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Martheart
August 8th, 2010, 03:16 PM
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ROUND #209:: Fallen Archangel Samael



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Fallen Archangel Samael



There are many interpretations of the character Samael, being an angel of both good and evil. Most stories portray his evil side though: the accuser, seducer and destroyer and the fallen angel... Some even compare him to Satan. This week you are to design Samael as a fallen angel, an angel gone very, very bad..

Design fallen archangel Samael!

- Think of a grim atmosphere, this is an angel with a dark side
- Setting can be anything!

Some information:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samael


Good Luck!


PLEASE NOTE THE RULES AND THE DEADLINE TIME

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DEADLINE:
SUNDAY, August 15th, 2010


Deadline is Sunday, at 9:00 pm (GMT +1).


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THE RULES
If you do not stick to these 6 simple rules, you will not be added to the poll.
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:right: 1) FOLLOW THE TOPIC.
It's about designing the character of the topic. The environment or side characters are far less important.

:right:2) SHOW AT LEAST ¾ OF YOUR DESIGN.
This is not an illustration contest, but a design contest. Show your whole design!

:right:3) POST YOUR FINAL IN THE FINALS THREAD.

:right:4) INCLUDE WIPS WITH YOUR FINAL.
Show your work in progress and post (links to) this in the finals thread!

:right:5) SAVE YOUR FILES IN THE FOLLOWING FORMAT. Chow##_Nickname
example: "CHOW#100_Oblio.jpg" ;)
No final.jpgs please!


:right:6) PLACE THE IMAGE IN A FRAME WITH YOUR NAME/TOPIC

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i222/ChowPics/frame.jpg
(you can add CA logo, etc).



About quality - as general rule: if your shapes and values are not decent - you are out. Watch proportions, perspective etc. we need perfectly readable shapes and coherent, consistent values.

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BE PROFESSIONAL - only finished and good quality entries will be taken to the poll. Icemoon and Arthemis IX will make the selection.
Please review these helpful reminders if you have not done so already.

:right:ON GETTING TO POLL (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1891823&postcount=15)
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PLEASE REMEMBER TO WRITE YOUR COPYRIGHT INFORMATION UNDER THE IMAGE IN THE FINAL BURNING THREAD SO I DON'T HAVE TO HUNT YOU DOWN LATER!

Senira
August 8th, 2010, 03:28 PM
Sounds interesting. I don't usually do grimdark stuff, so this should be a challenge.

Saleem
August 8th, 2010, 03:41 PM
fricking awesome topic

goldilockz
August 8th, 2010, 04:35 PM
Completely off my radar as far as genre and style... but I'm going to try to go for it!

reginanegra
August 8th, 2010, 05:35 PM
awesome! my hands are itching to get started!:P

rodriguez
August 8th, 2010, 05:41 PM
Some doodles before bed

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JanJager
August 8th, 2010, 06:12 PM
Some more doodles before bed.

dkiearth
August 8th, 2010, 07:41 PM
3 ideas that i had so far... the one goes with the Destroyer version and the other one is a Fallen Angel reaping off his own wings and the 3rd one is kinda different. which one do you think is better ? any suggestions?

ChrisProof
August 8th, 2010, 08:35 PM
This is gonna be fun =D

gunnarsson
August 8th, 2010, 08:57 PM
gave it a start, gonna finish it if i have time which i hope I get.. fun topic, good luck everyone!:)

samothrace
August 8th, 2010, 09:46 PM
I was thinking about passing on this CHOW...but after seeing the idea I might have to join.

invinciblewombat
August 8th, 2010, 10:26 PM
hopefully i'll do more than a sketch this round, we'll see

mairuku
August 8th, 2010, 10:38 PM
WOW GUYS EEEEE!!! SUPER INSPIRING CHOW :)

or i just like dark evil angels :)...this is like drawing dessert! and not marie antoinette's this time!! :D

hurrderp got myself reference and an anatomy book laying open this time!

must learn previous mistakes!

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fdisk
August 9th, 2010, 12:08 AM
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Going to add some tribal tattoos, piercings, a snake, and some more detail after I'm done rendering him.

C.Abarca
August 9th, 2010, 01:23 AM
lol yeah i didnt have enough time for the marie...so maybe ill do better this time :3

keith eager
August 9th, 2010, 02:46 AM
Breaking out of the angel stereotype a little bit here. They don't have to be recognizably human right?

Turns out this Samael guy was absolutely enormous, and covered head to toe in eyes according to one account. From Wikipedia:

According to "The Ascension of Moses" (Chapter IV - Aggadah - The Legend of The Jews - By Louis Ginzberg) Samael is also mentioned as being in 7th Heaven:

"In the last heaven Moses saw two angels, each five hundred parasangs in height, forged out of chains of black fire and red fire, the angels Af, "Anger," and Hemah, "Wrath," whom God created at the beginning of the world, to execute His will. Moses was disquieted when he looked upon them, but Metatron embraced him, and said, "Moses, Moses, thou favorite of God, fear not, and be not terrified," and Moses became calm. There was another angel in the seventh heaven, different in appearance from all the others, and of frightful mien. His height was so great, it would have taken five hundred years to cover a distance equal to it, and from the crown of his head to the soles of his feet he was studded with glaring eyes, at the sight of which the beholder fell prostrate in awe. "This one," said Metatron, addressing Moses, "is Samael, who takes the soul away from man." "Whither goes he now?" asked Moses, and Metatron replied, "To fetch the soul of Job the pious." Thereupon Moses prayed to God in these words, "O may it be Thy will, my God and the God of my fathers, not to let me fall into the hands of this angel."

I thought this was interesting too, fits with the whole taker of souls bit:

In anthroposophy, archangels may be good or evil; in particular, some of their rank are collaborators of Ahriman, whose purpose (anthroposophists believe) is to alienate humanity from the spiritual world and promote materialism and heartless technical control.

Wiggers
August 9th, 2010, 05:45 AM
Great topic!

