Justin Timberlake tackles Janet Jackson's breast at 20 yrd line, wins superbowl.

[DanSTC]

I'll get the news story here as soon as I can find it, but basically here's what happened:

During the superbowl halftime show performance, Justin Timberlake yanked off the right-handed side of the brasierre on Janet Jackson's costume, exposing her sweaty right breast and nipple clamp for all the stadium and national television audience to see.

Fortunately, the damage was minimized due to the fact that no one with a pulse ever watches the halftime show. Even so, the damage has certainly been done to the flatworm and "people experiencing cardiac arrest from too many pork rinds" audience demographic.

Yes folks, sadly this means that the memories of such peddling schlock as the insipid Pink, Madonna, and Britney Spears gladiator battle commercial will be forever overshadowed by the bouncing black spectre of Janet Jackson's exposed titty, much to the advertiser's dismay.

Now, being a life-drawing artist, I've seen and studied more breasts than the average person, so it really isn't a shock to me. Hell, I don't even think public nudity is that big a deal, and people who react with shock to naked bodies are usually flipping out over nothing.

The enjoyment that I get out of this, of course, is how utterly stupid it is in only the most dadaistic sense of irony, and in the conniptions that the uptight "moral" middle America is no doubt going through at this very moment.

SHOCK! SCANDAL! HARLOT! SHAME! OUTRAGE!

[mtw]

Originally posted by DanSTC
The enjoyment that I get out of this, of course, is how utterly stupid it is in only the most dadaistic sense of irony, and in the conniptions that the uptight "moral" middle America is no doubt going through at this very moment.

I have a supsicion that you used irony incorrectly.

Here's a picture of it. (http://www.drudgereport.com/mattjj.htm) Is it me, or does she have a ghastly looking face?

[cotron]

so basically, the people performing can act out sexual positions, show almost every part of their bodies, but a nipple is too much? eh. i'm betting the european people reading this are laughing, because nudity is shown regularly on tv in a lot of the european countries I've been to.

[benzo]

the finale of the worst half-time show ever. fake pop stars who live off of hype have nothing to do with football. its pathetic. i wish they would can the half-time show altogether.

[DanSTC]

Originally posted by mtw

I have a supsicion that you used irony incorrectly.

I used it for lack of a better term to describe "brilliantly vebose levels of unintentionally laughable stupidity" or something to that effect, but "bulldada" isn't in the dictionary yet.

[DanSTC]

Originally posted by benzo
the finale of the worst half-time show ever. fake pop stars who live off of hype have nothing to do with football. its pathetic. i wish they would can the half-time show altogether.

The scary part is, like bioluminescent green fluid pumped into the spinal column of an emaciated corpse, this stunt probably just injected some artificial life into both of their flailing careers.

[JoshuaTheJames]

Super What?

[Azazel]

Apparently Justin Timberlake would like to apoligize for that 'wardrobe malfunction.'

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/Entertainment/story_54721.asp

Living in Australia I didn't get to see the Superbowl but I saw a screen cap of the incident and it looks to me like it was planned...unless Janet Jackson wears those little nipple covers all day (maybe she's a fan of Slaine?).

[davi]

muwhahaha and i have a mpg of it

[Skank]

Originally posted by benzo
the finale of the worst half-time show ever. fake pop stars who live off of hype have nothing to do with football. its pathetic. i wish they would can the half-time show altogether.

totally agreed

it was THE low point in a great game.

[DanSTC]

Originally posted by Skank


totally agreed

it was THE low point in a great game.

I wouldn't know. I don't even like most spectator sports.

Originally posted by davi
muwhahaha and i have a mpg of it

So do I.

Grandmas everywhere; "Oh my gosh, Michael Jackson is a girl!"

Also: Much to my (and Janet/Justin's) disappointment, I don't think anyone's really all that offended by it at this point. People are just dully shocked by it, but it was just such a contrived and stupid show-biz stunt that really, I don't think hardly anyone cares beyond cracking jokes over it.

