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RyanSC
November 4th, 2009, 02:30 AM
Some of you guys have probably seen this, the pencilbrush (http://pencilbrush.com/). All it is, is a mechanical lead holder that holds the leads in a row kinda like a flat brush. I thought it was an interesting idea, but it is pricey. Have any of you guys ever used one before? and if so how do you like it?

PieterV
November 4th, 2009, 04:56 AM
If anyone get this please share your experiences. Looking at the videos now, and it's quite amazing, kind of like charcoal but with finer texture and more brush like handling.

Farvus
November 4th, 2009, 07:04 AM
I wasn't convinced until I saw tutorial videos. Works pretty well.

carlosranna
November 4th, 2009, 09:07 AM
Cool! But yeah, expensive...

dbclemons
November 4th, 2009, 09:23 AM
Flat pencil leads are not anything new. Look up carpenter's pencils. Most are encased in wood like standard pencils, but there are some that have replaceable leads in a plastic handle like a box-cutter knife. General makes sketching pencils that are slightly wider. Graphite is also available in flat woodless sticks.

This design of holding several leads together into one wide lead is a curious one. A possible advantage is that this could come in a range of lead hardness, whereas carpenter's pencils are all soft. I'd be interested to see how you sharpen them.

KarylGilbertson
November 4th, 2009, 10:49 AM
I was kinda skeptical, but the sketches they have on the website there show an interesting rake like quality that I really like.... hmmm

Slash
November 4th, 2009, 10:58 AM
I wasn't convinced until i saw you can draw giant vaginas with it. NOW I WANT ONE! Its like an analog rake brush, could come in quite handy.

paberu
November 4th, 2009, 03:43 PM
That actually looks quite good, though I wonder how it feeds the leads through without them falling out.... Who's going to be a team player and get one to test it out? :D?

OmenSpirits
November 4th, 2009, 07:06 PM
Did a search on this guy, Alexander Tarusha, illustrator on said site, couldn't find Jack!

hmm....anyone else know of this guy?

Penumbra
November 4th, 2009, 10:19 PM
I just ordered one because I'm a lead freak. I'll let you know how it turns out.
I'm also on a quest for a perfect pencil sharpener. So far an xacto and a smooth whetstone are in the lead(lol). Kum longpoint a close second and a re-tooled Dahle is in third. I said freak...
I need some one to build me either a laser lathe or a plasma cutter. I want a lead sharp enough to slip into another dimension.

Ivory_Oasis
November 5th, 2009, 12:08 AM
The owner of that site really needs to run a spellcheck and re-read things... o.O hehe

But, it looks pretty neat! Would make me hate working with pencils less.

GriNGo
November 5th, 2009, 01:59 AM
Woah, this is looking great! I'll have to try it sometime..

Sarc
November 5th, 2009, 11:35 AM
The videos made me want one :lifedrawing:

J Wilson
November 5th, 2009, 12:08 PM
Reminds me of a carpenter pencil. Is the advantage that you can load it with other leads types?

BRINKMAN!
November 5th, 2009, 02:07 PM
In addition to being able to swap out the hardness of the lead, you don't have to worry about sharpening or shaping the angle of the lead... you could just open it up, set it on the surface and keep going.

Seems cool... but $35 is pretty steep!

Cthogua
November 5th, 2009, 03:46 PM
You can also "paint" with graphite powder. In addtion you can use a brush loaded with alcohol to dissolve the binder in the graphite and make a grey "paint" you can push around.

Portus
November 5th, 2009, 04:00 PM
The design of that thing is really unappealing, looks like something from 1910 that some farmer made in his free time. Good idea none the less.

Dusty
November 5th, 2009, 04:40 PM
How do you change the lead? I would assume that you either have to buy special tips (that also cost too much) or individually fill the slots with lead...both of which sound unappealing to me.

Still, results look nice...definitely curious to hear what people think.

OmenSpirits
November 5th, 2009, 05:14 PM
I just ordered one because I'm a lead freak. I'll let you know how it turns out.
I'm also on a quest for a perfect pencil sharpener. So far an xacto and a smooth whetstone are in the lead(lol). Kum longpoint a close second and a re-tooled Dahle is in third. I said freak...
I need some one to build me either a laser lathe or a plasma cutter. I want a lead sharp enough to slip into another dimension.
what kind of payment did they take?

for something like this, I'd prefer a guarantee of protection. like paypal.

Portus
November 5th, 2009, 05:31 PM
How do you change the lead? I would assume that you either have to buy special tips (that also cost too much) or individually fill the slots with lead...both of which sound unappealing to me.

Still, results look nice...definitely curious to hear what people think.

I think it uses the whole 0.9mm lead container, breaking a lead to fill the whole slot wouldn't last long imo.

Raoul Duke
November 5th, 2009, 05:32 PM
I'd only pay 20 bucks if I could test it first, but it does look like fun.

RyanSC
November 5th, 2009, 06:36 PM
for you guys wondering how to load it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSvJnU9InVI&feature=player_embedded

Dusty
November 5th, 2009, 06:39 PM
for you guys wondering how to load it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSvJnU9InVI&feature=player_embedded

Ah, well that is actually a lot less annoying that I thought it would be.

