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gaboartpage
November 11th, 2002, 06:48 PM
Hello! everyone, I just found this forum via studio222 and jessica Lo links, and i would like to ask a few questions:

1)I would like to study a Bachelors degree in Illustration and first i am worried about the resources and teachers that can teach me the following things:

I know that painting and crafts can be obtained in any school but what i really want is to know where can i practice and investigate to rotate things and move things without lossing the character or machine characteristics VOLUME !!

here are examples of my goal in life... drawings for Satoshi's Kon new project:

http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~xw7s-kn/chara03.html
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~xw7s-kn/chara02.html
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~xw7s-kn/chara06.html
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~xw7s-kn/chara12.html

http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~xw7s-kn/pictures.html

I know that with practice and work is how you obtain this but every teacher or friend that i ask how can i do this they tell me that this artist went to a special school --DUH!-- obviously an Art School but in Arts, Industrial Design or illustration??

the second question(i'm boring you) ---Academy of Art College- California College of Arts-Art Center college of design- London institute Camberwell college of arts --College for Creative studies??????? do you know more in the world ....please answer i would appreciate.

I just want to learn to control the characters that i make and to put them in enviorements

Thanks for reading :-)
Gabriel (visit my page)

Avetice
November 12th, 2002, 03:25 AM
im not completely certain on this but any animation department should have to teach you how to do things like that. They probably start you with simple objects as faces like just a slightly modified circle or box with eyes and a mouth. Anyway let me just say one thing though at CCS in the ID major you wouldn't have any courses dealing with anything like this related to the human body. They would definately teach you perspective. The same with art center, although they do specialize in entertainment design and they teach you character concepting. You should pm kchen about art center and what you want to learn and what art center can offer. You would learn that more through illustration than in industrial design because you would do quite a bit of life drawing and just from doing that constantly you will get better at being able to stay consistent with the characteristics you made for certain characters.
short answer illustration or animation not industrial design

Jason Manley
November 12th, 2002, 03:40 AM
go to a school that has LOTS of figure classes through the entire program.

you first must learn to work from the figure from life...take as many semesters as you can. I can draw a head from any angle now that I have had so much life drawing.

android can draw heads from every angle because he draws more heads than anyone Ive ever known...same goes for puddnhead.

both those guys religiously draw from life...every single day...tis the only way.

you must draw draw draw.

burne hogarth has a nice head book that goes over what you are wanting to learn...you dont have to draw super heros like him but you can use all the same principles...pretty much everything you need to know about constructing heads is in that book...the rest is found in anatomy books like the peck book and the goldstein anatomy book.

but first and foremost you must draw from life...and NOT JUST GESTURE DRAWINGS...long term head studies...draw sketches of all your friends....

we used to sit at the cafes and draw everyone there who looked interesting...coro still does that like a fiend. check his sketchbook section and see his train sketching pages.


art center
ringling
sva
academy of art SF

those are some of the schools that will let you study from life...there are others though...my best figure teacher was at a community college.

do not just draw anime...ask joshuathejames about that...right josh ;) he has his style down and now must push past that...anime and stylized imagination drawing will only get you so far...you must take what you need from life..and you must spend as many years possible doing so...it is a life long pursuit.


j

gaboartpage
November 12th, 2002, 06:36 PM
OH ! thanks for answering i already wrote the name of the books posted here, it's just that when the head starts to turn i have problems knowing when the lines start to tend to curve or when a feature starts to dissapear etc........

In this book of Burne Hogarth do they talk about PLANES IN THE HEAD??? something like geometric aproach, it is easy for me like that.

I also think that a bird view(top) of the head really helps when projecting rotation in front view....

About what Jason posted (really excelent work Jason) i didn't understand the GESTURE thing???????

"""JASON: but first and foremost you must draw from life...and NOT JUST GESTURE DRAWINGS...long term head studies...draw sketches of all your friends.... """

I make a lot of drawings from magazzines does this help or i need to have a living person in front of me?????

Thanks to everyone !!!!
:D