Spartan Camp #162 - 50 gestures + Optional "Anatomical Master Study"

[Anthis]

Spartan Camp #162- 50 gestures + Optional "Anatomical Master Study"

The aim is to produce 50 gestures by Sunday the 19th of December.

- The gestures can be of anything, human, animal, cavorting capybaras.... You can draw full figures, but you can also go for heads, arms, eyes, or anything specific. All media can be used, both digital or traditional. Coloured or black/white. Quick scribbles or long studies. Imagination or referenced. Clothed or nude. Specifics are up to you!

- In addition to this, participants can choose to do an Optional "Anatomy Master Study", in any medium.
Additional notes on this weeks’ Optional Study:

Why study a master? They can draw and paint, and you want to find out how. Generally speaking, master studies are a means to understand the process or techniques of a given master artist. A master study is not a copy, since there is little learning involved in copying. You figure out their logic and thoughts behind the art by reproducing it. For this exercise, any artist or illustrator you would qualify as a master will do. The only constraint is to have an anatomy-related subject for the sake of this activity!
In short: Take an artwork from a great artist and make a study of it, understanding the piece or artists workflow along the way.

Colour, medium, time frame, any specifics are up to you! Have fun! And feel free to ask questions!

50 poses is a challenge, but don't hurry or stress yourself reaching it! Focus on drawing, as practising is the main goal of this exercise.

Criticizing each other is highly encouraged!! Share constructive criticism, reference and resources!! Let's help each other get better!

Come on soldiers! Flex those muscles!!

HALL OF FAME - SPARTAN CAMP #161

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J@n!t:star:

[Anthis]

Just an additional notice for those who participated in #160;
I've added some comments. Bit late, participation was a little overwhelming. Great round though!

Posting gestures tomorrow!

[shiNIN]

Just an additional notice for those who participated in #160;
I've added some comments. Bit late, participation was a little overwhelming
yay! (I couldn't overlook that anyway, I waited for your comments :D)

I'm sorry I was inactive last week and I messed up the last day when I went to bed after 4... I'm definitely in this week!
Yay for the optional, I already missed doing master studies. A naked woman with drapery will be good, right? (By Bouguereau of course :D
By the way, I searched for old masters's work lately and it's so hard, the photos are so very different. Sometimes I know it can't be right (too dark picture or horribly orange skin) but I really can't say what should be the original colors.
I can tolerate we use monitors with different limits and settings, these unsolvale problems are too much :(

[echo7925]

shiNIN : try this website http://www.artrenewal.org/pages/search.php. It's one of my fav.

Tried the conte and charcoal brush inside Painter this time. Very difficult to me. Don't quite get the feel yet. Anyway, here's mine for this week, all ref from posemaniacs

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[JR McGee]

And thus begins the road to self discovery. I'm joining the camp lol. :yayca:

havent done gestures iin like 8 months lol. even then i was a scrub. so i'm sorta trying to find my way.

did these last night....i THINK its only 47.

i realized on page 2 i was starting to get too caught up in all the structure and body features prematurely instead of capturing the overall energy and movement. (is that the point of gestures? define this for me plzzz). last image from imagination.


http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/349/3/2/gestures1_by_jr_mcgee-d34x8mk.jpg

any suggestions for a master study. i'd like to get the most out of something if i put some time into it.

[surus]

What about Alphonse Mucha for your master study? I think his detailed parts on the legs and arms (there's not one straight line) are difficult. Try to find one of the pictures with less drapery and clothes.

edit: Found a thread here full of sketches as reference:
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=157758

[shiNIN]

Anthis or anyone who remembers: Help please! There was a link, as far as I remember Anthis put it into one Spartan Camp topic not so long ago but not totally recently and somehow I can't find it... A link for a book with photos about a male almost nude model (he wore totally funny underpants those didn't hide his buttocks :D). I want it and I don't even find the pic I saved.
I may never have an idea about human drawing but I want to learn to draw a simple 3/4 standing pose at least in my life.


No drawings yet, I drew anatomy stuff with pencil today. They are hedious black masses. Is it normal that I study anatomy a lot and I remember little and still can't draw anything by myself?
Or that I try to draw a figure, even copy would do and after hours I still couldn't make my first one? For most of the time, I can't draw at all.
I start to feel schizophrenic. And very stubborn so it would be hard to give up so I don't wonder if I should.

I did it again...

I give some crits then. And say hi and welcome to JR McGee! Good, we need more activity this week than last one, right?
Nice looking gestures with some flaws here and there... I can't explain... Proportions may go wrong but something is usually right, I see the gestures and enjoy their gracefulness.
The walking girl's torso and limbs are too big for her head and breasts (or they are too little but I look at faces and boobs first) and the punk's ribcage/abs area seems strange, his abs looks flat.
What's gesture? This question were asked recently in these Spartan Camp topics, I won't search for it now, I go to bed too late again anyway.

