December 2002 Guest SP

[faB]

Nice colors [b]Blackhawk[b]! That's the more painterly feel I'd like to achieve (and less literal than my stuff btw :P). Do you still use 'Oil Pastel' in Painter ?

[ilex]

the best part of my vacation is when everyone else goes to sleep and i get to be alone.

http://www.botticeli.com/portraits/12.21.02.JPG

[Oblio]

talk later.. ok?


Blackhawk, ilex.. EVERYONE.. GRAT STUFF HERE!

Keep it up.
I'll be back later for more comments....

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/21Dec.jpg

Oblio

[Lionel]

Great stuff everyone apoligies for the lack of coments but I still got some drawing to do ;)

Here is a quick sketch to get me of my arse and stop watching tv. I really should burn the tv :).
http://raq626.uk2net.com/~lionel/me65.JPG

[Oblio]

How on earth do i get to post again here - where are the replies?
Where are you people?

COMME ON! DON't GET THE OBLIO SAD....

couse he'll cut out a finger out of each...

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/22Dec.jpg

22December... on a day like this. in 1989 we've got rid of the comunists... :evilbat: FUCK EM! i love to be free... and able to know you guys.

Now.. the comments i've prommised.

@ilex - bad girl - where's your reply? nice sp!
@fab - bad boy - where your sp? :D I love your last one - maybe too much contrast on your hair.. but otherwise.. it looks so clean i envy you! take care on those dark accents.. they are a bit strong i think.

@Blackhawk - bad boy - where your sp? your last - a good eye, a bad eye.. some nice colors some.. i don't like too much. I love the part under your left eye (my right) - there's a smell of green around there. Lovely. How are you lately?

@Groovie - hey.. what a change... keep it up.
Oh i've forgot - : bad boy - where your sp?

@Mia - bad girl - where sp? :D lovely colors but you still have some problems with your proportions. I know that measureing sucks but.. it's such a must - your eyes seem too big, and the jaw a bit large... measure.. here.. size does matter :p


[edit] - Ha.. LIONEL .. you've posted while i was typing... GOOOD BOY. You're getting at it. Try more hatch, thinner, or a cleaner version.
oblio

[Lionel]

Oblio: Slow progress but I will get there in the end :)

I colored it.
http://raq626.uk2net.com/~lionel/me66.JPG

[faB]

Oblio damn you're absolutely right about the contrast of the hair, I didnt really notice it, it probably has removed a lot of the realistic effect of the whole piece. As for the cleanliness I'm not sure it's a plus, it was good practice though, I just got carried away with it. I think what I tried and failed, in fact is to put in just the minimum amount of crispness to give the eye something to grasp, because if I blend everything even with the edges clean, it feels muddy. If I render everything clean I suppose it is not bad, but there is a lot of it that doesnt really add something... anyways.. lots to explore in future sp's
thx for kicking our butt btw, I'll try to post one tonight :)
Lionel you're really improving with your paintings, it's much more solid also since you put the neck & bust and ditched that white bacground and 'floating' head. I would just watch that gray you use in the white of the eye and the teeth, as you did on a previous sp as well, those are probably not so desaturated, they are probably beige, or slightly redish around the corner of the eye etc.. also watch the black in eyebrows and hair, good job! And yeah, TV is evil, I dont have one at home, but then I have the same problem with damned internet :)
ilex that is a nice sp btw, nice feathers

[jhibbs]

hey everyone, just so you know i didnt drop off the face of the earth, i brought my computer home just to keep up but forgot my modem (still had the ethernet card in cuz we're on LAN at school). and the other computers (ie, the one im on) suck. if i manage to get my modem ill try to post but otherwise ill noce again have a huge amount upon my return. :P

[benzo]

Everyone's been makin kickass ports!
Oblio-you got my blood boiling and inspired me to make one...thx!
Fuck the Communists!!!!

http://www.rsad.edu/~bsprout/portrait8.jpg

[faB]

benzo good one, interesting use of paper texture! I wonder how you managed some of the shapes with the pressure on the stylus

here's mine for today :) hopefully less 'stiff;' than my previous attempt. There's a little problem with the eyes when I reverse the picture, I don't know if it's very obvious to others when you first see it? I thought I'd spoil the thing if I kept tweaking around too much.
http://web.wanadoo.be/def46/img-posts/painter/autoportrait-20021223-1.jpg
~faB

[ELWOOD]

Just haveing some fun in Photoshop. http://www.rsad.edu/~draulers/self12-20-02.jpg

[ilex]

i like my freckles, dammit!!!

http://www.botticeli.com/portraits/12.22.02.JPG

oblio you're so hard on us!! hehe j/k... i love your energy!

fab this is my favorite of yours....your others seem so...i dont know... detached(?) ... if i want to see photographic depictons of people i'll look at photos..i want more...this one has the more that i want to see in sp's... this one is definitelyh not "plastic and lifeless"

elwood i dont see a picture??

oh blah i dont have any energy to respond to all the sp's...

