Blackburn Sketchbook | Sketches and junk

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I'm mostly self taught, 19 year old artist, I work on a lot of indy games & mods and would like to learn 3D modeling as well.

Crits are highly appreciated

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qquHXoNFpcU/TfARyKzTshI/AAAAAAAAATY/phcqR644DJ8/s1600/illustration.jpg

[GETBUCK]

spookyy
show me some more :)

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reserved

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spookyy
show me some more :)

sry I was just getting first post in, I'm still posting new work...

I really don't know what I'm doing with figures... at all...

[Cranberry]

Envire is looking nice. Studies and pencils need a lot more work. Look into some Bridgman and Loomis books!

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I was waiting for somebody to mention these, I've done enough lurking to know the names but amazon searches turn up several titles - which one do I pick!?!

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a study I did, still wanting to know title of loomis or bridgman book to buy

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a study

any reply on what Loomis book to buy?

I will scan my sketchbook soon - got midterms around the corner, portfolios are posted through, lots to post =P

[Zorcron]

hey man CA is where its at keep the sketches coming

[Zorcron]

Figure drawing, for all its worth

is the title you are looking for its all over the internet and these forums though unless you are dead set on having a copy in real life

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out from the shadows

some are studies, others are just random musings

I've since taken a life drawing class, about 20 4 hour sessions, I'll post some scans when I get around to scanning anything

I need to start painting daily again =/

[Ranger of the North]

Talk about a definite improvement!


I'm interested in seeing how much you have progressed with life drawing/anatomy, it might just inspire me to improve my own skill (or lack thereof) with it as well.

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back from lurking =P

study of a technique painting

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http://www.cgpad.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10911&d=1284704782
http://www.cgpad.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10902&d=1284613472
http://www.cgpad.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=11049&d=1285312819

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trying to work on figures EVERY day, I have lots more to scan

I also have a blog with more studies and paintings
http://blackburn-art.blogspot.com/

crtique desired

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more speedpainting http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4Dp07sQPoRU/TP7K6qqdRsI/AAAAAAAAABw/hfRmQ9u7VFM/s1600/6.jpg

[NickyBeats]

hey there man, great digital work! you seem to be doing good with those digital studies, keep those up. as far as the pencil stuff goes, i would just really focus on simple proportions at the moment. try to guage how big the head is compared to the rest of the body, or how far the arms come down on the body, do alot of sketches of this type, but most importantly OBSERVE these things, really try and focus on storing these things into your memory. it will come in handy later on, when your trying to build figures from memory. theres tons of references on human anatomy, and proportions in the forums section, under references. but i would get a book too, something by andrew loomis, or burne hogarth might be good to start out with, then once you become more familiar with proportions, and general shapes of the figure, you may want to delve into some george bridgeman, his book on anatomy "the complete guide to drawing from life" is like my bible. but just keep studying, keep drawing, keep observing, and keep working hard!! youll get there in no time!

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thanks for the advice, I have all of those books and then some, and have been delving through bridgman, the ones I posted are from photographic studies however. I've also taken a life drawing class and am probably gonna take another. You would think I'd be better but I was pretty awful when I started, lol

heres some recent figure studies:
EDIT: just realized I reposted some previous ones, heres the ones I meant to post lol:

http://imgur.com/qfYeX.jpg

http://imgur.com/xVuAu.jpg

and I have more to scan....

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simple sketches, something a little more finished eventually

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blech, wip, idk what to do with em

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I am dissapoint

[Parsakoira]

freaking awesome environments! Now push that same skill to character designs too and youll get far :)

[Ellipses]

thanks for the kind words

update to this character - I wish I were good at characters =[ /sob

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some props and random doodles and things

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4Dp07sQPoRU/TQcp-aYvGWI/AAAAAAAAADQ/-iDJaTjA6m8/s1600/prop-example.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4Dp07sQPoRU/TQcfFj-3YSI/AAAAAAAAAC4/_UUhOsriQP0/s1600/celestial-focus.jpg

[trout mix]

I have to say, I like your painting a lot. Only thing bad about them is the Composition. I'd recommend this (http://www.amazon.com/Art-Tangled-Jeff-Kurtti/dp/0811875555/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1292320514&sr=8-1). I've heard it's good for storyboarding and composition.

