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vr2310e
January 27th, 2010, 01:55 PM
I m a normal human being. Though I had a mental councelling...diagonised with anaskaski traits(either very happy or very sad)

this problem was there with me from very childhood.
I wasnt good at studies.
I had many crushes.
Had lot of dreams abt them sometimes wet dreams too.
By the age 16, my perception abt looking at female totally changed.
I got into an affordable small animation college now.
before college i never had a female friend .... except one who knew that i m good at drawing......but then she came to know abt this late.
and Then in collge every thing favoured me.
Slowly I start talking to girls.....they were amazed by my arts and philosophy.
But again I had trouble talking to the special one.
It was tough.
But one day I proposed her.........my proposing style was meta level philosophical style....and she missunderstood.
She told I m the reason to bother her.
My heart was broken again.
Every body came to know abt this.
Ya i lost but I was considered as a hero and glad that not psycho, this time.
And now again I had a crush.
It was tough to talk to her too.
but i made a potrait and send her a facebook request....she accepted.
But she doesnt talk ...seems she has lot of friends out there.
........this was my story.


My problems:
When I am talking to a girl--
1/ My voice becomes unnatural low pitched like a girl.....very embrassing.
2/inner confidence go down.
3/dont know what to speak......i usually forget all my philosophy.
4/never find that girl alone......either she is with some friends or busy with mobile.

Sadly speaking :( I have had never touched a girl in my life......im 19.

Help me with ur valuable suggestion.
I m sure u must be laughing reading this.......but it totally opposite here.
thanks

Armonah
January 27th, 2010, 02:35 PM
What I'm wondering is, why are you posting this? Or rather, on the first day you registered here. It's very unusual for new users (who aren't trolls) to make a new thread here, let alone pouring their hearts out. :P

But to give you the benefit of the doubt: You're not afraid to talk to girls, it's only the one you're having a problem with, because you have a crush on her. And I think it's something many, if not all of us can relate to, because it's one thing to get turned down when you ask a girl out, it's a whole 'nother story when she means the world to you.

As for you not having touched a girl before at age 19, it'll happen someday. Just live your life, and the right one will cross your path. It might sound a bit cliché, but it only gets said this often because it's true: you're still very young, and you really have all the time in the world to find the person who's right for you.

Ian Barker
January 27th, 2010, 02:42 PM
1/ My voice becomes unnatural low pitched like a girl.....very embrassing.
2/inner confidence go down.
3/dont know what to speak......i usually forget all my philosophy.
4/never find that girl alone......either she is with some friends or busy with

dude this is the same for everybody. Just relax, there's no hurry. Just be friendly to her if you like her, and if she's not friendly back, move on. It's not a race, it's something that happens naturally.

wassermelone
January 27th, 2010, 03:10 PM
Because girls are icky and got cooties.

dpaint
January 27th, 2010, 03:24 PM
Because you think shes sweet and if she knew what you wanted to do to her she would say no way?

vr2310e
January 27th, 2010, 03:30 PM
i dont know exacty if i m right or wrong..
But I do feel Inferior before her.....and sometimes before other *girls too.

*girls who r beautiful.

This infiriority complex is my problem....and sure many in this world has same problem..

And I dont want stay like a kid forever.....I want to be a man...

Today I m going to send a friend request to one of my old class mate.(her hair smells like jazmin) for sure she dont remember me.
lets see what happen.......
Liffy-U r suggestion made me feel postive..thanks

Armonah--Thanks for wrighting.......I signed up this forum 1weak ago.....never had any idea of what to do......then suddenly same prob arise....thats why i created this thread.

@wassermellon - superb dialogue.......... I m going to write it big in a paper and when ever i m depressed i ll look at it.....yo man!

vr2310e
January 27th, 2010, 03:35 PM
Because you think shes sweet and if she knew what you wanted to do to her she would say no way?

she would definitely say that ,cause i m ugly. I hate my chubby chicks.

gredgie
January 27th, 2010, 03:38 PM
Everyone has different notions of what "beauty" is.

You shall never know, until you ask!

Besides, if you can work out if they're actually nice people (some "beautiful" ladies also come boxed with a huge ego), then you'll know how she's likely to respond to your requests and such.

