View Full Version : Adobe CS5 and its COlor mixing/brush feature!
rossipoo
November 7th, 2009, 02:07 AM
Sorry if you've already heard of this or seen it, i thought i would share it to the people that haven't seen it.
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ArtZealot
November 7th, 2009, 03:03 AM
You mean to tell me photoshop is actually adding something useful for the people that use it as a paint program!? i don't believe it.
paberu
November 7th, 2009, 05:09 AM
That new brush tech looks quite interesting, though I wonder how it will perform - hope it won't be laggy as hell.
Slash
November 7th, 2009, 06:24 AM
It looked laggy in the preview, hopefully that won't be the case when it ships.
And what the hell, whats with the stupid american football presentation? The dumb presentation almost took away from the coolness of the new tech :(
Aly Fell
November 7th, 2009, 07:06 AM
Interesting. I like the idea of brushes finally mimicking the behaviour of traditional media in Photoshop, but there is a bit of a Luddite in me that still thinks if you want the look of traditional media then learn to use it rather than emulate it. But regardless, I love Photoshop anyway...
Fascinating how the examples they use to present the new painting features are manipulated photographs rather than from-scratch images.
Thanks for posting.
Iridyse
November 7th, 2009, 07:56 AM
I agree, the football bits were so lame. The paint mixing still feels like the regular smudge to me. I'm more excited about the warping though, although the fixed control vertices and the movable ones looked the same so that part didn't make sense
It was a pretty strange presentation and it feels more like a spoof.
Raoul Duke
November 7th, 2009, 11:24 AM
That was a shitty presentation of a great feature or two.
I wish they had an artist demo it, instead of a kindergarten teacher
KarylGilbertson
November 7th, 2009, 11:56 AM
I will agree that the presentation was... weird.
I do like the new features though... the blending looks like they are just catching up with Painter, but the actual "brushstrokes" look very interesting...
carlosranna
November 7th, 2009, 01:35 PM
Yep. Adobe is finally looking at us. Corel has got to pay more attention now...
The feature was so laggy in the fella´s computer, that i´m sure i will need a completely new setup to be able to use it here....
nauvice
November 7th, 2009, 04:10 PM
who knew the average photoshop junkie were such big football fans
kikindaface
November 7th, 2009, 04:55 PM
I totally agree with Poshspice, if you wanna mix painting, why don't do it with real painting and real brushes ? I think it can be cool for learning some color theories and how to mix colors, and maybe some digital artists would be tempted to try traditionnal painting thanks to this tool !
Farvus
November 7th, 2009, 04:58 PM
Looks promising but that why does he talk like in some TV show for kids?
HunterKiller_
November 7th, 2009, 05:43 PM
*yawn*
Photoshop CS5, meet Corel Painter 8.
DeadlyFreeze
November 7th, 2009, 06:02 PM
*yawn*
Photoshop CS5, meet Corel Painter 8.
Agreed...
Do what your good at stop trying to be the end all app.
CruShTinbOX
November 7th, 2009, 06:12 PM
I totally agree with Poshspice, if you wanna mix painting, why don't do it with real painting and real brushes ? I think it can be cool for learning some color theories and how to mix colors, and maybe some digital artists would be tempted to try traditionnal painting thanks to this tool !
But couldn't you just say that about digital painting all together? Why paint on a computer at all when you can just do it with real paint and brushes? It obviously has it's uses and I, for one, welcome the feature. But I does look laggy as hell in that video.
MatejaPetkovic
November 7th, 2009, 06:39 PM
I have paint traditionaly for many years, and now i am doing it digitaly, and i love it. This looks interesting, but to laggy and, like most of you noticed, looks like regular smudge/
But i supposed this is just beginning of some new thing(does any one use or even remember that stretch thing that was introduced in pscs4?? :) ), and who actually use canvas rotation, bullshit.
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jrr
November 7th, 2009, 07:06 PM
who knew the average photoshop junkie were such big football fans
well.... there are a few of us.
Idiot Apathy
November 7th, 2009, 07:51 PM
New paint engine looks bland and still digital.
New warp tools could be useful.
But goddamnit I want a color picker that stays open !
Sekino
November 7th, 2009, 07:57 PM
I hate to be a cynic, but I admit I'm suspicious that the only examples they could come up with were paintovers from "injured football players with nothing better to do"... Strong selling point right there.
KarylGilbertson
November 7th, 2009, 09:36 PM
Agreed...
Do what your good at stop trying to be the end all app.
Though I do think these new features are interesting, DeadlyFreeze you raise a good point... We probably wouldn't need 4GB of RAM these days if programs did fewer things better, and had less bloat... PS is one program that has a LOT of bloat... does it really need more?
nauvice
November 7th, 2009, 10:18 PM
Though I do think these new features are interesting, DeadlyFreeze you raise a good point... We probably wouldn't need 4GB of RAM these days if programs did fewer things better, and had less bloat... PS is one program that has a LOT of bloat... does it really need more?
yes it does, so I dont have to buy other programs which I usually end up going back and forth from photoshop with anyway, which would take up a lot more ram.
polydrawer
November 8th, 2009, 01:36 PM
cool and nice to see they brought the puppettool into ps , but they should just show their features without any speech and add a catchy song to the background like pixologic does because now i tought it was some kind of youtube kid trying to hoax people
Slash
November 8th, 2009, 01:44 PM
and who actually use canvas rotation, bullshit.
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Seriously? I've been waiting for that thing for years ever since i first tried painter! With an intuos 4 its so quick and intuitive, why would anyone NOT use it?
