DSG 338: Weapon: Rifle that harnesses light energy

[dsg bot]

Today's topic is: Weapon: Rifle that harnesses light energy

[mjw4745276]

An idea and suggestion:
I think it would be a good idea to occassionally have "Exercise" as the DSG subject i.e along with weapon;object;environment etc.

and no I don't mean drawing someone pumping iron :p

I mean like the following;
Draw a vase of flowers with your offhand (not your right hand if you are right handed).
Draw a human face but draw upside-down.
Draw with one eye covered.
etc.
These "Exercises" are great for fun and force you use the creative right hemisphere of your brain.
DSG shouldn't be a competition, it should be a learning process. :chug:
What do you think??

[Commander Obvious]

Just given how much (or rather how little) I can actually spend on sketching for this activity, just *doing* the subject at all is an exercise. So while taking compositional suggestions is cool and all, I'm actually happy with how it goes already. Of course, I may not be the most proliffic in my posting here so I suppose the luxury of choosing which one I want to do instead of committing to doing it every day affords me the chance to wait until I have a good idea.

Okay, enough typing, more art. Be right back... ;)

[Commander Obvious]

...and because I'm not a normal person, I don't think normal thoughts about these sorts of topics. My first drawing seemed WAY too trite (frickin' laser beam) so I tried to get as wacky as possible with this one...

http://www.wsu.edu/~russell_/DailySketchGroupConceptArt/DSG338_Light_Rifle.JPG

[Form]

thats a daaaamn small manifying glass, or a damn big ant...

[OLSEN]

@mjv4745276: i have nothing against doing exercises, but not in DSG. DSG is a good place for learning, but it´s also supposed to be fun, drawing a face upside down is no fun, and even more boring would be to look at 40 peoples faces drawn upside down. Or vases. In my humble opinion, it´s up to each one of us to motivate ourself to do such exercises on our own and spare the world the boredom of it (or post it at the appropriate forum.)

[mjw4745276]

Point taken. maybe a separate forum for learning techniques and exercises would be a good idea.
:D

[OLSEN]

Try the middle class, it´s a group of artists at this forum that do the kind of stuff i think you are looking for. You can find them here:

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=38

[Form]

hey mjw im the moderator for the middle class, PM me if you want to find out what its all about. I managed to marker an idea i had tonight...didnt spend too much time on it, just enough time to throw out the concept. I still hate doing proper anatomy in sketches ...so i cheated bwahahah.


The people of Tanash loathed the two moons - for they were the last source of their power, and irrevocably, the source of their demise...

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v47/formsketch/Moonrifles.jpg

[Iotrez]

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/simon.davies/LightGun.jpg

[Cybot Floor]

*gg* Iotrez: what does that thing shoot? Body liquids...?

Commander Obvious: Great idea! I`ll think twice before nearing the next ant-hill ^^

http://www.arcor.de/palb/alben/44/555744/800_3437393334613466.jpg

http://www.arcor.de/palb/alben/44/555744/640_3034303733336262.jpg

[Form]

lol nice idea Cybot, love the twist! your shading could do with a bit more thought - shading with the direction of the form.


once again, im the odd one out when it comes to comments.

Is my work crap?? or is it just uncommentable??

[Cybot Floor]

thanks and sorry, form_n_focus,

no not crap. The quality is fine - I just didn`t understand it completly...

[Form]

sorry lol i was sposed to explain but forgot.

ok explanation of my piece:

basically the planet has stopped rotating (unrealistic, i know, but just go with it) and the moon is now the only source of energy for the peoples of Tanash, who live on the moonside because the other side eventually burned due to its constant exposure to the sun. However, the moons are still orbiting, and will eventually be thrown out of orbit and the Tanashi will be plunged into an apocalyptic darkness.

Thus they both love and hate the two moons.

What you see in the picture are sentry posts - guard towers if you will, against the solicks (sunsiders) who seek to capture the moonside before the apocalypse.

The moon charges the turrets where the energy is stored and pumped to the rifles that the sentries hold. the tanashi land has no raw materials suitable for manufacturing conventional munitions, so this is the last defense they have. That explain it a bit?

[Cybot Floor]

a bit ;)

ok, now it makes sense.
But what do they guard there? The whole planetside? Some village in the background would be nice...