UCT
August 9th, 2010, 06:07 AM
wiggers - thats amazing already. Last time I saw one of your finals it has an old skool black metal vibe about it so that'll look sweet.

gunnarson - looks interesting, taking it to a fable level here, looks to have some narative. Nice start.

Inviciblewombat - great gesture and framing going on already, I like the moody monothilic atmosphere you've gone for.

gunnarsson
August 9th, 2010, 07:27 AM
nice wiggers! Nice pose and 3d feel/overlapping.. Just small ideas, but maybe the head is a little small, and something about where his right shoulder attach to his chest looks a little bit improvable.. Not sure how, perhaps it should poke out a bit more. I love the hands and the angle of the hips! Well I'm not as good as you at anatomy, so might be lame suggestions there..:)

anywho, a little more work on it. suggestions?

reginanegra
August 9th, 2010, 07:51 AM
this samael has gone very very bad indeed. i went for the seducer aspect obviously. is it too kinky? after its done i am thinking i ll add some shadowy angel wings on the walls behind him "supernatural" style.

Wiggers
August 9th, 2010, 07:59 AM
Thanks gunnarsson i have to say i really love your work ! the small head is intentional the dodgy shoulder not so:)

Small update

gunnarsson
August 9th, 2010, 08:05 AM
Hey thank you! That looks great, really like the eye colour:D

Nonobot
August 9th, 2010, 09:39 AM
:D Awesome stuff coming on.
Im going for a fire/stone kind of feel, bursting out of a rock shell. Stuck on six wings because I think they look cool. ;l
For the background Im thinking; edge of space?

Pixeltuner
August 9th, 2010, 09:45 AM
Schaweet topic :)

alexson
August 9th, 2010, 10:39 AM
Hi!
I was hesitant to join this week when I first saw the topic but after reading some about the guy I was hooked. He doesn't seem like a very nice guy.

I did this sketch after reading on wikipedia, he turned out more like a demon than an angel but perhaps that is fitting. I hope you like it.

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ArtByManon
August 9th, 2010, 11:00 AM
Want to do this but don't think i'll have the time. DANG.

Gherasim
August 9th, 2010, 11:07 AM
Great activity so far, keep it up!

Here is my idea on this topic about fallen angels...i hope ill take it further than this.

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UCT
August 9th, 2010, 11:14 AM
Wiggers - front leg looks smaller than the hind leg.

This is going to turn out to be a wet drape nightmare of feathers and robage.

Sarmati
August 9th, 2010, 12:08 PM
Recently I've been working on two different projects, but when I saw this CHOW I thought that finally I'll have to engage. I love the variety of ideas already presented and wait for the finals. My concept of Samael shows him as the one who was pulling strings behind Hitlers reign.

Selim
August 9th, 2010, 01:50 PM
Hopefully I'll finish this one...
Any critics, comments or whatever are appreciated
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By the way, the snake is cause he is the one who made the snake temp Eve, at least from one of the things I read.

sketchibo
August 9th, 2010, 02:02 PM
Awesome topic. Hopefully I'll get to finish this one. I'm going to use this as an opportunity to practice working digitally since I find that to be an area of weakness for me.
Tried to make him look supafreaky.

Broken Lawnmower
August 9th, 2010, 02:09 PM
I like this topic!

Here's my go at it:

DragonicFlames
August 9th, 2010, 03:39 PM
So... newbie-sh questions and such fun things:

If you have no real intention of posting the final piece for voting, is it still alright to post your work as you go through it with everyone elses? I'm no pro, and I would hate to rain on someone's parade being all up in the koolaid and not knowing the flava'.

That being said - does anyone really mind if it's not a following the proposed mood that was set on the first page? My sketch has more symbolic references to death, seduction, and being fallen and the evil-evil, bad-bad man with some wings, rather than a grim/creepy/homg feeling about this is an evil-evil, bad-bad man with some wings ? Or is that basically what the koolaid flava' is and that's what people are going to do.

o 3 o'

-wave, poof-

Tetrodotoxin
August 9th, 2010, 03:40 PM
Doodled around a little... too bad I'm leaving on Thursday!

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fdisk
August 9th, 2010, 03:52 PM
So... newbie-sh questions and such fun things:

If you have no real intention of posting the final piece for voting, is it still alright to post your work as you go through it with everyone elses? I'm no pro, and I would hate to rain on someone's parade being all up in the koolaid and not knowing the flava'.

That being said - does anyone really mind if it's not a following the proposed mood that was set on the first page? My sketch has more symbolic references to death, seduction, and being fallen and the evil-evil, bad-bad man with some wings, rather than a grim/creepy/homg feeling about this is an evil-evil, bad-bad man with some wings ? Or is that basically what the koolaid flava' is and that's what people are going to do.

o 3 o'

-wave, poof-

I don't see anything wrong with that; I've left a bunch of CHOWs on the cutting floor for lack of time to finish them.

Sarmati
August 9th, 2010, 03:57 PM
My second WIP a bit more touched up.

Thélema
August 9th, 2010, 04:53 PM
sketchibo: That's absolutely amazing!



I thought it was more attractive for me to draw him as a sexy fallen angel, a seducer, not a monster.

Hm, I think his head a little too big compared with the rest ot he body :/ what do you guys think?

Oh, and I will not draw his gent's parts. Too much work, lol. I'll cover them with a towell or something :D

Senira
August 9th, 2010, 05:02 PM
Right-o. So after toying around with a few different ideas, I decided to go with the "angel of death" idea of Samael, only in this case, he's in charge of shepherding the damned to hell. Despite (or, knowing his new master, because of) his current position, he still bears the crown he wore as leader of the fifth layer of heaven, only now it's tarnished and warped, stripped of all its former glory.

I remember why I stopped thumbnailing compositions. I'm terrible at it.

Niva.
August 9th, 2010, 05:06 PM
Wow, great topic, hope I have time to put something together since I leave for vacation on Friday.

