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Martheart
June 10th, 2010, 02:17 PM
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ROUND #201:: ANDROMEDA


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Andromeda

To kick off a fresh new reign of ChoW we dive into greek mythology and this week's topic is: Andromeda, the chained princess.

Story:
Andromeda was the princess of the kingdom of Ethiopia and daughter of Cassiope and Cepheus. One day, Cassiope bragged that she was prettier than the daughters of the seagod Nereus. The Greek Gods did not appreciate this and sent a seamonster to punish the queen for her arrogance. The only way to stop the monster from destroying the kingdom, was to sacrifice beautiful Andromeda. She was chained to a rock in the sea to be devoured by the sea monster...


Find out what happened to Andromeda:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda_(mythology)

http://www.mythindex.com/greek-mythology/A/Andromeda.html


The story of Andromeda inspired many artists throughout the ages:

http://bitterhermit.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/1869_edward_poynter_-_andromeda.jpg

http://www.wga.hu/art/w/wtewael/perseus.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/Gustave_Dor%C3%A9_Andromeda.jpg


Now it's time she inspires you!


Since you have some more time for this ChoW, you will have to include the seamonster in some way. Feel free to experiment with Andromeda's outfit, style and time period, but keep to the story and include the sea monster.

Good luck!


PLEASE NOTE THE NEW DEADLINE TIME: 9:00 PM (GMT+1)
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daestwen
June 10th, 2010, 02:19 PM
Okay guys! Meet the new Chow Mods. :D I'll be around too, but please be as respectful and polite to these guys as you are with me! Arthemis IX and IceMoon have been Chowers for a while so I'm sure most of you know them. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. :]

They chose the topic today, so we hope you enjoy it!

Nev87
June 10th, 2010, 02:24 PM
Woooooo! new 100 Chows, new beginnings for all. I been lurking for awhile. but as a resolution for completing college, ive decided to become more involved in the event I watch so carefully on a week to week basis :D and lets just see the topic is OOOOOOOOOOOH! *runs off to plug in the drawing tablet*

btw congrats on the promotions icemoon and arthemis ix :yayca:

Supervlieg
June 10th, 2010, 02:37 PM
Im sure chow is in great hands! Good luck guys!

LORD M
June 10th, 2010, 02:44 PM
Yummy. Very tastefull choise for CHOW. Always loved the old ancient texts and stories.

This is relevant to my intrests. Might join in on the fun. :)

Pixeltuner
June 10th, 2010, 02:58 PM
Dutchies are taking over! Gefeliciteerd! (congrats in Dutch)
And nice topic, I love Greek Mythology and an added bonus of creature design is always fun :)

rumpenstiltzkin
June 10th, 2010, 03:13 PM
gonna try to get something finished this time around! love the topic :]
and hello and cheers for the new mods! :D

ArtbyWard
June 10th, 2010, 03:17 PM
Haha thanks guys :hugsmile:. And good luck with this new round of chow! :medusachow:

Yeshin
June 10th, 2010, 03:25 PM
Great theme!

Aneru
June 10th, 2010, 04:33 PM
I really like this theme, going to dive right in and hope I can finish it in time.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/InuSaotome/2CHOW201.jpg

sanya
June 10th, 2010, 04:37 PM
Okay guys! Meet the new Chow Mods. :D I'll be around too, but please be as respectful and polite to these guys as you are with me! Arthemis IX and IceMoon have been Chowers for a while so I'm sure most of you know them. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. :]

They chose the topic today, so we hope you enjoy it!


I've only participated in one of these as so far but have lurked through the CHOW forum often and, all I have to say is, thanks for all your hard work Daestwen!

Lady Chestnut
June 10th, 2010, 07:02 PM
Very interesting theme 8D A few ideas are already popping in my mind. Hope I can make it to the deadline!

drobyazko
June 10th, 2010, 09:36 PM
i'm gonna do this one! for sure! i hope...awesome topic, love anything greek mythology. summer means time to do awesome stuff and lotsa time.

LadyLooLauren
June 10th, 2010, 11:14 PM
Yay! Just what I needed to help get me out of my art block <3

Here are some rough sketches I did... just brainstorming a bit. Crits welcome.

Gavage
June 11th, 2010, 09:26 AM
The royal theme continues! Wonderful.

Idea going along the sacrificial route, with a white painted face on dark skin - need to get a careful balance so she doesn't blend into the monster too much though. Andromeda seems to be classically depicted as nude (which makes sense if she's about to be eaten I guess) so I'm keeping her costume down to paint and jewels, hopefully arranged in a relatively tasteful manner.

saintsaber
June 11th, 2010, 11:43 AM
greetings everyone! somewhat new here and after doing some DSG i think its time to try my hand in CHOW.

anyhow, i think im going to go somewhat classical with this one. And i must say this is a great theme as it could result to a very dramatic and powerful piece. (which i think its a favorite among master painters)

danlambert
June 11th, 2010, 12:20 PM
I'm finally done with uni and can begin competing in the legendary chow!

Heres a few thumbnails from last night, I'm liking the 2nd one personally but please tell me what you think. I'm thinking about keeping the monster as a silhouette or just implying it as oppose to making it all about a creature.

SCF
June 11th, 2010, 12:25 PM
Dutchies are taking over! Gefeliciteerd! (congrats in Dutch)

Inderdaad ;)


I wanted to do some kind of giant viper fish for a sea monster, as those things are terrifying. Because of that, she's ended up being chained to a rock [/i]underwater[/i], which should be interesting; I've never done an underwater scene before.

Just laying out some ideas here.

http://www.scfworks.com/art/Andromeda_sk.jpg

LadyLooLauren: The first one's a good start, but the composition feels a little boring at this point. Keep that in mind when adding the monster or otherwise expanding on it.
Missile: Well, that's certainly a disturbing-looking monster. I like where you're going with the piece, but it doesn't really give the impression that she's in any danger or that she's a sacrifice.

danlambert
June 11th, 2010, 12:58 PM
SCF that looks great! I like the idea of using a viper or angler looking fish as a base, I look forward to seeing some compositions!

Ephelea
June 11th, 2010, 01:31 PM
I'm so in <3 here are some concepts, ideas are flowing.

Btw, love the angler/lamp fish thing you've got going on with your monster. XD

edit: found a better composition I think XD
Monsters are hard.

Refschaufscheik
June 11th, 2010, 02:54 PM
First of all - congrats Icemoon and Artemis. I am grateful that you'd take over - it is quite a load of work I could imagine! So thanks for keeping CHoW alive!

This is certainly a great theme - again. And monster included - this can only be as epic - if not more - than the monarch round.

Crits:
Aneru: Sketch has a nice composition. Her head is a bit big, considering her body.
DanLambert I like the last sketch most. It's got more life than the others. I like the idea of making the monster only a shadow. I had considered that too.
SCF Monster is spot on! Excited to see where this is going...

My initial sketch:

So here's where I'm at. I am thinking of making the monster water only, the nereids too. As if it was only a figment of her imagination. That will definitely be a challenge for me! Crits very welcome! I'm here to learn!
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alexson
June 11th, 2010, 03:35 PM
Hello everyone! Great topic this week, and already the competition is looking hard. Here's an idea I had for my picture. Any feedback is most appreciated.

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Sakuranym
June 11th, 2010, 03:45 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/Kit_Foxfire/chow.jpg
First pass.Going to add more bits/bobs and maybe change up the pose? Not sure. I feel like since this is a character competition playing with clothing/hair, even if in the traditional story Andromeda was naked and depicted as helpless, is a good thing. A lot of the entries so far seem to be turning into really nice illustrations but nothing much original! Design the character! <3

SCF: I'm loving your creature so far!

Sentinel.
June 11th, 2010, 04:32 PM
I like to think Andromeda wouldn't go down without a fight :D

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I'm sad to see you go as the head honcho Dae, but I know Chow can only ever get better. Thanks for all the hard work and endless enthusiasm, and for launching Team Chow, because it was the most awesome thing I've ever done on this forum :heart: Thanks for stepping up to the plate Arthemis IX and IceMoon! I know we're in good hands.

Refschaufscheik
June 11th, 2010, 04:40 PM
I've been thinking about what Sakuranym said, and well it is true. And I'm torn - waders or not?
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dragon4lunch
June 11th, 2010, 05:10 PM
This round will wind up being more about a scene, rather than character design I think. Essentially Andromeda is just a pretty naked chick.

gpalmer
June 11th, 2010, 05:11 PM
I keep meaning to do a CHOW and chickening out at about the sketch stage without posting anything. However, I have gotten far enough to make some reference collages.

Here's a bunch of historical Andromedas (and one Boris), and some reference for the character proper. Wiki claims the Greeks tended to refer to just about anywhere with dark-skinned people as Ethiopia, so I've included both some reference for the current country (top set are Oromo, the most populous ethnic group, middle set is a mixture) and some 19th century photos for Jaffa, where some people claim the Andromeda legend ought to be set. I can't help but notice that earlier Andromedas get more clothes.

I hope these are helpful - since I made them up for myself, it seemed like they might be worth posting.

Now with sketch.

Jay-Zee
June 11th, 2010, 07:52 PM
Sentinel- I love the energy, her expression is great. I hope you have time to finish it.

Good luck to the new Moderators; I hope this doesn't mean Daestwen and AlyFell will no longer participate in CHOW, that would make me sad.

courtyard
June 11th, 2010, 10:54 PM
Things were going really well until bloody Perseus showed up...

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Just a rough start so far...hope I'll finish. :)

fdisk
June 11th, 2010, 11:30 PM
Really cool stuff so far everyone!

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Lalilulelo
June 12th, 2010, 12:51 AM
What Ethiopia are they talking about? All the interpretations are white women.

Martheart
June 12th, 2010, 02:55 AM
Thanks everyone for the warm welcome :D Sketches are already looking very promising.


This round will wind up being more about a scene, rather than character design I think. Essentially Andromeda is just a pretty naked chick.

Who says your Andromeda has to be a pretty naked chick? She's a chained princess. You can experiment with the costume, style and time period, as long as you keep the story of Andromeda in there somewhere. Be creative and think out of the box!

What Ethiopia are they talking about? All the interpretations are white women.

Feel free to express your interpretation of Andromeda! In the stories, they mention her father was the king of Ethiopia, so she might have been a half-ethiopian.

Refschaufscheik
June 12th, 2010, 04:25 AM
Courtyard - this is a great start. Nice thinking!

Lodin
June 12th, 2010, 04:46 AM
Hi everybody,
I saw some nice sketches. great round in perspective.
My wip :
http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/2533/chowwip1.jpg (http://img812.imageshack.us/i/chowwip1.jpg/)http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6913/chowwip2.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/chowwip2.jpg/)

Rhdnor
June 12th, 2010, 05:12 AM
I like to think Andromeda wouldn't go down without a fight :D


I was thinking along the same lines. Andromeda's character is denied agency throughout the story, first because of some silly bragging on part of her mother and second when she's offered up like a piece of meat to end the mess that was no fault of hers to begin with. At least (well, of course, Perseus arrives to save her but she doesn't know that) Andromeda can show couragein the face of inevitable death and add some CHARACTER to her character, besides being, you know, just the hot naked chick chained to a rock, which seems to have been done over and over by all the artists.

