giving this one more go.

[battlebattle]

so ive decided im going to hit anatomy and light and shadow hard for a while.
ANY suggestions, tips, tutorials, sites.. ect please let me know.

alrighty. so i decided to make a new account and start fresh, in the last year or so realized things about myself as an "artist" which put me in the position to lose my passion of 18 years (22 now). i find myself practicing with no improvement and no kind of help. as if some how i cannot learn or ive reached some annoying limit
SO.

its been about 6 months and im starting back, i feel inspired and im going to hit this hard and really give it a last stand.

heres some shit ive been doing in class the last 2 weeks or so.

of course crits are welcome and yadda yadda.

sorry for the quality
alot to scan so im lazying it up

[Cam Sykes]

Ok to really improve, it helps a whole lot to get your foundational skills solid as possible. These would be excercies that you'd constanly go back to to stay sharp even when you feel that your skills are great.
The main things for a good foundation are knowledge and practice of the following:-

- Perspective: you want to give the viewer the illusion that your drawings are really objects within a space.

-Form: Learn your basic forms such as round, square, cylindrical, concial, pyramidal. Then you can combine these forms to build your drawings. When you grasp these forms you'll see that they make up everything and especially when you do anatomy study.

Composition: this can make a break an image. Even if an image is beautifully rendered, if it is not composed correctly there will always be something lacking in most cases.

Edges: this is similar to form but how you treat edges will affect how the viewer percieves the hardness or softness, material and weight of what your drawing. This can also aid in establishing a focal point in your drawing/painting.

The most valuable excercises in practicing these fundamentals is drawing from life. Also when you're not drawing really look at things, it may be the way someone walks, it may be the texture of some tree bark or it may be the way light hits some broken glass on the ground. It's a real trip when you start noticing these beautiful little things around you that many people are oblivious to.
As for books I must recomend those by Loomis, Bridgeman, Hogarth, and Richard Schmid's Alla Prima book. Out of these your best option is the Andrew Loomis books because they're free as a PDF download and Among his books he covers just about everything. Not sure the exact place to download them but just google his name.

I kind of went haywire in my improvement and am reutrning to the fundamentals as I feel I hadn't placed enough importance in it and am only realising now some really obvious stuff that would helped had I acknowledged it.

[Spaggen]

I'm really glad that you giving this one more go. I really like your drawings, epspecially your lines. Keep drawing (and comment my SB ;) :D) and you'll do fine!

Keep it up!

[battlebattle]

posemaniacs drawing
and surprise
an imagination drawing i dont hate.

thanks spag and sykes, im going to try everything i can think of =\

we'll see how that goes

[battlebattle]

yup..

[battlebattle]

i am trying.

i have no fucking idea what im doing.

i even tried not doing outlines so i could further grasp light and shadow.
hard.

also i forgot to do some stuff in the neck. but who cares. i spent long enough on it.

[towy]

i thiink you have good capacity, continue that cool!

[battlebattle]

thanks towy owie
keep on keeping on right.

more nonsense.

i really have no idea what the hell im doing.

[battlebattle]

as we can all see i clearly have no idea wtf i am doing.
trying to render with no outlines.

i thought midway id try the more hard line approach so its kind of half and half....

im going to keep working on it.
looking for some input

as we can all see i clearly have no idea wtf i am doing.
trying to render with no outlines. but i like this scribble style rendered.
also.. i found a brush i really like.
so.
progress.... yay

and i got bored before i finished the last.
im done for the night.

[battlebattle]

i think i figured out one of my weaknesses was that i have been self teaching for so many years i dont know enough of the fundamentals.

i dont know what they are.
but i decided to work heavy on my faces and light shadow.
and i think ive had a mild revelation with it... so thats good i guess.

[jeremymoore]

nice drawings. are you working from photos for the b/w studies?

[battlebattle]

thanks home skillet.

yeah i was, anything that looks too good is usually a ref ;(.
heres some stuff from figure drawing class. we had to use toned paper.

