Nlete's Sketchbook, updating again!

[Nlete]

Hey there all Conceptart.org members,

I've been reading and seeing wonderful sketchbooks, finished arts and all those stuff on the site for some days now. This site made a so deep impression in me that I decided to learn to draw whatever it takes. Now some words about me:
I'm 18, living in Hungary. Still learning in school (last year in high school), i want to learn IT next year if i succeed in my maturity exams.
I can't draw well, I mostly use Photoshop for doing graphical stuff, not drawing there, but using effects and montages i think. My main aim is to be able to draw from imagination (concept arts mostly for games), so want to learn both hand-drawn skills and digital too, but starting off with hand-drawing first.
So here are some drawings I made, please comment and give me critics as much as you feel, i need them badly.

Some words about these:
I still attent to art class in school so the first pictures are made there (that's why you can see a mark on them). The pictures without a mark were made in a week, when I started "The New Drawing on the right side of the brain" workbook by Betty Edwards. The last 3 pictures are copies from Picasso and an unknown German artist, these were made upside down(task in the workbook).

[keevy39]

I am so glad to see other people go through Drawing from the right side of the brain. Keep it up dude your gunna be awesome!

[Nlete]

hey, first comment and in so short time, i love this community! Thanks, i'll do all excercises :D

[Nlete]

I made a sketch of my pencase today and i'm proceeding in the book, did the hand-drawing exercise.

[Nlete]

Made my first 30sec poses today.
I get more and more satisfiction from spending my time with drawing :)

[Nlete]

Preceeding in the book:
1. My hand again with a lighter background set-up, holding a yo-yo.

2. A half-peeled orange.

There are only spotlights in my room (save the environment with low consuming devices!), and 2 lamps were up when i draw, that's the reason for the double shadow.

[iSmack]

Hey man, Looking good :)

I'm like you, starting to learn to draw and I thought I share a website I've been using to help me out with anatomy... I still need alot of work myself on it :C

http://www.posemaniacs.com/

It has TONS of different poses, both male and female. There's also a tool in which you can set a timer and it will automatically change the pose... I'm still on the 90sec one :C

Best of luck to you :)

[Nlete]

thx for dropping a comment here.
I already found that, and did some poses aswell, but thx for mentioning :D

[Nlete]

Proceeding further...
1. a negative space stem drawing
2. a plant's outlines
3-4. some poses in 30sec and arm anatomy practice

[Nlete]

Thinking about buying a graphics tablet in the future, can any1 give me advice about this?

[DeeStar]

nice work, keep up those studies and you'll see improvement in no time. As for graphics tablets, I just got myself a wacom bamboo pen and touch. Reasonably priced and good.

Dee

[Scimok]

Keep up the studies, improvement shows already.

[NeonDuck]

good to see someone working through that book, it's great (if a bit long-winded)! once you get your head around the message it really changes the way you draw, and hopefully sticks with you for the rest of your art career.

about the tablet, I've had best experience with wacom 6x8 or 5x9 or whatever they are. medium size is best, and wacom3 is probably cheap on ebay and it's ace. all the artist at my work use those.

I do remember my teacher yelling at me for using it for practice though, because it skews your skill. you tend to get into a draw-undo-draw-undo-draw-undo habit that's really bad because you're not learning to draw, you're just drawing random stuff until it happens to look right. that's what happened to me anyway, so I'd be a bit careful. His advice was to stick to pencils and throw that eraser right out the window. That did wonders for me.

I was looking at that Posemaniac thing, does anyone know of a similar site but with real models? Not sure how helpful Posemaniac is, it's 3D and it has no skin :(

[Nlete]

NeonDuck - thank you for the advice. I don't want to buy a tablet yet, because I first need to learn to draw, and then i can move to digital.

Proceeding with the book, a negative-space training of a chair
Starcraft II betac came out and I'm playing it now (I got a key yay), so there will be updates less often :D

[Nlete]

So proceeding furthermore...
I became lazy, need to find more motivation to draw. Anyway i had a language exam this week.

1. Simple drawing of a household thing

2. Drawing of an actual chair

3. Line-drawing of a sports picture

4-5. Sketches, poses from 30sec and from imagination and an anatomial study

[Nlete]

1. Copy of a Masterpiece: Man Reading the Bible by Vincent Van Gogh

I'm pretty proud of myself for this, it just looks cool, made me excited again :D

[Nlete]

1. A sight of my opened door from my room - line drawing practice
2-3. 30s poses, negative space poses and anatomical studies

[Nlete]

1. The corner of my room (check the first post for the same corner - only that the furnitures was changed, but it's the same)

2. Is the actual photo of the corner

3-4. Poses, some pre-dream creatures and faces and poses again

Would like to see some critics here 8D

[Clean3d]

Nice stuff! I like the drawers-in-perspective drawing in your latest post and the negative chair drawing especially. Keep it up!

p.s. Are those the Loomis proportional figures I see? I tried to copy those too - good practice material, there.

