EOW 147 The Festival

[chaosrocks]

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EOW 147 The Festival

this can be the Fair, the Faire, any time, any planet, any venue. But I want to see entertainment, merchants, booths.....


DUE August 4th 2010
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[pipobimbo]

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Not a great fan of this idea, but I´m looking forward to see what´ll come out some of the creative minds around here.

[Vaejoun]

This topic is really wide open to anything.
Space, medieval, any culture, any time, any place, good, evil...

But it will be a lot of work for this one ^^

[thescala]

I like the idea, I can brush up on some much needed perspective.

[VishvaTKH]

Good topic to get some juice running! back to work! :)

[Rusty]

It's gonna be a sh*t load of work this round (crowds, merchants, booths, etc...) but i'll give it a good go :) Be interesting to see how everyone interprets this one.

[Beelow]

I'm down again.

[Zapp!]

I know it can be any time and place, so does that mean it can be a real festival? If so, I'd love to try and do a painting of the Edinburgh Fringe festival.

[Ian Barker]

I'm thinking about an arctic festival.. prolly will just be a few eskimos walking around:

[Absorber]

I love it :D I have to work this holiday week but I hope to have some night-time free for this one.

Thumbs asap :)

[android411]

I thought of an interior festival, though this one doesn´t make really sense imo, so I will propably rework this or do another one

[chaosrocks]

real festival are perfectly acceptable. edinburgh fringe? tell me more? sounds fun. I posed the topic because I just spent 2 glorious weeks at a couple of pagan festivals here in the midwest. bonfires and drumming and dancing till dawn. I kinda feel like painting them.

[JanJager]

Liffey
God idea with an Arctic festival perhaps have some cool ice constructions.
android411
I like the light on the crowd.

Trying to go for a festival on the ice.

[Ramza]

Really challenging topic, I like it!

Liffey - great idea, good way to make the focus pop from the white snow.

Here's a WIP for my pic. Was originally thinking of a South-East Asian fantasy town, but we'll see where it goes.

[Zapp!]

real festival are perfectly acceptable. edinburgh fringe? tell me more? sounds fun. I posed the topic because I just spent 2 glorious weeks at a couple of pagan festivals here in the midwest. bonfires and drumming and dancing till dawn. I kinda feel like painting them.

Cool. The Edinburgh Fringe is the biggest arts festival in the world, with thousands of shows, from lots of different countries, on through most of August. A lot of the shows are indoors, such as the theatrical or comedy ones, but there are also loads of outdoor acts and all sorts of street performers.
So I think it should be quite fun to paint as I love all the old buildings on the royal mile (www.google.co.uk/images?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&tbs=isch:1&&sa=X&ei=3qpOTKfWKZWG4QaDs5G-Aw&ved=0CCEQvwUoAQ&q=edinburgh+royal+mile&spell=1) (where most of the festival takes place), and there are so many different types of performers to choose from.

[no_name_brand]

a challenging topic, here is where I'm at. I thinking of a European solstice kind of festival. struggling to keep the perspective neat during the painting process so I got some work to do still.

edit: having issues with the attachments don't know why I'll try posting another time

[RichLyons]

Wooo easy on No Name Brand.... Jeeez hard act to follow.
So I'm thinking a south east asian type city square... with mobile dance party making its way down the street with giant speaker balls floating above... For ref I'll be looking at Techno Viking.. if you haven't seen techno viking tube it now.

Ramza - I'm lovin it, it reminds me of ashley woods meets brett whitley

[dragon4lunch]

no_name_brand: Excellent! Disney style background painting, Hunchback of Notre Dame-style! Quality stuff!
Riddle me this: What is with the huge amount of color patches at the top? Do you keep color picking from them during the painting process or do you you color pick from within the scene while painting? Isn't the amount of swatches you have there confusing?

RichLyons: Solid stuff, just like your current CHAR sketches! I can see you've been using some Polyonal Lasso Tool-action?! Great mock-up. Good start!

[Oceanic6]

Hi im new arround here so this is my first post on this forum, trying to make an Egyptian Festival arround 2 statues, like an entrance to the fest. Not so sure how to continue please! help :P

http://img96.imageshack.us/f/festivalx.jpg/

how can I resize the image to see it smaller?
http://yfrog.com/2ofestivalxj


Thanks!

[Absorber]

Finally I have some spare time to write comments. Sorry about the previous eow.