[Form]

was gonna do something, but

a) too lazy

b) liked the sorta barren feel.

i dunno, might give it a try later. the more i go over it the more i feel it was contrived and rushed, so i may not do any more work on it after all. Thanks for the ideas tho!

[kaptah]

Nice forum, just found it.
I never can decide what I should draw, while learning the Painter. Now I know, at least one topic for a day..

http://www.sannahellstrom.com/cg/riffle.jpg

this image take "too long" about 3 hours, i think sketchs should be litle faster.

[farmer]

first marker sketched..
afterwards in photoshop coloren..

took 2 hourshttp://www.d3-genetic.de/ftp/farmer/lightning-gun.jpg

[JaCkinbOx]

I want a flashlight like that.

I'll try to get a submission in, today. Pressed for time, right now.

Great work, fellas.

[GirafeEnFeu]

http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v31/GirafeEnFeu/dsg_002.jpg

Well, it's a light gun. Shoots like a lazer with the comfort of a rifle. enjoy! :)

[Commander Obvious]

Originally posted by form_n_focus
sorry lol i was sposed to explain but forgot.

ok explanation of my piece:

basically the planet has stopped rotating (unrealistic, i know, but just go with it) and the moon is now the only source of energy for the peoples of Tanash, who live on the moonside because the other side eventually burned due to its constant exposure to the sun. However, the moons are still orbiting, and will eventually be thrown out of orbit and the Tanashi will be plunged into an apocalyptic darkness.

Thus they both love and hate the two moons.

What you see in the picture are sentry posts - guard towers if you will, against the solicks (sunsiders) who seek to capture the moonside before the apocalypse.

The moon charges the turrets where the energy is stored and pumped to the rifles that the sentries hold. the tanashi land has no raw materials suitable for manufacturing conventional munitions, so this is the last defense they have. That explain it a bit?

Actually, just a note about astronomy that might seem pedantic of me to point out...

For a planet still in orbit around a sun (a presumption on my behalf), it would have to continue rotating for only one side to see the sun. The reason why is obvious if you try to do this yourself with two objects. Pretend one is the sun and move your "planet" around it while keeping only one side facing the sun at all times. You'll find yourself rotating the planet, albeit very slowly (depending on the radius of the orbit). I'm pretty sure this is the way our own moon orbits us here on Earth (hence the term "dark side of the moon" referring to the side of the moon we never see because of that).

As for the moons almost staying in orbit around a slowly rotating planet, I think it is possible if the planet is massive enough and by the same token as the previous explanation, you see that the moons are also orbiting the planet at the same rate of the planet's rotation. This gives the appearance to observers on the planet's surface of zero motion, but it is really just a relative term now. This is a type of orbit we put many satellites in called "geosynchronous" meaning synchronized to the planet's rotation. It is usually a much MUCH higher orbit altitude than the satellites you see moving across the sky.

Additionally, if you're really picky, you could point out that even a geosynchronous orbit is rarely motionless but often the satellite traces out a stretched figure-eight pattern with the intersection of the looping orbit paths centered over the earth's equator.

However, for moons to leave orbit but hang around long enough and close enough for the people of the planet to develop light technology, one could presume that their orbits are decaying slowly (which is true of every orbit because of entropy). It requires a considerable amount of energy to propel an object out of orbit rapidly (slingshot effect we've used many times with our own satellites, especially the deep space ones we want to speed WAY up). It is conceivable to fling a moon out of it's nearly geosynchronous orbit but that would require something massive knocking it into a lower orbit and that would cause the moon to be flung out of orbit as it accellerated toward the planet. The tidal forces of TWO moons, each large enough to reflect light on the scale for those weapons, would be tremendous, possibly causing such a slowly rotating planet to speed up its rotation.

This has been a completely off-topic post for this forum, I know, and I'm sorry for that. But I figured you might be interested because you used some actually feasible concepts and I just wanted to point them out. I'm a huge nerd and stuff like this sets me off like bacon does to a dog.