[Nlete]

Thank you!
Yup, those are loomis references. The woman is a bit broad-shouldered, but hey, 1st try.

[LordVenom]

Really great studies man, u already made some progress from your early postings. I really like you last drawer study!

[LordVenom]

Thanks Man, trying to do more and more of these.

I'm writing Transylvania because it sounds mysterious and more interesting then just writing Romania :) And yes I am of Hungarian/Székely origin.

[Nlete]

1. My foot - line drawing
2. Poses

C&C needed here!

[in2eternity]

Not bad for the start :) Try to do some shadow/lightning works, don't using lines at all.
I studied IT too, it's interesting when you can combine artistic and technical skills. But it's a pity we don't have any state studies in multimedia :(
Good luck!

[LordVenom]

I like the foot study I did the same thing with my hand once I took a long train ride :)

[Nlete]

in2eternity:I draw a still life yesterday night and I noticed my bad shadow/light skills, so thank you for the advice. I'm gonna look for some excercises in regards to this .

LordVenom: The foot drawing was strange, i really didn't want to believe that my foot seems so tiny in the perspective, but it does. Also, I have 5 toes, but the last was under my slipper's band, so i could not see it when drawing, and when i checked the drawing it just looked strange.

[Nlete]

1. A still life, but i'm really not satisfied with it, will do it again. And cours i gotta do some shadow studies

Update:
2. Shadow- light study without pre-set sheet
3. Shadow- light study with pre-set sheet.

I badly need critique now so i can improve in this

[LordVenom]

Cool value studies, u could be a bit more brave with the darker tones I think.

[Nlete]

1. Here you go, some more studies I made this weekend, had some busy days,so it's not much, but i think i got the point.
ps. these are to be seen as seperated objects
2. Update: Re-did the book still-life, i think this is better.

[Kristoff]

^_^ MOAR from life, MOAR perspective studies! =)And be more confident with darker tone =) I'll be watching =)

[BlackDelphin]

Your still life have some clean, sharp, well rendered strokes. You should do the same with your figures.
Posemaniacs are good when first starting out with full body, that 60sec exercise especially for the flow.
So try not worrying so much if the line will be good, and just let it flow... let the pencil draw freely, and with practice they'll be accurate. :)

Also you should get a bridgman book. Every artist should have bridgman..
And try combining it with loomis and hogarth.

You can find some of their books in this list (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=131117) , and so, so much more!
Keep practising, you have a nice sketch book start, and you'll be better in no time if you keep this up!! :D:D:D

[Nlete]

Wow guys, thx for dropping comment and tips!

Kristoff: I'm going to do more perspective studies if i had time. And trying to use a more confident dark tone :)

BlackDelphin: Agreed, the last still-life has some lines i should use. Trying to get them.
I'm still doing the book i started, but gonna search for Bridgman and the others. It's pretty hard to get the here :|

I drew some hours today, here you go:
1-2. Copies of sketches in the book, the point is on the proportions of the figures, to get used to measure and draw all angles and lenghts relatively.
3. A still-life, I had hard times with that cloth in the background, not so good in my op. The point was to learn how to sight spheres.

[Nlete]

Things i drew yesterday and today:
1. A profile study.
2. A copy of masterpiece after Sargent.
3. A portrait study of my girlfriend.
5. A drawing of a towel. -> I'm pretty satisfied with it :)
4., 6. 60s poses

[BlackDelphin]

I saw your post in Rober's sketch book, and i rushed over here to tell you this.

Nlete, you shouldn't force yourself to do your studies. That way, you won't make the most out of it and who knows for how long you will last, until you'll totally hate it, no.
You have to find the fun part in that study, or just find your way of making yourself eager, to want, to get better! :D:D:D
I for instance watch interviews with famous artists, or watch live crimson daggers and chat with them while they study. They make me start a study too, and i forget how tired i was. Dose the trick every time!! :)

Like i said, i think your stills have nice lines, and this time your portraits too, but you really should work on those proportions. Don't try to do master studies blindly, without knowing some construction information n such.
Do some anatomy studies, learn how things work, and once you start those, if you want to do anything else in parallel, by all means! Do it! But do some studies! They help you get so much better!!
Drawing what you think it's there, guessing the information, takes a whole lot more, than when you know exactly what it is. Makes sense, no?