Go for it sentinel, save Andromeda's character! I'll try my own version if I get time.


Here's my WIP, I figured I could give Andromeda to play a small part in her own rescue, and since the only weapon lying around were her own chains...I really need to get the anatomy right, plus the figures seem to overlap each other so I'm going to space things out a bit. It's very WIPy right now, I hope to make a better drawing soon.

Lodin
June 12th, 2010, 05:21 AM
Sorry for my english, but i'm trying to answer:

Accept her destiny is not less noble, it's just another point of view. When Gods are strong in the life of people, contest them can be an offense. I understand and i agree with your opinion, but a resigned Andromeda has not less character. She is different.

Rhdnor
June 12th, 2010, 05:21 AM
Things were going really well until bloody Perseus showed up...

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Just a rough start so far...hope I'll finish. :)

Nice angle to the original story. Haha!

ZenzybaR
June 12th, 2010, 06:04 AM
I'm thinking about joining this.

courtyard
June 12th, 2010, 07:16 AM
one more update...thanks for the kind words, guys. Really looking forward to seeing these develop.

Arthemis-would you prefer we just keep updating old posts rather than make new ones? It's been a while since I've participated and I saw a few messages in other threads indicating this might be the new rule... (Congrats, btw!)
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Sentinel.
June 12th, 2010, 09:26 AM
Update with some rough color! :)

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Lodin and rgeorge: Well said by both of you! I agree with both interpretations - how she reacts shows a lot about who she is, whether she's defiant or resigned by her fate. In my case, I wanted to show a more spirited princess who was angry and not afraid to show it. I imagine being attacked by a giant sea monster would bring out the fight or flight response something fierce. :D

Lodin: I love your update, especially the monster in the background. He feels ominous and looming without taking all the focus away from her. I'm very excited to see where you take it.

SCF: Your monster is really promising and could make for some interesting images - I could see it coming up from behind her, with its jaws wide open about to swallow her whole, or coiling up from underneath. Very cool idea :D

Sakuranym: Lovely design on her so far, and I really like your muted palette.

I'll comment on more later, I have to get ready for an appointment! Looking good so far, everyone :D

JanJager
June 12th, 2010, 09:33 AM
Lodin
I like the colours.
fdisk
Good start
courtyard
Fine picture looking very classical Greece.
gpalmer
Very dramatic to have the moment the monster comes around the corner.
A rely inspiring collage of ref pictures. Interesting to see that in the earliest versions Perseus where naked and Andromeda whoring clothes.
Refschaufscheik
I like your first sketch. Looking forward to see how it develops.
Sentinel
Nice movement in the wip. After seeing your previous work am sure its going to bee grate.
Sakuranym
Good character And I like the tentacles.
alexson
Good start. I think you have the base for a good picture.
Ephelea
Good sketches. My favourite is the second
SCFS
Scary monster. I like the dark eyes on it. Makes it look like a kind of wierd creature,
danlambert
Good sketches. The third is my favourite. I think she is looking most shackle to the cliff on that.
saintsaber
Good start You cough the fear and pain in her face. Perhaps working a bit on the anatomy and volume.
Missile
Great idea with the white painted face on dark skin. She rely looks that she is going to be sacrificed. I also like the monster that forms a nice graphical element.
LadyLooLauren
Good start. The second is my favourite.
Aneru
Good dynamic sketch With the monster curving round the cliff. Perhaps her head and hands look a bit big at this moment.

Here is my wips. Could not help geting carryed away with the seen. The characer had to bee next step i guess.

ArtbyWard
June 12th, 2010, 09:42 AM
Arthemis-would you prefer we just keep updating old posts rather than make new ones? It's been a while since I've participated and I saw a few messages in other threads indicating this might be the new rule... (Congrats, btw!)


It's okay if you make new posts for now! :)


There are some awesome looking works of art in progress ladies and gentlemen!

JanJager and Sentinel <3

fdisk
June 12th, 2010, 10:56 AM
Decided to go with a more dynamic scene. I'm starting to agree that this challenge is more about the scene than about the character; but I'm OK with that :)

It just feels that if someone is being sacrificed to a sea monster they are not going to leave her there with weapons and armor to defend herself; she would be in typical sacrificial robes :/

I also made Adromeda a little more African, I love drawing dreadlocks :)

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Pixeltuner
June 12th, 2010, 10:58 AM
Working in good old fashioned pencil atm. Sold my tablet and my Cintiq still hasn't been delivered yet. Some nice entries coming along already, good stuff :)

SCF
June 12th, 2010, 12:44 PM
fdisk: I like this new composition. It's pretty scary!
JanJager: Wow, all of those look great already. I like the second one and the last three in particular.
Sentinel: It already looks stunning! Nice mood, nice colours.
Lodin: I like your interpretation. Very serene and dynamic at the same time.

Getting started on the actual image now.

http://www.scfworks.com/art/Andromeda_wip1.jpg

Ephelea
June 12th, 2010, 02:14 PM
I think it's possible to get artistic ADD. :/
I can't decide on anything. "What colors, what composition, what type o monster?"

Domo apparently is my fill in monster.

QueenGwenevere
June 12th, 2010, 02:40 PM
Damn you, you WOULD have a cool mythological subject just when I need to work on other stuff...

Why do I have the feeling this round is going to end up featuring a plethora of naked babes with tentacle monsters... ;)

Gavage
June 12th, 2010, 02:53 PM
SCF, thank you for the suggestion, I've attempted to rework the scene into looking a little more sacrificial now. Your sea creature sketches are looking excellent, particularly the newest one. The eyes on it scare the crap out of me for some reason.

WIP 2.

matt kohr
June 12th, 2010, 03:13 PM
looking good, everyone

progress:

http://www.mattkohr.com/sketchbook/mKohr_CHOW201_WIP01.jpg

pixel cheetah
June 12th, 2010, 03:27 PM
Wow, great Chow. Here are some wips (influenced by Frazetta), C&C most welcomed :

Sealegs
June 12th, 2010, 06:31 PM
Cool Topic guys!

Irrlaeufer
June 12th, 2010, 06:33 PM
someone said naked chick and tentacles :D

fdisk
June 12th, 2010, 09:38 PM
Pixel Cheetah: I like No. 2
SCF: Thanks for the feedback; I love your monster; it looks very maritime; and I like the twist of having Andromeda fully underwater.
JanJager: Those look fantastic! I'd love for you to explore and take the last one all the way!

Jager
June 12th, 2010, 10:01 PM
http://www.torjager.se/temp/gf/chow201-07-webb.jpg

Sweet topic, mythology is such an awesome source! very good entries already
here is my first attempt at this one

Some comments

Missile like her pose and expression and the composition a lot, cool with the Greek statues also.

pixel cheetah Nice sketches, perhaps try to think about the planes in the composition, foreground , middle ground and background ,
and what element goes where. Maybe also if the creature and girl not are the same size, i.e. one being the dominant shape, it would help the composition .

matt kohr looking good , nice anatomy and awsome monster. Think the girls head looks a bit to big for her body to me.

SCF Wow an underwater scene, looking great, love the way her hair flows in the water.

saintsaber
June 12th, 2010, 10:19 PM
Wow didnt know CHOW could be this challenging by tackling a lot of design issues and also with the great sketches popping up. (keeps the pressure on!)

thanks JanJager for your insight but im going to make a new one. I been thinking of what sakuranym said so i put aside my initial sketch and came up with a new one. Since we can take our on interpretations on this so im gonna be a bit adventurous with this by making andromeda a galactic princess and she was chained onto an asteroid as sacrifice to a cosmic space monster. hope this fits in...

staticpen
June 12th, 2010, 10:48 PM
Good work, guys! A lot of pieces here showing promise! This is my first CHOW, so I'm excited to be here with such a great topic.

Pixel Cheetah, those are looking good. :) If I'd say anything, it's that it's Andromeda's CHOW, so I'd go with a comp that lets the viewer see her face - her state of mind. Really get into her. The leviathan isn't as important, but some of these ideas you have use the beast for movement, which is awesome. Have you considered a sketch showcasing the faces of both characters?

Composition sketch:

An article said inspirations and thought processes were encouraged, so here I go.
Stylistically I'm most inspired by watercolorist Yoshitaka Amano and charcoal artists Henry Yan and Zhaoming Wu, and compositionally I draw from classical paintings as a main source of influence. Nearly every piece I draw is composed with the logarithmic spiral or the armature of the rectangle semi-transparent on a separate layer. Nearly all classical paintings are set at or near eye level (off the top of your head, can you think of a renaissance painting from an isometric perspective, or a dramatic low angle?) which is something that has, purposely or not I don't know, set itself into my own sense of composition. This particular sketch was composed with the armature of the rectangle.

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/163/5/d/CHOW_201_comp_by_static_pen.jpg

LadyLooLauren
June 13th, 2010, 01:07 AM
Lodin- Looooove your compositon, and the contrast of the colors.

Rgeorge- I like your idea, especially with Andromeda riding with the chains, effin' cool!

Courtyard- Teehee! It looks like it tickles.

Sentinel- I like the perspective, it looks so inteeenseeee.

JanJager- I like the 2nd one, maybe because it's the most fleshed out, but the 4th (top) one could be an interesting version, it feels... forlorn?

fdsk- I like the perspective, and the monster design. MOAR DREADLOCKS.

SDC- Angler Eel monster! Looks great! Also, the underwater scene is great.

Ephelea- Who says Domo can't be a sea monster? I'd like to see a few more angles or something for your drawing, the composition seems a leedle bland.

Missile- I like your take on Andromeda, the white face paint is brilliant, as are the statues for stones.

matt- Andromeda looks like she's gonna have to choke a seamonster. I like the stylized look.

pixel cheetah- I like the angles, but we need to see her face, imo.

Irrlaeufer- When I heard sea monster, tentacles popped into my head too... I like that your coloring is more vivid.

Jager- it looks so ghostly, I want to see more!

saintsaber- Andromeda, the galatic epic, she's a constellation, so I think it works. I like your twist to it. The space monster reminds me of this one anime called Betterman; makes me all nostalgic.

staticpen- I feel like a watercolored image would look really lovely, maybe try a few different kneeling poses.

Well, while I was riding around with my sis today, I did some sketches, unfortunately I don't have any scanner, so digital cam it is! My favvy so far is the arch, lemme know what you think ;D

Rusty
June 13th, 2010, 01:08 AM
Finally got a lot of free time on my hands to do one of these, tricky scene to depict without it turning into bondage fetish! Had Bonnie Tyler's "I need a Hero" playing on loop when doing this sketch, heh!

~Jase

Elina
June 13th, 2010, 01:33 AM
First Andromeda is already in underwater. Any advice for composition?

Rhdnor
June 13th, 2010, 01:55 AM
Decided to go with a more dynamic scene.

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I like the angle, she's not just been tied up but happily being lowered into/hovered over the monsters jaws, gives the scenario the menace and fear that goes into the preparation a sacrificial scene.

Sentinel's colours are coming along beautifully. The play on the light can already be seen.