Chison
November 8th, 2009, 01:49 PM
new 3D paintbrush is a good add ^^
paberu
November 8th, 2009, 03:32 PM
Seriously? I've been waiting for that thing for years ever since i first tried painter! With an intuos 4 its so quick and intuitive, why would anyone NOT use it?
Agreed, I use canvas rotate all the time, one of the best feature that was WAAAAY overdue.
Jason Snair
November 8th, 2009, 04:54 PM
This seems pretty cool. I'd be interested to see where it leads.
Annnnd. It sounds like Zack Braff is narrating this.
bumskee
November 8th, 2009, 06:00 PM
But goddamnit I want a color picker that stays open !
yeah god damn it.. or at least a shortkey to open the friggin thing..
Hideyoshi
November 8th, 2009, 07:43 PM
yeah god damn it.. or at least a shortkey to open the friggin thing..
Check this :)
http://www.peousware.com/open-photoshop-color-picker-with-a-keyboard-shortcut/
but only for CS3 so far I think...
Krato
November 8th, 2009, 08:21 PM
thats pretty cool
Dizon
November 9th, 2009, 12:19 AM
I think I'll just stick to my trusty hard round brush for now.
♦♦Jackdaw♦♦
November 11th, 2009, 08:21 PM
Guys, Relax. It's the latest version so obviously it will be great.
I mean, consider the performance of CS4 in comparison to the original CS... Personally, It seems like my artistic prowess increases with each new release. I'm guessing that has something to do with how fast all the new OpenGL features make my computer perform.
Wait...
Jason Rainville
November 11th, 2009, 09:52 PM
"Realistic" brush properties without the actual physical feedback just seems like it would be frustrating and feel random...
Peter Coene
November 12th, 2009, 11:39 AM
*yawn*
Photoshop CS5, meet Corel Painter 8.
Agreed...
Do what your good at stop trying to be the end all app.
Whoa, ease up. Not all of us want to have to go out and buy two aps just so that we can get certain benefits of both. If I could get painter style brushwork out of Photoshop I'd be psyched!
MatejaPetkovic
November 12th, 2009, 12:26 PM
yeah god damn it.. or at least a shortkey to open the friggin thing..
I have one for CS3 if you wanna
edit: Hideyoshi posted good link
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GhostValkyrie
November 13th, 2009, 09:00 AM
Nice, an excuse to upgrade my computer again. The presentation did look a bit slow, but I'm confident it won't be that way in the final release. I love painter; however, it gives me more problems than ps in terms of speed.
The more ps caters to artist, the more corel will feel compelled to compete. This is going to be interesting. :)
Pencilcandy
November 13th, 2009, 10:05 AM
/Facepalm, incoming useless Photoshop feature number 10.000. The examples scream ugly, stop trying to be something you're not Adobe, you're an image editor with brushes, not a Swiss army knife. PS is going places where it shouldn't be.
Soon to be PS's UI:
http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/photos/a380/images/18705/500x375/a380-cockpit.jpg
feral714
December 11th, 2009, 09:41 PM
Jezus that guy is annoying. While I'd hate for PS to get bogged down like Painter with tons of useless crap, I like the direction this is going in. Since Painter is a buggy frustrating piece of crap-I mean "wonderfully chaotic program" that does 10% of it's functions well- I would love for Adobe to offer more features for artists. I wish they would come out with a stand alone "Artshop" program that crushes Painter. I was hoping that someone like Autodesk would buy Painter and rewrite the thing. Sketchbook pro has promise but it's way too limited for me--love the ruler and ellipse tool though. I posted on the Painterfactory boards and elsewhere a couple years ago asking for a ruler/perspective tool and an ellipse tool but got absolutely no response, I even made a mockup image. I've heard that Corel isn't too concerned with Painter and the last version seems to prove that. I heard they are focusing on Corel Draw which competes with Illustrator--stupid.
Tircassia
December 14th, 2009, 10:36 AM
I think they took the dorkiest guy in their "lab" to do this presentation. Talking about football, I think he was trying to gain some win points but failed.
Seriously, the new additions look like nothing but added bloat and system resource usage. The warping looks interesting, in the right circumstances. I can see it more for design than art. But the brushes and the brush feedback doesn't look good at all, imo. Hopefully its just because this is a quick preview and they're still working on it.
Until Adobe decides to support little tablets again, as I cannot afford a Wacom and CS4 only supports Wacom now, I won't be getting this - no matter how good it looks on release. CS3 shall stay on my system for some time :)
Baron Impossible
December 14th, 2009, 11:19 AM
I wish they would come out with a stand alone "Artshop" program that crushes Painter.
They won't. Nobody's going to go for painting package that would, at best, be Art Rage 3's equal and would inevitably cost 5X the price.
jakobweiq
December 15th, 2009, 08:40 PM
i wouldn't say its laggy, due to most of the time screen-captured demos r recorded in lower frame rates (say 15 fps), so when playbacked it looked laggy
now the demo version looks as if it combine ArtRage and Zbrush together...
Freddy Scribbles
December 15th, 2009, 10:03 PM
Is there any news on a release date? I've heard rumors of first quarter 2010 because that seems to go with Adobe's usual pattern.
Have to switch over to Mac software and I'd just as soon not pay loads for CS4 if CS5 is just around the corner as I had that problem with CS2/CS3
Nevermind...seems like they're shooting for June 2010.
This article deals a lot with figures and finances, but it also has mentions of CS5
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aaeathHlgO8g&pos=7
"Investors are now looking for a boost from version 5 of the software, which they expect Adobe to release before June, said Patrick Walravens, an analyst with JMP Securities LLC in San Francisco.
“They are seeing a little better selling environment for the creative suite before CS5,” said Walravens, who has an “outperform” rating on Adobe’s shares. “That’s likely to make people even more optimistic on CS5.” "
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