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el coro
March 7th, 2004, 02:36 PM
hey conceptorgians! are we all ready for amsterdam. lord knows i am. i've been teaching a nightly workshop at my job to get in practice and get my teaching skillz sharp again. here is a step by step of a sketchbook page. in this demo i will take it to a level of finish traditionally, then take it a step further using the computer. this is an interesting way to work, as you get the best of both worlds, that being nice easy organic brushstrokes and textures that traditional medial lends itself so well for, and the finishing/color correcting power of the computer. i find the trick to using both on a piece is finding the balance between the two, so you get that"how';d he do that?" type reaction. so without further ado, i will start dis byotch off with a pencil drawing, just a light sketch to gat the underpinnings down:
http://www.coro36ink.com/updates/cg%20demo/demo1step1.jpg
itsa really alot lighter than this, i use a hb pencil for this stage, but i bumped up the levels so you can see it.nothing special here. just a simple sketch. once i'm fairly happy with how it looks, i'm ready for the inks. i use pilot hitec c's and a brush pen for this stage.
http://www.coro36ink.com/updates/cg%20demo/demo1step2.jpg
i noodled alot on this part, i was having fun puttin gin the decorative elements. i am really only concerned with the lineweight around the figure, for which i use the brush pen, i use a hi tec c .3 for the costume details. as soon as i have everything penned in, i'm ready for the inkwash:
http://www.coro36ink.com/updates/cg%20demo/demo1step3.jpg
i used a light blue, a grey8, a warm brown and a little green for this stage. i use a broad watercolor brush and lay in the base colors. its dark, but thats okay. its easier to build up the forms that way. you want to go dark, but not so dark you can no longer see whats underneath. i will use fairly middle toned inks, and sometimes apply them twice, as its better than coming with a dark ass wash right off the bat, as you could lose too much of your drawing that way. now its time for colored pencils:
http://www.coro36ink.com/updates/cg%20demo/demo1step4.jpg
now we are beginning to build up the forms and lay in local colors. i also like the scumbling effect the give, as i am careful not to press to hard because i dont want the surface to become too waxy. this stage is great for softer gradations, to turn the form of a leg, for instance, but i refrain from getting into too much detail in this stage as thats what the gouache is for:
http://www.coro36ink.com/updates/cg%20demo/demo1step5.jpg
i use the gouache for details, sharp edges, and for building up where i left off with the colored pencil. i apply the gouache thinly, using a small flat brush, and hit only the parts that either need more detial or a smoother surface, for hard to soft edges, i use a damp clean brush and gently drag the gouache wherever i want it. gouache is nice for its reworkability, you can always reactivate it with a damp brush. make sure its not too wet, though, as you could damage the grain of your paper. at this point, i have all the forms and values laind in to where they at least read like how i want them. so now i scan it, and take it into photoshop: once in ps, i'lll duplicate the layer a couple of times, hue shift/saturate or desatureate the layers individually, and use the add layer mask feture to push and pull whatever areas i want from each layer. as an example, i wanted the area behind her head to be warmer, and just generally wanted to tweak the colors all around:http://www.coro36ink.com/updates/cg%20demo/demo1step6.jpg
in addition, i lengthened her lower legs a bit as they were bugging me. the thing that makes the digital reworking really easy is that all the values and local colors are already there, so all thats left is esablishing focal points, and kinda emballishing on what you already have.in addition, all the marks are there already i dont really do mush digital brushwork on these, as there is no need to. now i'l take it into painter for a minute, and apply speculars on the armor withthe scratchboard tool, and used the glow tool to cool off the color of her skin. as a finishing touch, i went back intop photoshop, duplicated the layer again, made it a multiply layer and add layer masked it, keeping only the darker edges to further push the focal points, i used a custom brush made to look like spraypaint for this, to give it that stippled effect:
http://www.coro36ink.com/updates/cg%20demo/demo1step7.jpg

so i look forward to doing a live demo of this technique in amsterdam, cant wait to meet y'all. oh- here are some full red detail shots of the armor:
http://www.coro36ink.com/updates/cg%20demo/detail01.jpg
http://www.coro36ink.com/updates/cg%20demo/detail02.jpg
notce that its not any one step that makes the difference, more its all of the steps working together. all in all, this probablty took me about 4-5 hours to complete. the black line inking took the longest, as i got cought up having too much fun with it,,.they normally dont take quite that long...again, i look forward to this amsterdam workshop and really hope you all can make it-c36

liquidwerx
March 7th, 2004, 02:41 PM
Sorry, I have nothing to offer other than the typical "good stuff". Have fun in Amsterdam, sure wish I could go.


~Malachi

Renzsu
March 7th, 2004, 03:08 PM
Oh geesh, that's going straight into my references folder! Thanks for posting this! And yeah, Amsterdam will roxorz my soxorz ;) Cya there!