I like the the whole intergalactic sacrifice scene with the techno monster with saintsaber. Can't wait to see how it turns out.

Ephelea--Andromeda looks coy and the monster totally in love in the latest wip. Is it meant to be humourous because it totally is so, also in the last nom-nom wip.

SCF--great idea to have the underwater scene.

Koh
June 13th, 2010, 02:16 AM
This is what I'm working on so far, prolly gonna resize it and stuff.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d139/kohryusan/andromedawips.jpg

Rusty
June 13th, 2010, 04:00 AM
Added monster, setting sun with Perseus silhouette needs to be rearranged, unbalanced composition.

~Jase

Vaejoun
June 13th, 2010, 05:44 AM
Sweet topic. And difficult, because its really easy to forget the character design and pay the attention to the monster or the scenery.

Veshkau
June 13th, 2010, 06:38 AM
Sweet topic. And difficult, because its really easy to forget the character design and pay the attention to the monster or the scenery.

I would go as far as to say it's not a character design exercise at all tbh - just a naked/almost naked woman and a sea monster. The winning entry will be the best drawn or most "cinematic" unfortunately.

pixel cheetah
June 13th, 2010, 08:16 AM
Jager: thanks for the tip. I am a noob when it comes to composition and never thought about that.

staticpen, LadyLooLauren: thanks, I will think about that. Though it does not seem to be easy to make dynamic angles and then show the face of both characters. Also, tbh I am a bit more interested in the face of the sea monster .. :p

fdisk: thanks.

Talking about faces, staticpen, have you thought of making the two face touch eachother and showing a bit more close up? This way you have the choice to show the girls face reasonable close and you would have good opportunity to show any emotion that you want.

Pixeltuner
June 13th, 2010, 08:26 AM
I would go as far as to say it's not a character design exercise at all tbh - just a naked/almost naked woman and a sea monster. The winning entry will be the best drawn or most "cinematic" unfortunately.

Did you even read the brief? It's up to you to make something original out of it. It doesn't say 'draw naked woman and seamonster'.

Ephelea
June 13th, 2010, 08:32 AM
Ephelea--Andromeda looks coy and the monster totally in love in the latest wip. Is it meant to be humourous because it totally is so, also in the last nom-nom wip.

I have the inability to be srs.
Srs bzns is too srs.

daestwen
June 13th, 2010, 08:32 AM
Yeah, I would even point out that it's not in your best interest to have her naked at all - since the poll images go through photobucket, sometimes they cut for nudity.

Sentinel.
June 13th, 2010, 09:18 AM
Thank you for the kind words! Here's my latest. :/ I'm not too thrilled with it at the moment, so since we have another week I'm going to spend today sketching out new ideas before I waste much more time with this one.

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blau
June 13th, 2010, 09:34 AM
Many thanks to Daestwen and Aly for all their work and the best of lucks to the two new mods!

Cool topic, here's my first sketch, from the monster's POV, I hope it shows enough of the monster :)

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/1210/22630525.jpg

jpedro
June 13th, 2010, 10:03 AM
hi guys,
i made two pencil sketches today, trying to figure out a composition for this.
i wanted to draw an Andromeda that is more defiant than shown in the ref images posted(although gotta love them, specially Dore!).

i'll figure out more of the design of her as i go along. i like the second a bit better because of the more pulled in focus and therefore better opportunity to show a bit more of her.


Rusty, i really like your last version, works great as an illustration. the seamonster has become a bit of the star in the image though, which may be a concern for a Chow?

Sakuranym, love this. i think it's a great idea to use those tentacles and kinda use them for the design of the character too...as in how the suckers of the tentacles kinda repeat as a design element on the ornaments of her clothes. real cool, well done.

Sentinel, i agree, always root for the underdog! i like the composition a lot, you got the focus right at the confrontation point. hope you dont mind i chose a similar underlying theme for my interpretation.

Courtyard, hehe cool :)

Lady Chestnut
June 13th, 2010, 10:46 AM
Jpedro: Cool sketches, both two of them! But I agree with you, the second one seems more interesting.

Sentinel: I already love how the sketch is looking. Hope you can come up with an idea that motivates you!

Very early sketch. Since I won't be able to compete with the general level of awesomeness, I'll go for a chibi-esque look XD Compositionally I think it could be much improved, but I'm a bit lost on that subject...any advice would be most welcome!
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ninyanernel
June 13th, 2010, 10:47 AM
quick sketch..

Vaejoun
June 13th, 2010, 11:18 AM
This is more difficult then I thought. ^^°

Worked half the day over this with a lots of thumbs. These are the 2 I think are the best. My problem is, that Andromeda always becomes so small, so that its hard to see details in the final resolution.

@Rusty:
I love your lines and how you painted that scenery, strongely reminds me of some Flash Gorden scenes XD

@Jpedro: Very dynamic sketches. I prefer the 1st one.

danlambert
June 13th, 2010, 12:47 PM
Some awesome wips from everyone so far, I'll leave so crits when I have more time.

Here's what I have so as, I went with the 2nd thumbnail as I got the best feedback from it, and I thought it worked better compositionally, still not sure what I'm doing with the monster though, and it still seem to be lacking something.

Value study wip

Ephelea
June 13th, 2010, 12:55 PM
Lady Chestnut <3 I love the chibi humour in your piece. I was stuck, and thought a good laugh was in need, so I dropped my actual piece for a moment and came up with: ANTDROMEDA!

Lodin
June 13th, 2010, 02:18 PM
Sentinel : I love your light/composition. Great expression of " f... off!". The colors are harmonious. I'm waiting the final :)
Jager : Your draw and composition is very poetic. She looks like a Faery( like a Loisel cover). I'm impatient to see the next step.
Matt Kohr : The draw is great. I'll expect to see ambiance to see how you will color it.

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3685/chowwip3.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/i/chowwip3.jpg/)

Silveraxe
June 13th, 2010, 02:26 PM
Great topic! And congrats to the new mods! :)
I'll be sketching up something soon.

razwit
June 13th, 2010, 02:38 PM
Here's my WIP so far. Haven't quite decided what clothing she should be wearing, or how far away from the reference paintings I want to stray. this pic could very well end up in the sci-fi category... we'll see
http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy111/razwit_bucket/Andromeda.jpg

staticpen
June 13th, 2010, 02:59 PM
pixel cheetah - Yeah, the close up crop is actually something I've been deliberating on quite heavily. I'm really on the fence. And there's an interesting opportunity to show Andromeda's acceptance of her fate if their faces touch, but the size of the leviathan's head would mean eye contact would be impossible, and that's something I think I want in this one. But yeah, the close up crop is definitely on my mind, and I'll post it below!

Rusty - I like what you've got so far! The picture really leads your eye around. Perhaps some of the imbalance can be ridded of by eliminating negative space that doesn't serve the composition. I did a quick crop, sketched in a horizon so nothing was floating (though this may have been something you wanted to keep, ala Mucha or something) and put an armature over it so you could see how everything balanced out (note the diagonal lines on the monster and andromeda). Just an idea!
http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/98e7b37fd0425571647fd40b729071476g.jpg

vaejoun & danlambert - very nice! I dig the moods very much.

ephelea - hahahahaha! win :D


Anyhow, here's a closer crop. Really hard for me to decide between this one and the last. The first feels more like a classical mythology painting might look, but this one is more personal to the point. Opinions?

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/164/b/5/CHOW201_staticpen_crop_by_static_pen.jpg

Ephelea
June 13th, 2010, 03:04 PM
Static, I like this closer crp, it allows us to see more of Andromeda's personage :)

alexson
June 13th, 2010, 03:06 PM
Rusty I really love your sketch, I very much look forward to see it's progress!

I tightened up my picture a bit, I don't have much knowledge about composition but I try to think about how the viewers eye would move in the picture.
Sorry if my entry is not very original, I just like doing fantasy stuff.
Ofcourse any feedback is much appreciated.

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IVIATT
June 13th, 2010, 03:25 PM
Sentinal thats looking absolutely killer. Lighting rocks, dramatic, subtle, solid, all in one. The move to put the little dots of fluorescent green/blue in the top of the dress will really help the color composition in the long run. Just nail that hand!!! And then this piece will own. Cant wait to see it finished.

And Lodin thats an awesome start! Definatly gonna look great once you start working your rendering skills. A word of advice: white fabric is a tricky thing to get right. I'm thinkin some blue shadows in the folds might look nice, and maybe some yellow/pink highlights to contextualize it in the lighting you've established. I trust you'll nail it.

JR McGee
June 13th, 2010, 03:28 PM
did some initial sketches of what i might want Andromeda to look like....i'm not really giving the sea monster much thought i'll just free style that. (my first CHOW! hope i finish it)

my first sketch:

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/164/9/e/CHOW_201___Andromeda_sketches_by_JR_McGee.jpg


I didnt feel she seemed to show the helplessness of Andromeda much so i did a different take. tho i still like initial design more lol. (might be the booty meat:assspank:)

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/164/d/4/CHOW_201___Andromeda_sketch_2_by_JR_McGee.jpg

fdisk
June 13th, 2010, 03:51 PM
Lodin: That looks great so far! The monster looks a little too swamp-thingish, maybe you should add some scales when you render it to make it look more sea-like.

Static: Great composition!

Cleaning up the lines in prep for painting:

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Bnoch
June 13th, 2010, 05:22 PM
Classic subject matter, dig it. Here's some recent progress.

I decided on an idea of a modern Andromeda having various tattoos representing her inevitable destiny. It's too nice outside to be in my cave. It's time to blind the neighborhood children with my city-folk skin tone.

Keep CHOWin' peeps, this stuff will make all of us better, and knowing is half the battle... G.I.JOE!

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telamon
June 13th, 2010, 05:41 PM
Here's my piece :)
It still pretty rough, i hope i'll get the time to finish it before the challenge ends.

pixel cheetah
June 13th, 2010, 06:42 PM
Rusty: I like your skecth, it leads the eye nicely from the monster to the girl, and then back to monster and to the moon. IMO it is a keeper.

danlambert: wow, very nice! Perhaps add a ramp to right (as the perpestive suggests that the rock is much above the sea level), and make the monster just climbing out from the sea to the ramp looking up to the girl.

alexson: looks good, the girl is very energetic!

Bnoch: man, life is not fair ... :P wow, amd double wow!

One more sketch, trying to keep the angles and show the face too:

Rusty
June 13th, 2010, 08:23 PM
Cheers all,

staticpen interesting system you got there i usually just go by eye and feel ;) Probably because i never use such approaches to art but i honestly don't have a clue how that grid thing works, i'll read up about it and get back to ya, thanks :)

jpedro yep i totally agree with ya about the monster dominating the image, i was gonna counter balance it when i get to the color stage, very warm colors almost glowing around Andromeda and the rest of the image a cold color palette.

Started tightening up the line work here.

~Jase

gpalmer
June 13th, 2010, 10:20 PM
When I posted my previous sketch, I failed to crit any prior ones. Oops! I hope I'm doing this properly this time.

Sentinel - Nice action and wonderful colors. You're doing a really good job actually -designing- the character, instead of just painting a girl and a rock!

