GaBoArTpAgE/ JAN 14 voniix

[gaboartpage]

hola a todos !!!!

Sorry for the large images to the ones with low connection

Disease - Not practicing enough even when knowing you have to....
Treatment - Watch others do the right thing
Cure - Practice life drawing

I am still practizing but someday i will star life drawing , someday i hope .....
anyway thanks for the advice to the people who posted:
watch the tread:
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1746&highlight=gabriel

Here are some drawings that describe my current development:

First detail , then Form and now i am on depth and planes .........


http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/detail1.jpg
http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/detail2.jpg http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/carros.jpg

[gaboartpage]

la segunda continuacion

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/simple1.jpg
http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/simple2.jpg
http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/simple3.jpg

[gaboartpage]

ahora estoy en este punto

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/form-deep1.jpg
http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/form-deep2.jpg
http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/form-deep3.jpg
http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/form-deep4.jpg
http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/form-deep5.jpg
http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/form-deep6.jpg
http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/form-deep7.jpg

y aqui estan los materiales que uso:
http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/work-materials.jpg

Thats all .... thanks for reading (and downloading)

Gabriel

[pickassoreborn]

Hey! You have a very nice pencil style, I remember when I did cross-hatching and sketching a bit like your first sketches agesa go. Actually, I keep meaning to scan in more of my sketchbooks... hmm.

Great work!

Steve ;)~

[JackalAnubis]

me gusta estos dibujos mucho, y yo no hablo espanol bueno, las memorias de la lengua estan disapado, ....um I don't think that was correct, hooray for highschool spanish class! anyways these are awesome, I love all the differnt portraits, and your blocked out forms. man, life drawing is key, I wish I would have learned that sooner in life. do it as much as you can as early as you can because it takes a lot of work to get good at it. keep it up!

[gaboartpage]

JackalAnubis --- Gracias por tus comentarios ... i also liked your drawings specially the one of an asian girl, i hope you did well with your t-shirt project ... thanks

pickassoreborn ---- Hey give it a try with those sketchs i also checked your website pretty neat flash interface i like it ;;; funky monkey :D

I am starting to practice on Painter for the first time with my wacom, doing some sketches, not as quick as i would like to , the most important part is to practice color .....

I will never , NEVER use color pick because i think is cheating, the only time i use it is in my own drawing window to start from current color , just that .....

Always remember Ron Lemen , and Kincept tutorials when practicing, and prometheus ANJ radiosity theory ....... i will practice i will practice , i will practice, Repeat with me :rolleyes:

This is my first sketch , always start with color value, between 2 or 4 never more that that i usually use 3, this photo doesnt have good contrast , well .......use a pale warm color for background because i think the drawing is cool (colors for the cloth)......

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/prac1.jpg

For this one the underwear was tooo pale so i decided to put part of my imagination on the values and a cool background color because of dominant warm skin .... dont mind the proportion its awful remember no line scan .......study color study color, study color, repeat with me ..... :rolleyes:

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/prac2.jpg

For this one i was suposed to be a sketch but ended like a --- sketchifinaldrawing frankestein ----:confused: so again proportion is awful because the laying out was poor , i think i been caught in detail and lost the meaning of this exercise and also used many small brush size , wich is wrong for this purpouse .... i have to keep practicing to discover the solution by myself, also i am a coward because i didnt try to make the water effect it was scary :( , also had a lot of trouble with the skin color it never seemed good
http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/prac3.jpg

well thats all for now i will keep posting so i will be my motivation to practice .... muchas gracias por su atencion.

Saludos
Gabriel GArza

[gaboartpage]

Saludos a todos, well i wanted to keep practicing sketches
but once in a while is good to make a finished piece so here it is,......
took me two days and it is focused on Prometheus ANJ Radiosity tutorial
specialy in the hands section of the model.....

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/prac4.jpg

Again i was reading threads and tutorials on this forum
and for now i can see major mistakes in my work ...
first on proportion ....but i can pass that for now because i am focusing on just color
...... its seems like i am just discovering color theory ......

this sketches have colors made by intuition
wich is bad because this exercise it is supposed to be for SEEEING THE RIGHT COLORS
not inventing them .....

i worked all of the following sketches at a 20% preview window
so i can focus myself on the big parts and avoid using small brushes
wich i am controling a bit more

A note: since we all talk about life drawing is better than Photo reference
because the photograph makes some color values
tend to black and some to white
so this detail is lost , unles you modify
the picture levels in photoshop some things reapear
,,, amazing ,, really ....
so i use my imagination ( and some theory)
to make the possible colors in some parts
...mayyybe something bad
.... mmaayybe something good .....

This is kinda High Key of Chroma
http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/prac5.jpg

***
This is Low key chroma
http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/prac6.jpg

********
This one is i think Middle key chroma ,,,, am i just inventing this critics or what ????

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/prac7.jpg

i almost forgot, i have to begin seeing
the planes and volume at the same time
as value color ,,, not just pasting colors
at random with no solid form :bash:

Well this thread doesnt offer anything to learn
but its function is of two things for now,
one is to in some way inspire the forum users (like i was inspired)
to make more drawings and to try be better each time
you can do it !!! :D

And the second is to make me have a reason
to practice and make my drawings be seen by an audience
that has the same interests as me ...

Keep posting and Drawing for i will to ;)

Adios y Buena Suerte a todos :D

Gabriel GArza

[gaboartpage]

hola a todos!

Now i just discovered a model drawing class
on the newspaper and i am taking it
every saturday, obviously i read Kevin Chens
thread everytime so i can get the latest tips
here are my first examples of the first
saturday, using pencil :rolleyes:

Poses of 10 , 15 and 20 minutes

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/workshop1.jpg


http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/workshop2.jpg

As you can see i am having trouble with value
and no line variation, too many innecesary
detail, no form , no planes , i had to improve
more ..... :rolleyes:

Now here is the second saturday again using
pencil , but this time i re-draw one day before
some of Mr. Kevin Chens drawings and realize
many things ...... :)

poses of 10, 15 and 20 minutes .....
my teacher insist of me to let go
the straight line , i saw NO!!!!

please watch the first two poses,
the one in the left is what i do ,
and the right one is me forcing to
do teachers idea of curve, because
he says there is no straight line in
the human body ........ its like disorder
with no form, i prefer straight lines
with form and character ......

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/workshop3.jpg

i didnt listen and continue with my believings
because i want first to practice planes
and form ....... what do you think of this??????

now the model sitting VERY DIFFICULT !!!
:confused: for me i was sweating :D

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/workshop4.jpg

because of perspective things near
seem bigger and distorted, very difficult
thing to make ....

well i thinks thats all for now , but i will
post more of this and more color sketches
very soon , please keep on the good threads
i will go on too !!!!!

(yes i know i dont do concept art, but
i dont feel secure for now)

Muchas gracias, saludos a todos !!!:)

[gaboartpage]

Saludos , well i here are saturdays
Life drawing workshop...

So its my 3rd Saturday so i am not
expecting much improvement

The 5 to 10 minute drawing, again i have
trouble with mass and with figure balance .......


http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/workshop5.jpg
i experimented line weight in this class
Again problems with proportion and very unbalanced .... i tried what is called in spanish
as ESCORZO , means of doing some perspective
on the model ......

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/workshop6.jpg

still using pencils i will try chalk next class....
Puff ,,, just by seeing these and comparing
to others in this site i have a long looooong
way to go, NO MASS, NO PLANES,
NO INTENTION, NO RYTHM, NO VALUES, :mad:

practice, practice, practice, practice
repeat with me :rolleyes:

next in a short time some color sketches ....

Saludos a todos y buena suerte

Gabriel Garza

[gaboartpage]

Como estan??

I hope you all are doing fine, right now
i am practicing for my saturday class,
making copies of all the book of
"Jack Hamm Drawing the head and figure"
because its very relaxing and i think i
am learning more than just by
reading it ........

But here are other Photo reference sketches:

this one is a really quick one ( well for me
quick is two hours) :rolleyes:

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/prac8.jpg

This one is one of my favorites, because
it has good battle between cold and warm,
and also i like the skin color ....... its kinda
finished piece ... again like one day or two
to finish :D

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/prac9.jpg

This one its a finished piece, very very very
difficult to make , i had a loooooot of trouble
making this one , a lot of problems in
proportion , and when making it i remembered
something about Francis Tsai Tutorial......
FLIP THE IMAGE once in a while ......
:eek: i freaked out it looked horrible :eek:
so i was depressed , and modified it and carried
on, (please dont flip this image ;) )

Also i was just watching a tv program about
the artist Willi Sitte, wow really good artist
and changed the brand in the bathing suit
of this girl for the artist name just a small
tribute for all the inspiration
i received watching his paintings ......

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/prac10.jpg

Well thats all for now , i promise to practice
more , really so i can make up to you all .... :rolleyes:

keep the good threads i learn a lot,
and laugh too :D !!!!
i like this forum a lot

Saludos y suerte

Gabriel Garza

[nil]

i cant believe noone has posted in here! you are obviously very dedicated and youve been doing a lot of work. i wish i could give you a really good crit, but i dont think i could give you any useful advice. except maybe you should try to find photos to copy that arent from magazines. the images youve been copying are all extremely saturated and the photos in magazines are so touched up and adjusted that they are really poor representations of real life.
i really like your life drawings, the straight lines are great, i actually find them very expressive.
anyway, i just wanted to say keep it up! i think youre doing fine.

[jadedchron]

Yeah, cool work. Keep it up

[ivaj]

I love what you've done with your drawings, your analyzing the planes. Especially on the clothes, you've kept it simple yet have a suggestion of something underneath it. Have your read Bridgeman?

[jetpack42]

Bridgman is the shiz-niz-dizzle.

Keep up the nice work, I'm going to begin painting and working on colors in the next week or so myself.

[gaboartpage]

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Hola a todos !!!

Hey thanks for watching my works and giving
me such a great support :D :D

-nil - : Thank you for your comments,
you are right about the saturated photographs,
but for now i really enjoy saturation, and
i am still novice in color, so i will get better
photos after finishing the batch i have in
my folder :)
By the way you are doing fine with your
gesture drawings keep the work too !!

- jadedchron - : Yeah thanks !!!! :D

- ivaj - : Thanks for your comments, i like
to make simple enough, and about Bridgeman
i heard about it but i dont know his works ....

- jetpack42 - : Cool i hope you have a good
time coloring and studying, i visited your site
and liked your robot -steam concept , its good

Thanks again , not many people likes my
straight line drawings , they say is not good,
its better to use curve .... but i like to give
solid feel and structured form ........

I have a looong way to go i promise more
works for you all , and less text ......

practice, practice, practice, repeat with me :rolleyes:

I am happy excelent forum !!!! ;)
Saludos y Suerte
Gabriel Garz

[Wonn]

hey I saw your works, and they are really good! you did them different way but interesting. and your pencil sketch is nice, I like coloring things more, but it's a good practice like that.

nice job, keep posting!:)

[gaboartpage]

Saludos a todos !!!!

Hey Wonn, thanks for your comments
i relly like your style, i checked your
other posts and the figures for the
magazinnes are Great !!! :) , and
also i see you have great response
about critics from other Forum members
please consider them , i just hope
i had the same attention :D :D :D

keep posting !!!!!!!!!


:o Well well well now to the sketches,
first the ones i made in my last figure
class, this time i used charcoal....
BIG CHANGE in LINEWORK , i noticed
i had more expressive possibilities, but
i still have a loooong way to go with
proportion and transfering it right on paper....

I started to use the thick part of the charcoal
and to lay a background ( i didnt like the idea)

I think i lose detail but gained volume
... what do you think ?????? :rolleyes:

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/workshop7.jpg

Next some portraits ...AWFUL proportion,
i have big problems with face lay out, in
all my works :mad:

Also started to make more pressure with
the charcoal, and loose up the strokes......

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/workshop8.jpg

Now some marker sketches from my small
notebook, i want to make only portraits,
to practice face lay out and markers .....

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/tatou1.jpg

Another one, pretty messy and dirty

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/tatou2.jpg

:o Now to the color part

I felt depressed when i finished the drawing
the one up and left, i was scared of beginning
another one, i thought i had it
kinda controled, but i was just
making a mess ...... i felt sad
....so ... i came back to the Forum
and checked Ron Lemens Notes,
.... here are a few quotes that falled
to me like cold water and woke me up
( well not completly)

1) "The more we attach to what we see
by context, the harder that object gets
to solve, and the more we rely upon
getting the textures to convince
the eye of what it sees"

2) " The problem most everyone seems
to have with painting the human head
is they paint colors that they see them
in a photograph, but they dont paint
a guy, a 3-dimensional man"

So having in mind this i made one more
try and i felt with more confidence to
continue practicing, Thanks Ron !!!!

(and i promised less text and
more images :rolleyes: ,, sorry )

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/prac13a.jpg

Remember i am focusing on color
not proportion or faces, for now,
another one .....
http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/prac13b.jpg

I stick to just 3 or 4 values, i think
i am understanding better this concept in
the last sketches ........

Seee what i told you about my face
lay out problems seee .... :(
Bad lay out
.... but with more confidence :D

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/prac14.jpg

Well thats all for now, i am working
on new ones, ... faster, less detail,
more value more practice.. practice ....
practice ... practice ..... practice :rolleyes:

Saludos y Buena Suerte

[Bernhard]

Thanks for posting all this, it's very inspiring and helpful - and very interesting, too! :D

[JackalAnubis]

wow you've really been busy! great stuff all round, keep doing it. especially the life drawing!

[sepulveda]

Hola Gaboart, I love the style of your sketches...and I love your humor on the litle images squeezed in between the more finished drawings...It reminds me of the "ghost in the shell book"...you hav a lot of good work here....keep it up!

[Silver Sehkmet]

Your life drawings are great - I always love to see someone nailing the anatomy on a drawing. The color comps are impressive as well. Keep it up!

[SKULLHOZER]

:clapping2 :clapping2 :clapping2

People like you are my insperation, thanx man!!

Keap up the good work you get better and better.
I only hope that one day I would also be able to do art as good as yours.

See you around on the forum...

[IkerCLoN]

¡Hey, compadre! Enhorabuena, porque la mejora es muy apreciable, y poco a poco vas haciéndote un sitio entre los grandes :) Mis más sinceras felicitaciones, y ánimo, que si sigues a este ritmo... quién sabe dónde puedes llegar.

¡Un saludo, y por supuesto, sigue posteando!

[gaboartpage]

Un Saludo a Todos :D

Thank you all for watching this i hope
it helps in your inspiration meter :D

Bernhard: I hope you are doing fine with
your Game designs i liked those PIXEL or
SPRITES drawings they are great ...

JackalAnubis: Its great you came back to
check the thread again :) i will surely
continue posting, i liked your Portrait studies
the # 15 a girl with a hat like a general hat ....

sepulveda: Oye Gracias !!!, I do those small
drawings of myself , to remind me the
errors or things to get better, depending
on my mood i draw my representation ....
its like a diary or something ..... By the
way, great site i just love one of your drawings
POLKA DOT !!:D its awesome , great work
there, i hope you dont mind and check one
of my friends site i hope you like his work
Rene Almanza (http://almanza2.tripod.com/)

Silver Sehkmet: Thanks for the comments
and by the way great sculpture the one called
Moose , good luck :)

SKULLHOZER: Hey thanks for the comments
i saw you sketchs and its true the comments
members make you might need to practice
more from life or maybe like me from
photos and then start from mind
and imagination, see you on the forum too !!

IkerCLoN: Gracias por tus comentarios, pero
todavia me falta mucho camino,.... i hope
i can be as good as the many, many, many
GREAT FORUM MEMBERS , by the way, i liked
your 3d images specially 3 dragones and
your illustration for the cover of your site :D

Well i am sorry that i havent posted
more work but again i am losing my
concentration i have more than 6 days with
a SINGLE sketch i cant pass that test right
now..... but i will try and try .......

more confidence :rolleyes:

You should see the SPEED PAINTING THREAD (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3525)
its freaking Awesome
really great stuff....

Ceenda is doing some great paintings in
so small time, i just feel impotent
at seeing his great ability,
also great work by Barontieri
and Wednesday, and Ron Lemen
is posting too!!, also amazing stuff by,
MGH, Landmate, Jrr, Vyle, Seung Ho,
Hethe, Strych9ine, Giang79
..... many many more

wow, well now my contribution

this is how i am working the color sketches
eye seeing and comparing in the photo
not using eyedropper, take care of the
values and study color , more 3d sense in
my mind :rolleyes:
http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/prac15.jpg

I will post more i promise .....
i cant promise less words and more images
i just cant ....sorry

practice ..practice ...practice ...practice

Saludos y Buena Suerte
Gabriel Garza:D :D :D

[gaboartpage]

Saludos a todos !!!!

First of all thanks to JOSHUATHEJAMES
for changing my thread to the daily sketchbook
sub - forum .... so i am new here :D :D

i will start walking around those wonderful
sketchbooks and threads .......