[N D Hill]

Pop-stars are complete wastes of flesh that could be put to better use in a soilent green-like food product.

[dfacto]

OH MY GOD! MTV IS MADE OF PEOPLE!

Useless shyts who do nothing but crap like this it seems. I want to see a pop star who doesn't whine, someone who you can actually respect instead of laugh at. That's a long shot though.

Worst for me is stars who write songs that whine and complain about their lives while they live it up with more money, fame and undeserved respect than most of us will probably ever see. I'm looking at you Pink, Fred Durst, Good Charlotte, and many many more!

Btw, this was definitely staged. By MTV or by the stars I don't know, but it was staged.

[DanSTC]

Originally posted by Exo
Pop-stars are complete wastes of flesh that could be put to better use in a soilent green-like food product.

Mmm...Mariah Carrey.

[Chris J. Anderson!]

Hey everyone,

DanSTC - You wrote, "

Now, being a life-drawing artist, I've seen and studied more breasts than the average person, so it really isn't a shock to me. Hell, I don't even think public nudity is that big a deal, and people who react with shock to naked bodies are usually flipping out over nothing.

I half agree with you that public nudity isn't that much of a shock, or a big deal now days. To me, Janet's tit hanging out was great, but not too much of a shock because I see my girlfirends tits everyday. Plus I draw and paint tits all the time. In fact if your an adult who has watched porn or has a hot wife who you see naked all the time then nudity isn't going to be as shocking. But no one in here can deny the fact that before you where an adult, when you had never seen a tit in your life, that it wasn't shocking and arousing. I think that if anyone is flipping out over this it would be the parents to the children who were watching the superbowl and how , "to them" showing Janets tit was very inappropriate. To me, and most guys who are young adults and don't have kids, I don't care, show me all the tits possible. But to those people with children, it's a different story. I think the people who are flipping out over nothing are all those people who want to jump on the ban wagon of complaining about Janets tit for the sake of just complainting to take sides. In the end, it's just a tit. Enjoy it. Unless your a parent who really has a reason to get angry about it. Or an angry, sexually deprived feminist who hates men for liking to see naked women. And the half time show in sports in general is all about seeing sexy women shake it. In basketball the girls wear their high skirts and shake their pom poms and do all sorts of things while we watch and enjoy. And just in case there's any women in here, I'm not trying to come off as some guy who thinks it's great to exploit women. But at the same time, it's not wrong for a woman who feels sexy to want to shake it.

Cotron - AGREEEED!!! I want to say more, but you've said it all with just that statement!!!

Azazel - I agree, Justin exposing Janets nipple was obviously planned. They say Justin apologises for the 'wardrobe malfuncation'? I'm annoyed that anyone in the public would buy that. It's obvious that the nipple stunt he an Janet pulled was just a way to get there names in the papers next to the words, "SUPERBOWL" so people will talk about them, possibly get interviewed or get on David Letterman to talk about it, perhaps sell some more albums. It's all about fame money in the end.

I gave up watching football seriously 10 years ago because it all seemed fake to me, like people pay teams to win or loose on purpose, but I decided to glance at the game for a moment, ended up watching the whole thing, and I have to say it was a pretty rough and exciting game. It had it's moments. Still funny that the superbowl is such a big event in this country. I guess it's because it reminds people about what it's like to be the warrior in battle, reminds about confidence, the thrill of winning and the upset of defeat, the tension of trying your best, about using sheer power and strength to push your way to the end. Most people don't get to go out and do that physically so they live through it by watching the game, watching other people do it for them. Kind of like watching a movie, but this is real life, so it's different, especially of your there at front row seats.

-Chris

[DanSTC]

Originally posted by Chris J. Anderson!
Blah blah blah...

I can understand why people would take offense to something like this. I'm just saying that they're still effectively flipping out over nothing. It's just a breast for crying out loud...it's not like they killed someone onstage in a graphic orgy of blood or whatever.