You can find bridgman n co. online. I know what you mean by hard to get, i ordered one and got it 3months later, not to mention how much it took to find someone who'd deliver in my country.. But i worked with the pc ones, printed the ones that seemed harder, and it's ok.

So lets see some bridgmans !!! http://www.archive.org/stream/constructiveanat00briduoft#page/n5/mode/2up !!! http://www.archive.org/stream/humanmachinethea009564mbp#page/n7/mode/2up !!! :cheerleader:

Don't let the appearance fool you!! The drawings you'll do just fine, the understanding takes more, and on that we'll be working with for a while. :)

I'll be SUURE to check you out, and i'm not letting you be till i see some BRIDGMANS!
If you won't want to do them any more afterwords, that's fine with me, but i need to see one sheet of studies first. xD

ps. sorry if i keep repeating myself xD xD

[Nlete]

Thank you BlackDelphin, i really appreciate your tips! "Forcing" myself is not really what i wanted to say, but it came out like that.
I totally get your point, i'm only drawing when i feel like, not ever when i'm not in the mood for that. This is a hooby after all and you only do that when you feel so.
I gotta get those books now and start the anatomical studiing.
I'm trying to keep proportions, but sometimes i'm going with the line and then when i check the whole stuff, it's somehow misplaced. Gotta work on that!
I'm glad you are not letting me be, i need to be egged by somebody :)

1. Picture of Charlie Chaplin from photo reference.
2. Shadow study with eggs.

[LordVenom]

The picture of Charlie Chaplin is looking good but there is no resemblance. It works great as a style but you have to work more on the likeliness.

As for the shadow study maybe you shouldn't darken the whole page that takes away a bit in my opinion.

[Nlete]

Yeah, it's more like a "somebody" then Chaplin.

The book suggested making a ground for that picture, i think it was too dark. The point was on the different types of shadows anyways :)

[Nlete]

Here are some bridgman studies (the skull is from artistanatomy.org).

[Nlete]

Some portraits i did:
1. After Van Gogh's self portrait - Charcoal
2. After Van Gogh's self portrait - Charcoal, second variation, the first was too wide
3. Self portrait - my brother told me that it's like a caveman-me, doh :D

[Nlete]

Some stuff i made:
1. Picasso's portrait - ink and brush
2. A fantasy picture from ink splashes, based on Da Vinci's advices.
3. A portrait from imagination
4-5. Hand studies from bridgman's book

[LtPlissken]

Hello. Hát igen, szerintem is csak rajzolyál sokat és minden nap, és nem tévedhetsz biztos, mert látom, hogy az igazi úton vagyol. Sok sok szerencsét a további munkádban...

[LordVenom]

Nice to see those Bridgman studies, just keep them up and vary the books as well from time to time. You should do some portrait or head study from those book as well. If you look at your self portrait from the earlier post where your brother said that you look as a caveman, you can see that your eyes are to high. There are lots of simple building rules in Loomis might also be in Bridgman that will help you scale and proportionate your portraits better.

[Diarum]

Nice man, lol your gesture drawings look lot like mine, first time I've seen someone else with the same looking gestures as me lol :D. Umm Theres not much to tell you other then keep it up, push yourself always 2nd guess yourself and ask your self how you can improve. Keep doing still life drawings, you can never do to many ;D. Happy Trails

[Nlete]

LtPlissken: köszi szépen!
LordVenom: I'm doing loads of studies, if my free time permits. Attending to a course imo, and gonna have maturity exams in 1,5 months, so i gotta prepare, but i draw every day.
Diarum: Thx for your comment, i'm gonna check you out :) I have to work on that "second guessing myself".

Studies for now:

[Nlete]

1. An imagination training - characters from teaspots
2. Crosshatching practice with different medias
3. An environment study, i've got pretty shitty perspective, and a lack of patience :\
4. A cronte crayon drawing after legros - practicing crosshatching
5. A League Of Legends game character - Veigar
6-7. Studies
Conclusion: moar perspective and moar from life; i gotta pracice crosshatching technique; gotta do moar anatomy studies from memory aswell.

[Nlete]

Guys, i bought a Wacom fun pen and touch tablet. Any ideas where to start with this? Or any tutorials, exercises, etc?

[Nlete]

Ok,so i found a tutorial, here you go, my first hand-made digital pic ever!
(this is an orange...)

[Novbert]

Guys, i bought a Wacom fun pen and touch tablet. Any ideas where to start with this? Or any tutorials, exercises, etc?