Well my second time using charcoal, i am
starting to love this little black bars ......:)

but as usually i come up with my proportion
problems and erros that come when you land
on strange land ......:o :o

And about the color sketches i will let them go
for now, i cant pass my fear to color now
and i am very enthusiastic about anatomy
so...... i will follow anatomy now :p

sketches range from 3 min. warm ups....

I usually use the thick part in few strokes
to describe mass , then i enter to " detail "

capture light and movement for now


http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/workshop9.jpg

these ones are more close ups
of 10- 15 -20 min
but keeping in mind the TERM CLAROSCURO

when light parts appear put dark
and in dark leave white .... sort of
:p :p

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/workshop10.jpg

Well thats all for now,
critics are very welcome ,
i hope i can post comments
on your threads too ,
i am very happy to be
part of this great FORUM .......
:) :) :) :)

Saludos y buena suerte

GAbriel Garza

[JackalAnubis]

good to see you here! I like that style of rendering you're doing on those life drawings, it's kindof cubic and geometric , and you're getting a great feeling of form and volume

[Jane Radstrom]

Hi! :) I really enjoy the color studies you are doing, I need to do a bunch of those myself. The blocky/linear drawings you were doing before you started using the charcoal were really nice as well! I am not sure if I like the charcoal drawings as much. I think maybe you need more defined core shadows and relected light, are you familiar with those?

I don't think your teacher is right in trying to get you to make all your lines curvy. Of course you shouldn't draw one straight line from the elbow to the wrist or something, but I don't see any problem with your drawings like that. By the last few line drawings you did you had some very nice, specific forms going in a really interesting style. I've seen most beginers make all curves and circles and their drawings have no structure - at least you are not in that trap. ;)

[insane visions]

good job...nice stuff you have here...keep posting..

[spok]

hey, you're real good...

[maldrin]

you're an inspiration - really working
hard. not goofing around, really learning
stuff. I'm impressed, and you
really show me a lot how to apply
the things one can learn on this
website.

thanks for sharing, you put a lot
of effort into your art and your
posts.

mal

[obid619]

buenas debujas amigo. sorry i know a little espanol. These are great though. I admire your hardwork. I wish i was that hardworking :D

[gaboartpage]

Saludos a todos

:) :)

JackalAnubis: Its nice to hear from you
again i am glad you keep visiting my
thread, i will keep an eye on your posts too

Velo: Thank you for your comments, i hope
you are doing fine with your trip to LA schools
and congratulations on your page, i like your
anatomy analisis, keep up the good work :D

insane visions:Man your thread is awesome
i havent posted there because there is so
many material to see and i dont want
to miss any page, but thanks
for your comments

spok: Thanks man :D :D

maldrin: Hey thank you for your comments
i am glad i am helping others in some way,
i hope you post your works :)

obid619: Muchas gracias, i liked your
comic pages on your thread keep on the
good work

Well i started to take a painting class :)
in oils so i am a begginer , please
dont rip my jobs ;) , NAH , start the critics:D

Here are some quickies of anatomy class


http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/workshop11.jpg

Some quickies of cloth

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/workshop12.jpg

these are 10 - 15 min poses

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/workshop13.jpg

And these are my first oil works :rolleyes:
please critic about it

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/oil_class_1.jpg

Well amigos maybe this is going
to be my last post here UNTIL AUSTIN
i am going to make a test to see how
much can i advance with this workshop
its a personal challenge

I AM A BORNCHILD OF CONCEPT ART. ORG
i would like to learn my first steps
in Austin and continue my growth after June 21
here in the forums

i hope to see you guys in AUSTIN
ITS GOING TO BE AWESOME :D
please bring your works and heart :D :D

Saludos y Buena Suerte

Gabriel Garza

[Omi-kun]

I love it all. the girl you paid your tribute to the artist is the best. Very inspiring.

[obid619]

you are the man dude. great stuff you got going on. You DEFINETELY have potential. those oils are great for a first try. It even looks like maybe it wasnt your first try at all. :D

[Bojee]

gaboartpage- Hey great stuff, good work, I really enjoy seeing your process, you've got a great attitude about how to work. Very inspirational.

Your breakdown of the pages in the magazines was really cool.

Keep up the posts. :thumbsup:

[elboy]

great stuff. you're pretty critical of yourself, but I like how you don't do it to make yourself feel bad. Instead you just work harder to improve yourself. I also appreciate the steps and diff versions you show of your digi paintings. it's always cool to see that stuff. great sketchbook.

[gaboartpage]

Hey hey hey
Como estan ??

Omi-kun: I kind of like that too althought
it has some proportion problems
(dont flip it );) I saw your concept designs
and i like that Hiigaran ship, keep on going :D

obid619: You returned so soon , thanks for
visiting my thread, you keep on doing
works for your thread, seeya around

Bojee: Thanks !! for your comments
i appreciate it, i like your works a lot
and i like your color palette ;) i hope i
see you soon on the life painting thread
please keep posting :D wish you
the best luck

elboy: Thank you for your comment,
its always important to have auto critic
and be sharp and real about your work
whats needs to be improved needs to
be worked and worked and worked.....
Practice... practice ... practice ...
By the way nice ink wash drawings i
like the one with the girl with a bone
in her head :)

well i said that no more post until Austin
but watching everyone doing so many
hardwork and amazing art i had to post
specially watching the Life painting thread (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9562) ,
so many talented
people posting there, Lemen, Kaufman,
Darrow, Bojee, Jrr, Coberly , Swarm,
Main Loop, mermuse, Auguste, Carnes
, Hito, MCM and many mooooore

Well as you guys already know i started
a month ago Oil Painting class so .. heres
my color pallette from " ATL OILS BRAND"

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/3color_palette.jpg

Material

http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/rookie_gear.jpg

Heres my next advance, i hope typo reads well
http://www.gab8.com/ca/past/oil_class2.jpg

I cant wait, I cant wait
a month and three days until Austin

See you there guys ...to post, not to post
to post, not to post ... to p .......

Buena Suerte a todos

Gabriel GArza

[steak-tron]

excellent work gaboartpage,

The angular approach is making some knock-out results in those figure drawings. esp. on the girls faces in b/w a few back and your using all the properties of the charcoal stick to describe the figure. Very well done.

I also see the painting studies kicking in. That's something that intimidates me much to my disadvantage.

well done man.
-steak :cyclops:

[Bojee]

Gabriel- great stuff man , keep it up.:thumbsup:

[maldrin]

Gabe - can't wait to meet you in austin, man. I gotta shake your hand. you are an inspiration - your attitude about art makes me smile and want to try harder each day. you are doing amazing stuff and I am proud to have a chance to "see" it here on ca.org!!

:D

[buzzz3d]

Wow, great stuff, really inspirational.
Great to see the breakdowns.

Keep posting.

[insane visions]

man youre the nicest person and one talented dood...man it was a pleasure doing an oc session even thou we didnt get to finish..next time my friend we will draw again..

[taíno]

Gabriel, tu trabajo es realmente excelente. El trabajo con rotuladores me parece sensacional, -particularmente porque a mí me resulta un medio increíblemente díficil de manejar-
Estoy iniciándome en esto del dibujo y tu trabajo es muy inspirador.
Gracias.
No dejes de publicar.

[maldrin]

Gabe I'm eager to see what's next!


Come on...you can squeeze in one more post before Austin, right?? ;)

Maldrin

[GriNGo]

bueno amigo te felicito por el trabaja que he visto aqui en el foro. veo que te esfuerzas mucho por mejorar cada vez mas. me encantaron tus dibujos a lapices.. oye y quisera saber una cosa? donde estudias? y que tal te parece dibujar con esfero o marcadores finos? antes le daba al lapiz tradicional y al carboncillo y cico y pastel, pero segun como yo trabajo mis trabajos a la final resultan bien sucios. ultimamente he estado trabajando con esfero, y veo que me da un contraste mas defenido de como le hacia a lapiz.

esperando tu opinion, bueno asomarase pronto por aqui no?

saludos!
GriNGoLoCo

[PlasmaViper]

Hey, I love the way you sketch. All of your figures look like they are made out of stone or some kind of metal. Very cool.

[gaboartpage]

Well AUSTIN WAS AWESOME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
check the Thank you thread
for a special message for you
or my Photo diary :)

The thank you thread (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=25440&page=2&pp=30)
ok ok just quick thanks

steak-tron: Thanks man !!!
Bojee:Thanks for the support :)
maldrin:Good to meet you
buzzz3d:ill keep posting thanks
insane visions: Rich Thanks it was awesome meeting you
taíno: Espero que te vaya bien en tu inicio, no olvides practicar siempre
GriNGoLoCo:Gracias por tus comentarios
PlasmaViper:Everybody at work make jokes about that hahahahaha

Well another lesson i learned at Austin
was that i need to start drawing from
my mind so everything in this thread
was photo-ref or life drawing

now i will post my drawings and projects

This is my FINAL GOAL TO DO
this kind of drawing with more
than one character interacting
on perspective and doing something

but i want to do it without linework
just value - color .... i have a loooooong road
to cover ...........

I should Thank Artkitty for pushing me
to post this old Manga drawings well
heres for you .... two example sketches
http://www.gab8.com/ca/trip/rooftop_discussion.jpg
Another one
http://www.gab8.com/ca/trip/plaza_time.jpg
They lack some motion in human proportion
because i used a small mannequin for reference ......

And now some pages of my Austin anatomy
sketchbook , i have to say again to check
the Thank you thread i am lazy to write thanks
again to SO MANY PEOPLE , ..... i miss you all
http://www.gab8.com/ca/trip/backgirl1.jpg

I noticed repetition is the key ... try it
http://www.gab8.com/ca/trip/square_faces1.jpg
an Anime rotation
http://www.gab8.com/ca/trip/aeka_head1.jpg
some muybridge studies
http://www.gab8.com/ca/trip/muybridge1.jpg

Dammit i saw some posts and sketches done in Austin
and i feel bad of posting this crap :(

But after seeing sooooo many great artists i kind of
felt inspired and decided to do something
differentet .... so i started holding the mechanical
pencil like a japanese brush (from the top)
so the strokes are less controled but more varied
and here it is a different approach
from my blocky straight lines . . . . also
the holy style of Yoshitaka Amano was in my mind
at all the time ... jeeshh silly me ......

Miss Conduct sketch

http://www.gab8.com/ca/trip/miss_conduct1.jpg

Rose knight
http://www.gab8.com/ca/trip/amano_inspired.jpg

I started looking for elements around me
and used them for reference for this sketches
anything goes
http://www.gab8.com/ca/trip/backpackgirl.jpg

I kind of like fabrics and stuff
http://www.gab8.com/ca/trip/curve_flow1.jpg

So from now on i kinda like punk girls with loooong noses
hahahahaha here is a SAKURA pen brush sketch
that went to crap i loose the overall purpouse
and fill with stupid non content detail ......
http://www.gab8.com/ca/trip/sakura_pen.jpg

This is my BEAST OF BURDEN sketch it was hard
to have a good place so many talented and funny
gentlemens were competing ..
http://www.gab8.com/ca/trip/202_beast_of_burden.jpg
Here it is my goodbye sketch -note
dedicated to all of you........... did i told you girls and guys i miss you
http://www.gab8.com/ca/trip/goodbye_note.jpg

This is a JEWEL i got in Austin :) Thanks Rich !!!!!!!!!! F***** ng awesome
http://www.gab8.com/ca/trip/insane_visions_dunes.jpg

So now the Austin AFTER - STUFF
i am trying a looooot of composition and abstract stuff
lots of thumbnails inspired by Scott and Sparth
Of course this is crap , give me a chance guys
i am starting here :)
http://www.gab8.com/ca/trip/abstract1.jpg

more 4 value thumbnails wich one do you like?
http://www.gab8.com/ca/trip/abstract_compo1.jpg
Heh a silly portrait
http://www.gab8.com/ca/trip/barbon.jpg

NOW here it is a 6 ILLUSTRATIONS project i want to do
in a short term because i dont do anythung finished
so here are the faaast sketchs thumbnails searching for some
female androids robots , .... ill do full color .... im scared ....
http://www.gab8.com/ca/trip/robogabo1.jpg

More fast sketches just searching shape sillouhette
The illustration is going to be something
like the little illo down at right with floating dress
i want a VERY SIMPLE drawing but easy
to recognize and practice rendering ... well
i will not write and better start to keep working
http://www.gab8.com/ca/trip/robogabo2.jpg

Damn soo many good artist i feel good for
knowing you guys in person ill work harder
from now on i promise , just look at all the
updates in the threads ITS AMAZING !!!!!!!
GREAT STUFF GREAT STUFF, im happy :-)

Saludos y Abrazos a todos
Gabriel Garza

[jetpack42]

Awesome Gabriel. I really wanted to meet you in Austin, I'm glad I could on the 4th day. You were on my list! I really dig the looser style. Esp that girl on the goodbye page. Also, that "silly portrait" RULES! Ink Wash? Man, I love it. I wish we could have had more time to hang out, but at the next workshop, ok? 2 things that have helped me loosen my work up is

-drawing with a pen exclusively.
-doing gestures and quick sketches (with pen even).

anyway, keep up the awesome sketching and work. You're on track, practice is the only thing in your way to greatness..

[hito]

Damn Gabriel these are awsome I don't even know where to begin commenting

http://www.arcthurus.com/gabo/workshop13.jpg
love these, reminded me of the early selfportrait of Josef Albers.

those loose sketches of miss conduct and other characters are kickass awsome too!

[gaboartpage]

hey hey hey
Whuz up guys
it was great meeting you guys at Austin

jetpack42: Thanks for your comments, what i really
try ro practice too is not using eraser at all what
line i place, it stays, unles i get messy i erase all drawing
and start again , i hope you got good luck with
getting the money at Austin at the end :-)

Hito: Thanks Noah it was nice meeting you
we couldnt talk more at Emos cause of the loud music
, thanks for your comments :-)

Well i am still in search of a experiment of 6 illustrations
still searching for a good design that pleases me
i guess this is pretty close to what i want but i will
continue searching forms and give extreme importance
to the fabrics design , volume, value - color and form
search for shapes in photos and life for inspiration . . . . .

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb1.jpg

:bow::bow::bow:
to all other CA members at daily sketch . . AMAZING
STUFF AMAZING !!!!! keep posting good rate going on !!!!

ill continue posting too !!!!

-----Gabriel

[maldrin]

Gabe - thanks for the thank you post, the whole thing was a great read!

all of the stuff you just posted is really awesome. it's great because not only does it show the work you've done in the past, but it gives us a point of reference - it's even easier to see how good you were and how good you've become, along with what styles you enjoy.

the project you're working on now is really interesting. I'm excited to see how you proceed - your notes are fantastic, I see you learned a lot of the same things I did while in Austin, and it's great to see how you apply them.

best of luck, and thanks so much for your always interesting and informative sketchbook thread! Now I feel guilty - i need to get to drawing!

maldrin

[gaboartpage]

Yo Maldrin:Thank you for your comments
i only wrote what was in my heart and mind
Austin was awesome !!!!!!!!!!

An overall comment about what Marc Taro
said... for the ones who doesnt have a fulltime
job use that time for developing portfolio
really!!!! do it !!!!!
I feel happy to have a domain now where
i can upload stuff and post in 5 minutes without
worring about bandwith this is heaven :) !!!!!!

and now i have time to keep doing stuff between
rests at work but there would be a time when
job will surpass me and i will not post more
so if you have time guys WORK AND POST !!!!!
cause its great !!

here is another page i am still developing
shape and design this is hard really hard
to polish something ...repetition repetition
practice practice ...ahhhh feels good to
post again :)

a week ago in this day we were at Emos
ahhhh Austin !!!! snif snif ...... (cut that off)
i have to let it go . . . . . . .
http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb2.jpg

[hito]

great photo diary man!

[tyboogie]

hey man--it was a pleasure meeting you in austin

heres my honest opinion


get rid of the ANIME studies...IMO theyll only create formulas ...and theres no room for formulas..formulas are bad


i love your dedication and passion for study and design...keep drawing and painting from life...and try different styles of drawing and painting. you have a very angular geometric drawing style...

try to draw like MUCHA or KLIMT or LAUTREC...or the quick gestural dawings of REMBRANDT

expand your stylistic vocabulary as much as possible by studying MASTERS

if you do this youll be unstoppable

thats my honest opinion

you have a special vision as an artist...and your EXTREMELY dedicated....come outside of your comfort zone and it will help you growe

keep up the FANTASTIC work

ty

[metalwinds]

i second everything tyboogie said

[steak-tron]

gabriel,

No matter how long this message is it won't be long enough. You are easily the most passionate person on this forum, both in your art and personality. It was a joy to meet you in Austin and I too am sorry it happened on the last day. I was sitting at the IHOP thinking about how it was all over and I had not had a chance to meet all of the great people from the forum. With so much going on at the workshop it was hard to juggle between having amazing conversations with other artist/attendees and catching all of the intense lectures and demos (I'm really pissed that i missed George Hall). So I'm sitting there with the other fellas half awake and asleep and I blurt out "hey, has anyone met gaboartpage gabriel?" Kyler/Dominie Dirtch immedidly says "he's right over there". Duh, this whole time we were probably running into people we have wanted to meet for a long time without knowing what they look like. I'm glad this happend, it was great talking too you and looking at your intense sketchbook. Your dedication and work are hugely inspiring to me and to learn that you are supporting a family while making this amazing work makes me really feel bad about wasting time. The passion we hold in life translates to the passion in the artwork. You have a wonderful attitude and an intense systematic approach to learning and growing as an artist. Those cubed figures are amazing, you are seeing through the surface and understanding the workings, and those anime perspective drawings are incredible! perspective takes a special discipline. Some artists never learn this fundamental cornerstone of drawing. In short time you will find yourself making amazing paintings with the same intensity as Ron Lemen. I think you know this already, but keep doing your own thing. Learn and evolve your drawing and painting skill so that you command the technical aspects but keep experimenting, These female droids are a great start, they are already unique but keep them that way. Part of the success of an artist comes from creating something the world has never seen, something truly unique, I can see you doing that. Please don't be put off by the drudgery of daily life, the art is what makes our lives extraordinary.

