Worst famous painter

[RyerOrdStar]

Sorry but this is just cool

http://stardustandsequins.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/jeff-koons-preview.jpg?w=497&h=432

[Bill]

Maybe this thread could have been labled "Least Favorite Famous Artist" ... as opposed to "Worst".

Anyway... I never met Jenny Holzer but she apparently had a cup of coffee at Ohio U. and some of the faculty wouldn't shut up about it long enough to teach anything usefull to representational art. So between that and the fact she's apparentlly respected as an artist for whatever it is she does... she's my least favorite.
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And Elwell, there was a quote of yours upthread suggesting that absolutism is the luxury of amateurs. Well, speaking as an amateur, I can tell you that it's a well known fact that Siths also deal in absolutes. [1:30] Damnit.

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[AdventDawn]

Reading about Matise and several others of that 'kind' reminded me me of a conversation I had with a fellow graphic designer about the artscene in Washington DC, or lack thereof. They just grab a brush and paint some shitty looking figure with no sense of form, porportion, or anatomy, call it an abstract 'style', and parade themselves at Artomatic in the hope that kstreetkate blogs them as being the next Picasso.

Essentially, technical skill is irrelevant compared to who you know.

[Purrdey]

I had to write an essay comparing a Matisse still life with a Cezanne still life, contrasting their techniques etc and bring in parts of their backgrounds etc - it was a very similar subject, but chalk and cheese with the way they treated it. Neither artist is among my favourites but the excercise made me appreciate something about them.

For me Damian Hirst is probably the one that comes to mind when I think WTF? People have more money than taste or sense to buy that stuff. Most things I can look at and think, well I don't like it but I can see why someone would. Damian Hirst I just can't see it other than fashion and people buying what they are told is "art".

[TASmith]

There was a Damien Hirst exhibit at the MFA in Boston. For me it was an exploration of the frightening and grotesque, and I'm fine with that. I think it was done well. He got some strong reactions out of me when I looked at his work. Damien can take a nondescript glass panel with alluminum siding and make it dreadful - as in inspiring dread - and without putting a dead animal inside it. He's an artist obsessed with death and it's a big topic, worth exploring. I haven't written him off yet, although I'm not a big fan of death, myself. It's not something I think about a lot. Only when I wonder how healthy I am these days.

[George Abraham]

I was going to say Pricasso but I see the dude is making some improvement.

http://bardaveia.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/pricasso.jpg

[aefx]

Picasso? I'm not sure how anyone who is familiar with the work he produced through out his life could possibly consider him the worst famous painter. Granted he's perhaps not on the same level with Bouguereau or Repin as far as his technical abilities with oils but what does it take to be considered an at least half way decent painter on this forum these days?

[Elwell]

Picasso? I'm not sure how anyone who is familiar with the work he produced through out his life could possibly consider him the worst famous painter. Granted he's perhaps not on the same level with Bouguereau or Repin as far as his technical abilities with oils but what does it take to be considered an at least half way decent painter on this forum these days?
Not Picasso, Pricasso (http://www.pricasso.com/).

[aefx]

Not Picasso, Pricasso (http://www.pricasso.com/).That was a collective response to the number of people who mentioned Picasso such as aeron, etc.. odd timing I suppose.

[darkwolf29a]

Honestly, I have yet to find a known artist that doesn't have something cool. So, I am in the boat of...stupid thread. Sorry.

I have seen more than a few that I do not always understand though. I did expand my horizons though, a few year ago. I read the book, Why a Painting is like a Pizza (http://www.amazon.com/Why-Painting-Like-Pizza-Understanding/dp/0691090521/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1260203724&sr=8-1) It's about modern art and significantly raised my level of understanding of some art that I thought of as undesireable.

[sodAp]

I see people bash the likes of warhol, mattisse, picasso, etc, and after that go and draw some more manga, or read some more spiderman.

[Crush]

http://www.pricasso.com/images/home_1_19.jpg

Masterful.

[Black Spot]

TAS, you might be interested in this. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/turner-prize/6767001/Turner-Prize-Art-is-beautiful-again.html) Damien Hirst hasn't given up on Damien Hirst either.

[Slothboy3000]

He looks kind of like Timothy Treadwell (dude who got eaten by bears).

[jrr]

I see people bash the likes of warhol, mattisse, picasso, etc, and after that go and draw some more manga, or read some more spiderman.

err, dude, don't go hating on manga or spiderman. a person can enjoy all those things and know the definition of sophomoric

[Spirit]

I realise this is the Worst Famous Painter thread, but...

Tracey Emin. For anyone not familiar with her, she exhibited her unmade bed as part of the Turner prize exhibition. If you still don't know, google her - there is a lot of information on her. However, I do actually like some of what she does, not because of the "skill" (as I wouldn't call it art myself) but how there is actually a REAL story behind it from ehr own life, not just a load of crap with big words which means nothing whatsoever.
I just don't know what to think really :S Anyone else care to share their opinion on her work?