Nice girls generally don't want to tear your stomach open and feed on your intestines. ;)

Kraus
January 27th, 2010, 03:50 PM
Because you're going into it with a romantic interest in mind. The trick is to be non-chalant and unapologetic, and most of all...not having any concious intentions. Basicly the less you give a damn the more uninhibited you are.

In fact when you feel you need to perform because some girl just ambushed you with a conversation, convince yourself she's an unworthy dumbass, this will put you in outmost ease. Eliminate any insecurity with arrogance.

Now run get some chick you know in a headlock, and give her a noogie..

vr2310e
January 27th, 2010, 03:50 PM
Everyone has different notions of what "beauty" is.

You shall never know, until you ask!

Besides, if you can work out if they're actually nice people (some "beautiful" ladies also come boxed with a huge ego), then you'll know how she's likely to respond to your requests and such.

Nice girls generally don't want to tear your stomach open and feed on your intestines. ;)


ya u r right.
but one problem with nice girl- they say i ll get a better girl them.....in this way they nicely get rid of me. how sad.

ChristianWeeks
January 27th, 2010, 04:19 PM
I agree with armonah but ill give you the benefit of the doubt as well.

confidence = key
you gotta do stuff to build up your confidence. Focus on all of your positive qualities (like art).

My suggestion: start going to a gym and lifting weights. It won't necissarily get you girls, but it will definitely help you build your own self-esteem up. When I started lifting weights I was embaressed because of how weak I was, but once you can get past that initial fright and get into the groove, its extremely helpful. The gradual improvement really gives you a sense of accomplishment, and its very satisfying once you can actually see a physical difference. Once you get more confidence in yourself, girls become much simpler. You absolutely CANNOT see yourself as being inferior. They are just people.

Ryan K
January 27th, 2010, 04:20 PM
You just need to bang out a few hood-rats. Just keeeding.

:)... I say don't try so hard - it's easy to do. And when she see's that you're not paying FULL attention to her, she'll know that she hasn't gained instant power over you. If you automatically assume full attention, the game is over. She get's bored and goes on to the next challenge (or rather find a challenge because you just rolled over). Don't act like a dog just because she's got that "come here boy" tone in her voice.

Armonah
January 27th, 2010, 04:24 PM
start going to a gym and lifting weights. It won't necissarily get you girls, but it will definitely help you build your own self-esteem up. When I started lifting weights I was embaressed because of how weak I was, but once you can get past that initial fright and get into the groove, its extremely helpful. The gradual improvement really gives you a sense of accomplishment, and its very satisfying once you can actually see a physical difference.
Kind of like learning to draw...

B u r l
January 27th, 2010, 05:25 PM
take up weight lifting. who needs personality when you can flex your massive biceps?

really; eating healthy, drinking lots of water and exercise will do wonders for your mind and body.

ArtZealot
January 27th, 2010, 05:34 PM
This probably applies toward more thing than just talking to girls. In my opinion, the most important thing is doing whatever gives you the confidence you need to turn off all the fear and doubt in your head. The challenge is finding the path to that, cause it's different for everyone.

Cherry_Cheesecake100
January 27th, 2010, 05:52 PM
You're having trouble because you're in that mindset that you just HAVE to get that girlfriend or else you're not a real man! Or something like that. It's really not a big deal to not have a girlfriend in your teens, so stop freaking out about it. Relax, get to know some girls as friends, and maybe you'll hit it off with one of them. In the mean time go draw.

Question, why are you writing like that? Why no apostrophes and so many ....? Why do you write like you're writing a poem?

Mitze
January 27th, 2010, 05:59 PM
Women are not really that dangerous they are kinda human. Its your ego that is the problem. Its all in your head.

tobbA
January 27th, 2010, 06:02 PM
Hey. I'm 21. Never had a girlfriend...

Not like I haven't tried. But uh. It's all pancakes. So now I figure there's no need to push it. I tend to run in the oppisite direction whenever a girl shows interest in me nowadays. It's not worth the trouble...

Roboko
January 27th, 2010, 06:35 PM
Just think of girls as brains inside meat machines, because that's all that people really are. Nothing to be afraid of.

Jovian M
January 27th, 2010, 08:17 PM
Girls have low-pitched voices, where you live?

Check their plumbing; you might be in for a surprise.

Dorkthrone
January 27th, 2010, 10:54 PM
Girls have low-pitched voices, where you live?