I hope i will have another chance to meet you in the future, but I'm glad i got too already.
-kemp

[Groover McNab]

Yeah...what he said :D

I LOVE those angular life drawings. You sir, are going to be a pro someday.

[insane visions]

it was nice meeting you too...too bad we didnt get to hang out, but next time my friend..Im in the same boat as you. I tend to just keep everything to myself and dont have much people that I can relate or rely on...austin change my outlook in some ways and opened my eyes to a world which seemed cruel, but now beautiful to me...I think immersing myself with art helped me cope with the chaos that I feel inside..it was a pleasure meeting u and Im glad that you appreciate the smallest things in life and hold dear the bigger ones....keep posting

[gaboartpage]

With so many
good comments i will
not have time to post
because i have to answer you guys
:) :) :) :)

hito:im glad you enjoyed the photo diary
hey Noah appears in some photos !!!!

tyboogie:Tyler, thank you sooo much for
these comments it made me think all day long
in my head i wont forget this and wont let it pass
really made me think and i am still meditating
this comments . . . .

metalwinds: Danny keep posting im very
inspired by your dedication and talent
thank you for watching my thread

steak-tron:Kemp ..... :cry: ..... damn
thanks , thanks thanks, its hard to battle
against rutine of daily life its sooooo hard
i realize that as a person you cant have
ALL IN LIFE some has health some dont
some money, some dont some love, some not
i realize as a person you need to treasure
what you have and not envy others luck
and realize you cannot have all in life ......
CA has made complement so the many
things i dont have and maybe never will
keep posting duuuude YEAH !!!!!! Steak -Tron!!!!

Groover McNab: Yo thanks for watching
so you liked my stoned drawings hahaha
thanks dude :)

insane visions: RICH !!!!! yo thanks for
writing a great message im glad we meet
your thread is an inspiration for me
dude your sketchbook, your freaking sketchbook
was awesome !!!!! thanks thaks !!!!
----------------------------------------
you know people .....

mmmm the last day we all met and talk to each
other was because there were no lectures and
it all was more relaxed so maybe next time
we should gather one day before
and hang one day later for sketching !!!

People keep posting if you guys continue
at this rate im surely CA will reach a place
were people will come here to take people
for jobs instead of members searching them

Ok ill try to be as dailly sketch as i can be
here is another sketch of kstemb before
continue developing shape i need to know
what parts ill cover with fabrics and what
fabric design to choose before giving texture and color

wach overall silohuette ........
im kinda looking for a combo between 2 -- 4 - & 8
more thumbnails more thumbnails mooore !!!!

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb3.jpg

Ill keep working you too !!!! ill get back to work

------Gabriel

[jetpack42]

Gabriel, cool developments. Thats a great way to go about coming up with something...I just may have to steal it. Keep coming with the studies. We'll all keep helping and encouraging each other. Iron sharpens iron. I have a bold proposition for you...if you liked the drawing I did of you in Austin, I'll swap you for the "silly portrait". I really really dig it. But I'm really such a nice guy I'd send it to you without swapping...I just really like that one...hehe.

Kemp-Tron, the same thing happened to me?! I was lamenting to a few fellas (I think elboy and metaphysiKs) that I didn't get to meet Gabriel and as I'm walking to ask a few more people if they've met him so they can point him out he was standing almost next to them and he says "hey jetpack" and gives me his postcard. I was so happy I hadn't missed him! I was lucky enough to browse his sketchbook later that night too. woot!

[Molly]

Hey Gabo,

I have to agree with Kemp, you have soooo much passion about ur artwork , I think a lot of people here could learn from you (I know I can). I love looking at ur progress, regards to life drawing, faces styles and mediums. Your not afraid to put ur brush to paper. I know you will keep posting, and look forward to the next one....

Mollyx

[gaboartpage]

Yo guys thanks :) !!!!!

jetpack42: hell yeah we will all
be helping each other pointing
out the good things , and the
bad things too ok?
heheh if you didnt made the
announcement to all of us
i wouldnt know you dude
Yo Mike - Jetpack hahaha :)

Molly: ur nice grl frum LUNDON :)
Thanks i am glad im making
contribution to everyone, you too
give a lot of inspiration to the community
ill keep an eye on your thread too
keep posting girl

Well before job i did some sketches
of how to move and rotate and stuff
this robot thing .....

so this is daily sketch, i will not be afraid
of making mistakes and post horrible stuff
cause im learning from errors ....

Just dont expect freaking speed quality
and quantity as Insane_Visions
thats too much :) hahaha

heres the doc .... ill be making
more changes and eliminating things
i dunno .....

quick .. quick .. capture ..motion..
quick .. quick ..capture volume
quick .. quick .. lay down perspective
quick .. quick .. loose fear .. practice more

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb4.jpg

ill try to post and do other things as soon as i can
-------Gabriel

[maldrin]

Aw man these are great - I love how you're going back and forth between really structured examination of what you need to do and then these really free drawings capturing movement, style, action....

looks like you inspire LOTS of people, not just me! I've got to get to work!

thanks for your constant updates - you are a drawing MACHINE.

mal

[Bojee]

Gabriel- You've been holding out ! these are great.

[gaboartpage]

Yo guys i tell you this
domain stuff is nuts !!
i cant believe it :)

i am working meanwhile
having CA opened for some
minutes... watch some
sketch threads and think mmmmm
this is F***ng great i need to draw too

i start some sketches Scan and TADAAAA !!!!
here i am again posting :)

maldrin: I have time now dude so i can post
but i can witness the tide turning back so i am
expecting a big tsunami of work soon :scared:
keep on going Maldrin :) thanks !!

Bojee: Dude whuz up long time how are you
going with the drawing classes thread :)
thank you for watching my thread thanks

heres more developing of a pose or kind
of walking pose decisiding were to place
the horizont line and stuff ahhhhhhhhh
im starting to feel scared of getting this too
complicated for me and not be able to solve
this puzzle . . .


http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb5.jpg

more perspective stuff, getting start the knowledge
from the workshop , thanks to Scott i cant beleive how
easy he makes his freehand perspective drawings
ITS SOOO HARD :(

also starting some of the things from the gnomon dvds should be wise . ..
hey thers a chibi illo :-) over there !!

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb6.jpg

i can see work drowning my time noooooo !!!!

If i only post more good stuff i would not be able
to post so often, i prefer post crap some days and rest
meanwhile recharge batteries and then post other things
more consuming in mind . . . i guess thats the linework

seeya later girls & guys

------Gabriel

[gaboartpage]

Damn its hot in here
just a crappy ventilator
......mm melting

well here are more Ksteamb
sketches im trying to make the
pinup poses for the 6 illustrations
and that walking one is giving me hell
damn it is soooo difficult to move characters
also im defining arms mechanics, i usually
do a lot of info that maybe i wont use or it
wont appear because of the sketchy drawing
but i prefer to have this than doing things blind !!!!

heres some arm mechanics ewww look at
those perspectives ... :nono:
http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/kbsteamb7.jpg

heres some sketch poses trying to make
little compo too point of interest convergence
and stuff like that
http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/kbsteamb8.jpg

another marker sketch
http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/thanks_2_K_.jpg

well back to work

----------Gabriel

[xia]

Great thread you got here...you have a very analytical artistic skill. The way you think + your art + dedication will make you go far, maybe even further than you would know. You will be great! Mark my word on it. Cheers!

http://www.gab8.com/sketch/beach_chair.jpg
This one of yours is simply amazing!!!

[D.O.Jones]

I can't believe I didn't see this before, Very cool stuff. I alwasy like the threads with heaps of progress and learning in them. keep it up.


"im starting to feel scared of getting this too
complicated for me and not be able to solve
this puzzle . . ."

Haha, I've been feeling that alot recently too.

[Yiako]

Gabriel, no soy demasiado bueno expresando mis ideas, así que coge el post de Steak Tron y pon mi firma debajo.
Keep it up!

[marc_taro]

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/thanks_2_K_.jpg

I like this style - very solid - sculptural.

[gaboartpage]

Saludos a todos !!
Xia: im glad you posted a comment
i follow your thread, you are
very dedicated . . .i have seen
your advance in so short time
keep posting Xia !!!!
your gesture drawings are awesome !!!!

Rash Overdrive: Really !!??,
oh i hope you overcome
that soon, so you can send me
a tip on how to manage that fear :)
Thanks for watching , good luck !!

Yiako: No te preocupes, simplemente
con escribir algo me ayuda muchisimo
a seguir adelante muchas gracias
por ver mi trabajo, saludos !!!

marc_taro: YAY!! im very happy you saw
my work Marc . . ive thinking all of
your comments and critics of Austin
and i am willing to continue on this
marathon and even if i dont get the firsts
places i will reach the end , ill keep posting
as daily as i can thank you for writing :)

Today was my second free day of work
and last for this week so i wanted to relax
and listen music sleep and make some drawings
without worrying about shape and resemblance

Doing marker thumbs made me realize
that you get to practice,
design / compo / start thinking one step ahead
and sharp creativity

no mistakes no erasing so its a lot of tension
at the beggining but have to take it easy
and enjoy the ride
. . . . . S**T
i really write a lot, its my nature i cant
control, i think you guys just want to see
the visual and not the sea of gray (typo)

First abstract with mechanical pencil
and choose an angle or area
http://www.gab8.com/ca/abthumb/thumb_ab1.jpg

This is more thinking of shape first (in mind)
and execute trying to describe deep,
volume or atmosphere . . .repetition is
the key here, for every 20 or 40
one comes ahead
http://www.gab8.com/ca/abthumb/thumb_ab2.jpg

Thanks Scott, thanks Sparth
im enjoying this

Nos vemos mañana
-------Gabriel

[the good war]

hi
you have a fantastic sketchbook here. seriously your work is a reminder of everything i should be doing =) . i have to tell you man your critque of my work was spot on and every time i draw i think of what you told me what you taught me in the lounge. that will stay with me for the rest of my life so thank you for taking the time your passion is contagious! thanks!
-jon

[TARGETE]

Excellent studies and drawings gaboartpage, your perspective studies with the mechanical stuff is mind boggling, greattttt!

JP

[gaboartpage]

Como estan !!??

the good war: Hey Jon you started a new thread
im glad, and thank you for sending a message
i hope the talk we had helped you in something
it was nice to talk of this kind of stuff with
so many people and get so many different points
Thanks dude :)

TARGETE: JP!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: damn
now i feel with more will to continue
there are sooooo many great artists
in CA and the internet you are one great JP
and im glad you saw my thread :) !!!!!!!!
ill continue Thanks Thanks Thanks :)

Ok so more character development
(or a lame excuse to not start painting)
now i need to decide wich kind of hair / face
to place also i want to do some kind of
divisions in her face or something i dont know
not cheesy tatoo ala Hammer jack ;) hahahahaha

Also introducing the other cast of characters
-2 more female robots
-the 3 work at coal mine or something
-the 3 eat coal
-the 3 found an human shape robot
in the mines and decided wich part of the
body would be for who so they ended like this
ahhhh in see this and think mmm stupid linework
so dirty so insecure so bad....practice.. practice ...practice

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb9.jpg

damn i need to do more
seeya later

---------Gabriel

[gaboartpage]

Well its been a looong
time since the last update
i know, i know ..
QUALITY before QUANTITY
but i am enjoying this and i think
thats a good think why stop ???
i may not have the ability of you
guys to do finished work
but i am having fun with this
So another AUSTIN LESSON:

do the things you enjoy to do !!!

i know i know
i write a looot

here it is another page of sketch
im starting to think my design
is pretty straight forward and i dont
like it so much ... what to do ...what to do

to move character its essential to
snap the body and legs in a good balance
and weight then plug head and arms .....

This design is not so cool and difficult
the hard part is to control the overall
proportions in perspective :eek:
and with simple shapes have more
control over rendering the form ....

Ah***t i just remembered i didnt do
options of legs with two articulations
back to the sketchbook then . . . .

hey theres another chibi illo here !! :)
watch out for those tangents too !!

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb10.jpg

seeya later guys

-------Gabriel

[gaboartpage]

ufff this is very exhausting
when doing running or marathon
it comes a part when your body
begins to get pain so this is
where mental work kicks in
... im at this part

been posting for a week daily
and i am now complaining
im such a girlie-man
my mind is staring to get
in a cycle and creativity
is evaporating
but must go on . . .

many people are posting such work
that is so amazing and inspiring
this is my booster for carry on
i thank you guys for that

yeah yeah just shut the F***k up
and draw man ... well this is getting
pretty boring cause all are the same
structure drawings , just polishing
no colors and stuff .... ...

its hard to come up with new
shapes and HARDER TO ARMONIZE
ALL SHAPES in one design so its
a hard task . . . .

by the way TYLER your freaking comment
is haunting me everytime i start a new page
i thank you for that heres alittle tribute fer ya

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteam11.jpg

i shouldnt post this now, so this is
our little secret ;) ok? i hope
it doesnt harm anyone

http://www.gab8.com/ca/abthumb/proceso-vamosmexico.jpg

ill see if i can pull some more
lets give time and practice
a chance ok?

Saludos a todos muchas gracias !!!!!

---Gabriel

[steak-tron]

wow gabirel, that last page is great. I see lots of confidence in the line work, that's part of what I love about your work, solid goemetric forms and angles, but not always. If the robot is giving you trouble try looking at real tech. I'm drawing lots of power tools now and it's helping immensly. Also, if your not content with the design keep sketching, finals can wait until we're 80 ;).

good luck buddy.

[BRANDISH]

I love those steam robots! i`ve the impression your lines are really quick and precise.

[gaboartpage]

BRANDISH: Thanks dude, well you think so??
i dont really know . mmmmm well thanks
for dropping a message :)

steak-tron:
(saturday night live the english rich family comedy sketch)

Gabo turns around chair to face Kemp
gabo (sarcastic face and tone): well said Kemp

--clap

5sec

--clap

5sec

--clap

well said , .......80 years . . . .very funny

hahahaha dude thanks for the support this is the works
i make in the newspaper for editorial sections, you know
politics and stuff ... ill follow your advice for sure
and i hope i can finish as soon as i can ill do it
you keep posting too dude !!!!!!! :thumbsup:

well for keeping this alive more marker sketches
something Steak - Tron said in his thread about
not so many "bad things" are shown well heres
a sketch that went to crap

The analisis here is that i made a drawing
with organic line and intended to use the medium
"markers" doing like watercolour or something
i now noticed that when using this medium
i HAVE TO ADAPT my lines to the marker rendering
more "design " straight or curve loooong lines
more pure design not many detail ...large areas
and the like

also iam trapped inside the linework
and tend to not pass it

......maybe do some marker sketches where
i pass the line for better quality area
and cover at the end with black marker
or white ink to delimit shape

http://www.gab8.com/ca/abthumb/marker1.jpg

so here it is a second attempt
i made, i was motivated so did
it better ..... :emb: k

more pure design not many detail
but i think cleaner and better shape read

http://www.gab8.com/ca/abthumb/marker2.jpg

practice is the key here .. . . practice and experience

seeya later CA members im glad we are all
so motivated , great community
im happy to be part of it :)

--------Gabriel

[gaboartpage]

uff this legs are giving
me trouble but i want to
go on so heres the final leg
design as no one here remembers ;)
my final design was supposed
to be giving primary attention
to fabrics so the structure is
like a skeleton where fabrics
will hang and help shape its form

theres a little Illo of what
i search with wind, fabrics & perspective
fabrics capture moisture and helps
engines cool more so lots of fabrics :)

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb12.jpg

so now ill continue with the
other two female supporting characters
of the story before making design sheets
Keep posting like this dudes !!!!!
im enjoying this adventure with you guys :waves:

-------Gabriel

[Yiako]

http://www.gab8.com/ca/abthumb/marker1.jpg

I find really funny how this beautiful, elegant and synthetic drawing is surrounded by so many negative remarks. Give your inner critic some holidays in a far away country and turn off the mobile. :)

[bonedog]

Wow Gabriel, amazing work. I love to see all your process sketches... I don't know what you're doing, but I'm sure it must be worthwhile :)

-bonedog

[deschamps]

Lovely sketchbook Gabriel! I enjoy the way you simplify your form and shapes. Very fresh.

