DSG 364: Creature: The misunderstood troll

[dsg bot]

Today's topic is: Creature: The misunderstood troll

[Cybot Floor]

funny. i just read this article about a misunderstood troll 5 minutes ago:
spiegel.de (german) (http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzkultur/0,1518,287798,00.html)

[schmu_20mol]

nice article Cybot Floor ... it was an interesting read ... thx

[schmu_20mol]

~45 min expression

DSG - misunderstood Troll (http://schmu.250free.com/conceptart/DSG---misunderstoodTroll.jpg)

[dfacto]

Me and form_n_focus did this on OC. He had to leave though so we didn't get too far. Mine is the troll politician, and form never got to work his out. Neither is finished, but it will have to do for today.

http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v19/dfunkt/364_copy.jpg

[Tiger_Lily]

Well, my second post (after being late on the last post). Don't ask me why I my mind thought this one up, but heres a different outlook on the subject pf a "troll" :P

http://animeneko.com/tacobell.jpg

[scumworks]

-You got me all wrong sir, I only use them to mow the lawn.
http://www.scumworks.com/otr/conceptart/troll.jpg

[teyekanik]

A super quick sketch... less than a 1/2 hour.. My first post here...

http://www.inkmafia.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/troll.jpg

[Bluedreamer]

Hello !!
This is my first post on DSG. My english is not very well so be lenient :) .

http://membres.lycos.fr/bluedreamer23/images/misunderstood_troll2.jpg

[afklamer]

well this one took me quiet some time...

http://mukaka.00it.com/DSG/troll.JPG

[Beatnik]

http://www.zmans.com/misc/dsg_364.jpg

[Mr Man]

It looks a bit crap and small but it only took a few minutes. if only i had a tablet. Im getting photo shop soon:D
http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/mrswoman/troll_thingy.bmp

[Railboy]

http://www.atomicagedog.com/art/dailysketch/misunderstoodtroll.jpg
I was going to draw a little kid, but my cat walked in and started meowing. So I figured I'd put him in instead.

teyekanik - Nice and moody. I wish I could see what he's holding better, though.

Nagasch - Cool. :cool:

[teyekanik]

Thnks RailBoy.. it's supposed to be a baby. . . I dig your take on a troll too!

[ApricotSoup]

Nice topic, had some fun doing this =]
nice work so far by the way people, here's my troll and his wollipop, done at uni inbetween learning things I already knew, about 45mins of photoshop.

http://images3.deviantart.com/i/2004/09/b/9/Misunderstood_troll.jpg

http://www.deviantart.com/view/5476954/

sorry the pic doesn't work, don't know what's up with that, just follow the link if you please :D

[Mad Giraffe]

Here's mine..finnaly got back to the valuabe lessons of DSG:P

http://www.xs4all.nl/~rfriet/peppo/images/trollofdespair.jpg

Apricotsoup-Devianart doesn't allow direct linking.....I know..it's stupid( it's because so you don't use their fre unlimited space, just as an image sever..not as what they ment it for(but IMHO the people there are a bit too wooptidoo there...no construcitvity an criticism..)). Cool troll, like his eyes. Needs more defnition f from though. (I like lollipops:p)

Railboy-Aaahw..he looks so..happy..nice teeth, and the eyes also look good. Nice color for the skin. But his fingers are looking a bit wonky to me...and the cat looks a bit flat compared to the troll...

Mr Man-It almost looks like the troll is strangling the girl and he gives me the creeps with that tutu....

Beatnik-He looks sad...good job:thumbsup:....but it's a bit hard to figure out the story behind this...why is he e standing inside?..with a flowr?...hmm..and somehow this let's me think of a hobbit:rolleyes:...

today
Nagasch-Nice pose..but maybe a bit background..and an object he is leaning would help with strenghting the pose. The colthing looks Very Rasta-man..but maybe not the pants...I like the smoke an joint;)...

Bluedreamer-Welcome to the DSG!;) hmm..another sad troll...I like the loincloth and grass.:) It looks a bit flat though...perhaps you should add a bit more contrast by picking a light source and add some darker shadows.

teyekanik-Cute:p. I like the affectionatre expression on his face.(althought the baby looks a bit squished..). Cool horns:).
MAybe you should work on it some more..this could be a very cool image:D.

