Eow 135 South America

[chaosrocks]

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EOW 135 South America

Brief
i have decided to intersperse the occassional real place into the weekly environments. This week is South America,, it has any features you might want to portray. research nessisary. . you can choose ,amazon jungle, Rio andes. tierra del feugo.. what wever you like. but it must be a real place.



DUE February 27th, 2010
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[Zapp!]

Cool topic. Does the time matter? Can it be set in the future or past as long as its a real place? I hope to get something done for this.

[chaosrocks]

yep as long as it's a real place and in South America,,, this south america... on earth. if you seem to be making it up entirely I will ask for reference Material so save it.

[Noa K]

chaosrocks I love ya!
i'm a little tight in time this week but i'll sure try to make it to this one..!

[audit]

found some amazing shots of the Patagonian Andes. some of those mountains are crazy pointy and have amazing colours, so I chose them to paint.

sorry I didn't get the chance to post in my final for #134...I was away during the deadline :(

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[xzacto]

Here's a quick start for me.



Updated - not sure what i want to put on the rocks. either Locals, or a ruined something-or-other.

any ideas?

[M-Studios]

Those entries are looking really great so far!
Good to see that you both have a whole different aproach.

Can't wait to see more entries!

[thescala]

heres my entry so far. i like the feel of it so im gonna keep up with it. i still need to do some refining on the hut in the bg, but imma take a break from it now.

good work all, looking forward to see more.

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm105/thescala/EOW135.jpg

[xbert]

@audit:
great colors! im sure that this is gonna be a fantastic entry! ;)

@xzacto:
thats cool, i like the way you handled the water with just a few brushstrokes!

@thescala:
looking good so far but i think it would look much better if you make tha plants alittle more greenish while leaving the lake brown, hope youll finish this!

hopefully ill find the time to start my own ;)

[M-Studios]

Here is wat I got so far, don't know if I will continue with the color scheme.
I'm having a sort of love-hate relationship with it.

@:thescale:
I think xbert is right about this one, more green would defenatily do good!

[Kamikaye]

Wow ,these WIPs are awesome. Its my first time entering EOW I think , and I thought of the observatories over the clouds.

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/2804/eow135kamikaye.jpg

[thescala]

ill see what i can do

[chaosrocks]

are those last two real places?.. are there mayan templesin south america?
observatories in the clouds?

I reiterate this Has to be a real place

[Zapp!]

are those last two real places?.. are there mayan templesin south america?
observatories in the clouds?

I reiterate this Has to be a real place

There are temples like that in Peru.

I don't know about the observatories but I imagine it could be somewhere up high in the Andes.

[Hive_minD]

Hey chaosrocks. Just to clarify: ok the place must be real, but does it have to be "identical" to the reference we use? -so that it kinda is like a study? Or...
Just asking. I am hoping to join this round, and wouldn´t want to screw up my first time... :)
Guess my question is, how much freedom do we have?

Chris

[Kamikaye]

are those last two real places?.. are there mayan templesin south america?
observatories in the clouds?

I reiterate this Has to be a real place

The observatories over the clouds are a real place. I saw a documentation about it in TV, and it came into my mind when seein this theme.

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2007/08/the-driest-plac.html

http://www.eso.org/public/archives/images/screen/lasilla_eve.jpg

[chaosrocks]

I looked it up there are step pyramids in Belize too, so that pans out. I'm still curious about the observatories. google was not forth coming with the answer to that one.

no It doesn't have to be Identical to the reference, It can combine several references, But it does have to be based on something real. in a sense yes this is an opportunity to do an environmental study, and practice style and rendering without having to make it up.

[xzacto]

@ Xbert : thanks for the comment, yeah I am able to be much more deliberate with my brush strokes with a reference at hand. just working on style.

I am thinking of adding some sort of temple-ruins structure and some birds to my image, and maybe a long boat lower right corner full of explorers. I will post the reference eventually.

[Ragnj]

Im a little confused, should we only make places we are sure exists (draw off?) or can we do things that could potentially exist in SA?

[chaosrocks]

what part of "real" isn't clear. if you are making an impression or non specific place, it has to be based on actual reference material. if ou are making a jungle scene is has to clearly be a south american jungle,any on adding tigers or hippopotami will automatically be rejected.