[gaboartpage]

Yiako: really !!?? hahaha Thanks man
shhh but ...
between you and me
( i cant get rid of it at
every second it haunts me ....creeepy)
Thanks for your support

bonedog: I DONT KNOW EITHER
hahahahahaha thanks dude for watching
ill make it worth i wont stop ;)

cire600: your stuff is so cool
you have amazing linework dude im glad
you dropped a message thanks
for the comments

anyway people if that last wasnt
crappy enough well heres some
work that make me ashamed
but
i think it will help to keep a log
and maybe it can help you as it
is helping me .... learn from errors

so ... ewwwwwwww here it is
http://www.gab8.com/ca/abthumb/mistakes_crap.jpg

i cant beleive i posted this
its a major step in losing my fear
well i did another one after the last one

http://www.gab8.com/ca/abthumb/marker3.jpg

it needs to be very faaast to accomplish
that design line shape i want its hard
but i will keep punishing your eyes with
my experiments HA HA HA HA HA :firedevil
back to work now

---------Gabriel

[gaboartpage]

well to get the bad
sour taste from last update
(sort of ) heres some more
ksteamb character development

heres the the second of 3
main characters also a coal miner
this girl got the arms and legs
from the dumped robo female
they founded the rest is mechanical
machine body and face ......

following the fabrics main design
and stuff this girl chews coal

im pretty ok with this design
maybe because i kind of nailed
the other one and just semi
transformed this ... im just crazy talking
dont hear me ... mmm i need to polish this .....

more shape search and stuff . . . .

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb13.jpg

gotta go home now

----------------gabriel

[hito]

great moogelie Gabriel you're update insane! :bow:

[artkitty]

Looking good!
On the last design, it's very functional, which makes me wonder what the fork on the hat is for.

[gaboartpage]

Hito: Yo Noah i dunno what that means
but coming frem ya its good thing man
thanks for watching i appreciate it :D

artkitty: LLyke writing for Thanks
You know im a loyal fan and i follow you every post
Thank you for everything

Well guys heres the third female
character . another coalminer
coal eater and the like, this lady
won the torso of the robo female dumped
thats why she likes to show it and
she doesnt cover it in cloths or fabrics
This is my first nude concept ever hahahaha
im influenced by CA :) so this is for you people

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb14.jpg

more tomorrow

---------------Gabriel

[gaboartpage]

Yo guys, just returned
it seemed to me like
soooo long time
These past two days
were great for me :-) !!!!

:B

and now the usual update, more
female robo coal miners and
i m following developing
these concepts

no more comments

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb15.jpg

next update fabrics and more robos

Saludos
-------------Gabriel

[jetpack42]

i don't quite understand what i'm looking at to help you out, but i'm waiting in anticipation for the finish.

Oh, and the package was sent today. I'd have had it out earlier, but its been a wild week with my grandpa in the hospital and all...sorry bout that. but, it should arrive shortly.

[gaboartpage]

jetpack42: Hey dont worry Mike
I hope your Grandfather is fine
and gets well soon, i hope your
family is fine too , good Luck Mike
ill send you a PM when your drawing arrives
PM me if mines arrives too :-)

Thanks for watching

Well CA Members heres next day update
with fabrics ....im searching wich design
will be on these gals capes and fabrics

im kind of searching for this "shape"
or "silhouette" for drawings not much
on structure but more sketchy feeling
also to get this when making the full color works

and yes i know there are many hard-bad-type dudes
on CA and maybe this cute stuff is a turn- off, but
i kind of like iconography stuff because is easier
to transfer to perspective and communicates a lot .....
......also im Japan - geek ..... >_<;

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb16.jpg

Heres some doodles of compo for these project
heres a scene ... hahahaha only i can see this
well anyway hhrmm hrmm ... in this scene
these gals find inside the mine or cave a female robo body

im trying some informal division compo and mixing
some radial , arc and curve lines compo too

always searching for a focal point wich i choosed here
is the head or face of the female robo that is off ( or dead)

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb17.jpg

i kind of liked the last one where is aerial view ... well i dunno
more soon . . . . by the way you guys at CA are my
heroes everyone posting soooooo often im glad everyone
is pulling everyones inspiration out of our souls , im glad :-)

--------------------------Gabriel

[arghmisfit]

wow very nice. i like your style :nopity:

[gaboartpage]

arghmisfit: Yo thanks for writing
and watching haha im glad you liked
it :-) !!!!

I was thinking about
comments like jetpack42 s
i think its a FLAW and ERROR
of my part to not be able
to communicate my ideas with
the audience so this is my mistake

so the problem is:
1) my ideas are not clear
2) my drawings dont have
good enough level of descriptive
3)technique doesnt help depic the ideas

So what the F***K im doing here well:

--Making designs for a 6 illustration personal
experiment project
In full color

--These are 3 robo females that work
as coal miners

--I want to have characters sheets with lots
of visual information so i can use that for
making a SKETCHY ILLUSTRATION
wich is my final goal here

Ill add more if i remember :-P

So no pity me i just ask for patience ok?
ill learn and maybe you too if this fails
Carry on !!!!! :-)

Moving joints and character in action
helps to notice errors in structure
and possible mistakes or traps in future
development of illustration so heres some
exercises using perspective and weight

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb18.jpg

This is another possible compo, Feiz is trowing
steam out of her vents while holding a miner tool

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb19.jpg

Heres more "cute" fabrics design research for these gals capes

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb20.jpg

I promise i will get better guys cause this worries
me now to know my technique and craftsmanship
isnt reflecting my ideas so i have to work harder

Ill do it i have enough inspiration already :B

im watching every thread dudes im not
answering as i would like cause got lots of work :-(

Saludos a todos

--------------Gabriel

[gaboartpage]

Yo guys todays 19 update
finally heres the final design sheet
for one of the three female
robo characters im thinking
that setting at the side of robos
a human reference helps
set better my idea of size and story

now for sure i will include humans
in every of the six illustrations for
more conceptual impact

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb21.jpg

Some sketchy doodles
using the fabrics designs
for feiz overall design

just to think i have to make
production and color management
and color overall pallette
makes my head hurt because
of lack of free time ... but ...
im having a lot of fun :-)

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/miss_you_spacey.jpg

Thanks to everyone for posting
such amazing stuff and for their
support , Thanks Rich

------------------Gabriel

[buzzz3d]

Those last pages are great.
Thanks for putting up that webpage of the workshop, I enjoyed it very much.

[Dahsramu]

Gabriel, your images are so much fun to look at!! I like how each sketchbook page you post seems to have a goal behind it - to improve some aspect of your work. It seems to me you write up your own lessons and then practice them in your sketchbook :) And it seems like you have a lot of fun doing it!

I really like the concepts you have been posting up in the last week or two - i especially like the page about moving joints and characters in action. There is great strength in your lines - very simple but very well chosen.

I also wanted to say that it was great meeting you in Austin. If you dont remember me, I was sitting near you in the back of the bus to the Rollerderby - me and you were in awe as we stared at Metalwinds' sketchbook. I remember how we discussed how inspiring his sketchbook thread was.

Now I find that your sketchbook thread has quickly become one of the more inspiring threads to look at as well. I stop by often. Keep up the great work :D

- Umar

[steak-tron]

great progress gabo, can't wait to see the final product (but please take your time) You are thorough in your process, this will pay off!

[gaboartpage]

buzzz3d: Dude im glad you liked the last
pages just be patience ok? and glad too that
you enjoyed the photo diary that helps me
not to forget what i will treasure for the
rst of my life

Dahsramu: Umar !!! of course i remember
you dude, you even told us at Ihop that maybe
we would forget names but not faces and
experiences and thats right :-) im glad
you noticed all those things and that you
enjoyed the notes hahahaha thanks for
your support

steak-tron: Kemp, dont push it man
hahahahaha i will take my time
now that i have your support, dude
your stuff is amazing you leveling up
sooooo fast , im glad you post
and watch so often this crap dude
i will make effort to not dissapoint you
you keep on too !!!!!! go steak go !!!!!

more Ksteamb development
hang on dudes im only reaching
a 30 - 40 % of the project hahaha

but dont worry i have enough
inspiration to carry on <3 :B

heres the scarf of Feiz and how is
it made or something . . .

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb22.jpg

Heres the chart comparison of the 3 robos
and a human reference for size
some notes on cave lighting and some miners

what can be more sexy that rough
bra less rude attractive female miners :-)
i just love loose cloths and fabrics

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb23.jpg

You know what i noticed
some of us have this time of day
as our favorite time to update
i can see Artkitty, Velo, Metalwinds
,Steak -Tron , and many others
. . . so curious. . i feel at home ;-)

so seeya tomorrow at this same hour then

--------Gabriel

[Yiako]

what can be more sexy that rough
bra less rude attractive female miners :-)

Mmmm... nothing? :) Well, maybe the way they are drawed!

[gaboartpage]

Yiako: hahahaha thanks man
im glad you liked the miners
more soon hahaha

Well i couldnt update more
project because i got something
very special and had to reply soon :bheart:

in other things after watching Danny s
thread i was soooo inspired so heres a little
tribute fer ya hahaha its so hard to follow
your advice of doing loose rendering
its so hard !!!!!!!

just promise you wont stop dude !!!!!!
keep inspiring all of us :thumbsup:

well heres my crap

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/tribute_metalwinds.jpg

tomorrow more project development

-----------Gabriel

[jetpack42]

gabriel,
i admire your dedication. you really stick with it. please take what i say with a grain of salt, and also remember, they are YOUR sketches. for all intensive purposes, YOU are the only one who need get something out of them.

we're lucky enough that you share the ride. Just because I don't always understand whats going on doesn't mean I'm not learning something or enjoying your thread. Keep it coming, buddy.

I love the "i miss you spacey" page....awesome!

[metalwinds]

hey buddy. first off, i gotta thank you for the monster crit you gave me. .. ..its MUCH appreciated. also, you guys inspire me just as much as i inspire you.. if not more.. .i can promise you that.

that pic you dedicated to me looks real nice, dude. its different than your other work, and i like that. . .its fresh and i would like to see a lot more stuff like that from you.

my crit for you is to do as much reference work as you can. i see that right now you have a project that you are doing, but in addition to that, do loads of reference work every day. .. .i cannot possibly tell you how much it helps, and how much it has helped my work. work on trying to copy something EXACTLY how it looks. .. and do that for many different subjects. the reference work will push your work much more and much faster than anything else you could be doing right now. do reference in pencil, charcoal, oil, acrylic, pastel, color pencil. .. .anything you want. .. .in both color and black and white. spend a lot of time on them as well. .. thats when a lot of the learning takes place, i have recently discovered (with the wisdom and guidance of wes burt). start doing self portraits.. . .make many different lighting situations and use different mediums.. . .draw your face at different angles. .. this will help you develop form and space in your work, and develop your reference skills more.. as well as push your values and develop your knowledge of light and shape.

another piece of advice i have for you is.. .when you do your reference work.. . get really expressive.. . let that pencil flow. get yourself some large paper.. ..something like 30 x 40" or at least 18 x 24", and use your whole arm to draw. take that pencil and loosen your wrist and go to town.. . .keep your shoulder loose as well. throw the medium all over the paper. ... .use something like a compressed charcoal or pastel for this.. it will help you loosen up, but at the same time it will really tighten your drawings. when youre trying this technique, focus on values, but also focus on line quality.. ..work that medium as much as you can.. .roll it in your fingers, jam it into the paper, turn it on its side and twist it around to make some lines and values.. . .experiment with it. and of course, when youre doing all of this, do it from reference.. .preferably from life (set up a still life with a controlled light source). your work is too blocky.. .you need to start seeing those subtle curves and forms. after you have your strong foundation down, if you want to do the blocky thing you have going now, that totally cool with me, but you need the foundation first.. . and if you go with the blocky approach later on, then it will be that much stronger because you will have a strong foundation.

anyway, that is my crit for you, my friend. i hope it will help you in your studies and your journey as an artist.

danny

[Spacey]

I miss you too ;)

I don't have much of a crit, but just wanna tell you keep it up, I'm diggin' this style!

[gaboartpage]

jetpack42: Thanks for the comments dude
always a pleasure to read your comments :-)

metalwinds: cooool thanks Danny i will practice
all you said for sure , hahah im such japan - geek
that i might start to call you Metal-sempai hahahaha
for being such a guidance . . .
your thread is awesome and your dedication and
talent is incredible im grateful you dropped
these crits to my job , Thanks metal - sempai haha :-)
dont stop posting !!!!

Spacey: hahahahahaha i didnt know there was
a spacey around here , sorry hahaha the note was
dedicated to another person , thanks for dropping
by your comments :-)

Well heres more Ksteamb designs
the final sheet of Mitty
a coal tester and searcher

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb24.jpg

damn i need to work faster

mmm by the way new CA design
i like the mainpage very cool and easy
to update .. congratulations to everyone !!!!!

--------Gabriel

[xia]

Incredible study! I love all the thumbs and the thought...and the dedication.
Your stuff is coming along reallly well. Impressive stuff. U really did put some thought behind thes things.

[stephen]

awesome sketchbook gabo, i can definitely see why you wanted to study with kevin so much. You work very analytically and he teaches the same way.
again, fantastic work, keep at it yo.

[gaboartpage]

xia: hahah Xia dude thanks
for watching again (and being patience)
this robots are giving me nightmares
but fun nightmares :-)

stephen:Ha yo whats up
good to see you again :-)
you are doing great work too !!!!
i can see you are learning so many
good things , keep posting :-)
oh no . . .
i just remembered i needed
to send a E-mail to Laafigart ahhh
someone is going to be upset

Well this design made me sweat !!!!
its all messy because when im
nervous i cant control my economy line
and my clean factor so i erased like 20 times
joints and ankle . . . had to break geometry
and think always how would all behave . . .
but its final design
i have to move on to the next stuf

environment design !!!! ...scary !!!

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb25.jpg

and following Metal - Sempai advice
meanwhile do reference work ... its crappy
but here it goes :-) hahaha freaking Metalwinds
may be WTF with this guy calling me Sempai hahahah
i cant handle my japan - geek mutation :-)

im not secure about linework and
the sleeve went to crap with that
heavy stroke i think . . .

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/little_hat.jpg

ok more tomorrow
keep posting dudes !!!!!!
dont stop, remember the marathon
maybe not first place but make it
to the end ok , together :-) !!!!!

Gabriel Garza

[Crunch]

very solid stuff man. keep it up and you will go far. as long as you keep drawing it will be all good.

[imglue]

gabriel, perdoname por no ver esta pagina. :bash: gracias por todo tu aviso y consejos, me encata este proyecto, espero que te diviertas porque eso es lo mas importante.
mi consejo: cuidado que no sea muy rigido, trata de usar elementos mas organicos para el producto final.

keep posting, i just fianlly did after quite a hiatus.
ill keep an eye out for ya.

remember to draw from life, theres nothing more beautiful.....er...

[gaboartpage]

Crunch: Hey thanks dude , please feel
free to make critics

imglue: Hey que pasa Miguel como estas
gracias por tus comentarios , well
and for design almost all is solid
and straight shapes because i want
to make contrast with the curved organic
shapes from capes and fabric, ill
follow your advices :-)

heres some fabric --mmm
semi final designs for the robos
also a small comparison table
with human scale reference

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb26.jpg

and heres some environment doodles
im still testing grounds so hang on for
a big and sloooow batch of environment
sketches . . . .

no matter what always depict
horizont line , it really helps !!!
but i kind of missed overall in first one :-(

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb27.jpg

After seeing conceptart main page
is a slap in the head
.. . . . . i have a looooong road to travel

Now i know i am such a begginer
and only by practice ill maybe reach some of that

watching those galleries brings you
to earth level and makes you humble

its good to watch the pros to know
where you are standing now and
think about it and KEEP PRACTICING

such powerful concepts so wonderful renderings !!

you guys are my heroes :-)

Gabriel Garza

[gaboartpage]

Saludos a todos

Heres more environment design
still making doodles and experimenting
with caves and mines, i need to
start watching better and taking care
of values . . . one thing i noticed
is that im taking the lightest value as white
and maybe thats a mistake . . . cause
white would only be light or a very bright
metal surface . . . well anyway
i have a looooooong road to gravel . . .

looking for places for designing environment

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb28.jpg

also checking and analizing
light of flash camera behaviour
i kind of want that look in some
of the illustrations . . . .
not much form but good fallout
of light for atmosphere

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb29.jpg

doing more homework of Metal - Sempai
but it stills looks like crap, its very
difficult tasks . . . i need to loosen up
im trying im trying . . .practice . . practice

damn that right eye is sooo messed up
damn bad picture choice also, too many
whitey areas and not many forms . . . crap

searching for FEEELING the form not tracing
but FEELING OVER SHAPES

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/recipe.jpg

more caves tomorrow . . portraits . . maybe . . scared. . still

Gabriel Garza

[gaboartpage]

AHHHHHHH !!!!
this portraits practice
is driving me nuts !!!!!
checking values
checking media usage
checking accents
checking reflective light
checking form rendering & planes
checking human resemblance and proportion
AHHHHHH!!!! its so F***g difficult !!!!

heres the crappy awful damn thing

everything went wrong :-(
but i wil not be defeated ill continue !!!!!
damn you pencil , damn youuuu!!!