As for exposure to children, unless he's formula-fed, it's nothing junior hasn't become intimately familiar with before.

I just don't understand why there's so much shame regarding the female boobs. I can understand keeping genitals covered given what we use them for, but breasts? It's kind of silly.

[Chris J. Anderson!]

DanSTC -
It's just a breast for crying out loud...it's not like they killed someone onstage in a graphic orgy of blood or whatever.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[DanSTC]

Originally posted by Chris J. Anderson!
DanSTC -

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

I'm glad you got a kick out of my happy mcfunjoke.


Also, many countries already allow female breasts to be shown on television all the time, and even allow women to go topless at beaches. We're just so puritannically uptight here in the states regarding boobies...

Additionally, I have the sneaking suspicion that Janet's breast was the supposed to be the special guest performer.

[Chris J. Anderson!]

DanSTC - Yeah, I think the States are very uptight AND hypocritical about nudity.

Hahaha! That special guest performer sure made an uproar.

[DanSTC]

Originally posted by Chris J. Anderson!
DanSTC - Yeah, I think the States are very uptight AND hypocritical about nudity.

As someone else better than me put it; "[In American entertainment] Rambo slaughtering vietcong is good clean fun, but showing some people engaged in good sex is a scandal."

[Chris J. Anderson!]

DanSTC

As someone else better than me put it; "[In American entertainment] Rambo slaughtering vietcong is good clean fun, but showing some people engaged in good sex is a scandal."

Yeah, it's a very scary notion that in America, we're allow to see someone getting their head blown off and their juicy brains splattered on a white wall, but seeing a nipple being gently caressed is a no no.

And, actually, what you said about how a child who gets breast fed sees nipples all the time, so how can a child seeing a breast be bad, I agree. Africa, in some parts, women walk around with their breasts hanging out all the time, in fact, many people in some areas are naked all the time and children see it all the time. Yet, in America, that would be bad. It's kind of ridiculous.

Whats even more ridiculous is, we aren't allowed to see breasts on tv, unless it is the science channel and they are showing a culture who's people walk around with their breasts exposed. So what does that say about how America views some other cultures?

[OLSEN]

Originally posted by DanSTC


Also, many countries already allow female breasts to be shown on television all the time, and even allow women to go topless at beaches. We're just so puritannically uptight here in the states regarding boobies...

You know, it´s not that great being bombarded with breast all the time, especially since 99% of the breasts that are shown on TV are there to sell us useless crap. I like the fact that there is no breast ban on swedish TV, but i am sad that it is used in such a way as it is.

Other then that, go breasts! (Especially yours J, if you´re reading this.. you lurker)

[DanSTC]

Look out! Boobies! http://www.micktravels.com/australia/great_barrier_reef/130-boobies.jpg

Also, tits: http://www.50birds.com/images/bb-BushTits-ab.jpg

[DanSTC]

Originally posted by OLSEN


bombarded with breasts

I'm sorry, but that line paints a really amusing picture.


Also, by the logic of our society regarding violence and sex, I think Janet could've reduced the public outrage of her exposure if she opened fire on the audience with her vicious breast.

[Carnifex]

i'd rather be shameful about that dress of her instead of her breast.:smirk:
why waste leather this way?yuck.
chris j. anderson,i envy you.;)
all breasts i've seen yet were on tv or internet(me being a horny 18-year old guy who never had a gf):rolleyes:
the most stupid thing i know is porn hotline ads on tv.it's exposing women the wrong way and just ridiculous(rtlII if you're german/austrian/have satellite tv).
go breasts!:)

[dfacto]

Yeah, those porn hotline ads are really dumb. And every channel seems to show them past 12:00.

If you are going to show porn, then at least do it right.

[Lauren Short]

what has happened is that there is a large group of people in america who are "morally upright" More like uptight, and in totally irresponsible, ignorrant, and unreasonable ways. I agree, violence is being shown everywhere, so why is it more of a "morally excepted" subject than sex? What these "moral" people are doing to the younger generations is creating unhealthy sexual behavior/tendencies/views.