Edit: I know, I know...mine is veeeery sloppy..was a bit lazy :rolleyes:

[Carnifex]

couldn't help it...:D
http://img1.photobucket.com/albums/1003/fisite/pink.jpg
can you guess?:D

[ApricotSoup]

I've linked at least 10 other pics directly from deviantart to this site before. this is the first problem I've had... :(

[Mad Giraffe]

That's strange...then I don't know..actually...but I've heard..hmmm

heyy..it works now....straange...ah well

[Phuzion]

k, a quicky... will probably post again later. Got another idea kickin' around in my strange dome.

http://www.savagesunarts.com/Post/troll.jpg

[Mad Giraffe]

Someone here likes to draw womans:rolleyes: .......nice color job anyways:p

[Beatnik]

http://www.zmans.com/misc/dsg_364b.jpg

[Morr]

http://img1.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Morriperkele/speed29.jpg
Kinda fast coloring but oh well...

Railboy I kinda stole your idea... kinda
I was out of ideas and wanted to draw a troll :)

Carnifex ... thats kinda evil :D

[Amerasu]

I didn't spend too long on this so it's a bit scribbly and rushed. Though I may do another one if I get enough time - it's a fun topic :)

http://amerasu.randomleft.com/ca/feb25_04_troll.jpg

Morr - That's very cute! I like the simplicity, I think it works well for your pic.
Beatnik - sexy stuff ;) But I think I like your flower troll most.
Phuzion - she's nicely drawn
Carnifex - I'm not sure who that reminds me of but I'm sure she's trollish. Pink?
Mad Giraffe - I like the colours and the mood, and his big stick. Is he sad or shy? I can't tell for sure.
ApricotSoup - *laugh* Love the lollipop idea
Railboy - Your troll is just great, I love his face. The colours too.
Mr Man - Bit small to make out but he's definitely a misunderstood troll
Nagasch - That's great, love the costume!
Bluedreamer - he reminds me a little of Dobby (is that his name?) from Harry Potter, cute
Nagasch - Really like this one for the atmosphere. Though he's quickly drawn, I think you captured the moment. Nice :)
Nagasch - haha! Reminds me of warhammer for some reason. Like his beard.
Tiger_Lily - Awwww, cute!
dfacto - Love the politician, very real to life ;)
schmu_20mol - I like that style, almost abstract.

[Carnifex]

*referring to album title and making such a fuzz about herself sometimes with alcohol excess and stuff*:evilbat:
hardly used reference.maybe should have done it more?
phuzion that is delicious.:)
good work from everyone else too.

[DocBoom]

http://www.85hertz.de/bilder/troll.jpg

love your troll railboy - can't understand why your cat doesn't like him :p

[Matt Dixon]

http://www.vortex.plus.com/Troll.jpg

'The Misunderstood Troll' sounds like a title for a kids book to me, so I went for that kind of style.

Beatnik - Both great, but I particularly like the first.
Phuzion - Lovin' it. Can we call you a regular now? ;)
Railboy - My favourite so far. What a great pic!

Looks like another good topic. Nice work all!

[0kelvin]

Started this last night, then finished it when I got up this morning. Not sure how long it took total.
http://pluh.com/members/baldy/DSG/MisunderstoodTroll.jpg

Great stuff so far guys. Love your troll, railboy.


0kelvin

[Jaded]

Man all you guys are awesome, Really great job everyone!
Haven't posted any yet you guys are too good!
Matt Dixon, Railboy, 0Kelvin do you guys do yours on a wacom?

[Matt Dixon]

Jaded - Yep. A crusty old 12x12 Ultrapad. Needs updating really...

[Jaded]

Man i commend you your awesome I just got mine and am having a hard time besides i like to draw cause i can't! But love it have to practice to post

[ducktape]

Who's more misunderstood than the artist? :)

http://www.offramp.org/~ducktape/364.gif

Crits later - must fix dinner!

[0kelvin]

Yep, I'm using a 4x5 Graphire I got for Christmas.