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/badportrait.jpg

After i ended my rage i made
this one to compensate
im more comfortable with linework

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/brushy.jpg

and heres more caves ...
im starting to care more about
design wich should be an
important part in compo

remember value placement
near - black /// far - midtone /// distance - white
or
near - white /// far - midtone /// distance - black

also since im not perspective -good
i kind of manage to do free perspective
placing horizont line and using my instinct
to place lines with a mental grid . . . more
quickie sketchy free style . . just to depict depth and space

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb30.jpg


Gabriel Garza

[gaboartpage]

>:|
i wont give up
i wont give up
took a 4h and 2b pencil
for real quickies
trying to depict really fast
i wont feel bad of making
mistakes

im very impatience
so maybe thats why i cant spend
hours on same drawing ^^;

her skin is bad depicted
and awful rendering
but i got to start from scratch
no matter what ill start again

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/awfulquickies.jpg

Heres some shape of mine stuff
im trying to have a good bank
of images to then use them
for background environment
design... ill continue for a while
then do thumbnails of the 6 compos
so i dont waste time doing innecesary work

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb31.jpg

As i told you yesterday
this is free perspective
im comfortable with all this
cause it doesn t has design curves !!
wich are soooo hard to do in perspective

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb32.jpg

Thanks a lot to Prometheus ANJ !!!!!
this smileys are AWESOME :D

Gabriel Garza

[maldrin]

gabe I was away for almost a month and I was so eager to get back to CA.org so I could follow the progress on your mining robots...

you blow my mind ---------- :jawdrop:

I love everything your working on, and I would love to have a BOOK of how you progressed through this process - you are insane but methodical and I love it.

however, I gotta say, my fave is this (http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/recipe.jpg) image...this really has emotion to it that I am amazed to see you convey so easily. keep at that part, keep at what Danny suggests even with all the other things you're doing. those tasks will feed each other - all your work will improve and get new life inside it.

i'm amazed. you rock. your thread makes me so glad to be back online.

maldrin

[hito]

WOW WOW WOW Gabo you're a madman! tons of project work AND tons of practice. I'm so ashamed of my own lack of effort...

your nude coal miners are shaping up real nice.

I love your portrait practices. They are gorgeous.

[gaboartpage]

maldrin: dude your back , cool
im glad you enjoyed the visit :-)
well i still have a long road here
need to make more things to finish this
but thanks for the words and visit
you keep on going too !!!

hito: hahaha Noah how are you dude?
always a pleasure receive your messages
ill try to keep this updated as daily as i can
i know some of this stuff is not premier
but im comfortable with this "quality & quantity"
just wait dude ill drop ya a message too :-)

Well heres more free
perspective cave designs
Hey theres Tso down there . . .

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb33.jpg

more tomorrow

Gabriel Garza

[gaboartpage]

Yo !
heres more cave mine free perspective
http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb34.jpg

tomorrow some value / compos

Gabriel Garza

[southerncomfort]

http://www.thedesignlanguage.com/misc/avatar_new.jpg
May I have this as a souvenier... this char looks exactly like me!!!! :)

[metalwinds]

gabo, i definitely dig the environments. continue to do the reference work. .. seems youre having trouble loosening up. my advice to you.. .go big. .break out of your sketchbook and get some paper thats at least 18 x 24". get some compressed charcoal and go to town on the large paper. .. make sure youre drawing from life (set up a still life or something with a good lightsource). take the charcoal and roll it around, turn it on its side, smear it.. .do anything. draw with your emotions.. .do a drawing where youre angry.. one where youre sad, etc. dont hold back.. .if you feel like scraping your charcoal across the surface because your so mad, then do it. draw fast, draw slow, draw with your opposite hand, draw without looking at your paper. dont thing too much about what youre drawing, just let it flow.. .let it flow from your emotions. also, dont forget to use your eraser (use a kneaded eraser). use it to pull out highlights and to push the values.. .dont use it to correct mistakes. stay expressive when you draw, draw with the movement of your arm and with your entire body. anyway, continue to work large (preferably 24 x 36".. .or something about that size) and use charcoal and chalk pastel to loosen up.

thats my advice for now. peace buddy

[gaboartpage]

Como estan todos?
espero que bien

southerncomfort: hahaha really ??
thats great you took your time to watch
those kind of details and edit one :-)
i used to do "Chibi Gabo s" in all and i mean all
my pages to help me express my emotions
mood and critiques but people payed more
attention to those than the drawings T_T . . .


metalwinds: Metal-Sempai-Kaze desu, hahaha,
your time and advice are very valuable,
i wont waste them dude ill do time
in my schedule to do big format things
cause all you said has helped
my works and it shows,
just look at the thread
im grateful and i support you in this uncertain time
you are having ,ill send you a PM ,
my geek fan boy genes come out dude
its so amazing to know an artist like you
. . Thank you again for the time invested in CA
you are special part of this great comunity
environment that we all members and lurkers are living,
we will try to wait patienly for you to come back :-)
ganbare !!!!!!


and now some abstract compo
for the miner robos project
6 illustrations, very easy to read
and understand, great attention
on design of compo and implementation
of Austin workshop knowledge . .

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb35.jpg
more of this tomorrow

Gabriel Garza

[southerncomfort]

Thank you very very the much!!! :wink:

[southerncomfort]

Thank you very very the much!!! :wink: I would like to see more of that really!! It adds personality to your drawings! :er: :D

[jetpack42]

hey buddy, you're really truckin along. Have you gotten the sketch I sent? I really hope you have...or else I'll lose all faith in the mail :nohope:

You're doing a swell job on the portraits, wether you see it or not. They aren't perfect by any means, but you're getting the right idea. practice will bring with it confidence, dimensionality, form, and likeness.

Have you seen Feng's environment DVD? I think it would benefit you ALOT.

Great work, my friend. Don't give up.

[gaboartpage]

southerncomfort: No problem dude
ill see if i can bring him back
hey southerncomfort is making
clones hahahaha . .. . :^^;:

jetpack42:Yo dude havent received
it butjust sended you a PM,
and thanks, thanks ,thanks
for your honest critique please
keep them coming i need those :-) ,
and yes i saw one of Fengs DVD
amazing stuff i saw the industrial
fabric one, soooo cool
Feng is one of my inspirations
for marker use . . . Thanks again

Well today my markers dried
in the middle of this page T_T
Marker 10% has become my :inject:
i cant live without it . . and now
im starting to feel it like neccesary
like pencil . . . . i want one sooooo bad :needle:
it was supposed to continue environments
but you know the story . . . . . the art stores
here SUCK !!!!!!!! no markers until 2 weeks

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb36.jpg

tomorrow ill have to make character
miners or mine tools i dunno

and yes im conscience that i write
a lot and that quality over quantity
its just that my goal after doing
this project is to post daily sooooo
you guys have to let pass all this crap

:pirate: i just love all these new smileys
Gabriel Garza

[jetpack42]

don't forget when you view a circle from an angle it elipses some. I got your PM and will continue to hope you get it! Thanks! :blahblah:

[gaboartpage]

jetpack42:Yo Mike thats the attitude
dude ill consider all those comments
glad you got my PM :-)

now since im weaponless
no 10% marker :nohope:
im going to do only lineart

heres some drill references
and a loose sketch of FEIZ
holding one before
crushing some rocks at the mine

its hard to capture detail
since images on internet
are low res :S

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb37.jpg

maybe some crappy
portraits tomorrow

Gabriel Garza

[pandawhipped]

Hey Gabriel, your stuff looks really familiar, I must have looked over someones shoulder as they were looking through your sketchbook. Your work ethic is awesome! I wish I worked as hard as you do, cause I'd get better so much faster. You're improving a lot already, even in the month or so that youve been posting this thread.

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/tribute_metalwinds.jpg

this is by far my favorite picture here. It shows so much confidence and really says a lot even in just a sketch.

It looks like you have a very good understanding of form and structure, so I can't really give you any tips on that. However I will say that lately Ron has been pushing me to leave the structure behind. My portraits all tended to have the same look and feel to them, and overall be very stiff, until I learned to just let go of all that structure I had held onto so dearly for years. Try it out and see for yourself what happens. It might take awhile before it doesnt feel completely foreign, and if youre anything like me, when a drawing starts going south, you'll probably revert back to the structure to help save it. But eventually you should be able to just let it go.

Do you get any chances to draw from life? I'm not sure where you are, but see if you can find and life drawing classes around your area. Even if the teaching sucks, just being able to draw from life will help you immensely.

Keep it up dude

-Ryan

[gaboartpage]

pandawhipped:Ryan thank you very much
for your message you dude are a living
proof of practice makes better artwork
your watts thread is soooo inspiring
i take my hat :hatsoff: thanks too
for your comments i really wanted
a post from you since you are experienced
and great artist your drawings keep better
every time . . . . congratulations
ill try to continue draw from life, its
hard to do this in this non art city :gasmask:

Well now some more bad portraits
its sooo awful........ i depict the strokes with
the pencil laying down the longer part
so i can do more free movements and softer
so i can FEEL shape but look at that soft
mediocre drawings , no character not
pumped up values no nothing , i need to practice
intensity and HAIR RENDERING sooo bad >:{

but repetition and practice has helped
me in getting over it soo i will continue making
this crap until i start pulling up and getting better
of lots of drawings one will stand up i cant be
silly to think in the first approaches i will come
out with a good drawing ... ill practice, practice :painting:

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/badportraits2.jpg


Gabriel Garza

[buzzz3d]

Hey Gabriel,

I must say that I really like those portraits. They have this nice. soft sketchy feel to them.
Maybe a good thing to experiment with is to use a full page just for one face, so you have more space to work with and focus more on the shapes.

[gaboartpage]

buzzz3d: Dude thanks for your
encourangment , i will practice
what you said i have now a loooong
list of practice task from everyone
that i need to write them down :-)
everyone here is very kind Thanks again :-)

So now some more portraits . . . .
this time i focus on hair more, feel it
rather than render it so no pumped values
here nor contrast i want to keep linework
at minimum here and do planes with grays

But i couldnt hold it to see this awful
stuff and made some linework on a nude
it is crappy too but linework is comfortable
to me and kind of works sometimes

have to check that fallout too :\

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/badportraits3.jpg

tomorrow more . . . CA members: :nohope:
please feel free to RIP this crap :^^:

[jetpack42]

hair is tricky. you gotta make sure to get some speculars in there to really bring it out. all hair has it. the looseness of the lines on the lady laying down...i really dig. :blahblah: i like where all this portrait stuff is taking you. you seem to really struggle with these last few, but the ones before that were really looking better. keep up these studies...you are going far man, very far. I hear you might be going to watts for a short spell? another thing you should do...a self-portrait! the reference is all there, use it!

[gaboartpage]

jetpack42: hey whuz up
its been so long dude .. hahaha
i got your drawing today !!!!!!!
Thnaks Mike, and thanks for your
comments, the first portraits
i think are better because i spended
good time on them, i want to make
that kind of quality but in shorter time
so thats why im starting again :rendered:

Well today was one of those great
days . . .got the drawing from Jetpack42 and
Wes900 updated his thread with amazing stuff
but the amazing update by Android was toooo much
amazing Andrew you are such a GRAND PRO and
creative mind really inspiring i tought you didnt
have time but you did all portraits you just
needed to upload them !!!!!!!!!! :bow: :bow:

heres more portraits . . . .
i need to keep practicing soooo
many talented people in CA
im no one . . :zzz:

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/badportraits4.jpg

more tomorrow . . . .

[metaphysiks]

i like what i am seeing, very expressive volumes and shapes. keep up this type of drawing, and keep studying. soon enough you will have a very expressive and exciting thing going on here.
meta

[gaboartpage]

metaphysiks: Yo Chris !!! thanks
for sending a comment, it was nice
meeting you at Austin Man, i hope
you are enjoying your thunderdome crown :dur:
ill keep practicing dude, thanks again

Well today is Sparth Birthday, hope
you all send him a PM or something
cause i will :bow:
. . . have a happy birthday Sparth !!!!! :party:

now some quick doodles, to warm up
perceive roundess and get rid of straight lines

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/badportraits5.jpg

. . . . Now i value more Wes900 work
i burned myself trying to do a compo
" a la Wes " its just soooo hard to do
Besides white paper, dark stroke and
a value or two i had hell !!!!!!!
and Wesley makes such fill up of values
in all the page !!!! and 90% out of his mind
i was having headeache using reference
and only rendering noses and this fine artist
comes with different lighting situations
and amazing overall pieces . . .check
the thread NOW Wes900 (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=13996)
you gotta love those Wes900 girls renderings of eyes,
nose and lips ... simply amazing !!!! :inject:

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/wes900.jpg

mañana mas

Gabriel Garza

[GriNGo]

gabo, lo único que puedo decir es que eres una bestia para el dibujo, un arrecho!! Sigue adelante muchacho! Ya estas comensando a incitarme a que empieze a dibujar de nuevo.. jeje ;)

saludos!
GriNGoLoCo

[Jokisalo]

Oh man!! very inspiring stuff here, really liked your marker stuff and digi paintings.
This one especially coutch my eye!!!
http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/recipe.jpg

Keep it up pal!

[gaboartpage]

GriNGoLoCo: Hey que paso como estas ??
jajaja gracias por tus comentarios, pues
deberias comenzar ahorita mismo a
dibujar solo una ves que empieces
no te desanimes ni dejes de hacerlo,
por cierto tu Avatar esta conmadre !!!!!!!!
"Tenia que ser el chavo del 8" jajajajaja

Jokisalo: Dude, for those comments
like yours is what makes me continue
doing this, its all for the porpouse of
inspiration !!!!! , you keep on going too !!!!

:bounce:

Well i was watching this and noticed
i messed up!!! :x its WES9000 not Wes900
hahahahahaha, sorry dude :\

Well my backneck and arm are hurting
and i got overburned again, i dont
know how many albums i heard meanwhile
but this is for one of the best Prog-Rock
bands out there FLOWER KINGS !!!!!
also for QUIDAM too , i dont know where
i would be without this wonderful music :groupie1:

started with big face down and worked
the compo upwards to try find contrast of light
& dark "chiaroscuro" maintaining balance
contrast and dinamic compo is very very hard
guess only practice and life drawing are the key

i like asymetrical faces . . . trying to match features
in a symetrical way breaks spontaneous and charisma
of a girls face , i think . . . so be quick in laying out face
distribution so you dont loose sketchy and lively approach
by practicing a lot daily your line economy and crafstmanship
will develop in a better way . . . i think . . . my english sucks :^^;:

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/flower_kings.jpg

I havent forgot about miner robos
but Markers havent arrived at store
so maybe more figure drawing will continue . . .

Gabriel GArza

[Bojee]

Gabriel- Holy crap dude ,your progress has been amazing lately, everytime I check on you you've grown by leaps and bounds. Keep it up. How's the figure drawing going?? Is that where a lot of these are from??

[gaboartpage]

Bojee: Yo dude whuz up,
i wish i had life drawing
class again :\ all these are
photo reference
thank you for your comments,
i have a looooong roa to travel
my drawings lack of consistency
i need to develop so many things
thanks for your support :confident

Well damn it :nohope:
i was very distracted when doing
this one, made very quick layout
and missed the whole proportion
of faces, sure there are no identical
proportions but damn it they look
soooo wrong but i swear
i double checked everything

i guess my proportion " eye "
is still very amateur cause
no matter how much render
you do it will not save a drawing
if its bad placed and unproportioned >:{

well by the way i looove <3 frekles
in girls so i tried to do the effect here
but ended as spots :\

dude hiragana & katakana
are waaay too lame now ,
nobody does that anymore,
not trendy anymore :yawn:

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/frekles.jpg

:frustrated:
Gabriel Garza

[liam.c]

exelent!

[Bojee]

Gotta ask some girls to pose for you, they'd probably be flattered, and it's great inspiration to get better quick. :)

[Layil]

Hey man
I dont post much, but i check out your page everytime you update it, and i must say that your improvement lately has been nothing short of fucking awsome! Your rendered portraits are SO much better than they were just a few weeks ago. Youve been working hard, with a manaical dedication and attention to detail we should all emulate.
Its inspiring to watch you work. Keep it up, i cant wait to see what you do next!

:confident

[buzzz3d]

Wow man, you really made incredible progress the last few weeks.
Always a joy to browse through this thread.

[hito]

Mad props to you dude. These are awsome. You've inspired me to work extra this past week!

you're absolutely right about faces being asymetrical. Everyone's face is slightly different on the left and right. Perfectly symetrical face will look sort of "wrong"; some EU scientists did that once by averaging all the features of the human face and made it perfectly symetrical, the girl looked kinda pretty, but also kind of unsettling. Obvious discreptencies between the left and right will make the face look ugly. Just gotta find that sweet zone where things are asymetrical enough to be attractive.

[gaboartpage]

liam.c: THANKS !!!

