Where can I get a good painter 8 tutorial?

[Junior Mints]

I've been trying to work with Painter 8 (I'm a photoshop guy) and I'm finding it difficult to get used to. I'd like some tutorials, but NOT necessarily on how to use Painter, but rather the process one goes through to create a painting.
Here is the piece i attempted:
http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17048
not too good :(
I looked at some tutorials here, but there is only 1 or 2 of the type i;m looking for. I want to know the process to achieve a painting, not color theory or pencil sketching or something.

This is the tutorial I really liked:

http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13511

Here is another tutorial I WISHED would work, but it doesn't... the end result looks really cool though and im looking to see how he made it.

http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=866

I just want to see more tutorials of this type

Thanks for your help :)

Cheers :chug:

[Ryu]

Hi,
i know it's not really a tutorial,
but the book by don seegmiller,
digital character design and painting is really good,
and he uses painter (v7 but it's the same for v8)

hope it'll help,

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[CIM]

You'll find a couple of good tutorials here: http://www.khangle.net/tutorials.htm