[Jane Radstrom]

That's actually really interesting Commander Obvious! The cool thing about concept art is that there is almost no useless data. All principles of science, biology, math, technology, culture, ect can be used as a jumping off point for ideas. :) :D

Interestingly, I was just talking to someone about this and apparently Mercury rotates slowly like Commander Obvious described; it has a hot side facing the sun and a dark side. Apparently on the hot side it's far to hot for human habitation while on the dark side it's much much colder than any temperatures on earth, too cold for human habitation. So actually the only area humans could habitate is the "twilight zone" between the hot and cool sides. This is third or fourth-hand data so... CO can let me know if I'm way off-base. ;)

[wassermelone]

My physics teacher and I had basically that same conversation last year Commander Obvious.

basically the planet has stopped rotating (unrealistic, i know, but just go with it)
Well, seemingly its more realistic than you might think. The Earth's rotation is actually slowing down (minutely of course).

-toasty =)

[BartMax]

Hi! It's only my third post here. Here's the drawing I made in about 2 hours... I know I'm still not too fast, but furious because I'm not fast :p

http://members.fortunecity.com/bartmax/DSG_338-Light_energized_Rifle.jpg

[Hunger_Artist]

http://members.tripod.com/carlbeu/753c3580.jpg

[Railboy]

http://www.atomicagedog.com/art/dailysketch/lightgun.jpg

I used a reference photo of some guy holding a rifle. I realize that he can't use the sight with a lightbulb sitting in front of it, but other than that I'm happy with it. :)

Guidance - if you could change ONE thing...?

[RETEP]

heres my rifle.
it absorbs the light in from around it, hence camoflaging the person holding the rifle. the kick stand looking thing in the front is actually a magnet that corresponds with one below on the ground, allowing the rifle to be balanced and easily held for long periods of time. the scope uses sound because the lack of light, its not as clear but will suffice. the tubes near the bottom harness excess light. :D http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/dingoegret/harnesslightrifle.jpg

[young paddy1]

It ain't a lot but it's what I got


http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v19/youngpaddy1/dsg/light_guns.jpg

[Gumdrop]

Iotrez - Nice design and style. Looks great as a Playstation game character for some pre-teen shoot 'em up.

GirafeEnFeu - Fun idea. I like oldschool fire arms.

Hunger_Artist - I really like the colours and the fact the head is out of shot. The light particles are a nice touch too.

[Crave My Nightmares]

http://redmarionette.com/LightHarnessingGunDSG.jpg

Foo-Foo Ray - I didnt spend too much time on it ( As much as I could. I still wanted to participate even though I didnt spend an hour) but I think I got my idea across. :) I obviously need to use reference on the gun next time.

Used against the Evil-ish-ness of the world. MUAHHAHAHHAHA! :D

[inkwerkz]

I thought about something to hunt vampires, where the bullets are tipped w/ lighted crystals. Saw Underworld a few weeks back and was inspired partly by that.
Ideations on guns:
http://www.inkwerkz.com/images/artwork/01.30.04_DSG%20Scan-s.jpg

Bullets:
http://www.inkwerkz.com/images/artwork/01.30.04_DSG%20Scan%20001-s.jpg

.......and some practice drawing guns before I began:
http://www.inkwerkz.com/images/artwork/01.30.04_DSG%20Scan%20002-s.jpg

[OLSEN]

I spent a little more time on tonights DSG then i usually do.

"Early on in the campaign the grenadiers found that the only way to take down the xenomorph heavy infantry was to disturp their shields with intense light, such as from a flashbang grenade, and then hit them with as much firepower as possible.

However, the short range of a flashbang grenade often meant that the grenadiers was left without means to battle the xenomorphs effectivly.

This fireteam is using the "LUX", an experimental weapon ideal to take down xenomorph shields at ranges up to 1000 meters, although bad weather shortens the range. When the shields are down the sniper part of the fireteam would use his gauss rifle to make the actual kill."

http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v31/ksm_olsen/LUXfireteam2.jpg

closeup:
http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v31/ksm_olsen/LUXclose.jpg

[Jianna]

she comes as a complete package. Guarunteed to destroy using only the power of the sun or your money back.


http://img17.photobucket.com/albums/v51/jianna/ultraviolet.jpg


she only has one wing though. we still need to work that bug out i guess.