[retro002]

um. had to work today.

http://free.pages.at/retro002/portrait_selbst117.jpg

http://free.pages.at/retro002/portrait_selbst118.jpg

fab: yes, i should slow down. i have too little patience. :(

[Blackhawk]

I really screwed this one up. Trying angled head poses in the mirror is not a good thing. I think I hit two different head angles at the same time on this one, which = CRAP!

http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod95.jpg

Oblio - Talk cryptic much eh? lol! Sorry, I'm doing crappy and horrible, all rolled up into one tasty bun with a side of crap. How are you?

My last one I didn't like, I really pooched the eyes on it. Just like this recent one. I think I travelled back in time 2 months. I need to start observing better when doing these, I'm getting lazy on the eyes.

Ilex - Nice job on these, they feel fuzzy though, I don't think your getting hard enough edges on some of these. A good mix of soft and hard edges will really liven up your SP's.

Fab - Good man, don't tweak too much. Or else it'll end up like my crap. Whenever you start to hit areas 2 or 3 times over, they lose the flow that the rest of the piece had and they just turn out looking wrong, no matter how much you try to fix it. So get it right from the start :D Something I'm guilty of not doing at all :(

Retro - Some individual likenesses are starting to show through, second one has some weird angles and proportions issues. I think the nose on the second one is what did it.

Elwood - No pic :(

Lionel - Nice work, try using the hatch to conform to face curvature though, it may help to give some form and pop to the features and valleys of the face. The colored one turned out very nice.

Benzo - Nice work, interesting texture, the nose form is bugging me though. The rest of it is nice.

Jhibbs - There you are :D Post again, please.

Night everyone, may be hard for me to post for the next 3 days, but I will be doing SP's, so expect a nice, new steamy batch on your doorsteps later this week.

[faB]

ilex still look like an elf, teehee ;) glad you find that sp not so 'plastic' then, I'll probably try more of that, I love to keep my lines, the reason I get less expressive is partly due to the fact that I still dont feel confident with proportions it;s still a fight each sp to get something that looks like me sometimes after the first 10 min I'd want to throw it away because there's no likeness at all, then I cool down and start looking more, aligning features vertically and horizontally till it's 'ok'. I've found that confidence actually plays a part in it, if you stress about it you dont pay attention to what you do and proportions get bad, if you forget about achieving something, then the 'flow' kicks in and eventually it comes out :)

btw for your last sp, Id say there's a lack of feel of the head shape on the back of the head, could be the short neck or the shape of the hair,colorscheme is nice, maybe a bit dark around the nose if you squint your eyes

retro002 last sp I can see someone there, the shape of the nose, and the mouth on the 2nd, the 2nd is nice. As for patience, I find it relaxing, after the first 20 min or so, when I forget about achieving something and well, basically shut up my mind :) As for my last comments on line, I think 'Bridgeman's Drawing from Life' explains much better than me. I didnt htink much of his book at first, becuase his drawings are very 'rough' and yet, they do tell a lot, he explains very well how 'contour' lines describe the forms that make the anatomy, and how these forms combine together etc.

blackhawk yup difficult angle, think you overlooked the 3/4 proportions on that one (larger on one side)

elwood no pic :/

sorry if I didnt reply to your sp, I m just lazy, I try to comment on different people every now and then
I talk too much
*run away*

[Eclipsen]

http://eclipsenex.besocecho.com/sp1start.jpg

My first ever attempt at freehand drawing myself. I now admire all of your work at a different level after seeing how difficult it is. It was fun and I'd like to stick with self portraits.

