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stalecracker
November 14th, 2002, 06:47 PM
Hi all-
I did this in an attempt to improve upon my handling of light and form. I like the way it turned out and learned quite a bit while realizing I need to learn ALOT more... Anyway, here is Franky-
I removed the original version. If anybody cares to see it again... just lemme know.:)
Imp Head
November 14th, 2002, 08:04 PM
As always I love the textures you're getting in these. That sort of painterly quality is something I try to put into all my work and the made-of-rock is truely your own.
The lighting and volume are again quite nice, though it is coming in pretty dark on my screen. I'm wondering if we've got a gamma difference happening. Either way I like the way you've defined out the forms.
The colors are still running a little hot for my tastes, (Though again it could be due to a gamma difference.) I'd like to see the saturation taken out just a hair, especially on some of those greens.
Lastly the perspective is a little wonky on some of your volumes. I can see a flattenting out around the forehead and brow that I believe is a direct result of non comfority in your perspective. If you use the chin as a starting point and work your lines out from there it'd give the thing a slight worm's eye view and really give us a sense of his mass.
Thanks for sharing and let's see some more!
Brian
SamusNeo
November 14th, 2002, 08:11 PM
Awesome work. The pic has a lot of atmosphere. I saved it and then proceeded to check it out close up, and I have to say it looks even better when you get close to all the detail, the more visible eye is perfect. It's nice to see a good take on a classic character. Keep it up.
ChadTHX1138
November 14th, 2002, 08:12 PM
Nice work on your site. I really like the cutaway of the arm, very cool.
stalecracker
November 14th, 2002, 10:39 PM
Brian-
Thanks for the crit. I KNEW something was off. I think I had stared at the image too long. After you pointed out the forehead It was like, "DUH!!!" This is a quick pass at fixing the forehead. I'll probably noodle with it more later tonight. As for the color... It is coming out darker and a little more saturated on my home monitor. I need to check the calibration on my on at work. I fiddled with the brightness/contrast a little to approximate what I saw on the monitor at work.
SamusNeo & ChadTHX1138: Thanks! Glad you liked it. The cutaway of the arm was done for the PC Game SiN by Ritual Entertainment.
Here's the temp updated Franky-
http://www.imagemagician.com/images/stalecracker/Forum_Images/Franky_ImpSuggestion.jpg
Batteram
November 14th, 2002, 11:43 PM
Looks like I am not the only one who has been experimenting with light lately. Your rendition of frankenstein is pretty damn cool, and I love the chin!
I now know that light is one of the most important factors when doing concepts/art etc, because without a good light source, you just have a plain picture.
Anywayz, great effort!
Imp Head
November 14th, 2002, 11:52 PM
Yes, the colors are MUCH better. All the detail is starting to come out of the shadows!
I'd preferr to see it taken a tad bit more but it's getting more into a person preference thing at this point.
Also, if you ARE going to go in and noodle a bit, I've found that nice specular highlights on the bits like the nose and the chin, etc add a lot of character to these type of pieces... But in doing so you'll lose that stone-like quality so be careful with it.
The perspective thing is looking better too. Again I'd like to see it taken a little further to really build the volume on the forhead but again, personal preference.
Can't wait to see the next installment.
Brian
Lono
November 15th, 2002, 02:29 AM
Joel! this is sweeeet!
i love the lighting on the chin and neck area.
it looks like really dead and leathery flesh.
the color correction helped.
good to see you posting stuff again!
hey man,,, im gonna be in your neck of the woods this sunday. lets get some dinner! it would be nice to see a farmilliar face out in cali.
looks like i may be mooving out there aswell. :)
Woooord!
-Lono
Jason Manley
November 15th, 2002, 03:13 AM
try introducing your warm green color into the backround as an atomospheric color...just a bit....
look at works of the impressionists to see what i mean.
right now that color is isolated only on the figure...with as much atmosphere as you are introducing into the figure the image might be more unified if there were a hint of warms in the background as well.
the foreground shoulder melts a bit quick as well...some suggestion of where it goes might help it as well.
you did a decent job of getting the violets and pthalo greens into the figure and background at the same time though.
j
cpo
November 15th, 2002, 07:02 AM
hmm i like this pic...
(reminds me of a Frank in my class :rolleyes: )
JoshuaTheJames
November 17th, 2002, 06:47 PM
hey,
i like the textures in the greens!
-Joshua
Vhy
November 17th, 2002, 07:32 PM
nice job
I think the issue with the forhead is that it's lighter in comparison to areas like the top of the chin which have a similar contour.
paintover:
http://home.cardwell.tk:8080/usr/bencardwell/stalecracker_paintover.jpg
amphex
November 17th, 2002, 08:41 PM
Haha, awesome interpretation =D
Good work, I love the skin texture =)
nova
November 18th, 2002, 09:33 AM
awe, cute :) those eyes are perfect.. they really make the character, or something. only thing i would suggest is using a dark color in place of some of all that black. a lot of possible detail is hidden in there [unless that's what you wanted.. hair takes a lot of time :)]. maybe it's my monitor, eh.
Octave13
November 18th, 2002, 10:19 AM
This is beautiful, man. I'm seeing a little bit of a Simon Bizley/Glenn Fabry influence in this. Nothin' wrong with that, their work is excellent. Post more.
stalecracker
November 18th, 2002, 03:19 PM
OK... I worked into it a little more (about 10 minutes worth) over the weekend. I appreciate everybodies input!
http://www.imagemagician.com/images/stalecracker/Forum_Images/Franky_ImpSuggestion2.jpg
BTW- does anyone know "THE" way to calibrate a monitor successfully?
Imp Head
November 18th, 2002, 04:16 PM
BTW- does anyone know "THE" way to calibrate a monitor successfully?
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Brian
stalecracker
November 18th, 2002, 06:25 PM
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