Bojee: Dude thats a great idea !!!
im shy so im not very popular
and i can come up asking about it :tihi:
---but what would happen if i miss
the resemblance ill get a slap in the face :^^;:

maybe i should ask Layil she seems a good model ;)

Layil: i miss Khutulu Kitty Avatar is that yours ??? . .
i checked your portraits they are amazing dude
and in a geek comment i have to say you have
a great face structure for drawing :dur:
lots of structure and shapes hahahaha
. . . this is weird comments right ??!! . .sorry
. . . but your face is good for modeling . . .
thanks for sending a message
and giving those comments
ill keep going !!!

buzzz3d: Hey thanks for writing again
im glad you are enjoying , i hope
it helps you in some way ,
keep on you too !!!

hito: NOAH !!!! whuuuuzz up !!!!!!
hey man im thinking you are next
on my death review list hahahaha
i shall make you a visit soon on
your thread again and thanks
for your comments lets keep
pulling everyones inspiration on working
congratulations KEEP UP DUUUUUDE !!!!

well got lots of work today
so when i dont have time
LINEWORK comes in !! . .
( dont say to anyone but i buy
fashion magazines once
in a while .. . shhh )
i made a fun exercise,
NEVER LIFT PENCIL UNTIL DONE
so you get a good rythim flowing drawing
no foreshortening and practice line values

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/gautier.jpg

Now ive been doing brush ink work
for years for politics newspaper section
so why not give it a try on cute girls :^^:

This was hard to rescue composition
because i couldnt figure out
what to include where the mannequins are,
something that could hold the CHIAROSCURO
and help not loosing the two girls shapes
and enclose the girls face in middle
so i arranged some manequins
in a black - white - black - white way
. . .is still unbalanced . .
i placed a little heart to compensate
but i couldnt rescue it :S

I :heart: Japan !!!!

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/i_love_japan.jpg

muchas gracias

Gabriel Garza

[Bojee]

Gabriel- They might,it all depends on what your doing while your drawing them :wink:, but I doubt it, usually they are flattered just to be asked and we're way more critical of our own work than most people will be. give it a shot and let me know what happens. :wink:

[metaphysiks]

good job gabo. the updates were exactly what i want to see. the stuff looks real nice. keep workin on those compositions, the rendering is looking nice. keep working on it to solidify the forms and the rendering will get even niceer. study from life. keep up the good work.
meta
p.s. it was a pleasure meeting you as well sir, hope to see you again soon

[gaboartpage]

Bojee: ill let you know dude :S
i hope they dont take it the wrong
way when im watching her chest
for visual reference . . . . SLAP !!!

metaphysiks : Thanks for the support
dude ill see if i can start life drawing again
and ill keep practicing thats the only way

FINALLY got some markers so now ill
have to force the machine here , cause
people are wanting portraits and i need
to finish my project so i can go on with other stuff

heres some studies of water reflections
and environment atmosphere

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb38.jpg

and more portraits
i need to focus now on hair, cause these are awful
also i missed proportion on the big one
i guess the cross of eye nose is not well angled
with head structure , i need to start filling more values
and get better pumped grays and contrasts . . . fill all face with grays

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/badportraits6.jpg

nos vemos
Gabriel Garza

[Bojee]

Gabriel- When your drawing it's like getting a free pass to look anyway, just do a good job drawing them,and if you don't just ask for another opportunity. Your just trying to get down on paper the amazing stuff you see and then you have something to talk about afterward. Go get'em! :)

[xia]

Great value on the thumb studies!!! Two thumbs up!
Good job on those figure/ faces too.

[Dahsramu]

wow I havent checked in here for a while and you have just exploded with talent! wonderful work, man... very inspiring. you're journey is a lot of fun to watch :)

-Umar

[gaboartpage]

Bojee: ill try for sure :rendered:
and let you know the details hehe

xia: Dude thanks coming from
ya its always a good compliment but
come on dude rip some of this :)

Dahsramu: Yo Umar whuz up
thanks for following this thread
i wont stop dude ill continue until
i realize my goals , thanks thanks
for the support

Well CA members, again i have
to return to the beggining and start
over again, but now ill focus on hair

HAIR IS TRICKY i guess if you have
good craftsmanship you have more
possibilities to conquer this quest
also you need patience . . . . .

but i have to stress out again that
REPETITION is the key R E P E T I T I O N
lots of practice . . . . and once in a while
go check the CA.org mainpage :$
S**t this are awful . . . .

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/badhair1.jpg

And heres more reflections and lake
studies . . . i feel tired :yawn:

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb39.jpg

more tomorrow

[maldrin]

gabe it's all so beautiful and nothing like you were doing before.

you're proof of what hard work can do, and you're really showing how great austin was for you.

where do you find such expressive ref images? or do you just add the beauty and emotion when you draw them?? I'd love to know your secret, whichever it is! these are lovely. your abstract shapes for the miners are also really flowing nicely...I can't wait to see how you progress in both these directions.

going back to austin this weekend, for other reasons...will be thinking about the Awarehouse while I'm there!


best wishes,

maldrin

[maxetormer]

Hola tu eres el unico otro
mexicano que visto en CA :D
es bueno encontrarse con alguien
de por aqui je je, yo soy de
Xalapa Veracruz.
No tienes idea de la envidia que
te tengo porque fuiste a la convencion que
se hizo en Austin Texas, me hubiera
encantado ir.

Tienes una buena pagina de sketchs
estudios solidos y una buena idea de
volumen; necesito hacer mas
estudios pequeños como los
que tienes aqui, sobre todo de
paisajismo.

:D excelente trabajo :D

nos vemos :D keep it up :painting:

P. S. Que estas estudiando? a que universidad asistes?

[prostate sunrise]

amazing work!

[gaboartpage]

maldrin: HEY how are you dude ?
thanks for watching and for
your comments i have no trick
but heres my list hope it helps:

1-NYLON MAG: for compo
or skinny models great variety
of poses and weird fashion
also different lighting situations
and uncommon models

2-CUTIE JAP MAG: great for
hair analisis, japanese girls have
in 80% short straight hair and has
a lot of amount of street photos
with sun lighting from top
so good shape and form of hair
in this , also has hairstyle section
with same model in various angles
good for curve line analisis . . . im a geek :dad:

3-HEGRE or DOMAI: internet websites
for nude models and series, great
photographs the good thing are the series
lots of photos in different angles,
i use them for face and
anatomy analisis specially with
my favorite all time model ...LUBA !!!

I miss Austin, hope you have a good time

maxetormer: Que pasa !!! como estas
contento por que el Veracruz se armo bien
esta temporada ?!!
me estoy graduando de la real academia
de arte conceptual CA.ORG :) !!!
saludos y no dejes de pracicar

prostate sunrise: DUUUUDE thank you
i see your thread and ita F**G amazing
i like your artwork and lines , great technique
great creativity and attitude keep on !!!!!!

mmmmmm heres more badhair attemps
i wanted to fill the page but these bastards
took longer that i expected
so when i feel sad because of bad work
i come back to linework,
linework is comfortable and i wish
i someday can say this with values because
these are hell for me now . .
transform pain in pleasure

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/badhair2.jpg

More environmets for the robo miners
project im trying to nail gradient effect

i miss Austin :(

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb40.jpg

Gabriel Garza

[Syrogen]

i love the way you analyze when you draw! i also have problems with hair :{
when you render hair, what pencils are you using and are you rendering it on the point? gah i find it so frustrating. anyway, KEEP POSTING!! i love reading all your little notes

[Mike Frank]

Dude I love your thread and all these studies. Your persistence to get things right is very inspiring.

[van]

Fantastic!

[buzzz3d]

Those gradient studies are really good.

[insane visions]

hello buddy!!! just wanted to stop by and tell you that I love your work...

:O)

[gaboartpage]

Damn it light went out
yesterday for more than 15 hours !!!!!!
so no drawing for me except
this early morning sketches . .

sorry for short replies . . .

Syrogen:Thanks dude
4h - hb - 2b - 6b

Some_Guy: :-)
glad you liked the works

van: Hey thanks man
you keep working too
those color studies are awesome

buzzz3d:im glad you posted
another comment dude, thanks

insane visions: dooooooood :bow:
thanks man for watching this crap

so heres some crappy abstract thumbs

http://www.gab8.com/ca/abthumb/thumb_ab3.jpg

and here some miners family
quick doodles

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb41.jpg

Gabriel Garza

[Syrogen]

youre so dedicated and organized man, i can see you really take your time on each page. the last environment sketch is kicking a lot of ass

[jetpack42]

gabriel, I'm really proud of you man. You are really sticking with this in a big way. You've inspired me to update my sketchbook shortly. I've been drawing, but not as much as I'd like to. Not to mention, this thunderdome takes away from alot of the sketching and stuff I normally do. Hope everythings going well dude!!!!! you're definitely on the right track! I'd suggest trying to draw some from life now, apply all the practice you're doing. My hat is off to you, sir.

:hatsoff:

[maxetormer]

I agree wiht all the last commets, he he
You work like a machine :D

This last one witht the concept
desing of your own caracters its
my favortie becasue they came out
right form your own imagination
I can see that all your studies really
pay off, becase this last sheet
of caracters desing is really solid man!!!
I got interested on this miners proyect of
yours, show us more :D

keep it up!!! :painting: :painting:

siguele dibujado a este ritmo!!!!! :painting: :painting:

[gaboartpage]

Syrogen:Thanks dude im organized
because office work has molded me
for good or bad its some kind of curse

jetpack42: Mike always a pleasure to
read your comments im glad you are updating
for so long CA has pushed me to get better
and im glad im in a little way helping you
to keep on .. . good luck dude !!!
i have plans after finishing roobo miners project
of starting my anatomy studieas again and
start life drawing too ... but firsts things firsts . .

maxetormer: jaja gracias por tus comentarios
i want to have knowledge in my mind and someday
apply that without reference thats what all this
is all about Thank you for watching

and heres the family that works with
the tester miner robo "Mitty" all woman
i guess there would be just families . .

very very quick doodle feeling
the images in my mind imaginating scene
placing horizont and try nail perspective
in a freehand way overall concept of
a daily scene before work at the mine . .

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb42.jpg

not so good work but gotta keep running
the marathon until the end
more of this tomorrow
Gabriel Garza

[gaboartpage]

Another sketch of the third
and last miners family . . . .

more quick quick doodles

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb43.jpg

Gabriel

[van]

Nice value work. Really nice. :teeth:

[Keepiru]

these studies, especially the hair studies, are looking really great. Your determination is awesome, hope to see more soon ^_^!

[Yiako]

hmm.
no stars YET?? :er:

[gaboartpage]

van: Dude thank you so much
but ill try to be better

Keepiru: hey Thanks !!!
i will keep updating daily
as looong as i can, hope
i dont dissapoint you

Yiako: :$ hahaha
Thanks for your support

To all CA members and lurkers:

What a month !!!!

When i started this thread in Feb 2004
my goal was to obtain some stars
in my thread, that was in my mind
always, and after 7 months ive reached it
and i thank all of you for giving me
this satisfaction, i dont have the talent
and spirit that many members and world
artists have so i only have hard work

A month has passed since Austin
A month has passed since i started
my VERY FIRST in life finished sketchbook
A month has passed since ive met wonderful people
and learned so many things from them
A month has passed posting everyday here

and i have in this day so many things
THANKS TO CONCEPTART.ORG

so . . this is dedicated to all of you
thanks for the inspiration and the:

:star: :star: :star: :star:

i wish i could make a better illustration
to celebrate with all of you but ive got
rusty with anime manga and inking
here are 4 stars girls :D

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/4stars.jpg

Here i am doing the last page !!!!!!

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/last_page.jpg

and heres the character sheet for the families
of the miner robo project
i want to get rid of the kind of drawing like
that awful 4 stars up there , i want to rely on
understructure to depict character, sex, age,
personality, etnicy, braless boobies ;) ,etc. etc.

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb44.jpg

Gabriel Garza

[Pichuerca]

I like these doodles!

Congratulations for your threath.

Keep posting.

[gaboartpage]

Pichuerca: Muchas gracias por tus apoyo
seguire posteando, saludos

duuuudes i didnt expected this
its freaking AMAZING :$

i cant thank you guys enough
for giving another :star:

well heres fer you Ca members and lurkers
5 stars girls to celebrate this rating :party:

i used winsor & newton white ink for making
corrections and heres and advice for you
markers dont work over white ink it doesnt absorb
no matter how many passes you make :upset:

still rusty in anime manga . . . . .

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/5_stars.jpg

stupid office scanner i hate it
it never scans very well . . .
i was doing two lines and today
i made another step and made 3 lines
hope i reach a full page next time

very fast very awful very amateur
im very upset with the result but
im starting to develop a methodology

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/badhair3.jpg

more tomorrow
Gabriel GArza

[Mike Frank]

Great stuff all around Gabriel, congrats on the five stars.

[jetpack42]

congrats on the stars. you've definitely earned them. *salute*

[Jeff Jaws]

I love your studies, man. they show so much dedication and understanding. just keep that up. One question: where do you get those lovely portrait refs from? Or are they all w/o ref? Such a great expression on the girls faces. Would be nice from you to share urls - I'd appreciate it a lot. Now draw. And congrats to your stars, you really deserve them.

Jj.

[gaboartpage]

Some_Guy:Thank you for visiting

jetpack42: Salute dude !!!

Jeff Jaws: Thanks for the comments
im glad you see them with that perception
im to critic about my work so all of
this kinds of lacks of everything im
amateurish artist, no color or finished works . . . :zzz:

and well i have 3 main references
1)Nylon magazine, they have a site but i prefer
buying the magazzine

2)Peter Hegre photographer, its nude series
of gorgeous girls, not porn, good taste

3)Domai website, i think they have a link
on conceptart, its a resource of various
photographers alla peter hegre
hope it helps . . . .

heres some exercises
first without lifting the pencil
make quick overall sketches
then apply marker in a relaxed way
its fun to do but its hard to notice form

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/fasty1.jpg

heres what im searching, i want to
reach this kind of balance between
sooo few strokes and lines and depict
light and form very direct & iconographic way . .

in my very own personal point of view
i think
in this visual society we need to develop
drawings that communicate a message
direct and fast to the viewer, to reach
a level when every stroke, every colour
transmits a link to the whole message
not unnecesary detail . . . . thats what i want

and maybe thats why anime manga
has such advantage because its like a
visual data base where
you choose a combination
to depict a very direct message

BUT

im not saying its the best ...ok? just
saying an example of a good iconographic
direct style of communication . . . .

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/fasty2.jpg

[jetpack42]

those are really cool man, you use the markers in such a painterly way...i like the sketchy ones alot. were you mentioning you had trouble getting markers? i forget how much they cost, but I'd always be willing to send you some via UPS if you send me the money....I can get the Hi-Tec C pens everyone covets as well....keep workin the sketchbooks.

[elboy]

threads like this showcasing hard work and love of art provide me w/ a much needed kick in the pants to do more work. Thanks, artpagegabo.

[mentler]

Like the looseness and the way you work an idea!!
If you like anatomy check the boneyard link below!

[Mike Frank]

Hey man I really like your not picking up the pen studies, I had to try it out for myself. Then I got the crazy idea to try doing them without reference. It really forces you to think ahead and feel how your lines are wrapping around the forms you are creating. You might get a kick out of it.

[gasmask]

hey man, i just noticed ur sketchbook and im lovin the ink wash stufff u got goin on, id love to see u take some of those envrioments further with the inks, awesome stuff man.

[artkitty]

howdy :perv:

since Gabo is in the process of moving
& still has many tasteless dresses to unpack
I am posting his study for today
I hope you will enjoy! :meow:

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/wednesday.jpg

[artkitty]

this is today's study :perv:

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/thursday.jpg

[metalwinds]

hey buddy, these last 2 are lookin real nice.. . .love the line quality. keep pushin, man.. ..youre doing great. if you arent, start working large, as i suggested before.. and get really expressive with some sloppy materials. also, and i say this as a friend.. ..PLEASE shitcan the anime.. your other work is MUCH stronger and seeing the anime sketches only hurts the integrity of this great sketchbook. anyway, rock on buddy.. .anxious to see more and i hope the move goes well.. .i know mine was a pain in the ass

also, i really appreciated the pm.. . .thanks for lookin out :)

[JackalAnubis]

you doing lots of varied stuff with is great. I like your use of curved lines in the females nudes, using curved lines in the face is femine too.