[Anthis]

forgot to upload mine, back in a bit...

shiNIN- This book here (http://books.google.nl/books?id=MwQPcYvGMiAC&dq=human+figure+reference&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=ubQSsQHV8z&sig=bwcVL6E5vJ3CbX0due8lqPfNvuk&hl=nl&ei=w0dLSqOAM8nJ-QaX7NDeBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10#v=onepage&q&f=false) comes to mind. Or well, it would fit your description.

[surus]

Anthis: Do you also have the full book or a source, where the female pictures of this book are online? (maybe PDF?)

New spartan camp figures and scribbling, no master piece copy by me:

[J@n!t]

Gestures:

http://attachments.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1124387&d=1292687887
You have no idea how much mind-whirling went on while doing these this week ;) If I join in again next week, I'm going to make my gestures more gesture-y. I see "what is a gesture?" has been asked again. I think that's my problem. I need to decide what I'm looking to get out of it. As you can see, I changed up several times here, but there was a lot of learning going on.

Master Study:

http://attachments.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1124390&d=1292687997

I chose Chubirko, a Russian artist. Did a torso study, as that is the area I am currently looking at in Bridgman. I know there are mistakes, but the exploration was worthwhile (and NOT copying, like you said.) Not copying is hard ;)

[JR McGee]

What about Alphonse Mucha for your master study? I think his detailed parts on the legs and arms (there's not one straight line) are difficult. Try to find one of the pictures with less drapery and clothes.

edit: Found a thread here full of sketches as reference:
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=157758

amazing. i loved this guy work before i even knew who he was. i feel terrible lol.

not sure how to go about this but i'll give the master study a shot.


Thanks Shinin for the crit. ill keep those things i mind moving forward.

jus fuckin around here and there. but i did hand studies and i looked at Mucha some. Also looked at Frazetta. i guess thats my master study.

http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2010/352/4/4/scan_26_by_jr_mcgee-d3565en.jpg

[surus]

Thanks all! Great stuff! Looking forward to see your sketches in the next spartan camp!

[J@n!t]

JR McGee: Nice energy in your gestures. Is your latest post your master study? I wasn't sure as I am not familiar with your work yet.


Kinda disappointed that more people don't join in on these activities (or don't do the work suggested) because these are great exercises. I even looked back at the last year of Spartan Camp and saw that participation was low. Anybody know why?

[surus]

I think the lack of time (christmas), the thought, it would take too long to draw a few gestures and the thought, you would have to be better to show the stuff are three reasons. Maybe the life takes time offline. :)

So... draw gestures for five people of the forum and send this mail to five friends who want to improve their drawing skills (kidding) ^_^

[J@n!t]

Yes, all of those things are valid reasons. A lot of people have time to do COW and CHOW, though ;) I guess this is less exciting. It WOULD be nice to have more people for more interaction, I'm a little reluctant to give criticism because this is somewhat new to me.

[Sharon J]

Hey guys, I'm new here too.. been meaning to join the Spartan Camp for weeks now, hope I'm not too late! Great to see the number of participants rising :)

I've yet to make a master study drawing. The one I'd drawn was a copy of one of Michelangelo's sketches.. I tried to make it an exact copy, which is why I'm not going to post it.. Or what the heck, I'll post it, and work on a proper study for next camp.. The gesture drawings are from posemaniacs.

I'm still confused as to how to go about studying a master's work.. :/ HELP!

[J@n!t]

Yay Sharon, another participant!!

I need to make my gestures more like yours :)

[surus]

I'm a little reluctant to give criticism because this is somewhat new to me.

You don't have to criticize the others. Just participate if you want. I'm also only sharing my faster drawing pages. It helps to draw instead of procrastinating and instead of finding the perfect lines (which could often be translated as "never begun")

I don't criticize because I don't know for what reason someone has done the gestures and often I also don't know in which timeframe. Just have fun and flow during the sketching process! :)

@ Anthis: What about camp # 163?

[shiNIN]

I'm also only sharing my faster drawing pages. It helps to draw instead of procrastinating and instead of finding the perfect lines (which could often be translated as "never begun")
But it's hard for a perfectionist with waaaaaay better critic skills than drawing ones :(
Yesterday I really tried to focus on the gesture, few lines, nothing more... And I still ended up redrawing things many times :( When I'm not even warmed up, I often draw for hours without having my first "will do" gesture... That's the reason I skip spartan camps. (Once I spent 10 hours for a mere basic line sketch. I am stubborn.)
Maybe I should set a time limit for some gestures - and of course, trying to do well for some others...