View Full Version : Portland Studios--Revelation 20
bmcallister
January 10th, 2004, 01:07 PM
Thought you would enjoy this. By Justin Gerard of Portland Studios. All Photoshop.
We're entering it in Spectrum and Expose. After a little more development and finishing off.
Any thoughts? I have some, but I'll retain them til I hear what you all have to say.
Brannon
http://bensfriends.bigbluehat.com/portlandstudios/archives/images/Revelation20_v3800.jpg
Flexible Elf
January 10th, 2004, 01:13 PM
Real nice pic. Only a couple things I saw. Since it's a one on one battle it seems like you should see the face of the angel guy a bit more with some sort of expression? The dragon's face is so pronounced and you can see his reaction but the angel's head looks a bit tucked into the armor. Also inside the dragon's mouth it looks like it could use a bit more detail, like some specular highlights on the back of the teeth and the contours/small drop shadows and highlights of the roof of his mouth. Right now it looks like a contiguous flat shape from tooth to gums.
Cool stuff!
-Flexible Elf
cycrincy
January 10th, 2004, 01:42 PM
JAHOVA !!!!! THATS AMAZING! (my new backround) heh
alex_86
January 10th, 2004, 02:19 PM
Edit:Here is what I meant.
Elf i think you are splitting hairs here. In my opinion none of that stuff is nearly important enough to mention. In fact I dont find those things a problem at all. The image is of a great style and i love it. The end.
Archangelus
January 10th, 2004, 02:52 PM
This is absolutely awesome work.
Great drama!
I must say I strongly agree with meDrawUC in regards to Flexible Elf's comments.
This work is quite good in its skill and execution of theme. The composition is excellent.
Kudos to Justin on this credible and stunning piece of work.
JFS
January 10th, 2004, 03:24 PM
Excellent! i DO however think the face of the angel should be more visible.
and to the crit-the-crit'ers: It was his oppinion, you have little right to crit others crits.. unless theyre direct insults or similar (don't think theres a rule for this.. but it's more about being polite)
bhuddistmonk
January 10th, 2004, 04:42 PM
I like how the face of the angel isnt more visible. It ads to the style and gives him an air of complete concentration. I love it.
Eyal
January 10th, 2004, 04:54 PM
i think flexible elf's remark concerning the dragon head is relevant but for the reason of composition, it should get more feedback from the angle in the form of light. my eyes moved away from the head too quickly down to the slicy stuff. if the tip of the nose had a brighter reflect it may help focus the attention better.
i do agree that the angle's hidden face is a bit of a miss, since he is the 'hero' of this image.
the detail on the shield is beautiful
JackalAnubis
January 10th, 2004, 05:43 PM
wow that is really awesome! the crit I have is that with such strong light glaring off the back of the angel I expected to see some brighter light breaking out of the clouds. maybe add a bit of pure light peeking out (not like a "beam" or lens flare) whatever just a thought
Loga4
January 10th, 2004, 06:44 PM
Wow,excellent!
jezelf
January 10th, 2004, 08:19 PM
he he - well we seem to have different opinions here - which is great of course.
I DO think that Flexible Elf's remarks are valid - the only thing that spoils this image for me is the inside of the dragon's mouth - I think everything else is wonderful.
you've gone to the trouble to create a great image, and it make me want to look at it more - so I get drawn into the picture, but my illustion of reality is shattered by the backs of the dragon's teeth looking flat. its a shame because every other form is discribed so well.
in respect to the dude - I guess it could have been more dramtic if the guy had his right arm swung back ready to strike his sword and perhaps his head back, twisted a bit to the left with his eyes down and perhaps a war cry - but this guy's got wings and, and a shield embelem which all suggest things more saintly and claming than barbaric. so he's in control and it's a fight of good V evil kind of thing.
anyway I dont think that's much of a problem only the dragon's teeth are for me.
hope you get it into Spectrum and Expose. I hoped to do something for 'em myself, but time is against me. good luck
best wishes
Jez.
Shadowkiller
January 10th, 2004, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by Flexible Elf
Real nice pic. Only a couple things I saw. Since it's a one on one battle it seems like you should see the face of the angel guy a bit more with some sort of expression? The dragon's face is so pronounced and you can see his reaction but the angel's head looks a bit tucked into the armor. Also inside the dragon's mouth it looks like it could use a bit more detail, like some specular highlights on the back of the teeth and the contours/small drop shadows and highlights of the roof of his mouth. Right now it looks like a contiguous flat shape from tooth to gums.
Cool stuff!
-Flexible Elf
bmcallister
yes if your trying to make a seen out of this pic in like a comic strip, but when it a pic done like this your focis is on the knights actions and the suroundings
If the Knight face is more visiable the knight my look like hes starying of into space, this way hes look right at the dragon. The way I see it is the knight protecting his face by keeping it low and behind the sheild.
