Battle(update Feb 24)

[Joeslucher]

I stopped working on this a month ago. I'm thinking about going back and finishing it if I can get some direction
and advice. The chick is going to have some crazy aura beginning to radiate from her. It's barbarians versus knights.
http://illustrations.00freehost.com/images/bar.gif

[SEVANS]

There are alot of anatomy problems in this piece. I like the idea but the anatomy is throwing it off.

I would suggest redrawing (tracing) and fixing your basic anatomy flaws.

A couple of the areas that look incorrect to me are:
The arms on the bearded figure at the front.
The head of the knight glancing upwards (too flat).
The arm (holding axe) on the barbarian with the shield.

I'm not being nasty, but no matter how well you shade and blend etc it will not hide basic anatomy problems. So to make a truly strong piece, you must have the basic shapes correct first.

I see alot of potential here - play with it, adjust it and finish it.

[Joeslucher]

Thanks for the suggestions and don't worry I'd prefer you be nasty. That's what helps not pats on the back. Need more conceptart members like you who don't just reply to the good pieces. I agree with you on those points, especially the barbarian closest to screen. I think I decided the composition is what made me drop it so I may make it much more horizontal or much more vertical. As it is, it stinks.

Thanks again,
Joe

[Happy Camper]

The chicks ass is too square, it looks like a guys ass, make it rounder with softer shadows. I agree with Sevans comments. Good luck with the rest of the pic :chug:

[Joeslucher]

I redid the drawing. Here's part of it.
http://illustrations.00freehost.com/images/red.gif

[Joeslucher]

It looks terrible.
http://illustrations.00freehost.com/images/barb.gif

[SeraphSword]

My only real crit would be that there doesn't seem to be enough depth. Most of the characters seem to be about the same size on the paper, despite the distance from one another. Plus, if the guy on the right is supposed to be looking at the girl, she's either very small or would otherwise be a bit too far behind him too be seen at that angle. Still, it's a very interesting idea that just needs some more time and effort.

[Joeslucher]

Yeah there's no way the guy on the right can see her, I just wanted it to look like those two guys are looking over their shoulders or turning around. I came up with a shortcut to fix the composition that I will hopefully post in the next couple of weeks and am putting more thought into the coloring, For instance the barbarians are probably from a cold area and would be cold adapted which means they might have lighter skin and lighter hair to absorb sunlight since most of their skin is normally covered.

[Jworion]

This scene would be way cooler if it had some perspective. Maybe take the view point of someone looking up at the loating girl and have all the other barbarians and knights around fighing each other. Get some references for the anatomy and such.. they will definitly help.

[Chris Beatrice]

This piece is very ambitious, and may cause you a lot of headaches to get right. But it has a lot of potential if you stick with it. I concur with the comments that have come before, namely, there are significant anatomy / form problems, and all the figures seem to be located on the same plane (i.e. they're all equidistant from the viewer). This almost looks to me as if it is a collage of several different photos, particularly the female figure in the air. Maybe not, but that's what it looks like.

I would suggest biting of a smaller challenge at this point. It's very tempting to undertake something like this but you'll learn faster if you proceed in smaller steps.

[Joeslucher]

Chris- Yeah I don't think I'm going to continue this mainly because of composition. The first drawing was done with no reference. The second drawing was done from a 3d scene I set up in poser so I know that the space is correct.

[Chris Beatrice]

Hey, cool, you've obviously got a lot of passion for this stuff. Don't ever lose that.

Just to clarify, I didn't mean that the space wasn't "correct", just that it's reading very flat. There's not much movement in and out of the space, that's all.