[terp]

you've got to be able to reload a rifle like that with light clips, don't you? ;-)

http://www.miketerpstra.com/dsg/dsg_light_rifle.gif
(all attempts to paint this all-moody-like failed miserably. maybe later.)

Olsen - damn...got some time? heh.
Hunger Artist - thank you for posting as often as you do. love your flavor.

i love the is humor on these boards...keeps it fresh!

m

[Form]

olsen, thats freakin great man! i especially love your choice of a red base colour, it really exemplifies the feeling of war.

[lance]

well its a quickie
about an hour
photoshopped
numerous refs
http://home.jam.rr.com/artoflance/light%20gun%20copy.jpg

[S.C. Watson]

Intentionally spent less than an hour on this one. The original pencil sketch took less than 15 minutes.

Those are supposed to be a solar panel on the top of the pack.

http://img9.photobucket.com/albums/v25/Oregano/Concept1/338-lightrifle.gif

[SABRE]

HI...ITS A LITTLE BIG FOR A RIFLE...OR NOT?? :evilbat:


http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v19/SABRE/LIGHT_ENERGY_W.jpg



BYEE.................................

[dagreengo]

this is what i came up with ... a solar artillery piece. im pretty sure that a rifle can be an artillery piece too, besides a shoulder fired such and such... anyways ... its supposed to be solar panels on top powering the gun which serves as some sort of coastal defence. i really dont like how it turned out ... plus its such a blatant ripoff of something from final fantasy 7, that i almost don't want to post it, but i dont want to miss out on the dsg fun.

http://mark.boulware.com/solarcannon.jpg

great stuff everybody else!

[Form]

have you used some sort of EMERALD in your WEAPON? *cough cough*. are there any MAKO sharks in that water *cough cough*. Maybe you should add some more CLOUD to the sky *cough cough*.

Nice idea btw ;)

[dagreengo]

Lol ... you got me. no EMERALD, but a little RUBY for the bottom, if you want to reproduce it, the exact color is RED XIII, i believe

[Form]

:rolleyes: we're really sad you know...

:D haha good stuff, but i think if youve used any filters theyd be
SAFER-OFF!

ok that was a big stretch......

*waits for DSG 339...*

[dagreengo]

oooh, depending on how you pronounce 'SAFER off' ... that could be two semi-obscure references to Final Fantasy ... sepiroth and Seifer ... SEIFER off.

and i win.

when does the new dsg come in? 6?

[Form]

yeh, sephiroth (coolest char ever).

8pm my time so about 3 hrs and 8 minits ;D

[OLSEN]

Is an 8 hour DSG cheating? I guess i got a bit carried away...

anyhow, i think it´s finished now. Atleast i am, it´s 06:54 in the morning here and im spent. Obviously i missed the "rifle" part of the topic...
http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v31/ksm_olsen/LUXfinishedfinallyforreal.jpg

Thanks for commenting on the previous pic @terp and form_n_focus, although i didn´t quite understand terps comment if i got time..

Great work all. :)

[dagreengo]

3 hours!? whoa ... its already 4am here ... i dont think i'll be able to make it ... plus this program just started on tv about bears mauling people -- so i'll probalby be watching that for a while (why are bear attacks so damned interesting?)

and sepiroth -- without his sword hes just a guy who wears fruity clothes. but his sword is pretty awesome and makes up for it .... BUT IF HE DIDNT HAVE THAT SWORD...

HOLY CRAP OLSEN! Thats awesome, i thought the 'sketch' was pretty good, but thats too cool! reminds me of the 'prism tank' from red alert2

[Form]

no, sephiroth is teh 1337est villain in teh ever...so mysterious, and he killed that whiny lil bitch aeris, too. WERD UP SEPHIROTH!

[riq]

a little behind, but I started this one before 12.

I like the sketch a little more than the painting.. oh well.

http://www.creativeion.com/riq/works/lightgunnerlineart.jpg

http://www.creativeion.com/riq/works/lightgunner.jpg

[terp]

Olsen, you just keep rollin...wish i had some more time to put in(!). like the texture on the gun burst....

riq, i agree...the sketch is very dynamic.

[Thrash]

http://www.chaingunstudios.com/ArtGallery/dsg/DSG338ThrashLightGunWeb.jpg