Carnifex
March 7th, 2004, 04:08 PM
really good work,although her back head bugs me on the head shot,there's too little of it.otherwise this is very good for ppl like me who don't have hte money/time to go to amsterdam.thank you so much.i would really have liked to go there to see this happen live,but i will have to stick with that.
i rely on you posting further works in this way.it really helps the not-so-professional-and-new-to-colouring-techniques people like me to know what to do.thank you again very much.keep at it.:chug: :chug:

bwkeough
March 7th, 2004, 04:17 PM
wow, yeah I saved this thread, too. I think I'll likely be studying it to figure out the how and why of your steps. I'm really impressed with the density of the forms as suggested by the textures. Despite being posed somewhat stiffly, she has a weight and gravity that suggests her reality.

I wish I could make it to your demo in Amsterdam, is the US CA workshop still happening?

merd
March 7th, 2004, 04:52 PM
I don't think 4 days will be enough time to learn from you!!!!
See you in amsterdam!
:chug:

Prometheus|ANJ
March 7th, 2004, 05:07 PM
I got a slight grudge against your crazy colored lights (I can't help prefering normal warm/cool daylight stuff), but I really like your technique. I want Gouache ...gaga I can't even spell it... I want those colors anyways. The look of g* has always appealed to me.

As for Amsterdam, I got no plans yet. Or money. Therein lies the problem. Well, I'm too lazy to return the work contracts.

benzo
March 7th, 2004, 05:19 PM
!!!! sweet !!!!

thx for sharing and inspiring

stiocray
March 7th, 2004, 05:20 PM
Wow, i'm addicted to your art and i seriously get a high off it. So, How did you develope this way of coloring? Random experimentation,or did you build of technigues you learned or both?

julie cheung
March 7th, 2004, 06:07 PM
fantastic work, this is such a wonderful technique, I wanna try it too... and I'd love to come to Amsterdam if I hadnt booked other tickets already :cry:
oh what I wonder about is, how thick is the paper in your sketchbook =)

I.was.ink
March 7th, 2004, 06:57 PM
Wonderful.

I wont be attending the workshop, but hopefully you guys can get together in california sometime do give us USA folks a chance of getting to know you fellas.

One question about the wash. I have the same ink you do and everything, but do you use a paper pallette or something along those lines to put the ink on first, then you mix and apply from there? Or do you put some ink down on the paper and do the mixing there? Also, do you also have rubbing alcohol by ur side to dip the brush in so that it doesnt get too dark? I bought one of those brushes that you put the ink in. How do you use those? Did you use them for this? Also, generally whats the ration of alcohol to ink. I tried it once, and I guess I used to much ink, and it got pretty dark, and too wet, so my paper buckled.
How do you keep the buckling under control?

Whoa that was longer than I intended it to be:)

-iwasink

amphex
March 7th, 2004, 07:15 PM
Wow el coro!
Thanks alot for this demo, very interesting and informative....im really looking forward to trying out this technique sometime soon :)
Unfortunately, being a 16 yr old in NJ is preventing me from making it to amsterdam :(

I just have a few questions though...
Is the 4th step entirely done with colored pencils?
And, how do you dilute the inks/gouache? is there any sort of special technique? And how/why do you use rubbing alcohol?

Main Loop
March 7th, 2004, 08:11 PM
ah ive been waiting for another demo of yours.. so do you always do the tweaking in photoshop and painter or is it only for the ones you feel that need it?

have you ever tried mixing egg yolk and distilled water as a medium for your gouache? Its what Robert McGinnis does, thats why his paintings dont look that guoachy. I tried it before, its kinda nice, you can go thinner with it, and its not as gummy feeling..

killing.people
March 7th, 2004, 09:32 PM
wholy shit dude! my nuts totally fell off after the fourth picture ..

pogonip
March 7th, 2004, 09:57 PM
and el coro wins....yay ! :chug:

Nucleardan
March 7th, 2004, 11:06 PM
Good to see more of your work on here, Coro. Great execution on this, good luck in Amsterdam.

Dan

TARGETE
March 8th, 2004, 12:58 AM
In the words of Arnold in Predator "You sonova Biotch"..bad ass Elcoro...you know I hope you guys appreciate what Elcoro and many pros do to take the time to show you how its done.. I'm a pro and I'm grateful for this, People will sell their mothers to learn this shit at art school.

thanks man.

JP

Ant4d
March 8th, 2004, 02:49 AM
thank you

nil
March 8th, 2004, 03:09 AM
just awesome, thanks so much. wish i could be in amsterdam.

JackalAnubis
March 8th, 2004, 04:58 AM
do you ever plan on doing a demo in SF? I'm down for that. Sweet stuff, no problem with you getting carried away with the detail of the armour, it gives it texture appeal and life.

RAMÓN
March 8th, 2004, 05:46 AM
Great! I'm looking forward to meeting you at the workshop.

Wietse
March 8th, 2004, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by RAMÓN
Great! I'm looking forward to meeting you at the workshop.

And the same from me ;)

The way you work... Well right now it it seems very complex... But very inspiring.

I'll buy you a Bacardi-Coke in Club Havana when youre in Amsterdam:chug:

Vincent
March 8th, 2004, 10:04 AM
Can't believe the Workshop will rock even more then this tuturial !
Really awesome stuff, right now i'm still looking at this with a 'How the heck did he do that' face, but i'm sure it'll be clear when i see it in real life ;)
It's allways cool to see what you do with the bg's, makes it a finished piece instead of a conceptpage, very cool!