Homerid
August 9th, 2010, 06:18 PM
Interesting topic, I'll give it a try, here's a couple of sketches and a some colors

artina
August 9th, 2010, 06:47 PM
Hey everyone,

Here are a couple of steps of my Samael piece. The second one is where I am at the moment. Some great stuff so far. Later.

keith eager
August 9th, 2010, 07:32 PM
Keepin it wild. This guy wants to know, who wants a piece?

DragonicFlames
August 9th, 2010, 07:36 PM
Well, Mr. Fdisk, I hope that's the case. :D Mine looks like a would be icon/vodun candle pictograph. I just need more lime blossoms... and less weak ankles. Ew. Ankles of weakness. Shuuush about the hands...and the... arms. D;

Everyone else's looks ridiculously awesome and BA. :( -weeps in her corner-

fionkell
August 9th, 2010, 08:10 PM
Time for Fin to jump in!

Throwing my rough notes up here so far :) Figuring out the body before I figure out the composition:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v686/iolarnula/sketchbook13/sammy-sks.jpg

Looking great everyone!

popwilleatitse1f
August 9th, 2010, 09:09 PM
This is the first ChoW I've tried, after looking thru the contests for the last month. Spent about 4 hours so far.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6GGcln-fE78/TGCxX0JOTUI/AAAAAAAAAaw/B8wUUyhQJi0/s1600/Picture+4.png
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6GGcln-fE78/TGCxaF5hqZI/AAAAAAAAAa4/EQ7ViV-oTBc/s1600/Picture+5.png
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6GGcln-fE78/TGCxluTaDRI/AAAAAAAAAbA/s68GzkuLHXg/s1600/Picture+6.png

LA-Fairy
August 9th, 2010, 09:16 PM
wicked ideas!

Sonia Leticia
August 9th, 2010, 09:57 PM
Wow peoples stuff are already looking amazing! I think I may attempt my first ChoW this week.. I'm gonna try to free up some time. This is a really neat topic.

keith eager
August 9th, 2010, 10:21 PM
Shining some light on this ugly guy. Considering giving him an insect like shell.

Selim
August 9th, 2010, 10:23 PM
This is what I have so far. His right arm is in a weired pose but I'll take care of that later... I hope...
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Broken Lawnmower
August 10th, 2010, 12:14 AM
Great work all around, guys!

This is where I'm at right now.

fionkell
August 10th, 2010, 01:37 AM
Okay, baby steps...looking a bit too buff as opposed to my earlier study so best address that before moving on.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v686/iolarnula/sketchbook13/fionkell-samael-2.jpg

ARRGH!
August 10th, 2010, 02:59 AM
Here's my take on the fallen angel. Thanks

Arbor
August 10th, 2010, 03:02 AM
I am absolutely certain I wont be able to fully finish an entry due to an arm injury, but I can't resist doing some of the lighter work, at least!

I tried to marry kind of classical good looks with something a little unnerving and strained, particularly in the face. I'm also trying to draw inspiration from ravens/bird anatomy. I don't know how well this comes across in this initial sketch, but thats where I would want to /go/ with it, anyway, if I could at the moment, haha.

Quinn Simoes
August 10th, 2010, 03:12 AM
Cool topic!

Great to see everyones ideas!

Here's my work in progress.

gunnarsson
August 10th, 2010, 04:55 AM
broken lawnmower, really liking it, mighty scene! i thought the many eyed huge form of samael was maybe the one to evoke the most feelings as I read the wikipedia article, and so far that looks really cool.

also, fionkell, like the lion alot, looking forward to the final!:) And everyone else is doing great! High standards inhere I say,

Wiggers
August 10th, 2010, 05:11 AM
Thats really cool Quinn!

reginanegra
August 10th, 2010, 06:00 AM
minor update and introduction. :P a david bowie look for my samael. i thought i d make one of the slaves a man but i thought the guys in here would freak out :P
anyway this guy is all about freaky, perverse, lust, he spreads it around like a virus. he is surrounded by his first disciples each one embodies a different aspect of seduction. his raven wings will be visible only on the walls behind him sort of like shadows but not realy depending on the light sourse.

popwilleatitse1f
August 10th, 2010, 06:51 AM
the body is where I want it now its time to add wings.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6GGcln-fE78/TGE7Ue7evYI/AAAAAAAAAbI/glx4yo33tF8/s1600/Fallen+Archangel+Samael.jpg

UCT
August 10th, 2010, 06:58 AM
Quinn Simmons - dude, thats mega! Do you manipulate photos in your imagery? I love the style, do you have a progress sheet showing how you put your images together? do you make the vectors in illustrator then give it texture in ps? looks great dude.

fedde
August 10th, 2010, 07:56 AM
I don't know. Angel guy with bad skin.., Might start over from scratch with this one..

k_z
August 10th, 2010, 08:11 AM
Hey, whats is it growing on your face?... some lion thing... BTW. nice idea .-)

Yeah, i couldn't resist... so there are two my attempts to somehow grab this theme...
I thing, I will go with the second one...

Senira
August 10th, 2010, 08:37 AM
Here's my update. I want to push the face more, but I haven't decided how. Hm...

EDIT: And now the post appears. The server must be delayed today.

sketchibo
August 10th, 2010, 09:36 AM
More progress.

keith eager
August 10th, 2010, 10:18 AM
That's it for this view. Time to start a more story based illustration featuring this bad boy. Good work so far everybody.

Ming1918
August 10th, 2010, 10:30 AM
Hi guys,
a loong time since my last post
Here's my Samael wip,still thinking about design.
Any suggestion concerning pose and anatomy?
Cheers
M

gunnarsson
August 10th, 2010, 10:43 AM
cools! ming, anatomy seems pretty good, maybe the base his shoulder should be a little lower down. And perhaps make his arms a bit longer. The power of the pose is somewhat lost in the arms, you could try and bring the arms back a little more and maybe even have the right arm from our view strait. just some thoughts...:)

updatin! if anyone has suggestions or spots anything, i'd appreciate it!:D

kazerniel
August 10th, 2010, 10:45 AM
Hello, I'm new here :)

This is my first WIP shot for the topic:

UCT
August 10th, 2010, 11:06 AM
gunnarrson - forearms look a little too long. great character.

progress, Im trying to resist horns.

keith eager
August 10th, 2010, 11:42 AM
Gunnarsson: Your night lighting is just fantastic. I dig the compressed legs due to the high eye level trick too. I checked out your sb, some super nice stuff towards the end. Looking forward to seeing your chow progressing.