Check their plumbing; you might be in for a surprise.

I was just about to say something like that.

Anurizm
January 27th, 2010, 11:17 PM
google David D'angelo he will help you.

Amber Alexander
January 28th, 2010, 01:30 AM
Women are not really that dangerous they are kinda human.

Kinda human LOL

Ninjerk
January 28th, 2010, 02:12 AM
Treat them like they're anyone else you know and as my friend told me recently (though I've heard it before), "Laugh the pants right off them."

vr2310e
January 28th, 2010, 02:12 AM
thanks all for writing.....

how to improve my selfimage?
ok growing biceps - thats not possible for me - i m just 44 kg (97 pounds)


girls have low pitched voice- well girls dont but i do.
and it seems like a shy girl who isveryhesistant

to all:
your suggestion is really good one. lets see if i can apply it to real life.

some i feel what if earth is going to be destroyed in 2012 and i am left with no girl friend.

George Abraham
January 28th, 2010, 03:27 AM
Be intimidating not the intimidated. Or atleast don't sucker for girl intimidation.

You afraid of the PAN? Well that's your homones. Madonna stole PAN's horns and made a corset out of it. ;P

Just relax around girls and don't make more of them than there is. Some will test, momentarily smothering you with special attention or something. If you take the bait they lose interest just don't go there.

Look for down to earth girls that's easy to talk to and be friends with. The girls I referred to before are all a little crazy anyway and will grow out of it eventually, at the time they might seem like the cool crowd but they are actually insecure whaco's. The female version of the male delemma you have. Just wait them out. Spending time with them will only put you in a looney bin unless you learn not to take them seriousely at all(Like their current boyfriends)

Go for the girls who's homework your'e copying. Who likes it when you pay attention to them etc, who's not behaving in topsy turvy. That's what I would do if I had a time machine. LOL!!

TASmith
January 28th, 2010, 04:22 AM
Am I the only one who sees vr2010 as a bot? They're evolving people! I'm telling you!

Seriously, treat women with the utmost respect, and secretly don't care what anyone thinks. Then you won't worry. Then you're more fun to be around.

Brashen
January 28th, 2010, 05:35 AM
I are very sadding :(

Dorkthrone
January 28th, 2010, 06:45 AM
Am I the only one who sees vr2010 as a bot? They're evolving people! I'm telling you!


If so, this is the world's most depressing bot.

Black Spot
January 28th, 2010, 06:49 AM
Get to know a number of girls as friends first. How the heck can you know if you want them as a girlfriend if you have no idea what they're like as a person? We don't bite and do occasionally like the company of guys and looks don't mean a lot if you make us laugh.

Crane
January 28th, 2010, 10:41 AM
You do realise they are just girls right? stop giving a shit what people think of you (this doesn't mean start acting like a douche btw) and ACT LIKE YOU WANNA ACT. Pedestals are not fun places for (most) girls.

ArtZealot
January 28th, 2010, 11:56 AM
Get to know a number of girls as friends first. How the heck can you know if you want them as a girlfriend if you have no idea what they're like as a person? We don't bite and do occasionally like the company of guys and looks don't mean a lot if you make us laugh.

Having girls as friends is cool, gender should have no bearing on friends, the only thing to be mindful of though is if theres one that you'd like as more than a friend, make sure and tell her sooner than later.

If you take too long, you'll enter the "friends zone" which makes telling your true feelings to her difficult and understandably akward. Its easy to stay friends, but dont waste time telling her how u feel. Its kind of like pulling off a bandaid, it's much easier if you just do it quickly. Just be mindful of the setting, dont just blurt it out in front of her friends in the mall or anything and you'll be fine.

jrr
January 28th, 2010, 12:01 PM
nut up.

Crane
January 28th, 2010, 12:01 PM
Yeah, the dreaded 'friend zone' very bad place to be if you want something more.

corky13
January 28th, 2010, 12:31 PM
44kg is no resaon not to go to the gym...heck , you absolutely should and also think about your diet...you need to bulk up, 44 is unhealthy (except you`r about 1,60m big but then there wouldn`t be a problem). Just be sure to check with a doctor first so you don`t run headfirst into your first accident.

