. I used conte crayon on it, stuff is messy but it goes on smooth. Allows for a real quick sketch.
Jhibbs - Argh, I wish I saved the box that mine came in. I'd tell you the brand if I had it around here somewhere. I'll have to visit the art store tomorrow and see what brand it was again. Good job on this batch. I liked the colors on the second one, but everything is too blurry on it. The other two are pretty good man. Welcome back and I'll be looking forward to your traditional SP's.
Cellbound - I'm getting a red X here :(
Have a great Thursday everyone.
December 5th, 2002, 09:23 AM
wow, those sketches are great, especially that one in the bottom left corner. try to work a bit bigger, it really makes things easier. also we want to say all those doggie pictures!! :thumbsup:
December 5th, 2002, 11:24 AM
it's the southern hemisphere, and it is not cold where I am. I thought I'd do a red and green one for christmas but ended up with only red. The waterdrops probably make it a bit kitch but that was the only way to keep cool with no aircon. oh yes and old PJ Harvey was adding to my rather foul mood
thanks for the, well, uplifting comments, killing.boostme
the others will get a more personal comment later
I'm going to take a swim now.
December 5th, 2002, 11:55 AM
miasmak - I love this one. My Father-in-law lived in Zimbabwe (I think that's where) for a while. He has an awesome english accent. It must be cool to swim right now heheh...rock on.
blackhawk - I love these little sketches that you do. they really show off your skill. He quick question...what paper is that you are using. What kind of sketchbook is it? Andrew Jones uses the same paper I have noticed. You are right about my proportions...I try to look down at the mirror and stuff but I have trouble drawing the foreshortening. Thanks for the tip. I will keep working on it and pay more attention.
jhibbs - good to see you back...awesome work man. Keep em coming
Zipp - I love your sense of light. It is awesome in all your paintings. There is something wrong about the nose in all your paintings though for me. You may have a little bit of a larger nose but I think it may be accentuated a little too much. Try placing your nose a little higher and I think that will help some. Great work bro...watch the scribbles in the hair too...use paint strokes to create the values in your hair. Great work though man. I love your stuff.
fab - I love the sketches you do. You have a lot of control over the pen. Good stuff man.
Lionel - I really like this one! Tonight draw yourself in the most bizarre angle you can. I am curious to see how it turns out.
taff - I love your stuff as usual. Nice shading man!
Oblio - Keep up the good work bro. I am going to try that santa hat thing tonight.
Jester - Your stuff is getting so much better man...every drawing you make is a step forward. Keep up the good work.
killing.people - I love the last self portrait you did. I'm glad I have been able to inspire you. You could have been honest with me up front and told me you thought there was no hope. I wouldn't have listened to you hehe :D . But seriously though...I love your stuff...you have inspired me more than you know. Your stuff is raw...I love it. We will keep inspiring each other.
All others - Everyone is progressing so well...keep it up
December 5th, 2002, 01:17 PM
good lord!! I hate you miasmak its getting colder by the day overh ere :) great portrait!
thx for the kind words killing.people it helps the self-criticizing-bastard the I am :P
..woops gotta run to evening course..
December 5th, 2002, 06:38 PM
Just returned from my bi-weekly sauna evening and wanted to draw a portrait without my glasses again. I don't know why people are so afraid of portraits with glasses! I found that they help me immensely to measure proportions. Or did I just get too used to my face?
@Oblio - HohohOh! :D Quite funny, but I know you can do better! The progress one (that was really done with the rake tool?) is quite nice!
@taff - you're welcome :) That one with the omitted eye looks really interesting. Accident or intent?
@Lionel - your tonal study is really good though you seem to be rather cross-eyed on that one ;)
@faB - great fast studies, and funny, too! I dig the one with the hole in your brow!
@killing.people - thanks for your long comment. It is replies like these that encourage me to walk further on this road!
@ZippZopp - you are absolutely right on my ear being too large - realized that after scanning. I am always impressed by your lighting! I have tried to work with a strong lamp, too, to get interesting shadows, however mostly when I like the shadows' shapes I am already half blind and can't see anything to draw...
@jhibbs - nice to have you back! I especially like the one with the closed eyes - good idea!
@Cellbound - yep, festive mood, that's true. See, the last six to seven years I had almost no time to get into a festive mood until the very last moment because in Marketing this time of the year is absolutely peak time. Since I'm at home currently (preparing my own business) I for once have time to look forward to Xmas instead of dreading it (for not having time to shop and clean the flat and write cards and so on). Your portrait looks a bit unfinished but I like the chiaroscuro effect.
@Blackhawk - arrrgh this wonderful sketchbook again! I drop into every shop around trying to find anything similar - alas! in vain. ;) Love the top left one, the top right seems a bit flat/small.
@miasmak - great painting! One can see the likeness compared to your avatar! And getting warmer, grrr antipodes can be annoying grrr ;)
@MindCandyMan - thanks, you're constantly improving, too! :)
December 5th, 2002, 08:09 PM
Sorry for the lack of coments but I really need to go to bed. This one is a bit rushed for the same reason. You are all right about the crosseyed thing Doh! nn all
December 5th, 2002, 10:11 PM
i managed to keep busy whilst on cold internet turkey ::shiver:: its cold out there....its so warm to be back...sigh...too bad its temporary.
ok enough. heres the pics.
i think this was tues....been an odd week...musta got the days messed up
wednesdays..again...wrongly dated :|
ok so i F@#$ sleep all day and dont know what year it is!! sigh.... no more crack...no more crakc. i swear
actually. i dont do crack, just strung out on life...wooo
Lionel - your paintings are always very inspiration...great painting skills.
Jester - the eyes on your last one are soopoib...excellent improvement :) the hair is well dont too...generally great proportioning. i think the lips need a little more focus..less is more ;) ...great overall tho.
Blackhawk - nice sketches...i like the paper. just curious..what type of pen do you use? i always fluctuate and just grab whatever i can find.
Cellbound - beautiful surrealism...great style. cant wait to see more from you.
Jhibbs - stunning. your work is awesome....great style, awesome lighting....i love the choppy last one.
Zipp Zopp - nice liighting...good sp. one thing...the highlights on the hair are pretty shotty and look really quick-like...i usually put a thick-ish line for the highlight, and then add some detail highlights off the thick line. hehe..my recent sps are a horrible refrence tho as agpaoa mentioned they are all backlit.
Fab - cool comic style sp's.
Adios till next time all...lets see how far i make it withought crack...err..internet this time :bars:
December 6th, 2002, 12:30 AM
heres another greyscale.....less intense light though..i tried to do a bit more with the hair, hope it works
wazzo: thanks for the tip. yours look great, i like that grouping on the first one.. the only crit is that the neck looks long in each of them
lionel: nice job, i think you may need a stronger lightsource to bring out bigger range of tone
jester: i like this sketch, the ear looks fixed, but i think the eyes in this latest one are a bit big....keep it up
miasmak: i like the red!! no crits, it looks great
blackhawk: cool sketches...i love the way the shading is done with the parallel lines, they look great!
cellbound: i like the palette of color you used. the only crit is that the side of the face is too straight vertically, plus i think the jaw needs to curve around a bit higher up.
jhibbs: wonderful work, i espcially like the last one. good job
December 6th, 2002, 12:34 AM
is anyone else having this problem when accessing this page, a box keeps poppin up askin me if i want to make .NET passport something or other....some MSN community user or something.....anyone know what this is?
December 6th, 2002, 01:04 AM
hey ZippZopp...i dont notice any problems..but then again i am signed onto msn at the moment...do you have an msn account?
oh and btw, im 6'6" so yeah...i think the neck is proportional :p
December 6th, 2002, 01:28 AM
i don't have an MSN account...never have...don't know why this is coming up but its really annoying!!!
6'6'' is pretty damn tall!! i guess the proportions are spot on then.....good work!
December 6th, 2002, 01:30 AM
just a sketch (Painter pencil brush), I couldnt paint it today, it felt like coloring instead of painting :( my last attempts I was painting straight from scratch, without 'boundaries' on the canvas -- how do you guys work btw ? do you sketch before painting over ?
December 6th, 2002, 01:34 AM
looks good faB. everything looks right on. i definately have to have a sketch down before i start painting...i find it difficult to just go in and paint
December 6th, 2002, 02:23 AM
cellbound-thanks, i only liked the hair in that one :p
blackhawk-yea dunno where that blur came from, ive been messing with different brushes lately and have yet to find one i like. out of yours i like the center one the most, and the way the shoulder goes into the hairline, very nice.
jester-thanx, i enjoyed doing it, the closed eye is a very interesting form, i only wish it was a bit easier to see :p
wazzo-thanks alot, i feel like i dont really have a style right now but its nice to hear the encouragment. i like the last one, especially the simple treatment of the hair.
zippzopp-yea hair's workin pretty good and the proportions in general are lookin better too :D
fab-i like the sketch. i cant speak for everyone, but i know many (including myself) go straight in with paint, using a large brush and starting with general shapes and colors (block-in) and then working it into a more detailed image. you should check the step-by-step thread in this subforum, lots of good stuff there.
heres tonights, it was supposed to be in oil but there were people where i needed to work :mad: so yea. oil pastel brush again:
December 6th, 2002, 04:00 AM
it it done - i have finally arrived at my *official* spod #100 (though already 2 weeks old) :beer: , here we go:
#101 - #106
December 6th, 2002, 04:10 AM
hm...i feel like a stranger now posting here. hopefully i will get some more done. oil lift off again.
December 6th, 2002, 06:04 AM
Kind of lost with this one.
Retro - Awesome work on these. My two favorites are your first and last. They feel like they have so much expression to them. Congrats on the 100th. Oh, I will post up the dog studies soon, I gotta find the good ones though and scan them in. I have about 90% crap, 10% alright right now :D
Mia - Beautiful job with the warm colors. Watch out on the mouth area though, it's at a different angle to the rest of the face, but overall the whole thing is fantastic.
MindCandy - Thanks. It's just some brown recycled sketchbook pad that I bought. I tore off it's sticker label long ago, so I don't have a brand or anything to tell you. The thing is basically non-descript, just a brown book with brown paper :D It's a lot of fun to sketch in. I find myself using the pen in it a lot. I want to try Kevin Chen's sketch style though where he incorporates white highlights into his sketches. I have like 6 pages of sketch pages that he posted saved and I love looking at them. That's what motivated me to try the brown pad in the first place.
Wazzo - Great job with the sketches on this. The neck may be too long in a few of them, but overall, they are all great.
Jester - Wow, those eyes are huge. I kind of like them this way though, even though they look too large. Sorry to hear you can't find the pad. I think the shop I bought mine at has been out of them for a good month now. Everytime I show the thing to people they go out and buy one :D
Lionel - Watch the proportions, looks like the mouth is snugged up too close to the nose. Nice job on the values.
Zipp - Thanks. Yeah, I've been noticing the MSN box too. Kind of annoying. Nice job with this one, this is a big improvement. Nose form around the nostrils feels like it's too strong and mechanical though. Great work bud.
Fab - Nice sketch. I vary right now, I don't really have any process in my painting yet. Sometimes I just go straight for it, sometimes I use a line sketch, sometimes I quickly model in a mass for my head and work on that. It changes with the winds basically. Whenever I find a new process, I always try it so nothing is set for me.
Jhibbs - Thanks, that was completely unintended with the shoulder and hairline. I didn't even notice it until you pointed it out :D Great render of the eye on this one. Probably the best eye I've seen you do. Great job bud.
Daarken - You should never feel like a stranger here :D I love these oil lift-offs, I need to try this myself when I get my oils this Christmas. I'm seriously giddy waiting to get them. Great work.
Have a great Friday everyone.
December 6th, 2002, 10:29 AM
like always - unfinsihed.
December 7th, 2002, 06:42 AM
Wow, this is the slowest day I think I've ever seen in this forum since I've been here.
Killing.people - Absolutely beautiful man. The colors and the form are spot on. Finish this one man, it's coming out great. The mouth area is my favorite part, you really nailed it.
I need a haircut
December 7th, 2002, 02:13 PM
Here is a quick speed paint :) I still find it very hard to simplify and I am really not paying enough atention to were my brush strokes are going
December 7th, 2002, 02:17 PM
December 7th, 2002, 07:44 PM
i cant go back! its too late (?) ;)
awesome. its crazy how many you do.
December 7th, 2002, 08:38 PM
painter7 oil pastel brush,
December 7th, 2002, 10:19 PM
Painter 7, Grainy Variable Pencil I think
December 8th, 2002, 12:01 AM
what's up homeboys and homegirls:p
December 8th, 2002, 12:32 AM
todays... a lot quicker than usual!
kinda tired right now, i'll come back later to comment, but everyones stuff looks fantastic! great work
December 8th, 2002, 04:45 AM
man, it has been slowing down in here. i think i am back though! well....maybe, heh. must get food....
December 8th, 2002, 05:10 AM
thats just freakin creepy daarken. the crazy blood effect is rather revolting.
yeah it is slowing down hardcore....wish i was online steady.
post post post!!
December 8th, 2002, 01:15 PM
Haven't had time to sit and paint much more than speed paintings lately due to work, etc. and none of those are worth posting. Anyways, I had some time today and painted this based off this sketch (http://www.electricsynapse.com/etc/psp120802_sketch.jpg) that I did. Combination of Painter and Photoshop.
December 8th, 2002, 03:49 PM
i thought i'd post my ugly mug again here :D
of all the sp's i did last week, this was the only one with acceptable shading :) all the others started quite well at first, and then i rushed the shadows as usual. i also rushed these but they look fine...and i still cant draw noses
-killing.p !!! finish it, now!
retro: i really, really like the 100th one :) :chug:
December 8th, 2002, 08:49 PM
Just wasn't motivated today but just before I went to bed I took it into my head to do one so sorry about the rushedness of it. Here it is it took 45 mins.
December 8th, 2002, 10:51 PM
was listening to some gangta rap. felt more and more vain as i worked on it :\
December 9th, 2002, 02:13 AM
wow! this thread is moving quite slow! we gotta pick this thing back up!!
daarken: great portrait! great to see you back in here. i love the texture on it....great work
puckdewd: that looks pretty good, i really like the range of colors...nice job
coriat: i think the shading where the cheek starts to meet the nose needs to go a bit higher up onto the nose. other than that it looks good
lionel: i know how those days are, but at least you got one done! i think the emotion in the eyes was done well and relfects that mood a bit
nova: thats great..it has this nice fresh feeling to it, i like!
December 9th, 2002, 04:41 AM
What's wrong with you people?
I get off for few days and you all get slow on it?