I say don't change a thing the position that the knight in is great. Love the pic keep up the great work love to see more of this style
P.s everyone like something differen't, you can please everyone
Grifter730
January 11th, 2004, 12:33 AM
Gotta agree with Elf on the comment about the dragon. As much as I love the pic, what Elf mentioned are valid points. It's nitpicking, but that's what separates the masters I suppose. Even if the dragon's teeth are black, it should at least have some red from the fire, and as Elf said, it should be clear that the teeth are separated instead of a contiguous flat shape.
As far as the angel's face goes, I personally think it's fine, since he's looking down at the dragon anyway.
I LOVE those wings, shield and sword... man... wow...
Matt Elder
January 11th, 2004, 02:49 AM
Wow that is wonderful! Do you have any other images that you've done that we can have a look at?
Seraph
January 11th, 2004, 04:21 PM
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!
THAT IS SO EXTREMELY AWESOME!!!
t i m
January 11th, 2004, 05:16 PM
gg..stuff like this makes me want to throw my art matrials out.. change my major..and move to Oregon and become a pharmacist...:D Absolutely spectacular work...truly humbling.
Kress
January 11th, 2004, 07:48 PM
huhuh... huh... uuhh... heh.heh haha..hahahaaa.. HAH! HAHAAAAAAA!
word... cant find anything wrong
jca
January 12th, 2004, 02:00 AM
yea man, what's up with his cardboard teeth?
Forge
January 12th, 2004, 04:25 AM
administrators make it recruit to Legendary hero !!
-The Swift-
January 12th, 2004, 04:48 AM
w-o-w! truly awesome. no crit just praise!:D :D :D :D :D :D
Flexible Elf
January 12th, 2004, 07:18 PM
I thought there was an OOH's and AAAAHHH's!! forum up top! :)
Yeah the picture is very nice. If I didn't like it I wouldn't have posted on it.
Like any crits I give or get, any can be taken with a grain of salt. I was only pointing out a couple of little things that stood out to me.. yeah they're minor. But I'm not trying to be a jerk about it. I enjoy hearing constructive criticism. I learn a lot by people who are of different schools of thought on the matter and enjoy hearing from them. I'd like to think other artists like to hear the same. I thought and still think they're valid crits despite the work already being well executed. I'm sorry if I pissed anyone off.
-Flexible Elf
marc-pierre
January 13th, 2004, 12:22 PM
just P-E-R-F-E-C-T !!!
bwkeough
January 13th, 2004, 12:37 PM
colors, composition and drama are excellent, fabulous even.
I agree about the inside of the dragon's mouth, the teeth on the far side are too flat and their shapes are much more simple, enough to look like a different form than the teeth closest to the viewer.
The angel needs work tho. His colors and textures are superb but the anatomy is muddy. The shield arm (left) and left leg should not both be able to fit behind the shield in this manner given the angle of the shoulder in front of his face. I would suggest the artist draw out the body completely and then place the shield in front of it. The grip on the sword is wrong. I think the wings and feathers can be better.
I'm not trying to be harsh, but this image is worth working to your utmost ability.
Main Loop
January 13th, 2004, 01:31 PM
i agree with the cardboard teeth thing.. and the clouds are looking a bit flat also... other than that its Spectrum-worthy..
alex_86
January 13th, 2004, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by JackalAnubis
wow that is really awesome! the crit I have is that with such strong light glaring off the back of the angel I expected to see some brighter light breaking out of the clouds. maybe add a bit of pure light peeking out (not like a "beam" or lens flare) whatever just a thought
I...disagree...with...that notion. Eh, heh, good this time? :D
The thing is he's an angel right, so he has to have something to represent his holiness and his spirit. I think the fact that the light appears to originate from him does that very well.
JackalAnubis
January 13th, 2004, 08:43 PM
meDraw- yah I know, I just thought I'd throw in my opinion there. praise is awesome but it's always good to hear what people think about your stuff, whether you want to value those opinions or not is your discretion. and artists can take liberties and create stuff like auras and whatnot. I guess I said that because the glow is coming off his back from the sky. whatever, amazing drawing that really speaks for itself
heiesuke
January 14th, 2004, 12:11 AM
awe[fricken]some
behemot5
January 14th, 2004, 03:33 PM
:thumbsup:
alex_86
January 14th, 2004, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by JackalAnubis
meDraw- ...I just thought I'd throw in my opinion there...
Ya, same here, is there a problem? :huh:
and...
Originally posted by JackalAnubis
...whether you want to value those opinions or not is your discretion...
Ya, I know, as is the case here. :fruit:
FFS
January 15th, 2004, 03:55 PM
i feel that the clouds could use a little work maybe to emphasise the effect of good vs evil just to make the clouds seems slightly lighters from within to add contrast also i agree with the others about the teeth and i also have a little problem with what i think is a foot coming out from beneath the sheild it just seems if it is a foot far too large for the angel thing
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