Sit down, launch Photoshop, have fun! ;)
:yayca:

[Nlete]

Some poses to practice this tablet thingy :)

[LordVenom]

Az a narancs elegge jo kezdetnek, jo uton haladsz cak igy tovabb. Probald meg ugy hasznalni a tabletet figurak rajzolasanal mint ah ceruzat hasznalnal. Nem heljes tobb vonalakat hasznalni nem a legjobb tanacs ez de amig megszokod addig batran vonalazz, ne probald egybol szepen meghuzni a vonalat, csinalj durva skizzeket, majd egy uj layeren szepen ki tudod dolgozni meg iesmik. Csak batran hasznald tovabb :)

[Nlete]

LordVenom: köszi :)

Some stuff from life and studies. I also made a loads of poses, but my photoshop quit and i forgot to save :S Shit happens.

[Nlete]

1st try for a landscape. Kinda crappy if you ask me :drool:
edit: image is not showing, will fix this when i'm at home
edit2: ok now

[Nlete]

A fantasy painting, took me about 2 hours, and a monster.

[Nlete]

Found a pic and tried to make something like that. Any tips for me? pls?

[Nlete]

Due to lack of motivation, I stopped drawing a month ago. That's bad and I know that. I should make more connections here, to get more feedback on my stuff, because this was one of the main problems I had.
But now i'm drawing again, practicing with my digital tablet. If you would, please comment my pictures. I need comments and critics badly you see :)
So here you go, a shaman figure from imagination. He's under development, I just want to show you how i am proceeding with this.
Worked mainly on his right arm and around the neck.

[LordVenom]

Your a young lad still in school, don;t tell me you don;t have some classes that don;t bore the living sh*t out of you. I always drew and doodled in those classes, that how i kept my motivation for drawing up :)

[Nlete]

No classes for me, I'm having summer holidays now (well kindof, finished school at the end of april and preparing for maturity exams... well i should ;) ).
I started Loomis and doing Bridgman where i stopped. Anatomy, good perspective and stuff awaits.

[Nlete]

Did some Loomis today, man and woman proportions and landmarks. 1st pic is from observation and the 2nd is from memory in the two cases. Anatomy sux, but the point was to get the proportions.

[Nlete]

Loomis, different man body styles.

[Diarum]

Hey Nlete. Good work with keepin up with some studies. I would stress the importance of drawing from life, you don't really even have to do anatomy for right now. I only saw this because Still lifes help develope your "eye for detail" so you can put as much info down on the paper.

[Nlete]

more Loomis.

Diarium - I want to draw characters and stuff, not environment and others. I may try those later on, but the first prio now to get a good sense of the human figure. That's why I'm doing Loomis a lot.
Drawing from life is really helpful, but now i tend to use my tablet all the time... maybe i should search for my sketchbook and pencils :D

[Diarum]

lol I understand that. What I was trying to get at is that doing still life increases your ability to turn 3d objects into 2d( transland on to paper) and it makes your ability to see detail a lot better then what it was before. Even in charater design it still the most important thing to do because you learn how things learn, loomis and bridgman can only take you so far. you can ask just about anyone on the website and they will tell you that it is really improtant to draw from things around you.

[Nlete]

yeah, i know the importance of drawing from life. I'm just not really into still life stuff, but i think i should do that aswell sometimes. I can try... :)

[Pixie Trick]

Everything Diarum says is absolutely true. Being able to transfer how something changes through space is the basis of drawing and thereby painting realistically- no matter what the subject matter is. When you have a photo or someone else's drawing, it is much more difficult to stay in the mindset that allows you to grasp that the object the 3 dimensional, and how to render as if it were so. In your latest post you are trying to show the body in different view, but are actually showing them as cutout of a body in the view. They lack the roundness that means they are 3D.

You are working very hard with all these anatomical studies! Just mix it up a bit and I'm sure you'll be off to the races! :sugnod:

[Nlete]

Hey Pixie Trick, thank you for stopping by. Yeah, those are more like "maps", just memoryzing the landmarks.
I should do some still lifes now :D

[Nlete]

You wanted it, here you go :D
1. Still life sketch
2-3. My hand, practicing foreshortened view, and started to do a value study from it, but it sucked and i'm sleepy :D

[Nlete]

Moar loomis

[Nlete]

Moar Loomis, i like this mannikin drawing stuff

[Pixie Trick]

Those manikins really seems to have helped with the dimensionality. Lovely work on the life drawings too. :)

[Nlete]

Baneling from Starcraft 2, just for fun

[Nlete]

Loomis

[Nlete]

loomis

[DSmith]

Szia!

