DSG 350: Scene: Future Noir

[dsg bot]

Today's topic is: Scene: Future Noir

[Hagac]

http://www.angelfire.com/art2/hagaart/images/CityHAGA.jpg

[OLSEN]

Nice one Hagac.

http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v31/ksm_olsen/18803203.jpg

[kaptah]

Good pictures up there.
http://www.sannahellstrom.com/cg/future_noir.jpg

[Gumdrop]

Hey cool... it's one of my suggestions. Does this mean I'm obligated to participate? I'm off out, but I'll try to do something later on.

*Note to self: Try to stay sober tonight.*

Hagac - Love the anamorphic look. Real gritty.

OLSEN - great brushes and shadowy characters.

kaptah - Sweet. Overcoats and rain!

[digitalgannon]

ooooooo this will be fun- my post will be up soon. Good so far guys lets see some more from the rest of you!
these links may help to get the ball rolling:
http://www.filmsite.org/filmnoir.html
http://www.martinsfilmnoir.com/
http://www.noircinema.com/Stills.asp

[S.C. Watson]

Thanks for posting those links, Digital. I saw todays topic and drew a blank, so having some sort of ref will help!

Plus, now that I think about it, there's always Blade Runner, but I don't have time to watch it today.

[Swoop]

So far i love all the images. Especially kaptah.. good atmosphere.
I'm no good with painting in colors (nor bw), but gicing it a show later after practice. Just need to take a snapshot of the lines from paper, and see what happens :D Hope it's gonna work out.. no scanner.

Love noir mood :D

BTW awsome brushes on OLSENs, and i really loved yours Hagac.. perhaps because that was how i was first picturing this topic painted :D :D :D

[Catapult Beetle]

An attempt at quickpainting.

http://img20.photobucket.com/albums/v60/CatapultBeetle/futurenoir.jpg

[GraphicMaster]

Wow, some really great stuff so far.
http://www.graphics-lab.com/sketch013.jpg
I'm not sure if i like mine, the whole future comeputer screen wasn't turning out like i wanted it to... oh well.

[OLSEN]

Thanks for the comments, but the brush i used is a preset brush found in painter8, so i cant´really take any credit for it. The brush is called scratchboard rake, give the brush a try if you have the program, it´s great fun. :)

[Hazzard]

http://aaronsart.5u.com/images/futurenoir_copy.jpg

Heres mine. 5 mins in photoshop with the distraction of an annoying girl!

[Sunny]

i dont think this is good, maybe ill do another one later..

http://www.planethalflife.com/detailed/new/dsg/350.jpg

[GK Smith]

Hazzard's sketch influenced me to work really quicky and entirely in photoshop. No pencil drawing this time. This took me about 20 minutes.

http://www.gksmithstudios.com/My Portfolio/FutureNoir.jpg

[Matt Smith]

Here is mine, i did it fast in photoshop 40 mins maybe. I did a fast one cause I might be busy with a freelance job later on, if im not busy though i may do a another one.

http://www.mattksmith.com/blacknoir.jpg

[awalloffire]

http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v20/awalloffire/DSG/DSGnoir.jpg

[Carnifex]

dunno if this is very futuristic,but i've gotta study hard to master environments with interest...
http://img1.photobucket.com/albums/1003/fisite/futureNoir.jpg
they're much harder to do than characters imo,bc you cannot say "this thing has this function,so it must be there".a stone can be anywhere in a landscape and have no function at all....that's one reason i find environments so hard to do.

[Hazzard]

GKSmith id never worked in black and white before now and the lack of colour realy does force you to work quicker and concider form alot more. I realy enjoyed it I think I might try more of this.

[digitalgannon]

here is a 40 min WIP...ill post more when i have a significant amount done...
http://digitalgannon.com/noirtd.jpg
photoshop 7

[GK Smith]

Hazzard. I think im going to continue black and white as well and maybe afterwards, glaze in some color, like the old masters. Black and white is a lot faster. I also think maybe I should have used a reference for the figure and background. Did you start yours on a black background or white or a grey? Mine started of with a grey of about 60% I believe.