Lifting weights and living healthy will transform your body along with your mind. You know the ancient greek saying = "A healthy mind in a healthy body" ? In the end , if you want to make the most of your mind you need to take care of your body and health. Self-esteem doesn`t grow from nothing. (also I totally agree with a certain , hilarious Arnold Schwarzenegger interview...the "Pump" is enourmously satisfying)

And if you`re still insisting that everything is miserable think positive and tell yourself = Maybe it is better for the girls not to be with me because of the way I am right now. I was a real ass a few years ago because I let my insecurities take the upper hand.

Dorkthrone
January 28th, 2010, 12:33 PM
Seriously, you can just be friends with girls. You don't have to fall madly in love with everyone you see.
Just try striking up a few conversations and see where it takes you.

Anurizm
January 28th, 2010, 01:00 PM
Here will give you advice http://www.doubleyourdating.com/ he also has audio lectures that are amazing. Seriously check this out.

Bill
January 28th, 2010, 02:25 PM
We don't bite and do occasionally like the company of guys and looks don't mean a lot if you make us laugh.

There was a line in the movie 'Extract' along the lines of: "Women all say they're not into looks they just want a man who can make them laugh, but then they stand around and laugh at whatever the really good looking dumb guys sais."

Any woman I've ever been interested in is someone I've outweighed nearly 2 to 1, and they still scare the heck out of me.

I think the trick, as with everything else, is to not overthink it. As Maverick once said "You think up there, you're dead."

Camilla
January 28th, 2010, 05:06 PM
Just think that it is very likely that the girls are just as insecure as you are (although it may not show).
Don't be too desperate. That will scare most people away. Just be nice and as relaxed as possible.
Don't pretend to be something you are not. It will show, and besides, it is you she is supposed to fall in love with, right?
Building muscles? Who cares? But do it if it makes you feel good.

And we are generally not monsters who tear guys apart and eat their flesh - except on certain occasions :-)

Burtzum
January 28th, 2010, 06:58 PM
Shes made of the same molecules you are. What is there to be afraid of. Just a glob of oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, and a few other things. A sexy glob of oxygen, carbon, hydrogen... Tell her that she is the most exquisite glob of molecules you have ever seen and that you must thoroughly analyze and document her. :lifedrawing:

They fall for that line every time.

vr2310e
January 29th, 2010, 12:51 AM
Feels like I was desperate enough.
I had 21 crushes till now. Some of them were even older than me.
I learnt that if u dont get a girl then u r not happy but the good news is you ll become an artist.
The reason I love all of my crushes is because they gave me moments and those moment were some how improved to my personality and works.
I am really thankfull for so many commets.......i could nt reply individually.
most of all gave comment with diff kind of attituted. But every body had same concern.
I ll try be like all u said , atleast once.......and then see which one i adapted the most.
Its going to be fun I guess.
Some times I feel I should increase my crushes no. Cause that is why I m better know for.
May Be I ll be know for it in future.
keep writing........

DeadlyFreeze
January 29th, 2010, 12:53 AM
Maybe your just playing on the wrong team champ.

corky13
January 29th, 2010, 01:51 AM
Maybe your just playing on the wrong team champ.

<- this might be true

Slash
January 29th, 2010, 02:22 AM
I've found that becoming tall, dark, handsome, athletic, intelligent, confident, articulate, sharply dressed and rich helps a lot.

the_jos
January 29th, 2010, 03:09 AM
You know what helps? Practice.
It's like drawing, the first times you make drawings you dare not show to anyone. Just show them anyway, people will understand they are not perfect. In time you will get better.

Sure, this is not easy when you really like someone and don't want to make mistakes or look stupid.
However, maybe the biggest mistake you can make is not getting in closer contact.
You don't know what she is thinking, all you know is what you are thinking.

Bill
January 29th, 2010, 03:12 AM
I've found that becoming tall, dark, handsome, athletic, intelligent, confident, articulate, sharply dressed and rich helps a lot.

Does it have to be in that order?

gredgie
January 29th, 2010, 05:47 AM
A never-fail tactic is buying her flowers.

Honestly, it's the most blatantly obvious romantic gesture and few males actually do it, much less to gals they have crushes on.

I remember waaaay back when I was in high school (okay it was like... 7 years ago), but I was in detention once where we just had to... I dunno... occupy ourselves for 2 hours or so (however long detention was back then).