0kelvin

[Railboy]

Me too, a 4X5 graphire.

[riq]

okelvin- that's sweet!! you get the best interpretation prize

Matt Dixon- nice pic.

phuzion- really nice feel.

And everyone- great stuff!!


Here's my first contribution after a bit of a break that luckily included a vacation..

http://www.creativeion.com/doodles/thassan/troll.jpg

[schmu_20mol]

hey this dsg turned out great... kudos to you all! ...

nice to see you around DocBoom :chug:

[Hush]

http://home.surewest.net/thang_le/dsg-364.jpg

[Dietz]

Hush - wow... utterly amazing... very well done my friend :)

[kinokuniya]

Very quick for me - just about 5 mins

http://www.kurwandor.com/jascha/images/troll.jpg

[Shelldragon]

Ok guys, do u know the definition of troll? It's a scandinavian folklore creatures, you know those ugly things that can live in mountains or under bridges? Like president Bush! Troll is not sexy naked woman with tinted skin and horns like most of you crazy fantasy artists like to draw. I guess that's the definition of FANTASY. It's all in your head. Good drawings guys but can u be a little more "realistic" in the fantasy world and draw trolls the "ugly way" and not "your sexual fantasy way"? Just a little pet peeve of mine. :p

[Railboy]

ShellDragon - ::calm yourself::It's just daily sketch group.

[Iiori]

^^ I don't understand this troll. Also don't understand why I started so low on the paper.

http://solaceape.fataldreamscape.com/images/troll.jpg

You guys are awesome. I really like the female trolls of kinokuniya and Phuzion. Riq yours is quite cool too, and always love yours matt.

[kinokuniya]

obviously shelldragon, you've never met a sexy female troll under a bridge :P ;)

[Shelldragon]

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/10594/misunderstood%20troll%20copy.jpg

wow i didn't think i'd get any responses to that, hehehe, well anyway here's my troll with a troll doll.
kinokuniya's troll reminds me of Sally from Nightmare Before Xmas more than it does a troll. I have met a troll before but he was really big and eating a volkswagen so I didn't think I'd bother to ask what his women look like.

[micmac]

Poor fella...

http://www3.sympatico.ca/michael.macvicar/michael/mm_dsg_13.jpg

I also thought this topic was appropriate for a children's story. And that's why I went with the above style.

Railboy - Your troll is very expressive and unique. Looks great!

MM

[Kirt]

Originally posted by Shelldragon
... can u be a little more "realistic" in the fantasy world ...

I think I found this quote in the dictionary under oxymoron.

Seriously though, chill out Shelldragon. The DSG is about trying new things and the artist's interpretation of the subject. If someone thinks Trolls are sexy, then more power to them. :chug:

[Cindre2000]

http://www.geocities.com/cindre2000/misunderstood_troll.jpg

1st post...

Well, he is misunderstood by many things. His fellows in his tribe kind of misunderstood him and kicked him out. Then the adventurers misuderstood him and removed his arm. And you cannot forget that bear. Or even the hornets. Oh yeah, that female troll misunderstood his advance too.

:rolleyes:

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If the picture does not work, maybe this will. (http://www.geocities.com/cindre2000/misunderstood_troll.jpg)

Edit: Forget it, now i need a new place to host me so my pictures can be refered to. :cry: :cry: :cry:

[|NTeRN]

i think what shelldragon meant was draw them the way they are know for. for example the trolls in lotr. i can see *her* point tho but no one can expect people to draw things they way they themselves see them.

[Shinbun Kakashi]

Uh...Cindre I cannot see either pic...me sad now :( Maybe there is some other way for you to post it?

