View Full Version : Sketches prominant = Not finished?
January 24th, 2011, 01:30 PM
I consider myself a somewhat good drawer, and a learning painter, so when I paint images, I often rely on the sketch to keep it good looking. If I remove the layer of the sketch, things just go odd and gross looking. The sketch provides somewhat of a definition.
My question is, if you can clearly still see the sketch, rough and everything, would you consider the image unfinished?
One of my more recent paintings included for an example.
January 24th, 2011, 03:06 PM
Depends on what the goal of the image is.
January 24th, 2011, 03:07 PM
Nice style - I think the sketch works just fine...but that is just based on the one image. And you might want to use the term 'draftsman"...just sounds better. Post some more stuff - I like what you're doing.
January 24th, 2011, 03:08 PM
yeah why not? I piece is finished when you've made a statement. Level of detail or how rough your application is has nothing to do with quality
January 24th, 2011, 03:41 PM
No, I wouldn't consider it unfinished if you can see the sketch underneath. I happen to like seeing the drawing under the painting. But it really depends on what your end goal is. For this piece, I think it looks great with the drawing visible, and I'm guessing that when you were painting it in Painter, you were painting with that layer visible and so adjusted to incorporate it. Another artist may have started with the same base drawing, but may have opted to go more painterly and would have put down the base colors (low opacity or some blend mode if above the drawing, or put them below so they could be seen), and then added more opaque layers above and painted over it so the drawing was completely hidden. Again, personal preference and goal for the image.
January 24th, 2011, 04:00 PM
Looks fine, but it's finished when it's finished, which is when you say it is. Personally, I'm a big fan and user of integrating the sketch with the paint, but it's mostly a stylistic choice.
January 24th, 2011, 04:04 PM
If, however, you want to push beyond having a sketch in there, try painting over your linework rather than simply turning it off. When your work loses the lines you'll be forced to consider your edges more, as well as the values of the shapes.
January 24th, 2011, 07:43 PM
...you might want to use the term 'draftsman"...just sounds better...
Actually, you should use the word "draughtsman", which looks even cooler than it sounds.
Seriously though, I like the style as it is, as a finished piece.
I'd rethink the white halo though, unless you were going for an edge bleed effect from a strong back light.
That's what I'm seeing it as on her torso, but on her left arm her hair would be blocking that light.
If that's what you were doing.
Either way, I'd say it works with the sketch showing.
That fat kid
January 24th, 2011, 07:58 PM
It looks finished. Which is all that matters as far as stylistic decisions go.
However, the coloring seems to be relying on the value and the direction of the marks within the sketch to maintain the form. The application of "paint" could be doing more.
For instance, the armpit would flatten out considerably if the sketch was turned off. As would the area under the neck, as there's no obvious planar distinctions other than overlap to indicate depth, such as value, saturation or edge control.
But that's just me, you're looking for feedback, and I feel as if specificity can't hurt.
January 25th, 2011, 03:11 AM
I wouldn't consider it unfinished, (though partly depending on how detailed and finished or shoddy the original sketch and the colours, brushwork and other things are) but I would be likely to consider it more like a speed paint, "quick work" in the manner of "I didn't use 20 hours to render this and it's okay".
January 25th, 2011, 01:50 PM
You guys are wonderful, thank you very much for the replies! :D
I'll try put your advice in my future works. :) As for posting my art on ConceptArt, I'm not entirely sure my skills are up to par yet.
January 25th, 2011, 03:02 PM
You have a lovely style going there, so since I pretty much agree with everyone else, I'll tell you that you can put your works up on CA ANYTIME. :D Anytime, any level, just put them in your own Sketchbook thread (in the Sketchbook section), or other appropriate sections (Critique, Finally Finished, etc.) and you're good!
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