I 'm not demanding that you render one existing image. although you certainnly may. but that your material comes from actual reference. which you can produce if asked. compositing is ok.

another hint, this is a prime opportunity to develop or work on a style, or "Look" that you want your work to have. and for those of you who are into game development. here's the things I think of right off... action adventure based on drug cartels, the building of the coco plantatians (which involved lots of murder and mayhem) and a kids game called "amazon trails", Indiana Jones.... etc etc etc. there's lots of ways to go with this. plenty of games build on real world sites, and historical siuations.

[audit]

thanks for kind words guys. update after a few more hours. I'll finish off structure of the hills in the middle, and then see if anything is still bugging me about it. (gradient's not really working either - will nudge that around later)

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[android411]

I´m in too, cool topic. I´ve choosen a lodge in amazon river...

Kamikaye, looks cool, hope you can go with it
audit, great colors and style

[chaosrocks]

audit... your saturation levels are uniform through out. and your values are pretty similar too. this is causing a certain amount of flattening in your image (this may or may not be intentional, but I just thoguht I'd point it out)

[Sean McClain]

I'm having a lot of fun with this one!, I like the real every once in a while Idea:)

[chaosrocks]

android411. your trees ad boats are hovering over the water plane.. you need to bring them down.

[Ragnj]

Inspired by the fortification Sacsayhuaman ruled by the Incas

[JanJager]

Hi all
Great work. Trying to give some crits. Most of it is just my personal opinions.

audit
Very nice. I like the mountains with their sharp blue shadows and the clear atmosphere. Perhaps you could make the foreground come a bit nearer to the viewer.
xzacto
Great view. I think both locals or a ruin will be great at the rocks. Personaly I vote for locals.
thescala
I like the feel of it to. The very dark leaves in the foreground gives a nice depth in the picture when it contrasting the background.
Are you going to put some more colour values into it?
M-Studios
Very Nice! Like your colour scheme. I think the sky I reflecting great in the building.
I would try to make a little more contrasts in the shadows and maybe a a tiny more brightens in the sky just at the horizon.
Perhaps. the stairs is a little out of perspective compared to the steps in the pyramid.
Kamikaye
Beautiful picture. I like that you leave so much space for the sky and that you can see the stars.
Perhaps you can define the shadows from the figures a bit. Making the figures more connected to ground and the red tones.
android411
Lovely scene.I agree with chaosrocks that the trees and boats could bee more attached to the water surface.
You could do some really nice reflections and shadows in the water.
Ragnj
Good start.

Hers my wip. I'm trying to do a favela but feels a bit stuck at the moment.

[thescala]

Thanks for the positive feedback dudes and dudettes. I did add in some more color to the picture, although, I still have to work on the hut in the BG.

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm105/thescala/trees-1.jpg

[xzacto]

JanJager: thanks, I think I have decided on the Locals as well. as for your image, I really like how it's more finished in a very tight spot of the houses and the detail falls off toward the edges. I understand it's a Wip but I really like what's happening there. I think a little atmospheric vanishing might be cool way up in the high spots on the hills and houses too!

[dVargas]

heres my work, so far, of a favela outside of sao paolo
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XzC0t-Ivqyo/S4Dcdn2r2MI/AAAAAAAAAUY/l7ucy_WqWT0/eow135_dvargas.jpg

[JanJager]

xzacto
Thanks for the crit. My first intention was to have details all over but I think you are right. It will probably bee better not to have details evenly over the whole picture.
Looking forward to see your locals.
dVargas
Great view. Good depth. Nice to see the fashionable buildings in the background.

[xzacto]

i REALLY like that enviro so far, Dvargas!

[xbert]

@chaosrocks:
look at this pic
http://eso.org/public/archives/images/paranal-with-hotspots.jpg
these telescopes are located at the cerro paranal (a great mountain) in chile.
im studyin physics everybody in our faculty is dreaming about working someday at these beatiful telescopes. i think that these are a great theme for this round ;) heres the page of the vlt (very large telescope) http://eso.org/public/teles-instr/vlt/

@Kamikaye:
fantastic colors and lightning!!

