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Living Rope
February 4th, 2004, 05:57 PM
[risque-tout]: french word for Daredevil :p

well, I had problems with this one. There's still something wrong to me. maybe with the colors, maybe with the building, I just don't know exactly... Justin and Jon, come to my rescue !!

http://livingrope.free.fr/Galeries/galeries%20Web/Daredevil-03.jpg

Atomicfate
February 4th, 2004, 05:59 PM
i think it's terrific. the only thing i notice is that his right wrist feels broken.

SkeletonDog
February 4th, 2004, 06:06 PM
I'm obviously not Jon or Justin but I'll give ya my two cent...

The right hand does looked skewed from the wrist. The left foot needs some more definition...it's at a weird angle and looks kinda like a rogue bike seat. Also where his right leg and hip join his body looks off. The hip is to high up the torso. It's right up on his ribs. I think the building looks great...perhaps the scratches should be going a different direction...they seem to be throwing off the movement also. That's all from me...hope you don't mind.

SEVANS
February 4th, 2004, 06:12 PM
Yep, his wrist is funky -it looks like your've added an extra joint.

Plus the buildings edges have a slight curve to them and this is throwing of the perspective. In most peoples minds (like mine) a building has straight walls.

I like the colour scheme, but you may need to alter the buildings colour slightly, as it is very similar to your Daredevils - so it could be on the same 'layer', lessening the depth.

Prometheus|ANJ
February 4th, 2004, 08:12 PM
Maybe push the foot forward with values. Keep those highlights in check, they tend to mess with the depth too, and can attract unecessary attention.

Living Rope
February 4th, 2004, 09:03 PM
thanx Prom' ! you're definitely right.

thx also SEVANS, SkeletonDog, Atomicfate. Those issues are obvious now that you show me.

The problem is that it all had some strength when it was still a sketch, but then I wanna give it a fine art look and everything's blown away :(

here's an example of the sketches:
http://livingrope.free.fr/Galeries/galeries%20Web/DDSketch00.jpg
Anatomicaly they look correct to me but maybe I'm wrong... What d'you think guyz ?

DarkMana
February 4th, 2004, 09:24 PM
personally:

I feel they have a feminine build to them, they seem to be a little on the thin side

but thats just my 2 cents

Ry

Seeker
February 4th, 2004, 09:46 PM
The other 2 sketches look fine. I think your WIP sketch still has the wrist/forearm problem. But the sketch does do a better job of establishing depth.

As far as his body being feminine, it doesn't look so to me. I've always felt Daredevil should have a gymnast or ballet dancer look to him rather than a typical muscle bound hero type. I think you captured him just right.

Boom
February 5th, 2004, 08:27 AM
im not a justin or a foster either...

but... i think one big problem lies in the hues, saturation and contrast of the background building. The building itself is fighting with daredevil as focal point.
With some shifts in hue, sat and value you should be able to push the building back and let daredevil be cool on his own...

This will make the composition better and will improve your illusion of depth too.

Otherwise I think it looks pretty cool actually. Very dynamic! :)

edit - duh... saw now that Sevans actually pointed out the same thing already... should read all comments before adding my own two cents... lesson learned :)

Osmus
February 5th, 2004, 04:59 PM
his hips look strange, like they are too long or look mushy or, like someone else said..too wide like a womans

Marie
February 5th, 2004, 06:17 PM
What actually seems off to me is his right foot (our left). I can't quite place my finger on it, but the perspective seems a little weird, or the way the foot is attached. If I put my hand over his right leg, it looks fine to me. I wish I could figure out exactly why I feel that way, almost want to say it looks broken, or perhaps its actually the leg. It looks that way in the colored piece and the sketch also.

Those sketches are great, love them. And I love how its so different a feel in the colored version. I keep staring at the background and seeing different things in the colors, loving what you do with the colors actually.

--marie--

Living Rope
February 5th, 2004, 08:18 PM
oOHhh, all right all right... you know what ? let's not talkabout this illo anymore. enough. If I do the counts considering every reply to this illo, I mean, the whole pic is just pure shit if I listen to everyone here !! No need to add any other 2 cent, the whole guy is a mess. Someone says the wrist is wrong, another one says the right foot, then it's the other foot, the belly's wrong, the head doesn't goes the right way then it's the scratch...

I want to go the humble way and I still want to receive good crits, but now it's just enough. I mean, I know this is definitely NOT the best pic I've done BUT please contain yourself a little bit. Every single part of this piece has been criticized now so I wanna say thank you every one and the destruction game is over.

al-x
February 5th, 2004, 08:48 PM
Hey dude...

Don't let them get to you. You're a great artist and shouldn't be bothered by them. There is obviously some strange elements in that painting, but you already knew that when you posted it.

That painting is good enough to be published and you wont have to feel ashamed about, surely you can do alot better than this. But you can't always be on top of your game.

Be proud of it and say "What the Heck" I'm a good artist even when I have a bad day."

By the way. Love those sketches, they've got a Quesadish feel to them. Really Nice!

cheers dude :chug:

Osmus
February 5th, 2004, 08:50 PM
hey man, that peice looks great! finish it! if you want to tell us how it is, use those skills i know u got ( i seen lots of your stuff) and perfect it! didn't mean to be discouraging

trevor
February 6th, 2004, 01:45 AM
the pic is great man
i love most of yer work anyways

if the crits get u down do what i do
look at their sites and see their work
ill bet money 95 percent of the negative crits cant hold a candle to your
abilities, their just talkin out of their asses
jealous jealous jealous
and if they impress you......
well take it seriously
even the best of us have bad days

Marcatili
February 6th, 2004, 08:20 AM
Hey guys...
I've gotta say that my first impression was 'DAMMIT, I wish I could do that!'
I love the textures in the background and I like the painterly feel of it. How do you do it??

In terms of people over criticising, I'm sure they were trying to help...at least your work gets a response out of people.

Oh yeah, I really like the sketches too.