Looking to be challenged, so bring it if you can.

[Lidiev]

I want to be challenged for real, I need a mentor to bring the best out of me. I know I have a lot of potential in me, and I'm willing to take in whatever someone dishes out of me. So I'm not asking, I'm saying I need a mentor and thats all I have to say until someone comes out and mentors me.

[Tom Fenton]

Download xfire from www.xfire.com add fentonator tutoring starts when i know what your book collection is.

[Tom Fenton]

You will be seperaely tutored from Diarum

[Lidiev]

Alright sure, what do you mean by book collection?

[Tom Fenton]

Sorry bout the wait book collection what anatomy or art help books do you own? Can you get hold of bridgeman or loomis or hogarth books?

[Lidiev]

It's ok I have all of them, I've read most of Hogarth books, except his hand and shadows one.

I have books about perspective, digital painting, watercolor, oil painting.

I've read one book from both Loomis and Bridgeman.

[Tom Fenton]

Villpu?

[Lidiev]

Yes Sir!

[Tom Fenton]

ok, lets start with something to get you warmed up, i want you to do 6 drawings (parts of the body or portrait or full figure) from photo reference. a good one is kindgirls.com, however it is for over 18's so if not please use another site. DEADLINE - 48 Hours

[Tom Fenton]

ive decided to let you post a message here from the hour of that post you have 48 hours each deadline. is that understandable?

[Lidiev]

Alrighty sens-ii, I get you those drawings in a jiffy!

[Lidiev]

Here's my first one

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0004.jpg

[Tom Fenton]

nice lines, continue :)

[Lidiev]

Here's the rest

[Lidiev]

2.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0005.jpg

3.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0006.jpg

4.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0007.jpg

5.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0008.jpg

6.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0009.jpg

[Tom Fenton]

what do you think is going on when your doing these types of images?
Are you trying to get them down quickly for a reason? I think the quick part comes in putting down your masses which is the lines, in - between the lines and outside of the lines. after doing that you need to look. Look at the obj/life/ref you are drawing and draw exactly what you see. if its wrong carry on, u will make alot of mistakes and this does not matter it only makes sense at this point. Remember draw what you see, take your time. the more u put into it, the more ul get out.

[Tom Fenton]

study glen vilppu - drawing manual. (do you have it?)

i want you to draw all the images and read the hole book. Deadline - 2 weeks. If you can do this (easy) task then i have something that will tickle your tastebuds if you complete on time.

[Lidiev]

Ah well I set a time limit to draw them with my left hand for ten minutes, and then twenty minutes to put some value on it. I just want to test out how fast I could draw them with my left, but alright I'll read the book and I'll have the drawings by in the end of the two weeks sensiiii!

[Lidiev]

Hey I might be late posting the pictures, my website that I upload images is acting funny.

[Lidiev]

but I can't wait for what you got in store for me!

[Tom Fenton]

lets see your stuff dude, did u make it through the hole thing?

[Lidiev]

Here they are, I didn't get to finish them all, right now I am working on the atmospheric perspective

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0025.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0024.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0023.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0022.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0021.jpg

[Lidiev]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0020.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0019.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0018.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0017.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0016.jpg

[Lidiev]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0015.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0014.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0013.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0011.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0012.jpg

[Lidiev]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0010.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0009-1.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0008-1.jpg


http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0007-1.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0006-1.jpg

[Lidiev]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0005-1.jpg

[Lidiev]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0004-1.jpg

[Tom Fenton]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0020.jpg

^ those, the lines are to rough i do prefer your last post of them, and to be honest i didnt expect u to do that much even though it isnt complete. anyway u got the idea right? its easy buisiness, so continue doing the book studies without me tasking you them so much. Now for your next task i want you to go to www.posemaniacs.com click on thirty second drawing and start on 90 seconds, do 100 of them. then click 30 seconds, do 100 of them. then click 15 seconds, do 100 of them. also read the description on that page under the player. DEADLINE - 48 hours (more then enough time)

[Lidiev]

Hmm thats it?
I do at least twenty on posemaniac every day, but alright.

[Tom Fenton]

fine. i like how u project yourself i can see dedication, i want you to do that task 4 times in 24 hours, lets see how u get on. remember if u fail... u FAIL!

[Lidiev]

Dang now thats what I am talking about, but if I fail, it doesn't mean anything bad I'll just learn something new.
However just to point this out the ninety second option takes the full ninety seconds for it to transition into the next one so I'm doing the sixty second so it can fit in the time span that you have given me.
Just saying I need more exercises on value, because I know I am lacking on that section, so after this you should give me some exercises on value.

[Tom Fenton]

is your anatomy perfect? no, are your lines perfect? no, getting your lines right by understanding the mass and the outer mass is the start of this getting perfect buisiness, explore what u want in other time. but let me give you exercises to improve in the parts that make sense at this point. Im sorry i mean no disrespect or even to put u off but i want u to do well as i do myself and diarum. after all i want someone to paint with and collaborate! :P

[Lidiev]

Yeah I get your point, lines drawned with my left hand can be more messy than my right hand. I do know my anatomy I just have to practice drawing the figure more, in these areas, the hands, the twisting of the torso, the rotation of ulna bone which is control by the hand. and the shoulder areas can be a little tricky for me. I'll continue the exercises that you'll give me, because I demand myself to get better everyday, but that would be cool to collaborate in painting areas.

[Lidiev]

I apologize for being late, didn't pay the internet bill. Heres the exercises.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0032.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0033.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0033-1.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0034.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0036.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0037.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0035.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0038.jpg

[Lidiev]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0043.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0042.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0041.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0040.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/lidiev/Artwork%202010/scan0039.jpg

[Tom Fenton]

same again and a values studie , paint a black and white enviroment, character and weapon for a sci-fi atmosphoric Story (you can also do the creative writing part about the character and world) 1 week deadline lets see how u do :)

[Lidiev]

You are going to have to be specific on the value study, and the character study. For the black and white environment, I am a bit inexperience in digital painting, so you have to show me some tips in digital painting considering you are my mentor for now.

What requirements do you want in the character study, and you going to have to extend it to two weeks, because classes are starting and I am going to need some more time.

[cherylfoster]

Try to place quickly because of what? I think this game is quickly suppressed the mass line in you - the line between the line and the outside world. After that, you need to find. View OBJ / life / number of paint and paint what he sees. If it's wrong, and you make many mistakes, no matter, only then it is justified.

[Lidiev]

what are you talking about?