I had a problem with my internet at home.
Yes.. it's a great excuse... anyway.. i'm in my worsd drawing period. Here are some mubo-jumbo - ugly stuff!
GREAT thank you to Blachawck and Daarken and ZipZop, Lionel, Fab and other who contribuited here.
December 9th, 2002, 04:54 AM
yesterday morning - just waked up after having a terrible dream
I dreamed that i wake up... late. There are many people in my house.. looking very silent and sad. I say hello to al.. and they reply silently and looking at me with much sorrow in theyr eyes.
I meet a girl i used to know in highschool and she's telling me - come on... they're starting.
I go into a room... all hose is white and all people look white...
and some men are lifting a little girls with yellow dress - she was looking dead.
And i say.. "God no.. tell me she's not dead" but she moves... she was just asleeped.. but behind her... lied my father DEAD.
I've managed to see the girl from hischool smiling and blending to the wall... all white and only the mouth was black.. a sudden very acute sound bloedmy ears off... and then the picture went white and blurry an d i couldn't fucking do a thing.
I woke up...
It wasnt the firs time i dream of my father's death but it was my first demonic dream ever. And the funny thing is that a women (frien of my father) died that verry morning ( i found out latter - but i've told noone about my dream)
This is made when i woke up - it was early - people were sleeping still...
I'm sorry it's a crappy drawing but.. matters not.
This is why we love SP's.
December 9th, 2002, 05:22 AM
December 9th, 2002, 09:36 AM
last week was really bad. One of the most stressful weeks in a long time. I won't bore you with the details.
I tried to sketch all weekend. Everything was turning out awful. I think the stress affected my brain. This was the only thing worth posting believe it or not.
http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Drawing 61 pencil sketch sp.jpg
All my finals are finished. No class this week. Lots of drawing.
December 9th, 2002, 12:42 PM
:beam: :coffee: :bars: :dead:
December 9th, 2002, 12:47 PM
AMEN IRONSPY!!! After this upcoming thursday I am done! Next semester I am taking drawing I and figure drawing I so that will be awesome. Will help me progress.
:mad: :hothead: :flamig: :machinegu :ak47: :grumble: :arcfreak: :barfing: :punch: :crosseyed :cry: :ranting: :doh: :firedevil :bars: :moon: :mumble: :realmad: :shocked: :rambo:
December 9th, 2002, 02:12 PM
i like your portrait.
December 9th, 2002, 03:50 PM
hello all, my excuse is we had a model 9-5 to draw sat and sun. Unfortunately he canceled on sunday. Well girl and ... I did a long tedious still life instead on sunday. Here is today's, not my best and I can't seem to keep away from the fuchia
now in no particular order:
welcome puckdewd and RichardSmith(forgive me if you aren't new, memory like a sieve) good to have you here. Mmmm RichardSmith a creature with 4 ears, made me giggle.
good to see daarken and coriat here again and even a guest appearance of keyth, interesting technique daarken. coriat it looks totally different to the previous ones, good improvement, watch the forehead it seems long.
nova: like your volumes and loose lines, the space between the eyes is to big
zippzopp: your value studies are really improving and you are loosening up too
lionel: everytime I try to look carefully at yours, but I am out of comments for you, except perhaps to do something really different, different tools colours or position. The one with the glasses seemed better then the others. Maybe go analog for a while
oblio: freekey dreem I will dare no interpretation ....
faB: controlled and accurate, the forehead seems too large
killing.freezeframe: thanks for the save steps and details, very interesting, I like it unfinished
December 9th, 2002, 06:13 PM
Blackhawk I liked the graphic look on the last one, and previous one too, except I felt the texture didnt add anything, black+white+red = yum yum
killing.people shame on you for not finishing it ha ha just the gray muddy up the face a little I think, nice colors
lionel nice reflection and shadow of the glasses, you are definitely looking methinks, but when you put down the paint, you rely too much on the 'magic' of it all, maybe ? it'd be interesting maybe for you to use line. well line is always interesting anyways, but line will not be forgiving especially on a sp, at the end of the day do what you like to do but dont get frustrated (cf your sijun post), try different techniques, one helps the other, I did a few paintings and now Im back to line & proportions but it helped me to see the pencil in a new light, I now enjoy it while before I thought pencil was just erasable dirty lines :) now I think more of values :) so if you feel stuck try different things
RicharSmith a little odd but nice painting
keyth seem pretty good proportion wise,though the shadowed side of the face lack a bit definition
daarken cool, the 'disfigured' side is less defined but somehow gets attention with the white in it maybe
puckdewd welcome! nice one overall, solid proportion compared to the sketch
coriat actually from 3/4 or side the nose shouldnt be too hard , I hate drawing nose from front in 'graphic novel' style, difficult to define the volume, from 3/4 you could draw the edge, it defines the shape of the nose as seen from the side
nova hello! I like it, how the 'hat' is empty space, the face is beautiful, I wish you elaborated the hair a little more , I think it would have completed it nicely
ZippZopp getting better with this one, still a hint of this 'graphic' highlight line you put on the border of the lip, the rest feels more solid than your previous portraits imho
oblio not really ugly but gets a little messy with the black lines, each line you draw is very important, drawing with just lines or solid black areas is quite hard imho, it is very unforgiving, if you do some shading studies (or value study) and then try line again you should see some serious improvement, worked for me, my few paintings I posted here helped me to think differently when I draw with lines or cross hatching I tend to see my pencil now more as a brush than a line tool :)
For your latest SP, I think you have in memory a set of 'features' and draw more from memory, I'm seeing the same problem actually the last few days I wanted to do a SP and felt I was doing more of the same, I think I'll try to 'refocus' and just paint what I see
daarken not the same face as previous ones proportion wise but I like some of it, the graphic touches, the undefined bottom part would probably be just as good all very dark, so the face comes out?
MindCandyMan keep it up, not bad at all, good job on eyes, the upper section of the nose is somewhat undefined, or a little flat
[b]miasmak[/b[ stay with the fuchsia then, nice colors :)you painted 'symbol' eyes on that one I think, hair is nice
well this was my excuse for no sp today, let me know if I talk too much I'll shut up :P
December 9th, 2002, 06:56 PM
Several attempts with a pen, no pre-drawing of the outer shape or proportions for exercise's sake.
So many good portraits since I last dropped by on Thursday. It's quite late now and I've got two important dates tomorrow - so I must apologize, no comments tonight.
December 9th, 2002, 07:18 PM
Richard Smith- that is the most frighteningly, tripped out bunny rabbit I've seen.He looks like he should've been "Alice in Wonderland".Really cool drawing.:eek:
December 9th, 2002, 07:27 PM
Yes.. i forgot to mention - last ones were without ANY reverence :D
This one is made with the mirror again but.. i've overlooked a lot of things - as I was saying.. i'm in a bad drawing time for now.
Thank you all for your feedback.. i'll... i'll be back! Astalavista baby! :eek: (doh... i must be in a lot of pain to talk that stupid) ;)
December 10th, 2002, 12:44 AM
too long since my last one(the zombie ;))
Too many new one, for answering all ... but evrey picture is well great, good improvement all over here, Everytime its a pleasure watching here! :)
So, after the my zombie one, i feel i have to paint a nice looking guy. ;)
Wizard of KOZ
December 10th, 2002, 01:46 AM
Man school had been kicking my ass...but at least my 3d is improving.
Great stuff everyone.
Here is a quicky 45 min
December 10th, 2002, 03:41 AM
i kinda like this one so far and didn't want to rush to finish it....its getting late where i am, so i need to get to bed, but i'll finish this up tomorrow
December 10th, 2002, 05:13 AM
ive been tripping all over proportion left and right, for and my monitor is at a whack resolution coz when i resized this pic..it looked a little 'elongated' horizontally.
anyway, this is from sunday, but i painted it today.
one more sp for the world of ps (published $#!T)
close up with proportion sketch...
C&C on this one is forcibly encouraged, as i did the lighting from my noggin ...and i dunno..curious what people think.
ZippZopp: yours are getting nice..great improvement...you are getting less and less mechanical....one thing...the lips look really defined on all yours, id presonally do less.
Wizard of KOZ: are you THE wizard of KOZ :gasps: ...not a bad sp, but the cheek line on the left side is too thick...hard to tell the volume of the toque (a beanie is a knit cap, americans)
Duracel: that is one fantasmical SP...great textures and colors...post more!
Oblio: good sketch....maybe you should vent your pre-terminator antics with a little thunderdome workout?? ;)
Jester: are you related to elton john?
Mia: good painting...whats wrong with fuschsia?? its uh...nice n stuff....your left eye is too big..other than that, excellent sp.
MindCandyMan: whats wrong with that one? its got some nice rendering on the eyes...great job.
Daarken...cool angle, wheres the blood? i miss the blood :(
Nova: i just have to say that is one sick SP.
hasta luego amigos
December 10th, 2002, 06:19 AM
Sorry I missed the last few days. Computer and internet connection were going on and off for acouple days, so I couldn't use the wacom or the internet, so I did acouple charcoal's instead. I still had a huge sketchpad laying around that I hadn't used yet, so I thought it would be the perfect candidate for these.
I want to apologize for the crappy pictures. I had to use my subpar digital to take the pictures because of the pad size. :(
Sorry I can't comment tonight. I need to get back to doing more still life studies until about 6 am :D I'm hooked and I don't want to stop. Great job everyone.
December 10th, 2002, 09:36 AM
This one looks a little weird I know. Mitch (or otherwise known as mcotie) told me to do something that he thought would help me. I really feel like it did. He told me to take my glasses off and to only paint the shapes of the shadows that I see. So I did that. I didn't worry about getting a likeness. Sorry for the alien eyes too hehehe. Basically Mitch told me to not paint any lines at all. To only work with the large masses of shadow so I did that. I honestly didn't even think it would turn out looking like a person. I am gonna try the same technique tonight except I am going to try to work on the likeness and proportions...peace.
http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/painting 63 sp value study.jpg
Blackhawk - I love these sketches. They look really awesome man. Keep up the good work. The eyes in the first might be a little off...looks like they are looking in different directions. Hey quick question...do you pencil sketch real quick before you use that charcoal or do you just go straight at it?
wazzo - I know you said your computer flattened it but I kind of like that flattened look to the self portrait. The colors and style are really good on this one. I like the background a lot too.
Zipp - it's looking good man. Definitely take the time to finish it up.
Wizard of KOZ - Yeah I know exactly what you mean. Sheesh. Finals week is crazy. Looking good man. Watch your propotions though. (I should talk...look at this self portrait haha) The eyes are a little big and the lips are too far down. I like how you defined the cheekbone structure though. Great job keep it up!
Duracel - Looks awesome man. WWII pilot or something. Looks cool.
Oblio - What are you talking about...in a bad drawing time? This one looks awesome. The eyes especially are captivating. Great work man. I don't know what you are talking about this looks great!
jester - Wow no predrawing at all huh...yikes that's hard. Good work man. You were able to keep close to your likeness even without a pre drawing...Good work man keep it up.
fab - Thanks yeah you are absolutely right about the shading on that last self portrait.
nova - That portrait is awesome.
coriat - You are improving a whole lot. Keep it up bud. You are doing awesome. The nose is a little funky on the last one you did. Keep up the good work.
Everyone is doing awesome keep up the good work all.
December 10th, 2002, 03:21 PM
i guess this is a give and take thing, so i gotta reply :)
zippy: i really like the attention to the eyes, it's so creepy how you made youself look kinda 'pasty' :) awesome
daarken: nice contrast between the mummy-skin and teddy bear eyes
mind: frickin, lucky duck you're done with finals. just finished my shot of caffiene to make up for the few measly hours of sleep i've been getting a night :\ nice portait.. why not try making the pencil strokes you added for shading go against the planes in your face like crosshatching.. you know what i mean? that gives every line its little purpose, not just to fill up the space
miasma: very make-uppy :) i like. it's got a silken quality to it and i think you captured a good likeness
jester: you're getting more and more confident.. really cool to see. ink lines are scary to put down it seems
obliong: i think it's your best one so far. go boy :)
duracel battery: that's superb! it's got a great old-style, and looks like it could've been painted in oils. nice atmosphere, colors, pose, mood, everything.
wizaaard: nice mood, i like how everything come into place. right now i'm looking at a sliver of it because i made another window in ie to reply to this post, and i can see only your left eye.. that's enough to speak for the whole portrait
zip: your values are getting better.. i like your rendering style a whole lot
wazzoo: nice planes.. those colors work together really well..somehow :)
blackhawk down: scary stuff.. your portraits are always so moody, awesome. get some fixative for the vine charcoal so that great portrait doesn't get ruined!
mindcandy: you're freakin me out.. looks like a porcelin mask or something
December 10th, 2002, 04:14 PM
I'm tired, the color version sucked, and I stretched this 10 percent horizontally for the proportions, one of those days..
Oblio - really nice
mindcandybar - good start, very good exercise, Id suggest to try and block in the head shape to keep an eye on the whole head proportions, and where the features are placed inside
Blakchawk I really liked those last two, esp the st one, dont know why
great work everyone
December 10th, 2002, 04:54 PM
Jester:- the pen ink style suits you, you are capable of restraining your brush strokes, mine always end up in a blurr of scribbles. The proporitons of the first one are the best imo
Oblio:- nice eye and hair, the neck looks a bit flat.
Duracel:- so detailed, good work, the shadow side of the face seems to come forward a bit, I think it is the sharp contrast with the headphone on that side. smack me with a wet fish if I know how to fix it.
Wizard:- the mouth and the nose are pointing in different directions and the viewer left eye is pointing in to much I like the blending and the confident line work
ZippZopp:- your half finished one is creepy, its like its actually a line work landscape with this huge easter island head that's alive, run for cover
wazzo:- man you remind me of that count in sesame street or some such. the eyes are also not pointing in the same direction. The lighting looks consistant albeit a bit dead.
blackhawk:- whoo love the volumes in the vine charcoal one, hopefully you won't loose to much of the crisper lines around the nose and eyelashes when you close the book. good mood in both pics (looks over her imaginary bifocals and says: you need a haircut youngman :D)
mind:- yeah mitch rocks, your pic is very 3D think I'll try it myself too, only I don't have glasses perhaps I must spread vaseline on the mirror that'll do the trick
nova:- all your fault, I looked at my previous sp again and thought I saw some lipstick on my forehead. that compared with a nother look at Richard's 4-eared rendition and all my comments went super silly
faB:- I was just going to say your nose and forehead is getting longer by the day, perhaps you should see a doctor when I read that you already streched it horizontally. Perhaps you should try wazzo's monitor. I love you line work.