Anyway, whilst I was just sat talking to my friend whom recieved detention with me (I can't recall why, I once got a detention for not going to a detention I didn't know about :D), there were other random folks in the detention room too.

Specifically one girl, randomly stated "I would absolutely love it if someone bought me flowers...", clearly talking about such things with her gal pals but still.

Go for single roses, cheesy somewhat (but chances are the girl you like has never recieved one before), but I've found that those whom I've given them to (and others that have been given them) actually keep them even when they're dead.

They're that sentimental.

So yes, today's lesson is: Flowers are the key to a girl's heart.

Tomorrow's lesson will be: Why even though it's cute, buying a girl chocolate is like throwing yourself into the pit of eternal-"Am I fat?"-fire ;D.

Slash
January 29th, 2010, 07:11 AM
It also helps to consider you're not up against some hive mind of people here. You're up against individuals with many of the same fears and insecurities as you have.

Bill, no it doesn't have to be in that order. In fact, it would probably work better in reverse order! ;)

George Abraham
January 29th, 2010, 09:56 AM
Forget the girls, get your pencil out of the closet and draw something. :lifedrawing:

Anurizm
January 29th, 2010, 10:06 AM
this is very useful, I really suggest anyone who have problems attracting or talking to women check this site out http://www.askmen.com/dating/dating_advice/

Elwell
January 29th, 2010, 10:27 AM
I learnt that if u dont get a girl then u r not happy but the good news is you ll become an artist.
It would be nice if we could see some evidence of that.

Baron Impossible
January 29th, 2010, 10:35 AM
I've found that becoming tall, dark, handsome, athletic, intelligent, confident, articulate, sharply dressed and rich helps a lot.

And in order of priority...

"I've found that becoming rich, handsome, tall, athletic, confident, dark, sharply dressed, articulate and intelligent helps a lot"

or, if that's a bit much to ask...

"I've found that becoming rich helps a lot"

Dan!
January 29th, 2010, 11:32 AM
the short answer;
No offense meant but: Get your head out of your ass and grow a pair. No girl will ever date you if you continue whining about them. Just think; the girl of your dreams is talking to someone else because you're too much of a coward to go after her.

the long answer; Although I think Slash was being sarcastic- he has a point- no girl in the history of man ever wanted to date a lazy, man-child who cant dress himself or provide for himself.

Something you have to remember is to be confident(not cocky) and if you ever go out with the mindset to "get girls" you will probably(barring you are extremely good looking or rich) go home alone- girls don't go out to "get guys" they go out to "have fun". These are people who have been offered love/sex/companionship since they were real young- they've heard it all so dont think for a second that being anything but genuine is going to work. That doesn't mean you have to throw away the 1UP shirt just maybe not wear it everyday.
In addition-girls are extremely social creatures- they have a larger social network than you could possibly achieve with your facebook,myspace,twitter combined. So "finding them alone" aside from sounding really creepy,is something you should go ahead and forget about doing. Plus a girls friends are very important to her so if you cant handle the wolf pack you will find yourself alone. Also, if you're not a total ass-jack, and you do end up in the "friendzone" that girl will always be on the look out for someone who is "great for you". I mean come on -the company is way easier on the eyes anyway. Finally, be prepared to fail, not every girl wants to date you or even know you, or maybe they get to know you and don't like you. It's just how it is- "love is a battle field" ring bell?
And no matter what any of the jaded beta males say it is completely possible to actively date and be a nice guy and a gentleman.

Crane
January 29th, 2010, 12:09 PM
That whole 'If you don't get a girl you are unhappy' thing is complete bullshit, the only reason someone 'needs' someone else is because they aern't happy just being alone with themselves, I learned this while going through the same thing you and loads of other guys have, you need confidence, thats not based on what people think or say about you, thats not based on whether some chick turns you down.

tbh, for one, money does not matter a blinding bit, unless shes a gold digger, but tbh the majority of those are in vegas lol and looks aern't as important as people make out either, yeah sure, a girl may be attracted to a really hot guy, but is she gonna stick around is he is boring? insecure? etc etc, men are logical creatures, while girls are emotional, its about how you make them FEEL, and if YOU FEEL GOOD then THEY FEEL GOOD.