[Kartoffel]

Heres my picture for today:
http://web703.athen023.server4free.de/digi/futnoir.jpg
It's still very rough but I didn't want to work any longer on it.

[Freakt]

Great work Graphicmaster!

and it is nice to see some other german guys work !
when im back from work i will post my picture from today!

[Hunger_Artist]

black and white rule.


http://members.tripod.com/carlbeu/774bf7b0.jpg

[Mad Giraffe]

And found out I need a LOT of practice..lots and lots of that....ah well..hope you'll like it

http://www.xs4all.nl/~rfriet/peppo/images/peppo_dsg350.jpg

maybe I'll post some comments..later on..

cya!

MG

[Johannes]

cool stuff, a lot of BW works, which is as it should be :)

tiny pencilsketch/ink blown up and shaded in ps...
(2 of my horrors in 1 - shading and perspective...)
http://home.swipnet.se/panzerkunst/skissbok_dsg_futurenoir1e2.jpg

[Sunny]

digital gannon urs is teh best so far. is it from that movie darkcity? great work so far dood. im liking it a lot

[mog]

interesting topic. Having trouble building an environnment... and coloring :rolleyes:

http://mypage.bluewin.ch/mog/futurnoir.jpg

[digitalgannon]

okay i tired of working on it. Yeah very much inspired by dark city. I agree B&W is suitable for this topic, but a blade runner and matrix are considered a form of noir, so i think any color in high contrast and shadows works.

http://digitalgannon.com/noirtd1.jpg
PS7...2.5 hrs on and off

[Matt Dixon]

http://www.vortex.plus.com/FutureNoir.jpg

Some very nice stuff in here tonight!

[young paddy1]

2 and a bit hours, 1 of them spent trying to get his face not to look like Odo from DS9.

http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v19/youngpaddy1/bladerunner.jpg

Call me captain cliche but I had to do bladerunner for this, I used a reference for his head.

[digitalgannon]

sweet paddy i LOVE it, nice loose feel!

[Dave_Lynch]

Femme-fatale bot. I'll be inking it so this is just a sneak peak I guess.
http://pic6.picturetrail.com:80/VOL146/1914380/3696803/45563852.jpg
Lots of great stuff:
Hagac & Kaptah- great stuff amazing amount of atmosphere.
Olsen-I love it. My fav. so far. Very nice.
Digital Gannon- nice progress thus far but the face in the lower right is rendered better than the one in the center
Sunny- i like what you have so far a lot. Very gestural but really intriguing.

I really need to find my Wacom tablet.

[S.C. Watson]

Hagac, Olsen & Kapath: Excellent mood in your pics. They almost look like they could be from the same movie.

Catapult Beetle: I really like the gritty film look of yours.

GraphicMaster: Love the computer screen effect. Classic noir tension with the guy and gun coming up behind.

Hazzard: Good for five minutes. I'd like to see more time on it though. You've got an interesting setting, but something about it is bothering me.

Sunny: I like this as a starting point. Try refining it some.

GK Smith: Good work. The character needs some work on the arms/hands. He almost looks like he should be wearing a Zuit Suit.

Matt Smith: I like the timelessness of this one.

awalloffire: Good concept, but I think the composition needs a little work. Is that a mech in the background? I can't tell.

Carnifex: The function of objects in a landscape or environment is to lead the eye. The stone will be there to help direct the viewer where the artist wants them to go.

digitalgannon: Good compositioin. Your guy with the knife needs to be looking at the lower guy. The lower guys' visible eye looks too large and too bright. Also, the jacket belt on knife guy looks like it's being held up in space with a string.

Kartoffel: I can't tell what's going on in your scene other than a guy in a spotlight of some sort.

Hunger_Artist: Black and white may rule (you'll get no argument from me there) but this one doesn't carry your usual strength. Specifically, there's no characterization here that we've grown used to from you.