[gaboartpage]

Oh S**t i came back
Moving hasnt finished yet
and its been AWFUL !!!!!
my stuff is in the new place
and im staying in the old place
in an empty room
with a bed . . . . for more
than a freaking week, maybe more,
or even worse ill have to get all
my stuff back again ARGHHHH !!!

well anyway

First i have to Thank truly to
my dear friend Kelly :meow: for posting
my sketches in this turbulent days

Dude you are awesome
and i thank you
for supporting me
just stop revealing
my personal stuff hahahaha

jetpack42 : Thanks Mike ill let you know
if i need help, your are great for being
considerate i appreciate it but i dont want to
bother you, thanks dude

elboy: Well dont kick to hard
on the fellas, just keep practicing
you can do it dude i thank you too
for watching my thread

mentler : Michael i just knew when
you started posting here it would be
a matter of time before your thread
became so fantastic, cause you are
a proffesional, and i checked your boneyard
,truly amazing, thank you for your words

Some_Guy: Dude that sounds great fun
it seems you are having a great time
these non-lifting studies are relaxing and fun

gasmask: Thank you for visiting
i will keep developing, i have much to do
thanks for your words

artkitty: >:D

metalwinds: Danny you are back !!!!!!!!
im following your advices sempai , hahaha sorry
my geek factor, dude i just got a wood thing, i
dunno the name to place paper with buldog clips
and im gonna start doing large things

:uzi: :scribble: :uzi2: kill anime ... hahaha
i know i know its just that having making
for so many years its hard to cut it off
but i will i think it would be bad to keep doing
anime and cut the rest, i think i can keep both

But its like when growing up and mature
people tend to cut branches from the childhood
or teenager days when growing as adult, why not
keep all branches of your life ???? hope it makes
sense i will keep developing my drawings and if
in the way anime falls off i wont pick it up again ok?

Thank you for watching dude

JackalAnubis: Thanks dude i used to do
(and still do sometimes) straight lines
in girls faces, its just that im still searching
so many things that i experiment, thanks !!

well im very very busy at work
and moving, soooo when no time
i summon LAZY LINEWORK haha . . . :^^;:

no lifting pencil until finishing . .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v117/sirius8/nonlifting.jpg

more soon

[gaboartpage]

Well same exercise
non lifting until end
be one step ahead

invest time on analizing photo
life reference before starting
this time i tried some value
and used pencil on the wide side
i kind of missed hip proportion:needle:

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/nonlifting2.jpg

Mo tomorrow

Saludos !!!

[gaboartpage]

Tried some loose
sketching for portraits

the procedure is:

1)loose overall circles & doodles
with a 4H pencil
2)using wide part of a 2B pencil
do overall shapes and detail
3)Do accents and corrections
over 2B without erasing with 6B
4)Kill whites between values
with an overall pass with 4H
leaving focal point in white

BUT
i missed face proportion
and angle, ITS SO IMPORTANT
to get very well depicted the
subtle angles in faces . . . .

:frustrated: i hate it i hate it
this mindtrick, my brain keeps
telling me and forcing me to
find simetry, i need to get rid
of stereotypes and see forms
and not icons or symbols . . . .

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/badportraits7.jpg

I saw in afternoon the 100M
sprint competition of womans
in Olympics and seeing Yuliya
really capted my attention, i dunno
if her technique is the best when running
but the way she moved her arms
her big leg leaps AND POWERFUL sprint
was amazing 10 - 11 seconds !!!!!!

so i made a fast sketch of the fastest
woman on earth gold medal Belarus winna !!
Yuliya Nesterenko

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/yuliya_nesterenko.jpg

Saludos a todos
Gabriel Garza

[maxetormer]

good expresion studies man!!!!
The mid trick part on the sketch page
it is pure analitic gold je je, keep em coming
:^^:

bw the studies for your Miners proyect are
really great!, i shoul do that kinda of caracter
sheets for my caracters too je je :D

[gaboartpage]

maxetormer: Hey dude im glad
it helped you if you have critiques
please feel free to tell me
Muchas gracias no dejes de dibujar

Well dudes after watching Kemp & Danny updates
i felt very inspired , i wish i could do
some of that too :needle: so im trying
to FILL ALL DRAWING with values or grays
its an important step for getting a better feeling
of form . how many of us skip rendering cheeks
and jaw muscles and bones . . cause you need
a good control and understructure understandment . . . .

but you gotta do it and stay expressive

here im trying to do fast sketchs but im rusty
i want to do strokes from top to bottom in
a very natural way and in a quick manner depict
overall pose and angles . . . practice practice practice . . .

find the hot spot and down in value all other brights . . .
i think this is an artist job to delete unnecesary information
to do a powerful image and communicate specific things . . .
oh LOOMIS i thank you for so many knowledge . . :bow:

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/bodylines.jpg

Well and heres a compo study for the robo miners project
here the ladies are taking a nude bath at the mountain lake
its very important to not do so many detail but pay
attention to atmosphere and expression, also compo
visual route -- how the viewer will travel with eyes all the compo

im no good with anatomy in mind ... im a reference addict
and still very amateur in conceptual so i have no big expectations
in this project but to finish it is my goal . . . . .

the robots are almost underwater and used as a structure
for jumping to water ... girls having fun ... and nude :D

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb45.jpg

please dont hate me for writing all this "personal diary type stuff"
its just that i enjoy writing to you CA members . . not very bad ass guy :^^;:

Mas mañana.. saludos a todos

Gabriel Garza

[steak-tron]

gabriel - I just went through all of your updates from when I was last here (which was unfortunately too long ago, it seems we all had a crazy moving shake-up to deal with). But my conclusion is - your a genius. This latest stuff is incredible! Your insatiable desire to learn everything is amazing, and we know that your desire to learn is evident because you document it all in detail. All of the entries in your "sketch diary" detail crucial considerations for artists. To take your work to the next step the artist has to have a philosophy and ideology behind every mark, I can see that so clearly in these pages and in your comments. Gabo, you sir will go far and have come a long way since Austin (but I still liked your work before then:))

this study is the shit! Angles as curves and squares instead of hatching, very innovative.
thursday.jpg (http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/thursday.jpg)

Keep pushing the boundaries like you are my friend, I'm eager to see what's to come.
-kemp

[xephon]

oh wow, gabriel...great work all around. i love your environments. this robo miners project is coming along beautifully, can't wait to see more.

[clogik]

damn u are one dedicated mofo. keep it up!

[mentler]

Drawing is a matter of finding the form and drawing lines over it.
Create values that follow the form regardless of the values you see.
Think of light and dark as shaping the forms not shading them.
Only use value to create form throw the rest of it away.
You don't need all the values ~ just the ones that help create the strongest illusion of form!!!

[Jokisalo]

öoingrionåwe.. you are insane man!!!
i love that pic where nude womans getting wet mm..
your linework is stunning, its floating! :$

[gaboartpage]

steak-tron: Muchas gracias Kemp
im glad you are back dude, your
updates are awesome very insprational
i thank you for your word support
You keep on going to . . Saludos !!!!

xephon: Wow thanks :) i hope i dont
dissapoint you, im nervous about it
and its been soo long since ive done
a finished drawing . . . .

chaotic logik: Dude you better keep
it up too cause its so F**ing cool art
you have on your thread your linework
is strong, keep on !!!

mentler: Michael
Thank you . . . i had to read several
times this text of yours and it all makes
sense but i think this will be kept in the back
of my mind only by practice ill get to pull
these concepts into top surface .. .. Thank you again
hope you are doing fine with your class .. .
tell us about your dvds ok??

Jokisalo: haha cool dude glad you are
enjoying ill keep up you too

Between moving and office
i dont have many time :upset: . . . i wanna draw !!!!!!!!

here is more portarits im still
trying to practice feeling form and
try to fill all with values . . why?
because i want shines to pop up
and serve as focal point and the like
also looking for fall out

Sh**t this small subtle angled face poses
are killing me . .its veeery hard to
find a spot where its not symetrical boring
like 90 degree front face pose but little angled and rotated . . its hard

and add the face imperfections like eyes not totally
aligned wich is very common and make it look good
not plastic or unorganic . . . . dunno

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/badportraits8.jpg

Im no one to say this but it will be good
if we could give help to the finished artworks
sub -forum of helpful critiques

like one critique per day would be nice

when i entered CA as a Lurker i got responses
and one of them was Jason Manley telling me
some intersting points of view i still treasure today
he gave me a great guidance in so short comment

lets help !

Gabriel Garza

[prostate sunrise]

i envy your line.

[hito]

Gabo man you :ar::ao::ac::ak:!

Love the portrait studies. Saving all of them. Thanks for the gargantuan comment dude.

You planning on going to the San Fran workshop man? I'm still trying to get finances. When are you gonna be heading to Watts?

[OSIRIS]

I just checked out your whole thread. I'm digging your style man, I especially like the lady faces. nice stuff!!!

[bleistift]

very very cool stuff you got in your sketchbook!

i like your style and your understanding of things!
its also very inspriring to see your comments on the paper and to read your
afterthoughts to every drawn page

thx for sharing this!

EDIT: forgot something:
this may have been asked allready, how much hours do you draw daily?
do you have some kind of shedule? like today is cars day and tomorrow hot asian chicks with knifes?

[Layil]

[/QUOTE]
Im no one to say this but it will be good
if we could give help to the finished artworks
sub -forum of helpful critiques

like one critique per day would be nice
[/QUOTE]

There is a place like that! Jason and Co opened this up recently
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=59

its dedicated to just that, hardworking artists in search of honest critques! i think youd feel right at home. just be sure to link us every time you put up a finished piece so we can be sure to know and go have a look!

im not posting much, lurking alot lately, but im following your progress and ive gotta say your an inspiration and your hardwork is definately showing!! keep at it, and we'll be hard on your heels following your example.
:hatsoff:

[gaboartpage]

Yo !!!

prostate sunrise: and i envy your talent dude
you are such amazing creative mind i dig
your renderings and sketch pages
, good luck on thunderdome

hito: Noah !!! dude thanks
saving my images is such an amazing
compliment . . . . im planning on going
to the workshop but i have first other things
and people to consider . . .before deciding
and for watts i wanna go right now !!!!!
ill let you guys know

OSIRIS: Thank you for watching entirely
i hope my texts didnt bored you

bleistift: Thanks for reading those notes
im glad it inspired you
and well i have some kind of schedule :

9am - wake up eat something
9:30am - start drawing a page or doodles hear music
1:30pm - always finish a page if more its great :)
2:00pm - get bath , feed dog, eat lunch
4:00pm - work at newspaper, check PMs & conceptart
12:00am - out of work & take taxi get home dinner & draw doodles
2:00am - sleep :yawn:

yep thats my schedule :\ . . adding some
more hours on free days for longer works,
good chat time, and some visits out in civilization
is basically my life . . . :^^;: . . .now i miss Austin more . .

its important to have daily goals like
no matter what do a page of something
if i have time at office breaks i do more doodles
but morning work is crucial . . . . . NO TV !!!! thats a killer

Layil: Yo Girl !!! i saw you started a new thread congratulations
its amazing work , but dont forget about us dudes
and keep doing self portraits too !!!
Thank you thank you for your words im glad
my thread is helping in something . . . . dont
forget the self portarits :rendered:

Made some Lifedrawings at last

heres Jorge at the office checking Eatpoo

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/jorge.jpg

For the ones who met him at Austin here it is . . . Chuy !!!
watching olympics at the office

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/chuy.jpg

another badportrait
I want to fill all with grays !!!!
i want to reach it sooo bad . . . .
I need to get rid of my fear and pump up the contrasts . .

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/badportarits9.jpg

Heres a sketch study for
another compo for the robo miners
project . . here is when they find a dead cyborg
that falled from a hole up the cave . .
not so happy with this i dont have good
control over my mind drawings and renderings . . .

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb46.jpg

This has been not so happy days for me
Thank you guys for checking my thread

Saludos a todos

Gabriel

[maxetormer]

To construct rocks acurattley you
need to thing of em in prespective
just like any other objet, do a simple
plane study before rendering, use some
V. points, model it like if i were the planes
of a face.

The last one is a little to flat, because there
is not a good separation betewen the foreground, and
the backgorund rocks, you values are to similar on
all the rocks, hence the lack of deep.

(use the ideas you got form you erlier studies of caves
with markers, remember, simpler is better :D)

The portraits are looking real nice dude
keep churnig out more, I liked your shedule,
I work on the mornigs and sketch at nite
the inverse of yours he he.

P.S. congrast on the 5 stars dude :D you
certanly deserve em :D, perhaps one day
ill ern mine, he he. Keep up the inspiring studies
man. :confident
:star: :star: :star: :star: :star:

chido, felicidades!!!! nos vemos luego.

[gaboartpage]

maxetormer: Hey thanks you are absolutely right
ill try make it better , thank you for
your sencere comments . .
entendido y anotado disculpa la respuesta
corta pero ando apurado . . .

well gotta go fast this modem sucks
and people are getting out of truck
the fridge and beds sooo this is
fast studies of value light

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/body_doodles2.jpg

More tomorrow

Gabriel Garza

[gaboartpage]

Heres more spots

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/body_doodles.jpg

mo tomorrow

[gaboartpage]

mmmmmm

dammit i crossed the line
i think this ended like a mess
lost contrasts with background
and other things . . have to develop
a methodology . . .and practice more

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/badportraits10.jpg

Photo was small so
detail is kind of wrong . .
searching for an overall feel
and fill all page with grays

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/badportraits11.jpg

Again messy proportion
and rendering of cloth

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/badportraits12.jpg

practice . . practice . .practice . . :painting:

Gabriel Garza

[maldrin]

gabe - don't beat yourself up too much, dude...we love ya! you can't get too down or I'll have to fly over there and smack you around a bit - you're too good to be complaining about your art! you're doing amazing, and I'm sorry your days haven't been super-good with the move and all. I'll be thinkin about ya, and I hope it'll be getting much better soon.

I love the pic of the miners finding the fallen cyborg...the lighting is really nice. you can always refine these images later - you've got to let the pendulum swing back and forth a bit - venture into "too free" and "too tight" from time to time, it won't bite ya. :)

the port of chuy is great! and thanks for the reminder about the helpful critiques forum. awesome nose on the last drawing just before my post, too!!

Chin up, you're a wonderful dude, very generous and talented - keep up the good work!!

maldrin

[liam.c]

man i hate pencils but you and wes make me want to use one all the time .. exelent updates :teeth:

[Syrogen]

hoooly crap, those studies of the women on the beach are very good, you really hit the realistic values correctly

[REAU]

wow this is an amazing sketchbook

[gaboartpage]

maldrin:Thanks dude !!!
its just that im all alone
i have no one behind me to teach me
and i have no one in front of me to follow
i only have a far light in horizont that is CA.org

So if i dont push myself i will not reach my dreams
but ill try to behave :rolleyes:

liam.c: Hey really?? but your stuff
is sooo amazing !!!
i hated pencil too until
i went to Austin and met
Metalwinds and Wes9000
when i saw those sketchbooks
i tought i got to do pencil work too !!!!!
you keep up buddy , great work

Syrogen: Thanks im glad you enjoyed
the naked lady :) ill do more . .

REAU: muchas gracias , im glad you enjoyed

More badportraits . . the bad thing
of doing front views is symetry !!!
no no no no . . . . the eyes are wrong closed
in the edges . and again faces are not perfect
but is soooo hard to find the right spot
but "normal" girls are fun to draw

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/badportraits13.jpg

Well she is cute, she knows how to kick
she is a bronce medalist in Athens
and she is Mexican .. Iridia Salazar
is a charistmatic athlete and good model

Tae Kwon Do beautie

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/iridia_salazar.jpg

Can i make a comment on daily post?

Well i know that many many members
of CA draw daily but dont post daily
because of many reasons, but what
i wanted to say is that posting daily
gives you a different edge. . .
why is that ??? . .

first . . you have the pressure to have
a deadline of time and quality daily

second you see your work published
and beleive me it looks different
than in your sketchbook , your mind
starts to see the errors because of
comparison to others so it helps
on improving your craftsmanship

third ...is more like a feeling
of being with others at your side
working with you, like a classroom

maybe i dont post much on others
threads but i see them and i feel
like a good competition and inspiration

just my point of view :yawn:

Saludos
Gabriel Garza

[Keepiru]

Hey Gabo,
You blow me away my friend, your drawings are beautiful, and you masterfully handle that charcoal. Your linework is genius and nothing less, Im especially drawn to the sketches where you dont pick your hand up from the page, they are incredible. You are, it seems, a little too doubtful of yourself. We are all our own worst critic, I know that Im guilty, but you are very talented and have made huge progressive steps in your technique, enough to make drawings that REALLY stand out, and thats something! Sometimes your even out your grays or slightly mess things, but Im sure we ALL do this, or at least thats what I have found. Hell, I shouldnt even mention these things, they are minor, I was just trying to make the point that sketches are not precious so maybe dont be so hard on youself, because you are extremely skilled and a huge inspiration!
Also something I love about your thread is your in-depth explanations of how you work, they have really gotten me to start considering how I work and think, and how I can better myself. There is a whole philosophy that each of us has to examine, and you articulate it so well, it is very helpful in organizing my ideas and feelings about the stuff that I make. I appreciate it, man. Keep it up!

[gaboartpage]

Keepiru: Gracias , very kind words man
im grateful im doing a little thing
for others like all of you are doing for me
. . i will keep on and continue trying
to become a better artist someday
thanks for watching

Well one thing when doing
to much reference work
is that you start doing pretty pictures
and less ANALISIS OF FORM thats because
you are worried on your craftsmanship
and not on your mental dissection of things and light

so better do one reference, and then from
my imagination, so you will face real problems
of rendering and analizing your work . . .
compo, lighting, direction, reflected light . . etc etc . .

quick sketches ..developing steps of rendering
and start to feel shape see accents . . .gotta keep practicing
on making more contrasts to depict changes in planes
and dont rely so much on line strokes . . .