You gonna learn to be happy in your own skin, and not let what other people do or say, including the chicks you 'love', get you down. The guy who gets the girls doesn't NEED them, he WANTS them, noone likes a needy person.

and btw, girls don't reject you, they reject your approach.

PS post some art!

Black Spot
January 29th, 2010, 12:31 PM
There was a line in the movie 'Extract' along the lines of: "Women all say they're not into looks they just want a man who can make them laugh, but then they stand around and laugh at whatever the really good looking dumb guys sais."

Any woman I've ever been interested in is someone I've outweighed nearly 2 to 1, and they still scare the heck out of me.

I think the trick, as with everything else, is to not overthink it. As Maverick once said "You think up there, you're dead."

One guy I fancied in my youth had a face that looked as if it had melted, but he was funny, nice and thoughtful - shame he lived too far away then.

If you don't ask, you don't get. She can only say no and even if she does one of her friends might actually consider the possibility. Just live your life and love will eventually find you.

Clochette
January 29th, 2010, 01:37 PM
I wish i could say something useful but all that comes to my mind is "eeeeeeewww" for some reason....

Maybe quit seeing "GIRLS" like a whole could help? They're human beings, all different and with different back ground, temper and priorities. Not all the women "have a larger social network than you could possibly achieve with your facebook,myspace,twitter combined", some are shy, some are afraid to talk to others, some don't give a shit. Anyway, one of them is thinking that this whole thread is pathetic.

>____>

m@.
January 29th, 2010, 01:54 PM
Come on Clochette... there's a lot to learn in this thread!
At least now I know that I'm a lazy man-child who can't dress himself!

Dorkthrone
January 29th, 2010, 01:54 PM
Also, it would help to start seeing girls as human beings with their own thought process.

Clochette
January 29th, 2010, 02:02 PM
Come on Clochette... there's a lot to learn in this thread!
At least now I know that I'm a lazy man-child who can't dress himself!
Hopefully Massive black and Blizzard provide you clothes! :P

m@.
January 29th, 2010, 02:08 PM
and cfsl

Armonah
January 29th, 2010, 02:38 PM
how to improve my selfimage?
ok growing biceps - thats not possible for me - i m just 44 kg (97 pounds)
Just because you don't weight much doesn't mean you can't grow any muscles. In fact, muscle tissue increases your weight and considering the fact you weight even less than me, you can gain a lot from this.

some i feel what if earth is going to be destroyed in 2012 and i am left with no girl friend.
First of all, that desperate aura you're sporting is incredibly unattractive.
Secondly, this phrase makes me wonder if you like girls for who they are, or if you want a girlfriend because you somehow need to prove to yourself/your peers that you can in fact get a girl, and that you're now OMGMANLY.

Being mature is not about reaching a certain age, or reaching certain benchmarks. It's not about drinking beer, liking sports and getting laid. It's about being a responsible and sensible human being. Which sounds boring, but it goes along perfectly fine with everything else you want to get out of life.
But I do start to wonder what your motivations are, other than having a crush on her. Do you feel immature, or left out, or behind on your peers? Do you feel a need to prove yourself?

but one problem with nice girl- they say i ll get a better girl them.....in this way they nicely get rid of me. how sad.
They're telling you you're a great guy who will find an equally great girl because they like you. But unfortunately, there is a difference between liking someone as a friend or as more than a friend, and those kind of feelings can't be forced.
But the reason they're saying this is because they mean it. If they thought you were an unbearable douchebag who will die a lonely death, they would've told that instead.

A couple of things I want to say regarding cash and looks (to counter the things that've been posted before. I mean, I know most of it is in jest, but still):

I don't give a lick about money. I'm a student who dates other students, so we're all poor by default.
I know this isn't true for every woman out there, and some of them dó want a man who just can pay their paychecks, but I don't think most of us would be happy in a relationship with someone who's high maintenance, who will enter a midlife crisis around 30, with the knowledge that she doesn't love you but your money. Most people are looking for a degree of intimacy, and I doubt a relationship based on material goods can offer you that.

Looks aren't everything, either. On top of that, most people are average looking or attractive, and people considered to be ugly are very rare.

Lastly, you're not missing out on anything. And there's really no need to rush. One day (whether this is in your 20's, or earlier or later) you'll find yourself waking up next to the woman you love, and the last thing on your mind will be "I wish I nailed more girls before I met her!"