Alexson - Great job actually foregrounding Andromeda. A lot of us on this thread seem to be having trouble keeping the monster from taking over.

Telamon - The way you have her positioned, and the limpness of her limbs makes Andromeda look a little bit like a blow-up doll. Perhaps a little more tension or strain against the chains? That said, I envy your atmospherics.

Rusty - That's going beautifully, but the half-a-moon is bugging me a bit. Will it be positioned differently in the final? As it is, it keeps drawing my eye.


As for mine: still working on it - Had to spend a lot of time messing with the composition, and I'm still not pleased. Those new foreground rocks give the impression that I can't paint feet, and I'm trying to hide it. In fact, while I can't paint feet, I wouldn't generally try sticking them behind rocks. I needed something horizontal to stop the eye dropping down the right side of the canvas. I don't know if this is successful. But, perhaps something will present itself!

vineris
June 13th, 2010, 10:22 PM
Andromeda the Pirate Princess and the Drooling Frog Beast:

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I plan to improve the hands. And add more drool.

Rusty
June 13th, 2010, 10:37 PM
Telamon hope you don't mind dude did a quick paint over, i liked certain elements you had goin on but needed to be pushed further especially with foreshortening don't be afraid to experiment with that stuff. One good tip i picked up about cast shadows is they should be the opposite of your light source (warm light = cold shadow and visa versa) this helps avoid that muddy look. Otherwise keep it up man :)

gpalmer yeah it's bugging me to, i haven't finalised where i'm placing it atm so i'll leave it for last.

Rhdnor
June 13th, 2010, 10:49 PM
Wow that picture picture totally popped out. How do you guys do it?

courtyard
June 13th, 2010, 10:54 PM
Here are the comments that I had time for--great work everyone! (please excuse typos--typing fast!)
Rusty: Wow- beautiful linework. the contrast between the two is really striking.
Pixel Cheetah I like the line of her body. Also cool that you chose this perspective to make the monster the central point of focus
Telamon-nice start. The characters in the back give the whole image a really ominous feeling.
Bnoch Wow. Unbelievably good. Color, composition, everything. Her expression and design are incredible!!
fdisk-Very energetic image. I like the view down the monster's throat. Would be cool if her facial expression could match his intensity.
JR McGee I prefer the initial design as well. I like her expression in the upper-righthand drawing of the first image.
Alexson-I like how powerful you've made her. Currently, the monster kind of reads like he is behind her and that she's not looking at him. Can't wait to see how it evolves.
Staticpen: I really like how she is leaning in towards him--I'm intrigued about what is going through her mind.
Razwit: Interesting start. It has a dream-like quality to it--almost like she's imagining him.
Lodin I love the strong sense of atmosphere. The centered composition works, I think.
EpheliaHa! Great take on the subject. lmao@ anteater.
danlambert It looks very elegant so far. Love how you've lit her silhouette.
vaejoun I prefer the second composition. I like that she is active and struggling rather than resigned to her fate.
ninyanernel the diagonal horizon is an exciting choice. Looking forward to seeing where you take it.
Lady Chestnut I love the monster. Ha! He looks very friendly. :)
jpedro I agree with you about the second composition. Looks like the monster has met his match!
blau-I really like the perspective you chose
Sentinel Love it, but I can't wait to see your second idea. If you go with this one, she doesn't quite look like she's staring at him, but I'm not sure how you could fix that without obscuring her face or cutting off his body. I absolutely adored your previous chow/queen entry btw!
koh Nice start. Might work better if the composition was less centered?
gpalmer most of the other compositions use quite cool palettes--like that you're experimenting with warmth and reds
vineris Fun start. I love the bird!!

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This is where I am so far...crits appreciated.
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LadyLooLauren
June 13th, 2010, 11:32 PM
HNNGH. More Andromedas, the one with the cigar fish is gonna be my final. I though of cement shoes for some reason, then wanted to turn the Andromeda story into some kinda Roger Rabbit thing. I got this.

MasterTroglodyte
June 13th, 2010, 11:35 PM
So here's another go at CHoW... I have to say I'm really liking the structure, anatomy and style of Rusty's piece, but the emotion in Bnoch's, especially in Andromeda's face, is also impressive. All around great work... What I have thus far needs a lot of help. I know the composition is wanting... anyone have any ideas?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4052/4698324391_2307aaf1d3.jpg

delightful_piffle
June 14th, 2010, 12:09 AM
Rusty: Special love for your composition dude! I agree with you on it being unbalanced but I'm also with Staticpen on it leading the eye very well. Especially love your lizard monster and the way Andromeda looks like she has either fainted from fright or exhaustion.

jpedro: I like your little sketches, especially the second chicks face. Look forward to seeing its development.

Danlambert: I think the reason it feels so empty is because it is, a lot of open space, very little detail, it needs some more emotion. Art wise it looks great though :)

Lodin: Painting looks beautiful as usual, I especially love how her hair reminds me of seaweed.

JR McGee: I like seeing the thought process you're going through and look forward to seeing the finished project.

fdisk: Really like your monster but Andromeda seems like a side note . . . she doesn't really feel like she fits the rest of the picture. Her perspective feels a little off too. I think she needs the same attention that the monster got.

Bnoch: I am loving your painting! Andromeda's expression is amazing, you can really feel her emotion. And I love how stylistic the rest of the picture is but dude there is something odd going on with her feet? Needs some reference maybe but otherwise love it!

Telamon: I like the first sketches more, maybe because I visualize her head tilted back more in agony than looking out into the abyss with that expression. But otherwise pretty good choice in composition.

Courtyard: Kinky ;D

And here is mine so far, I'm having a hard time with designing the monster. I know that I want him to be serpent like and sharp fangs and all that. I'm also not too sure about the way Andromeda's chin going into her neck is anatomically . . . so critique would be much appreciated :3 Plus it's just a sketch before I start on the finished work.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u233/apolloness/Andromeda_Sketch.jpg

multi_crab
June 14th, 2010, 12:12 AM
lady chestnut so cute.....:steph:

staticpen
June 14th, 2010, 12:53 AM
lodin - very striking white dress! I think it's the highlight of your piece so far, and i like the motion. :D

razwit - very interesting, going with the sci-fi angle.

alexson - Nice! I think this composition is pretty good, actually. A great frame is made by the leviathan. I would only recommend adding a third value. Right now you've got three space-taking elements, being Andromeda, the beast and the sky, and the sky and figure are the same value. I'd pick one of the three things and make it dark and see how it looks. Good start!

fdisk - very intense! keep it up.

bnoch - great job, and thanks for the process steps and reference/inspiration bits. Great idea with the tattoos!

rusty - great line quality, man! don't worry about studying that thing - all that matters about it is placing angles along the lines and putting key elements along/on the intersections as a compositional aid. Whatever the case, your eyes and intuition seem to suit you well!

courtyard - Nice! Only thing I would like to see is more depth in her figure. With the moon and rock where they are, you might see what it looks like to put her upper body in a little more shadow and have the leg under the bright moonlight (the shadow on the ground where she sits suggests her torso would be in shadow, but it's relatively the same value as her exposed leg).

mastertroglodyte - Well, right now she' just floating there, so it's hard to say something this early in the drawing. The general composition is pretty striking, though. :)

piffle - before you added color her face was wider, which looked more anatomically correct, I think. Also, there's a ton of negative space on the left that isn't serving the picture in any way that I can tell yet. Maybe something goes there later? What do you think?

I've decided to go with the larger composition and complete the piece, then decide on cropping when I can see everything fleshed out. Here's a quick update. Forgive the zoom distortion!

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/5d416db00586f448d9e2a65b270415396g.jpg

JanJager
June 14th, 2010, 01:14 AM
Some great entries.
Hers my wip

Vaejoun
June 14th, 2010, 04:12 AM
@rusty:
nice paintover, curious how your pic will look with color.

@Staticpen:
Nice update, did you use a ref for her ? If not its even more impressive.

@delightful_piffle: Theres a lot of free space on the left side, maybe bringing her more to the left would improve the pic.

Heres a WIP from me. I decided on the 2nd sketch and made it a little higher.
Still searching for values, light and colors. At the moment it has a lot from Vallejo's works. Not sure where to go. I want the picture to have a green-muddy atmosphere. Like what you have when you walk in a dark, wet tunnel and something moves in the water right next to your foot. ^^

And she will wear something. I want her to look a little more like a girl than a woman, to give her an innocent feeling.

Lodin
June 14th, 2010, 04:30 AM
Thanks for your critics. As you propose, I've made some adds. I changed the head of the monster to looks more octopus than "swamp monster". And some yellow/blue in the dress.

Static pen : Thanks for your encouragements. Your draw is very sensitive, i'm impressed. I'm impatient to see the monster.

Master troglodyte : It's a great challenge to choose so more movement and that light. If i can suggest you something, it would be perhaps better to change the orientation of her right foot to improve the silhouette.

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/4812/chowwip4.jpg (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/chowwip4.jpg/)

Rhdnor
June 14th, 2010, 04:36 AM
First wip for the outline. I don't know squat about male anatomy so I'm wondering whether I'll be able to pull this off.

Actually I realized it's about andromeda and she was sort of disappearing in a corner in my earlier wip.

Lodin
June 14th, 2010, 09:08 AM
My final entry :

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/2820/chow201lodin.jpg (http://img717.imageshack.us/i/chow201lodin.jpg/)

Jussslic
June 14th, 2010, 10:23 AM
I'm seriously digging a lot of the work so far this round... some of these are shaping up to be really awesome pieces!

Rusty
June 14th, 2010, 10:41 AM
Little bit more, redesigned the sea monster a little i think the singular eye thing has better shock value, wasn't memorable before.

staticpen I probably wouldn't end up using that thing anyway :) Digging Andromeda's proportions on your latest maybe a bit too fussy with the hair though.

Good work everyone, keep going!

~Jase

Ishren
June 14th, 2010, 11:08 AM
I think this is my first chow. Hopefully I'll finish it.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e339/Mioshi/andromedacopy-1.jpg

marak24
June 14th, 2010, 11:43 AM
Daaaang Rusty, lookin' good there. I especially love the new single eye, definitely makes me do a double take. A little more expression on her face would be nice though :)

Vaejoun
June 14th, 2010, 11:48 AM
I spent the day on this. But I am not very happy with it. Something is still botering me, but I cant make out what it is. I wanted it to have a realistic lightning ... which I reached only on some parts but not in the complete picture

Hints, tipss, paintovers ? Dunno. I am kind of cluesless at the moment.

Pinback
June 14th, 2010, 12:08 PM
I didn't really plan on entering this CHOW, but looking at all the sweet entries thus far has inspired me somewhat.

Here's my first thoughts on the subject;

telamon
June 14th, 2010, 02:22 PM
Rusty fantastic pencilwork!

gpalmer Thanks mate, I like the composition in your piece, try to avoid using pure black/white colors - a limited predefined palette usually creates the illusion of "atmosphere".