I know there are a lot of suggestions, but hearing them from other people would help me a lot more. So, please, tell me how to improve. :)

[benzo]

http://www.rsad.edu/~bsprout/portrait9.jpg

the colour and the shape

i promise will have comments soon for all

[Oblio]

ye.. we're rollin...

hey... it's almost x-mass.. i've been talking to Santa all evening and... damn we had some nice tea and a great chat.. i've even help him pack few things (and let me tell you some of you have prepared some pervert gifts :D) but in the end.. he told me somethng like:
"oh.. and let that kid that lies in you get out a little"

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/23Dec.jpg

@benzo - whoa - last one.. wow - lovely color & so. I don't remember seing a very realistic SP from you. I remember some nice renders but your proportions seem always ... exagerated. I mightbe wrong though. Anyway.. fuck em :D

@eclipsen - hey.. welcom to the sick club (gorup hug) - try to dig a thread called "schoolyard" in the drawing from life sector - the great Jon Foster has some advice for SP's. Also Andrew (android) has a tutorial - dig into the depths of SPOD .
Looking for the next one.

@blackhawck - LOL - what a cute SP :D nice rendered nose :p how am i? well.. i love x-mass - i'm not sure if a've mentioned around but.. i have a kid (adopted from the street) and also this x-mass a little girl has joined my house and i'm busy hiding presents until THAT night, and stuff. Real fun. I'm dangerously low on money but.. hey.. i'll get back on track soon.. right? :eek: :desperate: :D

@retro#number - ah.. the little Bethoven of the pencil... put that smoke away :p :D

@ilex.. Ilex.. please.. don't be sad.. i love to see you smile... It's just that your sp's are so loose and so.. "painted" that it's hard for me to dig you under - i find your mood, your dreams, your slow desire.. but i can not find you.
I would like to see one where you focus on the eyes and work on them until ther stare back to you.. then.. work some more and unveil yourself.. it would be a great pleasure for me to meet you there :bow:

@fab - mr. loose tone/sharp lines - you forgot to draw some guide lines and your face just twisted. In the begining i used to draw marks on the mirror in order to place my head on the same spot.
Here... http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/fab.jpg

See you tomorow -

Oblio

[Eclipsen]

Hmmm, tried a little different syle...

http://eclipsenex.besocecho.com/colorover1.jpg

Oblio - thanks for showing me that thread, it'll help a lot. ;)

[Blackhawk]

http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod96.jpg

[benzo]

blackhawk-i really like this one, it has so manyinteresting areas! much better than the last
eclipsen-keep it up!

oblio-merry x-mass to you and your adopted kids! your ports keep getting better and you're inspiring a lot of us:D

retro002- i know these are fast but as long as they are that loose i like them

ilex- good work!

fab- your last two or three have been great, but this is my favorite. it is only lacking in some areas you rushed, like the the zig-zags on your chin and cheek. have more patience in those marks and it will make so much difference. btw- i've been to brussels...there's nothing like being drunk as you walk into the Grand Place at night lighted up to music for the first time:chug:

http://www.rsad.edu/~bsprout/portrait10.jpg
the bucs lost tonite in the first five minutes of the game

[ilex]

oblio: bad boy. almost make me cry. here is my start - im willing to go down this road. i started with the eyes but forgot to work on them until they stared back at me...they shifted away..

http://www.botticeli.com/portraits/12.23.02.JPG


comments later i promise

[Blackhawk]

Fab - Yeah, I screwed up my conte one. My head shifted in the middle of establishing the shapes and it was crappy the rest of the way.

Eclipsen - Welcome. Be mindful of feature placement. I'm guilty of the same sin in my portraits, it's just a matter of observing more carefully and making measurements to make sure everything is sticking together where it should be. Follow Oblio's suggestion and check out those two threads. I'll dig through Andrew's SP to find the demo thread for you. It's very helpful. Keep them coming.

Benzo - The texture on this one is sweet as hell. A very original rendering, almost like film burn spots peeking through in sections. Very sweet. Great job.

Ilex - Very nicely done. Seems like the nose and mouth are on a slightly different angle from the eyes. Other than that, excellent rendering. I think this is the first realistic try at a rendering that I've seen you do and it came out quite nicely. If I remember correctly, you said a month or two ago how you were incapable of doing realistic :D You've proved yourself wrong.

Oblio - I can definitely feel your exuberance in this SP. Just the way your head is perked up like a rabbit who just caught sight of a carrot. It's a great thing your doing bringing in kids and giving them a great Christmas. I hope the best for you man.

Tomorrow night may be slim for me. I'll try for a Santa SP, but I lost access to a scanner and painter for a few days, so this'll be rough. If I can't get to this thread tomorrow, I just want to wish everyone a Wonderful Christmas.