Take little johnny as an example. Ok, Little Johnny was brought up to be a "fine, upstganding citizen." One day he discovers the vast, world-wide, porn industry, and its good and bad sides. He has been tought that sex is wrong unless it's to pro-create,but he likes the sight of breasts, viginas, and people partaking in sexual behavior. So what does he do? He secretly looks at porn w/o people's knowledge. It becomes his obsession. He get's so obssesed that one day he just SNAPS. But no, he cqan't have sex with a person if people find out. That would just be plain wrong! The human body isn't a beautiful work of art!(so his moral parents have tought him) So he lashes out one day and goes off and either becomes a porn freak, sexual asaulter, or gay(maybe even kills himself due to the lack of sexual knowledge he has gained).



Reason 1 why society should be more involved in a MATURE way on the topic of sex. Sure, exploitations will happen, but if there are more people that understand that the human body is more than just a sex toy, or in other cases more than just a thing our souls reside in, and is really a work of art, then i think the exploitations won't be as effective. Think about it. An exploitation is really only an exploitation because it has shock value. If more people are informed, and more people see the human body as an essential element of life, then the shock value will be gone.


so yea....point: sex is good, we wouldn't exist w/o it, and the human body is more than just a piece of meat.:chug:

[John]

Here's my 2 cents.
Sex is natural, desire of sexual contact with the opposite and sometimes the same sex is natural, and god wants us to be responsible in our sex life (my opinion, yours may differ).
I was brought up to believe that mommy and daddy likes each other very much, go to bed and all that sh*t, 9 months later and the next thing they know is they need to buy a playstation.
What people (kids) need to learn in my opinion is that there is more to sex than in, out, baby. It is a part of our daily social life. Looking at boobies and screaming "Oh my, the kids!" is as responsible as not teaching them bees and flowers. Ppl need to be more relaxed about that. If you'd show boobs without that bullsh*t softsex context they always have to be placed in, well, that'd be a start. But MTV is among the first to show sex in ways it is not.
I have a hard time with people who think sex is a status symbol or a must. I have a problem with people who think sex is forbidden.
It's there. It's part of your life. Accept it. And please, MTV: don't turn it into some kind of travesty. :rolleyes:

[Lono]

HOLY SHIT!!! its a BOOOOBIE!!!!!!


-LOno

[davi]

DanSTC you talk alot.

[Chris J. Anderson!]

Ancient Kitten
Injection

I agree, I remember having these disscussions in philisophy class. Injection - if more people were informed, the shock value would be gone like you say. Those people who hide sex and the nature of it from children, are those who I think are having the most problem with Janet's nipple. I personally think that if parents informed there children about everything, when they are ready, and inform them logically, about sex, violence, anything and everything, they will grow up to be smart, knowledgable, and not dumb asses who become the kinds of people who think Janets nipple is a big deal. They would be able to see and watch anything and everything without going crazy for learning about something too late in there life and not know how to handle the knowledge. Yeah, it shouldn't be a big deal, but to them it is because of their beliefs. It's too bad most people aren't smart about how they rasie their children. But because most people aren't smart about it, I think they (nipple haters) are the reason for why Janet's nipple is getting so much attention.

I'm not totally sure, but I think it was religion, Christianity to be more precise, that started the whole, "lets hide the human body" idea, from people. I remember when, after the Christians started to get bigger after Rome was finished, I remember learning in art history class that the Christians started to cover the Roman's statues genitals. And ofcourse with every new statue or painting done for Christian's, they covered those as well. Chrisitanity then being brought over to America in the beiginning of America's birth, melded into and caused what our society is today with the kinds of morals we have, like the so called "moral', of hiding the nude body.

injection wrote:
So he lashes out one day and goes off and either becomes a porn freak, sexual asaulter, or gay(maybe even kills himself due to the lack of sexual knowledge he has gained).
HAHAH! Yep! As hilarious as that sounds, it's sad that it's true.