Rusty I don't mind at all! On the contrary you got me thinking about a few things. I fully agree with the warm/cold shadows theory, but the existence of that torch is misleading. I was inspired by those renaissance artworks from page 1, so I was gonna go for that soft centrered light that you usually can find in rembrant paintings, but by old habit I kindof planted that stupid torch as a lightsource without thinking. So maybe I should just remove it cause i don't really want it to affect the light in the scene, But on the other hand it gives a great color contrast to the otherwise 'muddy' palette.
It's really been frustrating to paint such soft light, been wondering several times what it'd look like if I 'spiced it up'.
But you kindof settled my curiosity! =)

delightful_piffle Thanks for the reminder! That was the look I was going for but kindof went astray. I've repainted her face atleast 3 times already, but I really have troubles with forshortened faces. The pose dosen't feel right without that backtilted head either, already tried repainting the shoulders and torso to match the current head pose but in the end i guess it's best to revert the head to the initial design.

staticpen god i love those realistic proportions!

Sakuranym
June 14th, 2010, 02:41 PM
Wow so many awesome and amazing entries so far!!!

I think my favorites are Rusty and Staticpen so far!!

Here's some COLOR! Probably last wip before the final. Any C&C is vastly appreciated :) (actually waah, looking at this now her hand is too small! X)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/Kit_Foxfire/chowp.jpg

Pixeltuner
June 14th, 2010, 03:20 PM
Sakuranym: Yet again, great style but you might take a look at the composition and how you direct things to one focal point. You can do a lot more with the hair and tentacles 'swirling' around her face. Furthermore, it still looks kinda flat. Maybe that will change with more colour and value, but keep it in mind. :) Rock on!

rumpenstiltzkin
June 14th, 2010, 03:41 PM
Sakuranym: i really do like your style alot :)
Rusty: really nice linework there! the seamonster kinda gets to much attention tho...

many cool entries, ima gonna push myself to finish this one for once!

Lady Chestnut
June 14th, 2010, 04:21 PM
Vineris: Love your concept XD And I must agree with Courtyard, the bird is perfect!
Courtyard: She's smiling...? Wait, is that a heart?? Ah... Now I get the idea. Very nice, and cleverly composed!
Delightful Piffle: Andromeda's pose is cool- but I have the sensation that the monster is lacking space. Maybe cutting a bit from the left, and adding on the other side so the monster can have more room...
Staticpen: Love the personal feeling on your sketch. That "face to face" can come up really good... Plus, Andromeda's expression is already awesome. Can't wait to see it finished!
Sakuranym: I agree with Pixelturner's critique, but... I can't keep drooling from watching your colours XD Wish I could say something more constructive, I'm sorry!
Rumpenstiltlzkin: both two poses are nice, but I like the second one better. Though I think the serpent lacks presence in the composition. It's cool to leave it as a suggestion, something that's there but you don't see it at first glance. But maybe a tail, or another revealing detail, would do good to the image, IDK.

...Did a few more touch ups to Ceto, and now IMO it looks quite better. Did I go too far with the wedding ring? XDD A huge pearl is also a good option... m, I'm undecided on that, what do you think?
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Aneru
June 14th, 2010, 04:51 PM
There are some truly amazing entries, I wish I could comment on all of them but I'm a little late since my last post... Definitely futzed around with all kinds of things. I know there are a lot of issues here and there but I'm working towards finishing this one so that completing will become easier over time.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/InuSaotome/conceptArt/CHOW201-7.jpg

staticpen
June 14th, 2010, 06:56 PM
Thanks everyone!

Rusty - good call on the hair. It's pretty wavy, but I'll see what it looks like toned down.

ishren - nice!! That head design for the leviathan is awesome. A lot of potential!

sakuranym - Yeah, go after that hand. Also, is where her thigh is narrowing where her knee is going to be? If so, it makes her appear a little stunted and short, and I'd suggest checking it out with a lengthened thigh.

chesnut - so when she says no to marriage, he eats her? :D adorable

aneru - keep it up! finishing the project at all can be one of the harder things to do, I know. I've dropped out of stuff like this before and always regretted it. :)

to anyone else, I'm sorry I couldn't get a word in - not all of the images are loading for me!

I had more than this done, but my computer crashed on me TWICE in less than three hours as I was drawing. Sometimes when I get going I forget to save, so I had to redo a lot of stuff. Anyhow, someone wanted to see the leviathan a bit worked out, so here's the first look on the drawing.

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/88b2c1bc3651cd8ba1112cce0075ad5b6g.jpg

telamon
June 14th, 2010, 07:53 PM
Managed to squeeze in a few hours tonight, sadly this was about all the time I had left this week.. T_T

But anyways C&C appreciated for the release candidate! =)
I tweaked the levels to get some color vibrancy but some part of me died on the spot. Not quite sure what happened.

Ephelea
June 14th, 2010, 09:43 PM
So, here's my latest WIP XD
So far, a lot of beautiful pieces in progress. Nice work.

Rusty
June 14th, 2010, 10:24 PM
Couple more quick paint overs, feels good not having a job because i can do all this fun stuff for once :)

Vaejoun You have chosen quite a tricky one but push the foreshortening and angles a bit more could spice it up, i think it also needed more of an interaction between the two characters. Really digging your creature design dude!

sakuranym You have a fun style but what is letting it down is the forms are too flat and saturation levels aren't high enough, vibrant colors would suit your style better imo. Jason Chan is a master at the whole Anime-realistic crossover style so study his stuff to really learn how to give your characters a bit more oomph!

~Jase

Martheart
June 15th, 2010, 04:37 AM
Very nice paintings everyone! I'm impressed! This topic actually lends itself perfectly for practicing human anatomy, composition and lighting and I see everyone experimenting with it. Nice work!

ismo
June 15th, 2010, 04:57 AM
telamon: Nice. I think you should work some more on the composition before getting too much into polishing.

staticpen: Fantastic! That's gonna be a great piece.

Rusty: Wow, classy! Digging the pose.

Lodin: The composition works well. Very cool piece.

Ephelea: Good. Maybe you could work on her expression a bit more.

Here's my sketch with basic lighting set up. It would be really helpful to get some honest critique at this stage. Paintovers accepted as well :D

AhChu
June 15th, 2010, 07:11 AM
Man you guys are putting out some killer work, so cool to see everyone's take on the subject. Well here is my thumb, was after a real imposing shot...and playing around with some colour. Will work out the design of her clothing next since I got a bit carried away with the creature...doh :)

Pixeltuner
June 15th, 2010, 10:03 AM
Tomorrow my Cintiq will finally arrive! Can't wait to jump in :)

Rusty
June 15th, 2010, 10:18 AM
I was originally planning to to a watercolor Mucha style image but decided to paint it instead, as much as it pained me to go over my lines i think i've made the right decision.

Still a way to go yet.

~Jase

Ishren
June 15th, 2010, 11:41 AM
Here's what I have so far. Going to try to get more done today. Lots of nice entries so far.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e339/Mioshi/andromedacopy-2.jpg

Vaejoun
June 15th, 2010, 01:07 PM
@Rusty: Thx for the nice paintover. My pic looks better in the closeup, but that doesnt change the lame overall look. I need way more practice.

Yours is great, it feels as if you had really used some oil like technique.
If you keep this up, the finnished piece will look like a Vallejo picture. ^^

The scenery and the monster are beautiful, but its a characterdesign, so I would like to see something more on her. Right now there is nothing special about her, except her red hair.

humboldt squid
June 15th, 2010, 02:07 PM
I would go as far as to say it's not a character design exercise at all tbh - just a naked/almost naked woman and a sea monster. The winning entry will be the best drawn or most "cinematic" unfortunately.

I don't really think this is true at all. There's a ridiculous amount of psychosexual (or just regular sexual) symbolism in the myth that shows up in most historical interpretations (which is why later depictions tend to be naked with phallic sea monsters) that you have a ton of freedom in exploring. Going full on Geiger would actually be fully appropriate this time around.

bahstudios
June 15th, 2010, 02:21 PM
I've been meaning to participate in CHOW for a while now, and since I'm a big fan of ancient history/cultures and mythology, now's as good a time as any to start. I hurt my drawing arm two days ago while doing yard work, though, and have been drawing a lot slower than I normally would as a result, so I'm not sure if I'll finish in time or not. I'm definitely going to try though, dangit!

Very, very nice entries so far. I love all the different interpretations not just on Andromeda's looks, but her apparent personality/the situation.

Anyway, he's a very, very rough WIP of mine. Third concept I've had for it, but the only one far enough along beyond pose planning to share.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a21/sbanzai/chow201_bahstudios_wip.png

Looks like she didn't need Perseus' help after all. ;)

Also, I think this is my first post here. So, uh... Hi!

SCF
June 15th, 2010, 04:24 PM
Some progress on mine. There's a few areas like her feet that I haven't touched at all yet, but the monster's pretty much done.

http://www.scfworks.com/art/Andromeda_wip5.jpg

MasterTroglodyte
June 15th, 2010, 05:39 PM
SCF - I love your rich color palette. The rust-crimson is a great underwater red! These are the colors I'd like to have in my future home, that is, if I ever get one. Just one caveat: I'm having hard time with the drapery on Andromeda. It doesn't feel "watery" enough. I suppose I'm expecting it to be more translucent.

Rusty - Wow! and wow! I like how structurally sound everything is in your piece... and your vivid colors remind me of some of my favorite fantasy paintings, most notably those of frazetta.

staticpen - I love your lines... that figure and face are spot on! And that hair!? And the intrigue between creature and character as opposed to fear is really cool, too. I don't know about Andromeda's arm though. I feels elongated.

I'm probably waaaaaaaay behind, but I thought I'd try another one of my ideas... Please crit, as I need all the help I can get...

I have some previous WIPs but due to some technical difficulties I didn't post them. I will add them in due course...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1299/4704661008_d6b6e90988.jpg

Sakuranym
June 15th, 2010, 08:27 PM
MasterTroglodyte Looking good! Nice perspective. I'd add more space to the bottom of the canvas so her feet are not chopped off-it's really awkward right now.

Pinback
June 15th, 2010, 10:21 PM
Here's my WIP, espescially loving Rusty and SCF's entries so far, although they're all looking really good.

AhChu
June 16th, 2010, 12:22 AM
PinBack, those are super sexy colours you have going on there....looking forward to seeing a bigger version as I can only get so close to my monitor :)

bahstudios
June 16th, 2010, 01:39 AM
Moving slow, but at least I'm getting stuff down. Base colors and lines are down, but still have background, shading, highlights and such to go.

Like a few others, I'm taking the darker-skinned Andromeda route.

DIMAGYAN
June 16th, 2010, 02:24 AM
Thanks for all the great work on CHOW Daestwen and Aly Fell.Congrats to Arthemis IX And IceMoon and good luck with the managment of this activity.
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Great topic.

I wanted to do a composition.At the moment just sketching.I wanted to do a somehow defiant Andromeda looking at those who give her as sacrifice to the monster.

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Rhdnor
June 16th, 2010, 08:26 AM
Hi! I started yet again, being unhappy with the earlier wips. I'm hoping I can pull this on off. I know she's no warrior princess but as long as she's making an effort it's fine by me. Feedback?