Mad Giraffe: Good start on this. Yeah, toning can be rough. Not sure if they are in a bar or an alley. I'd turn the guy on the left so he is facing the other direction towards your focal point (the guy in the foreground). It will help with the compostion.

Johannes: It looks like you are doing a good job facing your horrors. Just keep working at it. Before long they will be your strength.

mog: Good start. Just focus on the character and don't worry about coloring it. It's noir, so it's supposed to be dark with harsh lighting, so go for b/w.

digitalgannon: same points as above. Like the look though.

Matt Dixon: I like this one a lot. Good setting and character. Is his left hand behind the coat? If so, it wouldn't be billowing quite like that.

young paddy1: Excellent job on ol' Rutger there! Very good.

Dave_Lynch: Cool robot w/ pistol. Looking forward to seeing it inked.

Here's mine for the moment. Still working on it. May post an update later.

http://img9.photobucket.com/albums/v25/Oregano/Concept1/350-noir.jpg

[merd]

great topic but i believe i'm to tiered!!
nice work everybody
:chug:

[RETEP]

heres mine
http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/dingoegret/noir.jpg

oregano- love it, but her left arm is kinda hard to make out(dont know if you meant that or not)

matt dixion- awsome man, has to be my fav.

digitalgannon- i really liked how it turned out, i loved the colors you picked.

sunny- very cool

-sorry i dont have time to comment on everyones, but they are all great!!

[Bretton]

http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v16/bretton/futurenoirbots.jpg

im really not too into scenery :[ so i just did a bunch of lines for buildings... sorry about that... i should probably start trying harder on stuff like that

comments:

oregano: that looks great!.nice green lighting.


young paddy: the face turned out great. nice peice

matt dixon: that looks wonderful. nice shading

digitalgannon: that dude looks cool, very good

sunny: i think it is good

hajac: nice environment!

olsen: damned awesome like always

[digitalgannon]

bretton, sweet creaures- i diggin them- dang i wish i had time to do another piece.

Oregano, wow i like where that is going, looking cool.

everyone else who commented, thanx. I just wanted to see if i could create a cool lit environment. The figure in the middle is supposed to be supernatural figure (hence the neglect for gravity in belt and dulled out face). :cool:

[Signature]

Knew this topic would rock! Great stuff guys.

Bretton: amazing!

Oregano: Great ... just the background could be more defined.
Like that it has a vintage feel rather than futuristic IMHO.
It is still among the best.

Matt Dixon: Great as always.

Johannes: Great too ... damn you probably have to think I stole from yours :emb:

http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/dsg/lensflare2.jpg

Sorry bout the lensflare. But I like it more like that.

[Sunny]

matt dixon that is very sweet!

digital gannon i think u need to go darker and more pale...
i like the start, too much color now if u ask me.... great pic otherwise :D

[GK Smith]

Digital Gannon, Dixon and Oregano, how long did you guys work on your images?

[digitalgannon]

GK:i didnt really keep track, unlike yesterday's DSG. But i laided the ground work out in about 5-10 minutes...took a break then worked on and off for about 2 1/2 hours. Its far from finished, and there are few parts i would have changed, though im done today and its all for fun.

[S.C. Watson]

Originally posted by GK Smith
Digital Gannon, Dixon and Oregano, how long did you guys work on your images?

Heya,

I've probably got about an hour or so in on this one as of its posting. I haven't done anything further, yet.

However, that's on this piece. I had a whole other city scene that I did on paper that I scrapped cause it was too difficult to see what was going on.

I worked digitally on the this one. It's 1700x2100 @ 300 dpi. I typically reduce the canvas down to 50 to 25% while I work on it so I can see the whole thing in both Photoshop and painter. This also makes for a faster go for me as I'm working larger areas and not detailing the hell out of it.

[Matt Dixon]

GK Smith - About an hour.

I'm not commenting on individual pics or I'll be here all night, but I did want to say that the quality of submissions seems to have improved a great deal since I was contributing regularly. I recognise a few names that seem to have been on the talent pills..! Great topic!