[bRyaN]

Seeing Janets tit was awesome...she was just one of those hot celebrities that i hoped would get naked for Playboy just cause shes famous...

you guys know what i mean...

[fixx]

Being a girl, and not having seen another girl's reply (i think...)
I'm just wondering what the deal is. I mean.. its a breast. Your
mothers have breasts. They are lunchbags for babies.
And being European: If I see one more American pop-start trying
to boost her record sales by putting herself on blatant display ill scream.
Those poor outraged mothers, poor MTV, poor Janet. I don't know wether to laugh or cry or sympathize really.
And Justin Timberlake? Can you get anymore geeky? No, scratch that.
Justin's not a geek. Geeks are cool. Justin's a dork.
:bash:

[bRyaN]

take it with a grain of salt...

it's really no big deal...hopefully the American Idol phase of our society will pass soon....

[mtw]

Originally posted by bRyaN
Seeing Janets tit was awesome...she was just one of those hot celebrities that i hoped would get naked for Playboy just cause shes famous...
She looks a bit too much like Michael for my tastes. I know Michael is the one who decided to look like her, but...

[DanSTC]

Originally posted by davi
DanSTC you talk alot.

Indeed. I've been on a binge of forum-posting lately, but I'm just now starting get wrapped up in my studies (both artistic and academic college stuff) so I won't be on as much. Mainly I wanted to post a bunch and get a general "feel" for the community, so I've gotten myself quite involved these past few weeks. Also, as soon as I can get my durn busted scanner working, or if I can convince someone to lend me his or her digital camera, I'll also start putting up some of my work in the sketches forum for critique.

Speak of the devil, I believe there's some oceanography homework I need to do at the moment...

[Skank]

Originally posted by Chris J. Anderson!
I'm not totally sure, but I think it was religion, Christianity to be more precise, that started the whole, "lets hide the human body" idea, from people. I remember when, after the Christians started to get bigger after Rome was finished, I remember learning in art history class that the Christians started to cover the Roman's statues genitals. And ofcourse with every new statue or painting done for Christian's, they covered those as well. Chrisitanity then being brought over to America in the beiginning of America's birth, melded into and caused what our society is today with the kinds of morals we have, like the so called "moral', of hiding the nude body.

injection wrote:

HAHAH! Yep! As hilarious as that sounds, it's sad that it's true.

ya, i think thats true for our culture, but in some countries, woman cant even show anything but their eyes, to do so is punishable by death in some cases....i think we got it easy over here, we take alot for granted. (thats a whole nother discussion in itself :D )

[Travis_Bourbeau]

nice nipple ring though eh !

[Kirt]

I like to know these moron's opinions on all the beer ads that were shown to their children. What a retarded bunch of stupid crap.

Gasp! A flopping boob in the halftime show of a sporting event sponsored by alcoholic beverages. Duh ... not exactly the Disney channel.

I find it humorous that the FBI are involved already. Very embarrassing to be an American when junk like this gets world-wide attention.

Hey, we're not all retarded ... just the media, popstars & people who give this crap more than 5 minutes of thier attention.

(I'm in under 3 minutes ... so I'm good) :D

[davi]

actually it's not a nipple ring... it's a barbell.

and what she was wearing is called a 'nipple sheild', which is placed around the nipple with the barbell out of the piercing, then one it's snug around the actual nipple the piecing is reinserted which kind of works like a lock....

[Fipse]

Somehow I knew that you would sooner or later clarify it, Davi ;).

And yes, the "case" and ruccus is amusing me - and I´m old-european :D

Fipse

[Travis_Bourbeau]

Nice nipple barbell and shield then ;)

[mtmckinley]

Originally posted by DanSTC


As someone else better than me put it; "[In American entertainment] Rambo slaughtering vietcong is good clean fun, but showing some people engaged in good sex is a scandal."