LeoListens
June 16th, 2010, 09:33 AM
Here's my first take on Andromeda. I did the sketches yesterday, while traveling by train on my way home. The train was rocking and rolling (which is optimal for sketching) and the Chemical Brothers were beating in my ears.

My idea was to explore the contrasts (the fragile beautiful girl against the colossal beast; warm (fire) vs cool (water); humans vs gods).

So far design and the layout are just plain classical, but that seems appropriate for the mythological subject. I wish I could find a way to push it a little further, though.

I'm thinking in a big orange sunset for the background, and I'm changing the "dignified" pose for the "defeated" pose.

MasterTroglodyte
June 16th, 2010, 09:49 AM
MasterTroglodyte Looking good! Nice perspective. I'd add more space to the bottom of the canvas so her feet are not chopped off-it's really awkward right now.

Thanks, Sakuranym! I do that waaaay too often. I'll hopefully have time to work on this once I'm finished moving... I'm excited to see how everyone's pieces develop!

DIMAGYAN, I love her expression! And I think the viewpoint is also unique. I only wish there was a way to make the positioning more dynamic/energetic. Maybe altering her stance a little. Ah well, I'm probably splitting hairs.

Rusty
June 16th, 2010, 10:16 AM
Still a way to go yet, just about to start painting Andromeda.

Pinback quite a unique style you got there mate really liking those colors, be interesting to see how that one turns out!

~Jase

dashinvaine
June 16th, 2010, 10:52 AM
I'm coming to this rather late in the game, but have made a start. It's touch and go as to whether I will finish it in time. But it's a subject I was planning on tackling some day anyway so I thought I'd contribute... I'm also in the mood to get the oils out for a change. More in the mood for that than tablet grinding anyway.

Pose based on http://www.dashinvaine.deviantart.com/favourites/#/d1tmqe5
(upper body anyway).

jim12341234
June 16th, 2010, 12:58 PM
staticpen: it looks too close to this-


http://www.awn.com/files/imagepicker/1/expose01_Expose1-cvr.gif
http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/5d416db00586f448d9e2a65b270415396g.jpg

LeoListens
June 16th, 2010, 01:16 PM
Rusty, your rendering is quite impressive!

I don't quite get the big eye between those small reptile eyes. Personally, I would get rid of one of them (the central eye or the pair). So far, I found this link about reptile eyes: http://www.anapsid.org/sight.html

It would be great to find some document about the different kind of eyes (diurnal, nocturnal, amphibious, etc.). It's amazing how the environment and the behavior of the creatures affect the size, shape and configuration of their eyes (for example, it seems that hunters have frontally placed eyes while preys usually have laterally placed eyes).

Sentinel.
June 16th, 2010, 01:21 PM
@ jim12341234: While it may be similar, I disagree that it looks too close to the Expose image. There's enough that's different and solid anatomy in Staticpen's image that would make me doubt that he referenced this image directly.

And no disrespect intended, but your user name, join date and the fact that you only have one post makes me suspicious that this is a duplicate account. If that's the case and you think that Staticpen is copying the image, at least post under your own user name.

Smolin
June 16th, 2010, 01:52 PM
Here's my (overworked) preliminary sketch. I feel like a tool throwing my work in here, but as Bill Cosby used to say on Fat Albert, "If you're not careful, you might learn somethin'." So any advice would be welcome!

goldilockz
June 16th, 2010, 02:39 PM
@ jim12341234: While it may be similar, I disagree that it looks too close to the Expose image. There's enough that's different and solid anatomy in Staticpen's image that would make me doubt that he referenced this image directly.

And no disrespect intended, but your user name, join date and the fact that you only have one post makes me suspicious that this is a duplicate account. If that's the case and you think that Staticpen is copying the image, at least post under your own user name.

I agree. Don't be a creeper.

Jasper_
June 16th, 2010, 03:19 PM
Rusty - Really nice classic feel to your image, can't wait to see it finished.

DIMAGYAN - Love the idea and the look on her face, great emotion coming from the image.

Sorry I don't have time for more comments or didn't post a WIP, I don't have anything yet! But I feel like I need to take part in this, just gotta finished up obligatory freelance stuff first. Hopefully post some crits and more comments when I get an image to show.

jim12341234
June 16th, 2010, 03:42 PM
I didn't have an account because, i don't go to this web site that much, i just merely look around and read some stuff occasionally. I'm a 3D artist,and I was just stating that it looks a like a well know 3d art piece. and it would not let me post if i didn't have an account, i also did not feel like making an elaborate account info/set up for 1 post.

if a sculptor is making an abstract piece of work and didn't notice that it looks like genitals, but everyone else saw that then, its a problem. further more i was just stating that it looked like that piece of work, (i didn't say that they straight up coped it) that's one of the reasons why i posted it up in this thread. a thread of wips, so if they feel like changing it they can before putting that much time into it. and that's another reason why you do lots of thumbnails because the first few ideas are typically stereotypical or of other artwork that's float around in your head.

and if I'm out of place than tell me.

danlambert
June 16th, 2010, 03:42 PM
Still a way to go yet, just about to start painting Andromeda.

Pinback quite a unique style you got there mate really liking those colors, be interesting to see how that one turns out!

~Jase

Dude...You're killing me!! That is awesome man, it's good compositionally, has a great value pattern and I really like the colour palette. Leads the eye around well also.
I surrender :bow: haha

alexson
June 16th, 2010, 03:51 PM
Great fun to see everyones progress! And thanks to everyone that gave me feedback on my picture.
Here is a update on mine, still a million things to do. I had problems with her face as I always do. The light on her face doesn't really make sense at the moment either.

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Sentinel.
June 16th, 2010, 04:13 PM
@ jim12341234: I see, please forgive me. I work at night and haven't slept all day, so apologies that I misread the intent of your post, and if I was unduly terse in my response to you. :)

Pixeltuner
June 16th, 2010, 04:38 PM
Yay, my Cintiq arrived today :) This is the first 'painting' on it. Takes some getting used to but it's great fun and really intuitive.

razwit
June 16th, 2010, 04:56 PM
here's the two outfits I have so far:
http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy111/razwit_bucket/AndromedaVersion1.jpg
I'm not super happy about the originality but I think it looks a little better than version two.
http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy111/razwit_bucket/AndromedaVersion2.jpg

I would love to go scifi with this, but I don't know if I could make it fit the scene.

Thoughts?

staticpen
June 16th, 2010, 05:14 PM
Thanks everyone~

SCF - Way to go! Looking great. :) The floating hair is so well done.

Troglodyte - As you can see from the last sketch post, the forearm had been selected and moved a little bit somehow (I draw different body parts on different layers). I've fixed it below. Good eyes, and thanks! As far as yours, I would agree including the feet in the frame. But as it looks, it seems the rock she's chained to is curved and above her head - why not pull back the frame, extend the rock structure further left and show the whole curving rock, allowing it to frame Andromeda and/or the Leviathan?

Dimagyan - Nice! That's a very good idea. Looks like you're executing it well, too. Can't wait to see more!

Rusty - That looks really good so far. Well done. :) I have to agree, though, that I'm not focusing on the big eyeball right now. In one of the sketches previously I was drawn to it more than the other two, but as it's painted in the most recent WIP I look at the smaller eyes. Not sure what your goal is regarding them, though.

alexson - Great detail coming in! Keep it up.

Again, to anyone else, the images are not all loading up for me. Sorry!


Regarding the Exposé:

To anyone who is interested or needs to know if I'm breaking the rules, I did not copy or reference the Exposé image in any way. I'm not even sure if I've ever seen it before. Also, when viewed at the proper crop, and with this coloring style and palette, I think the differences between the two images are plenty.

With that said, here's a rough idea for the colors and feel.

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/167/f/5/CHOW201_staticpen_wip4_by_static_pen.png

drobyazko
June 16th, 2010, 05:37 PM
here's what i have so far, just a quick thing i did last night at midnightish. the dress is going to be a much lighter color, like a super light blue. does anyone know any good tutorials for wave or rock painting in photoshop? (btw, just in case, some of CA pages are blocked by my computer so i can't see all of them..)

JanJager
June 16th, 2010, 06:13 PM
Some great entries so far.

razwit
June 16th, 2010, 06:31 PM
JanJager: Great so far! don't forget the sea monster.

fdisk
June 16th, 2010, 06:50 PM
Yay, my Cintiq arrived today :) This is the first 'painting' on it. Takes some getting used to but it's great fun and really intuitive.

It's going to take you a week or two to get used to it but once you do you won't be able to live without it.

Nev87
June 16th, 2010, 07:16 PM
ooooo its my first WIP post >.> exciting day for me

i hope im doing this right.

she is chained at the wrists and shes tugging at it as the sea monster approaches her from behind. im a slow worker, but hopefully i can get my first chow done and under my belt :D

mmmmmn chow its whats for dinner ^^

Smolin
June 16th, 2010, 10:36 PM
Made some compositional & anatomical changes and started laying in some muddy colors.

Anyway, here are a few of my faves so far:


Pixeltuner: That's the freakiest sea monster ever. And yet it's beautifully painted. The textures are palpable (or is it "pulpo-ble"?)
Rusty: Awesome scene and lovely lighting.
LeoListens: I really dig the composition you sketched out. It's iconic.
Pinback: that is some trippy stuff. I like it a lot.
SCF: Excellent piece.
Ismo: I love the figure & composition on yours, too.
Telamon: Fantastic mood.
Sakuranym: I love the style on yours. Also really iconic.
Bnoch: That picture is so friggin' gorgeous.


There are more, but I'm getting exhausted from looking at all the mind-blowing art.

bahstudios
June 16th, 2010, 10:40 PM
Still slowly plugging through; took me most of the afternoon before I got the water to a point I liked, but I'm pleased with its progress.

http://www.bahstudios.com/aim/chow201_wip5.png

Ephelea
June 16th, 2010, 11:40 PM
@ jim12341234: While it may be similar, I disagree that it looks too close to the Expose image. There's enough that's different and solid anatomy in Staticpen's image that would make me doubt that he referenced this image directly.

And no disrespect intended, but your user name, join date and the fact that you only have one post makes me suspicious that this is a duplicate account. If that's the case and you think that Staticpen is copying the image, at least post under your own user name.

I agree, in terms of only one post. Be respectful, and voice your opinions on your own name.

In art, there will be many similarities, like in faces - there are only 6 million or some variations, and at some point, you'll start seeing repeated faces. In art, it's simply more common to find huge similarities. After all, we're humans - and as humans, we are going to think similarly.

And Static's piece is still strong, even if he did reference the Expose cover, it's able to stand on it's own.

Rhdnor
June 17th, 2010, 04:05 AM
Sorry guys, this is the last time I change my wip....I hope. I just wasn't satisfied with the last couple of them. Unfortunately my good intentions when out of the the window and she's generally clinging the one of the monsters archs, or loopy things whatever you call them.

Pixeltuner
June 17th, 2010, 05:59 AM
It's going to take you a week or two to get used to it but once you do you won't be able to live without it.

I'm afraid so, can't wait to get home and start painting again :D

ismo
June 17th, 2010, 06:32 AM
Here's what I have at this point.

