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May 9th, 2010, 09:57 AM
Topic: Concept Bike 2017
Background: An automotive related topic for this weeks' IDW! Your challenge for this week is to come up with a concept motorcycle for the year 2017. Just like in the car industry, it is a tradition for motorcycle companies to present their vision of future bikes in the form of concept bikes. The bike you are designing be your vision of what motorcycles are going to look like in 2017.
Please keep a few aspects in mind when designing your bike though! It is tempting to put the biggest engine in the fastest shape you can imagine, but just like in the car industry themes like green energy, transportation in cities and safety are hot issues too.
There are a few restrictions too this round: the format of your final entry is an orthographic side-view of your concept bike. You are allowed to include other views too if you like, but bike concepts are usually made in side-views to start with.
Secondly, include a human figure on your bike! You can do this either in your main render or in a small insert if you like, but bikes are designed to look good with or without a rider (as it is an intergral part of the bikes looks when it's being driven). Feel free to design the riders outfit too while you're at it, but you can also leave it a simplyfied human silhouette if you wish.
1. Design and draw a motorcycle concept for the year 2017!
2. Your final entry should be an orthographic side-view, and include a human figure on the bike somewhere!
3. That's it... now draw!
Deadline: Saturday, May 15
Rounds are usually closed around noon on Sunday (GMT +2 - Amsterdam time)
May 9th, 2010, 02:59 PM
A recumbent motorcycle for 2017! That's apparently what this is.
Also, hello, all. Now that it's summer, I'm sure I'll be seeing all you all around quite a bit.
May 10th, 2010, 03:44 AM
For people curious about electric bike designs.
May 10th, 2010, 09:59 AM
Well since it's a 'concept' bike, I'm making mine a lot sexier than production models will ever be. But that's the nature of concept cars and bikes anyhow. What I'm going for is 'electric is sexy'. It's kind of an attempt to say, just because it's electric doesn't mean it has to be slower or unattractive. As for the getting it to work, well that's for the engineers to figure out...
Rough idea, just playing with shapes really. I have about 30 thumbs on a steno pad. so I've been doing a lot of mixing and matching. The general shape I think i'm going with (at least from the side view) is a water droplet with a cut off tail, which is a very fast shape aerodynamically.
Edit (blueish one): I was thinking, why am i making it rear wheel drive? With electric I'm thinking it's be relatively doable to do front wheel, so I've altered the shape to give it more of a 'guts are in the front' feeling. At this point the back of the bike and the passengers are basically being pulled around by the front part...
May 10th, 2010, 12:57 PM
What I am going to do with this is push an angle of subtraction and simplification, reducing the number of parts as massively as possible to push the visual minimalism that the very first motorbikes had, they were after all bikes with a motor on them. XD
I have a fairly solid idea in my head of where I want to go with it visually, and explored that with some silhouette thumbnails.
Using orbital wheels with motors for drive and turning internal to the rim, reducing suspension to a no moving parts system based on increasing flexibility in the reduction of thickness of a material, all the concepts would feature the bikes displays all being internal to the helmet, and in one or two easy to identify cases the bikes controls would be internal to the gloves and activated via pressure from the thighs and feet.
Looking forward to turning out a final.
May 10th, 2010, 01:12 PM
Please keep in mind that the front wheel on a bike is there for steering ;) All three entries so far will probably have some issues in that department...
May 10th, 2010, 01:39 PM
Yes, I can see how turning would be a convenient feature...LOL. I have now incorporated articulation points in my design.
I also dropped the hub-less rim look as early views from other angles didn't look good, and I had some concerns about drag from the vacuum that would form in the center of the front wheel.
I'm also seriously considering turning my design into a trike w/ two wheels in the front. Would that be alright or are we sticking strictly to two wheelers?
May 10th, 2010, 01:52 PM
All three entries so far will probably have some issues in that department...
You assume too much I think.
Actually I can be less vague than that.
I can tell you that it has a tighter turning circle than any bike currently on the road.
May 10th, 2010, 02:11 PM
Evamonkeyn2: Hehe fair enough, I'll wait and see then shall I? ;)
May 10th, 2010, 02:14 PM
I have a question for you. Expect a pm.
May 10th, 2010, 05:21 PM
Don't mind me just another revision on the basic idea...If when I come back to it in a hour or so I don't have any major reservations I guess I can start in on the actual image and jot just my scraggly color sketch.
May 10th, 2010, 06:44 PM
May 10th, 2010, 06:46 PM
May 10th, 2010, 07:55 PM
What, you mean to say they do have to have some control over where the bike goes?
...I went ahead and added in a pivot point and threw some colors around.
May 11th, 2010, 12:25 AM
the mass of the bike in the front looks cool Truepinkas,
I love all things with an engine. I've got to get into this one.
these are from my sketch book, just doodling. the first one is a sports bike, jet bike thing, yeah doesn't make since for the year 2017, but i'll show anyways :) the second one is more of a cruiser.