Hush---ahhhh yours made me sad...poor troll =(

~Shin

[Shelldragon]

Uhm, people, i think you are reacting too much to what I said, it was joshingly u know, thats why I quoted "realistic". I didn't want this to get all woo big ass discussion over it. All I meant was that fantasy artists tend to draw females overly sexy when guys are allowed to be ugly. It's a constant in this male dominated world. Oh and guys: I'm a girl! Shelldragon comes from my name: Michelle. Ya i know there's a troll female in here that isn't super sexy but I was just making a remark in general, not just in this dsg. Ever looked in a fantasy art book? Count the ugly female to sexy female ratio and the ugly male to sexy male ratio. You'll find that because the artists are mostly male they will draw near naked women a lot of the time whenever there is a female present. Kinda objectifies us and makes us as if we don't have brains or that we can only do well if we look good. So there's my two cents, I wasn't freaking out in the first comment I made so I don't know why you people were telling me to chill out. cuz it did just start out jokingly.. then it turned into a discussion.. hahaha yah.. :confused:

[SicFrost]

here's my submission, it's a lil late as usual - but whatever - i hope this fits the troll subject

http://www.crackerbee.com/pix/tina_troll2.jpg

_B0R1S

[Shelldragon]

Cool art sic8sic, her sword reminds me of that girl from that fighting game.. I dont remember the name of the game but the girl was Ivy I think. She had a sword that disconnected like that, totally kickass! :cool:

[Shelldragon]

OH yah, the game is Soul Caliber

[SicFrost]

yes that's exactly what i was going for - my friend suggest it

too bad the only thing i could use for reference was my belt

and the fighting game is Soul Calibur

don't ever forget that,:mad: j/k

thanks for the feedback

_B0R1S

EDIT - sorry didn't see you reply

[Sapphire]

Actually, I agree with shell to a point... although you can draw a troll however you want, and it is completely open-ended depending on where you get your definition of "troll", I persionally have to applaud to people who are willing to not take the "lusty, fantasy chick" route. It's totally okay if they do, but props to those who don't. ;) This is completely my own opinion, but it's just one of those things.. look in any Spectrum book and you have a very large ratio of scantily-clad thong women. It's just a nice change not to have that.

-Sapph

[Wastrel]

Originally posted by Shelldragon
Uhm, people, i think you are reacting too much to what I said, it was joshingly u know, thats why I quoted "realistic". I didn't want this to get all woo big ass discussion over it. All I meant was that fantasy artists tend to draw females overly sexy when guys are allowed to be ugly. It's a constant in this male dominated world. Oh and guys: I'm a girl! Shelldragon comes from my name: Michelle. Ya i know there's a troll female in here that isn't super sexy but I was just making a remark in general, not just in this dsg. Ever looked in a fantasy art book? Count the ugly female to sexy female ratio and the ugly male to sexy male ratio. You'll find that because the artists are mostly male they will draw near naked women a lot of the time whenever there is a female present. Kinda objectifies us and makes us as if we don't have brains or that we can only do well if we look good. So there's my two cents, I wasn't freaking out in the first comment I made so I don't know why you people were telling me to chill out. cuz it did just start out jokingly.. then it turned into a discussion.. hahaha yah.. :confused: :rolleyes: please, and guys arent usually depicted as big hunks of muscle that just hit things with swords? this is daily sketch group. people are here to give their interpretations of the subject matter, and everyone here has done a great job on this one!

[Flip]

Very little time today, so this is very quick and very dirty, 10-15 mins in photoshop.
http://users.bigpond.net.au/laing/dsg/troll.jpg
(I wish I'd gone for pencil and paper for such a quick piece)

[illy]

hi guys... i've been viewing this site for about a month now, but never joined. this is my very first post, and i plan to try and take part in this daily sketch group so i can learn more from you guys. hope to get to know a lot of you better, and have a good time learning how to become a better artist. i don't have any formal training (beside basic drawing), but i love to do it as a hobby. anyways, here is my take on the topic. :)

http://www.softwareoutlet.com/illy/sketches/troll.jpg

[tumbra]

http://img8.photobucket.com/albums/v26/tumbra/Lil_Troll.jpg
I'm back

[Mykro]

http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v20/deadlybacon/mtroll01.jpg

[JF.]

yay my first post! :)
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=44291
anyone know where I could put images up for free?

[MetheGelfling]

Here's my Misunderstood Troll (http://www.deviantart.com/view/5489315/). Sorry it's a deviant link. I've gotta get some webspace here pretty soon. I was gonna try to color it but I didn't have time. Hope yah like it.

[kinokuniya]

sorry if my post didn't fit under the topic heading - i was just inspired by the other "sexy" female troll so i did my own.

