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RETEP
February 5th, 2004, 02:42 PM
i was talknig to my art teacher the other day when we got on the subject of wacom tablets. I was very interested in getting one of them, after seeing what they can do through this forum. but she was not interested, she told me she did not look at it as REAL art, cause she could not touch it or feel it, it just wan't the same to her. she sayed it was a tool, but not an art tool. and said its not REAL art.
-i was just wondering about wha your opinions on this subject????

RETEP
February 5th, 2004, 02:46 PM
i think i put this question in the wrong place,i am posting this in the LOUNGE.
-if you would like to respond please reply in the lounge.

Jin
February 7th, 2004, 08:28 AM
Hi,

It's doubtful your instructor could be convinced, but if you choose to argue the point with her, you might tell her:

Wacom tablets don't create art.

Graphics software doesn't create art.

Artists create art, using many tools, some of which are software and Wacom tablets and pens.

Your instructor can touch and feel a printed digital piece, and, I expect, if the piece would not have texture (physical texture) using traditonal media like watercolors for instance, it would feel the same if done digitally.

Personally, I wouldn't bother trying to argue the point with her. Some people are either inexperienced using digital media, and therefore ignorant of its capabilities, or have just made up their minds and won't ever change them.

It'll take a long time before digital media is respected as "real art", and then it won't be respected as "art" unless the particular piece meets the viewer's "requirements".

It's a tiresome debate, to say the least.

If you want to use graphics software with a Wacom tablet and pen, do it. Don't let anyone tell you it isn't worthy art. Only you know if it meets your own requirements.

By the way, many artists combine traditional media with digital media in the same piece.

Arcthurus
February 12th, 2004, 10:44 PM
As your techer said, Its aTool, like a pencil or a pen....

I think that art itself is independent from the tool you use to create....

Jin
February 12th, 2004, 11:30 PM
Hi,

Since I mentioned the fact that some artists mix traditional and digital media, I thought it might be helpful to share a message I posted at TutorAlley Forums tonight:


Dear Painter Artists,

Another wonderful site to visit is Digital Atelier® (http://www.digitalatelier.com/). The three artists of this site, Dorothy Krause, Bonny Lhotka, and Karen Schminke are writing a book on the digital mixed media processes they've developed.

The name of the book is "Digital Art Studio: Techniques for combining traditional and digital media", scheduled to be released August 2004 by Watson-Guptill.

In the meantime, you can view their art and read about their mixed media processes. It's fascinating and beautiful work and the processes are inspiring to say the least.

Click the links at the bottom of the page (the artists names) to view their work and read about how it's done.

In case you don't notice, when you go to the artists' pages a few of their paintings "rotate" when you refresh your screen (in WinXP Home/Netscape 7.1 I use Ctrl+R and there should be a similar method in other browsers, I'd expect.. or just hit Reload or Refresh). Click the Gallery link at the top of each artist's page to see more of their artwork.

To read about the processes, each artist's page has a Process link at the top of the page.

Hope you enjoy this site as much as I'm enjoying it!

(Tip: Plan on spending some time there, or making return visits to enjoy and learn!)


Maybe your instructor would enjoy visiting this site too, and learning how these three artists work. Then again, maybe she/he won't. ;)

mukkinese
February 15th, 2004, 08:57 AM
Art teachers are idiots! O.K. -some art teachers are idiots.

Learn technique from them, but take any "philosophy of art" with a giant pinch of salt.

Most of us learn our "philosophy of art" by mixing with the kind of people who do things similar to our own aspirations. -And studying those whose work we admire.

TheDirtSyndicate
February 15th, 2004, 04:20 PM
just show her some of sparth's work.
watch the bitch shit her panties when you tell her it was done with a wacom. even better, how about that one dude, i cant remember his name, www.goodbrush.com .....fuck i dont know his name. mullins i think.

TheDirtSyndicate
February 15th, 2004, 04:25 PM
show her this:
http://www.goodbrush.com/hirez_pgs/concept/concept1/capn_evil.JPG

and ask her what she thinks about it.
ask her if she truly believes that you can create this type of image with a wacom if your not a real artist.