[Oblio]

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/24Dec.jpg

comments later

Ilex - oh.. you are making me cry now - becouse:
1 - I HATE making people cry (unles i do something that beautifull :D)
2 - you are kicking my but big time - that hair render is superb and... nevermind - see? you're doing it with style - talk later friend... thank you and.. sorry for any inconvenience. If you want me to do ANYTHING to make it up.. i will.. (no.. NOT THAT.. NOOOOOO ) :eek:

BH - marry x-mass friend! see you soon here.. ok?


later... later.... ho ho ho

ho-blio

[ilex]

blackhawk: you were right about the fuzziness of my recent sps...i was concerned about it too...im on a smaller monitor than usual and ive been painting them at less than 100% and then blowing them up so thats part of my problem...but i won't be doing that anymore! thank you for what you said about my recent one and for remembering what i said so long ago! i really enjoyed your most recent sp...something about the orange and the way you left the one eye undone...

benzo: you look like you're very stiff when posing for your portraits! heeh

ho ho ho-blio: the expressions on your last two really crack me up!! you seem to be having some fun there... you didn't make me want to cry out of sadness or inconveniences! im happy for your criticisms and suggestions because they make me want to learn and be better and i just want to say thank you!!

happy hollydays

[Eclipsen]

http://eclipsenex.besocecho.com/day2colorover.jpg

Pretty happy with this. Put a pic right next to my work space, few things I could improve on, but I'll keep getting better.

Blackhawk - thanks for the suggestions. I appreciate any help.

Just want to say all these portraits are great and all are very inspiring. ;)

[faB]

bleh.
http://home.tiscali.be/def46/img-posts/painter/autoportrait-20021225.jpg

[miasmak]

just in case his Oblioness won't give me any presents for being a bad girl I tried to measure this time. 2 using 2B pencil in Painter and a coloured version of the 2nd one. I am not too excited about the coloured version to quote faB bleh.

http://www.o2w.nl/~maia/sp/spod40-1s.jpg
http://www.o2w.nl/~maia/sp/spod41-2s.jpg
http://www.o2w.nl/~maia/sp/spod41-4s.jpg

faB, its the uncut mustard colour that seems bleh to me, also the colour in the beard seems unrelated. The expression is cool though

eclipsen, welcome, realistic one this last one, how about some more tonal range in the face, the background seems too black

oblio, thank you for the prodding just what I needed

ilex, beautiful, don't be sad this one sings albeit a sad song

benzo, interesting different style experiments I like the colour and shape one best.

blackhawk, loose and ORANGE. I love it! now that isn't a very useful comment is it, maybe tone down the texture on the smooth parts of the face a bit to help with volume,

oblio, love your surprised one, loose and accurate

lionel, you are really makeing good progress the coloured one lookes fresh

sorry for those I missed ...

[Oblio]

so.. how were your gifts?
i'm so glad to see there are still people around when everybody else is hiding under the tree :D

i've tried again a realistic one - i wanted to be simathetic with ilex - and a damn hard thig it was.
I'll quote fab too : BLEAH!!!

I've erased the whole thing for about 5 times and still couldn't make it right - i'm also having problems with my wacom so... it was a frustrating one - but.. a big thank you to ilex for making me try this.
I'll keep going this path.

Ugh.. it's realy late here.. i have to sleep now - see you tomorow people!
KEEP IT UP!

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/25Dec.jpg

@mia - :bow: RESPECT! :D (isn't it more fun like this? no?? it will come to you :D)

@fab- here we go :D very nice tilt there - small problems though: 1 - your hair is looking towards me!! :D 2 - nose bridge a bit off - right between the eyes. 3 - try working the eyes a bit more - also eyeline is diferent from the nose,mouth and chin line. 3 - a bit too saturated (the color mia was talking - but here is a matter of taste & mood)

@eclipsen - mia is right - work that value range.

Oblio

[ilex]

http://www.botticeli.com/portraits/12.25.02.JPG

comments lata 8)

[Oblio]

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/26Dec.jpg

another strugled one - 1 hour of furious brushes (open canvas)
My wacom feels beter in Open Canvas (odd :confused: ).
I think i'll go back to traditional tomorow.
How are you people? Having fun?