December 10th, 2002, 06:24 PM
Have been busy setting up a forum the last couple of days. I think I did concetrate to much on creating smilies and categories, blocking my aspiration to create a selfportrait in the evening. I will try not to focus to much on one topic in the future. Well, since I stopped at Dec. 5th I did start from there again, today. ;)
Oblio, sorry not replying earlier. I use Faber Castel 9000 pencils, prefering grade 8B to 2H. I think the smoothness, which you have mentioned earlier comes from my type of paper and the way I shade my drawings. Up to date I have done every single selfportrait in an "Flexikraft" or "Canson" (can't remember)Sketchbook (22,8x30,5 cm, 105g per sheet). The sketchbook has quite soft paper and a small to medium grain-size. I don't have have special method when it comes to shading my portraits. Basically, all I do is holding the pencil at a very small angle to the paper using the wide side of the lead instead of the tip. I used to smudge but I don't do it anymore since it flattens out the grainyness and texture of my sketchbook-paper which can be a vital part in some drawings. I hope I could help ya a bit with that. Regards.
Thanks for all the kind comments on my last couple of portraits. I think I'll get back to draw some more portraits, since I still lack some to get back to the current date. :D
December 10th, 2002, 06:35 PM
It´s been long time since my last post here.You all have done awesome work!
I hope i can post more from now and get the comments train again...
Anyway, here is the picture...
I was boring at work and i started playing with painter classic. I foung the broad chisel tip tool so i started playing it again when i´ve arrived home this afternoon and this came out...
It´s a very funny tool... with cool effects, but i don´t know how it works yet.... :rolleyes:
December 10th, 2002, 06:39 PM
New attempt with markers, I think they are really tricky.
I constantly get messages that the server is too busy and that I should come back later - anybody else experiencing this?
@Jaku - nice pointillistic look
@taff - impressive, as always.
@miasmak - well, I try to think before I put down my pen but sometimes I fail and it goes on autopilot - this seems to be when I get too confident. I envy you in the way you handle color!
@faB - I tried this once, too, i.e. to adjust proportions in Photoshop... didn't come out too well. When it's mugged up it's mugged up.
@nova - thanks, I'm really enjoying myself when drawing now. I somehow managed to accept that sometimes my drawing will be much worse than my usual standard (still a loooooong way to go where I want to get at) but that it's another step on the ladder.
@MindCandyMan - whoa, good start on this one. Check the position of the pupils, they make you look into different directions :)
@Blackhawk - looks like you're working large scale now - is it 11x15"? Do the charcoal drawings survive being carried around in sketchbooks?
@wazzo - no relationship to Elton :D I tried to achieve an angular look with my third one, that's why I changed the shape of my glasses. I like how you worked out the shapes and planes in your face but the light blue outline is somehow distracting. The eyes are rather eye-symbols but not the real thing. I like the blue reflexes on your hair.
@ZippZopp - well, from your avatar I can see that your nose IS long and pointed BUT I still think you are overdoing it. Also I'm not sure for the shape of your upper lip. Shading and highlighting is very good.
@Wizard of KOZ - the left cheek looks a bit too low to me. I like the nose!
@Duracel - boah ej! :cool: Cool! Looks like an illustration from Oliver Twist or from the 1930s.
@Oblio - upper head / brow is a bit too low (when checking the eyes they are not half way between chin and top of your head). Are the lips meant to be slightly open? Looks good.
December 10th, 2002, 06:44 PM
sorry - it's quick but a bit better
SuperNova - oh.. thank you! i think i've had much better then that in my past. I love yours though - it's lovely to have you here. *group hug* ;) So.. whre's your next?
taff - damn - i have almost the same tools - i'll try not to use the tip next time. Why do you bother with another forum? ;) if you've done some cool icons.. show them! It would be cool!
Fab - very clean and nice. Some extreme expressions might go with that sketchy style. Looking forward the next (or the same painted ;))
mindcandy - yea - mitch rules - that techique is concrete (it rocks :D ) Ground solid... basic stuff... love it. NEXT!
blackhawck - YES! More...
 - you guys posted before i do ...
jester - thank you - it has much more pb's that that - simetry.. etc. And it doesn't look like me :D
Yours seems nice and clean. Too clean maybe - i see marker work and they look very rentered. But your's it's realy cool. Maybe a bit too cartoonish - try to modulate the weight of the line - make it thinner where is light and thicker in shadow.
Jaku - great one - your best maybe?
December 10th, 2002, 06:53 PM
oblio: i really love the eye in this one...its great, almost sinister looking! nice job
jester: great job with the makers....i've never tried them, but i can imagine how tricky they'd be. nice job
taff: as usual, great work! i love that first one, all the lines work realy well in it
faB; i know those days, it looks good though...try mixin it up a little bit, if you don't feel like painting, a good way to go in is with a bunch of sketchy lines for shading, its quick and looks cool
mindcandyman: looking good man....you've really come a long way, and i think this is the first step into some really great painted portraits!
blackhawk: looks fantastic, i love your style with charcaol. excellent job
I've gotten so many comments on the anatomy of my nose....i'm tellin you guys, its quite big....just to clear it up a bit i've posted an image. this latest portrait i'm working from a photo...its hard to hold a smile for a long time! anyway...check out that nose!!!!!!!!
December 10th, 2002, 08:37 PM
miasmak: I would like to use some real world materials but I don't have a scanner or a digital camera. I will be going to visit my parents over xmas so I may well try and do some oil painting and drawing there :). I really love oil paint it is by far my favorate thing to work in :).
faB: You are dead right and I do rely on the majic of paint far to much . I often use far to much trial and error in my painting but I am doing less so now :). I am always afraid to post my line drawings as I find drawing with a tablet so hard and they are really really bad but I guess it would be good for me to post some. I am still a little to afraid of failer :/. I don't think you should have streached that one so much. It look a little to streched horazontally for me. I suspect the eyes are a little small. Having read all that it sounds really negative wich wasn't my intention :). It looks good :).
jester: Pen is really hard to use and very nforgiving you have done yourself credit there. I have never tried markers but they always looked very dificult.
Oblio: Your last few have been a lot better. I really like you eyes :).
Duracel: That one is really good.
ZippZopp: You shading has be gettinga lot smother of late and looks much better :). I still think you exagerate you nose a little.
wazzo: That sp does look a little streched :/.
Wizard of KOZ: That hat looks really good :).
Blackhawk: I really like your tradition stuff I hope you carry on working at it
MindCandyMan: As far a painting without your glasses it can help you to simplify :) Guess it has the same effect as squinting. I never paint with my glases but then my eyesite isn't that bad :).
taff: Thouse look good. I like the simple lines on the first one.
Jaku: Looks like you had fun with thouse textured brushes :)
Well sorry I missed one but I just couldn't get myslef to do one last night. I relaxed a bit tonight and it all came much easier :). Sorry to all the people I didn't reply to but I have to go to bed so I did as many people as I had time for.
December 10th, 2002, 11:54 PM
pretend they're good
so I make a big sketch dump every few weeks, and here is another installment. I think I will contribute to the discussion. As for critique, this is my first, here goes:
lionel: try doing a background, or at least break out of the thing you do every day but with a different mouth. Drop local color, something! Lurkers like me aren't supposed to be bored. Look at someone like bengal who does SO much with the negative space of the background to push the face forward. Oh, and draw some shoulders, we all know you're not a severed head... or are you.
ZippZopp: I believe you
Oblio: I always enjoy your sense of line. Perhaps if I grow my hair like that (which I'm working on) I wont have to do both eyes.
Jester: hooray for gutsy pen sketches. Watch out for the proportions of how far the back of your head goes back, I make the same mistake.
Jaku: mmm texture
taff: your sense of line is good, try varying its speed, strength and width perhaps? is there a conceptual reason you choose to leave the eyes blank?
miasmak: I like how you throw local color completely out the door. Just watch proportions, your face is kinda... crooked in your portraits often.
faB: sleep is good, but so is your portrait.
MindCandyMan: I do the same, its always a good way to force you to work from general to fine, without focussing on a certain aspect of a painting and overworking it. I've watched your progress for a while (I swear I'm not a stalker, just a lurker who talks sometimes... sometimes) and mad props to you.
Blackhawk: nice work with compressed, its fun when you can get it right, because usually you only have one shot. Ever try it with isopropyl alcohol? It makes a great velvet black.
wazzo: Great style of painting. Fix that monitor though... I can't imagine how frustrating that is, because it makes me want to tear my hair out from over here.
Wizard of KOZ: try a contrast of that color (terra cotta) combined with black lines, it does well.
Duracel: great warm colors, makes a nice... unzombie-like feeling. Nice hat.
If I missed anyone who wanted to be mentioned... oops. If I was too harsh, its only because I love you... in a completely non-objective way. :chug:
I need painter reel bad.
-spying on iron
December 11th, 2002, 12:22 AM
I want to give a hearty THANK YOU to everyone who constantly challenges me and encourages me to move forward. Each and every one of you have inspired and helped me (even if you didn't know that you did). I love conceptart.org. It's great! Ok...enough sappy stuff. But seriously thanks guys.
Ok I have to go to bed...but here is my self portrait. Oblio I incorporated Santa elements for you like you asked. I have absolutely no idea what I am doing with color or painting in general so any help and criticism would be received with open arms. Thanks guys.
HO HO HO
http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/painting 64 old saint nick sp.jpg
December 11th, 2002, 01:42 AM
hey everyone, back from another weekend. boy do you miss alot if you miss even one day in this thread. lots of great stuff
im really tired so just a quick one from last night (tonights was oil)
keyth, glad to see youre still around
ironspy-hey whats up nice stuff, second is my favorite, is that ink or charcoal
everyone please check out my traditional SP's in the thread in this forum, finally got all the images up, and its ALOT
scratchboard rake tool:
December 11th, 2002, 01:46 AM
ZippZopp that's a really nice 3D model of yourself you posted. Even in your models, the nose just seems too big.
just kidding. you left yourself open for that one. I too have giant nose, I couldn't resist.
December 11th, 2002, 03:38 AM
woo hoo, we should start a big-nose comradeship fellows....i'll submit a pic for status verification.
heres some quick crap...sorry no time really on comments today :|
happy spod plodding everyone :D
December 11th, 2002, 03:54 AM
rock on Wazzo!! Thats what i'm talking about....nothing wrong with a big nose, adds character! hahaahahahaa
heres the final version, i'm happy with it!
mindcandyman: getting into the holiday spirit! nice work, i like the way the blue eyes stand out amongs't the warm reds and yellows
ironspy: great portraits, i love the first 2. very nice emotions and nicely rendered!
lionel: nice job, i love the expression...i still think you need a variation in the background.....but good job, keep it up
December 11th, 2002, 04:01 AM
hmm. i'm trying to paint lately. for me it's like a parallel universe where everything is upside down :D
@blackhawk: i really like the last couple
@zippzopp: man your nose is *really* outstanding ;) my girlfriend has about the same size ;)
@jaku: wow, looks very smooth. great
@keyth: we want more selfportraits!!! come on :wazzup:
December 11th, 2002, 04:07 AM
i don't know if this is happening to your country or not but here... woman think that the longer a man's nose is the bigger the... :rolleyes: ... i have a small nose but i've told mine that size doesn't matter :D
So.. if you ever plan a trip.. visit my country - a lot of beautifull girls here and... well... you have BIG nose!
December 11th, 2002, 07:09 AM
I was itching to try another digital painting SP. I did a step-by-step for this one which I'll post tomorrow. I had a lot of trouble with the eyes, but I think I screwed up on the whole form anyways. Blah, I'll let you guys and gals crit, I see enough wrong with it already, what do you see?
I did this with the Sargent brush while listening to my Miles Davis A kind of Blue CD. Really made me depressed listening to it, it brought back memories from acouple years ago that I really enjoyed, that I haven't experienced in a long time. Kind of made my heart sink.
Enough of my emotional garbage, here is the pic...
MindCandy - Thanks. Yeah, there's proportional problems in both. I go straight in with charcoal. I can usually do a line sketch with the charcoal, I have all of my charcoal sticks and pencils shaved and pointed so I can do lines and then use the side to lay down tones. Vine charcoal I enjoy because it almost feels like I'm painting with charcoal. It has a very fun quality to it.
Another good thing to keep in mind when doing values is to break your face up into planes and lay a single value for each individual plane. It helps to keep your values and form cohesive. I may be explaining it wrong though :( Good job though bud, keep working at it.
Nova - Trust me, I have plenty of fixative, I never close the book until I get fixative on my charcoal stuff. I hate having it smear on the vine, especially since I had some hard edges that were basically produced from just some loose charcoal packing up on the end of the stroke, so even a breeze would have blown it off. :D I really enjoyed your last SP, you did a beautiful job with it.
Fab - Thanks for your comments on the last couple of days, I appreciate them. Yeah, the second one turned out alright, only part I liked on it was the nose, I hodged the form together on the rest of it.
Good linework on this, but the far eye is in too close. It needs to be moved out a bit.
Miamask - lol, yeah, I do need a haircut. I'm not used to having hair. I think it's been 8 years since I last grew it out. I want the Andrew Jones hairdo though :D I need something wild to draw into my portraits.
Taff - Those eyes on the second one are very freeky :) Great work man, eye placement looks wonky in the first one though.
Jaku - Welcome back man, you did a great job on this one, it has a nice texture to it.
Jester - It's larger than 11x15, I can't remember the size, the sketchbook is in the back somewhere. I'll have to get the size to you tomorrow, it's pretty large though, it's closer to 18x24. It can survive in the sketchbook, need to use fixatif to seal it down though so it doesn't smudge.
Nice marker rendering, take Oblio's advice and vary the line width though, it should add some needed dimensionality to the piece. Great work bud.
Oblio - Great job on this man, the lip, upper lip area is really strong. I will be doing more charcoal stuff this weekend, I've been going from conte to pen to pencil to charcoal and back again for the past week on all of my traditional studies.
ZippZopp - Thanks man :) This newest one came out great. Your really beginning to grasp the form and proportions, keep pushing it bud. Your improving.
Lionel - Great work, the lips seem a bit weird in how they are moving, but it's hard to crit on that a bit :D I'd like to see you include some shoulder in your SP's, it really helps the composition and the mood of the pose.
Ironspy - I'll have to try that with alcohol, thanks for the offering that up. Second and last are my favorites. Really nice work. Keep cranking them out.
Jhibbs - I really liked your first and second traditional SP's, your first foremost. It has a lot of expression to the gesture.