In order to see Rambo doing the slaughtering, though, you're [legally] supposed to be old enough to attend/see an R-rated film. The same rating that nudity becomes "available" in American films. Now, if mom and dad want to show their 8-year-old Rambo in the privacy of their home, more power to them. But, yeah, I can understand not wanting it on television during the early evening when the entire family is gathered around to watch.

[AnarchyAo2]

lol I think it was for the best. Most people at the superbowl are MEN. What man wouldn't enjoying seeing a pop icon's breast? Which brings me to my next idea. The 1/2 show shouldn't be pop stars jumping around singing. They should just have a bunch of strippers in the middle. THAT would pull in a crowd. Football, beer, and nekkid ladies. What more does a guy need out of entertainment?

[dfacto]

I have to admit that Anarchy's idea would make the half-time show much more appealing to me. As is, I never watch it and go channel surfing instead. Of course this year I didn't see it at all so whatever.

[Carnifex]

ok,i don't watch sports normally,but i'd watch the half-time pause if anarchy's idea was realized.

and if it was kylie minogue instead of janet jackson there(with other outfit),i think i'd need a tub under my mouth.:D

[Chris J. Anderson!]

Skank wrote:
ya, i think thats true for our culture, but in some countries, woman cant even show anything but their eyes, to do so is punishable by death in some cases....i think we got it easy over here, we take alot for granted. (thats a whole nother discussion in itself )

Yeah that is true that we have it much easier than some countries. In fact, and I hope I don't make anyone sick by showing this, but here's a picture of a woman who got her nose chopped off. The type under this picture basically said that, this woman is from Pakistan, her husband was jealous that she would cheat on him because of her beauty, so he cut off her nose. She spent the rest of her life confinded to their courtyard. Also, it was written that women get their skin burned, strangled, electricuted, beaten, raped, this is a partial list of the abuse particularly married women in Pakistan undergo. This happens because of "Pakistan's strongly patriarchal values come from its Muslim religion and deeply tribal sense of being, and this tribal ideology supercedes all legal provisions which protect women from physical and mental abuse."

http://www.chrisjanderson.com/Forumimages/ruined-female.jpg

[MGH]

I was going to be wity 'til I saw that. Some friggin' people take the cake.

[Skank]

Originally posted by Chris J. Anderson!
Skank wrote:


Yeah that is true that we have it much easier than some countries. In fact, and I hope I don't make anyone sick by showing this, but here's a picture of a woman who got her nose chopped off. The type under this picture basically said that, this woman is from Pakistan, her husband was jealous that she would cheat on him because of her beauty, so he cut off her nose. She spent the rest of her life confinded to their courtyard. Also, it was written that women get their skin burned, strangled, electricuted, beaten, raped, this is a partial list of the abuse particularly married women in Pakistan undergo. This happens because of "Pakistan's strongly patriarchal values come from its Muslim religion and deeply tribal sense of being, and this tribal ideology supercedes all legal provisions which protect women from physical and mental abuse."

werd chris, the people freakin out about a nipple need to stfu seeing shit like this kinda makes everything seem pretty silly huh? i mean honestly, it hardly showed more than when they have the cheerleaders bouncing in front of the camera.
my thoughts on pop stars and retarded publicity stunts aside:
move along,nothing to see here..

[Chris J. Anderson!]

Skank Wrote:
it hardly showed more than when they have the cheerleaders bouncing in front of the camera.
Heheh! SPeaking of that, go here.
http://www.wootanime.com/girls.html

[AnarchyAo2]

lol jesus christ...

[Skank]

lol
that was pretty damn funny

[DanSTC]

Originally posted by Chris J. Anderson!
Skank wrote:


Yeah that is true that we have it much easier than some countries. In fact, and I hope I don't make anyone sick by showing this, but here's a picture of a woman who got her nose chopped off. The type under this picture basically said that, this woman is from Pakistan, her husband was jealous that she would cheat on him because of her beauty, so he cut off her nose. She spent the rest of her life confinded to their courtyard. Also, it was written that women get their skin burned, strangled, electricuted, beaten, raped, this is a partial list of the abuse particularly married women in Pakistan undergo. This happens because of "Pakistan's strongly patriarchal values come from its Muslim religion and deeply tribal sense of being, and this tribal ideology supercedes all legal provisions which protect women from physical and mental abuse."