Yours,

Oblio

[faB]

Tonight I tried to concentrate on masses, going from large to small, and trying to get a maximum with a minimum of 'paint'. Started with Oil Pastel at a large size, and blocked in the head shape, then used smaller and smaller brush size, trying to avoid getting in details too early. Value-wise it's pretty bad though.

http://web.wanadoo.be/def46/img-posts/painter/autoportrait-20021226.jpg

ilex, miasmak, Oblio great work you 3! The effort shows!

miasmak colour version is not so bleh ;) I like, main problem I think is the sides of the face getting a bit confused with the background value wise, for the lower part., the contrast gives it a little punch

Oblio before-last is one of your 'sharpest' ;) feels solid. Your sp's feel a little bit caricatured still.

ilex looks good, lacks a bit value range I think. It feels like hte features are painted on top of the face, a little flat. Look for planes described by the light, & paint them to get the feel of volume.

[ilex]

http://www.botticeli.com/portraits/12.26.02.JPG


i promise promise i will post replies and comments later this evening!!!!!!!

[miasmak]

I feel like I am only drawing self portraits at the moment, am I curable doctor ?!?

ilex, the red one is the best one so far, I like the bits in the cheek with the bit more saturation. good volumes on the upper lip.

faB, mmm the forehead isn't looking so big anymore, I think the proportions on this one is pretty good, the colour isn't as pukey as the bleh one either. The ear seems a bit low, but it may be the angle of the face, also the coarse highlights on the forehead don't fit the otherwise clean feel.

Oblio, now you have the big forehead on your last one. I like the one before the last one for it's intense expression. Of course it is better if I measure, it's just that after I have done all the measureing I sometimes don't have the energy/interest left to work on the pic anymore (excuses.excuses)

hopefuly an inspired sp later ...

[miasmak]

faB's mustard, featuring gekitsu's Painter brush variants: veltvet bristle they fear, gekipencils and sketch brushes.
http://www.o2w.nl/~maia/sp/spod42-5s.JPG

[faB]

looks good, miasmak, more volume and slightly more precise, hair does not look flat. That's more saturated , works better than the desaturated color I used. I was actually playing with the idea of saturation contrast, saturated light, desaturated shadow.. I'll try again sometime..

http://web.wanadoo.be/def46/img-posts/painter/autoportrait-20021227.jpg

[Oblio]

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/27Dec.jpg

uf.. a lot of work lately and barely have time for SP. Fortunately i manage to do some drawing now and then and well.. i hope i'll get any better.
Yours frustrated OBLIO!

Oh.. i am so proud of each and every one of you - managing to put your SP's here in a time like this realy shows devotion and i love devotion! Thank you for those moments.

[Grooveholmes]

Crackin' good girl! That last submission of yours is great. Congrats. :beer: Although I have to fulkin scroll to view the whole image(Out of town on a relatives machine right now.. and the monitore res is locked to 640x480 somehow.) I like the way you handled the eyelashes, they're always one of my big stumbling blocks. But, where are the freckles?:

[ilex]

grooveholms: wow thanks!! i understand about the scrolling...i've been doing these on my laptop with a slightly smaller monitor but im doing them as big as i can so they'll be close to normal when i get home....im also thinking my screen is more washed out than my usual computer so i might be in for a surprise when i get home!! dammit! i forgot my freckles!

oblio: your face is so intense! in your last two your one eye is done in so much detail and more crisply than the other that it's hard to look at the rest of the image...im not sayingthat's a bad thing....

fab: this one is interesting...i dont think it's finished? but the way you got the reflection on the table and the tablet is nice. you're right about my green one..it is very flat..i was being very lazy onthat one

mia: nice job! the eyes seem unfinished (?) but i really love the texture you've got going on and great job on the hair! ...are those custom brushes then?

mmmm. okie. off to work now!!

[ZippZopp]

i've been so busy with getting my grad school applications and portfolios together, as well as with christmas. haven't had much time to paint, but i've been doing a lot in the sketch book. the first two were done in a car, from the back seat, looking into the rear view mirror...pretty tough to do a portrait that way.

more to come soon

http://www2.trincoll.edu/~czoppi/drawings/dec24.jpg

http://www2.trincoll.edu/~czoppi/drawings/dec25.jpg

http://www2.trincoll.edu/~czoppi/drawings/dec26.jpg

ilex: i love that style you've got goin, they all look fanstastic!

faB: good work, i like the way you've started this new one. i need to start tryin to paint, rather than draw then paint over! keep it up!

oblio: great stuff as usual, no crits. good to see you goin steady with these

miasmak: very cool portraits you're doing. keep it up!