Wazzo - Great colors on these, especially the second one, the eye shape is a bit weird though. The second one almost has an alien quality to it :D
Retro - I know what you mean about the paint, at first it was very weird for me. I found that a lot of techniques in painting carried over into my traditional dry media work though, it's kind of exciting to see how many new techniques I'm learning from it. Great job on this too, I'll have those studies from my dogs up in a few days, I've been too lazy to scan them in :D
Have a great Wednesday everyone.
December 11th, 2002, 11:41 AM
Oblio you've given hope to all those who have a big nose.
December 11th, 2002, 04:44 PM
wow all the ones on this page just blew me away!! i haven't done a sp in like 2 weeks for various reasons but i'd like to comment:
mindcandyman: your first test (done in black and white) - you did an awesome job! i know you weren't going for likeness so im not going to say anything about proportions, etc. but you really caught a depth and shape in this that your previous portraits didn't have. and you carried into your next sp wonderfully! your santa one is one of the best you've done! (that i've seen)...you're experimenting with color - which is always exciting - and by not using outlines it's a lot more believable of a portrait. now you can focus on other things like the eyes: in the santa portrait they really look like stickers. hehe. they look flat and not rounded at all. try adding a shadow to the top - it's created by your eyelid - and in the corners where they round in... otherwise you're doing awesome...your progress is inspiring!
taff - these are very interesting: especially the 2nd one... i wonder if he is missing an eye because he's blind or you just didn't finish the drawing...either way it made me wonder which is always a good thing..
jaku - this does seem to be an interesting tool...i like how your hair turned out
jester - i think markers are tricky too...but i think you should experiment more! your sp's sort of look the same a lot and i'd love to see you work more with the backgrounds and also just filling in more of your portraits with shading (and perhaps color?)...it's ok if you mess up! you'll learn something from it!
oblio - i think you are amazing. i always look at your portraits a little longer... it's amazing to me that you haven't drawn your whole life! your portraits always capture some strong emotion .. thank you for sharing the things you share!
lionel: i hate to say this because i think you're really good but i always zip right by your portraits because they're all the same!! i'd love for you to put them all on one image and post them next to each other...i think it would be neat to see them all...but i'm dying for you to try something different!! everytime i see your name i hope to see you try some new pose ... i want to know where you're sitting! what are you wearing? how do you feel? i think with your style you could make very interesting spods...
ironspy: the first four are very nice... i especially like the simplicity (sp?) in the shirt on the first one and you've just got some nice lines in these and then you seem to have lost that on the last 3 but at the same time those 3 look like you were just expressing your emotions more than focusing on proportions/lines...
jhibbs: i haven't gotten to look at your traditionals but this one is quite a change for you...i think the nose and mouth are really nice...i like how with very few lines you're able to make my eyes complete the shapes
wazzo: are you changing the size of these? like some seem compress horizontally and some vertically... it's weird... i like your portraits but im not sure why...it's probably the color...i think your eyes are very unrealistic but it all seems to fit with your style which is fun to look at...
zippzopp: i like this one the best out of all your spods i've seen...it's not as flat as some of the others and the way you've blende the shades is much better
retro: i always love seeing your portraits too...cardboard is fun to paint on! the lines that cut through your eyes are interesting...
blackhawk: this one is so soft! it makes me feel all homey and comfy ...i didn't notice anything weird about the eyes until i reread your thread.heh.. but i love the pink you put in the face..it really adds to the mood
December 11th, 2002, 07:51 PM
Mmmmmmesssed this up. Grrr. Tried a smile and got distracted, especially proportionwise.
@Oblio - I never know when to stop to achieve this sort of half finished look. Looks good to me, except for the ridge of the nose perhaps. BTW - the cartoonish look was what I was looking for. I try to reduce my drawings from time to time to practise for drawing the comics I have in mind. :) That nose-saying is known here, too... :D
@ZippZopp - I CAN'T BELIEVE IT! It's true! OMG. ;) The final version came out nicely. :thumbsup:
@Lionel - huh, new expression. Looks quite painful to hold. Just as ilex I'm dying to see a different pose and/or technique - but I know myself what's it like when you are not satisfied with what you've done and want to try it again. And again. And again...
@Ironspy - the first two are very good. The next two (pen and ink) look a bit dis-proportioned. The last three are... interesting. You are right with pointing me to proportions!
@MindCandyMan - HOHoHOHOooo! :D That beard looks very artificial - I guess that this is what you were aiming at. I agree with ilex, your eyes are the weak points in this one, the rendering of the face/skin is really good!
@jhibbs - reminds me of corn circles... like your portrait was ploughed into soil and seen from space. Guess what! I can even recognise you. :)
@wazzo - the first one is quite tilted... but the second is great. Parts of it remind me of the look of "Toy Story".
@retro - cool, I really dig how you integrated the cardboard folds!
@Blackhawk - wow, I'm looking forward to your step by step - this looks really fantastic!!! Almost like done with real oil paint. :clapping2 Do you use that massive big sketchbook only at home or do you carry it around with you? It must have cost a fortune.
@ilex - thanks for your comments. Yes, you're right on experimenting more. I vary techniques and views but mostly ignored backgrounds. Good suggestion! Only problem right now... time. :) But I'll go wild in two weeks when I spend Xmas and New Year's Eve with the whole family (mine and my partner's including granddad) in Sweden. :clown:
December 11th, 2002, 08:19 PM
I felt asleep several times doing this. I HAVE to stop now (2:12 AM) since i'll wake at 7 in the mornig and a verry full day is comming.
Thank ou for your comments. I'll reply while at work tomorrow.
I've tried Taff technique :confused: :zzz: :drool: umm.. bye.. or smth... :zzz:
December 11th, 2002, 08:20 PM
Sorry don't have time for reply as am exausted. I know My stuff isn't much fun to look at but it is kinda of intentional doing similar stuff each time as I am trying do do this until I can get it right :). You are all quite right I really need to start branching out who knows sometime soon ;). Watch this space.
Am in a rush so here is a quick 10 min sketch.
December 12th, 2002, 01:47 AM
last nights was a long one, so i wanted to go much quicker and much looser tonight
lionel: nice sketch. i know its tough to branch out, i've still not been able to drop complimentary colors into my paintings yet! gotta get to doin that. keep at it !
oblio: nice job...once again i love that eye in there....very very cool looking
jester: hahahhaa, i told ya...its a big big nose! i think your latest got a little scrunched in...could be a bit longer. i think the eyes need a highlight too
blackhawk: excellent portrait, i think this is one of the best i've seen from you. i love the paint strokes in there, and the grey around the chin area is really nice....well done!
retro: i love the grey and orange together, really cool looking.
December 12th, 2002, 02:28 AM
hey word up everyone, glad you liked my last one, it took me like five minutes :p i was REALLY tied. but yea anyway,
oblio-really like that one, theres a strong sense of light and form.
jester-try to watch your corss-hatching, making the layers of lines go perpendicular creates a mesh-like texture that can bu useful but im not sure thats what you were going for here.
i put up the other half of my traditional stuff, and after looking at sparth's stuff i decided to give photoshop another shot. not quite pleased but eh, its been almost two months using only painter. for anyone wondering, this is number 95:
December 12th, 2002, 03:52 AM
umm, just wanted to say the lines on the cardboard weren't intentional, in fact i hate them :D
December 12th, 2002, 04:11 AM
retro - don't hate the poor little things, this way it looks like it wasn't created in photoshop :)
um, sometimes you just want to be real
December 12th, 2002, 06:51 AM
Wanted to get looser tonight, not really sure how it turned out :crosseyed
Ilex - Thanks, never knew it felt comfy. My face seems to scare people more than make them feel comfortable :D
Jester - Thanks. Your head looks squashed on this one. Be careful of values on the cheeks as well, it vaguely looks like your pressing your face against plate glass :D Keep them coming bud.
That large sketchpad is definitely nothing I carry around, it's really unwieldly. I'm going to use it more for home charcoal studies though. I love the strathmore paper. For sketching on the go, which I don't do enough of, I use a smaller hardbound sketchbook, but the damn pages on it tear out too easily though.
Oblio - Great job, now let's see you bring both of those eyes into the piece. That's usually when my stuff falls apart when I incorporate both eyes. It's my fatal flaw right now with my SP's.
Lionel - There you go, It's a start bud :D Branching out can sometimes help you solve problems with your main SP style. I know throwing in variety has really helped me deal with unique problems and has made my SP's challenging and enjoyable. You never know, you might like it.
ZippZopp - Thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed it. I liked this one, the stroke pattern is very active. Keep them coming Zipp.
Jhibbs - Nice job on your traditional portraits. This one turned out great too. The nose bridge looks to me like it's off though.
Retro - Great SP, going for the extreme under shot now :D Like I said in the PM, I like the cardboard, it was an interesting choice for your medium selection.
Nova - Great job, the eyes may have wandered a bit though from the rest of the face, excellent job nonetheless though. I like it.
Have a great Thursday everyone.
December 12th, 2002, 08:00 AM
Long time no see.
Sorry i haven't posted any spod's in awhile. I was on painkillers for a while after i got in a car accident and they just totally had me throwed. So i got off track a bit.. Here's my first sp in awhile:
BAH! I'm not even sure this should've been posted. Admittidly the worst piece of shit i've done in awhile.
December 12th, 2002, 09:25 AM
Ok thanks to everyone who commented on my previous self portrait. And yes I did put stickers on it for eyes...hehehe. Seriously though...can my eyes be ANY more 2D in that self portrait. Sheesh. Mitch called me on it too...like right after I posted it hehe. So he told me to draw close ups of my eye for a while to get the hang of it. So here is a close up of my eye. This was hard.
December 12th, 2002, 11:09 AM
nova and the jhibbs nice emotion; sober yeah sober.
retro00; wish it had more...lines or anything really, just more.
pencils on mayfair 11 x 14
December 12th, 2002, 11:32 AM
nothing to say but - K I C W - shifted love
December 12th, 2002, 11:57 AM
Hermchen - I really like how you left the eyes real clear on this portrait. Looks awesome. Keep up the good work man.
funk - Wow this is trully awesome and unique. I love it!
Grooveholmes - Wow man sorry about the accident. Your worst piece is better than my best!
Blackhawk - I really like this one. Your stuff is so awesome man. It's really been an inspiration to me. Love the sargent brush one.
nova - The last two portraits you have done are awesome. I love the mood you created with each of them. Keep posting your stuff is awesome.
retro - Whoa...cool...sketching on cardboard. Looks great!
jhibbs - wow number 95...sheesh. That's awesome man. Keep it up.
Zipp - That's awesome...your face looks like you just saw a kitten get run over or something hehe. Looks great keep it up.
lionel - Nice...switching to sketch mode. I like it. Do more sketches.
oblio - looks totally awesome man. Great work
jester - Thanks for the encouragement man. Your stuff is looking more and more like your avatar. I think the head structure is where your last one went wrong. The skull seems a big too small. Great work.
Ironspy - Thanks for the encouragement on my progress...I have been getting really frustrated lately cause I feel like my stuff has been turning out really crappy. I visit your site often. My favorite painting you have done is the snail that is shooting the artillery plasma ball. That is awesome. Your self portraits are awesome!
Jaku - that last self portrait looks awesome! Nice and stylistic.
Everyone else's is great!!!!!!! Sorry boss is coming soon.
December 12th, 2002, 01:06 PM
Thought I could do a closeup of my right eye...
funK hell, I hope U find some Antiodote or your face will look like rotten applepie someday ... no, thats cool man. It really cares about the overalltopic of this board -> concept art... more of it plz
MindCandyMan Thank U for the eye :chug:
Grooveholmes Sorry to hear about the accident. But you seem to be ok again, otherwise you couldn't post your "shit" ;)
Blackhawk Your last two SPs are dope! D O P E !!! Really, I mean it
Nova Love da colors! Might be there's a light missing at our right side of the nose?
EVERYONE ELSE sorry I didn't comment yours, doesn't mean I don't like. Total opposite! Keep 'em comin'!!! :cool:
December 12th, 2002, 04:20 PM
hermchen: wonderful portrait...it has a wonderful glow and energy to it. very nicely done
funk: TRIPPY!!! thats a great portrait....great job
Mindcandyman: nice job on the eye. it has great form and lighting. definatly doens't feel flat at all....great job with it!
grooveholmes: good to see you back and i hope everything is goin ok for ya!
blackhawk: i love it! great portrait. nice and loose, i like the hat too..looks great
nova: looking good, i think the right eye ( your left one) looks a little bigger than the other.
retro: i love your line work, its awesome. i really don't mind the lines from the cardboard, looks kinda cool
jhibbs: 95...wow!!! looks great, i love the lighting and the effect of the blue against the face.
December 12th, 2002, 07:00 PM
ZippZopp: I guess inventiveness is something that needs practice as much as anything else :)
jhibbs: 95 damm that is very impressive well done look ford to 100
retro002: I love that stlye of self portrat. I said it before and I will say it againg that style would be perfect as an etching :).
nova: That one is beautiful.
Blackhawk: I am looking foward to doing some oil painting when I go home for xmas will be a nice change.
Grooveholmes: Welcome back sorry to hear of your acident
Hermchen: Love the colors on that purple one and that eye rocks
MindCandyMan: Another sketch for you. I like the eye but be careful at looking at anything in to much detail or your will never be able to simpleify.
funK: Damm looks like a lot of work went into that. I got dizzy by staring at it ;)
Well here is something I am really bad at :/. In the spirt of practice I tried to use the painter pencil tool wich really is one of my nemises in that program. I havent really got any experance with drawing with pen and I am not sure how to make marks any advice gratefull received :).
December 12th, 2002, 07:50 PM
No portrait today, went Xmas-shopping, had to iron a huge load of clothes (at least K2 size pile now reduced to Matterhorn ;) ) and got caught up drawing another Ent (I've got a ticket for the pre-show of The Two Towers for Tuesday night!) which I think I'll post tomorrow at another place. But I want to give a few comments on yours.
@Oblio - great stuff! Very intensive stare.
@Lionel - you've made my day ;) Keep trying different tools and media - I find it very inspiring myself!
@ZippZopp - funny one, strange colors! Yeah, my last one was crunched. There actually wasn't a highlight to be seen in my eyes and I wondered whether I should make them up but decided against it.
@jhibbs - you're right on the cross-hatching- the mesh-like effect wasn't what I was aiming at, it was just lazy shading :( Congrats on No. 95 - I hope I'll see your 100th before I'm off to Sweden by the end of next week. I kept staring at your right eye because I thought I might recognize who or what was reflected there... almost felt like that scene in Blade Runner ... ;)
@retro - don't hate those folds and lines - they make up for really lively effects. Good one this, too!