True. We have it much better off than several other countries, but boobies are a force of good, not evil. There is nothing evil about people seeing a pair of boobs, unless they're the withered pair from "Something about Mary."

[IMG-noseless-IMG]

Oh jeez, that poor kid's like as old as my friend's sister... :(

[Chris J. Anderson!]

DanSTC:
"but boobies are a force of good, not evil. "

Hahaaa! Yes! Agreed! America needs to stop hiding the boobies! Good healthy Boobies! No wrinkly veins or huge pancake nipples tho.
:D

[Redder]

You know the first figure drawing class you ever had in which the model posed nude and some guy in the back whispered something to the affect of "Awesome man!" well...
















...its like this thread.

[benzo]

Originally posted by mtmckinley

Now, if mom and dad want to show their 8-year-old Rambo in the privacy of their home, more power to them. But, yeah, I can understand not wanting it on television during the early evening when the entire family is gathered around to watch.

agreed. it shouldn't be up to MTV what your kids see; that should be the parents' responsibility, and they should know whats going to be shown.

no one ever blames the parents when their kids watch porn or R-rated movies though, they always blame the internet, the tv channel, or the government....

Another thing that went unnoticed in the show was Kid Rock's outfit- he was wearing an American flag, which is totally disrespectful, or used to be anyways. (remember when we were taught to not let it touch the ground) he was sweatin all over it and singing his name, and that's his image. It really pisses me off the images that all of these american pop stars portray. ultimately its degrading to our society.

My generation is full of spoiled abercrombie & fitch fuckups who have had everything handed to them. they breeze through country club colleges and still don't know how to work or think for themselves, and they exspect the same rich life style that they grew up with because now they have a degree.

but now there are just not enough new jobs and they're all livin at home at an increasingly large rate. a degree just ain't enough anymore. I don't even like to think about it.....or what it will be like in the future. Because our country does have it really good, and thats because we have worked hard, but how much better can it get? Eventually we'll just have to be content with what we have, but that may not be until after we have lost a lot.

[AnarchyAo2]

I think if we expose our youth to nudity then it wouldn't be such a big deal. I don't see whats so forbidden about it. Maybe I'm missing something but if we would expose nudity to the youth, then what bad would happen as a consequince?

[DanSTC]

Originally posted by Redder
You know the first figure drawing class you ever had in which the model posed nude and some guy in the back whispered something to the affect of "Awesome man!" well...


And you know what? That guy was right. Breasts ARE totally awesome.

[Redder]

Originally posted by DanSTC


And you know what? That guy was right. Breasts ARE totally awesome.

What about those sexy amish women who bare their ankles?

[dfacto]

I think if we expose our youth to nudity then it wouldn't be such a big deal. I don't see whats so forbidden about it. Maybe I'm missing something but if we would expose nudity to the youth, then what bad would happen as a consequince?

An excess of hairy palms?;)

[AnarchyAo2]

If I ever meet you, I'm not going to shake your hand.

[DanSTC]

Originally posted by Redder


What about those sexy amish women who bare their ankles?

Ankles are awesome too. Just not quite as totally awesome as breasts. Ankles don't jiggle or provide a source of nutrition for infants, unless if you powder and boil them.

[wassermelone]

I don't think anyone was saying awesome on my first time in a figure class.

He was 80 or something...

-toasty =)

[AnarchyAo2]

They should have a VIP figure drawing class, where you draw only HOT models.

[DanSTC]

We get women models who are hotties at Watts atelier...the instructors have excellent taste, I must say. Of course, we also get women (and men) who are not "hot" but have bodies that are amazing for others reasons, be it volume, musculature, etc. Really great selection of body types and shapes and masses to practice from. :)