Evil_comrad
June 17th, 2010, 08:16 AM
here's my 1st sketch.
I think i'l change here pose a bit cause now i see she's a bit to serious xD

http://i48.tinypic.com/qsumpy.jpg

posicharvey
June 17th, 2010, 09:09 AM
Painting frantically to get this done. Still not sure about the colors for the monster. Trying to get the atmospheric perspective right. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Evil_comrad
June 17th, 2010, 09:28 AM
added more detail.

http://i46.tinypic.com/33ej6gy.jpg

Nev87
June 17th, 2010, 10:39 AM
Pixeltuner: soooo jealous of your cintiq. lovin the concept. cant wait to see the end result
Razwit: i like the first outfit better. but the second outfit isnt bad. perhaps you could compromise on them by doing something more along the 2nd hugging her body, and then drape a shawl(sp?) around her in some way, in order to have a loser garment. idk it feels like you need some cloth moving with all that rushing water. And idk maybe its me but she feels like shes floating on the rock.
Staticpen: love the palette and the environment. cant wait to see the finished product :)
Drobyazko: like where its heading. for rocks and water I use alot of different brushes(whichever preloaded photoshop brush feels right) with staggering, size, and opacity jitter set.
JanJager: love how its painted. we gonna get to see a sea monster? :P
Smolin: Love where its headed. perhaps the sea monster could look more menacing? i know its all about the character, but other than the size im not finding it that scary that shes freaking out so much(which you've handled very well).
Bahstudios: Her legs don't feel right to me. HER left thigh appears much longer than it should to me. im not particularly good with perspective or anatomy, but even if it was right it doesn't feel like it. Cant wait to see when you add some depth :) love the idea of a brick of rock cracked some sea serpent skull.
RGeorge: love love love the colors! gogogo!
Ismo: good start. cant wait to see that finished monster and her reaction to said monster :)
Posicharvy: nice start. wish I could help with the atmospheric perspective, but still a relatively new concept for me. Looking forward to seeing this one done :)
Evil_comrad: She appears to be a cyclops, that is her eye should be shifted over your left a little. At the moment it is approaching the center of her face. Her pose isnt saying a whole lot about her character. there is a giant monster practically on top of her and she sits so passively on the rock? im not buying it. perhaps she could be crying? Otherwise i am very envious of your lines. mine are almost never crisp.

phew that took awhile. Heres my block in, i toned down my lines so I can see my shapes. Thinking that the tentacle around her waste is gonna change so that I can have that hard angle down off the rock without it feeling to forced.

Evil_comrad
June 17th, 2010, 11:07 AM
NEV87:

ur totally right, i already thought that she was a bit to passive, but tx for telling me that the eye is placed wrong,
i'l be sure to fix those problems in my next post :D

Smolin
June 17th, 2010, 11:33 AM
Posicharvey: This is looking great already. I'd recommend adding some more splash to the breaking waves, particularly around the monster. About the chains:when I first glanced at the image, I thought she was using a walker. :\ I'd suggest angling the chains out or in, or making them loop or sag somehow.

stoph
June 17th, 2010, 11:36 AM
my entry so far. as usual I always come into these things late. got a lot planned for this, not gonna give too much away just yet :P

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ianthegeek
June 17th, 2010, 12:54 PM
Here's where I'm at. I'm really trying to push the perspective just for the darn hell of it on this one. I want to see If I can pull it off. Any advice would be very much appreciated.
And high five to the new mods.

vineris
June 17th, 2010, 01:33 PM
Messing around with colours and textures now.

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Somewhere along the line I forgot to ink the chains, will have to re-do those.

I'll try to get to some crits after lunch!

Ishren
June 17th, 2010, 02:18 PM
Close to finished maybe. Not sure what else I should do. Critique welcome. :)

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e339/Mioshi/andromeda3-3.jpg

rumpenstiltzkin
June 17th, 2010, 02:44 PM
so much goodness, makes me wanna change all the time, but after a bit more sketching i think ill stick with one of my 2 first ones...
trying to figure out a way to put in the monster, dont want to much of it, wanna focus more on adromeda :)

Evil_comrad
June 17th, 2010, 02:48 PM
testing out the colors now.

http://i50.tinypic.com/1zd8288.jpg

PokketMowse
June 17th, 2010, 03:03 PM
This is my first attempt here at conceptart.org but I'm hoping to participate more from here on in. I can't shake the feeling that mine is a bit corny, but then I remember that the whole story of Andromeda basically seems to be so ancient artists could make pretty lady pin-up art. :dur:

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/1213/andromedasketch.jpg

drobyazko
June 17th, 2010, 03:23 PM
made the dress much lighter and am working on getting the ocean and waves rightish..also not sure if i want to keep that cloud there or take it out...

Evil_comrad
June 17th, 2010, 03:41 PM
I decided to make a new one, i didnt like my old one that much, xD

here it is :D

http://i49.tinypic.com/wbzcpt.jpg

JanJager
June 17th, 2010, 03:53 PM
JanJager: Great so far! don't forget the sea monster.

Thanks
I like the action in your painting, For me I think It 's enough to just chain the poor girl on a windy rock.

Pixeltuner
June 17th, 2010, 04:04 PM
update :) big ol' fun with teh paintz.

bahstudios
June 17th, 2010, 04:27 PM
@Nev87: I can understand her legs feeling weird to you, but they're like that in my pose reference - including the long thigh. Hopefully refining the shading has helped some, though. And I'm glad you like the concept -thank you for your input. :)

@stoph: Oh, I really like her head barely above the water! Adds some emotional tension. :D

More progress. I'm not sure where I want to go from here; I'm not sure if I want to keep the current color scheme, or alter the tones a bit to evoke more emotional response. Hm. Thoughts?

http://www.bahstudios.com/aim/chow201_wip7.png

Hint of Perseus in the corner with his shadow. I decided to go with the original "borrowed Hermes' winged shoes" approach than the later "riding on Pegasus" adaption.

vineris
June 17th, 2010, 04:45 PM
Awright. Crit time!

LadyLooLauren - I liked the very first sketch you did. Not sure about the pencil one, it needs better anatomy. The arch might work but looks a bit too... soft? It needs more of a rocky look to it.
Missile - love the concept. Looking forward to seeing where it goes.
saintsaber - I think I liked the girl's pose in the first sketch better, although the first monster wasn't as good.
danlambert - the body looks nice and the moon's dramatic, but it seems generic overall.
SCF - love the monster. I think you could have pushed Andromeda's pose some more. She has a floaty quality but is almost too calm considering.
Ephelea - I thought the middle composition from the initial sketches was the strongest one. Not sure that looking pensive suits Andromeda. Antdromeda has potential!
Refschaufscheik - good start
alexson - nice composition, the lower body looks great, but there's something about her arms and waist that doesn't look right.
Sakuranym - cuteness! It may be just the way that the various elements cover her up, but some parts of the body don't look quite right.
Sentinel - great emotion! Nice colours and lighting as well.
gpalmer - try to avoid straight-on depictions of monsters. It usually flattens them out and tends to make them look comical. It doesn't even seem like it's looking at the victim.
courtyard - I like her Greek-style hairdo and the playful twist on the myth. The colours have a nice painterly look but are just a little on the flat side. There's a tangent between the rock and ruined temple in the background.
fdisk - I like the updated pose better than the first sketch. Nice dramatic angle. I like the African design of the girl. Watch those feet! They look big, blocky and awkward.
Lodin - has a nice, classy and formal feel to it. I like it.
rgeorge - I like the idea of a fight scene. It needs more reference, though. The poses just don't seem very believable.
JanJager - Some nice compositions here. I particularly liked the first and last, but there's something charming about the forlorn figure standing in the sand.
matt kohr - interesting pose, good monster, but there's something about her neck and head that make her look like a chicken. I think it's the elongated neck and large head.
pixel cheetah - all of these look a bit too posed and lackadaisical. Most of Frazetta's pics with the arched-back sexy poses worked because he didn't use those poses to illustrate danger. In the illustrations where there was danger there was sexiness but also a feeling of action or tension. You can afford to pose when you're hanging out with your giant jungle cat, not when an enormous snake is about to eat you.
Irrlaeufer - nice colours. The anatomy could use some work, she looks very Barbie-dollish.
Jager - a bit too early to say much about this. Not a bad start.
staticpen - you're going in the next batch of crits. Sorry!
Rusty - great start! I bet this is going to look awesome.
Elina - not a bad start. That first pic might turn into something with a nice dreamy quality to it.
koh - I like the emotion in her face. That breast doesn't really look natural, though.
blau - nice to see a more interesting angle on things.
jpedro - neat sketches. I like the way you use negative space.
Lady Chestnut - aww! The monster is so cute! I love him! I think Andromeda either needs longer arms or a chubbier body and shorter legs, though. Right now she looks a bit too skinny for her head.
ninyanernel - I like the arched back and the rocks, but her lower body seems kinda blobby and she's got balloon thighs.
Vaejoun - I like the second composition. I'd stretch that canvas up a bit more, I think it might be slightly better if the monster's head spines weren't cut off. I'm not entirely sure about that, though.
Razwit - the pose seems awkward, and the straight-on monster view flattens it out and makes it seem more like a caricature than a monster.
JR Mcgee - interesting take with that first sketch. Much more interesting than waify waif in the second. Watch the look of the cloth, even floaty transluscent cloth folds fairly sharply and doesn't bubble around the shoulders.
Bnoch - lovely!
telamon - her waist seems ridiculously high and her torso small compared to her head and breasts.

All right, that takes me to the end of... page 3? Good gravies, there's a lot of entries this round.

Time to get back to work, will continue with crit tomorrow. Sorry if I missed anyone!

Ephelea
June 17th, 2010, 04:51 PM
I don't have enough time to make an entire revision to this, so unfortunately, I'm stuck with what I have. Have to work on my finals too. lol.

dashinvaine
June 17th, 2010, 04:58 PM
Another wip...

Carnifex
June 17th, 2010, 08:01 PM
a-ha! obviously inspiration always has to strike last minute.
ok,two days to go yet.
edit: oh yeah,comments welcome.

razwit
June 17th, 2010, 09:02 PM
I'm thinking this is the final. I think the pose in the WIP images I was showing was looking a little awkward because a) her left wrist was misplaced, her left hand was too long and darkly shaded. in addition, the rock had no highlights on the front side, giving the appearance that it was slanted or that there was nowhere to sit flat, which she's clearly doing. Thanks for the comments, and if you have any more they'd be greatly appreciated.

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy111/razwit_bucket/CHOW201_Razwit.jpg
Almost forgot about the tattoos. Both of the costumes I showed in my WIPs before were lacking something, and while I liked the one I went with better, I felt it did an injustice to character design. So, it was either jewelry, which I couldn't really justify given her situation, or tattoos which worked in the situation and were simply more a part of her than any article of clothing could be.

k that's all

Rhdnor
June 17th, 2010, 10:10 PM
update :) big ol' fun with teh paintz.

The colours are LUMINOUS. Absolutely GORGEOUS.