As for shell's point about sexy women - i also agree to an extent, but i wouldn't go so far as to say it's because in this world Driven by men, women are objectified as much as possible. Plus, your statement about what "Men's" intent is in drawing women a certain way, is not only a generalization but also a fallacy. Drawing a women "scantily clad" in no way implies anything about her intellegence, especially in the world of comics. In fact, i find it somewhat offensive that you'd implicitly stereotype me like that without knowing anything about me.
I dont remember seeing any "ugly" looking comic characters in the last 5 comics i read- which included both genders. Either way one of the beauties of Fantasy is that it isn't what we see in real life, it's whatever we imagine, and unless someone finds these scantily clad women or perfectly built men truly and personally offensive, we as artists have the right to draw pretty much whatever we want.

[Fil]

here's my attempt

http://www.flux-interactive.com/pics/troll.jpg

[SicFrost]

@ kinokuniya - dude you're a genius
i couldn't have put it into a better context than you have...
i bow down to your articulance

_B0R1S

[Phuzion]

Aw the sexy thing isn't going over too well ay? Heh heh, I'm just in a sexy girl mood right now, so I'm having fun incorporating it into these topics in some way. But, just for the record, I dont' think of women as objects, which is why I kind of make fun of myself in some of these pics. Also, I usually draw a sexy girl that can kick mad ass, with a sort of "hit on me and your dead before you can count to one" attitude, not a "I'm helpless so save me and I'll sleep with you" attitude. So yeah, hopefully, this whole sexy girl thing is just a phase, but you never know!! AAAAAAAHHHH...

As to being a regular, I'm certainly going to try. I use to do this everyday when we only had an hour and a half to do it, and the topic was announced in the IRC chat, and that was a blast... So yeah, I'll try... but school and work keep me pretty busy. Anywho, nice turn out, and nice work everyone! sic8sic, and Hush, really nice moods and well executed. Props. Peace all

[Caspergt]

Hush - Real nice one. Good storytelling. Poetic. My favorite.

[ducktape]

Phuzion: I just wanted to mention this -

Thank you for drawing attractive women with a more realistic cup size! I get SO sick of seeing beachballs and watermelons attached to sticks! Nice stuff from the past few days! :D

[Hush]

ah, comments. thanks for taking time to say something. i read everything, even though i dont respond to all.

sometimes i like volleyballs, but if it's a more 'serious' subject, it's kinda hard not thinking about the boob that's bigger than her head

[Shelldragon]

wow so much attention! You have good points kinokuniya, but i'm really not trying to make this into an argument but you are taking some of the things I said and over generalizing them. What I write are just my opinions and this could get into a huge debate if we wanted.

"i wouldn't go so far as to say it's because in this world Driven by men, women are objectified as much as possible." I didn't say that. I just said "It's a constant in this male dominated world" And you can't disagree with that I think. I also didn't say males objectify women as much as possible. I just mentioned " Kinda objectifies "us. And sure, all the sexy girls here are kickass kinds that don't bow to anyone but like I said before it makes it seem like you can't do succeed or be awesome unless you are sexy.

My commentary comes from my irriation towards objectification in the media. I come to dsg, etc to get away from the real world and the media world where they show us hot lean girls and tell us we need to look like that. Of course they don't say this directly but it's implied.

I really appreciate what Sapphire has to say in this case. Where whatever you do is totally open and cool but props to those who take the more challenging road. It is really easy to draw a beautiful person. But more difficult to draw someone who is rather plain or even "ugly". There are radicals on every spectrum. I happen to be the radical that is on the side where I absolutely hate the exploitation of women in any form. That's just me, I won't rip apart what you do, in fact i'll prolly make a comment like good drawing, really good but I personally don't like the content.
This issue dives deeper into people's troubles with seperating the artists from the art. I don't have to like the art to like you! I apologize if I offend but I thought I'd give a different light to the world for once. Thanks all. Great art, really!

[saladbowl]

http://mitglied.lycos.de/apollo_hbc/troll.jpg

I was going for something else...but I just can't find an erazor...this sucks! :(
Oh well...