[Freakt]

i m back from work and here is my new picture. it takes ONLY me 15 minutes drawing and 5 minutes with paintsop.

Very nice works here WoW!!!

http://www.night-pictures.de/Future2.jpg

it is a guy with a scalf over his mouth in a distroyed city and a lot of smog

[Sunny]

ya decent work today peeps. i am enjoying spending time here , this is the only forum i goto on here because i spend the rest of my time over at eatpoo :p

this is great practice here in the DSG . i should suggest some topics and see how long it takes for one of them to come up :D

[Shelldragon]

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/10594/future%20noir.jpg

picture picture, it's a dude with a cyberfairy. yay :yummy:

[Johannes]

hagac - Im really love ur piece, it was something like that i wanted to do, so I tried to backtrack Ur tecnique and the result surprised me :D
oregano - man, ur fantastic commenting away like that, much appreciated. And I like Ur dame there, I forgot a noir piece needs a "dame

(oops, I ran into gamma trouble, the image looks better on my mac than my pc, not much but a little more detail in the dark parts :( )

http://home.swipnet.se/panzerkunst/dsg_futureno2_1c+3c.jpg

[Cybot Floor]

i tried several times over the day... but nothing came out. My scene should have taken place in the world of Shadowrun, a cyberpunkt-fantasy-rpg, and the main character should have been an orc-detective.

Well here`s the sketch of him, for i dont have anything else and its past two in the morning... :(

too bad-tempered for crits right now. better for everyone...
:bash:

http://www.arcor.de/palb/alben/44/555744/1024_6266383633356566.jpg

[micmac]

A quick one tonight. Went with a graphic style. Not necessarily futuristic. Maybe if she were wearing futuristic clothes. But in my drawing a naked woman in the future is pretty much the same as today.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/michael.macvicar/michael/mm_dsg_03.jpg

Hagac & Olsen - Hell of way to start today's forum. Wonder if I can find, or make, that rake brush in PS.

MM

[Iotrez]

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/simon.davies/FutureNoir2.jpg

Wow HAGAC, OLSEN,kaptah. Three really cool images in a row. You guys can just throw those brush strokes down and produce something great.

I wanna learn to do that!

[Thrash]

http://www.chaingunstudios.com/ArtGallery/dsg/slides/DSG350ThrashFutureNoirWeb.jpg

I like this one. I spent a little more time than usual.

[moops]

I think every film noire movie has a scene where someone is hanging off of something. I'm sure it's in the manual.
http://www.angelfire.com/comics/naart/painting/noir.jpg

[digitalgannon]

ok, i fixed stuff, spent another 3o mins on it, added alot of diff details
http://digitalgannon.com/noir2.jpg

[GK Smith]

I like your touch ups Oregano. I drew my image over again, this time i shot a reference for the figure, I wished i had one for the background. This took me about an hour and 15 minutes.

http://www.gksmithstudios.com/My Portfolio/FutureNoirRemake.jpg

[Matt Smith]

Ok here is my second one, this one i used refrence and was done in about an hour or so in photoshop. Tell me what you think. There are alot of nice works up today, good job everyone.

http://www.mattksmith.com/blacknoir2.jpg

[Myriadian]

Guys, you're all doing a great job. Your skill in PS so makes me jealous--and that's just PS; you give me something to drool over in your hand creations as well. I applaud everyone. You're doing a fantastic job!

[Virg]

hmmm. future noir, black future..
just fit with my mood...
feels good sometimes to just let the brush go !
http://www.geocities.com/whitec100/pain.txt

[shadoman]

Amazing work from all... no time for my rants of comments tonight.

I told myself I wouldn't use Painter again until I have a tablet, but this one just called out.

http://www.shawnadomanis.com/dsg/dsg350.jpg

Til tomorrow...

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::Updated::
Thanks Oregano. His eyes aren't so googly now.

[S.C. Watson]

dingoegret: Strangely, I actually really like this one. That light just doesn't stand a chance.

Bretton: I *love* your critters/droids/things.