[Oblio]

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/28Dec.jpg

@ilex - where are you? Don't quit now :D
@ZippZopp - man.. i know that was hard - i've done some in car sp's sketches myself too. Loose that hairy line. (i should be the last to talk about such a messy line). Anyway.. from experience.. DON'T DRIVE AND DRAW! Bad habbit :D
@fab - last one is great - i love the chemise and the shadow your head casts on it. Also i like the details on the ear. A dificult pose too... :bow:

Yours always

OBLIO

[redon634]

http://www.wetcanvas.com/web/sites/16031/pollockmtncg/images/spod122802.jpg

This is what I'll look like when I'm sixty! (I'm only 45 now - a real granma compared to most of you I have a feeling - didn't know Xmas had taken that much out of me). Thought I'd better post something even tho it's none too good, since it's been a month. Done in ZBrush15

Here's my comments for page 15 - faB - I like the first one best. Things always seem to turn out better when concentrating on the masses rather than the details (now if only I'd take my own advice).
ilex - very nice! Lot's of expression.
miasmak - good one. I know that feeling "if I don't blink.."
oblio - I like your second line drawing it seems looser than the other two

[ilex]

freckles groovey freckles!!!!

http://www.botticeli.com/portraits/12.28.02.JPG

[Blackhawk]

Excellent work everyone. How was everyone's Christmas? I have a few I did over my hectic Christmas holiday that I will scan in and post tomorrow. This is just one I did tonight as I finally got on my old machine back again :D

http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod97.jpg

Ilex - Wonderful work. I'm extremely impressed with the ones you've done the last few days. Great job.

Oblio - Great work. Forehead is getting on the large side on a few of these, but your persistence is admirable.

Redon - Welcome, always good to see a new face, especially since this forum has slowed down quite a bit. My only crit is the face seems too fuzzy. Some hard edges in this piece will help give the eye a place to hold onto.

Fab - I really liked your last two. Blocking in your pieces has really helped to bring a more painterly feel to them. Great job.

Mia - Your last one is great. The measuring has really helped to pull your face together.

Zipp - Drawing while in the car... hmmm, sounds like fun. Hopefully you can make a return soon and get back to portraits more consistently again.

[Rusty]

woops shouldve read through this forum properly b4 i posted up a new thread,ah well im new here..b nice :P

very very nice SP`s evryone lots of skill & talent here,this is exactly the kinda website ive been trying to look 4..

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2593

c u....

[Oblio]

well.. i've managed to take some pics of my ugly mug - here is a quick SP done after one of them. Expect more soon.

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/29Dec.jpg

RUSTY &REDON - WELCOME TO THE SICK PLACE! :D Just in time to end the december thread with glory.

I'm so sorry i couldn't find the time to comment on you guys the way i should. I will have to excuese myself again but i will surely find a night to dedicate in this area.

BH - you're getting old :eek: oh.. and your face seems longer. You were right about my long forehead... um.. i guess i'm under a lot of pressure those days :D
Tell me .. what brush is that?

Ilex - one of your best! Keep it up girl!

Oblio

[miasmak]

welcome rusty, redon
rusty, can't see anything

redon, ZBrush huh, I've always found Zbrush difficult to control, but that's just me I think, bit blurry I thought it was Jpg compression problem at first, otherwise good stuff

ilex, fantastic, you captured a luminous skin quality and texture, yeah freckles groovey freckles, it makes this one. as for the brushes, yes they are custom, made by gekitsu, who posts here too. You can find them and more at idd http://www.critical-depth.com/painter/

blackhawk, I'd say good stuff, but I've seen you do better though ...

Oblio, interesting angle doesn't look like you've used a photo

Zipp, keep going, perhaps more varied line quality to get more interst

[Rusty]

dammit..sorry,im just a newb to HTML and websites.....see if this link works...i did this SP the same way i made my other(mirror on desk,photoshop,mouse)
around 40 mins to do,still needs to be finished but im way to lazy to finish it..

http://www.geocities.com/rustyrulzr/index.html

or this link
http://www.geocities.com/rustyrulzr/

slow ass server so you may have to wait a while 4 pic to download..

C U.....

[ilex]

http://www.botticeli.com/portraits/12.29.02.JPG

comments later....

[daarken]

blackhawk: i just wanted to say that the sp you have as your avatar is amazing. you have inspired me to paint again. great work.