As for your figures, your proportions are off by a lot.

This is only a suggestion but it's helped a lot of people:

Try using Andrew Loomis' Figure Drawing for All It's Worth as a start for anatomy. Do NOT get stuck doing Loomis only though, just try his method for bodies.

Also, for facial features, try to combine them into a face instead of piece by piece, this helps you learn propotions for the human face and they better your faces.

Last thing: learn the skull. It will greatly help your form in your faces.

[NeonDuck]

hm, you've got a strange contrast going on between your digital paintings (they're good), and your pencils, which are quite a bit off.

looking at your pencils in particular i'd say you're lacking solid foundations - you don't seem to do any construction or development of your forms at all. you'll have to work on that, otherwise you're going to get badly stuck.
It's harder to tell with your photoshop drawings because there it's much easier to gloss over mistakes with fancy brushes and colours, but your pencils are usually where your true skill shines through.

loomis is a good recommendation, have a look at how he constructs things in perspective and from primitives. that's the very basics of drawing. hogarth is good for that too, altho his distinct style is hard to understand.
there's also a process every drawing goes through, from very faint "gesture" lines to a blocking stage of major shapes to more refined final shapes. the idea is to build up a drawing over time so you can correct at every step.

another tip i think might be useful: always consider the whole drawing. sounds obvious, but most proportion and perspective issues happen when you're drawing one area without considering the whole drawing. for example you might draw part of the head, and get really into it and get excited, but when you're done with it you look at the rest of the body and realise the head was way too small all along. this takes some practice but is incredibly important! with every line you make, consider what it does to the drawing as a whole.

finally, I think you can improve a ton by watching your lines! you tend to make lots of scribbly hesitant lines to make up your drawings, it looks very scratchy. have a look at mike mattesi's blog (or book, "force"), you'll see what you can achieve with confident, strong lines instead. you'll need to develop your line quality in order to convey weight, force, intent, or direction in your drawings

phew, that could've easily turned into a really long post :P

I hope you don't mind me criticising your work for that long, keep drawing!

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NeonDuck, trout mix: I downloaded all of the andrew loomis books, is it true they're out of print? I also have a paper edition for bridgman but all his figures are super beef cakes and don't really look "normal" (they're still excellent drawings) but he must be the michelangelo of the figure drawing world, lol

I appreciate that you guys have taken the time to go through such a critique, probably the most insightful things I've heard in some time. Other art forums I get nothing but good jobs because my paintings far exceed my drawings (on account I've done far more painting study and practice than I have drawing, lol)

I hope to eventually catch my drawing up to speed, I've also been browsing amazon for some books that may inspire me and give insight on figure drawing & art in general

Any other names, links, and resources are always appreciated, and insight on what I am doing wrong is very appreciated.

I wish I could draw with line worth a damn digitally, I'm gonna run out of paper lol

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watching fheng zhu videos, he inspires me to attempt to refine paintings

I probably should have made him chopping a tenticle arm off or something, for more interest... oh well...

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I wanted to add some more for this but don't really know what to do....

[Rabbi Satan]

As others have recommended the classics, I'll throw one out:

Get Hampton's (http://www.amazon.com/Figure-Drawing-Invention-Michael-Hampton/dp/0615272819/ref=sr_1_4_title_0_main?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1290332455&sr=1-4) book on figure invention, that'll help you loads. Wish I had it when I first started, would've saved me a significant amount of time on learning how to draw and construct figures, both from real life and imagination.

Anyway, your environ in your first post has killer atmosphere. You later environs show good promise. Keep it up!

[trout mix]

I wish I could paint like you.

[Somelar]

landscapes are good! i like bright and clear colors.

[My57]

speed paintings are quite good! but I would recommend some more longer paintings and of course anatomy studies.