May 11th, 2010, 01:05 AM
With or without the windshield. I think it looks better without, but it can be a useful thing to have.
May 11th, 2010, 01:24 AM
Sholly - the silhouette is more dynamic without the windshield. but with the windshield it feels more solid. i think it pulls the design together.
May 11th, 2010, 05:42 AM
Basic concept steering system diagrams.
May 11th, 2010, 11:51 AM
Great stuff so far! I am liking the side view ortho format for this round, should level out the playing field a bit too.
See you later this week!
May 11th, 2010, 01:06 PM
Truepinkas - I like the scraggly color sketch! But, I guess for a final it would need a bit more revision. The orange bike is looking good, so far. The really pale silver on the back wheel might need to appear elsewhere on the bike, 'cause as is it stands out a lot.
evamonkeyn2 - The silhouettes are sweet. They remind me of some sort of steam punkian, steam-powered machine things that do something.
NPlaxco - The black and white sketches have a lot of energy and shape to them -- can't wait to see the finals of that.
Struve - Thanks for the feedback! I really like the design for the jetbike, even if it wouldn't be possible in 2017. The one-wheelness is neat, even if that one-wheel would get burned out pretty quick with a jetbike. I guess they'd have better technology for wheels, though, if they have it for jetbikes, eh?
May 11th, 2010, 02:21 PM
my first sketch
May 11th, 2010, 02:48 PM
i think the first one feels a bit to stretched out. i have started to go more for the mtb stance rather than stupidly aerodynamic, more agressive. prehaps an of road design.
May 11th, 2010, 02:49 PM
Honing the lines and colour palette.
I want to go with bright and fun, I want this to be a bike for people who would not currently consider buying one.
May 11th, 2010, 03:45 PM
Hello people, iŽll try to present something for this IDW, i like the subject:)
This are first tests.
I still have to simplify a lot, it seems very futuristic for 2017. Have to work in the axis too.
evamonkeyn2, cool and funny design, i like it!
May 11th, 2010, 06:32 PM
HereŽs my wip, maby not overly futuristic but it is a fair idea of what I think a motorbike will look like. Comments and crits are more then welcomed.
The bike is a electric powered bike, with a kind of dynamo thing on the frontwheel, transfering and using some of the movment energy back in to batterypower.. The fueltank is a cargobox for storage, since any addon bags and such disturbs the weight ratio of the bike and make it unbalanced.
May 11th, 2010, 08:55 PM
lots of really slick designs in here, i cant wait to see some finished works! :D
May 11th, 2010, 09:06 PM
sweet topic! i've always liked the look of sports bike so that's what i'm going to design
been doing some exploration...copic marker first cause it's quicker then went into photoshop and tweaked out some tighter silhouettes and shapes
my idea is that although 7 years is a long time i don't believe motorcycle technology will advance to the point where the overall proportions and shapes of sports bikes will change all that much so i'm keeping it within the same type of look as the current sports bikes we have now...just a little more "concept-y"
anyways here's what i've got so far...i'm liking c, d, and e
time to do make the line art...this is gonna suck...
May 11th, 2010, 09:20 PM
Did a cleaned up blank version of mine. Pretty sure this is my final design. I had to raise the seat and make it a single rider after a friend of mine pointed out how HUGE my bike was compared to the people, and the fact that the driver couldn't see over the front of the bike very well.
I'm going for the race/sport bike look, so huge wasn't an ideal adjective...
I re-branded my bike as 'Luna' after a buddy of mine's dog who's kidneys aren't doing to well right now...
May 11th, 2010, 09:44 PM
FREE OPINIONS AND CRITIQUES, GET THEM WHILE THEY'RE HOT!!!
Sholly: Very fun and chopper-esque. I don't personally like the wind shield, but without it I'm not sure what sets this apart from current custom bikes. Try to push it a bit further, I think you'll be pleased with what you find.
evamonkeyn2: Your designs are screaming of urban/suburban eco-enthused young professionals. I think I know several people who'd buy something like that right now if it was on the market. For my personal taste though I feel unsettled when thinking about perching atop such a thing.
NPlaxco: You got some neat ones in your second post, I look forward to seeing something more fleshed out.
Struve: I like the jet bikes, even if they aren't really good for this IDW. The chopper feels very bio mechanical presently, and somehow reminds me of a whale...
skyline: interesting starts. The yellow really grabs my eye on that first one. With both of yours though I'm left wondering, are they driving it, or holding on for dear life. But then again, maybe that's part of the appeal. :)
Ricardo Robles: Enclosed designs eh? Tough subject matter, look forward to more fleshed out stuff.