@nova- wow, I love this. The atmosphere is very sad and tranquil (probably because of the blues you used). Is it digital or true watercolor?
@Blackhawk - the lower half of your face (from cheeks pointing to chin) looks a bit like you lost much weight so I guess that by getting loose you didn't pay attention to your proportions. Didn't realize this "pressed to a glass plate" effect before you mentioned it - but it's true!
@Grooveholmes - good to see you back. And hope that you're recovering fast. I miss the special CD-look on this one, you haven't by chance bought a mirror, did you?
@MindCandyMan - great job on the eye!
@funK - spot the animal... ;) No, really, good job, great work, weird style!
@Hermchen - nothing to crit on the portrait itself, that's wonderful. But the violets are too much for my taste. Looks like we're heading into a close up of eyes thread, eh?
December 12th, 2002, 11:33 PM
bah, I killed some of the linework appeal with sloppy coloring :/
December 12th, 2002, 11:46 PM
Take me back Mitch take me back!!!!!
December 13th, 2002, 12:13 AM
been getting caught up trying to post coz either i cant use the pc one day, or the person who hosts my pics arent up the next.
here is yesterdays...i tried to go fast, but semi-realistic..focusing on the eyes..as ilex mentioned in past spods of mine ive got nothing but cartoony plastic 3d shapes.
here here mindcandyman and hermchen...i gots to practice the eyes too.
mindcandyman...looks super..nice highlights and shadows. only thing i can notice 'wrong' with that last one is the inside part where the lids connect seems a bit too developed. maybe its just me tho.
fab....you have no neck! mwahahaha
Lionel...your style shows thru in your linework...your paintings are rather 'splotchy' if you will...and the pencils on this one look really fast and indirect. maybe a more delicate hand? some thin/thick lines? i think the crosshatching takes away from it...your style works really really well for painting tho :)
Hermchen....that is an awesomely done eye. can you say 'refrence?' good sp too.
funk...thats pretty funky...took me a minute to see it.
Groove....sorry to hear about the accident, was just thinking the other day, as i drove home in our first blizzard conditions, how ive never been in one :knocks on wood: nice sp, good soft lines..keep em coming. :)
Blackhawk...i like that sp alot...something about the composition..maybe simply the border w/ contrasting bg.
nova....another amazing sp from you...was kinda expecting that :can see the future: ...that look in the last one is so...sterile....its not empty...its just kinda numb. scary shit. great job. one philosiphy i will never forgot on art that i try to keep in mind is; make others feel the emotion your trying to invoke. the emotion is irrelevant...the point is how empowering it is to be able to make others feel.
retro....i totally love the fast and accurate lines shoved together balanced by the open areas....you have a wicked style. very inspiring.
jhibbs...soopoib lighting as always, before reading your comment, i hadnt the slightest it was photoshop.
ZippZopp....nice quick sp...great job, and great practice. btw, where is CT?
December 13th, 2002, 12:44 AM
great job mindcandy! you did a really good job of making it look wet... hehe. you've got a few odd spots but whatever...you'll perfect it in no time i'm sure. can't wait to see your next few!!
December 13th, 2002, 12:45 AM
Thanks guys I really appreciate the encouragement. Hey ilex what were the trouble spots that you noticed. I just want to make sure for next time so I don't make the same mistake twice. Thanks!
December 13th, 2002, 12:46 AM
alright, i went with the eye study tonight...i really enjoyed it, a nice change
wazzo; that one looks good, a little stretched horizontally though. i'm in hartford now, but am about to graduate college so i'm moving back home to cheshire, ct. i assume you're in CT?
faB: i like this one, you look very sincere in it. and i like the little hints of different colors
Lionel: that looks pretty good, i really like the lines you've done on the cheeks, on the right hand side i like the way the line goes vertical and then tilts to the left to suggest the form of the cheek.
Wizard of KOZ
December 13th, 2002, 12:52 AM
I tried a new approach today...Instead of starting with a line sketch I just blocked out forms and went from there....
On a side note...Im sorry if I don't respond to the SP's in here, in particular....but I do look at all of them and I think they are bad ass.... The progress shown in here every day is astounding...
December 13th, 2002, 12:58 AM
zippy ...that is a really really fantastik eye render....curious how long it took you?
no im not in CT...im in BC, Canada...just wasnt sure if CT was some far-off place hidden in the bulgarian mountains.
December 13th, 2002, 01:28 AM
oh, haha, sounded like you were from the area!
thanks for the comments, this one was quick tonight...probably about 1/2 hour to 45 minutes
December 13th, 2002, 03:23 AM
hermchen, zippzopp, and mcm-awesome job on the eye renders
jester-yea you can see that reflection in most of my sp's, i usually dont realize what im drawing when i put it there, but its the reflection of the monitor ;p
FaB- i think the unusual color method would work if carried throughout the whole piece as carefully as it is done in the face.
blackhawk-that one has a very traditional feel to it, if it werent for the negative border, id have been totally fooled :p
here's tonights, im stickin with photoshop for awhile. im supertired now, goin to bed ;p
December 13th, 2002, 03:48 AM
Zip, I love that eye.
December 13th, 2002, 03:50 AM
hope these count as selfportraits :bootyshak
December 13th, 2002, 05:17 AM
retro: I love the refined looseness of your sketching
lionel: i think you are on the right track with these drawings,
its good switch it up. Something to maybe focus on could be to be looser, using your pencil to visualize what you see in front of you
December 13th, 2002, 06:10 AM
Retro, I agree with mr. brian. i love them.
Sweet sp MR. Brian. you're new aren't u? welcome:)
December 13th, 2002, 07:09 AM
..for inspiring me to get off my arse and paint.
Ok, this was about 15 or twenty minutes. Far from perfect but i really wanted to break out of that sketchy stuff i've been doing and actually force to PAINT paint one of these. The likeness isn't too close and the lips are huge but I'm actually happy with this one having not really painted in along time. It really took alot of effort for me to break away from my usualy type of stuff and venture into territory i haven't inhabited in a long time. So bare with me while I rediscover a few things!
Thanks for keepin the vibe alive guys.
Mr.Brian~ great one man really good. I can see the soul shimmering through you in this one.
Retro002~ you're always bangin' out these great countour drawings.
jester~ Yes indeed:D Its probly another reason I haven't posted much lately... I don't really have to cd to blame for these not turning out well!
Hermchen~ That eye study is great. I love the texture. Your posts are always some of my favorites in these sp threads.
Wizard of KOZ
December 13th, 2002, 05:15 PM
I've had more time to do Sp's with all of the Rendering time I have to sit through with my finals.... I've been spending more time with my SP's....trying to get learn somthing from it...rather then doing it for the sake of doing it...
The eyes studies have been great... Hermchen your eye study in particular is very sweet
Lionle: It's interesting to see you switching gears and going with the B&W. For whatever reason..... I like the hatching you have going, but I fell like it can be pushed to make the image pop more... dense up the lines in dark areas and have the lighter areas with less longer lines.
Mindcandyman: Your progress (Along with Jester, and obilio) is FRICKING insane. Nice work on the eye study.
jhibbs: Cool stuff...but the right headphone looks like the perspective is off.
retro002: What can I say...your stuff is always wicked....the looseness of your line work is superb.
Mr.Brian: Awesome! I love the blurry quality you have going, and you have the 3/4 perspective done really well. I think the ears maybe too small, or too low down on the face
Grooveholmes: Man I think this is your best yet...The one thing that bugs me is the dark blue lines you have in the piece, it kinda chops up the composition into seprate areas.
KEEP IT UP GUYS! :rock:
December 13th, 2002, 05:49 PM
December 13th, 2002, 09:13 PM
Grooveholmes: I am glad that you are getting back into the swing of things. Painting is great fun don't let it intimidate you but play with the paint and enjoy yourself ;)
jhibbs: Love the rendering on thouse headphones :).
jester: Trying new stuff out is fun but always takes me so long to get new technqiues to a point were I think I am ready to move on to the next thing :).
faB: The line work shows through fine :). The eyes are very strong on that drawing.
MindCandyMan: Nice shading but be careful with the shap of the eyelid.
retro002: Damm you sure have a really goo eye for line art. Have you done sketchs of landscaps and stuff like that. I would be intrested how you would do that in your style.
ZippZopp: Nice reflections :). Be careful about the shap of the top of the eye.
Wizard of KOZ: That method seems to be working for you I would try some more :). I have a long way to go with my technique for sketching watch this space ;).
wazzo: I am a bit of a fish out of water when it comes to using lines in that way. hopefully if I work at it I may learn some useful tricks for my painting :). Your eyes look good but possibly your face is a little squished. I like you shading round the jaw bone convays the shap nicely
Mr.Brian Really enojoy seeing your stuff wish you would post more often ;). I think I probably tightened up even more doing this one (ops) I will try and get things a bit more lose next time. I am never quite sure how I should aproach a pencil drawing in that style. I am use to focusing on tone in a picture and try to ignore edges but when I do sketches like that I try focus more on the edges possibly I should try just seeing tones again.
My go I am finding this tough. The more I strugle with lines the more I marvel at comic book artists.
December 14th, 2002, 12:23 AM
I am on holiday break now!!! I finally have free time, and I don't know what to do. Here is a digiport in two stages. The first was direct observation. The second was taking it i an abstract direction; i rediscovered an old graffiti style i used to use when i airbrushed murals. fun :D made w/photoshop
December 14th, 2002, 01:19 AM
very cool benzo nice and loose
there's tonight attempt
December 14th, 2002, 01:44 AM
fantastic work in here! i love it! Unfortunately i have to put the self portraits on hold for a few days. i just graduated college and have a few parties to attend, as well as packing up all my stuff and moving it back home. so, hopefully, i can do one here and there, but i'll be back for sure by thursday or friday! hope to see some good stuff when i return!
December 14th, 2002, 03:23 AM
faB-nice job, very well painted, simple but precise. do you paint with traditional media?
hermchecn-very different, ive experimented with outlining the planes of the face also, but much differently.
lionel-wow, very different from your norm. dont be frustrated it looks very interesting. and thanx about the headphones, but as..
koz-put it, the perspective is totally off :p look evil man :evilbat: lighting is good.
grooveholmes-im honored :D looks good, i dont think the lips look off. interesting color choices, i like how the facial hair flows into the background.
mr brian-awesome work, i wish you posted more than just once in awhile
retro-hell yea those count, they kick ass. you suggest volume with only a few lines. first is my fav, but are those glasses or is that the shadow under your eye?
zip-congratulations on graduating, i can hardly wait for my turn (im a sophmore) that eye kicks ass by the way. sorry i didnt comment last time but it wasnt showing up for me. is that a window in the reflection?
ok in my opinion the skintone here is the most accurate ive made so far. decided to play around this time, i had fun, so itll prob be a habit now.by the way if this file oesnt show up it should be up within an hour, i got a message from my site about exceeding my data transfer :rolleyes:
December 14th, 2002, 05:05 AM
Well, i did an underpainting but just couldn't go any further with it:o
Everytime I would move forward a step I would find myself hitting the revert to save button.:confused:
Lionel~ awesome! great to see you breaking away from your norm.
December 14th, 2002, 07:42 AM
Hey everyone. I'm still doing my SP's, I just had my machine die on me yesterday though, so hopefully I'll have it back up again tomorrow.
Quick comments before I go to bed...
Grooveholmes - Don't be afraid to push it and make mistakes bud. I know it feels daunting, but keep pushing harder and harder. Try to make every piece your best piece of art. Go into a piece with a positive attitude and if you mess up, it's a lesson learned. It's great to see you back, keep them coming.
Jhibbs - Those eyes... wow. I loved the eyes on this. I reminded me of clouded dead cow eyes, like we used to chop up in science class in high school :D
Fab - Very nice man. You did an excellent job with this one.
Benzo - Very loose, very nice style. Good to see you back. This one was great.
Lionel - There we go. Keep it going man. I'm enjoying this new variety.
Oblio - Freaky man :D
Wizard of Koz - Excellent job on the last two. They have been my favorites of yours so far. This new approach has really helped to pull your facial proportions together. I can remember your last few and these ones were a great leap.
Mr. Brian - Very nice work. It feels too blurry to me though. I find my eye having to search around for a moment to find an edge to grab onto. But otherwise, very well done. You have the 3/4 nailed.
Retro - Beautiful contour work. The first one with the upturned head is my favorite. With the few lines, you still nailed it nicely. Great job.
Goodnight everyone. Hopefully I'll have my 3 SP's up tomorrow night.
December 14th, 2002, 10:11 AM
This one is for Blackhawk
http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Painting 67 sargent self portrait.jpg
"And I set my mind to seek and explore by wisdom concerning all that has been done under heaven. It is a grievous task which God has given to the sons of men to be afflicted with." ---Ecclesiastes 1:13
I look to God for the answers.
December 14th, 2002, 10:48 AM
some more sketches from me.
good stuff everyone :D
December 14th, 2002, 12:50 PM
jhibbs thanks, I dont use traditional media, I'm not sure if I should, colours work differently, could be very interesting though
grooveholmes interesting, I havent found a way to start in 'layers' yet, I tried a oil paint style, but I find myself painting pretty much opaque the eyes, nose etc then the whole face without layering colour, btw, my portrait started really bad, took about 30 min to get in the 'flow'.. takes a little while sometimes to shut up the mind
Lionel keep at it, I'm sure youll find something about line that suits you, shading is nice on the last one in some places
December 14th, 2002, 06:19 PM
December 15th, 2002, 12:18 AM
I love the colored pencil one xflox. Nicely done.
Scary eyes Jhibbs!!!! I will post more c & c's tomorrow. .
December 15th, 2002, 03:33 AM
xflox-good form on the nose on that second one.
grooveholmes-maybe try to go straight in and paint next time so your not so attached to the underpainting? looks good tho
blackhawk-sorry to hear about your machine. i was thinkin more glass pheres for the eyes but your suggestion is creepier :p
ok i went with the eye study, first time i ever did one of these. sorry its not more detailed, but i didnt have enough lighting. my lamp is out in the living room in a setup for a long painting im doing.
December 15th, 2002, 07:58 AM
My first selfportrrait with Painter:
large version (http://www.duracel.de/stuff/art/paintings/self25-large.jpg)
Damn many and damn good new portraits since my last post ...
Well, i like those last one on page 5.
And well, your photo - hey, cool nose - but i never thought you paint it wrong. ;)
really great ones, great!
Especially i like those shading of "spod84.jpg"
great work evertime - i special like the one without pupils(and blue triangles) - it has a special mood in
again, great work, and i like your color-pencil one
try to give the color-pencil one some morecolor - a littel bit of yelow here, some green there and well some blue there too .. ;)
Keep it up.
@all others - well great great great work too ... im to lazy, to comment them all - forgive me.
December 15th, 2002, 12:36 PM
yo... how's going.
I'm with Duracel - damn good new SP's around.
I'll comment later on you people.
Here's the last Oblio crap.
All is covered in snow here... again.
December 15th, 2002, 03:17 PM
thought I'd try and stick to the local colour for a change, but my resolution didn't last too long now it looks like I have been smacked .. uh .. more than once.
Lionel fantastic progress! keep going.
xflox the coloured pencil one glows
duracel another well observed sp
wizard love the way you appear out of the darkness
benzo welcome! I like the 3dness
all I have time for today
December 15th, 2002, 04:32 PM
been a while since i posted in here...school/life is just crazy now. I've been looking at the thread a lot, definitely some awesome stuff getting done around here.
here's one for an illustration about anthrax...first time using goauche...keep up the good work everyone! :cool:
December 15th, 2002, 04:32 PM
I am still behind the current date, hehe. Awesome SP's, good to see some new faces around here.
6 min. quickie
finally getting a little more comfortable with lower perspectives
December 15th, 2002, 10:37 PM
great posts from everyone....great stuff all around
been busy with whatnot, my g/f from LA is gonna be here tomorrow :D so my posts might dwindle even more..
loaned a couple books on traditional oil painting and am going thru the step by step...im impressed with how well the techniques crossover to digital.
first study from last night..focusing on shapes and contrast. working with basic colors (should have used even less.
whos this?? ;)
got to get an eye study done still..
taff; those first two are seriously deformed...judging by the bottom one, im guessing the first two are exagerations? i hope so :o good pencils :)
cotron; nice portrait. anthrax kills :D
mia; hehe..yah the colors are a bit random...i'll be nicer next time. LOL just kidding
oblio; good work master jedi oblio....reminds me of star wars.
duracel; your painting technique doesnt seem to have altered the slightest considering learning a new program...what where you using before?" photoshop? good stuff as always
jhibbs; whoah...i cant wait for the detailed one...impressive stuff.
xflox; yeah try saturating some colors....the eyes seem a little overworked on some of them. good job overall
MCM; thats one of the best sp's ive seen from you...very loose compared to some of your others and your painting skills have improved amazingly. keep it up.
fab;; good as always....i tend to like the jagged connection of the color shapes....curious what a blended one by you would look like tho.
benzo; hey there....great style, i really like it. lets see some more! :chug:
lionel; great sketch...i like that one much more than the last ones...its got moreline variatoin and tone rendering. great as always.
...well adios all keek it up.
December 16th, 2002, 12:42 AM
i used a digital photo for reference on this one. its fun to draw yourself from a profile that way. I was mainly interested with the shapes here. in the photo i kind of had this cosmic stare, but after i stopped using the reference, my current state started to appear.
thx for all your comments.
lionel- i like the etch-like hatching you got goin on
fab- nice painterly quality. you can tell you are right handed. next time try making more contrast by adding more specular/ highlights in the flesh, not just the eyes.
jhibbs- cool stuff! what r those triangles doin to you?
grooveholmes- its too dark
mindcandyman-like whats going on in the hair. work on bringing the form of the nose out with some highlights and bounce light
xflox- good work,
duracel- you've really captured an essence, maybe you could crop the pic to get a better composition
oblio-you are a cosmic vampire:)
miasmak- lets see more
taff- love the looseness and the confidence- keep this goin
wazzo-it would be interesting to see how the background would look if you painted a cool color over the base color there. experiment with that maybe
December 16th, 2002, 03:57 AM
@oblio: man, i'd love to sit in a snowy pointless forest now.
full of mistakees again
December 16th, 2002, 04:30 AM
@retro -your new style rock as bad as your old. It would be a plesure to wondwer around the pointless with you guys.
@benzo - i'm trying to quit my weak habbits.. but once in a while a cross a nasty alien female (check Keyth's cosmic photo album :) ) and.. i bite. Hopefully i'll get my hands on a digitall cam. myself next year.. and then i'll be able to study my ugly mug in a static way. Mind your line there... try to make it thinner where the shape is in the light and thicker, (bigger) where the dark side lies. Keep it up :chug:
@wazzzo - iiiiiii.... aaaaa.... FIGHT! :eek: auch... can't wait to see the oil ones.
@taff - hey.. how are you friend? Still going strong? What do you think of my soft rendered sp - a la Taff? anywhere near? ;) :chug:
@cotron - shit man... that SP needs some air ;) I like the skin tones on that one - maybe the hair could get more render?
@mia - always color poetry - i'll go for an eye stydy too and i'll comment on it after i'll have tried it myself.
@oblio - ugh.. messy friend. Try to clean it up a bit. Also your eye seems a bit to much on left. Shape is confuse on the right... seems flat on the bottom... you STINK! :p
@Duracel i love your style. Your right shoulder (left of the pic) seems too big.
@jhibbs - i've lost count on it.. :bow: you rock bro' kick ass study! :eek:
@xflox - welcome on the spooky alley of the forum - i love them all. Maybe more detail to the eye would make them pop up a bit. MORE!
@MCM - creat collor - if you only could take more care about the form... your nose doesn't read well .. and all the mouth zone loocs flat. I was at home while loading it - and i've seen the forehead, and said.. SHIT - this will rock me now.. but in the end... it wasn't quite there. A big improvement friend and always nice to see you playing with new brishes and stuff - i like doing the same - try to cover the bottom of that SP and see what i mean - i'm sure the next one will kick my butty! Thx. (i hope you don't mind some oblio rotten candy-feedback. If you do.. i'll shut up foreva')
December 16th, 2002, 04:39 AM
retro-i love the lines from the cardboard even though you hate them (at least you did last time) they look like monitor distortion lines to me. theres something that appeals to me about making good artworks on cheap, otherwise useless materials.
benzo-thanx, interesting style youve got there.
wazzo-thanx, this is supposed to be the detialed one :rolleyes: not sure how much better it is.
taff-i always enjoy seeing your traditional media and interesting linework, keep at it.
duracel-thanx, that ones very well painted, youre definitely off to a good start. do you have alot of traditional experience, because it look that way.
oblio-very interesting, maybe try a more unified palette next time, the warm-colored halo and the black dont mingle too well (could be personal preference though).
ok here's tonights, i did another eye study, execpt the idea was to do the portrait in the reflection of the eye. i tried to get as much of that in here as i could.
December 16th, 2002, 08:39 AM
watercoloury mess. I can't manage to do a single pic without a non-maskable interrupt. very frustrating not to mention counter productive. crappy interupted one followed by one where I was kinda thinking of a friend in taiwan I haven't seen for 2 years. The portrait ended up looking more like her than me.
and now without further ado
jhibbs escheresque yet flowing your eye studies make my eyes water
retro shall we call you mr pizza box. I like it messy I can't see too many mistakes
benzo I like the variety in the line work.
wazzo was that you or jackie? I'll duck next time. love the volumes on the golden one
taff Mmm, vigorous I like these ones better than the super shaded ones. these have more raw energy
cotron looks panic stricken, lot of info in the eye there.
December 16th, 2002, 10:10 AM
miasmak - I really like these last self portraits...the watercolorish look is really awesome. I would spend more time before you start painting making sure the proportions are correct. A lot of your portraits have unique color usage but the proportions take away from it. I know I am one to talk huh...hehe...it's a struggle. Keep it up...and keep measuring when you do your portraits.
jhibbs - Nice eye study. The reflection looks really cool.
Oblio - Thanks for the feedback man. I LOVE this kind of feedback. The worst kind is "looks good.". I want to grow and everything you said was right on the money. I have problems with this angle for some reason that's why I keep doing it. I will keep trying! I will kick your butt!!!!
retro - I really like what you have been doing lately. They look awesome. I love the colors. Try a crazy pose...I am curious to see how it comes out.
benzo - Thanks for the feedback...yeah the nose is flat flat flat. I love this latest self portrait from you man. It looks awesome. The line weights really make the difference...great job.
wazzo - I love those two man. I really like the pose in the first one...looks awesome hehe. Watch your proportions...your head is kind of shifted a little. I love the bruce lee portrait. I would have made his eyes a bit darker. Making them that bright makes them look flat. Great job man. I cracked up when I saw your pose hehe.
taff - Lower perspectives are so hard...really hard. The nose on the second one you did is turned up a too much. Also I think the jaw lines are a little off as well. Awesome style though man. Looks good keep it up.
cotron - Looks awesome man! HAHAH...that is the best. My only criticism would be to make the mask have a feel of more pressure on the face...what I mean is that right now it looks sort of just pasted on...but if the skin was folded a bit around where the mask meets the face it would look more realistic. Also the strap on the side would create a skin fold as well. Looks awesome man heheheh. I love it!
Oblio - I love the concept and the colors in the last portrait you did. I think the proportions are off a bit though. Your face seems a lot longer than you normally draw it. The eye is rendered nicely. Keep it up.
December 16th, 2002, 01:09 PM
thanks for the comments, guys... I needa get back on the daily train, it's been much too long.
mindcandy- that's a really god point, something was off about the mask for me...I'm gonna go in w/ photoshop and tweak a few things...this'll be a traditional/digital hybrid, cuz I'm too new with gouache for the finer details. ;)
might i say how much of improvement I've been noticing? the degree of skill that you guys have attained in the past few months is equal to the years it took for me to get to that point. keep it up, your stuff is getting awesome, I admire your dedication.
December 16th, 2002, 03:25 PM
*pokes head in* no pun aaha
There are some really lovely styles in this thread ! :bigeyes:
I did this quicky a while ago and really need to get back into drawing each day like before. Unemployment has it's advantages !
One hand holding the tiny mirror other hand holding the stylus.
Did anyone also got the comment that you were doing too much self portraits ? :confused:
December 16th, 2002, 04:24 PM
nice stuff egerie. U guys make me want to do my self portrait. I will today, thanks.
December 16th, 2002, 04:56 PM
hey.. egerie .. i can see the matrix reflectin in your glasses... have you found the one? It seems so :D
nice render on the hair... you've got big skills - WELCOME!
December 16th, 2002, 05:59 PM
a little confrontation between oldschool pen-artwork and pure digital work. i cant bind the pics here only adress :-(
but hope u enjoy it tho
u can see more under http://www.renderosity.com/gallery.ez?ByArtist=Yes&Artist=juprez http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=246269&Start=37&Artist=juprez&ByArtist=Yes http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=233405&Start=61&Artist=juprez&ByArtist=Yes
December 16th, 2002, 07:01 PM
Some you win some you lose. Here is one I lost :/.
December 16th, 2002, 07:58 PM
pen is so hard isn't it lionel. Don't throw this portrait away there are some good things in it. Glean what you can from it...learn from it and move on. Keep pushing yourself man I predict that soon you will have a breakthrough and start seeing things in a different way. Just keep pushing that's the important part.
December 16th, 2002, 08:11 PM
Again no portrait - felt dizzy and way terribly busy all day. Hop eto get back to drawing tomorrow (before getting off to the Lord of the Rings film night - both parts! :D can't wait!!!)
@MindCandy - Like that red sargent brush piece - the eyes look like floating soft toy one somehow ;)
@xflox - the eyes seem a bit large and the top of your head too flat. But I like your bold hatching style!
@jhibbs - I like that 1st eye study - but the black mass on top is distracting from the good job. But I love that 2nd one. Great idea to include a mini portrait into the reflection. Wow!
@Duracel - great painting with painter!
@Oblio - cool one this blue one - what is this streak of light meant to come from? Your eye study is amazing, a clear defined round shape of the iris would have made it perfect!
@miasmak - yes, looks like you've been hurt badly (but to know how to draw this might come in handy... ;) ) As for the watercolor pieces, the 1st is... hmm... messy, but the second is a nice one. Perhaps you should try only to wet the paper where you want to apply color right then.
@cotron - that expression in your eyes - very scary! To imagine what you might have seen...
@taff- yours look a bit squeezed and crushed
@wazzo - good pieces (I even recognized bruce lee before I read your post) but both look a bit unfinished to me.
@benzo - looks like chiseled. Despite the fact that it was done from a photo - it looks amazing!
@retro - mistakes or not, I dig that cardboard series!
@egerie - wonderful pieces, a bit too dark, though, for my taste. Yes, unemployment does have it's advantages when it comes to offer you enough practising time for drawing. But it gets on your nerves when lasting too long. I'm without a job (officially) since May this year. Just decided to start my own business now as the German recession currently makes it almost impossible to find even job offers one could apply to! Comments on doing too many spods? Not at this place... ;) my friends and parents are impressed, my partner still can't see any resemblance... I promised to continue until he does... :D
@Lionel - nose is too long, eyes aren't aligned properly, chin/mouth area is too small - but I recognized you, so it wasn't really lost. Perhaps you should go back a step and sketch in the constructing lines of vertical half, eye-line, length of nose and width of mouth. I found that my portraits come out way better when I take the time to do so.
December 16th, 2002, 08:20 PM
Really excellent work everyone. Jeprez I like the ones with the maps. Really cool stuff.
Mind Candy Man: hey u changed your avatar!;)
Here's my first sp ever. Done in painter with the dirty marker.
its weird, cause it looks like me, but I've never done this, so its weird in a way. What scares me is that it looks just like me:confused:
I'm really not that serious, but It just came out that way, cuz I concentrated to much on it I guess.
Well. what'd u think guys?
December 16th, 2002, 09:25 PM
Frist portrait on wacom\photoshop
December 16th, 2002, 09:30 PM
Arrrr I focused on the details and not on the over all masses and completely lost my likeness :/ grrr. Stupid Stupid Stupid. I don't know what it is but I can only see a picture and all its mistakes after it is finished. Lets hope I learn from my mistakes.
December 16th, 2002, 09:39 PM
I suck...but I am learning
http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Painting 68 creepy chalk sp.jpg
yeah I changed my avatar....hahahahah...that was hilarious...did you see my reply iwasink?
December 16th, 2002, 11:11 PM
mindcandy man-wow nice job on that one, reminds me of fireflies from hell :p the light grays throughout make it appear foggy, nice effect, dunno if you were going for it though. oh and you dont suck, youre doing massively well, just to prove it check this out, this was me last year, (being an artist most of my life) and you just started:
lionel-hmm dont be too hard on yourself, the lighting is convincing and more interesting than your usual.
jester-thanx, the mini-portrait was the original idea, but its really hard to make it more detailed.
oblio-wow really like your eye study, it has a very pastel feeling to it. have you ever done any pastel work?
egerie-yea omg i get that 'you must really love yourself' or 'dont you draw anything else'. very nice use of the program though, you've shown alot with very little (form-wise) looks very traditional. i didnt know it was digital until you said stylus.
miasmak-i like the color scheme in the second one more. i havent used the watercolor brush myself, i get too much slowdown (only 128MB ram :( )
finally hit the big 100, id like to thank Android for the inspiration and great idea, ive improved more in the past four months than i have in the last two years, and i have no plans on stopping.
December 16th, 2002, 11:12 PM
no i didnt mind candy man. where is it? Can u link it?
December 17th, 2002, 03:49 AM
December 17th, 2002, 04:03 AM
@jhibbs: congratulations! :chug:
@lionel: i like the lost one, do some more - i'd like to see you win against the line :)
December 17th, 2002, 05:27 AM
Trying to get a painty look out of PS7. Awesome stuff on this thread recently, especially Jhibbs, Duracel, ZippZopp, and faB!
December 17th, 2002, 05:47 AM
Hey everyone. It's been awhile, my POS machine decided to take a holiday this weekend, really turned it into a fustrating weekend for me with assignments due and no machine :mad:
Here's my crap I did this weekend...
Proportions look off on this one from me being a moron and taking a digital pic of it at an angle :( The actual drawing has correct proportions, trust me :D
Dec. 14 Just one of those nights...
Dec. 16 I suck at painting... period
I'm too busy tonight playing catchup with school work on this machine to comment, but I wanted to say great work everyone. It was an absolute joy seeing all the great SP's from over the weekend. Take it easy everyone.
December 17th, 2002, 09:48 AM
egerie, good to have you here, I like the way the nose and lips are drawn. Don't let the unemployment get you down.
oblio, the inside corner looks so real. I could tell it was an Oblio-eye staring at me straight away when I opened up the page
juprez, hi welcome, I was wondering if you were the Renderosity juprez. Some intriguingly creepy things in your gallery. more comments when I've had some time to look at them.
Lionel, you didn't loose: the nose is just a bit long, the bottom part of the face is a bit too small, the ear a bit low. the line work and the shadows however are good and I'd say you aren't in a rut anymore. don't stop. see there you fixed things in the next one. Great texture on the cheeks. It looks better with the shoulders as well.
mcm, thanks for your frank comments, I really appreciate them. I will do my best to improve on my proportions. If I only have 45 min to an hour at a time to work on something, I tend to rush to get things finished. watch out for the vampire fireflies, they suck your dreams. You learn pretty quickly too.
Jester, thanks for the comments, it is watercolour in Painter so I pick a wet looking brush rather than wet the paper.
iwasink, dirty marker isn't easy, something wrong around the eyes and the linework makes it a bit busy.
RichardSmith, letting off steam? what no ears ;) I like the wet paint look on the inside of the eye.
blackhawk, I like the painted one a lot, the proportions aren't accurate that's all. The nose detail is my favourite tho.
jhibbs, reminds me of fireworks, congrats on the 100th one
December 17th, 2002, 10:16 AM
I won't be able to do a self portrait tonight I have a screening of a movie I did and then I am going straight to the Two Towers midnight show. I did this one on the train this morning...I know it was an ultra quick one but it's better than not doing anything right! From memory...looks nothing like me really hehe.
http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/drawing 63 pen memory sp.jpg
miasmak - Thanks...yeah I always worry how things will come across when someone is just reading words and can't see your face. Your stuff is awesome keep pushing. Feel free to rip my stuff apart. That's what helps me grow. I like that...vampire fireflies...that's cool.
blackhawk - these are awesome. I especially like the first one. It is rendered so nicely!!!!! Even though the proportions are off I love the style of the last one you did. The painting style looks awesome! YOU CAN PAINT!!!!!!!! YOU CAN!!!
RichardSmith - The lighting on this one is AWESOME...I love the smudgy style you achieved too...well done!
retro - Nice one...the head looks a little shifted to the left but I really like it!
ilex - I love the sketchy nature of this one. The eyes are menacing. I think the jaw could come in a bit more...not sure. Great work.
Jhibbs - This one is inventive and just plain awesome! And it still looks totally like you! Glad you like the fog ;) ...Thanks for the encouragement too man...that pic isn't so bad you did...the proportions are off but it was rendered pretty good. Hopefully my upcoming classes will really help me. Thanks again man...your stuff is inspiring...really it is.
lionel - That last one you did really captures the lighting you wanted. Looks really awesome. Great job man. It's awesome to see you branching out.
elwood - I really like the colors on this one. Keep posting!
iwasink - This last one is really good. I especially like the rendering of the "ear muff" that is on the left. Great job man.
oblio - That eye blew me away. Awesome stuff. Wow.
egerie - Great work! Keep em coming I want to see more!.
December 17th, 2002, 03:14 PM
MindCandyMan - Sir yes sir ! and thanks :) Tonight I'm unpacking the home box and will be ready to whip some new art.
miasmak - Um actually I do have a job at the moment. Just absolutely no time at all to paint/draw/sculpt.. But thanks a bundle for the warm welcome !
retro002 - I really really love your pencil hatching. It reminds me a bit of italian masters sketches. You must often have the question as of why are you doing upshots for your self-portraits..?
jhibbs - Nice to see someone's reading ;). The natural look is all thanks to Painter Classic (gasp). As for the comments on loving oneself, I also get them. Even mentionning Rembrandt doesn't do anything... thx !
Btw that portrait is WICKED ! Did you save progress of your work or steps ? I'm really curious how you did that one.
jester - dark indeed as it was made in near darkness :)
It's nice to have good feedback but also "negative" critics around you ; it drives you pushing your skills and not rest on your laurels. So show him better !! ;)
And all the best of lucks in your capitalism ventures !! :chug:
Oblio - Ehehe no it's not the Matrix but the photoshop tool palette you're probably seeing reflected there.. The grain from the digital paper might be the cause of it. I'd love to find "the one" tho if you know what I mean *wink*
Iwasink - I'm delighted you felt inspired. Dirty marker is so hard to handle like previously pointed. I love blue and it has somewhat of a nice cartoony feel to it (like the hairline on the left). Keep 'em commin' !
Yet another thing I did last year while I had time. Crappy times = dirty colours. Wow that left ear is messed up lol.. And those damn photoshop toolbar reflections !!!
December 17th, 2002, 04:57 PM
i wish i didnt feel like this
great pencil-portrait blackhawk!!
best yet! i believe you on the proportions!
ps...how long did it take you?
lionel: don't fall back on doing those boring sp's when crosshatching is hard! is was soo good to see you doing something else!
the shading is cool though!
everyone is damn good in here :/ makes me wish i practiced more, to become only half as good as you!
December 17th, 2002, 05:01 PM
now i have my third eye
December 17th, 2002, 08:10 PM
Sorry for the lack of comment but I am really tired atm I will try and catch up ;)
I have discovered that I can't seem to draw :/ so I have been working on that. It has been a bit of a frustrating few days :). I am a bit imbarised to post this one but just wanted to show you I haven't been lazy :)
December 17th, 2002, 09:22 PM
benzo, awesom sp!
December 18th, 2002, 01:22 AM
lionel-doesnt look so bad really, just cut off the skull but the rest is good (you'll see what i mean if you cover from the jaw area over). dont be frustrated, we all have off days.
benzo-interesting copncept, jaw's a bit big for my taste but eh could be personal preference. very intersting style, somewhere between stroke and line, reminds me of graffiti.
blackhawk-great stuff, my favorites are the 14th and 15th. 14th reminds me of a childrens book illustration (for some reason Through the Looking Glass comes to mind?) and the 15th is just awesome, youve really nailed the use of black+white media on toned paper. i finally managed to buy myself a recycled sketchbook :D
egerie-yea i always read :p i was using painter classic for quite awhile in the beginning. nice job on the long one, i have so much trouble with the monitor light sometimes :rolleyes: and im glad you like my 100th. sorry i didnt save my progress i just started with the eye on the left and worked outwards making the strokes radiate. no real specific method (other than using the navigator window to check the likeness).
richardsmith-thanxman. you definitely have acheived a very painterly look with this one, quite convincing. not sure how i like the black though.
coriat-quite vicious looking
retro-thanx man, your style=red pen on gold paper looks like old master drawings. your dislike of cross-hatching makes for some beautifully parallel lines in your shading. cool stuff man. id like to see your take on a still-life.
ok decided to experiment tonight, im sure you were all getting tired of the straightfoward rendering :p so yea. may not be a success but its different. here's tonights and a 5 min. study:
December 18th, 2002, 02:40 AM
here's a quicky Painter portrait.
December 18th, 2002, 03:52 AM
i apologize for these, to be frank i was badly stoned... again... :bash:
@egerie: answer is simple: 'cause its easier. ;)
December 18th, 2002, 07:02 AM
Justin Sweet.... Damn man what are you doing here..haha man thats crazy... I love the energy going on in your portrait..... the quick application of color seems to be a bit more purposeful then some of the line work..
December 18th, 2002, 09:16 AM
Ladyes and Gentelmans.. we're in the presence of grace!
Justin Sweet... THANK YOU for taking the time.
(Keyth - go get those glases and the good wine... yes.. that bottle)
How could i hang my ugly mug here anymore?
Oh.. i don't have where to put this so... here i go.
Great stuff everyone!!
December 18th, 2002, 09:33 AM
Whoa holy cow...Last night I went to the midnight showing of Lord of the Rings and I only got 2 hours of sleep. I am dragging...after seeing Justin Sweet's name come up I feel like I have had a shot of caffeine!!! This is totally awesome...I go to your site at least twice a day during my work hour (don't tell my boss). Thanks for posting in here man. We all bow to your skills. :bow: I have to say as well that the painting you did for the Lord of Rings Ad was SO AWESOME...the balrog looked so freakin awesome. Post more stuff if you can!! Yeah keyth get the good bottle...what oblio said!
December 18th, 2002, 10:11 AM
Great googly moogly...(insert jaw drop here). Justin on the boards. Whoa! I just suddenly realized what a Sweet-groupie I am when seeing a post from you makes my week! Thanks so much for taking the time to post!
I'm a huge fan and just want to convey my admiration and respect for your work. It's a constant inspiration and source of wonder for me. I know many will concur...you've got quite a few fans on this board I know.
Great portrait work, and as others have requested...post more pieces! :D
December 18th, 2002, 11:48 AM
Well, again, only great work (ah, perhaps lionels last one isnt ;) - evertime good times follow bad times :) )
But, i one picture is just a bit better than the others in my eyes, jhibbs one with the eye in the middle of those concentric strokes. Really really great, imho!
Here is my next one,
it was really cold today, after 1 hour walking in the streets of the town after i have missed the train.
large version (http://www.duracel.de/stuff/art/paintings/self26.jpg)
PS: Can some native speaker help and correct my sentence above? I dont know "in the streets" or "trough the streets"? And also i dont know, do you say "... streets of the city" or how?
December 18th, 2002, 12:18 PM
nice brachio-radialis stroke justin,
thank you for posting,
you grace us with your presence.
December 18th, 2002, 12:41 PM
Wow, I have been enjoying the last couple of pages, really great portrait. I am currently being on night shift, which really kills the time to do drawings and paintings. :/
Thanks for the comments about my last portraits. Yeah, the first two really were out of proportion and at parts a little skewed. I made each of these in about 5 - 10 Mintues trying to capture everything without having to use the eraser. Well, as you can see I am not exactly good at it, since the faces didn't turn out well. See you. :)
December 18th, 2002, 01:21 PM
that's ridiculous Andrew, but thanks.
December 18th, 2002, 02:35 PM
i'm back! just moved home, got my computer set up, hopefully tonight i get a portrait in. everything looks fantastic in here and i'm glad to be back!
Mindcandyman: what did you think of lord of the rings? i saw it last night at midnight on large screen format, much larger then a regular screen and it was simply amazing!!! i'm in awe of those movies, they are amazing, and as a CG creature, Gollum was incredible, as much of a star wars fan as i am, i think CG gollum wipes the floor with CG Yoda and Jar Jar. what a movie!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 18th, 2002, 04:20 PM
Today I tried my "difficult" side again, i.e. when my viewing the mirror crosses my drawing arm. Not a good idea, since I got disturbed by several phone calls... I know, a rather lame excuse, but it was difficult to find the same position again and - more important - that "drawing state of mind".
@Blackhawk - yes, moron. Why didn't you take another one without an angle? :confused: The other studies are great (as always, I tend to say)
@MindCandyMan - this memory piece looks more like you than your early ones!
@egerie - great lighting, reminds me of Rembrandt!
@coriat - phew, bad teeth day ;)
@benzo, looks great, but the eyes seem to be positioned a bit too high; special reason for a third eye on your cheek? I mean, why not on your brow?
@Lionel - just answer one question - how much time did you spend on your drawing? All right. Now compare this to the time it takes you to paint... I know you can do much better!
@jhibbs - great explosion, great experiment!
@jsweet - that unfinished left eye disturbs me. I love the black lines moving playfully around the shapes.
@retro - shame on you ;) but the portraits look good.
@Duracel - looks like you almost froze to death.
December 18th, 2002, 06:22 PM
Yesterday (17 Dec) - fooling around.. again.
Just got some BAD NEWS! I hate bad news!
@jester - last one = GREAT!
@ZipZop - welcome back.
@Justin - spare some magic for us...
@Duracel - i love that SP. I'm not native but i will try to help you with the sentence. I think it is "walking the streets", "on the streets" or "trough the fucking frozen city" :eek: :D
@retro - man.. even stoned you are like a plotter! :bow:
@jhibbs - brother - that one "radial" is such a kick ass :bow: thank you. You realy shoed some bad stuff.
December 18th, 2002, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by Oblio
"trough the fucking frozen city"
Yeah, i think thats it! :D ;)
Well, your yesterday one is cool, and in a way funny to me. ;)
The todays one is our oblio, undoubtedly.
Jester, great one, .. but well, im quit happy there are no damn glasses uppon my nose i have to draw. ;) The left part of your spectacle frame is larger than the right one
December 18th, 2002, 08:31 PM
jhibbs: I should of sorted it out but I guees I was a bit fed up by that stage :). I love all the really cool stuff you have been doing atm that 100ths one reminds me of chuck close
Oblio: Sorry to hear about the bad news :/ nothing worse
jester: Was tring to do lots of quick ones to get my drawing better. I spent much longer on this one :). I guess I wasn't in my drawing state of mind
Duracel: You look soo cold. I lov the brush strokes on the background.
retro002: You seem to draw just as well stoned as not :). great stuff as always
jsweet: Love the sp it is nice to see that Android inspired you as much as us :). You have quite a fan club here it seems ;). Thanks for contributing you would be surprised how much it means to us amatures to have people like you and Androd putting work up.