Penumbra
November 5th, 2009, 09:19 PM
I paid with paypal so there's that. If it doesn't show up or turns out to be made out of balsa I can do a chargeback I guess.

what kind of payment did they take?

for something like this, I'd prefer a guarantee of protection. like paypal.

nauvice
November 5th, 2009, 10:57 PM
I dont think its that expensive, $35 sounds about right considering that's how much it costs or more to get a quality brush

nauvice
November 5th, 2009, 11:02 PM
...but I still dont think its worth it though, whatever happened to just tilting the pencil to shade? isnt basically the same thing

stoph
November 5th, 2009, 11:17 PM
i can see this being very useful for inkers with comic books, as the penciler could give some really good indications of the hatching in a fraction of the time. also gives you that old world lithograph feel, which is awesome :)

Raoul Duke
November 6th, 2009, 04:11 AM
...but I still dont think its worth it though, whatever happened to just tilting the pencil to shade? isnt basically the same thing
That's why I'd only buy it if I could test it out first.

OmenSpirits
November 6th, 2009, 02:21 PM
I paid with paypal so there's that. If it doesn't show up or turns out to be made out of balsa I can do a chargeback I guess.
let us know when it comes.

Might get one myself.

Oden
November 6th, 2009, 04:46 PM
mm, I like his art. You can see the pencil brush rake here and there in his stuff
http://pencilbrush.com/wp-content/gallery/random/untitled-1.jpg

EDIT: whoa didn't realise it was gonna be so big...I can remove it if it bugs people.

HunterKiller_
November 6th, 2009, 05:21 PM
This is totally giving me a geek hard on.

carlosranna
November 6th, 2009, 09:39 PM
Since i´m a cheap bastard, i´m going to stick some leads in bubble gum and try it out to see if i like it... Hehehe.....

nauvice
November 6th, 2009, 10:11 PM
Since i´m a cheap bastard, i´m going to stick some leads in bubble gum and try it out to see if i like it... Hehehe.....

ehhhh how about a kneaded eraser than bubble gum

Raoul Duke That's why I'd only buy it if I could test it out first.

word, I cant tell yet if its just one of those "inventions" that tweaks an side method of a tool a little bit and makes it its own tool (like an onion cutter as opposed to just using a knife). It seems more convenient but I could live without

carlosranna
November 7th, 2009, 01:22 PM
LOL! Good idea!

Greg Lambrakis
December 8th, 2009, 01:12 PM
Forgive me the minor necro here, but I figured that the couple of you guys who ordered
this thing should have received it by now. Just curious; is it any good?

Penumbra
December 8th, 2009, 02:57 PM
It's ok. I mean it's fun to have a new tool but it's not really much different than a carpenters pencil. The cross hatching effect is fine but as the leads dull it becomes less noticable. All in all I'd say that further practice with it might yeild some interesting results but it's not all that dramatic.

Two Listen
December 8th, 2009, 03:45 PM
Hmm...this looks interesting. I've recently been pretty bummed with my simple pencil and sketchpad, missing the quick flow and different edges from digital work and feeling somewhat lost without it.

I might look into this. I'll look into carpenter's pencils first, though. I get the feeling one might go through a lot of lead for something like this.

easydrawing1
December 10th, 2009, 11:38 AM
Did a search on this guy, Alexander Tarusha, illustrator on said site, couldn't find Jack!

hmm....anyone else know of this guy?

Hello OmenSpirits
This is The Illustrator in question, (Alexander Tarusha), you can direct any questions you may have about the tool to me and i may be able to explain some features of the pencilbrush or anything around drawing with it. I will be posting some art and tutorials soon enough here on CA. Here are some ref pics drawn with the Pencilbrush- http://www.conceptart.org/forums/album.php?albumid=2093

easydrawing1
February 20th, 2011, 05:02 AM
It's ok. I mean it's fun to have a new tool but it's not really much different than a carpenters pencil. The cross hatching effect is fine but as the leads dull it becomes less noticable. All in all I'd say that further practice with it might yeild some interesting results but it's not all that dramatic.
Hi Penumbra sorry for late reply on this,
The pencilrush is an excellent tool as i see it and have figured out from using it for some time now, not to blow my own horn here but once you get to try it and figure out what it can do in your drawing, apart from the range of techniques one can develop it you will like it because its versatile and dynamic.Its very simple in function(2 parts) needs no sharpening, the marking tip can be be rearranged fast and easy, and if the price seems dire i can tell its worth your investment, its virtually indestructible so it will last you more than any of the pencils or brushes one may have.As for the carpenters pencil i agree i find no argument against traditional tools, this is something new and as a new thing has to be figured out, if any of you guys are interested you can take a look on some you-tube videos and see it in action, I am posting these two pics,just for the sake of curiosity.
Cheers

easydrawing1
February 20th, 2011, 06:58 AM
Reminds me of a carpenter pencil. Is the advantage that you can load it with other leads types?
You can load it with 05 07 09 and 1.3 if you like, i find first 3 sizes being useful.
Im putting a series of vids on the tube, for anyone interested to see how i use it.