Just keep up the good work. Hope you found the books on the forum :P They're pretty easy to get.

[Ellipses]

I have yet to find the necessary motivation to get crackin on some bridgman books.

I have been working on this one for a couple hours, a couple more hours to finish it soon

[Zorcron]

good start with this one, i would spend longer then 2 more hours on it and start back in with bigger harder brushes.

also I dont know if you have ref for this one but if not now is the time to go grab a bunch of ref to work off of. see you round bro, keep up the good fight

[Ellipses]

thanks bro glad to see you're still around

I have some references for the trains, I wanted to do the back cart tipped over and a lot of rubble

I definitely need to bring the edges of the front train out

for now I'll work on easy things like rubble and the grass, lol

[Ellipses]

I need to return to the basics and work on my foundations and line drawing... I am trying to learn too much at once

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I still suck at drawing people and portraits, you can see my suck at my blog below

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Update:
Random sketches, game design stuff, other crap

I need to get back into doing more serious, refined art...

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tonights random drawings

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I am hoping to improve, unfortunately right now I only little bits of time here and there. I am wishing to spend more time on art in a month from now...

Critiques and recommendations desired.

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new painting soon

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moars

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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ME14ItPfze0/TapxE6KjkYI/AAAAAAAAANg/30JJqRf-OLo/s1600/anna-portrait.jpg

portrait and last figure drawing are both from life, going to be doing more stuff from life this spring and summer =]

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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lyUusXNrQlE/Ta6FZCRGZII/AAAAAAAAAOI/zG1RKG-C_CE/s1600/SS6.jpg

some bad figure drawings, 45 seconds each... I grip the pen too tightly when I draw and paint...

inspired by the new design cinema:

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more art at blog: http://blackburn-art.blogspot.com/

[Urötskidoji]

Hey, you have some great ideas and concepts! I would suggest you did some landscape studies, they could really boost your skills in environments:http://www.ctrlpaint.com/home/2011/2/12/what-is-a-study-anyway.html
You also have a good sense of color, continue studying complementary colors and stuff like that. Keep up the good work! :)

[Danny_K]

some of your environments are truly good, keep up with the bridgeman studies he is the man!

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Urötskidoji: Thanks for link, I try to study as often as possible

Danny K: thanks, will continue figure drawing \m/

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sry for only posting stupid sketches, I have been lazy =[

I like how the far left figure looks a little bent over, something I've been having difficulty with

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and then this weird bad matte painting / photo manip crap....

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dSnqKN4IFgo/TbT9suEG_lI/AAAAAAAAAO8/enPn6woTdiQ/s1600/hurray-bad-photo-manip-painting.jpg

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why do I still suckkkkk

FFFFFFFFFFFFFF

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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OqtXndi2M_U/TbZjssnY1tI/AAAAAAAAAPs/mXbX7FMxsHA/s1600/origins-sketch-3.jpg first invented figure in a while

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3EHZOWiWRfE/TbZjsSKVyEI/AAAAAAAAAPk/0w5AcetztCI/s1600/random-disaster%2521.jpg random space explosion!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6u3bXtLW6PI/TbZjrzoUWsI/AAAAAAAAAPc/RFTrSy5nCMI/s1600/crazy-pouring-rain-one.jpg random dynamic angle!

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still studying...

[raminafshari]

second art piece in post #50 is nice .

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haven't been doin much drawin' =/

[in2eternity]

Beautiful enviros here, I like how you use color so much ) Keep it up!

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I suck at people, heads, portraits, everything =[

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7unHnDo81Z0/TeCVRjzJYmI/AAAAAAAAARM/XpUVrrwvI0M/s1600/07.jpg

study of a nice painting I found, trying to expand my color pallets.

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=/

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first longpaint in a while, would like critiques'

(still wip)
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[in2eternity]

Well, what about people, just study a little more anatomy, not just gestures, and you'll quickly get where you want )

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continued wip

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once in a while I like one of my figures, but not often

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blah

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blah

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I am pretty happy with how this one came out

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thanks for any crits

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her boobs are so herp derpy

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these studies aren't getting very far...

tips?