2 10 minutes.
2 15 minutes
and the huge one is 2 20s.


based on a series of characters i made up from the same model

[battlebattle]

we had a weird fig ill class this week, 30 minutes of 5 minutes and then 2 40 minutes.

i drew the great pumpkin lord, i didnt want to draw his weener so i drew a gun killing a bunny.
we had a laugh.

the second picture the werebunny possession kills the pumpking. but then...
his cool scarf catches on fire. is he dead?
find out next time?
probably not.

having problems getting the pumpking lined up correctly... i forgot what they taught us in design class...some setting where you could merge multiple scenes into one huge photo.. as if that was the original photo..

[battlebattle]

story boards because ive never done one
bayonetta
doodles
face meat practice, finally.
my faces still suck and it bothers me. so im going to find out why.

[Funkmachine]

Cool face muscle practice! I like it.Post more,please!

[battlebattle]

ive drawn some stuff, but i dont want to scan them.
so ill post the digitals i did in figure drawing class.

SO
i "know" what im doing and what i dont completely understand yet
but i have no idea what im doing..
confusing? welcome to my world =\

but i dont "hate" these. i think im figuring out my process.

[Strassenpenner08]

hey mate

great sketchbook so far !! Wanna see MUCH MOAR ^_^ some very cool stuff dude ! :D keep on updating :DDD

[battlebattle]

thanks penpen
im trying..
heres some sketches.. since i dont absolutely hate painting now i may color some.

AND.

heres a morrgain i colored to make sure the style i found wasnt a one time fluke.
and i dont hate it.

[teapo]

haha wow man, i see lots of improvement. this sketchbook is fun. gonna watch it ! ;3

keep up the good work buddy!!!

[battlebattle]

thanks teapo
youre like
my first fan.

[battlebattle]

so i saw interview with the vampire for the first time since i was little

what a fucking awesome movie. tom cruise played the hell out of lestat
pitt bendaras and for her age dunst did amazing jobs.

so i drew my creepyly attractive and suspiciously pale friend as a vampire.

the weird part is all i did was change her eyes and teeth.

-gulp-

fun.

[battlebattle]

some junk i was just doing but i decided i didnt like it mid way

[battlebattle]

going to be drawing alot of cosplay kids for practice.
and friends as monsters.
and the occasion idea from my head.

assuming i dont get bored with it and quit first

[battlebattle]

sadly i have not given up completely.
yet.
new bs that surprise. still looks like old bs.


for the picture with the black lady with the mask on her head. that was my most "challenging" picture yet. i spent 7 hours straight doing that. and 5 hours of that was just trying to get the face right.

the cammy was the second. almost 5 hours.
the face looked stupid and i didnt know how to fix it so i stopped.

[battlebattle]

im really.
really. really. trying.

study from a famous baroque painter.
i forget his name. but i remember loving his work in art history.

like 6 hours in

shoot my face

[battlebattle]

shoot me now

[sin eater]

nice start. i like your line quality.oh and those stylised digital paintings are nice. you are on the right track . keep on doing what you are doing and along with it do more of the basics like perspective and anatomy.. good luck

[battlebattle]

thanks sin
im trying to try =\

heres symphony in white no 1
well.
some of it.

yay for art history.

[battlebattle]

hour 20.

im settling into this.
going to try to do one or 2 of these a day.

try to get it tighter.
faster.
been watching alot of video tutorials and doing studies of some old master stuff.

yaddayadda. i dont hate this.

[battlebattle]

mhm...

[NeonDuck]

cool, your portraits are getting better and better!

i also really like your gestural drawings in post 4, i reckon you should do more of them. really basic, pen or pencil, and try to cram as much emotion/tension into very quick sketches. it'll help you loosen up, and ultimately make your art much much stronger

[teapo]

holy shit mang... you took a long ass break from updating, and now you've come back with all this awesome shit... not that your stuff wasn't awesome before.. but you're getting better buddy! ZOMG ... loving that master study.. and the cammy... old cammy?? GRANNY PANTIES AAHAHHAHAHAHA

[battlebattle]

thanks neon
i havent drew a picture into forever. trying to get my painting stronger. but drawing practice is on my list of things to do.

and teapo
lol..
the cammy isnt old it just sucks :) thats why its not finished =\
too many colors in the face for my brain to handle i guess and it was looking stupid so i said f it



also
i notice i am getting better. even over these last few paintings.
yet it is not getting easier <_<
at all.

sargent painting. i want to do the one of the guys daughters.
but im not ready for that yet..