Benza: It has a very retro look to it. Be careful that it doesn't look too much like a classic though. The detail on the front rim is nice, but try and pack a few more surprises in there for the viewers.
cjuzzz: A and B are VERY slick! Genuinely excited to see more.
May 11th, 2010, 10:25 PM
My first time doing any of the challenges, I decided I'd give it a shot finally.
May 12th, 2010, 05:03 AM
Further honing. Colour locked down.
May 12th, 2010, 05:36 PM
i am not great at getting stuff to look smooth, also i just realised i forgot about lights.
May 12th, 2010, 07:56 PM
New wip, Trying to give it a modern retro feel, since fashion and stuff tend to comeback in cycles. Please feel free to crit and comment.
May 12th, 2010, 09:39 PM
I'm having to do some minor re-design to work out a proper pivot point on my bike for turning. While the current one is aesthetically pleasing, the more I think about it, the more awkward it would be to ride.
Here are some descent Wikipedia articles if anyone else is struggling with similar issues.
May 13th, 2010, 01:39 AM
here's my lineart and final color choice before render
doesn't really feel like it's from 2017...probably 2012 or so...o wells i still like it plus my main focus will be to try rendering the different materials on the bike...this should be interesting...
May 13th, 2010, 03:32 AM
Trying something... errr... a little different. Fans are progressing quite rapidly in both power and efficiency. I am using a simple rotary fan which right now is used in home air purifiers and also in some special harrier-like jets of today. Very powerful.
I will go into more detail on steering and stabilization and what not in some 3/4's... but with two of these fans side by side it "may" be feasible. Also wings too so this puppy would totally fly :)
May 13th, 2010, 04:08 AM
here's my lineart and final color choice before render
doesn't really feel like it's from 2017...probably 2012 or so...o wells i still like it
I'd buy that in a heart beat.
May 13th, 2010, 06:51 AM
Really neat design cjuzzz. Although somehow, the color version reminds me of a pair of basketball shoes I once had.
mbetteker, that's an interesting shape. I don't get/see the whole bike concept yet, but you have peaked my curiosity.
May 13th, 2010, 08:00 AM
I based these eco friendly moto's on the shape of a killer while.
Layer one being vehicles with faster capabilities and shaped like a whale going through water
Layer two slower mo-ped type vehicle based on a swimming whale body shape for more casual driving
Layer three is based on the shape of a whale jumping from water, it is suppost to allow the driver to sit in and control the bike with a similar posture to a person riding a horse.
going to finalise later.
cjuzzz - MINT! I like it.
mbetteker - Great rendering, like the idea of common place monocycle too.
May 13th, 2010, 05:52 PM
Hi all, this is my first attempt at an activity like this, the theme is really cool and I hope i can make a something-similar-to-a-complete work for saturday.
Showing my first ideas, the bike I made is structured with 2 electric engines located inside the wheels, and an asymmetric & light structure for the mainframe. The wheels are complete with a suspension system for the "suspended masses" of the engines themselves (hope this kind of structure is plausible for a 2017 motorbike, I've looked a bit around the internet about that). the pseudo-final image should be the lower one.
Well, even If I cannot finish, hope to get some feedback hehe
By the way, Great works here so far, looking forward for the finals!
p.s. couldn't manage to attach the image within CA.org, the image won't show... i'll learn how to, just hope it's not a problem for now
May 13th, 2010, 06:48 PM
Final selection process of 7 visual solutions. Will crack out a proper illustration for final presentation.
May 13th, 2010, 10:49 PM
Here's mine so far, definitely no steering... I'll keep working on it.
May 13th, 2010, 11:52 PM
I come back to this thread to see some cool stuff brewing.
Iz got another sketch here.
May 14th, 2010, 06:35 AM
late entry...or somesuch.
May 14th, 2010, 06:36 AM
Great design, man1
May 14th, 2010, 06:12 PM
Finals thread is up, make sure to post your final entry in there before the deadline is up!
IDW #128: Concept Bike 2017 - Finals thread (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2741704)
May 15th, 2010, 08:46 AM
been neglecting mine past few days, I best get to work, i only got today left! I assume the cutoff time is same as last week?
May 15th, 2010, 09:35 AM
Truepinkas: Yep, around the same time as last week :)
May 15th, 2010, 09:42 AM
Thank you very much for the prompt reply, this is only my second IDW, and I've put a lot of effort into this one, and I'd hate to miss it :)
May 15th, 2010, 04:18 PM
Just a little heads up for everyone, currently CA.org is a bit buggy again. The attachment editor seems to act up a little especially, if anyone is having trouble with this let me know please. I might have to postpone the poll if it stays this way :(
May 15th, 2010, 07:37 PM
Well it SAYS I've uploaded it, but it won't display when I view the thread...
May 16th, 2010, 08:31 AM
The attachments seem to work for me, so I'll go ahead and close this round. The poll and next round will be up soon :)
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