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some random feng zhu paint-alongs with his awesome youtube videos.. my enviro skills are slipping..

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moar!

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I am starting to fail

[rumpenstiltzkin]

great enviros! really good stuff, also keep up all the studies, watch out for your proportions.
keep it up man! :)

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rumpenstiltzkin thanks for input, I continue to struggle with proportions =[ I want to get better at art but lately I don't really know what to do... My foundations suck and I am not sure how to learn properly. Studies aren't really doing it for me lately, I am trying to figure out how to sit down and really learn.

[rumpenstiltzkin]

just continue to struggle! eventually you get there... but maybe you should look at some bridgman or vilppu for proportions of the body and such instead of doing it from photos, unless you have the possibility to go to lifedrawings with an instructor to help you out.
keep it up! :)
i like the skullcave, nice spooky mood!

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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-H-Vauce_TS8/Tg5qyhbRlJI/AAAAAAAAAWQ/bptoJNOSbGo/s1600/shit-studies-1.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-US4l_vl99po/Tg5qxwDPTkI/AAAAAAAAAWI/9ZdAC2mSAXo/s1600/shit-imagination-1.jpg

some sketches, my eyes are bad =[

[Umbravita]

Keep going, keep practicing and you'll get there! :)

[trout mix]

Hey Eclipse, try drawing circles, perfect from every angle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio

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Umbravita: Thanks!

trout mix: I have little idea what most of that wiki means, not being much of a math person. More importantly, how will it help?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3pGAYIUcDj4/ThfyC-oqhII/AAAAAAAAAWg/tB6eot19S4Y/s1600/hi-liam.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-S6NN38hI7E0/ThfyCbuec4I/AAAAAAAAAWY/Dmx8TIqv_Yk/s1600/poses7-9-11.jpg

I have been doing some pen and paper drawings, thumbnails, some perspective stuff, etc

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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XhJrIr4-nSo/TiIb_EyWFdI/AAAAAAAAAWo/GJeXPUhDMgc/s1600/figures-7-16-11.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gAsuKRnawV4/TiIb_pCom6I/AAAAAAAAAWw/scqdZ8UqAso/s1600/figure-sketch-712.jpg

haven't been sketching as much =[

I need to study more =[

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some sketches from this week or so...

I am not sure how to focus my studies

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SHdAdVQtR58/TiSWplnBbXI/AAAAAAAAAXI/6VYQOxSht8o/s1600/2011-07-18_16-18-54_614.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BKJnAlLK7gs/TiSWpZrzoKI/AAAAAAAAAXA/fXafhF3KF54/s1600/2011-07-18_16-19-36_574.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bjzvCjL-VU8/TiSWqFkAyEI/AAAAAAAAAXQ/SlFm4CDr7Ko/s1600/thumbnails.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Wuj0f8faGLc/TiJNT31qU4I/AAAAAAAAAW4/0GHW7Q0Iyr8/s1600/wood-sketch.jpg

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studies and sketches

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-sYLNpzttKW4/TipVblc3xjI/AAAAAAAAAXg/6EsjF6LiS-M/s1600/quick-sketch.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3x0zZYDrtpo/TipVbCTbW-I/AAAAAAAAAXY/_9Vx3SgatMI/s1600/studie2.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7_Wy0xQ3NiY/TipoihBc80I/AAAAAAAAAXo/SkwdbaJV-CA/s1600/studie3.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tNhBm8EBSBA/Tip5UjyXlaI/AAAAAAAAAXw/w3vcaHFkCS8/s1600/sketch1.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XTJLLK6arYY/Tip5h8M1CaI/AAAAAAAAAYA/3faXICyi1Gk/s1600/studie4.jpg

[Valyavande]