Na,végre találtam egy magyart az oldalon!Nem volt sok időm eddig,később átfutom az összes oldalt,de amit eddig láttam,az tetszik!Feliratkoztam,csak így tovább!
(that was hungarian language)

EDIT:Na,átnéztem.Sok a fejlődés,szépen haladsz,a tónusok és az árnyékolás nagyon tetszik!
(csak mellékesen:Az erősítőd odab*sz!:D Gondolom,gitározol,nem?Egyébként merre laksz?)

[Diarum]

lo úgy gondolja, hogy így beszél egy másik nyelvet trükkös mi? : P google fordító a győzelemhez. Tudok beszélni bármelyik nyelv a világon nem igazán beszélt, hogy ...

Én nyertem lmao

[Novbert]

Studying loomis is the best way to improve. Just some general crit: try to work on line control a bit more. Currently all your sketches are built up of little sketchy lines and it really weakens them. William Whitaker has this demo (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=83405) where he shows exactly why you should work with longer lines (check photo #2 and #3). Maybe it sound like nipicking but this is really a must for any successful rendering.
Achieving it digitally can be really challenging. Setting the tablet's tip feel to firmer value (lowering it's pressure sensitivity) helped me a lot.
:yayca:

[Nlete]

Thank you for the tips, i knew the lines was bad, but couldn't really make them better (not really tried anyways). Will check the link and try out better lines with lower sensitivity :)

[BluezAce]

Keep going, Nlete! :D

My advice, just take your time when drawing. Although I know many professional who could make many great artwork really fast, I think it's better to not rushing when we're still learning. Just do it slowly in a relaxed pace, be patience, and try your best at every line (well, it's professionalism. Better train that attitude as soon as possible, doesn't it? :))

Btw, I've read Drawing On The Right Side of The Brain too? But until now I still wondered what's the difference between "seeing with right side of the brain" and "seeing normally" @,@

[Nlete]

Seeing with the artist's eyes, don't describe the tree as a complex biological living thingy, but describe as shapes, forms, light and shadow. That's what it is all about in 1 sentence. (that's why you did exercises like the negative space drawing and stuff).
I'm not rushing, i'm having a lot of spare time, that's why i can post nearly daily. Sometimes i don't feel like drawing (today for example) and i don't draw therefore :) My lines a suckie, because i never really tried to correct them, but i will

[LordVenom]

Teteszik hogy csinaltad a tenyer tanulmanyt csak egy kicsit nagyon szelesre sikerult, de ne add fell mindig mikor van idod figyeld a tenyered es rajzold le en is sokat csinaltam azt. A Loomis tanulmanyok meg jok, keep it up man, i wanna see even more studies! :D

[Nlete]

hey thx for the comments, i just need that :)
i got my new notebook, an Apple Macbook Pro, and i'm experimenting with that, that's why i'm missing updates. Will get into mac drawing soon, i just need to get apps for this comp aswell. I'm doing some pencils, will scan l8er

[DSmith]

I am on my phone,sorry for the typing mistakes!Awaiting new drawings,and pleasd tell me more about the Mackbook pro!I wanred to buy one,but I dont know if it is worth the extra money compared to a PC.
Cheerz!

[Nlete]

Well, it's really worth it's price, if you are dedicated to graphics and not only everyday work. The Mac OS is pretty nice and usable, i love that system. It can handle all kinds of stuff, and there are loads of free programs offering windows alternatives (like open office instead of microsoft office, etc). It runs games smoothly, i can use photoshop on mac aswell and it's pretty flawless. Ohh and i didn't mention the 10 hour battery, which is awesome :P I like apple! ;)
Updates are missing, because i cannot dedicate enought time to draw something uploadable. I'm having maturity exams in 1 week, and i should really start studying. I have 80 topics to learn and only started today. Does not sound much, but it is :P
whish me good luck.

[PurplePlatypus]

I do beleave I’m seeing some improvement with them studies, keep it up.
I think you’re having some trouble considering your drawings as 3D objects though, I think continuing with life drawing will help with that. I can see it in some areas with the mannequins but then there are other bits that seem to be flattered out.

[Nlete]

thx for stopping by, and you are right, i'm having hard time showing objects in 3d. I don't really understand perspective either, so still life awaits me :P

[iven]

I like your stuff here, all the figures I also do that over and over and over, than
I make a mass drawing I put tubes and cylinders on top. I struggle with nude
drawing but it's fun. I like your profile picture.

[Nlete]

thx for stopping by. I really need to get posting again, and i'll be able after my finals are over.
Character drawing needs a lot of training as i can feel, that's why i'm posting a lot of those. I want to get into this area of concept art.