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/body_doodles3.jpg

Heres another compo for the miner robo project
some lady painters are doing a landscape
of the mine meanwhile workers are. . well working :^^;:

the little squares are compo doodles, trying to find
something good for the eye . . very difficult
to keep in mind all of the BALANCE and COMPO EYE FLOW
theory from Master Loomis . . . just keep practicing
and it will come up . .

again Austin theory of Scott Robertson and Sparth on
atmosphere , distance and importance of values . . .

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb47.jpg

i demand 36 hour days !!!!!!!!!! >:{

Gabriel

[Layil]

Gabriel

These last few pieces show alot of improvement, even if you dont see it yourself. Im my worse critic too and only see what im doing wrong with each piece, but trust your loyal fans, the improvement is there!

im especially inspired by the last piece, the comp sketch of the robots. I get so overwhelmed every time i have to put together a finished illustration, not knowing where to begin.... Coming to your thread helps me remember to take baby steps, be methodogical and keep it simple! you have a gift for breaking things down into digestible chunks. Youll be a great teacher someday!

Dont lose heart. You may be alone, but were all here cheering you on.
:^^:

[Icey]

love all your stuff!! great work!

[Friso]

Same here.
I woke up unmotivated, then I saw your work and now suddenly I want to draw.
Its good stuff, Im looking forward to the next update.

[liam.c]

last one witht he thumbs is realy realy good

[hito]

Keep Rocking Gabo. Love those figure sketches, Luba Luba Luba. Only thing is the figures seem a little stocky... I think the width and the height relationship isn't quit right for her figure. The height proportions are right on the mark though.

Its great reading your notes, very insightful. I'm learning as much from those as I am from studying your drawings. Your do one ref with one form imagination comment hit especially close to the mark.

PS. Analysis is spelled with an Y, analisis is something else entirely. >:D

[gaboartpage]

Layil: ahhh dude thats so sweet . .
thanks Layil for your support
im happy :rendered:
keep practicing dude
i know you have good talent,
and i have this thing of explaining
because i gave drawing courses
at university 4 years ago
Thanks again and
good luck on your week project !!

Icey: muchas gracias,
thanks for watching

psyloco: go ahead dood grab
some media and paper
ans start making works !!!!
you can do it just
dont let inspiration go ,
good luck

liam.c: Dude you are visiting
so soon i feel bad
i havent posted something
on your thread
ill keep on, you too !!!!

hito: Hahaha Noah thats hilarious
.. sorry dude im not good
with english grammar
ill try to check better ok?
Yeah you are right about
her measures, she
is so perfect i think is
an insult hahaha but its
so hard not to do curved
longed lines having
such reference,
Luba is my favorite Net model :D

Noah keep up man
your updates keep better
everytime, and beleive
me try to change between
reference mode and imagination mode . . .

Well more bad hair and body doodles
not very happy with this crap . . .
used linework because its easy

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/body_doodles4.jpg

Heres another illustration compo doodles
here girl miners except one brother
are painting the robo lips,
ya know its a girls time stuff

used letter "s" for face arrangement of characters
im searching for fallout and ambience effect
need more A N A L Y S I S hehehe

they have a direct spotlight
from a robo behind them ...
also the background has to mold
in composition to the foreground subject
to make more visible the shapes . .

one way to find where the projected shadows
and hot spots of light would be
is to change the camera view
. . like try to be the LIGHT CAMERA
as if we are looking
from the "light bulb"
we are the light source
so shadows will look plane
but you will know
where they will fall
. . ok? just some crazy ideas

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb48.jpg

mo tomorrow

[liam.c]

damn you gabo ! i ruined another keyboard with drool !>.<
:P new levles i come back many times to your recent updates is really good thanks for posting them

[mentler]

Really like to watch the way your mind works.
Like your multiple little figure things and especially the sb's.

[nardfrog]

dood, you fine arts pimp!!! your drive inspires me!

[gaboartpage]

liam.c: thanks !!!!!!!! dude
thanks for the support

mentler: Michael thanks im always
re-reading your comments , you are
really talented and proffesional
ill keep on

nardfrog: Dude your stuff is great
saw your website, really cool

Damn it , i got caught in a spiral
doing these sketches is making me
to compromise on doing good stuff
so sometimes is hard to me to keep
up the expectations . . . ill relax and
start some experiments . . . so
i can have fun a little more

No matter how much you render
or do detail in a drawing
if the proportions are AWFUL
the drawing be awful !!!!

i missed alll the proportions on this one
why???
because its supposed to be quick sketch
not a semi all rendered thing . . thats
why im mad at this one . . . . >:{

the eye is all messed up ..horrible
the good part is that im covering more
with grays . . .wich is the main exercise
oh damn it i dont even understand myself . . . :frustrated:

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/badportraits14.jpg

Saludos

[jetpack42]

:aw: :at: :af: is going on in here?!

this is nuts dude. I LOVE IT! I haven't been on CA too much lately, but you are really going far in a short period of time.

Just dropping in to say "keep going man"..you're running the race very well.

[azmanayob]

like your art very much, especially those never-lift-up-pencil thingy. i will try doing it. must be fun.
keep posting.

[Bojee]

:aw: :at: :af: is going on in here?!

this is nuts dude. I LOVE IT! I haven't been on CA too much lately, but you are really going far in a short period of time.

Just dropping in to say "keep going man"..you're running the race very well.

Gabriel- I agree with JP, I don't say this enough but your a constant inspiration, keep it up man, you help to motivate a lot of people! People look at your work and say " If I bust my ass and try hard look what's possible". Keep it going Dude!
My favorite stuff your doing right now are the compositional studies and the portraits but love that your working on it all. When you going to start picking up the paints again?? Have you asked any girls to pose for you yet? :wink:

[gaboartpage]

jetpack42: Mmmmike thanks dude
i hope everything went well with thunderdome
thanks you for all your support

azmanayob:Yeah dude try it, its great fun
also you come up with good rythim flow in linework
cause there are not many perpendiculars

Bojee: thanks thanks thanks
dude im glad you like the works,
i want to keep on all i can, i only have
hardwork no talent like you guys so have
to keep on . . .lots of sacrifices . . . .
i havent do the draw girls stuff . . damn im useless
but i will i swear i will .. hahaha

trying to combine pencil rendering and markers
very very quick

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/fash1.jpg

I have to be quicker than this because
the objective is to BLEND SHADES in markers
when they are wet so theres a transition
between light and shadow
try not to put unwanted values in unwanted places
like a #1 marker in the MASS SHADOW AREA and the like

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/fash2.jpg

Gabriel

[arghmisfit]

wow man i really like ur thread!! lots of talent here

very inspiring also :)

ill stay tuned

-argh

[gaboartpage]

arghmisfit : Glad you liked it
ill keep updating too

Well before posting i have to
recccomend a thread
very very inspiring !!!!!

its a kick in the butt
it was some kind of knock out

damn it this guys practice 10 hours a day
wonder why they are such pros !!!!
i wanna work 10 hours too !!!!!

thanks MIKECORRIERO keep up dude
dont let go your goal !!!

kick my butt please (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=28912)

gotta find the spot where i keep having fun
and practice things even
if i dont enjoy too much . .
now less text more action

show me dont tell me

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/badhair4.jpg

repetition, practice, repetition, practice
more more more more . . .!!!!!!

GG

[xephon]

I'm loving the comp thumbs you did on the 29th for your robo miners project...so very nice. regarding your other updates, your vigilance and persistant curiosity and self-education is something to behold! keep it up..

[bRyaN]

Dude you are rockin these sketches hard core....

keep me occupied with more...

[liam.c]

your knockin my sox off :) consistantly lately :)
i read that post too hehe but shiz i allreddy do it 8 to 16 hours a day lol ,lol did you read the enworld thing inside the post ? is funny and jasons respoponce was enough to get alot of people going i htink :)
i think your doing a good pace now :)
oh not shure waht order your doing but pencil verry verry lite befor and heaver after the marker works well helps cleen up lines/shapes and such

[gaboartpage]

xephon: Thanks dude im glad
compo is reading well for now
i still have to make more before
start the finished pieces

bRyaN: Yes sir ill go on
and keep this updated daily

liam.c: Yo dude whuz up !!
well that thread is in my head
lately ill read it all again
cause is something to think about
dude :hatsoff: you practice a lot !!!!
congratulations keep up dude i send you
all the good energy, keep up
if someday we wanna be like those guys
on CA mainpage we need to keep up ok?

well i was talking to a friend
who is an amazing craftsmanship with
graphite he has a very amazing finish
very smooth renderings BUT he told me
he draws what he sees like draw the tones
and he has trouble SEEING the form, feeling it

applying understructure knowledge. . . .

thats true for many of us
asking ourselves why is this shadow here?
why is this skin tone saturated
what makes this contrats on eyes . .etc . .

and the most important question of all:
CAN WE DRAW THIS WITHOUT REFERENCE??

feel light, feel form, touch with the eyes . . .
the first two line doodles are more like
zig zag approach going down
very sloowly . .third one is furious ups and downs

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/body_doodles5.jpg

This is a sketch doodle on the next
robo compo ... use perspective for
human robot proportion and depth
search for a cyclical focal point compo

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb49.jpg

Gabriel

[liam.c]

you got it gabe :)!
nice update as usual :)
i have a friend like that as well .. his maker renderings <well thay are more like paintings with marker really damn nice>are soo tight and cleen to a photoreal levle but he has the same problum at some point he stoped even trying with out a photo ,wich was sad really as he had alot of potental befor he started usning so much refrence for a shor ttime i got him to keep a seprate sketch book with out refrence i tryed to get him to work on the application of waht he was seeing and doing when he had refrence but it only lasted for him for a short time and he went back to photo refrence only <but at least he started using his own photos >
for me i rarely if ever use refrence unless its from life sketches <and i should use them more i think > i think the best way is if studying make to set about to pick some ting up with the photo use and drectly after do some thing fun<with out refrernce> and apply it <fun usualy =solidifying into practical memory>same when do any type of studys make shrue to apply it after and you will get waht your going for
as for the work and the finished pice for shrue hell yah use refrence no question you better because the other guy damn shure is going to and it will bring it to the next levle

keeping mindfull of waht your doing is probly the bigest help .. so you dont midlessly copy ,you can however ithink
copy to have no mind in the end .. but mindless and with out mind <or thinking >is 2 diffrent things

any method i think with practice over time <in any disciplin>will produce results <thats why after 4 years you get a degree ,,cuz any idiot should be able to do the job waht ever it is after 4 years of doing it >but some methods lend them selves better to faster more accelerated learning

any way good stuff man cant wait to see more !

[Molly]

Gabriel,
The drive you have within yourself for your art, is amazing.
If I had an ounce of that personal drive you have, I'd be a better artist.
I love the contour-style-lines you got going on in ur sketches, especially the one near the top - er 'keep-pencil-on-page-till-pic-is-finished' one - you know what i'm chatting about!

I love dropping by here, theres so much to see and enjoy!

(I dont need to tell you to keep at it? You always will...)

Mollyx

[flex mathews]

awesome work man... i enjoyed everything. i love your contour lines. simply amazing.

[gaboartpage]

liam.c: absolutely right dude
its a matter of brainwash i think
to flip between reference mode and imagination mode

also a very important issue is
that for example all of this thread
reference drawings except the life drawing
are not 100% mine... why because
its an interpretation of another artist vision
a photographers vision . . . .
keep up you too and thanks again

Molly: Thanks dude for dropping a message
you keep up too, show some us some mo
of that Berlin magic :wink: your artwork
is improving Molly , just keep up ok?
wish you the best of Lucks !!!!

flex mathews: Wow dude i like your work also
hope everything is going well with your paintings
thanks for watching

Heres some linework
it went wrong . .why ???
well i pushed too much the outside contour
and ended flattening everything
no balance . . . it distracts the eye
and besides this dress and ackward perspective
were difficult choice and bad one too it looks
like lots of different issues pasted in a wrong way . . .

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/non.jpg

Mo exercises on filling everything with grays
im having troubles with lips and nose because
of cartoon or line treatment they look out of place . . .

gotta keep practicing more and more and more . . .

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/badpor.jpg

More later

[gaboartpage]

First one is made in normal process
line doodle with a 4h graphite
general tones with HB
and accents with 2B

BUT

the nexts are in a new way
i kind of liked more ... .
its doing the mass shadow
in a single step with HB
like in the second one
the third is adding 2B
for hair value and skin accents
also the big one is made like this,
NO LINEWORK
this is good for making crisp shines
or light areas . . .it depicts a better
tone approach of skin and hair
and separates better the planes and shapes . . .

BUT

i need to practice this more
because it spends a loooot
of mental energy doing this approach
its exhausting for me now
. . . . without linework
you have to imagine
the limits and depict with
a secure pencil stroke

Lips on that went to crap !!! >:{

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/value_doodles.jpg

Gabriel

[Groover McNab]

Man, Gabo, you are a machine! Your diligence in drawing and analyzing your own work is really great to watch. Your sketchbook has really become one of my favorites :hatsoff:

[gaboartpage]

Groover McNab: OH really !!! thats
great dude thanks you, ill keep up

Well mo practice with values
its the same as the previous
hair studies , the awful thing
is that now im starting face rendering too

it consumes a lot of mental energy
because hair is more loose, miss a line
and nothing really bad happens

BUT

miss a line in face and you send
it straight to the trashcan . . and
add that theres no linework to follow :dead:

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/value_doodles2.jpg

kind of "cleaned" the last sketch but its soooo
crappy im mad at this, no depth no nothing !!! >:{
So F***ng plane AHHHHHH doenst read well . . . . >:|
didnt planned very good the lightsource and began
placing values randomly so it lacks consistency . .

http://www.gab8.com/ca/ksteamb/ksteamb50.jpg

gotta keep practicing MORE MORE MORE
everyone is pushing hard !!! go go go
GG

[mentler]

I can say all the same things you said about this drawing about El Greco
and his work ain't bad either!!

[REAU]

Nice studies the values in those faces are very well done.

[xia]

Yes! Nice value study on face...inspired me. Yes!

[gaboartpage]

mentler: Michael thanks for your support
but i know you can rip this sketches down
so if you have more of those great critiques
or comments go ahead

REAU: im glad they register well to you
ill keep improving there are so many things
to better up

xia: Really?? go ahead dude you have
such inspiring thread, and by the way
i like a lot your quote about aquint , solid gold :-)

I try to wake at 9 am and start these but
after doing first three i start feel soooo sleepy
this exercises consume my energy a lot !!!!

thats why ive been doing so little lately
cause these bastards drain lot of gas :zzz:

nothing more sexy than a girl in night dress :}

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/value_doodles3.jpg

ill keep on

[gaboartpage]

No matter how much rendering
you do . .or cool sparks and sh**t
if it doesnt have a good understructure
its crap . . hey she even has a pig hand . . :^^;:

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/pig_hand.jpg

ill practice more . .. .. .. work harder, HARDEEEER !!!!!

[Bojee]

No matter how much rendering
you do . .or cool sparks and sh**t
if it doesnt have a good understructure
its crap . . hey she even has a pig hand . . :^^;:
ill practice more . .. .. .. work harder, HARDEEEER !!!!!

Gabriel- Hey I see the mistakes too, especially cause you pointed them out, but I like the drawing. I'm not sure what your shooting for in your drawing but sometimes the mistakes make the piece. :teeth: You got my vote for most improved by the way. Keep it up dude, and enjoy the ride too. :P

[insane visions]

you are doing well dood:)

[mentler]

You have to add the expressive aspect to hands in most poses!
Artist that do great hands do not draw the hands in the pose!
They separate the figures and create some interested movement!
motion creates emotion!

[gaboartpage]

Bojee: OH! man thanks for vote, but
i guess Ryan, Kemp and MCM are much
much better to this .. thanks
ill try to enjoy more when drawing . .
but pain and suffering
is good too . . . so the heart doesnt cold up
and when things get sweet you value them most
always a pleasure dude thanks for writing . .
you dude have improved a loooot i always
check life painting thread :-)

MIKECORRIERO: Wo Mike !!! thanks dude
i check your stuff too !!! i love those creatures
and characters , im glad you wrote :-)

insane visions: Doood you have a radar or something
cause you are always very precise to write
some words when im down, ill freaking cry dude
you are a great inspiration of hard work to me dude
and now that you have less time because of work
i appreciate this words, you keep up too !!!!!!!

mentler: Master Michael, coming from you
this is a great thing to remember in my head
it sounds easy but true, ive been checking
your drawings on hands and feet ill give it a try
and practice more . . thanks again

Well when im lost
i always return to the start
and travel again the road
making importance in face
layout or cross in eyes & half
REMEMBERING that this cross
can bend when face rotates ok?

muscle and bone will give the correct
beat to dance this faces melody . .
oh man how i missed linework studies . . .
Egg Shape - - Design - -Rythim -- Angles --
Emotion -- Practice & Repetition

http://www.gab8.com/ca/extra/understructure1.jpg

Mo tomorrow dooooods