Your environments are just great! Cool colours and the brushstrokes look confident. I miss that in the human figure studies. And maybe the computer is not the best thing for making sketches. The lines in the pencil sketches look much better.
And some people said it already: keep an eye on the proportions. Maybe you can use a grid to get the basic proportions right before going on working on shadows, hightlights and so on. Or draw and paint it like always and when lay it over the original to see the problems for yourself. Sharpen your eyes foru your own flaws

[obier]

I'd recommend you to get a big roll of paper and chalk for drawing.And start drawing masses instead of lines - it's way easier method to study proportions.It's important to observe and compare the proportions to each other(e.g how long is the head compared to the torso, how wide are shoulders compared to the hips and how big mass takes up the head compared to the torso - i mean how many heads fit into the ribcage, into the waist area etc.).I also recommend not to measure only with your eye, but also with a pencil or what not.About Loomis i think it might be too much for you to handle right now, but if you feel it helps - then keep doing it.I also rcmnd you to look up riley's method of drawing- there are also videos about it in the youtube.

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I just need to practice more =/ Been so lazy lately with both my personal paintings, work paintings, and studies

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-F21E1cUE8kc/TiuyoiEjpxI/AAAAAAAAAYI/2MnQJTD4H8Q/s1600/shit-lol.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-U64r50HqkGg/Ti-m4pWvHkI/AAAAAAAAAYQ/XHWuXLNlUk0/s1600/fucked-up-hands-lol.jpg

[Xelar]

I really like your enviros and your colors look solid,too.
Your figures however need some work.
Your studies look a bit wonky, especially the placement of the eyes continues to be a problem throughout your SB.
Maybe you shouldn't go straight to color in your stuides and construct the figures instead of copying values.

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my faces struggle every single time. I simply do not understand construction, no matter how many times I go over it. I am trapped in this battle of "well, if you construct it with a set method, you will have the same head every time!" and thats about where I get lost. I am starting to see a little improvement, and sometimes I just get lucky - I really need to put them in like a lineup in chronological order to further study these results.. but I find the more I simplify the shapes, colors, and values (because I CANNOT draw with line, lol, I just have to paint em) the better they turn out - I find the boldness portrays the face adequately, without being overly difficult making me RAGE QUIT

I try to do a portrait study every day but it is hard to stay on track, and I find my environments suffer without sufficient attention to their upkeep. Poor enviros :(

I feel some parts of my studies work once in a while, other times they are just bad, usually the faces are very bad

case in point:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wHu5b0xda1o/TjQ3xWWuCOI/AAAAAAAAAYY/kC9x8tLwhj8/s1600/730.jpg

my pencil drawings suck lately =/

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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ch6KEXF5j_4/TmGmETgnVlI/AAAAAAAAAZY/Hi92PT-MW6g/s1600/twister.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OfAfFnKFn9Q/Tk_Ztyo-UVI/AAAAAAAAAZI/TiCwPn6ibBw/s1600/background-sketch2.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-n0fQKAkunNw/Tk8rx0D664I/AAAAAAAAAYw/yYwNn99D0bU/s1600/tsunami.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gBHpR7h20oY/Tk8rxWUZD3I/AAAAAAAAAYo/IP2FcTZHQqg/s1600/dark-omen-2.jpg

haven't painted in a while =/

[Aryeh]

damn dude. i can tell your going to be really good!

[Forrest_I]

It seems like with a lot of your figure and anatomy studies you maybe aren't spending much time on them. A lot of them seem to be off, like being too short or at an angle or just something doesn't seem right with it. Take your time. Take the time to look at your studies and copy it the exact way you see it. Same goes with the digital drawings of girls. A lot of them had very scribbled alrge areas of color for a body, but then had a miniature sized face. Take your time with it all, if something doesn't seem right then fix it before you jump in to detail.

On your next digital study of a girl try sticking to a minimum brush size and try not to zoom in during it at all. Focus on the color and the value on the figure in large areas and then you can slowly start refining from there. Your environments look very very nice, I think if you could learn to take the time to refine your studies like you take the time to work on your environments then you could make some pretty amazing stuff.