[Oblio]

Today my girlfriend has turned 21.
I had to rush this a bit (photo ref again - don't like to work from photo :( )

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/30Dec.jpg

It feels stupid to sit at the computer when such a beauty waits for me in bed... :jawdrop: :inlove:
I'll comment later if i'll be able to :rolleyes: :D


Oblio

[miasmak]

interrupted one, done with watercolour in Painter, When I came back to it the light had changed completely (sigh) so I just stopped.
http://www.o2w.nl/~maia/sp/spod43-2s.JPG

We'll since I am the first to post in the ... uhm ... pregnant silence after Oblio, :happybirt: Oblio's girl, you treat her good regularly and she'll let you do many more self portraits ...

daarken, yeah, paint again please

[MindCandyMan]

Hi everyone...back from the holidays

Yeah....pregnant silence indeed....no pun intended right hehe

http://www.imagemagician.com/images/elephantdiarrhe/Paintingx69xCyborgxHeadxsp.jpg


I am a cyborg

[Blackhawk]

Sorry I missed last night. I was drawing hands for 4 hours and I lost track of time.

http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod98b.jpg

I could have done a lot better with the colors on this one, it flattened out, especially around the eyes.

Oblio - I like these last two, especially the nose on the very last one. Congrats on your GF's 21. I turn 21 in about 3 months. Geesh, this been the slowest year for me. Oh, Oblio, to answer your question from my last SP, I used the oil pastel brush.

Mia - I always try to do better, I'm never satisfied with my work though, I keep finding new things wrong with each one. This last one looks like a good start, you should finish through with it and use your imagination to liven it up a bit.

Daarken - Thanks Daarken :) Throw a few more SP's our way, come on, you know you want to :D

Rustry - Awesome man, I really like this one a lot.

Ilex - Nice job, the left eye became a tad large though, Watch out for size and proportions, concentrate and be mindful of what your seeing. I need to do the same thing :D

MindCandyMan - I'm getting a red X bud, plus an MSN communities box keeps popping up.

Great job everyone.

[Rusty]

heres another one i sketched out on photoshop 5.0 and hung a mirror next to the monitor...around 40 mins to do,it ended up with a rugged realism look to it,and of course couldnt forget my smoke .:)and my fave sweater which is full of holes.:p ..... ....I need to get this painter program i keep hearing you guys talk about,is it Abobe as well?..

heres the link,ya have to wait a little 4 pic to load,slow server..
http://www.geocities.com/rustyrulzr/selfportraits1/index.html

I love looking at everyones individual style here,very inspiring...

nd ta ta

[ZippZopp]

i've been sick the past few days, finally got around to painting again, i'm tryin really hard to get back to one a day!

http://www2.trincoll.edu/~czoppi/drawings/dec30.jpg

this was done in painter 7 with captured bristle, but i'm still getting a somewhat muddy feel in my paintings...i don't get it!! its driving me crazy!

blackhawk: awesome portraits! they look fantastic! the red one you posted a day ago is awesome! what brush are you using in painter? your paintings have a similar brush look.

mindcandy: looking good, you've done a great job with wrapping those pink lights around the head and adding the reflections, gives it nice depth

oblio: i like the sunglasses! cool stuff

ilex: great style in your latest portrait, but the left eye looks a little bit too big compared to the other and the rest of the face.

[miasmak]

http://home.o2w.net/~maia/sp/spod43-4s.JPG

Blackhawk, thanks for the vote of confidence on the previous one this morning the light was the same again. Your sp looks accurate, I like the purple shirt. Since the colour in the background is so saturated, the face seems a bit insipid and my attention is drawn to the background instead, this may be just me.

ZippZopp, good to hear you aren't too sick to draw, I have found muddiness happening when I blend too much. Maybe try to do one using only 2 contrasting colours say blue and orange and their value ranges.

Ahh Mindcandyman is back, form the borg this time, like the purple highlights on the face and the nose

Rusty, I could see your previous one with IE but not Opera and a can't see your second one, the first one looks verrry good considering it was done with a mouse. Corel makes Painter under the label Procreate. go to www.procreate.com

[MindCandyMan]

miasmak - that one is awesome. One of your best ones in my opinion. Great job.

zipp - I like the lighting on this last one you did. Try starting with a larger canvas and working down from there...work zoomed in and then pull out. See if that helps

blackhawk - This one is awesome. I love how you use the sharp chalk tool...makes it look very painterly. I love the muted colors you used for the skin tones...drop in a dark complimentary color for the background to make your portrait pop out. Awesome work though bro...I saw your mercenary sketch too...do more of those hehe...I've only seen your portraits.

rusty - Nice man...I am really drawn to the eyes in this portrait. Great pose too...good job

oblio - I love the last one you did...has a great 3d feel to it...good job.

daarken - let's see some man. I want more lift off paintings...you rock at those.

ilex - Your self portraits have been really really good lately. Great job.