Well I am still trying to get the hang of this :). Damm it I will even if it kills me. Tis the office party tommorw so I dobt I will do one tommorow
December 18th, 2002, 10:10 PM
hey everyone. i have been on a leave of absence from my sps. i just couldnt do it anymore, but i did one tonight. this one is in charcoal.
lionel: looks like your head is getting a little elongated in the last one. you are starting to put down line in the directions of planes, but try and make them fit together more, and not as spotty. good work.
oblio: the eyes on the gladiator one are great!
jester: bravo on pushing yourself to try harder things by drawing your bad side.
duracel: heh, very spooky and cold feeling.
retro: i like the red one a lot. hm...seems like you are stoned a lot, heh.
jhibbs: aahhh!! crazy globule crazyness! i like. especially how you have the blue going into your face.
benzo: your inking style here looks great. i see a lot of confidence and authority in your strokes. interesting placement of the 3rd eye as well.
jsweet: great to have you on the boards! i look forward to more portraits from you, hint hint. my good friend got to see a demo from you at Fullerton College. i am very jealous!!
here we go:
December 19th, 2002, 01:13 AM
thanks for everyones comments. i spent more time on this one and didn't draw first, but took the approach from keyth's demo; stopped when i thought it was gettin muddy.
daarken-very nice traditional port. i can tell you've been going to the workshops there to draw
lionel- nice job. try making every hatch go with the form. spend more time on the mark making. no straight marks
oblio- i hope things get better. lovethe emotion you have captured!
jhibbs- very painterly stuff, i want to see an area more rendered with sharpness to give it a focus
retro02- at least you're drawing:eek: like the strokes
jester- i would like to see a sp with the loosness you have giving the jacket.
duracel- awesome job! once again though, i don't like the composition, but thats just me
jsweet- i love how you played with this one. you have shown me that you don't have to show everything to bring an idea across or make it interesting. thx!
elwood-you know how to post, now lets see more...
thx for the suggestions- i did a quick fix on the eye
December 19th, 2002, 01:52 AM
wow thanks for the comments everyone, i wasnt sure how the 100th would go over, it was really an experiment.
benzo-yea i agree, it blurs together too much because of lack of detail, i should have rendered the face better. the eye on the left (your right) is too close to the right one, you can see if you cover it up the rest looks great. on second glance however it looks as though you may have combined two views, tilted back and more straight, be careful of this (i do it alot, blocking in the entire face first helps)
daarken-thanx alot. there is a great void in your absence here, i always look foward to seeing your portraits. i hope you can manage a few more :D great job on that one BTW, is that conte?
lionel-much better on this one, you're getting the hang of it.
oblio-sorry to hear about your bad news. like the helmet one, it made me laugh. good job on the eyes though
jester-yea i was hit by the interruption demon today as well, and it does tend to effect the end result :mad: but just like i said to benzo, thats just another reason to block in the whole head first.
duracel-wow i cant believe you single out mine, thank you very much. very cold feeling on this one (thats what you were going for i assume). very ghostly too.
ok here's tonights, the steps are posted in the steps thread.
December 19th, 2002, 02:15 AM
jhibbs: awww, you guys love me, you really love me!! heh. man, i had no idea that was #100, congratulations! i think i am still around 68 or something. my last one was in charcoal. i used the soft charcoal pencils that have the string on them. and then some vine charcoal, and a 4B charcoal pencil as well.
benzo: thanks! i need to go to more! i just checked your animations, they are killer!
December 19th, 2002, 03:57 AM
@ daarken: if you know any other way coping with life, just let me know, ok? i really like your last piece. how long did it take you?
@lionel: no, i definately dont. your last attempt is way better than before. keep it up!
also the icy street got me this morning, ouch my back still hurts :D
December 19th, 2002, 05:00 AM
retro: video games! they cure everything, heh. um..i worked on it off and on for like 2 hours i think.
jhibbs: oh yeah, i think you are like, the only one that puts eye lashes in. very interesting.
December 19th, 2002, 05:49 AM
I was feeling really depressed as of late, then I read Jason's quote on solitude that he posted. It helped to cheer me up a bit.
Sorry, I've been out of the loop for a bit so my comments will be disshovled and half-hazard.
Retro - The latest one you did is incredible. I'm especially impressed with the nose. You captured a nice roundness to it with just simple hatched tone, awesome man. I think the forehead lost some mass on this one though on the right side.
Jhibbs - You've been busy man :D Congrats on the 100th. I think I'm 8 away from 100, not really sure. I had to post some SP's on another webspace and it screwed up my numbering. Proportion-wise, your last one looks great. It's great to see your experimentation, it's always refreshing to see people mix it up.
Daarken - Great job on this one. I was wondering, did you pull out white highlights with chalk on this one? I hear you about it being difficult. I find my subconcious slipping more and more into my SP's now, and it's starting to make it difficult to do these at this rate. I've been slacking on them the last couple of days, it's really difficult sometimes.
Benzo - Nice job, eyes look like they are too tight together though.
Lionel - It's great to see you trying a different style now, don't let it stagnate though. Always look for a new approach to an SP. Great job man.
Jester - I'm sorry man, I'm afflicted with a great disease known as laziness :D By the time I loaded that picture off of the digital, I saw how I screwed up, but I just said fuck it. I wasn't too impressed with the first pencil one I did anyways. I learned a lot from it, but it was stiff as hell to me. I hate doing stiff drawings. A lot of my life drawing gestures in the past were very stiff and I had to rewire my approach to get more gesture and feeling into them. It's been difficult for me, I'm learning, unlearning, relearning over and over again.
This last one is great, the glasses are off, but it's a non-issue, I'm looking at the face and you did a much better job on this one. BTW, don't answer the phone when doing SP's :D
Oblio - lol, nice job on these two. The first one made me crack a smile. It has a very stalwart expression to it. Nice job man.
Coriat - Welcome back to the thread bud :) Very vicious, looks like the jaw became loopy though. For the pencil one, I can't remember, 4 hours, 5 hours maybe.
Jsweet - Very nice work. I can't tell you how many hours I've spent looking over your art :eek: Thanks for posting here, we always appreciate great artists popping in. If you can find the time in your schedule, please continue to post :D
Duracel - This one definitely has a cool feeling to it. The brush you picked even complimented it around the hat and hairline. It almost looks like icicles.
Sorry if I missed anyone. I'm going to go ahead and crash, I've had a splitting headache for about 5 days in a row now and it hurts to stay up late anymore. Night.
December 19th, 2002, 06:31 AM
jester: i saw your portrait before i saw what you said and i thought "hmm...don't remember seeing this angle ever before" and now i guess i know why! it's sort of like brushing your teeth with your opposite hand, eh? a little game i like to play on myself...
oblio: i really love both of these...your eyes command me not to look away in the first and i love the crookedness of your mouth and craze in yours eyes on the second...
lionel: i like the texture of your hair in this one
daarken: i think you are a monk in this one with your top looking like a robe and the way your hair is brushed...only you have a mischievous look on your face...and you look younger than usual. its very nice
benzo: i dont know what your others look like but this is great! i love how you used the chalk to suggest stubble
jhibbs: something you did on the eyes of this one really caught me the first time i looked at it...the application of them almost gives me that feeling i get when i see the texture and brush strokes on a painting in real life
retro: i love how you've made this one look like a sculpture with such use of line...
blackhawk: this one is so different from what im used to seeing from you... you seem old in it...tired...
December 19th, 2002, 07:04 AM
I can't sleep at all. It sucks, my head hurts, but I can't pass out so it stops. Decided just to do an eye close-up like a few of you did.
December 19th, 2002, 09:26 AM
Tried a fast and loose sketch, "wrong" side again (prismacolor pencil tuscan red).
December 19th, 2002, 10:05 AM
Everyone is doing awesome. I tried to use the tubist brush last night...it was a disaster...it's hard to use that brush. Android uses it to perfection. Oh well...try again...here is a close up too...don't worry they are small files. 28k and 15k.
December 19th, 2002, 05:36 PM
BENZO - HAPPY BIRTHDAY !
comments tomorow, ok?
P.S. - do you know keyth's address - i want to send a butt kicking commando. POST SOMETHING YOU LAZY... KEYTH! :eek:
December 19th, 2002, 06:00 PM
ooohhhhh! Oblio I love the left one, with the orange dealies on there. Nice touch!:)
December 20th, 2002, 12:16 AM
alright! i'm back! just moved back home and have been busy setting stuff up here. i've been really busy, so much to do; grad school applications, puttin my website up, putting a portfolio together, tryin to find a job! anyway, mindcandyman gave me a glimpse of a thunderdome pic of his, so i figured i'd do a little terminator red eye
oblio: those are cool, i definatey like that bright orange on there!
mindcandy: interesting lookin brush, looks hard to control.
jester: proportions look right on in this one, looks like you are getting a much better handle on them
blackhawk: great painting of the eye, i really like the direction of your lines under the eye
jhibbs; great stuff as usual! you've been really pluggin along with these portraits
ilex: i like the red..the eyes look a little big in this one though. nice job on the hair, i like!
benzo: great look portrait, i can tell you spent more time on it, its nicely rendered
daarken: the thing that i really like about this one is the way you've used white, very slight and simple but it adds a lot. oh, and Academy of Art called me today, had a nice chat with a lady there and its one of my top choices for grad school!
December 20th, 2002, 03:49 AM
probably the last one for the next 2 weeks, as i'm on vacation. have a merry christmas.
@oblio: nice one! also send that guys over to keyth' house, i wanna see some pieces :)
@blackhawk: you're right, there're even more mistakes, shifting the head is always a problem of mine.
December 20th, 2002, 03:54 AM
i'm drunk...its my birthday.........thats what yagermeister does to you............:chug:
December 20th, 2002, 04:18 AM
tonight i marked someone for life. sometimes i can smell the blood on the papertowels. i always forget to ask if the others smell it too.
December 20th, 2002, 05:23 AM
Keep it up everyone
December 20th, 2002, 06:24 AM
Ilex - Yeah, I do feel tired. That's what my eyes feel like all the time, and look like to some extent :D These last two are interesting, I find myself trying to find out the meaning behind them, especially the first with the blood on the mouth and what looks to me to be blood splotches around the eyes. Very nicely done.
Jester - Proportions are looking better. Try to work more form into your linework though. Right now it feels like it's coming out flat. Some lineweight variation alone can help to push and pull pieces of the face back and forth and give some more dimension. Keep it up bud.
MindCandyMan - I've tried that brush before. Let's just say it ended in an absolute disaster of monumental proportions :D
Oblio - Very nicely done with these two. The one with the orange inter-mixed has a very dynamic feeling to it. I wish I knew Keyth's address, he needs to get his butt back in here :) Come on Keyth, you know you wanna...
ZippZopp - Thanks. Sweet work man, very well done. The eyes especially came out great. The facial hair is flattening out the face though, be careful in that spot.
Retro - It's a problem of mine too. I need to learn to get my head in more comfortable positions. I end up starting a pose where I have to constantly turn my head to do my SP's and everything goes to hell quickly. Have a great Christmas bud. Hopefully you can pop in sometime in the next 2 weeks, it's great having you regularly post again.
Benzo - Happy Birthday :D
Mr. Brian - Welcome back :) Nicely done again.
December 20th, 2002, 05:14 PM
well, not really.
This is the last spod I'm going to post for the rest of this year since I'm off to Sweden tomorrow. Because I have packed all my favourite art materials already, I did my second attempt of drawing myself in Painter. This might be a bit blue ;) but I'm quite proud of it. Different angle, different medium - but even that nose came out quite well I think. The tools I chose were square chalk and pencil.
Have a wonderful Xmas everybody, a great New Year's Eve and I hope to see all of you on the 6th or 7th January 2003 again!
December 20th, 2002, 07:07 PM
my eyes are burned out...
comment later.. k?
December 20th, 2002, 07:26 PM
i wish i would manage it to post more often...
this forum is the best,.
December 20th, 2002, 09:34 PM
I need to rush of to bed. Am tired so rushed this one especally at the end. Am still strugling with my drawing :/.
December 20th, 2002, 10:17 PM
December 21st, 2002, 02:26 AM
today i locked myself and two puppies outside of a house... and it was snowing. i was amazed that even without a coat on i wasn't cold.
December 21st, 2002, 05:52 AM
super quick: weird mood, red wine, slippery china marker
December 21st, 2002, 08:28 AM
:( my last attempt, I'm not really pleased because I feel going into details and blending and such isnt really an improvement, in fact it looks plastic and lifeless imho.. I use Oil Pastels in Painter 7 and still didnt find the oil paint 'look'.. proportion wise however I think I improved for the lower part of the face squarer jaw, mny previous portrait look more like 'van gogh' than me :p
miasmask - some funny shapes and cool eyes
ilex - ooO an elf!
zippzopp look more solid overall I'd say it lacks color variation accross the face
Lionel if you squint your eyes you;ll see most of the 'cross hatch' you do is faint and kinda disappear, be more bold with it, think just like when you paint, if its dark there, be bold with the lines and make it strong and darker
Mr Brian I'm not particularly fond of this type of rendering, but it is very solid and really good, you seem pretty confident with proportions
retro002 I think you draw too generic. I can't really tell what you look like from any of your portraits, because you dont draw any specific features of your own face. I have read some of your posts over at 'livingline' or something, where you argue with 'kaini' and I think that to get loose is actually something that comes with experience and skill, thats why I dont worry too much about it right now, I dont think being 'loose' is a product of drawing a lot of wavy lines. Over at sijun craig mullins refered to those as 'motor lines' , lines that you draw without much thinking. Every line has got to say something, if it's there for fashion it's useless imho.. anyways thats my opinion I may be entirely wrong about that but I think you could improve a lot by trying to slow down and going for a clean line, at least for a little while it should be very useful, I hope this is a useful comment anyways
December 21st, 2002, 09:29 AM
I went past fifty
this one is 52 I think if I don't count the unposted ones. the viewer right eye strayed a bit and I couldn't stay off the magenta again :)
faB interesting comments about the lines. I guess it applies to anything shapes, colours brush strokes as well.
I promise masses of comments later
December 21st, 2002, 11:36 AM
Well... ..yeah... .here it is....
Was up nearly 24 hours when this was done.. <ulp> hopefully that explains the squallid color.
December 22nd, 2002, 01:52 AM
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