@ Oceanic6: You must resize the image in Photoshop. Then you can attach the image in your 'advanced message' or upload it elsewhere like you did but use the [img]-scripts to make it visible. not much people will press url's ;)

About your work: Your setting could become a great picture. I should give those banners less movement and mirror them so the left one waves a bit to the left. Good luck with it :)

@ RichLyons: Great to see your steps. Working with solid shapes will give you a great control to create depth simple by brightness. Good luck with the rest and all the humans ;)

@ No name brand: Great steps! A good color palette although it feels more frightening than warm. The architecture is very well done, feels a bit dutch combined with german am I right? I can't wait to see all the people and lightning coming along, good luck! :)

@ Ramza: Cool composition and perspective, I like the mood and the neutral colors.

@ JanJager: Good to have you back on this eow :) Your mood feels ok but I think the foreground is a bit to empty or dull. But that could come due the fuzzy shapes so I can't really tell what everything is yet. Good luck with the ice ;)

@ Android: Lightning feels good indeed. As you said, it's more a good looking picture than a picture with a meaning of a concept in it. Try to work on that

@ Liffey: I can't really tell what everything is yet but the setting could become awesome :) But you should think about the mechanics of all the machines, what if they froze at night?! ;)

>

Here are my thumbs; 1,2 and 3 are based on the concept 'the not-so-fun-fair' and number 4 is just crap. 'Not-so-fun' because of the ghetto all the people living in. I prefer #1 :)

Cheers!

[pipobimbo]

Seeing all these ideas and works (especialy Ramza's image), I finally got the beginning of an idea.

I could be some kind of carnival in a very dense and dark city.
I like the idea of a society that faces huge problems and uses a gigantic party to burn every tiny bit of it. No wonder that the last day of a carnival is called the ashes of the carnaval.

Oh, and by the way, this would only be my second illustration, and my first one with a kind of a command and a deadline, so be patient but feel free to give me your feedback.

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2214/pipobimbocafestival00wi.jpg

[android411]

great stuff everyone

here is a new one from me as I was not happy with the first one, in this one I´m trying to make a fantasy/medieval festival with a dragon flying show and so on, not sure if this is working though

[JanJager]

android411
Can bee cool with a lot of fantasy an medial stuff.
Absorber
Thanks. Nice thumbnails. I like 1 but 2 is also a favourite.
Oceanic6
Cool picture. To resize it I think you had to find resize or image size in your software.
RichLyons
Great.Looking forward to see the progress
no_name_brand
Nice. Very much festival. Only crits I can come up with i perhaps dampen the big buildings in the far background.
Ramza
Cool idea with an Asian fantasy town

[android411]

JanJager - looks really great. I like the colors and atmosphere most, maybe your focal point is a tad centered other than that it´s really cool

[thescala]

Here's what I'm working on, going for a Halloween type theme.

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm105/thescala/town.jpg

Jan Jager- Nice atmosphere created, I'm really diggin the bottom left hand corner, how its sorta blurry, but looks like it could work from the light/ mist in the air.

RichLyons- I like the way you started with the silhouettes, and the cartoonish art style.

[artfulshrapnel]

The beginnings of an idea kind of inspired by the COW, the spreading of a new year of flying crops. Of course, they need to be released on the downwind side of the city where they won't end up in anyone's house, or drop their heavy, pointed seeds onto anyone, so the farmers released them on the eastern side of the city. Later, as airship traffic picked up, lights were added to the plants so the ships could avoid the largest clusters as they left the city. Thus the start of the spring air planting festival began.

Today, lights are attached as decoration, since no ships are permitted to dock the night of the festival, and even children take part in the long parade that culminates at the eastern air docks.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_DZlbvVly4yU/TFI6vEtL-eI/AAAAAAAAAmc/6_uV9M8s900/s1600/dock-festival.jpg

Jan Jager - Really digging the color palette here and the sense of depth you've created with it. Definitely feels very centered, and like it could use something to unbalance it a bit, perhaps building up the landscape on the left some?

TheScala- Looking like a solid start. I like the saggy medieval feeling houses.

Android411- The architecture is looking great, and the dragon is turning into a good focal point. It really feels like it needs more people and chaos in it. Little silhouettes and lights along the ramparts, rooftops, crowding the street. Maybe some sort of dragon-parade? As is it looks almost more like a dragon attack on those unsuspecting townsfolk!

Pipobimbo- Great concept and good start. With the sparks/debris flying upwards, try and make it a less even distribution, and give a sense of directional motion to them. When things go up from a fire they tend to move with the swirls and twists of the rising thermals. Like This (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DLZbqK2QyQA/Sx0ZvpvdXeI/AAAAAAAABMk/vPNhcJZ-j5U/s640/blog+-+bonfire.jpg)

Absorber- #1 certainly does give a sense of scale and space that's impressive, but I like the crazy perspective and composition of #3. If you brought in a few more rickety towers in the background, made them feel jammed in, you could get a great claustrophobic ghetto feel going.