Red_Rook
March 8th, 2004, 11:09 AM
really really helpfull






im gunna learn this stuff in person :D

cartoonfox
March 8th, 2004, 01:51 PM
man i love your stuff man, its so traditional and sexy :D and the mix of digital media too.... genious :D


i will have to shake your hand in amsterdam. while i pick my jaw from off the floor. :D bloody looking forward to it :D my eyes are gonna expload in amsterdam man :D :D



peace man

lyon
March 8th, 2004, 02:47 PM
Very cool. I love seeing these work in progress shots. What are the dimensions of the piece? Even seeing the work in progress shots, there is some magic going on there that is elusive. I love the color. I don't think it is in me to pick color like that. I need to expand my mind's palette a little. Thanks for posting these.

How

el coro
March 9th, 2004, 02:02 AM
oooh! lots of replies! thaks so much guys.

howard: this piece i did in my 8.5x11 book. its easier to work smaller sometimes for me. as for color, i just kind of went crazy with this one. i'm all about compliments and temperature changes. be adventurous! its fun.

cartoonfox: thanks man. i look forward to meeting you !

Red_Rook: word. i'm glad you found this useful

Vincent: the workshop will rock more. i promise. my counterparts all outshine me, in my humble opinion, and i look forward to seeing their working methods as well. we can all seriously learn off eachother. thats invaluable.


Wietse: its not complex. its very easy and direct. i guarantee if you see how its done, it'll make perfect sense.

RAMÓN: me too dude.


JackalAnubis: there's an idea. you know, i've been wanting to get back into teaching more. if theres actually interest, maybe we could set something up in the future.

nil: thanks. maybe next time :)


Ant4d: no problem. more to come!


TARGETE: awwww shit man. you are way too kind. you called me a pro! that makes my day!


Nucleardan: thanks dan.


pogonip: haha. thanks man.


killing.people: do you know about neuticles? you should chechk them out. i own six...


Main Loop: more to come soon. i'[m trying to put a bunch togetherr. i've never tried the yolk thing. i think i shall.


amphex: thanks man. wish u could make it. the fourth step was done in colored pencil. it doesnt really pop until the gouache, though. as far as diluting, rubbing alcohol for the inks, and water for the gouache. i use alcohol cuz the inks are alcohol based. no real technique, just kind of slap bang.


I.was.ink: i use a water color pallette for the inks, the trick is to get as much ink on thepaper as quickly as possible. that way the entire paper gets the wash, this eases buckling. dont overwork the paper. just putone juicy wash down. then you can splatter with alcohol or more ink. and go crazy. i dont use really dark colors. indigo blue and dark browns are a major nono. i also mix inks on the pallette, mixing compliments to dull them down.


julie cheung: thank you very much.
you should definitely give this a try. its easy and rewarding. i use justa plain old strathmore or canson 8.5x11 hardbound blackbook. the paper is fairly thin, nothing special. the alcohol doesnt eat the graing of the paper or buckle it too much, so its very workable.


stiocray: thanks dude. i based this off basic painting philosophy, looking at simon bisleys and glan fabrys work, and alot of experimentation. i didnt start playing with it until i dropped out of art school, and was breaking rules :)


benzo: no prob man.


Prometheus|ANJ: haha! dude you're so scientific! i love it! i get too crazy with mt temperature changes sometimes. i dunno, i think its the graf background. all bright ass colors and shit. i'd be interested to see what youd do with gouache. i'm sure you'd kill with it. its similar to how you paint in ps. you'd pick it up easily.


merd: we'll damn sure try! see u there!


bwkeough: yeah the pose is a bit stiff. but i figures i could get away with it since she's kind of robotic :) i really love rendering textures through suggestion.its a fun challenge.


Carnifex: forshortening dude ;P haha, you're totally right. i'll put another one of these up real soon. i hope you guys can get something oput of it. its a tachnique thats served me well over the years...


Renzsu: see ya there!


liquidwerx: thanks man. wish you could go . maybe next time. you're in phoenix right? we need to do a wesr coast one of these thingies. maybe then u could make a pilgrimige to the pacific?

thanks again far all the positive feedback. i love this site.-c36

fukifino
March 9th, 2004, 10:29 AM
If you did a west coast workshop of any sort I'd so be there! Ever since I saw the thread in your sketchbook forum, I've been wanting to try this technique. I'm trying to figure out inking first before I spend an arm and a leg on those washes (damn those inks are expensive.)

Great stuff El Coro, and thanks for sharing! :D Have fun in Amsterdamn! :o

Skank
March 9th, 2004, 11:20 AM
this is spiff monkeys!
great to see another in depth tut from you man, this technique still blows me away =)
all you lucky bassturds goin to amsterdam better pay attention!!

Oblio
March 11th, 2004, 02:17 AM
Coro - this is sick. I WILL have an original page ripped from your sketchbook. :D

Oblio

zef
March 12th, 2004, 03:37 PM
Really happy to see you at the workshop after see that...
Crazy colors but so personnal.