@thescala:
yes! now it looks thousand times better

@dvargas:
great contrast between
poor and rich in your image are you going to make put a little bit social crits in this image? this would be great! ;)

[thescala]

thanks dude for the + feedback, i hope the HR Reps at GDC share the same opinion

[android411]

thanks for your feedback guys

tried to work on it a bit more but I think I messed it up, at least I´m not happy with it, don´t know if I will have some more time for it, but let´s see

dVargas - I like the contrast of poor and rich too, maybe your lines are converging to much in the center, but don´t hate me if I´m wrong please :), maybe you could put something interesting there as the eye move quite staight to that point...

JanJager - thanks for your feedback, as I said before I like your image a lot, however I realized that your farmost left buildings seem to be out of perspective, kind of fish eye, but maybe you wanted it that way

thescala - very nice composition so far, I´m curious about your next steps

[dVargas]

thanks! I am referencing a pic though...so props to the photographer!
android411 -ur right, its not got the greatest balance and 'eyeflow'... but maybe thats part of the 'statement' ;)

here is an update - as per usual I'm getting caught into some details without having resolved the overall comp, shapes & light - maybe should have left as is, *shrug*

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_XzC0t-Ivqyo/S4NkwM6locI/AAAAAAAAAUw/-ysudV4A8OA/eow135_dvargas_flavela02.JPG

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[unruhe]

Hello all, this is my first entry ever in the EOW subforum.
Feel free to give comments tips and any other suggestions / guidelines etc, so I can make adjustments to the drawing. At the moment I am a bit stuck. My feeling says that it lacks something.....

Great entries so far!
Kamikaye: Really like your image. Great atmosphere I really want to stand there listening to some ambient music while watching the sunrays and clouds interact with each other.

Audit: Lovely colours and a lossy feel which I enjoy.

dVargas: Keep it up! I also tend to lose myself in the details everytime I start a new picture...

[JanJager]

New wip

[PxelSlayer]

I was wondering - would something like this qualify? Did use references, but it`s more of a "mood" sketch.

[chaosrocks]

it qualifies....

[android411]

I think this will be my final, had some time left to work on it a bit more and practice some rendering, I feel a bit better with it now, not sure with the water though

JanJager - looks great

dVargas - yeah right, I forgot :)

[annarepp]

Hello all! Great entries!!

This is my first entry ever on EOW forum, too. The place is not real, but I am referencing the small adobe churches that can be found in the Andes... I'm not sure if I have time to finish this before the deadline, but I would greatly appreciate all comments. I'm just starting out, and I would really like to learn how to paint environments. Thank you!
http://annarepp.com/NewImages/SoA_Step2.jpg

[chaosrocks]

annarepp
be careful of the reference detail. this needs to be real, most of the adobe churches and missions I pulled up pictures of are architecturally quite different than this one which appears to be the American south west. especially since you have included a saguaro cactus... which to the best of my knowledge and google's only occur in the Sonora desert of North America.

and no rainbow,.... just no. Do I need to go into detail? think it through. dry climate (as witnessed by the adobe) .. rainbow requires.......rain. and as a compositional element it is leading the eye directly up into the corner ad off the page

[xzacto]

dvargas: hehe, cool image, I just ran across the image you are using for reference on google, and then today on cghub i saw that someone else thought the image was cool as well! only it's flipped.

here's the image (http://www.arrakeen.ch/saopaulo/075%20%20favela%20in%20Morumbi.JPG)

http:///files/Image/001001-002000/1004/236_realsize.jpg

[M-Studios]

Nice work everyone!
Here is an update from my side, tweaked the color quite a bit, but I think the color on this one is better. But that is just my humble opinion.

[David.W]

This is my first contribution to the EOW, but I'm not sure if I can finish it until saturday. It's supposed to look like a part of the Iguazu Falls in Brazil/Argentina. And yeah, it's obviously a wip

[LegacyPunk]

I wanna play! here's what I got so far....machu pichu ish

http://www.woodsoflore.com/Sketches/Machu-Pichu.jpg

[audit]

update!