Richlyons- Cool compositions, I love the scale of the buildings in the background. You should try and find a way to bring them into the concept somehow, with something crazy happening on top of the buildings. (spotlights?)

No Name Brand- Wow... Very nice. Do you have some sort of cool building construction trick, or did you just paint those all in by hand? Super cool. Only suggestion I can make is to put some atmosphere in front of those buildings at the back of the square. Value wise they don't recede nearly as much as they do perspective-wise.

Ramza- Love the atmosphere and soft light everywhere. Can't wait to see where it goes once the party starts. :)

Liffey- Nice color palette and concept. Looking forward to seeing the more finished version.

[pipobimbo]

artfulshrapnel
Thanks for the comment.
Really nice idea. I would try to change the format though. Make it more 16/9 (opening on the right) could make more emphasis on the flying light. It seems to me the position of the city might be too central.

thescala
Same thing. I would do an horizontal mirror to let the house on the left "closing" the image, giving more strenght to the moon and the elements on the right side.
Nice architecture.

JanJager
Impresssive job.
As it´s been said, the composition may be a bit neutral. But it depends on what you´ll bring next in the frame, and how you bring it.
The colour are just great.

android411
Nice idea, with a lot of work to do about the light. But I think the difficulty will be to make it look crowdy.

Absorber
Second one looks more classical to me, but still, could be interesting.
Number one seems more original in the concept.


This is what I came up with, so far.

http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/2214/pipobimbocafestival00wi.jpg
I have to bring more light, more crazyness, more life. But I think it´s pretty much what I had in mind originaly. I just have to fill the towers (yes, these are towers...) with people and lights. Maybe put some more gigantic animals.
And find a way to draw these m*$#"r f#&*-»g flags.

Oh, and yeah, integrate your idea, artfulshrapnel.

[Zapp!]

Abandoned my plan to do the Edinburgh Fringe. So now I'm doing a big music festival which will have a big main stage in the background and maybe some other smaller stages or tents elsewhere(if I don't run out of time).

Will try and give out some crits tomorrow.

[thescala]

Updated:

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm105/thescala/town-1.jpg

Artful Shrapnel: Interesting composition, I like the floating bubble things, however, I do find the perspective of the BRIDGE to be a little off. It doesn't really reseed anywhere.

[JanJager]

thescala
Good I like the forms. Looking forward to see how will do the ground and if you going to put some people in there.
Zapp!
Good start.
pipobimbo
Very nice. Perhaps the crowd look a bit homogeneous. Maybe you can highlight some individuals or let some persons further away fade in the soft light.
artfulshrapnel
Very cool. Wonderful dreamlike/si fi mod.Are you going to have some more colours. Perhaps some small discreet spots. The only thing that annoys me a bit
is the angle of the left bridge construction. The horizontal constructions on the right are almost parallel to the horizon.

Thanks for the crit. Trying to get away from the centred composition

[pipobimbo]

I'm getting close to the end (won't have the time to improve my picture much more).
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2214/pipobimbocafestival00wi.jpg

@JanJager
Thanks for the comment.
Try to mirror your image. I think it's better. As our eyes use to go from left to right, I feel a bit strange about having a focal point on the left side, and a kind of a void on the right one. On the contrary, it seems more definite on the other side.
But the composition already feel better with the extension on the right.

[JanJager]

pipobimbo
Thanks I see what you mean. Sorry you have little time. But it looking great already.

[pipobimbo]

Thanks.

I'll see if I can do better, but as I said, it's only my second image using this kind of techniques and material. So I need much more time than every one here to do even small changes...

I think my problem is more with light and colours now.

We'll see what happens.

[RichLyons]

bashing away at this one, had fun working in the details of the buildings, now have the crowd to work out... will finish up tomorrow.
Cheers Rich

[pipobimbo]

@RichLyons
Really nice work.

[Absorber]

@ RichLyons: I envy your skills! Its nice how you got from the coloured sketch to the almost-lineless image under it (step 2 and 3)
The image is a bit to small to criticize the details but overall feels good. Except the speaker in the middle, its way to 'in your face', I think you should scatter those around and make them a bit smaller. Or put the bigger one in the right corner. Good luck!