Dan!
January 29th, 2010, 03:07 PM
I wish i could say something useful but all that comes to my mind is "eeeeeeewww" for some reason....

Maybe quit seeing "GIRLS" like a whole could help? They're human beings, all different and with different back ground, temper and priorities. Not all the women "have a larger social network than you could possibly achieve with your facebook,myspace,twitter combined", some are shy, some are afraid to talk to others, some don't give a shit. Anyway, one of them is thinking that this whole thread is pathetic.

>____>

This goes without saying does it not? Is my whole post invalid? Should he continue fearing women and talking to their friends? I dont wish to argue but I feel you have taken offense when non was meant.

M@-that comment was obviously meant as an exaggeration and not directed anyone personally.My point was that there is a middle ground.

Clochette
January 29th, 2010, 03:34 PM
No offense taken, don't worry :) To be honest I hardly could be offended by anything in this thread, cause I am ok with all this in my life. I just wanted to emphasize the fact that it's different for everyone and there is no "rule" in the matter. I never said your post was invalid. I just see a lot of statements in that thread in general that seem quite ... far from reality. (I'm not talking about your post).
Obviously for the OP, it doesn't go without saying. He has quite an awkward picture of "girls" from what I can read, that's why i felt like posting this.
This shouldn't even be discussed... I mean, I used to be shy, but shy with everyone, not with a gender specifically. If you see people like persons, before male or female, there is no reason to fear girls. He never said he wanted a girlfriend because he felt like a relationship could make him a better person, or because he wanted to be there for someone, or whatever. He doesn't seem to want to know someone for what she is, for her person, and thoughts, etc. Just a girl, as if they were an item. Generic and hard to catch, but once you have it your life magically improves.. That's how i feel reading all this and that is kind of ... retarded.

Didn't meant to offend anyone either, I wish people could get along nicely cause there is really no reason they don't.

corky13
January 29th, 2010, 05:31 PM
I wonder how many threads will be opened once he actually has a girlfriend...Disney always stops where the real problems start

Jabo
January 29th, 2010, 05:40 PM
Yeah, after the Beast turned human again, I bet he had a lot to catch up with Belle.

ArtZealot
January 29th, 2010, 06:35 PM
I think the contention in this thread stems from the fact that theres probably no one piece of advice or one magical thing thats going to tell you how to get over your fear.

95% of it i think you gotta figure out for yourself, which is why theres such widely varying advice. I think in the long run its just going to boil down to good ol' fashioned, non electronic, trial and error.

Listen to your heart! (or whatever organ this fear is stemming from), and i think you'll find the way from point A to point B does in fact exist.

slimehose
January 29th, 2010, 06:57 PM
thanks all for writing.....

how to improve my selfimage?
ok growing biceps - thats not possible for me - i m just 44 kg (97 pounds)



Dude, i'm pretty much a human rake and for some reason girls still find me attractive... Personality, Confidence (which you can build on) and a Clean Haircut wins i say...

Your most likely to put on weight as you get older, metabolism slows down. Why would you want to date a girl who doesn't like you cause your thin anyway? It's an obese society, everyone is complaining about how fat they are...

slimehose
January 29th, 2010, 07:00 PM
"I wish I nailed more girls before I met her!"

This is hilarious ha ha ha

George Abraham
January 30th, 2010, 01:11 AM
For womanz a social network = sane, Sory to say.. Their still a whole big collection of crazy.

Don't fall for that Female Monarch crap.

Look for the ones that's approachable and not out thinking about boys every day and put your penis in the shelf untill you are 50 and focus on fun and stuff, what you want to do with your life etc. You don't want to have every relationship you have turn out to be a battle in disguise.

I'm obviousely over eggaterating but it's a point of view. Hehehehe.. and teasing a little. Just relax and hang out with the crouds that cool with you.

Getting a woman and having children is one of the easier things that can happen to you in life. Just relax and wait for it. Persuing your life goals beyond that is the harder stuff.

This is most prolly the hardest thing to follow for a young male adult but yah... There's some pretty awesome girl friends waiting out there for you but don't expect to bang them all, ... in a day.