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[chaosrocks]

ok ok I'll try

[annarepp]

audit: great painting! really love the brilliant colors and contrasts!

chaosrocks: thank you! The churches are actually from South America - here are some links to the photos I'm using as reference: both locations are in Chile, Atacama region. Maybe with the detail I added it looks more south american now...

Iglesia de Machuca (http://www.pbase.com/rmoraga/image/64578926)
Iglesia Parinacota (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&gbv=2&tbs=isch:1&q=iglesia+parinacota&sa=N&start=0&ndsp=21)

I agree about the saguaro - while there are similar cacti growing somewhere in South America, there are none in the region I'm drawing, so I did delete. Also, the mountains were too steep - changed them a bit, too. And too bad the rainbow had to go - I liked it! :) But you are right - one of the driest regions on earth might not see that many rainbows!

Here's the update:

http://annarepp.com/NewImages/SoA_Step4.jpg

[chaosrocks]

you might want to check your perspective. I t seems to me that your eye level and vanishing points, don't agree for the mountains and for the church, in fact the church doesn't quite agree with itself
it really helps to take your image in to PS if you have it. put a semi transparent layer over your drawing and work out the perspective, especially for something like abuilding where it just looks a little wonky if you get it wrong.

[annarepp]

Could you point the areas where the perspective needs fixing? Sometimes, when I look at a painting for too long, I don't see even the most obvious mistakes... Thank you!

[chaosrocks]

if you look at where you eyelevel is for the church. I think you would find it about half way up the exterior wall. but the perspective is such that the roof of th etower is tilted and the actuall building horizontal eye level is above the top of the wall. For the mountains war are floating in the air some where. the eyelevel changes through out the church. you really need to plant your horizontal line soe where and Base the rest off that.

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lowered eye level. , notice the effect on the roofline of the tower
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If one of you folks can explain this better than I please..... jump in

I would also like to point out the clouds, should be in perpective to to make them recde into the sky and make your space bigger.

[Kamikaye]

I tried to increase the red a bit in the figure shapes. such awesome work around here :)

[LegacyPunk]

Ran outta time so I axed the ruins, looking forward to next weeks topic :)

[Junior artist]

:^^:Very beautiful environment

[thescala]

heres mine.

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm105/thescala/southamerica.jpg

[Munin Raven]

Finally got around to having a go at EOW. Some cool entries.

[ALCANTAR]

Funny, for most of you South America is poverty, jungle or ruins...

[chaosrocks]

and incredible topography. show us something else?

[chaosrocks]

the final burning threaD IS POSTED
PLEASE MOV E YOUR WORKS OVER
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2653038#post2653038
DON'T FORGET YOUR OUTSIDE HOSTED ICON

[thescala]

well its a great "matte" painting. im not the moderator here but im pretty sure using photo ref is allowed.

[nickmarshallvfx]

Some awesome entries this week, its a shame i didnt see this sooner or I would have tried to throw an entry together.

LegacyPunk - I did something similar to your entry about a year ago. A sketch that I developed into a matte painting, based on Machu Picchu, without the ruins:

http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL762/3253510/19178467/361972555.jpg

http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL762/3253510/19178467/361972563.jpg


Munin - About time!! ;) I always check out your sketches on Colors!, and wondered why you didnt enter the EOW's. Good to see your entry, and cool work as always!

Nick

[chaosrocks]

Matte painting is perfectly fine, especially when done well

[Munin Raven]

Space-Sprayer: Thanks. Do you post on Colors! too? Very nice matte painting.

[LegacyPunk]

Space-Sprayer: Weird that our clouds are so similar, I kinda made most of mine up, lol.

[annarepp]

Thank you again for all your advice! Here's where I am at right now... Not sure if I should move this to the finals thread - all entries there are so good, I feel I still need to work more on this...

http://annarepp.com/NewImages/SouthAmerica_Final.jpg

[Sean McClain]

I did my thumbs and sketches in watercolor, than did my final peice in photoshop. mine was devils throaght.

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[chaosrocks]

new round posted
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2655489#post2655489

[nickmarshallvfx]

Munin - cheers, yea I post on colors, but as nickmarshallvfx :)

Nick