@ pipobimbo: I think you should add a few lighter buildings in the back. the cloud feels to random to me. I also think you should add a brown tint to the blue buildings, they feel to cold and a to big contrast with the bright and warm festival. Good luck! :)

@ Janjager: It's nice to see the details coming along :) Although the image on the right feels like a lake and not really icy, to much waves are active ;) Keep it up!

@ thescala: I got nothing to say about the composition and the theme, there good. But how are you planning to put a festival up here? You could emphasize the mood by adding a rope of smaller lights from the lightningpole to the building on the right and so on ;)
Good luck

@ Zapp: A lot of work to work out all of the people (and then it might lose the essentials of the eow, but still it could become a great picture. I would love to see how the details in the back will come out. Take a look at a picture from Jesse van Dijk http://members.casema.nl/jessevandijk/finished/football.jpg


- WIP01:
Don't mind the crappy values, I'm just uploading a heavy-in-construction-image to keep the spirit up. *dreams of a image that can compete with jesse and kotaki*
EDIT: A second wip. Maybe I call it done, maybe not. Depends on tomorrow :)

[Nightblue]

Work in progress... about to take a starcraft break. Hopefully won't get carried away :P

[RichLyons]

another wip,,, this might be finished ish... will come back in a couple of day and see what I can do to help it read better.

[android411]

sooo this is what I got so far, really tedious to detail the image, hope I have some more time to work on it


Rich Lions - looks really great
Absorber - great thumbs and I think the one you´ve choosen works very well, I´m looking forward for your update

pipobimbo - I like this a lot, maybe I would bring the giant structures more out

Nightblue - looks good so far, I´m not sure with perspective of your figures though

artfulshrapnel very magical atmosphere, I also think that the perspective of the bridge looks off though

sorry I got not more time to comment on the other images right now

[thescala]

Updated:

I personally like where this is at. Although it might not be a "Festival" I think once I ad in a few more people and some lit pumpkins, I think itll get the point across.

I did have a question though. Does anyone know how to bring up the Perspective Grid in Ps. Ive looked it up in many places, but I can't seem to get it to work.

Rich Lyons: Noice job.
Android: I think it would look better without any dragons. I don't know what sort of time period/ era your playing with, but if I was in the crowd, Id be running for my life if I saw a giant dragon fight.

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm105/thescala/hhh.jpg

[pipobimbo]

pipobimbo - I like this a lot, maybe I would bring the giant structures more out

Thanks.
It's better actually.

Just have some little things to change, and I'm done.


Your idea appears more clearly to me, and I think it has a lot of potential...
But You have so much work ahead ! Hope, You'll managed.
I have a question : How did You draw the grid in perspective. Is it some kind of photoshop tool, or You made it ?

[alive]

my wip

[android411]

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Originally Posted by android411 View Post
pipobimbo -
Your idea appears more clearly to me, and I think it has a lot of potential...
But You have so much work ahead ! Hope, You'll managed.
I have a question : How did You draw the grid in perspective. Is it some kind of photoshop tool, or You made it ?

thanks and yes I´m working on it but I don´t think that I have the time to finish it, but it was a good practise anyway, replaced the dragon with an acrobat for test

I made the perspective grid manually with the line tool. When the vanishing point is outside of the canvas I usually use guidelines with "snap to" checked to mark the horizon line and vanishing point. There are some tutorials on how to make it automically in photoshop like this one: http://veerle-v2.duoh.com/blog/comments/transform_again_on_shape_layers_in_photoshop/ - never tried it out though

[Absorber]

android: The busy environment feels good. I like the setting and age, although I do think that rope-walkers are a chinese tradition?! I also think that the man on the rope is to big, he now is as tall as the entire rooftop.
I checked your perspective in photoshop, I won't bother you with a paint over ;) but if the house on the left is walking parallel with the 2 in the middle than his rooftop is a bit off in perspective. It's just a minor thing though.
And what is your lightsource? Your sky is telling me it's in the evening, just like the dark shadow in the corners but the light is very very strong so it must be the sun or a big-*ss light standing in the left.
Good luck with it ! :)
btw, photoshop has an Perspective tool called 'Vanishing point' although it's more for cloning in perspective, maybe it's useful

@ Alive: I like your colorscheme, I think you could add more people in the center. And I think you should find a balance between sharp edges and blurred ones in your final, the contrast between those is to big now I think. Keep it up!

@ thescale: try to get more loose elements in your picture, it feels all to static. You also should create more contrast, exaggerate the darkness and the light spots from the lights :) You also should blur out the background a bit, the 'mountains' don't really need that sharp outlines. Maybe you could add another spot of leaves in the upper/right corner just like the tree on the left.
Your concept has improved indeed, those people could be walking to the biggest festival ever existed in this village, add some elements like a line of flags and add some pumpkin decoration outside and your message will be better.