Watch out that the house at the top left of the frame doesn't get too distracting though. Samael isn't really looking at it, and it doesn't bounce the eye back to him either, it just saps energy and takes the viewers eye out of the piece. My feeling is that if there was some indication of the house right in front of him, maybe a busted up mailbox, and some light bouncing off of rocks and trees coming from the left off screen, this would create a really nice feeling of mystery, some good story to draw the viewer in.

Sarmati
August 10th, 2010, 12:06 PM
Slowly starts looking more angelic than just a cool ssman with long hair. I'll add some halo-ish horns and pieces of armour.

keith eager
August 10th, 2010, 12:25 PM
Gunnarsson: Maybe this helps, I hope it does.

Ruri
August 10th, 2010, 12:28 PM
Old Testament angels were not nice guys.

Ming1918
August 10th, 2010, 12:52 PM
Thx Gunnarsson!
I fixed a bit arms anatomy and started the colouring process
Another wip:

gunnarsson
August 10th, 2010, 01:16 PM
hey keath! thanks alot for the help, nice of you to take the time:) Something like a mailbox is good, should try it, though I don't have that much time. And yah, teh house is definitely to bright...
thanks UCT! gotta fixit.
Rurui, you have created a bad ass!

Rabbi Satan
August 10th, 2010, 01:20 PM
Here's something I whipped up after tonight's figure drawing class I had. I'm still broiling and percolating ideas for Samael (This will also be my first (solo) chow entry). I'd like people's feedback as to what I might need to improve.

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Gherasim
August 10th, 2010, 02:29 PM
Beautiful sketches everyone; Lawnmower, i would try creating a more forced perspective with those wings, just to see if it will make your composition more dynamic/dramatic?

Here's where i got so far: a more refined concept, but still a sketch; wich i am not sure about..

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Keep up the good work!

k_z
August 10th, 2010, 02:55 PM
Really good ideas around here...

For my picture was interesting this particular one:
...he is charged with being the one who tempted Eve...

Obliviongrin
August 10th, 2010, 03:04 PM
Samael-keeping it simple so hopefully I'll finish him on time

Brian.May
August 10th, 2010, 03:07 PM
Wiggers - front leg looks smaller than the hind leg.

This is going to turn out to be a wet drape nightmare of feathers and robage.

I like this design, I haven't gone through the rest of the thread yet to see if there are updates but I am hoping there is and if not, I hope it gets completed!!

alexson
August 10th, 2010, 03:50 PM
Everything is looking wonderful so far! I like the diversity of styles.
Here's wip of my picture, I'm not very experienced with color yet so any feedback is appreciated. It's still pretty dark.

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artina
August 10th, 2010, 04:50 PM
Hey everyone,

This is my take on Samael. Some great entries so far. Remember to have fun everyone. Later.

Ruri
August 10th, 2010, 05:15 PM
Bit of an update.

Nephilie
August 10th, 2010, 05:56 PM
Hello everyone,
it's really cool to see all those different ideas here =D

I've started too, without any idea. I used Alchemy to get a base and painted over it until I had some shapes for Samael
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And now I'm tired...

DragonicFlames
August 10th, 2010, 06:25 PM
Teeny Update

Fixed the arms for the most part - the shoulders are still irritating me. I've flipped the image twice, doodled on it in paint and all other sorts of things. The neck is a lil' wonky still. I need to adjust some things on the face a lil' bit that's throwing it off in the mirror image.

I decided to go with a theme that I've already done for another angel, Azrael, for the clothing. Shush about the candle I'm not done with placements of the hands and fingers yet (obviously by the craptastic fingers and box hands) so I haven't flesh the candle out. :D

For the wings, I'm using vulture wing references - just in case anyone was curious as to why it looks kinda like a chicken with sticks popping out. Lol.

vatteh
August 10th, 2010, 06:35 PM
Here's my attempt. Needs more creativity.

DefiledVisions
August 10th, 2010, 06:51 PM
awesome topic. awesome topic. awesome topic. :O

damn you guys are doing cool works too!

Danbot386
August 10th, 2010, 07:11 PM
Here is a quick sketch that I quickly (for me anyway) coloured. I know there are 1,000,001 things wrong with it, but any feedback on the idea or any suggestions will be welcomed :).

Beelow
August 10th, 2010, 08:18 PM
Here is what I started yesterday. I am not really liking it at the moment. I am a bit concerned with functionality. I think I went overboard. Crits always welcome. Awesome stuff as always everyone. Keep painting.:hugsmile:

popwilleatitse1f
August 10th, 2010, 08:32 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6GGcln-fE78/TGH8VFlbnFI/AAAAAAAAAbg/BkFdKbVTwSY/s1600/Fallen+Archangel+Samael+WIP2.jpg

Senira
August 10th, 2010, 10:17 PM
Update.

fionkell
August 10th, 2010, 10:22 PM
Gunnarson thanks :)

Bit further along...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v686/iolarnula/sketchbook13/fionkell-samael-3.jpg

Shogo
August 10th, 2010, 10:45 PM
my card in the deck. lot of good ones in here! suggestions/crits please!

McGhoul
August 10th, 2010, 11:14 PM
Some quick lines, hope I can finish this one. Love what everyone has so far, kinda took everything I read and mixed it together for my design plus some alien proportions to make him look creepy.

Featherwurm
August 10th, 2010, 11:34 PM
Man, I can never resist stuff like this, but hey, that's probably a good thing right?

May tweak the design a bit (it's not 100% what I want), or I might run with it as-is, though any and all critique is always welcome. I really wanted to go with cobra hood imagery (for the eyes, venom, and 'wings'), but I think I could have pushed it more.

Rabbi Satan
August 10th, 2010, 11:41 PM
Here's something I did in 2 and 3/4ths of an hour. I guess I'm happy enough with my early concepts for Samael, so I decided to draw him with a slight pose with a hellish environ in the backgroud. I'm not that good at drawing rocks and cliff faces, so any critiques would be wunderbar =)

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Quinn Simoes
August 11th, 2010, 12:04 AM
Quinn Simmons - dude, thats mega! Do you manipulate photos in your imagery? I love the style, do you have a progress sheet showing how you put your images together? do you make the vectors in illustrator then give it texture in ps? looks great dude.

UCT Thanks! Yes, I do use photo textures in my paintings and occasionally I use textured brushes. I do post progress shots of all my Chows when I post my final. I don't use Illustrator, all my paintings are 100% Photoshop. Hope that helps.

Wiggers Thanks man! Yours is looking great, I look forward to seeing your final.

RonHundred
August 11th, 2010, 12:10 AM
A lot of great entries, i'll try.
http://i35.tinypic.com/710bup.jpg

fdisk
August 11th, 2010, 12:40 AM
Featherwurm: That's a lot of penises on the third one...

Featherwurm
August 11th, 2010, 12:56 AM
Featherwurm: That's a lot of penises on the third one...

*Headdesk* Man I didn't even notice, I'll have to fix that in the final (I think color will improve things in any case, but I have been wrong about that in the past).

PNate
August 11th, 2010, 01:03 AM
Cool topic! Rough sketch-
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lkjhgfdsa
August 11th, 2010, 01:35 AM
sdfgh

ARRGH!
August 11th, 2010, 02:54 AM
Great work from so many, still trying to make something out of this! Thanks

Edriss
August 11th, 2010, 03:05 AM
Great stuff so far! As ever can't resist anything with wings so I'm going to tentatively throw my hat in, might even finish :P

Here's my wips so far.

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gunnarsson
August 11th, 2010, 04:46 AM
oh nooooooes! I managed to save my photoshop file in the size of the posted one! wäääää!

Windsrock
August 11th, 2010, 04:53 AM
Quick sketch from last night. Wow, long time no chow :wtf: it's about the time!

Ming1918
August 11th, 2010, 06:31 AM
MMM..
I'm somehow get stuck with this,I feel that it needs something more but I wonder what it might be.
Any suggestions?
Thx a lot
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Wiggers
August 11th, 2010, 08:02 AM
Update.

Pate5
August 11th, 2010, 09:23 AM
Hello, entering my first CHOW. Just a rough sketch, help appreciated.

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1038866&stc=1&d=1281536495

curiouslucious
August 11th, 2010, 09:31 AM
Prob the best one I've come up with. Not sure where to go from here as I can't digital paint...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4139/4881872357_47a1f533b3.jpg

Edriss
August 11th, 2010, 09:54 AM
An update, moved on to greyscale.
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UCT
August 11th, 2010, 10:04 AM
wiggers - looking good there, ace sword (I now understand the blue highlighting that confused me a bit earlier) needs a background to frame character.

ming - i think you need to add tonal values, it goes from bright to dark pritty quickly, and with the colours, hard lights and shadows, theres not much harmony. Nice colours tho, so far as the feet go, good effort really.

aargh - I think you need to pin down some of that energy in your pose. Pick a focal point and work out from that, I dont know if you are going to use dynamic brush strokes as your wip suggests but they need to complement the gesture. Nice start.


This is going really slowly. Added a femer and egg to show the life / death cycle, good / bad 'creation' contradictions within his character. blah blah...

Nev87
August 11th, 2010, 11:08 AM
lovin these :)

Started yesturday didnt get around to posting until today. so this is YESTURDAYS work. I will be getting started on todays work after lunch :)

Sarmati
August 11th, 2010, 11:14 AM
I wonder which one looks better.

DefiledVisions
August 11th, 2010, 11:19 AM
So much sexy work in here :O goddddddddamn!

Loving the topic! arh, sketchy sketchy

http://conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1038925&stc=1&d=1281543395

kazerniel
August 11th, 2010, 11:24 AM
I love your works guys, so many different concepts for the same topic! :)

Here's my second WIP shot:

sketchibo
August 11th, 2010, 11:44 AM
Hammering away.

rissking
August 11th, 2010, 12:08 PM
here is my first wimp for my fallen angel.
http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo332/rissking/fallenangel3.jpg

Ming1918
August 11th, 2010, 01:28 PM
OK I fixed a bit chest's anatomy and polished the background
I tried to balance lightning adding a smoother transitio between shadows and light areas(Thx UCT)
I think it's almost done,but I need to forget it for a while and see what happens next time I'll look at it
Any feedback will be appreciated as usual
thx guys
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Zwebbie
August 11th, 2010, 02:58 PM
New guy here :) .

http://www.joeyspijkers.com/contests/CHOW209WIP1.jpg

Cherubiel
August 11th, 2010, 02:59 PM
Hey! My version of Samael, so far. :D.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/Gossamer/CA-SamaelWIP01.jpg

Homerid
August 11th, 2010, 03:17 PM
So many great works already!

WIP update

Obliviongrin
August 11th, 2010, 04:03 PM
Ming1918- really like the piece you're doing
here's a more fleshed out version of my sketch-

Zeitwolf
August 11th, 2010, 04:27 PM
cool topic, when do we have the chance to draw muscly winged men?

and do I see that correctly: chow can be a creature, too, as long as it's bipedal?

ronchibus
August 11th, 2010, 04:46 PM
Trying this out for the first time. I went for the Samael at a low point, after his wings are ripped off. But at least he's nuts and smiling about it.
Here's my B&W sketch:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_sBZINqcqDBQ/TGMZEk5vqlI/AAAAAAAACDk/nctqw7_xhdQ/s1600/chow209_ronchibus.01.jpg

And here's a go at color:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sBZINqcqDBQ/TGMZIbQqUgI/AAAAAAAACDs/zEPBDXNlGaw/s1600/chow209_ronchibus.2c.jpg

Nephilie
August 11th, 2010, 05:09 PM
Zeitwolf: yes, a CHOW can be a creature. It just have to be an individual thing. You can read more about that in the CHOW Suggestion Thread

Worked on some details. I don't know how to go on
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Nev87
August 11th, 2010, 05:37 PM
about 5 hours later i have my values in. gotta do some clouds. somethings not working with the wings(besides the fact that i got lazy for the day and copied over the left to the right, ill fix that tomorrow just didnt feel right posting with 1 wing filled in and the other just a silhouette)

DefiledVisions
August 11th, 2010, 05:51 PM
Cherubiel, really diggin that style! keep working it man :D


more wip for me guys

JanJager
August 11th, 2010, 06:00 PM
Lots of cool stuff already.

alexson
August 11th, 2010, 06:11 PM
JanJager looking nice, going to be cool to see it's progress.
DefiledVisions fun to see you joining!

Hectic week for me but I'll make time to finish this, here's update of my WIP.
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AlotAbitAlittle
August 11th, 2010, 06:48 PM
Ming1918 Possible Addition: adding a highlight to the eyeball blood/goo could add some depth. BTW...I love it. The fire on the wings looks really good. :)

sketchibo
August 11th, 2010, 08:22 PM
More progress. Leaving it here for today I think.

Rabbi Satan
August 11th, 2010, 09:02 PM
More progress. Leaving it here for today I think.

Very nice - by far, this is the creepiest one out of the lot =) (The gaping maw really seals the deal). Was that what you were going for?

Still, very nice. LOTS of good work all around. This is gonna be a tough one to judge =D.

Shogo
August 11th, 2010, 09:02 PM
trying to evil him up a bit.
more to go but help or suggestions is greatly appreciated!

lkjhgfdsa
August 11th, 2010, 09:15 PM
sdfgh

fionkell
August 12th, 2010, 12:15 AM
Still WIP on this one, but I think I'm over halfway done :p

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v686/iolarnula/sketchbook13/fionkell-samael-5.jpg

Featherwurm
August 12th, 2010, 12:39 AM
Didn't like the ideas from last night, so I wanted to mix things up a bit more. I think I will probably go with the last design here. A friend of mine suggested messed up legs made of eyes so he would have to drag himself around like a snake, and I liked the idea enough to give it a go.

fdisk
August 12th, 2010, 01:14 AM
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I might still add the snake; I might not; depends on time and feedback. I'm concerned adding a third character will take away from the "personal moment" depicted between the main two.

Pate5
August 12th, 2010, 02:59 AM
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1039614&stc=1&d=1281599894

shockowaffel
August 12th, 2010, 04:40 AM
@Sketchibo:
This one is really promising.
You should add a center of attention with noticeable more details, propably on his head and upper body.

@lkjhgfdsa:
How come that angels or fallen ones are often portrayed in a shiny armor?
Not in this thread though. Here we hae naked dudes, oversize beasts and strange guys riding lamas. ^^

UCT
August 12th, 2010, 06:06 AM
Arthur Two Sheilds - HAHA, your style has developed alot from what I can remember. Looks good.

k_z
August 12th, 2010, 07:31 AM
some more work done....

Sardeanie
August 12th, 2010, 09:27 AM
My initial layout for Samael. In the rendering phase I want to express the contrast between his light and dark sides. Where the divine light hits him (back) he is still beautiful but in the dark shadows he becomes death.

Done on my iPad with my blood pencil (finger) lol.

Aurthur "Two Sheds"- heeeeelarious!

UCT- beautiful.

Sketchibo- nice concept!

Xitu
August 12th, 2010, 10:19 AM
sketchibo
That... is horrible D:
In a good way. Really. It's a fantastic piece. It's just going to give me goddamn nightmares.
I rate it 10/10 for efficiency.

Arthur 'Two Sheds'
Winner! At least in my heart. It's so hilariously preposterous that you should put it on a T-shirt.
I swear this has potential to become a new internet meme.

reginanegra
August 12th, 2010, 10:47 AM
i decided to take it to a new direction. this one a bit more conceptart-ish... i think! i ll have him casually striding out of one of the portals to hell. he doesnt have his wings anymore so in mockery he wears a cloak that looks like wings. i couldnt resist the eyes either but i only gave him one (instead of a belly button which he doesnt have for obvious reasons).
what do ya think?

shannanigan
August 12th, 2010, 11:52 AM
Hi all! Been a while... having an artistic low so its always helpful popping on Conceptart for a little pick me up. :D

So I was pondering this Samael character... reading all the different takes on him... fallen one, red dragon, Angel of Death, etc. and I like the idea of him being in "transition". Changing from an angel to a demon as he sucks up the souls of the damned. Hes really getting into his new job... :D

Crappy doodles below, not sure it will get much further since I'm starting so late.

shannanigan
August 12th, 2010, 12:08 PM
i decided to take it to a new direction. this one a bit more conceptart-ish... i think! i ll have him casually striding out of one of the portals to hell. he doesnt have his wings anymore so in mockery he wears a cloak that looks like wings. i couldnt resist the eyes either but i only gave him one (instead of a belly button which he doesnt have for obvious reasons).
what do ya think?



I think this idea is much better than Pimp Daddy Samael... LOL!
I really like the incorporation of wings and eyes into the clothing (well the grommets. They look like eyes!).... rather than being literal.

And I totally didn't think about the bellybutton... duh!

Pate5
August 12th, 2010, 01:01 PM
More of my work.

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1039803&stc=1&d=1281635838

Feedback is very welcome.

kazerniel
August 12th, 2010, 01:25 PM
reginanegra: Haha, I've never been thinking about angels have bellybutton or not, but good idea! :D

My 3rd WIP: (Btw my Samael is looking up to Heaven from the hell/land below he's been banished to. I think I should give his face more expression :/)

Rabbi Satan
August 12th, 2010, 01:57 PM
For a variety of reasons, I decided to try to use photograph textures for this image. I bought myself a cgtextures account, and went hog wild downloading rock images.

Anyway, I spent aproximately 3 hours learning and creating the following image. I'd like critiques if anyone would like to spare any.

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Obliviongrin
August 12th, 2010, 02:10 PM
I think it's done.. not quite sure

reginanegra
August 12th, 2010, 02:11 PM
I think this idea is much better than Pimp Daddy Samael... LOL!
I really like the incorporation of wings and eyes into the clothing (well the grommets. They look like eyes!).... rather than being literal.

And I totally didn't think about the bellybutton... duh!

....Pimp Daddy Samael..... hahahhahahhahahha sounds like a rapper... (def not raper :P)
technicaly i guess he shouldnt have nipples either but then where would he hang his nipple rings from? :P

Ephelea
August 12th, 2010, 02:17 PM
rapper?^ lol. Raper.

I'm looking at a lot of these, and am wondering if anyone has told some people that there are certain criteria, such as 3/4's of the body, etc..? Where are the mods?

popwilleatitse1f
August 12th, 2010, 03:04 PM
This is my first ChoW that I have entered and I am pretty happy with the way it turned out. If you have any critiques or see anything that needs to be changed/tweaked I would like to hear your opinion.

Yazuki Wolf
August 12th, 2010, 03:32 PM
Hello everyone, this is my first time coming on CHOW.

I got a late start on this one, but hopefully I`ll be able to finish by the end of the week.

http://th06.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2010/224/e/6/W_I_P__Samael__5_hours_by_yazukiwolf.jpg

dawnusllaw
August 12th, 2010, 03:35 PM
Won't have time to finish for finals, but I couldn't pass it up.
Seems like there are a lot of WIPs missing the 3/4 rule, but otherwise, great entries!

ArghosRo
August 12th, 2010, 03:38 PM
Still in progress, don't know about the horns, what say u?

NinoCencini
August 12th, 2010, 04:33 PM
sup guys.. some really good entries here..

here is my start.. my idea was something like Dorian Gray, where Samael gets uglier and uglier as he does more evil things, so probably when he was an angel he was some of the prettiest.. (while in dorian gray that happens to the picture)

Nonobot
August 12th, 2010, 04:40 PM
I changed my idea, first one was a bit boring and I was over thinking it.
Um nom nom nom.

Gherasim
August 12th, 2010, 05:02 PM
UTC, Ming, Homerid, Alexon, and Cherubiel : i would leave more space in the direction your caracters are looking/facing...balancing the composition, make'n it open.

Arthur: :) you should make your archangel fighting a dragon.

Here is what i got...slow progress...but i have refined my concept; wich i will not describe since i don't see anyone else doing it. :yayca:

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Great CHOW!

vertebra
August 12th, 2010, 05:06 PM
heres something yo

maybe...

vertebra
August 12th, 2010, 05:08 PM
okay, maybe not... attached image seems not to be appearing. humm

Soultek
August 12th, 2010, 05:50 PM
Thought i might jump in on this one.

Initial Sketch:

http://a.imageshack.us/img683/8909/sammael001.jpg (http://img683.imageshack.us/i/sammael001.jpg/)


Some color:

http://a.imageshack.us/img826/7868/sammael006.jpg

A little more progress:

http://a.imageshack.us/img686/3097/sammael008.jpg (http://img686.imageshack.us/i/sammael008.jpg/)

ArghosRo
August 12th, 2010, 06:35 PM
Everyones is awesome!!!!!!!!!
here is some progress, let me know what you think?

Ruri
August 12th, 2010, 06:58 PM
Lots of badass fallen angels in this thread.

I'd be really grateful for any suggestions on what I could add/improve on my guy, feels like he's lacking something.

fionkell
August 12th, 2010, 07:14 PM
Some more from last night, I feel like I'm spamming the thread heh. Got to redo the leg positions again though :/

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v686/iolarnula/sketchbook13/fionkell-samael-6.jpg

vatteh
August 12th, 2010, 08:02 PM
My 2nd WIP

DragonicFlames
August 12th, 2010, 08:02 PM
Another update. I want to preserve the awesome, bad assness of the sketch. I love it so much. I really hope I don't crap it up with inking. D: But I need to clean this up so bad....

Soultek
August 12th, 2010, 08:15 PM
Small update:

http://a.imageshack.us/img341/6664/sammael013small.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/i/sammael013small.jpg/)

Ming1918
August 12th, 2010, 08:21 PM
Ok almost finished,
Not sure about the crown though.
@Gherasim
Thx man I think it would help of course,but considering the it more a piece of conept art rather than a finished illustration(ok yuo got it,I'm lazy:)
@AlotAbitAlittle
thx man,as you see I worked further with lights:)
@Athur two Sheds
The lama is a nice one!
Ok guys this is the piece,tear it apart!
Best
M

Featherwurm
August 12th, 2010, 09:28 PM
Just starting to add in color, not sure about the overall hues:

sketchibo
August 12th, 2010, 10:13 PM
Didn't get it quite as far as I would have liked today, but it's better than nothing. Tomorrow is another day!

NinoCencini
August 12th, 2010, 11:20 PM
updating


i kinda imagined it would be cool to have some reminiscence of his 'angel days'.. so i left his wing bones and he would move/shake them compulsively while talking to you.. man that would be scary ha

but im not sure if they help the design or it would be better to get rid of them, what do you think?

Soupandbutter
August 13th, 2010, 12:11 AM
Wip:

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CrookedHorn
August 13th, 2010, 01:35 AM
is it really friday?

so i've been waiting for a good opportunity to do an homage to Frank Frazetta.
so lets do this.....:rocker:
annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd go!

Broken Lawnmower
August 13th, 2010, 02:01 AM
Done! Also: so many amazing entries this week. Hot damn!

CrookedHorn
August 13th, 2010, 02:10 AM
Broken lawnmower:: if that was my last thing i saw on this earth i would be hard pressed not to mess my self.....awesome work mate.

Slainte!

Naphtali
August 13th, 2010, 03:00 AM
jsut started drawing.. dont know what i am doing...

ghūl
August 13th, 2010, 03:10 AM
coming in late, but heres a sketch...

Pate5
August 13th, 2010, 04:19 AM
I'm ready with this.

Wiggers
August 13th, 2010, 04:45 AM
Broken Lawnmower that's really nice!!

Martheart
August 13th, 2010, 06:25 AM
Finals thread is online! :D Post your awesome final stuff there!

kazerniel
August 13th, 2010, 07:21 AM
Here's my 4th WIP. I polished+ changed some more and added a few textures. I hope I can finish it tomorrow :)

Aeronik
August 13th, 2010, 08:55 AM
I was going for twisted and disturbing with this one. Here's where I'm at so far, though this may be as far as I'll get.

http://www.aeronik.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/CHO209samael01.jpg

Some wips

http://www.aeronik.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/CHOW209wips.jpg

Abrodos
August 13th, 2010, 10:18 AM
Here's something to get the rust off. I've been more than a month without drawing anything!

Quinn Simoes
August 13th, 2010, 11:00 AM
Worked on it a little last night.

Really nice work everyone!

Saleem
August 13th, 2010, 11:59 AM
a bit late but heres my wip

Ruri
August 13th, 2010, 01:13 PM
This might be close to finished, I'm having a hard time thinking what else to do to it. Anyone got any ideas? :yayca:

Zwebbie
August 13th, 2010, 03:01 PM
I think I'm about done, but I'm open to suggestions :) .

http://www.joeyspijkers.com/contests/CHOW209WIP2.jpg

DefiledVisions
August 13th, 2010, 03:02 PM
more wip, everyone is looking awesome :)


http://conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1040615&stc=1&d=1281729587

alexson
August 13th, 2010, 03:57 PM
Aeronik that looks great, good job!
Update on my wip. close to finished I think, any feedback appreciated.

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Penpoint
August 13th, 2010, 04:26 PM
here are a few posts of my process..
working from a few painting references and imagination
trying to ground the figure in his seat better before final
any thoughts?

some great work on here so far!
cant wait to see all the finals

Carrion
August 13th, 2010, 05:45 PM
Amazing entries on this topic!

Aeronik - your take on this character is definitely my favourite! Awesome...

vertebra
August 13th, 2010, 05:47 PM
A lot of sexy stuff to look at.

information gets lost on the left hand side, prob some more tweaks before final but here's my angry sam.

sketchibo
August 13th, 2010, 05:55 PM
Lots of sweet stuff in here!
I think I'm about ready to call this done. Anyone have any thoughts/suggestions before I wrap it up?

Lianti
August 13th, 2010, 06:16 PM
Here is a WIP i've been working on few hours. No ref. used so pose may be wonky. I'm stuck on the hair, can't move pass it...

Homerid
August 13th, 2010, 06:37 PM
Last update :)

NinoCencini
August 13th, 2010, 07:25 PM
i'm not quite sure about this background.. just started to add stuff but i dont know if it all fits..

but i'm done i guess.. what do you think?

btw, there are some cool entries here

DefiledVisions: Man that's great.. seriously its just a sketch but i think it's awesome

aeronik: that's cool dude, i like his pose and his face looks very psychotic

broken lawnmower: some of the best i guess.. the scene seems very tense.. like something is about to happen :)

quinn simoes: dude i love your style.. your stuff has so much depth and the design of his head is awesome

Obliviongrin
August 13th, 2010, 07:45 PM
Now I think it's finished.....

fdisk
August 13th, 2010, 08:43 PM
Good job Oblivion; this is what Dragon Quest IX's cover would have looked like if Frazetta had painted it LOL

Carnifex
August 13th, 2010, 09:29 PM
curses! not sure i'll be able to finish this on time. inspiration struck late this week.
the light in front is from an artificial light source i guess.

Aeronik
August 13th, 2010, 11:42 PM
Some cool stuff going folks.

Alexson, if I was going to make any suggestions it would be to get a bit more form in the wings (and I should probably follow my own advice here too). Here's the ref I used:

http://www.aeronik.com/images/chow209_cormorant.jpg

The local cormorants are most obliging the way they hold their wings out for inspection.

Featherwurm
August 14th, 2010, 02:30 AM
I've been having real problems coloring this one, I think it's the lack of appropriate ambient lighting on the character (and some anatomy problems, my bad for not finding good reference material first). Anywho, bit more refinement, I'm hoping to fix those mistakes (best I can) and finish up tomorrow.

britt
August 14th, 2010, 04:00 AM
Here's what I have so far.

gunnarsson
August 14th, 2010, 10:20 AM
just thought i could post it here and see if anyone had any final advice. I know it isnt to polished, but i had little time. might get my hands on a computer again, but probably not.:) good work to all, lots of goodies in the thread

Featherwurm
August 14th, 2010, 11:24 AM
I love how yours came out Gunnarsson, both in concept and execution. Are you using Photoshop, Painter, or another program?

Obliviongrin
August 14th, 2010, 01:08 PM
Aeronik Looks finished to me - great pose and concept!

AlotAbitAlittle
August 14th, 2010, 02:16 PM
A late start...good thing for rainy days.

EDIT :: A little more progress.

CrookedHorn
August 14th, 2010, 06:45 PM
alotabitalittle:: Im really digging the lion helmet and that left hand looks awesome :)

CrookedHorn
August 15th, 2010, 02:22 AM
BALLIN'!
:rocker:

gravityonme
August 15th, 2010, 09:38 AM
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e64/sidkumar/fallenangelchowpaintcopy.jpg

Here's what i have so far.. hope i finish it...

Carnifex
August 15th, 2010, 10:13 AM
bit more noodling.

Martheart
August 15th, 2010, 02:16 PM
There's a tiny deadline extension: 30 minutes. My apologies!

jrbarker
August 19th, 2010, 07:53 PM
Didn't get this one finished on time.