KingElvis
January 30th, 2010, 06:00 AM
Ask yourself, why are you afraid of beautiful girls? Do you have the same feelings when dealing with not so attractive girls? Whys that? Maybe youll find a wrong assumption youre holding.
Also, ask yourself, whats the worst that can happen? Imagine you say or do smth "stupid". I mean, if she really judges you because youre being a little nervous, what the heck. Then maybe shes not the right type. Dont put her on a pedestal.

Plus, Be yourself, dont try to pretend youre somebody else. Thats not gonna work.

And besides, there are things that are MUCH more important than girls. That depends on your lifes values of course. But Id try to not make girls the most important thing in my life.

Crash
January 30th, 2010, 06:20 AM
First of all, that desperate aura you're sporting is incredibly unattractive.
Secondly, this phrase makes me wonder if you like girls for who they are, or if you want a girlfriend because you somehow need to prove to yourself/your peers that you can in fact get a girl, and that you're now OMGMANLY.

Being mature is not about reaching a certain age, or reaching certain benchmarks. It's not about drinking beer, liking sports and getting laid. It's about being a responsible and sensible human being. Which sounds boring, but it goes along perfectly fine with everything else you want to get out of life.
But I do start to wonder what your motivations are, other than having a crush on her. Do you feel immature, or left out, or behind on your peers? Do you feel a need to prove yourself?


They're telling you you're a great guy who will find an equally great girl because they like you. But unfortunately, there is a difference between liking someone as a friend or as more than a friend, and those kind of feelings can't be forced.
But the reason they're saying this is because they mean it. If they thought you were an unbearable douchebag who will die a lonely death, they would've told that instead.

A couple of things I want to say regarding cash and looks (to counter the things that've been posted before. I mean, I know most of it is in jest, but still):

I don't give a lick about money. I'm a student who dates other students, so we're all poor by default.
I know this isn't true for every woman out there, and some of them dó want a man who just can pay their paychecks, but I don't think most of us would be happy in a relationship with someone who's high maintenance, who will enter a midlife crisis around 30, with the knowledge that she doesn't love you but your money. Most people are looking for a degree of intimacy, and I doubt a relationship based on material goods can offer you that.

Looks aren't everything, either. On top of that, most people are average looking or attractive, and people considered to be ugly are very rare.

Lastly, you're not missing out on anything. And there's really no need to rush. One day (whether this is in your 20's, or earlier or later) you'll find yourself waking up next to the woman you love, and the last thing on your mind will be "I wish I nailed more girls before I met her!"



BINGO!!!

i was single until i was in my 20's and i was REALLY wanting a girl before that, i tried oh so many times and failed more than i tried. but then i came to the conclusion to that if i think about getting a girl every fucking day i will get to desperate and who would like to be around a guy that is "OH HAI.....I WANT YOU!!!".

Doesnt really work. So i basicly went on with my life and focusing on MORE important things than getting a partner. So now ive been in a steady relationship for almost 5 years.

Kamber Parrk
January 31st, 2010, 01:40 AM
Hey, you're an art student: hang out with the pot-heads and target chicks with low self-esteem!

Just sayin'. . .

:devil:

George Abraham
January 31st, 2010, 08:13 AM
Hehehe!!

Or it's like Manny told Sid in Ice Ace:
"Don't worry, one day you will meet a nice girl who don't have any options"

Hehehehe!!

Kraus
February 1st, 2010, 12:19 AM
And the last thing on your mind will be "I wish I nailed more girls before I met her!"


Quit feeding the boy porkypies.. Love is no replacement for sexual apetite for 'different' an 'new' things.. And the sad part is that he'll only be able to understand that once he is commited to one woman...

dennistheartist
February 7th, 2010, 09:44 AM
Maybe quit seeing "GIRLS" like a whole could help? They're human beings, all different and with different back ground, temper and priorities. Not all the women "have a larger social network than you could possibly achieve with your facebook,myspace,twitter combined", some are shy, some are afraid to talk to others, some don't give a shit. Anyway, one of them is thinking that this whole thread is pathetic.

>____>

Y'up this is true. Stop seeing all girls as one. Every girl you meet is different & unique. Some will like you, some will not. It will have be on where you fit into their lives at that moment or vice versa & will not necessarily have anything to do with you. Best advice is to practice if you want a girlfriend, I guess meaning by dating a lot. If you're too nervous to do that, then just try being friends first. It's not always bad to be a friend regardless of who tells you that. Good luck!