@ Rich: It's coming along very great. I think you can add a bit more focus on the person in the foreground and maybe a bit of rubbish from the crowd on the ground will give a more feeling of a festival. It now feels like some people walking by to go shopping and are in a hurry. Cheers!

@ Nightblue: Your carried away by Starcraft I guess? :P Your wip is cool, the lightning on the building/focuspoint is great. You could blend the building in the background with the sky a bit to add a good touch of atmospheric depth, but I think that will be fine with you. Good luck!

> My entry: It sucks and it won't become any better with more work in it. Maybe I will clean some lines but it will be almost the same as my last wip. Maybe the next eow will be better!
EDIT: I added the final, I won't upload it in the Final burning since there haven't been a voting for 3 weeks. I blame no one but I have a busy schedule tomorrow so I can't make time for it. Cheers!

[android411]

Absorber - thanks so much for the indepth crit

so I made some changes

good luck everyone

[pipobimbo]

@android411
Thanks for the tip.
I think You should add some more people, to create a real crowd.
And maybe change the gradient into something less "photoshoped".
I'm sure that a few minutes will give a different feeling about the people you drew.
And even if I like the way You're giving more definition to the city, I prefered the dragon version. It had some more animation in the air. And I think it was a good way to balance Your picture with some stuff in the air (up left corner might be a little too empty in comparison with the rest).

@Absorber
I really like the idea You came up with.
I also like the global composition with the roof overtaking everything else.
With a few things it creates an interesting atmosphere and bring more light to the few equipments You drew.
But I would change a few things that could make a real difference :
- change the big wheel (perspective problems)
- show it completely (to show that it's not the first equipment of a entertaining area, but the only thing they have - a form of compensation to their poor living condition)
- give a texture to the roof, to express it's nature and it's goal.
This could help You tell the story You had in mind.
Is it a huge structure that these people use as a roof, a protection ?
Is it a structure made by the external society to create a ghetto ?
...
Anyway, too bad the deadline is coming, because I think Your picture had a lot of potential.

[Mussy]

loving absorber's festival

[pipobimbo]

Just to create some activity on this thread, here's my final burning.
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6314/eow147pipobimbo.jpg

[OchreHand]

TheScala: I have to say, I really like your painting by itself. I don't necessarily get a Festival vibe from it, but it reminds me of those old school point and click adventure games like Monkey Island -- which is awesome!

RichLyons: This is a very strong entry. I like the simplification of the moving people compared to the tightness of buildings, and those loose power lines are a nice touch.

pipobimbo: Very fun entry. Really dig the dude holding the umbrella! One detail I have trouble believing are the scale of the people in the upper bridges. Those bridges don't look far away enough for the crowd to be that tiny -- maybe add some atmospheric haze to push it further away?

Absorber: I like the dankess of this, it's like a grimey city that's trying to have some fun. I think some of the village gets lost in the shadows, maybe hit the rooftops with some light to make them pop bit?

[thescala]

Ochrehand: I hear you, and I agree. I like it too, and Im gonna work on it a bit more, but if it looks good, then I don't think Im gonna throw in random people just for it to fulfil the requirements, unfortunately.

[Absorber]

Thanks for all the comments on my piece :) Definitely useful. Up to the next eow!

[pipobimbo]

@OchreHand
Thanks for the comment.
I see what You mean...
I'll see if I can find the time to make it look better.

[thescala]

Not to be rude, but but will there be a new EoW anytime soon?

[Vaejoun]

It seems we are stuck ^^

[Ragnj]

Nice stuff guys, I especially like pipos, reminds me of Eyvind Earle.

[Absorber]

I wanted to create the next eow, but I think my butt will be kicked for that so we just have to wait :)

[dragon4lunch]

The "woods" poll is not even up. So you guys will have to wait a looong time, perhaps.

[pipobimbo]

@Ragnj
Thanks for the compliment.
I don´t think my picture looks like any of the work I know of him. But our goal is to find a form of resonance with the people who watch our creations, right ? So in a way, it seems like an achievement to me.

@the others
I would definitely like a new EOW, but I´m stuck with my job, so I wouldn´t mind waiting a little bit more.

[JanJager]

Hope the festival still going on.

[chaosrocks]

ok ok I'm off grid most of the time
it's summer
be patient
Final burning posted

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=194260

beautiful work , by the way

[chaosrocks]

I know this is moving slow this summer, I will try to do better
new topic posted here
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2835608#post2835608