Also, do you flip the canvas occasionally while you paint?

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Thanks Aryeh

Forrest - you're exactly right, I do not spend as much time on my characters / figures. I should probably spend a little more time on them, and more time on my art in general. Thanks for the input!

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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_DFymmN6Hak/ToKIbe-JCCI/AAAAAAAAAaY/vJm9hcj6aks/s1600/stage-2.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QqseBSfp-GM/ToKIbkZcr7I/AAAAAAAAAag/TYBFmRToD1w/s1600/cave-background.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KOEvCXIGjBg/ToKH6ADtENI/AAAAAAAAAaA/wXL_VvgOrho/s1600/sdfsdf.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3Z9TTWTKuHI/ToKH54TCZEI/AAAAAAAAAZ4/KhTwvM9MCh4/s1600/01.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zrlVnHFGMrs/ToKH5v8XwgI/AAAAAAAAAZw/1VXFxh6F_Nc/s1600/hew.jpg

I am not happy with my art lately =|

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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-M_MJm6Fxip8/ToPXzBqMCoI/AAAAAAAAAao/_PBNezg6urE/s1600/meh.jpg

[Ccs]

Color is definitely your forte. You could be a very good painter. However your lines need work. I also recommend Mattesi's book.Aso John H. Vanderpoel's "The Human Figure" is really good.

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I hated his book - I copied the drawings several times, which were okay, but the text in the book was garbage IMO, way too wordy / trying to sound intelligent but just coming across as pretentious - if you are trying to teach a subject from ground up, its safe to assume your reader is starting at the ground - and therefore should be fairly simply worded.

I much prefer the writing styles of bridgman and loomis, which are far more to the point. Vanderpoel IMO is not worth the $2.50+shipping it costs on amazon =P


and here is a token image so I do not have an imageless post =P
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jnieopXHFKg/Tok6RFwY1EI/AAAAAAAAAaw/5qzci7CNDz0/s1600/quick-update.jpg

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I am struggling to paint to the best of my ability... need more studies =|



http://i.imgur.com/PIvjK.jpg

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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9c5SOywfxBQ/Tp9wzR-iY-I/AAAAAAAAAbc/CEl4jtlbYv4/s1600/thumbnail.jpg

just a 10 minute sketch..

got a lot of paper stuff to scan, if I ever scan it..

[A Faux]

Hey man, you have really sick colour skills!
If you want a crit; Maybe sharpen some stuff up, some of your stuff looks a little too loose, maybe a hard edge or two would really make those wepon designs jump out of the page!

Still, very cool stuff :]

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thanks for the input - balancing my edges has been something I have been thinking about, and bringing a more focused composition through the use of strategic edges around focal point

Some shitty sketches!:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rdimkD1R7BQ/TqCUinqC63I/AAAAAAAAAbo/UCb5GUEmh0w/s1600/sketches.jpg

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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-snsvkea0NXc/TqdQP4BUQwI/AAAAAAAAAb0/Z7eNV259CBs/s1600/asdf.jpg

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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-78R8mb3yb6I/Tqdxaf5VuMI/AAAAAAAAAcA/-yWRXmEO3Hg/s1600/refd.png

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I actually had to rename "wtfisthis.jpeg" to "wtfisthis2.jpeg" because wtf is this already existed... pretty sad... Title says it all.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-O3gt2mcHDmE/Tqq_KxJIwgI/AAAAAAAAAcY/AWYUTr6WjrI/s1600/wtfisthis2.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ic4b_1XyPNE/Tqq_KkU7TgI/AAAAAAAAAcM/5bYsfJEdtEs/s1600/10-mins.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-idlRTzeEx2A/Tqq_LO00_rI/AAAAAAAAAcg/F_VmzikMbqs/s1600/moar.jpg

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I am actually pretty happy with this, I will probably hate it when I get home

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DuZVPMPybBc/TqsLSV-LC4I/AAAAAAAAAc8/ZwriWdEjvXU/s1600/portrait-study-1028.jpg