[Oblio]

well... i'm a bit over 150 SP's now... and let me tell you what a crazy year this was.
For me 2002 is the year i've started to draw/paint and the year i've got to know so many GREAT people.
I thank you for each superb moment you contribuited.

HAVE A GREAT 2003!!!

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/31Dec.jpg

Oil pastes ;)

MCM - welcome back cyborg :D
Mia - Thank you - i'll do my best. I love her like crazy (i met her in her late 17 and we're together still. If i could press "PAUSE" i will :D)

Blackhawk - this one is to you (again). Thank you.
ZippZopp - keep it up mate!

EVERYONE - Keyth :realmad:, Daarken :bash: and all the other ones - HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR!

Yours,

Andrei Fantana (Oblio)

[Lionel]

Should be back home tommorow :)

p.s. I know this is poo but was very quick :)
http://raq626.uk2net.com/~lionel/me67.JPG

[ilex]

http://www.botticeli.com/portraits/12.31.02.JPG

happy new year:bash:

[Blackhawk]

HAPPY NEW YEARS!

Whew, what a year. I can honestly look back and say that this was the most productive year of my life artistically. I give my thanks to everyone on here who have helped me so far and who have inspired me, especially a big thanks to Andrew. I don't think I would have seen the growth I've seen without the inspiration he provided with a Self-Portrait a day. So to you Andrew, if your reading this, I thank you and a happy new year to you, I hope all will be well for you and everyone else on here in 2003.

Time to start the New Year with a sputter :D
http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod99.jpg

ZippZopp - Get your butt in gear and start cranking one a day again. (I've been lazy to though :P) For the last few SP's, I've been using the Oil Pastel brush, actually 3 versions of it that I modified and saved to give me a different look and use. I really like the oil pastel a lot, it's becoming my favorite brush to work with. Nice job, watch out for the abrupt hairline though, soften it up a bit.

Mia - BEAUTIFUL! My favorite of yours, hands down. After seeing this one I just had to try watercolors on mine today. It was a fun experiment, I was lost the entire time I did it :D but it was fun nonetheless. As for my last SP, I noticed the same thing, as others have suggested, I needed to get a different color on that BG, it bled into the face too much and kind of obscurred it. Lesson learned :D

MindCandy - Lol, my mercenary was a hideous monstronsity. After posting it, I was saying to myself "Why the hell did I just post that?" :D Nice job on your last one, I see it now. Are you still submitting to the T-Dome? Welcome back man and let's start seeing you regularly again.

Oblio - Awesome, thanks man. I don't know if I deserve 2 sp's from you :), I've only given you one. I'll do a holiday present for you later. Thanks bud.

Lionel - Welcome back :D. Watch out for the hatching on the face, the direction of the hatches is obscuring the form of the face, try one where you use the hatch to follow the form of the face and see what it gives you.

Ilex - A very seductive smirk on this one. Very nicely done. The tip of your nose may be upturned too much though, other than that, great job.

Night everyone, and again, Happy New Years.

[faB]

Well, happy new year everyone,
and LORDY LORD, you've all been KICKING ASS with your last posts !!!
:eek: :eek: :eek:

[miasmak]

ilex, wow this one is so cool too, love the colours magenta being one of my personal favourites and the green clip and earings. Also lovely subtle eye highlights and the freckles are featured again.

blackhawk, those water colours can be a bitch, one brush stroke with the wrong brush and your computer turns into a snail on sleeping pills. You did pretty well though the green in the highlight seems wrong can't put my finger on it. Try this link for friendlier water colour brushes (http://kaburaya.pobox.ne.jp/eng/7waterbrush.htm) and some info.

lionel, good to see you again keep going

Oblio, is melting thanks for pulling me into this forum in the first place

thankyou everyone for teaching me things by example or comment, for pointing out mistakes and for prodding when I was getting lazy. enough mushyness on to 2k3 may it be a great one.:chug:

[Oblio]

The January 2003 thread is on people!!!

ROCK ON! :chug: