View Full Version : MARCH self portraits!!! already!
March 1st, 2004, 05:30 AM
I cant believe how quick febuary went man... Well, here is to another month of faces... not feces...
March 1st, 2004, 09:05 AM
March 1st, 2004, 06:22 PM
this scanned really badly
you guys have been busy :chug:
March 1st, 2004, 07:00 PM
March 1st, 2004, 10:29 PM
March 2nd, 2004, 01:26 AM
I got carried away with the tools in painter, at least I learned a lot about them...
March 2nd, 2004, 02:22 AM
Doh!! Did this this morning and put it in the February thread. Tried to a portrait straight in P-Shop with no reference. Turned out... interesting, I think. Doesn't look much like me, but maybe it's a deeper look into my inner psyche, or something...:rolleyes:
Man, March already?? Where is my year going?
March 2nd, 2004, 04:09 AM
March 2nd, 2004, 09:51 AM
March 2nd, 2004, 11:43 AM
I have been busy with hw lately and it looks like it might stay that way, so that is my excuse for unfinished, not so good sp's... but none the less i will keep at it...
these are about 20 minutes each and the first one is in my sketch_book
Davi - you are intense!! posting so many of these wow :D very nice work
Roxell - cool stlye
Kanimator - not bad at all :D when you mean no reference that was straight from memory?
jook - could expect anything less from you :D cool stuff! you can't know what you what you can do until you go to far.
bhuddistmonk - much better :D you should now try to see form and shapes of your face. try using one light source on from a side or above direction. and remember that th eraser is not your enemy it is your friend, that is just as useful as your pencil :D
March 2nd, 2004, 01:12 PM
Everybody looking so good in March !
March 2nd, 2004, 03:16 PM
March 2nd, 2004, 04:01 PM
J.Mac: yup, straight outta my head.
March 2nd, 2004, 04:59 PM
(these are on my new tiny A6 sketchbook)
March 2nd, 2004, 08:54 PM
March 3rd, 2004, 04:59 AM
gah, watercolor tools :mad:
March 3rd, 2004, 06:03 AM
killing... yeah man.. watercolors are tough.. I like the two before this one a lot better. Still gives off some cool textures though...
Blackhawk... yeah man, I am really feeling this one...
Jens... That bottom one has a nice caricature feel to it.
nil... glad to see your face here. you may want to do a bunch of studies just focusing on the shape of your head.. get a feel for constructing the head, not outlining it when drawing. nice amount of details though.
davi... WOA! total bombardment of SP's. That last one makes you look a little chunky :D. I really like the one just before the most recent one.
king... cool little sketch, has a classical feel to it.. looks like it was done from a photo? still cool though, I just keep hearing how much more you learn from drawing from real life or mirrors, though I dont see why some pieces cant just be done for fun...
J.Mac... THat first sketch is pretty cool. I like the bottom one with your hand grabbing your face too. I have been meaning to try one of those, but have been too afraid to do so.. I am a pussy... perhaps tommorrow nights..
Roxell... Kurt Cobain? haha... only kidding.. I love the inkage there..
Kanimator... THat is a cool little exorcise. I have done that before and it was surprisingly easier than I thought (mabey because I have done like a hundred of these...) though it wasnt up to par as the ones with a mirror or anything liek that.. Yours turned out really nice and it looks very similar to most of your other ones. the main thing is the structure of the jaw and mouth seem pretty jacked... good show none the less.
jook... your last one was retarded... are you retarded? i think yes...
March 3rd, 2004, 07:35 AM
O.M.G...so tired, so lazy and SO BEHIND. I never did catch up my comments last month. You can tell how tired I am -- this took less than twenty minutes fiddling around with watercolors and chalk in painter. *just wants to sleep* But I've falllen behind so much...just further proof how things can murder you if you don't stay on them.
jook :: So much fun to PLAY! XD The one where you got "carried away" looks so alien.
davi :: I really enjoy your style -- they're all fabuous SPs. My favorite ones so far are the latest b/w and the muddy colored one with the chunky strokes.
nil :: Very angular SPs -- a little more of that makes for a fun shading technique. Maybe try to vary the length of your strokes?
bhuddistmonk :: Simple and clean, looks like it's off to a good start for an outline, would love to see some finished work :D
Kanimator :: You make the color blending look so effortless. I am jealous.
Roxell :: I dig the style -- what did you use to do that?
J.Mac :: Once again, you are the master of your eyes. The depth you get in the planal values of your face are wonderful.
king :: Looks like a fun and fearless sketch. I like the face in the bottom left.
Jens :: Your eyes and mouth in your last one look partlcularly good, pretty.
Blackhawk and killing.people :: Stunning. You guys are the masters.
March 3rd, 2004, 08:58 AM
50min I think I´m getting better at drawing "quick" :D
jook: Don´t you love the feeling of being carried away :) viva las computer :rolleyes: PS: My mind is more flawed than yours :hmm: tss retard :)
davi: liked the lightsource coming from the back as well creates a "nice" feeling to the sp:s
Nil: yep hope you get even more busier ;)
bhuddistmonk: love to see the finished version
kanimator: from memory thats great
roxell: do you scan in black&white mode or greyscale?
J.mac: 20 min sketches I liked them
jens: In your last one it seems like you chopped of a little bit of the top of your head, prob. wrong but check it out and tell me.
Blackhawk: I´m a sucker for the black and red combo, liked the way you renedered your face
killing.people: like your sp
asbestoshazard: Thought you looked sick in your last sp then I read the text so i guess you nailed the feeling, when I´m really tired I look sick
King: loose style like it
edited a lot of spelling errors hm got to get a swedish-english dictionary
March 3rd, 2004, 11:28 AM
my tongue got dry withtis one hehe :D
fun though, i have realize being to diagramatical is not a good thing some times, i need a healthy diet of caligraphy and analytical lines... yeup
Mindflaw - cool i like your style and the way you do your sp's. i like the platters, to bad you sp's are kind of flat. unless that is what you are intending to do.... good work!
asbestoshazard - Thanks :D sleepy sleepy that is what i would say by the looks of you sp. you caught the mood nicely, gets some rest and post more!
Jens - i have the magical morphing face sometimes too! shite happens you know, the out side of the face drives me crazy as well. good style though me like :D
jook - thanks man :D cool pose doing that is hard to get to look right, and yous eem to do a pretty good job of handleing it :)
killing - nice textures wow i like how that it looks. so interesting! fun to look at :D
BH - ah colours i can't wait until you finish one it will be intense that is all i have to say! :D
nil - good start keep at it
king - i really like the looseness in that is a very good feature you have going there
davi - you are a machine :D
Kanimator - cool, i should try somehting like as well :D
p.s. - just noticed that i always get the bridge of my nose wrong...
March 3rd, 2004, 01:26 PM
asbestoshazard - J.Mac - Mindflaw - Jook -- Thank you for your comments - you and everyone here has got creative amazing styles.
March 3rd, 2004, 03:27 PM
March 3rd, 2004, 07:40 PM
hey guys, actually spent some time on this one :)
dont have time to crit anyones work, sry, i will later, promise!
March 4th, 2004, 12:50 AM
A lot nice stuff going on this month! Thought I'd do one.
March 4th, 2004, 03:36 AM
my rendering sucks. more contrast?
jook: thanks. im not entirely sure what you mean about not outlining. i think i kinda get what youre saying...stupid brain. draw the planes right? ;)
asbestoshazard: thanks. the mouth on that last one looks to be on a slightly different angle to the rest of the face. ha! im terrible with that myself. :p
J.Mac: i plan to. your SPs have changed so much...
mindflaw: busy busy
cire600: i find that strangely obscene and deeply disturbing. nice one! :D
i dont know what to say to you all apart from keep it up!
March 4th, 2004, 04:02 AM
I tried out the watercolors in painter for serious this time... coupled with the ink tools in there... very neat stuff...
nil... yeah man... draw the planes. basically if you were to trace over a 2d picture, you would be outlining the shapes. I am saying think of the object you are drawing as a 3d object and construct it thinking about depth and stuff... I wish I knew of a better way to describe it. And yees, I think more contrast would help that one... keep at it man...
jens... that one is so nice and clean. it looks great man.. ever use color for these SP's?
cire600... that is fantastic. love the colors... and tentacles make better "eyes" that balls do anyways...
bhuddistmonk... glad to see you did put some nice time into this one. it shows... the eyes are a bit off symetry though.. and you look a little ass-kicked:D ;)
Blackhawk... cool man.. no really, it looks like you are cold in there.. funny how it looks like you have a red nose with no color.. things like that stand out as skillful to me.. unless it was an accident in which case you suck ;) I only kid... looks good.
king... interesting just like your last..
J.Mac... thanks for the compliment.. I feel like I really am not handling it though.. I just fake my skill with time and guessing lucky... I dont know its hard to explain.. I like the way you draw your nose and eye area...
mindflaw.. your best one so far. looking good. watch that you never let one eye be at a different height agian.. it hurts my face to see that. I really like the way you handled the hair on top of your noggin. maybe think about doing some studies of your individual features seperatly.. esp. the mouth and eyes.
asbestoshazard... looking great even though it shows you look as tired as you say. the white highlights add a lot...
March 4th, 2004, 10:25 AM
J.Mac:thanks for the comments nope I´ll have to work on that. I have trouble breaking my face down into planes I guess and controling the splatter.
bhuddistmonk: You got the hair real good
cire600: great sp
nil: try using a softer pencil when you do the darker parts
Jook: thanks for the comments and yes the eyes I´m going to start using "helplines" and yes I will do studies thanks for the advice. About your latest sp I think it´s to much going on in the backgound... I like those round "stains" though, keep up experimenting
Jens: as jook said it´s clean... I myself always get it smudged by accident when using pencil... any good advice except keep your hand off the paper?
Well now I must run to the train going away for couple of days. I´ll be back :D
March 4th, 2004, 01:30 PM
slow start for me this month, but here is number 1..
I dont like it much, i think i should avoid the airbrush, it seems like a good idea but often flattens and distorts things, when i use it anyway...
March 4th, 2004, 02:37 PM
eh i don't know... my hair was crazy when i woke up this morning. this does and doesn't look like me... i have no idea what i did wrong?!
Ni* - i think you should try other tools and play with brushes don't just stick with one tool.
mindflaw - just practice :D you will get it aslong as you want it. have fun on your trip and bring back some good sp's!
jook - that is a cool sp. it looks like your eyes and brow line are off in there placement to the rest of your face :D
nil - interesting composition :D your lips seem to be miss placed slightly unless you are making a face. i hope my sp's are changing for the better :p keep them coming!
jens - looks good! i like the lines you use, your lips seem to be alittle small.
circe600 - intense man! tha is different i must say i like everything about it :D
bhuddistmonk - that looks good, i like that you actuall spent time on this piece it shows. it seems that y ou have elongated your face a bit but the width seems to be fins. try measuring more with your proportions. just in the begining so you know you are heading on the right path. good work i think you should do more like this one.
BH - cool work but "imo" i think this doesn't really look like you to much...it might be the hat...
king - thanks man! cool one is it ink and watercolours?
p.s i think it actually might be the lips that are really throwing this one off... not sure though
March 4th, 2004, 03:30 PM
voila! another tool used :-p
oils this time, i prefer this one but the far side of the face stumped me again.
jmac- just saw your post before i uploaded this image, the square chalk is a bit of a comfort tool for me in painter.
March 4th, 2004, 04:01 PM
Cool i am glad that you used a different tool today! "imo" i think when it comes to finding the out side of the face you should become more structural with the form just so you can figure out what is going on. or atleast that is what i do... good work though keep pushing your self!
i figured it out about my face in this sp, my face is to skinny and the mouth is to big. i am going to rework this one some more later b/c i really like the out side edge of my face ont his one for some reason.
March 4th, 2004, 07:15 PM
another one tonight, just asketch. some measuring errors but it kind of looks like me. I wanted to do a simple one so i used oil brush at a really small size, for some reason i mess up when i use the pencil :-p
jens- take care of the height of your eyes on your face, and the size of them
March 4th, 2004, 08:34 PM
daaaahaha i look like a super hero.
couldnt be bothered drawing my ears.
jook: drawing the planes :rolleyes:
mindflaw: yeah i guess my hb mechanical pencil aint cutting it :)
j.mac: yeah i got interrupted just before doing my lips :mad: think i must have changed the position of my head. and yeah, theyre definitely improving. actually, i especially like that last one.
blackhawk: i think your right (our left) eye s crawling up your face a bit on that last one.
March 4th, 2004, 09:02 PM
nil... that is looking MUCH better than your last two man... good job man.. keep it up...
ni*. that last one is great man. sometimes simple is just better..
jens... once again, it is great, though the eyes may be a bit too high on the head.... I had that same problem for the longest time as well... no mirror.. what I ended up doing is taking the mirror door of my medicine cabinet off of its hinges and using that.. ghetto? yes... still works... haha... also, I see mirrors at walmart for 5 buck or so when I go there...
J.Mac.. thanks and you were totally right about the eyebrow ridges.. off. Ever do those SP's where they look great the minute after you finish it but come back a few hours later or the next day and look at it and think it is lame? that is how that one is for me. thanks for pointing that out for me.
I think you posted a pic of yourself earlier. Just going off of memory, I think your face was rounder and not so tall.. Are you making the nose too long, stretching your face? also I think your cheek bones didnt have such a sharp angle to them, they were more rounded. also your chin may be less pointy... hope I am right on at least a few of these points.. I still like the way you draw your eyes...
March 5th, 2004, 03:37 AM
Just a pencil one tonight. I'll do a color one, and get to some comments, after my milestone at work on Monday.
March 5th, 2004, 10:36 AM
cire- sweet and creepy :)
ni- nice colours. i have a favourable side too, its weird.
jmac- aj style cheek bones :P
monk- nice ones
jook- last one shows a lot of improvement
asbestos - awesome, ive never used watercolours
killing- your crazy man. looks so good those watercolours
jens- good sketches
nil- planes are good. whenever i do it though i look like superman too :). its good to get form down though for sure
starting to see my face
March 5th, 2004, 10:48 AM
Jook that is great! kick my ass that is what i want and need from this place :D This last sp that i did seemed to be good when i was doing it but when i got back from classes to work on it..... oh wow i was like damn this would be easier to fix by doing another one from scratch. Thanks man i appreciate your comments very much!
March 5th, 2004, 04:34 PM
I'm new to this forum. :)
March 6th, 2004, 04:22 AM
March 6th, 2004, 06:58 PM
Thought I would mix things up a bit.... :D
Man, being sick on a Saturday sucks!! :mad: Oh well, at least I got to do some fun 3d outside of work. This is actually the first 3d I've done at home in a looooooong time.
March 6th, 2004, 08:37 PM
another today... I am happy with this one, I think it most closely resembles me of all of mine so far...
Kanimator... That is a great idea! I was thinking of doing that but I dont know man, I am not sure I have that type of patience.. still turned out neat, though it would look better with its smoothing groups in place (I realize that this isnt really supposed to be a finished piece.. I think? )
Skank... you like your lip piercing, dont you?
king... another solid sketch... these are neat..
poopdecker... That is a funny name... I like the dark outlne around your head, mabey it would have turned out cool if you carried that thick of a line through to some of the hair? I dont know.. nice to see another new face... lets see some more...
J.Mac... yeah man, no problem. I am sometimes afraid to give crits because I am by no means a great artist. I feel like people will read what I say and think "is he retarded?" I guess dont take my crits as the final and only correct way, just kinda how I see it... Still I am glad you appreciate it...
endregan... Thanks man... THat one is looking really good, with the exception of having one eye larger than the other. The shape of the head is looking solid... With my scanned in pencil drawings I like to sometimes change up the values in photoshop to givve it more contrast, maybe consider that?
March 6th, 2004, 11:43 PM
hi march spodforum
havnt been here in a while, havnt much of an excuse either.
someone razz me or something.
March 7th, 2004, 02:23 AM
Here's another sp
I really like Blackhawk's SP's & Killing_People's SP's - keep it up guys! :chug:
March 7th, 2004, 03:08 AM
hey guys, as always i never have crits for anyone, just praises of how good everyones sketches always look.
heres mine, bad shading, but im going to spend mroe time on my sp tonight.
March 7th, 2004, 05:44 AM
March 7th, 2004, 09:44 AM
quick sketch + quick photoshop = i need to shave.
March 7th, 2004, 05:12 PM
really enjoyed this one, so i could work into it a bit more.
and here is the same one after much more work, i feel this is one of the best i've done, so any crits would be much appreciate :-)
just a couple of comments quickly...
ladylioness- great improvement, keep pushing the shading.
Lumie- that one is lovely it looks very complete and it all fits together.
jook- your traditional realistic ones are getting better each time, take care of the direction of the nose though, colours are working better too, keep it up
sorry for missing people but there's so many people posting good work now, keep it up :-)
*edit* here's the latest version, i still see loads of little mistakes but i'm leaving them for the time being
March 7th, 2004, 11:32 PM
hey guys, been a few days since a post, been REALLY busy. heres one done in painter classic, poor mans painter 8 lol.
March 8th, 2004, 12:00 AM
/me gets hit in the face with a huge image.
March 8th, 2004, 02:57 AM
something stupid happened to this pic when I saved it in painter.. It looked really crappy becasue I think I saved it at too low of a quality... I tried to fix it in photoshop but it still looks fudged...
bhuddistmonk... THat one is looking good man. improved over your other ones...
Ni... very nice. one of your most finished ones I have seen... good job.
malicious... you are ugly;) :D :chug: I only jest... Nice to see a familiar face in a distant land...
LUMEi ... hot damn! looks great! and hi!
LadyLioness... great job on this one! I like that you went with an angle on this one. You nailed the eyes... improved!
poopdecker... another good one. Love the shading..
wazzo... I think I remember you from a long time ago when I would look through this forum but never post. anyways, I like the interesting composition and cartoon shading... Interesting background as well...
March 8th, 2004, 04:40 AM
grr. i kept getting interrupted throughout this one, so it probably looks really munty, i know the mouth is off at least. the only thing i could find that was softer than my hb was a 6b graphite stick. i really hate those things.
March 8th, 2004, 02:16 PM
had a really bad day, then some theraputic drawing which was turning out quite pleasing, got eaten by a painter crash. so i thought i'd have a go at drawing an expression, this is what the mirror see when painter crashes.
i think it looks more comical that angry though...
bhuddistmonk- could you scale that image down a little so we can see it?
March 8th, 2004, 06:52 PM
March 8th, 2004, 06:58 PM
I drew at work on a post-it note.
I don't like it - but I posted it anyway. :(
I wish they made post-it notes bigger. :)
ball point pen & a post-it note
March 8th, 2004, 10:36 PM
Jook - LOL, I'd like to claim I had skill, but I think it's more of working my ass off and it coming through. Watch your eye shape and proportions.
Right now your portraits have the features out of place on a lot of them, although a few them are working. The one problem I notice of yours though is the nose form. Model the planes around your nose better, right now it looks flat.
J. Mac - Yeah, my last one didn't look like me too much. It turned out to be more of a value study. Your face is this one looks really long and I believe your eyes feel like your out of placement. I liked that straight-edge study you did of your head awhile ago, it had good proportions too it, try that again and work it all together.
Ni - Your SP's feel like they are getting stronger and stronger. Good colors on this last one too. Try different head angles, poses, work some different vibes into it. Experiment my man.
Nil - It may have been, that last one wasn't my best one I've done. Good plane study, proportions are off though. Watch the top of the head, mouth, and the shape and size of the eyes.
Poopdecker - Thank you and welcome. You have some crazy eyes in the last one.
Kanimator - Great work. Your last 2D piece the face looks a little flattened out. Either your values or lineweight had something to do with this, nice 3d portrait though. I need to try do one of these days.
I'll comment on more later this evening, have to head out for a bit. Awesome work overall everyone.
March 8th, 2004, 10:55 PM
hey guys, NOT happy with this one, but these are gonna be daily so i have plenty of time to improve.
Blackhawk- nice one, love the nose highlights
poopdecker- thats awsome
Nil- keepin it simple, i like it, but perhaps you should add some more detail & watch the arm anatomy, you have a huge elbow
Ni* - I really like your color usage, but maybe you should a few more specific colors to give a less blurry feel.
Jook- I like it, very simple and cartoony
lumei- thats a gorgeous sp, im jealous. very nice simple texture and sense of lighting
Malicious- just keep practicing, that one isnt bad, kinda cartoony.
March 9th, 2004, 05:10 AM
here's mine, i've yet to purchase painter 8 and a wacom wouldn't go amiss! oh well, good ol' graphite for now.
well done everyone else, great work!:)
March 9th, 2004, 05:39 AM
I was fairly happy with tonights... :chug:
-The Swift-... graphite suites you well.. I like the rendering. Chin may be a bit small... might be be due to too long of a nose or forhead... It is nice to see a pretty face instead of most of us uglies..(well me anyways..) I wanna see more of your face ;)
bhuddistmonk.. I like where you are going with that hair, neat testure effect, it would be cool to see you try this throughout the rest of the face... guessing it is not finished.. your jaw bose is brobably less rounded than that. I am not too keen on having no neck so that the head is just floating there, just a personal preference...
Blackhawk... yeah man. thanks for the tips. I really do have a tough time with the eyes.. I dont try to keep that a secret. I am trying many different methods to see how I like best to paint them in. funny how something so simple and small can give me so much shit. As far as the nose goes, I admit to not putting as much attention into them as I should. I'll make a mental note to put more effort into that region..
oh yeah, your newest one is sweetness...:D
poopdecker... good work for using such a small space and not being able to erase..
nil... interesting approach. gotta be tough and tiring on the arms to draw in that position.. seems good.. keep them coming..
Ni*... I have those days every time I walk into my job (safeway deli clerk, suck!). you got the feeling across in that one, I love the streak effect.. agreeing with blackhawk, your SP's all have a very similar feel to them, mabey experiment a bit and try different approaches.. there are infinate possibilities...
March 9th, 2004, 06:09 AM
From yesterday. Looking at this now I see lots of errors :/
Keep it up everyone.
March 9th, 2004, 08:15 AM
Here's mine for today. Done in colored chalks. I've never gotten up the courage to draw a self portrait, but here you are!
Rash Overdrive: I like the technique! But have you smudged the bridge of your nose? Maybe it would've looked better if you kept with the general theme of the picture. Other than that, I think it was Kick Ass :D
Ni*: I liked the one where painter had crashed on ya!
LUMEi: Love the feeling you've got there! Kinda quiet-like.
btw: How do you guys get the pictures uploaded into the threads? I can only insert URLs....
March 9th, 2004, 10:48 AM
I´m back from my trip, my computer crashed when I had written all but one comment well shit happens
Heres a quick one 15min everything are more or less off, but likeness is somehow pretty good anyway...sorry Jook to hurt your face once more :cry:
"Why do you got so big ears? Thats because I´m going to hear you better":D
Jens: thanks for the tips
Jook: In some of your sp:s you explore the really black colours. I´ve seen some godd watercolour-artist that blend the black themself thus making it shift a little in dark purple, violet tones but still "being black" really cool and vibrant you should test that if its possible using a computer.
J.Mac: I had fun, no time doing sp:s. I rarely meet my family.
Nil: Using a graphite stick in an A6-format I do understand why you hate it
Skank: Why not do one with only the glasses and the piercing thus making a sp with things thats not you but a part of your "personality" anyway
Kanimator: cool to see a 3d sp Ni*: imo I think you should have completed the neck and shirt to beeing a part of you and keeping it in the same style, a good sp though
Dcept: Use the IMG button and write the url there and the pic will show
Sorry about not rewriting all my comments but they were of the kind that wouldn´t help you anyway, keep posting.
March 9th, 2004, 12:57 PM
pencil with added backdrop & highlights in Photoshop :)
March 9th, 2004, 04:50 PM
frustratd with work at 11pm - i do a quickie.
This is for BH - sory 4 T7 mate - i'll post those things when i'll get some time, ok?
Keep up the great stuff. You ALL rock!
March 9th, 2004, 07:24 PM
hey guys, not much time to spend on this one :(
March 9th, 2004, 09:32 PM
Oblio, I completely understand buddy, sometimes people get too busy, I know the feeling. Whenever you get it done, I still want to see it bud.
March 10th, 2004, 05:27 AM
The drawing part of my brain was being mean to me, so I just grabbed a bic pen and doodled a bunch of quickies. Alot of them don't look like me, but it's kinda funny how some ended up looking like characatures.
March 10th, 2004, 01:05 PM
thanks for the comments, i tried to do something different but the sketch turned into something samey...
no time for comments right now, sorry..
March 10th, 2004, 02:55 PM
Hello guys! After spring break I've got two big self portrait assignments so I'm trying to get some practice in. I want to do one a day this week.
monday (also a DSG entry - sorry for the cross post)
I feel kinda odd giving crits since I'm the new girl, but I also want to participate so here goes.
Ni* - Your portraits have a consistancy and attention to form that makes me think they are very accurate. Doing that long one and refining it seems to have really helped - since then they look even better.
Kanimator - I like all those sketches of you! i think you should watch the jaw line, that's what seems to vary the most sketch to sketch in terms of how wide, how pointy and how far from the lips it is.
Bhuddistmonk - I see alot of outlines in your portraits, maybe it'd be good to switch it up by trying to do one where you use no lines, just values to build up the form. In the end, the bone structure under the details is more important than the nostrils and such.
Poopdecker - pen is unforgiving! I see alot in your portraits a sort of flattening at the top of your head and the eyes are very high... Or maybe the whole face is a bit large for the rest of the head you've drawn, check it out - I could certainly be wrong, after all I've never seen you. :)
More comments tomorrow. ;)
March 10th, 2004, 06:42 PM
March 10th, 2004, 07:18 PM
Velo: Thanks, your portraits are nice, by the way. And a nude?...:emb: Heh, anyway, thanks for the comments on my SPs. Heh, the chin was bothering me so much, that towards the end I shaved off my chin hair to see what my jaw really looked like. :rolleyes: Proportions have always been kind of hit and miss with me, I just happen to have a slightly better chance of hitting most of the time. It's really something I want to work on, maybe I should start doing some proportion focused exercices.
Blackhawk: Cool triptic, you should try doing a more finished portrait along these lines. I like the middle expression, by the way.
March 10th, 2004, 07:45 PM
Rock on Blackhawk! Cool stuff
Velo - Yeah, their might be a certain inconsistency in my drawings - it depends on how fast I do them & how tired I am. Thanks for the criticism though.
It would be cool if we broke the month down to a certain medium per week - for example:
1st week of April - pencils or pens
2nd week of April - chalk or charcoal or paint
3rd week of April - digital abstract painting
4th week of April - a digital painting
It would be cool – but the dedication would have to be there. Am I going crazy or thinking too much? :(
March 10th, 2004, 10:18 PM
just an experimental sketch before bed time... i found it a little boring though, as there's not much in the way of features to draw, i need a bigger mirror :p (or just better composition)
mindflaw- i agree that adding shoulders and finishing them to the same level really grounds a SP, thanks for the feedback. take care not to make your eyes too big, take a look at the way Blackhawk represents eyes, it helped me alot.
kanimator- those quickies are great, arrange them in painter, draw the 'tweens' and make an animation! :-) ( i may do that myself...)
Velo- thanks for the kind words, i think i am getting more accurate, or more consistantly inaccurate... your s are SPs are nice, the monday one i like most, it has a kind of dreamy feel to it, i'd like to see you work into it a bit to give it more depth and fix the little perspective problem on the face.
Blackhawk- cool, lets see some more expressions :-)
poopdecker- nice shading on yours, take care not to place your eyes too high though - you may notice i do that alot too and i can never see it untill i've got alot of work done-
as for different media, nice idea. cat speak for anyone else but i do this as a part of doing what i enjoy, along with trying to learn anatomy, colour and simply holding on to a pencil and not drawing designery sketches of boxy products and gadgets. my point being, i do this when the mood takes me so i may have to join in the multi media fun sparodically. besides i got a few hundred £s of wacom to justify :-p
what about just themes or styles in the medium of your choice?
March 11th, 2004, 02:55 AM
Some quick color over a three inch ballpoint pen sketch.
I think this is the best likeness of me I've done. I realized that I've been defining the contour of my head and jaw before I even set up the proportions of the face. I kept it loose this time until everything was layed out, then I started to refine. Much easier this way. Duh.
March 11th, 2004, 03:34 AM
just another one of these damn fangled self portraits...
Kanimator... That one looks good, even with your fudged up left eye... ;) I really like how you defined the jaw and cheek-bone lines...
Ni... That one with the bright orange highlight is cool, I like that play on extreme light and color. Remember to shade the eyes as well, your eye whites all seem to be the same value...
poopdecker... cool man.. interesting choice of having a bit of color in the background butnot in you.. I like how you handled the reflected light onto your right side of the face...
Blackhawk... Love the composition.... that is a really fun one...
Velo... I absolutely love the colors on that bottom one (week before). they are intense... All of them seem pretty consistant.
bhuddistmonk... For a really quick one, things seem to be in the generally right place.. nice job mate...
March 11th, 2004, 08:22 AM
Been watchin this thread for a while, I got a question...
I can draw other people fine, no hitch, but when I try to do a self-portrait I get caught up in the details, as well as thinking "damn I should change shampoo" or something. And it always turns out bad. I can't look at myself objectively. I was wondering if anyone has a remedy to this?
March 11th, 2004, 01:35 PM
I saw all the great work posted and had to join in.
March 11th, 2004, 03:32 PM
hey cue, i understand the problem here. Self portraits are just like any other, except you have the best model, who can fit your exact needs. As for when your mind catches on your flaws and details.....self portraits simply take guts and discipline. At first they take a lot of energy out of you because its you, and you want to make yourself look good. This takes practice and the critiquing of others. Keep trying and you will succeed.
March 11th, 2004, 06:38 PM
Had some extra paint left over from an illustration I was working on.
March 11th, 2004, 07:21 PM
Several friends have said that I draw my cheeks too "puffy" so I tried to tone that down in this one.
Joe - I like the blue lighting, I think it looks a bit incongruous because you didn't carry through with it in the hair. I think the whole side of the head would be effected instead of just the strip at the edge.
Erikrose - Really nice! You've moved beyond the rather expressionless 3/4 view. ;) But what's all that black on his arm from above elbow to the fingers?
Cue- I had the same problem. I think in a large part it's because people come in with alot of notions about how they look, "my nose is big" or whatever, and it can be hard to overcome those and really look at yourself objectively the way you could look at a stranger. I'm getting alot better just with practice. Do one, set it aside for a day, go back and look at it and see what's off. Maybe show it to some friends & get their opinions. Then try to fix the problems in the next one.
Jook - I think something is off about the line of the jaw in relation to other features of your face. I've seen it in several of your self portraits. Draw a line with a ruler through the outside corners of the eye, at the base of the nostrils, through the corners of the lips and then from the direction change in the side of the jaw. Not the chin, but where the jaw moves more sharply towards the ears. I think you will find that they don't quite line up right, all the lines won't be parallel.
Kanimator, excellent! I like the colors in this especially. The primary teacher I have had also emphasized building the form from the inside out, from the large planes to the small details. It takes some practice but I think it's a more effective method. :)
Ni* - cool. I think a big part of recognizing a person is body language. You can recognize a friend even when they are far away and even if you can't see their face, after all. It's good to explore how the rest of your body looks, maybe try to do it in some more natural positions.
March 11th, 2004, 07:22 PM
I will write commets later - no time now, sorry. :(
March 11th, 2004, 08:28 PM
Poopdecker: Do you combine hatching and smudging? in the 031004 sp
Ni'*: thanks for the tip, atm I´m taking Jooks advice about doing only eyes and mouths so I guess I´m going to try his style when I´m at it. I got one problem though it always takes very long time for me to integrate other style into my creations, but hm... more than me that has that problem?
Jook: I like those three dots you have in the background it´s kinda like minimalistic design stuff. I think the red around your eyes get that I´m been sitting to long in front of the computer look.
Kanimator: I think I like your latest sp the best
bhuddistmonk: Could you post a little smaller, I have a hard time seeing the whole pic
erikrose: Nice composition
Joeslucher : Like the crude style it reminds me of an artist... and of course I don´t remember his name atm
Velo: did your new approach work (the less puffy)?
EDIT: I GOT INTERUPTED:bash: , SO I FINISH MY COMMENTS NOW INSTEAD
BH: Like your sp:s
cue: I had a long time when I resented doing Sp:s thus making this my 12 sp I guess, but I don´t really care how I look and stuff like that...now anyways and if I do a bad sp...it doesn´t look like me anyway and if I do a good one then I´m happy about that. The problem really doesn´t exist since happiness kinda takes away the "uglyness"..eh hope that make sense to you too . My problem is instead that I don´t have the same cocentration when doing sp:s like I have when doing portraits thus making my sp:s look like shit in compared to my portraits.
March 12th, 2004, 12:08 AM
more of a weird emotion, no mirror used.
March 12th, 2004, 04:33 AM
hey, these were all so beautiful and inspiring.
thanks everyone for sharing. i noticed at least one other person with plugs, so i won't have to explain why my self portraits always have funny ears
March 12th, 2004, 06:03 AM
robots are so cool...
evolve... nice sketches... I like the shading... keep em coming...
killing.people... you are a badass man.. love the dripping motion...
Mindflaw... I am glad to see you doing these pretty regularly.. thanks. I have been trying to incorperate backgrounds into mine, just to make them more complete and presentable.. the object is only a part of the overall picture... this one seems to be a step up. watch the perspective of teh nose though...
poopdecker... probably my fav from you so far... looking good... the art, not the mug ;)
keep bringing em...
velo... yo are right. my ear need to be lowered a bit and my jaw line as well.. oh well.. I'll keep an eye out for that, along with the millions of other things that can go wrong with these things.. it is so hard to get it all right... but cheers :chug: the challenge is a good deal of the fun. your proportions seem to be spot on for this one... I like how you handled your shirt fade-out at the bottom... simple little things like that tickle my fancy for some reason...
joe... I like the colors... glad to see a traditional one here...
erikrose... that is a cool image man.. I like the composition..
March 12th, 2004, 12:04 PM
Mindflaw - hatching and the burn tool in Photoshop
jook - thanx for the compliments - I like the new one
killing.people - I love it
Ni* - Yeah maybe a different medium or theme - to make it not so restricted like an assignment.
Cue - I’m glad someone asked this question. And I think I have the answer you’re looking for, but you have to take it serious and be dedicated or else it won’t work – here is what I got for ya:
No matter what skill level you’re at, this can dramatically improve your SP’s. Also remember this will take time and practice.
Step 1: Break your face down into parts – nose, mouth, eyes, even ears.
Step 2: Pick a part of your face that you have trouble with – lets just say nose – draw your nose over and over again using a mirror until you get sick of it – and not just for 5 or 10 minutes on it - draw your nose for maybe 3-4 pages or more in your sketchbook, over a span of 2 or 3 days. Do this with all the parts of your face.
Step 3: Attempted to draw an SP using what you know about your face in those specific areas.
The key to this exercise is practice – you’re not going to wake up one morning and just draw or paint perfectly for the rest of your life – it takes time and dedication. Use yourself and you’re medium to learn – now it’s right there in front of you, an SP waiting to happen.
March 12th, 2004, 01:29 PM
:) This practice must be helping, I think this one looks the most like me so far!
Mindflaw - No, I don't think slimming the last portrait worked - I am just not that cute! As for yours, the eyes in this last self portrait seem a bit off, like they are looking two different directions. It might help to focus on the middle of your nose in the mirror (as long as it's a few feet from your head) and place your irises that way.
Killingpeople - awsome textures! dang.
Evolve - I really like your attention to detail and form with the shadows. Great work!
Jook - I think this looks alot better! Things seem to line up. :)
Jens - I love the beautiful confidence of your lines. It's so simple and looks so specific.
March 12th, 2004, 02:05 PM
no pic today, just a couple of comments;
Jook- you are getting better, much better. a level of sharpness in these would really finish them, especially around the edges.
jens- your line work is very confident, but it still looks a little cartoony because the eyes are so high and big (if that was deliberate, ignore me ;-) ) try cutting out the eyes and lowering them a little- or redraw them.
killing.people- disturbingly fascinating or fascinatingly disturbing? either way i would hang that on my wall, care to share how you made it?
mindflaw, good progress, that one looks alot better than your previous ones. the position of the pupil really effects where the subject is looking, i always have to redraw my eyes to prevent me being cross eyed :-p
Velo- do us all a favour and finish that one, it looks like a great start to a really confident and honest SP, keep the slight smile on the face and you'll have a lovely piece of work.
erikrose- lovely, how did you do it?
joeslucher- nice colours, i think you need a lighter shade on the side of the nose to pull it out from the face a little, good work.
ps, is anyone else ever tempted to try to complete or add to an SP on here that they like? i'm tempted to do that quite often, just to see if it turns out looking more or less like the inteded subject - thats not to say i could make it better, just think it would be interresting, no?
March 12th, 2004, 03:23 PM
Thanks to everyone with compliments about the color and I agree about lightening the side of the nose. I've decided to finish it up and use it for this one illustration.
acrylic on plexiglass
BTW these were painted in Infiniti acrylics, some Australian brand who was nice enough to give me and 14 other classmates 20 free tubes of paint each so they deserve some recognition.
March 12th, 2004, 07:27 PM
March 13th, 2004, 02:36 AM
Originally posted by Ni*
killing.people- disturbingly fascinating or fascinatingly disturbing? either way i would hang that on my wall, care to share how you made it?
it was fueled by a little supressed emotion that needed to be released,
i became childishly obsessed over a girl. waited past the expiration date and decided to throw a rock at a distantly removed window of opportunity. i hit the window, but the window was closed and it broke.
so, i downloaded some grandaddy, portishead, and cannibal ox.
opened painter 7 and i painted in blacks and barely noticalbe grays, i painted nothing for about an hour. didnt feel like looking in the mirror. trippled it's size and got lost in it. and painted a confused fool that is only hurting himself. it felt good to express something, i felt much better after painting for a few hours. and it began to rain and the night was all better.
when i was done you could hardly see it, so i opened it in photoshop and adjusted the brightness and contrast. and posted it on the internet.
i used the smeary round at different sizes. i used the smear tool. and i used the distort tool, i think it was called for the drips.
you now have more then you could have ever wanted to know ;)
March 13th, 2004, 02:41 AM
ship-faced. so many textures.
will post comments later..
March 13th, 2004, 04:10 AM
dont have time to comment. my sincerest apologies...
March 14th, 2004, 12:28 AM
I'm happy. :D
March 14th, 2004, 04:03 AM
I've been some kinda nasty sick all day. But I couldn't sleep so I decided I might as well do today's self portrait:
Longest one yet, 45 min in Painter. Now I sleep.. sorry, comments tomorrow.
March 14th, 2004, 05:43 PM
March 14th, 2004, 06:58 PM
this one swung between best i've done and poor effort, i tried to use a wide range of colours and tried to do a view that was less dependant on the mirror.
not sure how well it worked, still lacking in contrast i think..
March 14th, 2004, 07:13 PM
Velo - Do you always paint yourself naked? :)
Blackhawk - your missing an eye. Eye or not it still rocks!
March 15th, 2004, 05:12 AM
Blackhawk, may I ask what medium you're using. If digital, what program and brush?
March 15th, 2004, 11:45 AM
Yesterday was the last day of spring break, and I did do a self portrait! So I made my goal. :)
I was interrupted before I could finish it, so it is just a quick sketch. I was mostly interested in the face and the foot... which I suppose is obvious. ;)
Poopdecker - Nah, I think I've posted about half and half (clothed or not). I just dont get dressed if I am not already, and I think it's always a good idea to include some of the body with the face otherwise it's just a weird decapitated head, ya know? :) Sorry if it bothered you! I always recognize your self portraits because of the medium and the style, but there is quite a bit of facial structure change from one to another. I wonder which you think looks the most like you?
Ni* - I think with more practice you can pull off the wide range of colors more convincingly. It looks rather contrived in this one, but that's nothing to worry about - with practice I'm sure you'll quickly improve.
Blackhawk - awsome, as always. I wonder why your nose is always the most detailed, 3-d part of the portrait, making it the focus? You're certainly good at painting it!:)
March 15th, 2004, 07:53 PM
good job velo, nice studies.
March 15th, 2004, 08:09 PM
Just having fun with some post-it notes. :)
Velo - I think the first SP I did on page 2, looks the most like me.
March 15th, 2004, 09:24 PM
March 16th, 2004, 12:53 AM
March 16th, 2004, 04:19 AM
damn, some of you guys are nuts. i'm jealous. here's the latest, done with red and brown color pencils. (no erasing) the paper had too much of a tooth for the pencils to look good. oh well. http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/v103/shawnhebrank/sk4.jpg
(edit-sorry it's huge, will try and fix )
March 16th, 2004, 10:18 PM
This week is study nose, lips and eyes week. I´ve been doing eye-watercolour studies all failures like this one but I´m learning new stuff
Killing.people: I think your latest have more of a "disturbing" feeling to it than your previous
Jook: thanks for the comments. So you are expanding into beeing more compositional now, I like your compositions In the roboeversion of you imo you could have achieved a little more emphasis on you as the main object by making it just a little more sharp. In your "monster in the background" I liked that you used that calm blue greyisch colour that doesn´t steal the attention from you
Jens: When I have used a lot of linework correctly it doesnt´t always really look like the person until I shaded it thus getting the shapes inside the object to appear better.
Velo: I´m been thinking about the "puffy" cheeks and come up with a theory that goes: Your friend percieve you in a different manner since they are your friends they tend to focus on the beautiful parts of your face e.g your eyes, smile nose. When you show them your portraits that has focus on the form not making any details in your features like eyes they see the "puffy" cheeks that they don´t usually pay any attention to and they seems wrong, since friends tends to be more appealing the better you like them at least that how I percieve people. It´s like this girl I was interested in the way she was and thought she was beautiful, but when I got to know her better she wasn´t all that as a person and she actually become quite ugly. Anyway thats my theory which leads to that composition within the object is very important not really because of likeness (as I guess it is with your friends), but how you want to the object to be percieved, well hope this lenghty ranting actually made some sound sense, and I´m not saying your cheeks ugly.
oh and about my eyes your totally right I´m actually looking at my right eye when drawing that one and my left when drawing my left, so obvious yet I didn´t even see it, thanks for pointing that out
poopdecker: Thanks for sharing. I like your shading it looks like you give you give each line in you hatching equal attention in many of your sp:s, remember the to pay attention to the size and form of the different "segments" as they change the way you look. Writing this since I sometimes don´t pay enough attention to that matter.
Blackhawk: what to say about first one but :drool:, I liked that you choosed what you do as a way to portrait yourself in your last sp
Ni*: Thanks for the tips I usally don´t give the pupils any attention at all just put them there they didn´t seem important exept for the size beeing of important for which mood one is in, well one learns new things everyday. About your sp I don´t know where you wan´t to go with it. If it´s a more refined style as the one that you kept working with or one more up to the one seeing the sp. If that the latter is the case I got some thoughts not rooted in experience though. Anyway I think you could use more texture from the brushes use the planes even more as borders to different colour and hue (I think it´s called hue) don´t make the transitions blurry between different colours and plane imo thats creates the feeling of a photo out of focus overlap the colour slightly instead. I like the way you didn´t paint your right eye more than enough for the viewer to read it self. Well even if this thoughts are bad they might make you to paint more in a different style than your use to Well if you think I´m ranting about with suopid ideas just say so and I will think more before making comments.
Evolve: Like your latest sp imo it might have gained somewhat if you had used a really dark green instead since it´s the complementary colour to red. Hope to see you post more
Joe...: hope to see one you finished
Nova: don´t forget to post more sp when you do your comments
EDIT: SORRY for the lengthy strange comments but I wrote them about 3 am not really being awake, but I keep them since I actually wrote them :huh:
March 17th, 2004, 12:59 AM
I have been gone from this forum for a few days...
shit. I created a really nice (well I thought so) self portrait the other day and my painter totally lost my picture.. damn it all to hell... out of anger, I createda really quick and not good sketch...
March 17th, 2004, 02:58 AM
well, i appreciate people's encouragement. i tattoo for a living, and only recently started getting back into the whole "fine art" (blah-terms) deal, so i'm super rusty. charcoal used to be my thing. soon i'll try that again. i can't believe how some of you guys do such an amazing job with photoshop. i'm looking to get a wacom thing, but for now you'll be bombarded with my penciled and scanned mug.
March 17th, 2004, 03:02 AM
nice one evolve.
March 17th, 2004, 04:25 AM
I present... two crappy ballpoint scribbles that don't look like me.
PS: dating sucks @$$.:(
March 17th, 2004, 05:54 AM
a few random comments..
jook - these are nice. try simple linework, and to follow the shapes of your face very carefully
velo - nice colors, your portraits often look like you soaked them in grapejuice :)
poopdecker - i'd love to see some loose sketches from ya
ni* - radiant. i blurred my eyes and your pic became very realistic
blackhawk - your shapes are awesome
evolve - nice. full of light
killing - you're looking right through me :)
March 17th, 2004, 12:05 PM
i haven't been able to do a sp very well for about 2 weeks now :mad: it couls be the fact that i am stressed out about wheter or not i am accepted to art center but none the less it is driving me nuts not being able to work to my potential.....
i can draw some what so i don't know what my problem is lately see look a study from Velasquez not shabby
nova - really nice lines they have a certain appeal to them that goes with the style of your sp
Kanimator - you are improving nicely i must say. and dating does suck i have to agree :D
killing - rock on!
evolve - the last one is really sweet i like that one alot :D i curious to know what size you are doing your drawings at?
jook - the last coloured one is incredible wow that is all i can say!!!! :D kick some more ass why don't you :p
evryone else i am sorry for not giving crits i am just not in the right mind set latelty as you can see by my horibble drawings of my self....
March 17th, 2004, 12:22 PM
Here is one I did of myself looking at my drivers license. Its about 7 years old and I don't have long hair anymore, but who cares. Put about 30minutes into it. I already noticed a few problems, eyes are a little crossed and nose and mouth don't line up, but like I said. It was a quickie!
March 17th, 2004, 01:56 PM
having an insanely boring day/week/month.. i never thought i'd want to work so badly...
nova- yay! someone liked my colourful one, but yeah it is fuzzy, mostly due to a lack of confidence with colour, but i do like images that break up as you look closer at them. your line work is lovely, it looks so random but all fits together nicely.
mindflaw- thanks for the feedback, any and all advice is appreciated :-) again, that colour one i did is really blurry so you're right i need to be more definate. keep up with those studies :-)
also, i think you are right about seeing what you want to see when you look at a face, that is what makes this forum so interresting, everyone has an internal image of themself and it can be uncomfortable to be really honest about your appearance.. kind of like hearing your own voice on tape. which brings me to......
velo- your drawings are very honest and i really like them and i'd love it if you really worked into one of them to bring out the features.
jmac- good to see you back, give it a few more tries and i bet you get one that you are really happy with, that seems to be my pattern, about 3 or 4 half-arsed attempts before i really get going on something.
everyone else- good work, keep it up :-D
March 17th, 2004, 04:32 PM
j.mac: best of luck.
that is funny you wrote 'fuck you' over your face, i do that in my sketchbook, hehe. if you persue art center, like you do your self portraits, you have nothing to worry about.
blackhawk, as nova had mentioned, your shapes are very cool. i really am intrigued by the sketch lines you have in the last facial portrait.
nova, you portraits are very fun to look at. this last one reminders me of peter chung.
kanimator: i like your crappy ballpoint portriats.
have a good one,
March 18th, 2004, 04:29 AM
Had the urge to have a stranger jam some metal into my lip today, so I did.
Happy St. Patty's day everyone!! (well, technically it's after St. Patty's day for me, but I'm still finishing my fourth Guiness, so it still counts. ;) :beer::beer::beer::beer:
March 18th, 2004, 06:53 AM
ever have one of those evenings where you want to stab something? fuck it man... I am pissed... here is tonights self portrait... I'll get over it... fucking fuck!
sorry for the drama...
March 18th, 2004, 09:30 AM
My first ever self portrait.
March 18th, 2004, 12:30 PM
Sorry for not posting in a couple of days.
Made in Flash -- 5 minutes, no mirror.
Click here (http://www12.brinkster.com/poopdecker/self_031704.html) to zoom in on the flash if you want.
March 18th, 2004, 12:47 PM
Hadn't done a self portrait for a while wanted to get back into it again...I think this probably looks the most like me than any other ones I have done yet...Yesssss I am getting closer to capturing my ugliness...woohoo!:
http://www.mindcandyman.com/jons_uploads/self portrait 4 squinting.jpg
March 18th, 2004, 12:57 PM
Ok so this attempt "imo" was a better success then the other days but none the less still some things off. i started this one really different i kind of used Sargents aproach where i added the eyes last and started with hair first... seemed to work pretty well for me i might try it again on my next one.
pd - nice line drawings, i htink you should try to get more variations in your strokes it would add more interest and emphasis on certain areas :)
evillair - welcome!! and wow that is really good work... that is your first sp ever is it....
jook - i know what it is like just look and my last post :rolleyes: shite happens :D
Kanimator - green... lol so was this stranger a little short man with a corn pipe...? cause he got me too :p
KP - thanks alot :D much appreciated
Ni- you are being bold and it is working out fo rthe best you are becoming more confident when you are painting it seems. it would be nice if you also used cools colours mixed alittle with your warm colours. so they would have more punch. keep busting them out!
Scubasteve - welcome!
p.s. mcm - you posted right before i did lol, that looks really good i like the looseness in your strokes i think you could have some more staurated colours in there but it is still good :D
March 18th, 2004, 02:32 PM
damn mcm! nice!
March 18th, 2004, 03:34 PM
i just saw your march 10th spod and w00t yeah
...ive been waiting so long for you to throw in some new expressions and composition! hehe, i know its simple, but it delivers!
and ErikRose...phenominal lighting/contrast/shading...beautiful
...wow so many good sp's ...
kananimator, solid as always, great last one
killing.people, thats a wicked hand painting...awesome.
everyone else, try harder! haha! seriously!
hehe, but people i mentioned, you could try harder too! we all can :D
March 18th, 2004, 04:29 PM
oink – oink
March 18th, 2004, 04:53 PM
Hi don´t have time to post anything just a quick comment or two
J.mac: Nice to see you back on track
Jook and J.mac: even though the f*ck version is quite liberating, you could (if you should feel the urge to be more violent) try taking an A-3 size paper and grip a pencil with a "babygrip" and make your sp with all the "anger" you can muster up you, know get real physical and don´t forget to listen some up-speed music that´s a lot of fun :peace:
keep going all of you..now I must continue with my writing.
Edited a lot of grammar and stuff
Ni* your last sp looks like it been carved out of butter and chocolate thats cool
March 18th, 2004, 07:06 PM
i got interrupted and couldnt finish. :o
March 18th, 2004, 07:08 PM
Everybody is looking real good - keep up the good work all
Dats me !
March 18th, 2004, 07:32 PM
hey guys, went to the beach for spring break, now im back and a tad rusty
you guys are all looking really good, and jook, you are really starting to improve. Great job!
March 18th, 2004, 11:12 PM
had enough down-time to do another today,
March 19th, 2004, 01:03 AM
Hey guys, well finally did another selfportrait. i know the biggest problem is the eyes not align with the nose and mouth, it looks like it is floating away. i always seem to never focus on shading because im focusing on getting the face correct, but of course, try and try again.
March 19th, 2004, 01:50 AM
This one is kind of fun.
March 19th, 2004, 02:33 AM
see im not all talk, i do stuff!
sigh, i figured i would boot up painter for the first time in 4 months and try something so i could verify that it would be crap. and lo' it wasnt all for moot was it?
March 19th, 2004, 05:07 AM
I am feeling pissed still, but at least I can concentrate tonight.... I dont know. It has been a while since I have felt this unsettled....
wazzo... I'm trying man... I'm trying... good stuff you have... you seem to have a good grip on things...
Andrew-McIntosh... cool man... that green dude is cool as hell... I like how you brought the green into your face...
LadyLioness... looking good. oh sweet jesus you are improving. I love your attention to detail like the shape of the eyes and the shading of the eyes and nose areas... bravo.. now that you set a new standard for your self, you are not allowed to drop below it.... ever.. ;) :D
bhuddistmonk... thanks man.. I like where you were going with that one with white and red.. you gotta finish some of these man.. your proportions are getting better man...
king... the movement! looking cool... that is an exciting pic for such a simple one.
killing.people... hate when that happens man... looking goood. your more recent ones have been really smooth.. literally... I like how they have been seeming almost out of focus...
Mindflaw... I think I may get what you are saying.. like take my anger and translate it into a nice piece full of "emotion" right? hah, in most cases I would try to do that. Last night I was so angry and drunk, I physically couldn't do anything... It was very liberating to do what I did...
poopdecker... Oink.. heh...
J.Mac... yep, shit happens... that one is turning out REALLY sweet.. I was looking at a couple of months ago and noticed how much better you have been getting.. It is really cool to see that...
MindCandyMan... you are kinda infamous for your growth thread.. It is cool to see what you are becoming.. that is a force to be reckoned with...
evillair... hot damn... looking very good there.. lets see some more...
jook... dont be such a bitch ass drama queen...
Kanimator... heh.. st. pattys day. heh heh... green.. cool stuff man..
Ni*... always playing with dem colors man.. cool stuff... I think you did a good job at getting your facial expression across...
nova.... like always.. looking very nice.. very illustrative... love the linework..
evolve.... very nice stuff.. It is always great to see traditional stuff up in here...
March 19th, 2004, 10:29 AM
quicky, no time, at work.
Commenst later... :)
March 19th, 2004, 11:36 AM
March 19th, 2004, 12:00 PM
i just woke up, its early. the mouth is wierd on this, oh well, may do another today.
jook, that last one is nice, like the cool color
ev- thats an awsome eye, lots of movement
poop-i like that
March 19th, 2004, 01:53 PM
heres another less fucked up one. dirty face
March 19th, 2004, 03:04 PM
http://www.mindcandyman.com/jons_uploads/self portrait 5.jpg
jook - Thanks man! Your words are very kind...thanks man.
killing - awesome! Even unfinished!
bhuddistmonk - Don't worry it's normal to be seriously frustrated...I was really frustrated with this one for a bit...then I cooled down a bit.
J. Mac - I agree 100 percent about the colors...the lighting isn't very dramatic on me either...maybe I should make it more dramatic while I'm learning. Like your pencil one looks good...nice and structural!
cotron - Thanks bro! hehe...long time no see...thanks man
March 19th, 2004, 05:33 PM
eep. my bad, i credited that wonderful beautiful super etherial BW hand holding a pencil sketch to killing.people whilst the actual artist went un-credited.
sorry blackhawk, my bad.
great lighting! your rendering skills are phenominal
and to you killing.people ... do a hand, so i can credit your wicked skills too :D
March 19th, 2004, 07:01 PM
man everyone is getting so much better.
especially you jook. I think you have found your face more...love your latest few!
BH- awesome as usual
Killing- you are my hero paintiner haha
buddhist keep going man, i see improvement
evil - so smooth! looks like a photo
ladylioness- nice, come a far way I see!
mcm - awesome dude :)
jmac- your the man. you finish that renasiance type one?
SP- it once again got smaller and smaller as I found out my face. I refined and refined, it does look like me, probably the closest than any other sp I have done..
I will force myself to go much larger next time. The head is 6.5 inches in height. I dont know if anyone else has the problem of not being able to go larger than what you see, but I will try it next time.
Its pretty close though, we will see. I may work on it a bit more, but I want to go much larger next time.
Any suggestions on making your face larger from sight to paper? I might be having some troubles!
March 20th, 2004, 02:23 AM
It has been a while, so here is a painting from my senior thesis at the Ringling School of Art and Design, "The Seven Deadly Sins: Figurative Expression".
48" x 36"
Oil on wood
The rest of my thesis is on my website:
March 20th, 2004, 02:39 AM
That's a nice sp Adam, love the color.
Blackhawk, what brushes did you use for that hand pic?
Here's my latest...click for bigger size.
I shouldn't of but the background like that, oh well...
March 20th, 2004, 05:54 AM
spent more time on this one... happy with the results...
evilliar... your sp's are totally sweet man... I am jelouse... there a reason for cropping parts of your face out? just for composition? just curious...
Adam Carnes... jesus man.. that is so kickass. I looked throug your website and I gotta say that it is really inspirational.. your style is very refreshing and unique. good job man..
endregan... thanks man.. I am finally starting to "click: I guess you can say. I guess this practice thing is real, eh? they dont lie about it... That one is really nice, though it is tough to see with the glare. your hair reminds me of the 70's, at least in these portraits recently. you dont realize how kickass that is..
MindCandyMan... your welcom man.. another really good one. It would be fun to see you be more adventuris with the colors on one of these... experiment and have fun dude...
bhuddistmonk... good to see you are active.. I would REALLY like to see one where you spend like 2-5 hours on it.. come on, put more into one...
poopdecker... that one is looking solid...
March 20th, 2004, 06:56 AM
Wazzo - lol, it's alright. It was a moment of inspiration for me nonetheless. Nice work.
Evillair - Just the standard captured bristle. Beautiful SP's BTW. I love your first one, the shadowing is dynamic.
Jook - Good job on your's. Again, be mindful of the nose form, it's still turning up flat or the form isn't reading well. For me, the nose is one of the most important parts. Maybe it's just because to me it feels like the most difficult piece of the face to render aside from the eyes.
MCM - Good to see you again my friend. You are definitely improving. How is the education going at Pantera studios?
J.Mac - That last one of yours had a much better feeling of mass to it. It didn't feel grossly out of proportion like your others.
Killing - Thanks man. You have some great SP's coming out of that brain and hand of yours. I'm jealous a bit of your abilities, you almost have a surreal feeling to yours that I try to capture. As for the lines in the last SP, I don't really know how to explain it. Take your own meaning into it.
Velo - Great studies. As for the 3D nose. It's just my focus, I enjoy drawing the nose, I'm fascinated by noses for some reason, and I love drawing/painting them. They're expressive to me as much as the eyes.
Nova - Thank you. Nice linework in this last one.
Kanimator - Great work in your SP's. Dating doesn't suck ass :D I thoroughly enjoy it, just have to take a different approach to it. I look at it as just a fun opportunity to clash and mingle with another personality :D.
Great work everyone regardless. I love seeing all these new faces, it's a pleasure for me.
I wish I could comment more but it's getting late and I cheated on these comments. I didn't really provide anything meaningful for the recipient's to chew on. I'll try to do better next time.
March 20th, 2004, 07:12 AM
Blackhawk.. I see what you mean. I just kinda dont really know how to tackle the problem.. should I fudge the values a bit from what I see in the mirror to bring the nose out more? in the initial sketch the nose seems to pop out more, it just kinda flattens out when I add color... suggestions?
now that I look at it, the perspective is a bit off on the nose as well... next time dammit.. next time...
March 20th, 2004, 12:10 PM
I really enjoy seeing your works, this is a great forum, so I decided to participate as well.
This is my first post in here, and my first self portrait...
hope I pick the right place to post it :D
I did this looking at the mirror, and in PS7 with a tablet...
took 4 hours, until now. Any C&C are very apreciated, my skills are very limited, so any help would be good!
March 20th, 2004, 03:49 PM
Blackhawk: I try to think of it that way. I have a great time with different people. They don't seem to have as great a time as I do, though. It's just when I constantly get rejected, and constantly get the "friends..." speach that I get frusterated... :mad: Oh well, at least I have art, my one true love. :rolleyes:
March 21st, 2004, 12:57 AM
just for you jook....spent some time on this one, and i like it.
March 21st, 2004, 01:13 AM
here's my latest.
It's cool to see everyone improving. :chug:
March 21st, 2004, 01:41 AM
nice skin tones evil, id just liek to see some more depth in the middle of the eye...
March 21st, 2004, 03:27 AM
another strange day.. oh well...
I was really trying to keep things loose here, kinda trying to learn from those dudes like Chris J Anderson or Sparth that kinda make details by blocking in colors and shapes..
evillair... another solid one..
bhuddistmonk.. way to go man.. I think it is your best yet.. try adding some more contrast in there on your next...
vgreco... nice details. you look like a buff mofo. I think it would look a lot more solid if you refined the ears. I see a lot of people (including me) who jus dont put the effort into the ears like they do the rest of the face. the ears get kinda thrown on last minute a lot.. it is sad.. I have been trying to work on that.
Bl;ackhawk... you seem to have a sub-conscious knack for composition.. do you put a lot of thought into your backgrounds? seem like you just make them on the fly with out much thought, just letting the feeling make it right... tough to explain...
March 21st, 2004, 12:04 PM
hey everyone, this mornings'
i like that one jook, maybe some more shadow between those textures?
March 21st, 2004, 03:17 PM
March 21st, 2004, 04:37 PM
had time for another today
March 21st, 2004, 06:37 PM
March 21st, 2004, 06:55 PM
I had to draw! it's been TOO long.
BH - i'm so sorry i will not meet you at Amsterdam. I'll ask Andrew to take a picture of you there :chug:
Android - brother - it's not long now... :crazy:
March 21st, 2004, 07:52 PM
That's awesome Oblio
March 21st, 2004, 09:14 PM
hi thats me, what a goof.
oblio, great sp, i love what you did with the little red dot. only crit is that the right eye socket is too grey...just a little darker to show that depth wouda done it.
BH, beautiful as ever, i gotta try somma those grey tone paintings. so minimalist, so appealiing.
buddhistmonk, your sp's need some variety...i think you need to try a new brush out :| ...or try blocking in colors...workin in layers....dark to light or reverse.....given that, i still think you did a pretty good job on your 2nd last one...the lighting/highlights where working out nicely.
evillair, now thats depth! :D wicked.
ps....anyone notice my images taking a long time to d/l? i think my server is having probs....someone say something if they are.
March 22nd, 2004, 04:24 AM
wazzo... tha one is cool.. your style is refreshing and slick.. I like the color choice in that one...
oblio... nice man.. that red dot is so impactive for such a small object.. nice work..
Blackhawk... that one is my fav B and W one from you so far.. looking so good...
bhuddistmonk... I think your brushes may be holding you back.. try something else like mabey the airbrush or something.. are you using painter? Maybe try some simple black and white studies? I did nothing but black and white for a good month or 2 a while back.. you wouldnt understand how much that helped me out with figuring out how value works.. not saying I am good at it yet, just saying it helped a lot.. anyways, you are improving, it is showing, just throwing ideas out..
evillair... thumbs up.. I am glad to see you starting to post these regularly...
March 22nd, 2004, 09:06 AM
hey jook, school starts today, ill think of somthing new to try tonight
nice portrait btw, watch out for the eyes
March 22nd, 2004, 10:15 AM
March 22nd, 2004, 03:52 PM
this is kinda a cheat coz it was from a session in OC...but its still a spod so no its not ok! hehe
poopdecker, great shading, real contrast goin there
jook, good proportions, minimse your pallete maybe?
whassup with everyone? where's all the spods? i was looking at february's thread (of which i didnt really participate) there was some amazing stuff last month....i noticed serverain and asbestoshazards little competition fizzled out....cmon back you guys!
March 22nd, 2004, 04:41 PM
do you all use mirrors for these?
March 22nd, 2004, 08:18 PM
Done actual size... from memory... at work...
March 22nd, 2004, 08:35 PM
*CA report card- Niall must try harder...*
been slacking off but have been trying to draw more random things... excuses...
ps. is open canvas free? and how do you arrange to do an online session with someone? i can't log in to the CA chat though, it wont accept my name..
March 22nd, 2004, 10:37 PM
nice colors ni*
very very very frustrated! not like airbrush! want use same brush as always! *slaps self* QUIT UR BITCHIN.
.....id give a nut for a scanner.......
March 23rd, 2004, 12:46 AM
anyways, tonights is black and white due to time and a lack of it..
feels good to work in B and W actually.... I think I will do more...
bhuddistmonk... not bad.. keep at it, takes a lot of practice to get a hold of the different tools in painter, I know this first hand..
Ni*... nice to see your face again.. good handle of the colors on that one...
Kanimator.. I really like the colors on that one.. very good for coming from your memory. it is hard to tell which ones are from memory and which ones are from a mirror...
fae... I use a mirror for ALL of mine... I used to do it from photos, like 2 years ago and stuff.. I tried one from a mirror and it turned out really shitty. I became determined to learn to do good ones from a mirror.. I will reach that point eventually I think.. hope...
wazzo... thumbs up man... like it...
poopdecker... that yellow one with the circles is really neat.. like it...
March 23rd, 2004, 03:28 AM
first sp on my comp... didn't do into a lot of detail cus im tired and about to go to bed.
March 23rd, 2004, 05:17 AM
oblio: wow i love your piece
jook: the eyes seem slightly off, but i really like that B&W one - hmm... i've done SPs in traditional media (man i hate doing SPs), but i guess they always turned out looking a certain way since i tried not to have to move my face - hehe...
Ni: from what i know, OC 1.1 is free (i MAY be wrong)- as for setting up sessions, one person must host and the other(s) join up as "clients" - so you go to network > show network windows (or something like that - it's at the top), then the host will fill in the settings and then go to "host" and fill in a username (usually no one messes w/ the password) - then the clients will put the host's IP into the IP place in the client tab, put in a username. After the host clicks "standby" and is connected, the users can connect.
ok... here's a quick one i did a bit back from a photo...
not too happy w/ it, but not too not happy w/ it... --- it resembles me fairly well i guess... =\
March 23rd, 2004, 11:13 AM
March 23rd, 2004, 11:17 AM
So i got my acceptance letter from art center the other day and that was really awesome but then my gf of 4.5 years tells me that if i go to school out there she wont stay with me wow this is shitty so need less to say i have been put in a position that is just not where i want to be....:(
first one is todays second yesterdays
jens - good sp your getting a good perspective on your face things are looking good :D i actually really like this last one alot my fav so far!
fae - neato!
|NTeRN - not shabby i htink you could use mor contrast on the next one.
jook - you structure is becoming better it is really nice to see you progressing so much!
bhuddistmonk - i think you should do anither longer more sustained sp again the last one looked really good!
Ni* - your colours are interesting i think you should try to tie everything together and do a more finished sp to test your self. as well i should do that to...
Kanimator - nice work i like it!
wazzo - the goggles are neat. haha that is great your style is cool
pd - did you use all those arches and and angles to see connections?
March 23rd, 2004, 12:35 PM
Easy, the GF has to go. Your too young to worry about a long term relationship. Focus on your art now, focus on girls and relationships later. That one is very easy to figure out. I know it may not seem like it, but as they say, there are a million fish in the sea. Cast this one back and move on.
It's harsh to say, and I'm sure you love her, but you have your entire life, especially your middle, late 20's to worry about this stuff more seriously.
My current GF understands that my artistic pursuits may tear us apart soon, she knew that from the start and is accepting of it, which is why I'm with her. I understand it, she understands, our later life goals are just too different right now to mix. But we definitely enjoy eachothers company while we can.
March 23rd, 2004, 12:51 PM
J.Mac.. firstly.. thanks for the compliment..
I completely understand how you feel. I am in a very similar situation with my GF of 3 years. It will be sad, but I am going to graduate from the Art Institute of Phoenix soon, she is graduating from ASU. She is going to get her PHd somewhere and i know I will probably have to go and get a job somewhere else... Blackhawks words sound so logical. It should be that easy, but It just isnt. No one can tell you which path is right or wrong, we havent felt what you felt or experienced what you have. I personally am eventually going to leave my current GF to persue my career, no matter how much it hurts. We both understand this.
I wish you the best of luck my freind..
March 23rd, 2004, 01:11 PM
Jook and Blackhawk thank you for your words i really apprecaite them. BH your words are frank and truthful, i know what i have to do to become who i want. Thanks guys :D art is my true love that is the bottom line.
BH/Jook i used to live Tuscan AZ i am not sure why i never brought it up before... lol do you live there year round. summers are killer. i remember i actually cooked an egg on my moms car... lol she didn't ejoy that too much :D any ways back to art.
Thanks again you two.
March 23rd, 2004, 02:45 PM
Yeah, dating sucks that's why I have a wife. :)
March 23rd, 2004, 03:39 PM
yeh dating must suck...
that's why you just stay single forever... forn ow at least. heh.
haven't dated/had a b/f my whole life...
i'm sorry that that's happening though - i mean... if she was REALLY the one... she would put up w/ the long distance relationship, etc... basically... maybe it's not the truest love you'll experience one day. that's pretty harsh, IMHO, to say "WHAT? if you go there we're breaking up" - i mean... maybe it's just that you both have more important things etc...
if it helps, i bet one day you'll find someone who strongly supports you in your artistic pursuit and your interests won't pull you away from her etc... so it'll all work great.
March 23rd, 2004, 09:03 PM
March 23rd, 2004, 10:47 PM
hehe, really amazing to look at everybody´s work...
I loved the lighting in Blackhawk´s work... really nice! :D
and Oblio´s brush work is also very impressive!
Jook: thanks for your comment man! I will try to fix the ears and post here again...
March 24th, 2004, 03:28 AM
I know, I know, where's today's SP??:rolleyes: I'll do a new one soon, I swear...
March 24th, 2004, 05:04 AM
cool Kanimator.. not bad.. I wonder how many I have.. I'll come back and edit this when I go back and count.
*edit* counted em all.. I have done 79 of em.. these links are from self portraits that I thought were good when i did them about 7-9 months ago... just in case you were interested.. when I went back and counted these, I was embarrassed at myself. haha..
a quick one tonight.. lots going on with school finals.. when I get more time, I will do more color ones...
Blackhawk... damn I wanna see that one finished... ohe well, looks nice...
J.Mac... those one are getting noticibly better... nice stuff...
poopdecker... I like the textures in that one...
Jens... really good one man... It is great...
fae... that one has beautiful colors in it.. I cant seem to get the eyes perfect... ever.. I am working on it...
|NTeRN... That is a pretty nice one.. watch out for having one eye a bit higher than the other... would look good finishe I imagine...
March 24th, 2004, 05:11 AM
i will post comments later, i promise!
did this one last night during a render. very quick ~15 minutes. my focus was trying to get my tulips to look accurate
March 24th, 2004, 11:23 AM
Your words have rejuvinated my spirit and also this book i am reading is really eye opening i recommend this book to anyone who really wants to become a better artist; The Practice and Science of Drawing by Harold Speed :D
imessed up the lips the are off, not sure what i did wrong :confused:
nova - atleast you got one done :D
jook - thanks man i appreciate it 79 not bad at all i am 96 as of today since the begining. this is somehting that i haven't really noticed before but you seem to twist your nose and your eyes in opposite directions slightly. you have a good handle on the shape of your head whichs is good! rock on!
Kanimator - nice i like that i did that a couple of times to see what i have done. i love the 5th one ihtink you should repost it so i can see the larger version, or atleast just make a link :D
BH - it has a really atmospheric feeling to it love that one it actually inspires me to draw :D
fae - hmm yeah things will work themselves out :)
March 24th, 2004, 11:46 AM
March 24th, 2004, 12:04 PM
Nice one blackhawk...so you gonna come and study at Pantura Studios with me...we will have an opening soon ;)
March 24th, 2004, 12:40 PM
Seriously MCM? I'd definitely come down and study with you man. Just let me know. :D
March 24th, 2004, 12:59 PM
ahh not too great - under an hour - since i woke up a bit after 11 and did whatever and it's 11:57 now.
first time doing a digital SP w/ a mirror... woo... fae's turning over a new leaf hehe.
Jook: wow - big diff. between your old ones and the new ones - congrats =)
BlackHawk: man... everyone loves yours - they're incredible!
March 24th, 2004, 05:48 PM
Posted the first (yesterday's) in the finished section (and as my avatar).
pencil sketch, ink wash, ink, then erase sketch, on watercolor paper.
oh, MCM, was looking at your threads and that website, was thinking about appying there in a year or 2 if I don't find a better place to study, looks great.
March 24th, 2004, 06:13 PM
well... at least i enjoyed the process....
no time for comments right now, sorry
March 25th, 2004, 03:58 AM
I am tired, cranky, and slightly depressed today, but the forecast looks good for tomorrow... :rolleyes:
You ever wonder about the people that you meet that you really like, but they don't seem to care about you. They are out there living their lives, perfectly happy to be without you. And you're stuck in your little hole, in your small circle. Funny how you always want what you don't and can't have.
March 25th, 2004, 05:45 AM
for thisi one, I had created a very nice one, I think it was nicer than this. I am talking my best, hands down. Right as I was signing it at the bottom Painter just vanished from my screen with no warning or error window or anything.. needless to say, I lost the image.. After some cussing and going to the movies, I came back home and whipped this out.. shit I was mad..
Kanimator... I got the solution.. when in front of a girl, go up to a guy and punch him in the face like ten times.. chicks like a badass like that...
If you ride a big motorcycle, that helps too...
Ni... that one is cool.. your style is unmistakable...
jetpack42... awesome play on lighting.. looks sweet...
fae... thanks... :D ... your pic isnt showing up for me right now.. wierd
poopdecker... I like the different techniques you are using on these... I think you may want to pay closer attention to overall proportions.. the head shape. I think all of your features are drawn a bit small.. nice rendering though...
J.Mac.. you are absolutely right about the nose.. I didnt even notice it either.. I think I fixed it this time... I hope.. I just had a hard time drawing in the nostril further away from the viewer.. that looks good.. again... I dont know what is wrong with the lips.. I am trying to figure it out.. you check the distance betweent the nose and mouth..?
neat. you are all artsy and stuff.. we aint taking kindly to yer type roun these parts... ;) :D I only kid.. looking good..
March 25th, 2004, 05:58 AM
Comments tomorrow morning. Had hockey this evening and the fatique and sleep are finally hitting me.
March 25th, 2004, 09:24 AM
jook: awww man that sux --- that's when you realize soon enough that you'll have to get into the habit of constant saves --- i'm at a point where sometimes i save every few strokes --- sad i know... but after having so many issues like that, you somehow learn - and then forget, and relearn etc etc... m'sorry man.
yeh not showing up for me either --- that server for that blasted free webspace deal isn't really good obviously - it goes down every here and there for a while --- blasted... - o well... not much to see... really.
March 25th, 2004, 10:34 AM
Jook - Hey there is a way around that my man...you possibly could still save it. Read up on scripts in painter and you might still have a script from the other night that you can play back and get your image back!
March 25th, 2004, 11:40 AM
March 25th, 2004, 12:53 PM
I´m overloaded with stuff that I have to do :cry: but I´m still going to do at least one sp/week. Even if I have to sacrifice some of my sleep like I had to do with this one last night. I called it finished when I dozed off and almost dropped my head in the paint.
J.Mac: Sorry to hear that lifes just a lots of difficult decisions be true to yourself and things usally works out to the best even if doesn´t feel that way now and for some time.
Jook: talk about improvement :D and imo you have improved compared to when I started to post too and that not that long ago. Yeah my computer use to crash when I write comments I really hate that since I write really slow You could try some traditional media like me, but every misstake one do is really hard to erase..ok depending technique used more or less hard.
endregan: It´s harder to draw bigger mainly because you have to add one line of thinking. try making one eye the size you want it then you have to compare your real eyes width with e.g the length of your nose let say it´s two and a quarter "eye-widhts", then you have to look at the eye you drew and make the nose two and a quarter long compared to that eye, thus adding one line of thinking and another feature to take measurement from. The other problem is that ones hand get used to one size really quick. Anyway when you get better at estimate the lenghts it going to be easier. Hope it helped, but I guess you already knew this anyway better to write this than to write practise three times.
Ni*: Man I really like your latest sp, one comment though if you don´t want to have that "meditation-floating-look" you should work a little with the shadows ground yourself to the floor, but I like it as it is.
Fae: that sp got a real Gaugin-feeling to it :) I draw from mirror it doesn´t get close as good as if I draw from photo but I get to use my so-called brain a lot more
Wazzo: I try to work hard and practise, but stuff gets in the way and if I don´t do that I wont have anything at all in the end. (answer to your first comment to almost all of us some time ago, better mention that if you forgot ;) )
BH: Seems like the only thing I ever going to write to you is good sp:s
evilair: you got some good ones
MCM: nice seeing you at the sp-forum.
Kanimator: Hm *envy* it feels like you bragging when you say that it´s from memory and not from mirror but your just stating the facts grr not feeling any envy at all....not :D
Poopdecker/Bhuddistmonk: keep going.
March 25th, 2004, 02:49 PM
just got open canvas and watched some of the files on the OC thread here, it was a revelation.... I thought i was doing it wrong, i was blocking in and the pushing shapes around to refine the form. but i saw that alot of really good people do that too. it made my night :-)
also made me want to do a quicky in photoshop for old times sake, my colour blending is poor i know. fun though
I've been practicing blocking in the negative shapes and trying to use as large a brush as possible and i think it is helping..
March 25th, 2004, 03:13 PM
you know what is annoying when you type alot of stuff and give some good crits to people and the your comp crashes :mad:
busy day this is a portrait that i did last night, i will do a sp later tonight when i get a chance i just wanted topost it cause this the second portrait that i have done of someone else.
jook hope you don't mind but htis what i think might be the issue "imo"
March 25th, 2004, 03:35 PM
holy shit!!! Some dude told me how I can get it back. I GOT IT BACK!!! OH MY GOD!!! Thanks Mindcandyman, I would have never even thought of that... thanks again.. it had to do with some scripting in painter.. I was able to get it back!! haha.. now that I totally built this one up to be such a masterpiece, it probably wasnt as good as I built it up, I didnt think anyone would actually see it. I am still proud of it though...
It is crazy how much it looks like my other one. I was trying to replicate this one that I thought I lost with the same lighting and angle and colors and stuff from memory...
J.Mac. Thanks. I dont mind at all.. I am kinda having a tough time understanding what is going on with the tip of the nose... Did you shift the tip to the left a bit? Make it a bit less rounded? I see the fix of the mouth perspective though, I will keep that in mind.. thanks again..
Ni.. that one has some really nice lighting.. good color and value choices...
Mindflaw... Thanks man.. I would love to do a few traditional ones. I am kinda lacking in traditional usage. I rely on my trusty wacom (well, generic Aiptek) too much. I guess Digital is just quicker. Like you said, fixing mistakes with paint is not so easy, digital you can undo any move. That is a nice portrait. The colors and brush strokes almost remind me of Van Gough. I am not sure I like the way you outlined the lips like that.. just me I guess..
Poopdecker.. nice man.. I may even say that is your best yet. keep at it..
MindCandyMan... Oh thanks you so damn much! Scripting! YES!
Blackhawk... good one.. again.. I like the eyes in this one...
March 25th, 2004, 04:45 PM
jook - yes i did shift it over more, if you are having trouble seeing the placement and plnes of the nose you shoudl try to do some studies of them. you don't need to do a ton just acouple to help you realize things that you are not seeing yet. alos you know how i put that green stripe down you face it is a good idea to lightly do that in the begining if you need help seeing where somehtings need to go. i hsould of actually done that lol i am a meathead sometimes....
this new one that you got back looks good the perspective on this one is better "imo" one thing you should think about and not over use is those highlight/hot spots they can be misleading and make you loose or become confused about the forms you are looking at. also if you need help figureing out what you should do with features some times i try to break them down to simple shapes you know like this, nostrils are more oval and the nose is more square on top and more round on the bottom. well that is what i do anyways, and remember everyone is different so you have to observe the differences don't generalize or you will lose the essence of the figure.
just some thoughts for you hope they make sense and aren't confusing...
March 25th, 2004, 08:27 PM
decided to give this one another few minutes before bed, I'm glad i managed to at least try a more inventive one and i'm keen to know how it looks through other eyes..
i owe some comments too;
jook- those last few are another huge improvement in realism, i know you enjoy the more expressive and experimental ones but tat can sometimes mean you drift from the forms a little. i preferred the one you did to replace the crashed one, the lighting is cool, looks like there is a light behind you, good work.
JMac- that portrait of 'someone else' is great, i find i have stagnant periods if i dont shift the mirror around or draw other things for a while, you should draw more other people and then come back to a new SP.
Mindflaw- really vivid colours, makes me want to get some paints ;-) can i suggest maybe trying a bigger brush? its something i'm trying to do and i think it is helping me to avoid a slightly blurry look. oh and thanks for the advice on my SP, i added shadow to ground myself
Poopdecker- your rendering skills and patience are enviable, but keep in mind the structure of the face, maybe try using flat planes before rounding and shading so carefully?
Kanimator- i find i can get lost in painting or drawing if i'm down and your low turned out a good SP, do you use photoshop? if so, how do you prevent the fuzzyness that i seem to sink into?
ok i have to go to bed now else i'll start drawing again...
ps- jook, i liked your statement about impressing girls, it made me laugh, though sometimes it seems the ladies love a dickhead. you women are a confusing bunch (but oh so pretty :-p )
March 25th, 2004, 08:35 PM
Ni*: My secret: I am a slave to the line!! I always do tight linework first, then color/tone. I actually am quite jealous of you, especially since I do concept art at work sometimes. I love the looseness of your SPs and how you are able to simplify the shapes and tones. You're last full body one is fantastic!
March 25th, 2004, 11:50 PM
jook : i like your replacement one better too hehe.
Ni : neat pic - nice how it's a full body --- you used mirror for this one??
second digital selfportrait using a mirror.
glad to take part of this stuff - good for learning and practice... got really fed up at first since it was not resembling me at all --- now it's pretty accurate, though some stuff is still off... about an hour and a half.
March 26th, 2004, 02:02 AM
March 26th, 2004, 04:03 AM
Best Friend, Worst Enemy
Wanted to do something with a bit more meaning, and try to vent some of this frustration and mild depression I've been dealing with. Ain't being an artist fun???:rolleyes:
March 26th, 2004, 05:53 PM
March 26th, 2004, 08:09 PM
hey everyone, been a couple of days since i last posted, been sick and doing trad media sps with no scanner. oh well.
this is part of my moms birthday present, along with a subscription to the sunday new york times....
about an hour...
nice one blackhawk, i like the purple face, but lets have some comments...
kanimator- yours are really nice, i love the line quality
adam c- i really really like the color and stylized face in that
fae - i liek that, nice brush strokes
ni* - your color is getting better all the time, keep it up!
jook - i like the maroon in that
jmac - i really like how you use the wide pencil strokes
mindflaw - keep practicing
March 27th, 2004, 02:48 AM
I should really do some comments. Maybe tommorrow.
March 27th, 2004, 02:51 AM
tonight i was the goddess of the night sky, checking on the glimmers of the rain falling on the city. it was fun.
more or less since the 23rd..
jmac - the lips look good to me
poopdecker - run with that lighting
fae - gorgeous. try this: set up some dramatic lighting. start with a sketch, then add a dark wash on it [different layer] then cut out the brightest spots you see. no color, just value.
jetpack - i love the gesture of the whole portrait
ni* - i like it. play with the cast shadows though, to ground you to the floor. marsp13.JPG is awesome and natural
kanimator - the last one looks like a comic panel. very nice
blackhawk - that's amazing. where did those colors come from?
March 27th, 2004, 04:41 AM
tonight was awful. I must have sketched out 10 different times, and finally got this one. lousy, but...well..lousy. I didn't use any reference for the light on this one (i did on previous 2), tried to make it up. Will have a Wacom on Monday, so I'm going to start learning that. I've been told though, if you can't work in black and white, you can't work in color....
sketch, ink, in wash, color pencil, erase sketch.
and a small real picture i had saved on the computer for your own reference...
nova- that is sweet. that sort of style left alot of possibilites with composition you could have taken advantage of.
jook- that's pretty nice, the skin tones might be a little on the red side, but they are pretty convincing.
Blackhawk- keep 'em coming, inspirational man
Kanimator- interesting concepts, i always forget SP's can be more then a picture of my face...
Adam Carnes- good colors, whats it done with?
March 27th, 2004, 07:31 AM
i hope you don't mind the critique :) i couldn't help it. i like your sp before this one, you're approaching something really good, i want to give you a few ideas [in case you haven't already heard them]
your brushstrokes should also go in the direction of the planes. for example, in your recent sp, you're hatching horizontally across your nose, when the bridge goes down and diagonally. the strokes should go down and diagonally. same with the structure of the curve that starts at the bridge of your nose, around the mouth, that ends at the chin.
check it out:
March 27th, 2004, 12:57 PM
Oh ma gawd I love them all!
My favs so far: Ni, Blackhawk, wazzo, Lumei, Vello, davi, adam carnes, kanimator... these are all hangin-on-my-wall material! I wish I could bust amazing stuff out at the speed u guys do!
Heres mine... did this in feb, 10x13, graphite on bristol board, 3 hrs (bad pic):
March 27th, 2004, 01:46 PM
no pic today, just home and i'm too hungry, i just want to make a few comments before i eat...
firstly, thank you for the compliments, it is great to know that others enjoy something you have enjoyed creating, it has made my week :-D
kanimator- i'm glad you appreciate my style (mess) i wish i could tighten up line work or even finish paintings a little more, if we could only merge styles :-p I really like your last few pieces, they do convey the feelings behind them. as for being down, i get like that too, i think everyone does but some people fluctuate more, only thing i can say is, try to enjoy being down as much as you enjoy being happy, don't fight it, indulge. oh, and go to a friends for dinner or just a chat and a joke or 2. btw, when i was younger i made a few frustrated sketches when i was really down but i didnt have any real drawing skill to work them properly but you are making me want to look them out and try to paint them, similar concepts to yours actually.
noodleboy- very nice, try working in darker shadows on the face to really make it look like it is under the hood, that could be really atmospheric.
Jetpack42- ... listen to nova, it is good advice ;-)
nova- that last one is lovely, i keep looking for the top of your head though :-p
bhuddistmonk- you seem to have the features in the right place, take a big brush and block in shades with 3 grey tones, i think that would really birng your sps forward.
blackhawk- great, as ever. maybe some warmer more saturated colours on the cheeks would round the face a bit?
Adam carnes- that one is creapy for some reason, nice though
Fae- nice one, only thing i can suggest is big brush, use a bigger one and it helps prevent the sketchy lines which can break up the planes. oh and i dint use a mirror for the full body one, i made it up, i wanted to try something different.- looking at it now i notice the legs seem too big...
as ever, remember i can only give oppinions based on what i have tried, i know no better than anyone and i can only hope these notes help in some way
March 27th, 2004, 06:47 PM
Haunted by the Blind
March 27th, 2004, 09:09 PM
portraits are looking good from everyone this month
color study sketch in oil... 12x12in...40 min.
March 27th, 2004, 09:33 PM
flex-the neck looks a tad small for the head, more on the left side than the right. It's a small issue, and I usually don't nitpick, but I think could make it alot stronger. Also really nice colors on the shadow side ear.
March 27th, 2004, 10:56 PM
Here's a quick sketch, messed up a bunch of places, oh well. Will do better next time.
March 27th, 2004, 10:58 PM
jetpack42- oil paint
March 27th, 2004, 11:17 PM
color study + sp = unfinished but (i think) cool result
evil- simple, very cool
flex - i really like the colors in that, good job
kanimator - i like
noodle - cool, i like the hood and good preportions
March 28th, 2004, 09:09 AM
BH- if you post a BW ever again - i'll kill you! :bash:
all of you - YOU ROCK!!!
March 28th, 2004, 11:48 AM
Hey. I will leave some comments tomorrow. I can`t concentrate fully now...need sleep.
The painting reflects my feelings, I think, but I don`t know how. I was just going for a normal SP, but failed to draw the nose several times. Then I thought: Hey! Tentackles are cool!!
(Pencil scetch can be found in my Middle Class thread, if your interrested.)
March 28th, 2004, 02:42 PM
Inspired by an Android's SP.
I tweaked the image again, some problems I couldn't let go.
March 28th, 2004, 04:50 PM
open canvas is weird, i love the watercolour brush though, does anyone know how to replicate that in photoshop or painter? and does anyone know how to save out the progress (.wpe) file from OC?
here is the result of some experimentation in open canvas, the colours are shit, i know...
March 28th, 2004, 04:53 PM
In Open Canvas just go to File->Export event file.
Then Import Event to test it out.
March 28th, 2004, 05:05 PM
heh, just did that before you posted, but thanks anyway. it's really odd to watch yourself work.... hee hee its actually really funny, if anyone is bored enough to want to see this, let me know, but it mainly shows my ignorance of the software, and it is pretty big...
March 28th, 2004, 05:33 PM
Ni*: this brush in PS7 is pretty similar to the OpenCanvas watercolor.
The fade in and fade out, combined with the pressure sensitivity makes it pretty smooth. I'm pretty sure you could recreate it in earlier PS versions, too.
March 29th, 2004, 04:59 AM
done with acrylic paint on masking tape at 3 am sunday. about 10 minutes
been super busy, so i've only been doing sketches in my book, just nothing too worth posting.
evillair- that last shit is spooky and real powerful. keep up the good work full of feeling
flex-real nice facial structure. curious how you did the ears and lips th eonly warm tones.
kanimator- glad to see you pumping these out, and still making them finished and tight.
noodle boy- i like your styles and self portrails. nice
March 29th, 2004, 05:24 AM
Mirror Doesn't Lie
Ended up looking too much like a characature, was trying to convey how I feel about the way I look on bad days.
March 29th, 2004, 08:39 AM
March 29th, 2004, 01:54 PM
Ni*: I like your two last self portraits. They are full of life and personality.
Adam Carnes: Exellent colours and lightning. Post more!
Kanimator I like your lines alot. Strong and accurate.
nova: The cartoonish portrait is very cool. The eyes bothers me a bit though.
flex mathews: Nice colours and lightning. Love the brushstrokes. I agree with jhibbs about the neck, though.
evillair: Your last one is...monumental...and dark. Witch one of Androids protraits was it?
evolve: Nice one. Almost phsychidelic.
Sorry, I didn`t finnish. Eyes are waaaay to far away from each other. Not satisfies at all..
March 29th, 2004, 06:46 PM
Sorry for no comments busy busy... not really happy with this one for some reason they eyes we giving a difficult time today...
Kanimator - your series rocks!
March 29th, 2004, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by n0fish
evillair: Your last one is...monumental...and dark. Witch one of Androids protraits was it?
Thanks alot. Androids SP is this one: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=168
Some kick ass SP's beeing shown, I can't wait to start a new month. :)
March 29th, 2004, 08:44 PM
nova, simply intriguing.
March 29th, 2004, 09:06 PM
kaminator: wonderful as always --- very cool style how you do yours
blackhawk: haha i'd love to see a smile, or some other expression - it'd be cool
noodleboy: really like yours --- nice composition
nova: thx for the suggestions - i'll see what i can do sometime.
bhuddhistmonk: thx =)
March 30th, 2004, 03:06 AM
I haven't posted one in awhile. I'm still goin, I've done about 560 self portraits so far. I haven't done a digital one in ages... so I did one tonight.
After I did that I tried to "glaze" it in photoshop. Looked weird... I can't figure out how to do that.
March 30th, 2004, 03:32 AM
so, look, i sucked it up, and used the mouse. i'll never have enough money for a tablet like some of you guys got. computer arts not really my thing. but here's my attemp. if it weren't 2:30am, i'd go pick up my pencil and do a better one. oh well.
March 30th, 2004, 05:08 AM
Today I got a tablet. To say I didn't know what the hell was going on would be an understatement...
Fae- most recent looks alot stronger. nice work
nova- you are right. I know it, but upon review, I am thinking about the shape of the shadows, not the shape of the form. Thanks for pointing it out, gotta work smarter, not harder. Your SP rocks too...i love the quick style like that...
Ni*- I think the colors work, at least for me, with the exception being the yellow on the chin. The rest seems to be fine.
flex matthews- that is super ill. The colors rock.
March 30th, 2004, 05:34 AM
Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead! 15 min in PS 7. I keep forgetting to draw on new layers...
oh yeah, and when we finally get a sketch session going, you better show, Nova and Kanimator.
March 30th, 2004, 07:58 AM
patton art: try adding a new layer on top of your black and white and making it a color blending mode.
March 30th, 2004, 10:30 AM
Yep heres one for me.
Best likeness of me i've done so far.
Was with a photo reference tho... is that cheating?
..Anyway im pretty pleased with it.
March 30th, 2004, 10:41 AM
Elmo Lester: I haven`t seen your previous sp`s, but this one turned out great.:)
Patton Art: Nice one. I miss a little more contrast. Also, your left eye is placed a little higher than the right, it seems.
to the rest of you: :chug:
hmm..mabye I`ll post something later today...
March 30th, 2004, 10:45 AM
Here's some of my blundering.
50 minutes in Paintshop Pro 5.5
I know my left eye is way off, so I'm gonna correct it later today. So there will be an update shortly.
C&C is, as always, very welcome!
updated the picture
March 30th, 2004, 12:02 PM
Ilost this one to some what i tried to save it but that worked only alittle. i wish i had more time to spend on these... some day...
dCepT - not bad! some of your structure seems to be a little loose but that comes with time. maybe if you put some cooler colours in the piece it would give thewarm coours more emphasis and such....
Elmo Lester - really nice paint! photo referencing isn't cheating "imo" if you trace the image and do a paint over than i consider that to only be practice for your self...
jetpack42 - most of us have no clue what we are doing most of the time too, when it comes to drawing... it is about discovery and so many other things...
evolve - you are hard core! with the mouse... that is good work!
Patton Art - that is really good! i wish youhad more contrast in it though. that would b ethe only thing ilike to see done to it :D
fae - not bad! :D
n0fish - i like your last one it has real appeal to it!
March 30th, 2004, 05:45 PM
well, i did this one today in 25 minutes, but i'm not done yet. truthfully, i started it cause of jmac's compliment. so thank you. i'll duke it out with the mouse for a while.
jmac- thanks. do you always look in the mirror? there's little changes made to your work, it's like you know exactly where to put the lines.
dcept- it looks like you made it out of wax. rad.
elmo-thats crazy good. the subtleness is what makes it so impressive.
killing people. less talk, more art, buddy
 here's it after another hour. i know, i barely did anything.
March 30th, 2004, 07:40 PM
Evolve i always use a mirror as matter of fact.
there's little changes made to your work, it's like you know exactly where to put the lines.
hmmm maybe that is a bad thing if i want to get better. one of my teachers told me that if you are comfortable with what you are doing and you seem to know what you are doing for the most part than you aren't learning. i think i need to make myself lost again!
March 30th, 2004, 09:18 PM
I´m away a couple of days and it just pours in great sp:s so I just have to do at least some comments. I myself will do a new one hopefully within the next three days.
Ni*: Thanks when it comes to painting I mostly focus on colour trying to learn how different colours works togheter still trying to keep it simple. And I´m kinda afraid of big brushes very irrational, but I´m going to fight that fear. I liked your changes to your sitting sp with the face and feet etc, and I´m glad you didn´t refine it to much then the feeling it has would have gone away imo.
Kanimator: your lately series of sp:s rocks man.
Oh yeah and a suggestion, I´ll keep it short even though I like to rant. In sport psychology and mental training, they promote Positive visualization e.g visualize a race by going trough the whole race and of course winning it. You could do same thing with your sp:s you know instead of focus on your problems focus on what you want to be and feel by doing a sp portray those feelings instead, you know to be a winner you got to think like a winner.
Jook: Thanks for the comments
Fae: really good sp imo it would enhance the sp greatly if you finished the top of the head (hair) to get whole width. Just cover the painting from above your eyebrows with your hand or something to see if you agree with me.
Nova: The sp you posted march 27 gives me a deja vu feeling, have you posted somehting with a similar style and composition before? Anyway like that sp
J.Mac: You have only made like two sp:s thats not three-quarter sp:s maybe you should do more of "front" sp:s instead you know to get out of your habit
To all you others sorry about not doing any comments but I have to go to sleep I hate summertime one loses one hour.
March 30th, 2004, 11:39 PM
GREAT work everyone, i see improvement everywhere.
Im quite proud of this one, it is by far my best yet. if its too big i am sorry. about 2 1/2 hours, done in my painting class. because im sitting in on a college Painting 1 class, everyone was blown away by the 15 y/o with a laptop in the corner. teacher was very happy with this, she is a photoshop guru, and she taught me a shitload i didnt know just tonight. i no longer want painter :)
umm, if i did this differently i would do it on a colored background to eliminate some of that white space........
EDIT: Heres a smaller version
March 31st, 2004, 05:10 AM
35 min, PS7. Even if its quick, I'll be posting daily from here on out.
buddistmonk- nice one man, what did you do to get the brush so soft?
JMac- I know man. Actually, my SP today was inspired by Mindflaw's comments on yours. I realized I always do a side-ish, 3/4ths view, and went for a straight on. All of your SP's do look very similar. You've got that skintone going nicely with the pencil, maybe add some harsher light, work on mood and expression. You draw yourself pretty well in casual light.
March 31st, 2004, 07:30 AM
i dont really like this one. i was fighting with the proportions and shading of the forms the whole time. i was also using a different brush that did not work well with my lighting setupi (basically using just the monitor light) before, the soft brush worked very well for this. here is my offering:
March 31st, 2004, 09:40 AM
jetpack, i used one of the splatter brushes that dont look useful.
March 31st, 2004, 12:34 PM
bhuddistmonk: that no one uses??? i use brushes from the regular hard type to the textured ones, to the splatter ones, to the butterfly, leaf, start, circle ones... etc... using photoshop... hehe :D
March 31st, 2004, 04:05 PM
Noone Sees Me
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