Signature: Hey, we *all* have to use the lens flare at least once. I like the dynamic in your picture. I also like your atmospheric (or lack of one) - gives it a very foggy feeling.

Freakt: Rather apocolyptic, but cool. I'd like to see more work on the guys' face - just to bring it out some from the rest of the image.

Shelldragon: The cyberfaeire is cool. I like the idea. There's something about the guy that's bugging me though - he looks like he might be a tad off balance to the left.

Johannes: Gamma trouble or no, it came out looking great.

Cybot Floor: I used to play Shadowrun ages ago. I like the PI Orc. (Piork?)

micmac: Nice silhoette. Lighting on the posterior is slightly off though. Too much on the left.

Iotrez: I really dig your crazy angle buildlings. Your robot guys are interesting too.

Thrash: the extra time shows. good work. I'd like to see more of the face, though. Maybe next time?

MIKECORRIERO: Hey guy, I like yours. Sort of reminds me of the workerbees from Babylon 5.

moops: Looks like another scene out of Blade Runner. 'Cept for the girl. Cool pic. Throw in some blue form below to really build a dynamic tension.

digitalgannon: The edits are looking really good. Thanks for fixing the freefloating phantasmal coat belt. It was freaking me out, man.

GK Smith: Wow, this looks really good. Great job. Watch the size of the head (a little small) and those freeflaoting phantasmal coat belts. They freak me out, man.

Matt Smith: Hey, looks like your guy woke up and is out for revenge! Good job. Check his right hand (gun hand) - it looks like its missing part of the hand. Should be visible on the other side of the pistol grip.

WhiteC: Dude, been there, done that. Have the emotional scars. Lots of energy to your piece.

shadoman: Really cool character concept. I'd run screaming. Check his eyes, they're not level with the rest of the head.

Here's a second go at mine. Still working on it and need something to put in her left hand (raised hand) other than a piece. Any suggestions?

http://img9.photobucket.com/albums/v25/Oregano/Concept1/350a-noir.jpg

[Dave_Lynch]

Here is the "finished" version. It has its faults but then again this is a sketch. My stuff seems so static and stogy. I guess ill just have to work on that. She has an elongated neck because she's a robot. Yeah thats it.

http://pic6.picturetrail.com:80/VOL146/1914380/3696803/45594848.jpg

oregano- nice pallette, i really like how rough the background is.

shadoman- nice texture and good mood

whitec-goddamn love it. small rough and iconic- terrific

gannon-better still. the lights more believable now- theres other ways of making something supernatural besides leaving out detail.

thrash-sweet. clever handeling of background and wonderful feel on the "paint". sexy subject too.

iotrez-very johnen vasquez

johannes-lovely bit of abstraction

bretton-AMAZING compostion. i love it and will be "borrowing" the idea. very nice.

[BlkCelebration]

Too many great pieces today, to comment on all (lame excuse , I know)....but I will say the first posts were some of my favorites, black and white always brings out some cool things.

Don't konw how much "future" there is in this scene,
http://9doublebass.homestead.com/files/newart/anoir.JPG

[Johannes]

Oy, theres so much good stuff here - people really get down on this one :D
Oregano, I would suggest for your dame, a little lady handbag, a little stiletto knife or the most evil thing - a long pair of scissors! Of course she could have those razorfingers too, like lady deathstrike from Xmen :)

[Kirt]

I'm late ... worked on it too long & ran out of time for the environment.

Alias Sketchbook Pro (lenz flared by hand :D)
http://www.kirtstanke.com/images/dsg350.jpg

Comment for everyone - Excellent entries this time around, but one question ...

Does "noir" have to mean B&W? Color ... where's the color?

[OLSEN]

Originally posted by Kirt
Does "noir" have to mean B&W? Color ... where's the color?

I think the "noir" part of the topic is taken from "film noir", older films that is famous for their high contrast shots in black and white.

[Swoop]

Well as i finally got acess to scannign my sketch, i decided to throw some quick coloring on there too. Here goes my late attempt :D

http://www.reflection-design.dk/images/sketch3_color.jpg