[nauvice]

Im late to the party, but I think there's a fine line between hating someone famous that you personally dislike, and hating someone famous that every respectable critique of that field loathes... but usually 30yrs from now noone will care for them anyway. no point in hatred/envy :\

[sodAp]

err, dude, don't go hating on manga or spiderman. a person can enjoy all those things and know the definition of sophomoric

i dont hate it, i just say that those are more related to picasso and the likes than they are to michaelangelo

[Chimi]

You people are silly, the WORST most famous painter would be the FIRST person to have ever painted...he or she would have SUCKED!!! XP its true isnt it XD

[Téa_Passer]

I have a perhaps unhealthy contempt towards some artists today who turn urinals upside down and call it art...

[Slothboy3000]

...artists today who turn urinals upside down and call it art...

I thought he died in the 60s! :O

I realise this is the Worst Famous Painter thread, but...

Tracey Emin. For anyone not familiar with her, she exhibited her unmade bed as part of the Turner prize exhibition. If you still don't know, google her - there is a lot of information on her. However, I do actually like some of what she does, not because of the "skill" (as I wouldn't call it art myself) but how there is actually a REAL story behind it from ehr own life, not just a load of crap with big words which means nothing whatsoever.
I just don't know what to think really :S Anyone else care to share their opinion on her work?


It's a totally different form of art as far as I'm concerned. As an example, you tend to get illustrators who hate on it because it's not to their personal tastes, but to me its like a Hematologist hating on a rocket scientist because he doesn't know much about blood transfusions.
Conceptual Art clearly has it's place in art history, whether traditional folk like that or not.

[nauvice]

I like conceptual artwork, the first I ever heard of it was in art history class and the Three chairs piece. Thought it was brilliant.

[Two Listen]

I disapprove.

[Writerof]

How to dislike a piece of artwork. Actually that's hard for me, I can only judge on something I know and have seen. I have seen many artists work and many I was in awe of, but I also seen many I have been less then happy with. I never ever dismiss a piece of art though on the artist himself. As a whole life treads away many paintings are made by said artist. Many to dislike but also a chance to like a piece.

A artist grows or withers away in obscurity but whatever they have painted remember some have and are masters in their genre and have redifined the landscape.

Personally I dislike most of Andy Warhol's work. It might be true that he set a new standard but I can never grasp the essence of a tin can standing on a chair as a work worth millions. The artist may be a fine artist but, please, show at least some craftsmanship and not a drug induced haze!

Greetz

[Randis]

I suggest people take a look at, say, the reviews on Amazon sometime. You'll find that the even most horrendous piece of crap is somebody's favorite something, while things that are considered classics are absolutely hated by somebody. As I've said before, the problem is that people often seem to confuse aesthetics with morality.


This would be the ideal case Elwell, i agree with you but do not forget that in our world it also often matters how well connected you are than actual skill.
Personal taste is often not as personal, this the advertising companies discovered very long ago.
You can make thing become IN. People can be MADE.

Having powerful friends can catapult you to the top, with power and money you can compensate for skill. We all see it every day.
It is the same with arts.

Not every artist of course but since we all sit in the same pot, talking about art is always a double standard...

[Peter Coene]

I think it is rather difficult to call any artist "overrated." Not that I always agree with all the hype that's out there, but this is something that boils down to how art is rated.

There are three ways to look at what makes "good art," or for that matter, what makes something art. One is how it is defined by the artist, the second is how it is defined by an institution, and the third is how it is defined by society in general.

What we have to remember is that as soon as we talk about how an artist is rated (overrated/underrated) we can be referring to any of these ways of defining art. However, because that can also be a way of defining good art it can therefore neither be overrated nor underrated, just rated.

As such when we say "overrated" or "underrated" what we really mean is that either our institution rates the art differently than society does, or else we as artists rate it differently. ConceptArt.org is an institution. (And for better or for worse is an institution which is gaining in prevalence, if Mr. Manley's plans are any indication.)

As an institution we promote certain forms of art and simultaneously shun others. However, outside of our institution, out in the real world, those opinions mean jack-diddly-shit. Even in the industry what we do here is usually not what is expected of a concept artist. My AD, for example, does not want polished pretty paintings from me, he wants rough sketches and lots of them so that he has options. What the majority of fledgling artists within this institution are striving to create is not the majority of work that is needed within the industry. Yes, there is a place for it (usually as promo art for "the art of" books) but it is not the end all be all that we often present it as.

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Actually, that brings me to the best answer I can think of. The most overrated art, at least on these boards, is over-polished pseudo concept art.