Felix105
June 18th, 2010, 12:02 AM
Hey, I am new to Concept Art and already love the community in this website. I know it's REALLY late in the game to post anything new for this contest, but here is my work in progress for Andromeda. I wanted to really show her in her worst moment before the beast swallows her up, cause if something that big and scary was about to eat me, I probably would act exactly like her trying to pull out of her chains. Critiques would be helpful and hopefully I can finish this before the deadline. Thanks!

posicharvey
June 18th, 2010, 03:03 AM
Was beginning to hate my Andromeda, so erased her and started over(thanks goodness for layers) No more walker (thanks, I didn't see that before). I still need to re-work the arms and hem of the dress. Do you think that the new color treatment for the monster is any better?
Thanks for everyones comments.

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rumpenstiltzkin
June 18th, 2010, 03:10 AM
Pixeltuner: oboy...looks really good so far, love the colors!
dashinvaine: thats some beautiful painting :)
Carnifex: really nice, i enjoy the colors alot!

D.Labruyere
June 18th, 2010, 04:40 AM
thought I'd join in once aswell :)

my wip so far:

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Evil_comrad
June 18th, 2010, 05:30 AM
I added the basic colors to it.

http://i50.tinypic.com/j6045f.jpg

AhChu
June 18th, 2010, 05:43 AM
okay, here is an update..I'm putting off doing her head coz I'm a wuss :P I have to reshape the chest as if flattened it..time to start practicing heads

PIXELTUNER Man your stuff always looks so cool..love it.

CARNIFEX "Andromeda look out behind you!"

Evil_comrad
June 18th, 2010, 07:42 AM
i almost worked out the girl. :D

http://i49.tinypic.com/mkd7it.jpg

Evil_comrad
June 18th, 2010, 09:19 AM
here's a little more detail.

http://i50.tinypic.com/28rfurn.jpg

Evil_comrad
June 18th, 2010, 10:21 AM
http://i46.tinypic.com/2dvs7fb.jpg

JR McGee
June 18th, 2010, 11:23 AM
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/169/2/7/andromeda_chow201_wip_by_JR_McGee.jpg

APW
June 18th, 2010, 12:31 PM
What does Final Burning mean?

Pinback
June 18th, 2010, 12:48 PM
APW: Final Burning is where you post your final finished image for CHOW, be sure to double check the requirements for this.

I'm almost there myself.

Evil_comrad
June 18th, 2010, 01:15 PM
http://i47.tinypic.com/1pea15.jpg

Pinback
June 18th, 2010, 02:27 PM
Thanks
I like the action in your painting, For me I think It 's enough to just chain the poor girl on a windy rock.

Careful dude, the brief is pretty specific about this!

'you will have to include the seamonster in some way.' -Arthemis IX, on the brief for this CHOW

harris-ejaz
June 18th, 2010, 04:26 PM
i might throw my hat in. been a while.

rumpenstiltzkin
June 18th, 2010, 07:00 PM
going slowly for me, had to take break to go out and see rammstein tonight! damn theyre awesome live :D

hrm, anyways, a little progress wip, playing a bit with her hair and jewelry
im wondering if her feets is to big, hmm...

Jager
June 18th, 2010, 09:08 PM
some update
http://www.torjager.se/temp/gf/chow201-10.jpg

Pixeltuner Awesome as always! love the cave setting and the back lightning, the calm water makes it even creepier :)
harris-ejaz cool picture, I want to see more of the monster, but I’m sure its coming :)
rumpenstiltzkin very strong sketch, can’t wait to see it finished. I would give her a bit smaller shoe size, even though they are closer to the viewer.

Rhdnor
June 18th, 2010, 09:35 PM
Hi, my monster still needs to be detailed and andromeda too. I need to know if I the tail at the left end is unnecessary and compositionally I can get rid of it by tightening the frame (cutting off the left side).

D.Labruyere
June 18th, 2010, 09:43 PM
update:

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DrewS
June 18th, 2010, 10:13 PM
Hey, folks. I'm new around here so I figured I'd jump in on this challenge. I'm really enjoying all the work you guys are posting. Sorry I waited so late to post a WIP.

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drobyazko
June 18th, 2010, 10:43 PM
i'm aboutish done, will maybe work on some things here and there. crits welcome.

KatieM
June 18th, 2010, 10:46 PM
Hi everyone! I've always loved to watch CHOW but I've never quite had the time/courage to try participating - but not anymore! I'm probably not going to be able to finish this, but we'll see :) Here's my sketch (she's reaching up to an invisible Perseus and I'll add the monster/water in later. Hopefully the perspective isn't too wonky...):

Smolin
June 18th, 2010, 10:59 PM
More rendering and color. And fatigue...oh, the fatigue! :dead: I can't really see this anymore, so any critique would certainly be appreciated.

Soupandbutter
June 19th, 2010, 02:05 AM
started late, but here is my go.

WIP:

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Vaejoun
June 19th, 2010, 03:00 AM
Sadly, I had not enough time or willpower to work on it more.
The original didnt really work, so I made a lot of paint overs and came out with this piece just a moment ago. Even though I wont make it in time for the deadline I will keep working on this one. the light, the different textures and the human body/skin are so difficult.

Its still bothering me, that I dont really have a feeling for color in paintings. Its more like I see "hey, now it looks good" But I cant directly control it to get there.

Rusty
June 19th, 2010, 03:49 AM
Didn't have a lot of time to work on this today but free tomorrow to bring this one home. I'm especially paying for not using any reference for Andromeda because she's proving to be a real damn b*tch to paint! heh! step forward...step back...step forward...etc. Some Art Nouveau style text is gonna fill that blank bottom left space, anyone got any suggestions? otherwise i was just gonna put "Andromeda" yes fcukin original i know, heh!

dashinvaine Nice! no one can really argue that a week is to short to bust out an oil painting after seeing yours, well done man :)

Carnifex Looking real sweet man, i reckon you could blend the monster back a few more notches into the dark background, the tip of the nose and maybe a tiny glint of the eye would be more than enough imo, he's a bit to visible atm.

Some great looking work being produced, well done everyone!

~Jase

[EDIT] I chickened out and changed Andromeda's head to a position i can handle, old one although sexier was a nightmare to get looking right because of the subtle foreshortening.

stoph
June 19th, 2010, 04:35 AM
Rusty, maybe you could take a line from some prose on the original story? you could even go as far as to make it a really nice typography piece. there's a great font that would work called Eccentric Standard, should be able to find it on most font sites.

here's mine so far. wish I had started sooner, but thankfully have cleared most of my weekend to finish it. still gotta work on Andromeda, her rock, chains, add the monster in the BG, etc etc etc. but I should hopefully get to colour this round.

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Carnifex
June 19th, 2010, 06:51 AM
rgeorge - i'd have the tail just bend towards her,that leads the eye better. right now it's guiding our view outside of frame,and if you just crop it,it becomes unbalanced.
rusty - thanks! i'll have to check on that. the very first plan was to only have andromeda sitting alone,the weight of the cave,the loneliness and the sun passing by,all of this weighing down on her. she's alone with her thoughts and fears.

buffichar
June 19th, 2010, 07:00 AM
Not that I think I can make it to Final burning thread but I've been trying for ages to upload the sketches. Dunno what I will do with the background but it was fun getting this face. Awh her widdle face looks so scared

stoph
June 19th, 2010, 11:38 AM
an update before I go to bed. just some minor texturing on the rocks, finish her foot, some bubbles and seaweed. then its on to some colour (maybe..)

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Pixeltuner
June 19th, 2010, 03:52 PM
Just about done I think. Was mostly a testcase for my Cintiq so the drawing isn't all that (especialy the legs), but all in all I'm pretty satisfied.

staticpen
June 19th, 2010, 04:03 PM
Hi, my monster still needs to be detailed and andromeda too. I need to know if I the tail at the left end is unnecessary and compositionally I can get rid of it by tightening the frame (cutting off the left side).

Nice! I think the tentacle on the left will be fine if you repaint the top to come back into the painting. Right now it leads the eye out and doesn't keep the viewer inside the image. Keep it up!

EDIT: Didn't see carnifex already answered your question with the same answer. But I guess that makes two independent opinions of the same idea. :)

stoph - great idea! Pretty intense, man.

pixeltuner - The lighting and color selection is quite good, and your idea is very creative. kudos!

soupandbutter - love the angle! great job and good luck. :)

rusty - awww, that's too bad with the face! why not just shoot a photo of yourself and adjust the features? either way, your entry is very strong. great job!

vaejoun - it might be worth it to try starting with a drawing instead of shapes. some people just work better the other way. but in the case of coloring over a greyscale image, at the very least, you can submit a b&w painting and totally be within the rules if you don't get the colors worked out in time.

Lady Chestnut
June 19th, 2010, 04:57 PM
Hmm, I got distracted at the middle of the week, so I don't think I'll be able to make it to the final burning. Meh, doesn't care, as long as I finish the pic!
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Finished the lines and added the flat colours. The moon initially seemed a good idea, but I think I'll change it to daylight, because if I don't do so, Andromeda will be on the cast shadow of the rock, very little visible... Do you think I'm doing right?

(sorry, no crits for now, I'm too tired. I'll put them later!)

KatieM
June 19th, 2010, 05:33 PM
Inked it and added some vague doodles that could be waves/monsters.
Opinions?

buffichar
June 19th, 2010, 05:55 PM
Inked it and added some vague doodles that could be waves/monsters.
Opinions? i was thinking the monster was breaking through the waves and whoosh perseus grabs her. My opinion though

D.Labruyere
June 19th, 2010, 07:31 PM
And another step.

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Rob!T
June 19th, 2010, 07:55 PM
another late entry :S

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fdisk
June 19th, 2010, 10:44 PM
Stoph, that is phenomenal brother! I really hope you have time to color it!

Sidharth Chaturvedi
June 19th, 2010, 11:31 PM
Sup all! Had a hectic week, so I'm cutting it really close with this one- been doing sketches all week, but could only start the painting today. Hopefully I'll get it done in time. The values and colors all look weird because I'm working on unprimed masonite, so everything's sunken it. Should look a little better when I oil it out tomorrow (I hope).

Rusty and PixelTurner, those are looking friggin' awesome!

http://conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1002753&stc=1&d=1277008037
http://conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1002754&stc=1&d=1277008061

daestwen
June 20th, 2010, 08:37 AM
PLEASE REMEMBER THE NEW DEADLINE!

Sunday (Today) 9:00 PM (GMT+1)

This means, for those of you on EST, it's 3 pm this afternoon, or in about 5 hours.

IceMoon and ArthemisIX are at MADE so I'll be doing the poll today, so it might be a bit late, but don't bank on it. If the deadline comes up , post your stuff. If you don't see me close the thread right away, then you can keep working on it a bit and replace the old version with the new one when I close the poll.

I'll try not to be too late.

Carnifex
June 20th, 2010, 12:21 PM
rusty,i hope that you'll change it back at some point in the future (when you have more time to work that out maybe?). still looking good,just not as sexy.

only did some minor updates,gonna call it final.

ArtByManon
June 20th, 2010, 03:20 PM
CANNOT believe i missed this one!!! I have already done a painting of this, but previously, so would'nt enter it of course! I've been away so have missed the opportunity - BOOOO!!!! now to peruse all the lovely images you guys have done!!