[RoboBobo]

I've noticed several things and I'll be blunt with you. I see potential in you but I also see a lack of confidence. I don't think you're giving yourself enough credit in any area of your art. If you truly love art and drawing, you should NEVER have a last stand...ever. Reaching a plateau is 100% mental. Listen good to what Cam Sykes suggested to you because it couldn't have been said better. There's nothing wrong with teaching yourself because we've all done it. I'll be 30 this year and I've been sketching since I was 4. But there's always different areas to improve in. Use your love for drawing and do it every single day and remain humble at the same time. Arrogance takes over a lot of artists and it keeps them from growing. You're definitely not arrogant which is fantastic. Work on the fundamentals and keep this sketchbook going. I can't wait to see the progress!

[nemomarlin]

these are awesome! you're a good artist, keep it up
I think you're too hard on yourself(especially when many people are not as talent as you are).

[RoboBobo]

I've noticed several things and I'll be blunt with you. I see potential in you but I also see a lack of confidence. I don't think you're giving yourself enough credit in any area of your art. If you truly love art and drawing, you should NEVER have a last stand...ever. Reaching a plateau is 100% mental. Listen good to what Cam Sykes suggested to you because it couldn't have been said better. There's nothing wrong with teaching yourself because we've all done it. I'll be 30 this year and I've been sketching since I was 4. But there's always different areas to improve in. Use your love for drawing and do it every single day and remain humble at the same time. Arrogance takes over a lot of artists and it keeps them from growing. You're definitely not arrogant which is fantastic. Work on the fundamentals and keep this sketchbook going. I can't wait to see the progress!

[battlebattle]

yeah robo i get what you mean. of course i know it, but ive lost that natural feeling of enjoying it passionately and ive lacked noticeable improvement for the amount of time put in leads to more not likes than likes.
im whatever pass burned out is.
fun right.

and thanks nemo.
im trying.

anywho
some random girl for whatever reason i had on my computer
trying a new style.

**edit.
and another of the same. more emphasis how to blend the subtitle better.

[battlebattle]

its been over a year since i made this thread.
i started drawing again recently. i still suck. yay

[battlebattle]

yup...

[battlebattle]

i drew me
and face stuff.
somebody said shorter more focused studies work best and i think i upped my eye nose and mouth game after 5 hours of these studies.

[battlebattle]

the vader i did a few days ago. ive been rewatching star wars and trying to pull figure out of shapes instead of drawing lines.

its ok
i hate it the more i see it.

the second one is a mucha, im trying to replicate the whole thing and hopefully by the time im done my power level will have increased

[battlebattle]

warpaint
let the right one in
my friend deniss.
mhm.

[Aryeh]

Wow, impressive concepts you got going on here illustration wise. you seem very editorial!

love the way you render with hard edges in some of your work!

[battlebattle]

some new crap. practicing some fundamental stuff that probably wont be posted.
did these for fun.
gary oldman in blocks

and the girl from the office whos name i forget.

[battlebattle]

im done with traditional stuff for a while. going to paint garbage from my imagination for a while.

heres a crappy girl i didnt finish because it was sucking and i couldnt figure out how to make textures do things i want.

[battlebattle]

new junk dump.
the body is cool the face and neck are eh. but i dont hate it.

[battlebattle]

i havent been here for a while.
these are recent.

still suck though


(edit)
i just drew and added the xfiles picture at the bottom. honestly, needs more lens glare

[battlebattle]

something is always off. i dont know what.

[battlebattle]

more eh. always eh.