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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CMPH2cxp4fk/TrCLGQS2aeI/AAAAAAAAAdU/6_3nD-OKxRc/s1600/blackburnartsdfsdf.jpg

woo for self portrait day

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resurrected an old sci fi painting, and did a knight study. I like that the sci-fi can have pretty fun colors, however its really lacking depth and mood...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-h5a7l7kBmz8/TrDEECT_k6I/AAAAAAAAAdg/UJwi_0imr4w/s1600/wip.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YSubQfMGrSE/TrDEH10InHI/AAAAAAAAAds/PUe8c4hVY-M/s1600/knight-study-11-1.jpg

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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gAqTUW9N1r8/TsdKmJIwknI/AAAAAAAAAfA/WHZ0O5EpBs8/s1600/01.jpg

I recorded this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnsAkqlp7zE

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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8KCKQA4vKW4/TsyQo2b4eiI/AAAAAAAAAfM/Dwk8-wVCEwo/s1600/1.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dZwL8Lc73nM/TsyQpJPPPlI/AAAAAAAAAfY/GcdTwysJsCE/s1600/2.jpg

Attempting more anatomy stuff

Free painting tutorial (and more paintings) on my blog =]

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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5UfjY5pR7zE/Ts3t-aho3OI/AAAAAAAAAgU/7EzjOUOXmsg/s1600/meh.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WXBfjq_w748/Ts3t-U-VUGI/AAAAAAAAAgI/cqYQ18rp8EU/s1600/ho-shit.jpg

once again exemplifying the difference between my painting and drawing...

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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Vtq0QWoxWeQ/Ttad4xnso1I/AAAAAAAAAgg/zDuj9or9RK0/s1600/20-minute-study.png

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PqH-AqdrTdg/Tt77isMnU_I/AAAAAAAAAgs/nAQMbZmiynI/s1600/bad-guys-lair.png

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vAl0GM0tfN8/Tt_WNTDvmiI/AAAAAAAAAg4/lQLRF8DMhi0/s1600/rained-shanty-town.png

[Maerrick]

I'm sure you've heard this already but, your environments and background paintings are far more superb compared to your humans and anatomy. I'm actually impressed with your approach towards environmental stuff.

Despite the huge contrast in capabilities, I feel your efforts to study both are equally applied!

The funny thing is, I am like you, but the other way around for environments. If your interested, perhaps we can exchange our strengths to one another. PM me if your interested!

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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gnVdQZs0B9Y/TuYsdZ-kv_I/AAAAAAAAAhE/r0iT_cjm510/s1600/blight-forest.jpg

Another sketch - I need to get back to doin studies.

Thanks for the input Maerick, and the continued discussion on art, it was insightful and helpful.

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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FTd5Q4jlbdk/TugDM93E7SI/AAAAAAAAAhc/jvGQCMghC74/s1600/03.jpg

moar

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some derpy studies

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-L6Xm5NMKojI/TujWAaoOaSI/AAAAAAAAAho/iBamg-7h0qk/s1600/crimson-dagger-study-1.jpg

I'm gonna start trying to do the daily routine with the crimson dagger studies - that seems like a really effective way to make progress, having a schedule like that.

[DennisH-Art]

Seen some of your stuff on Moddb! Really dig your enviroments! Keep up the good work!

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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zNVkQ99j30Q/TurdGfhPa8I/AAAAAAAAAh0/uChUNxhiLfM/s1600/sketch-1216.jpg

Just a quick sketch, I'm trying to make time for master studys, of rembrandt, sargent, etc - I really love the brush strokes found in oil paintings, they're so alive.

Is anybody interested in forming a small study group? Following in the crimson dagger method, of studying everyday at a set time? We could do themes, subjects, anatomy, portraits, etc. I have a lot of books, videos, etc, but I would like to share my thoughts with somebody, and my old friend is busy with art school (I cant afford art school, lol)

Thanks for any critiques, it all means a lot to me, I really want to get better.

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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-M4ubUe1hLKM/TwabUUW5ugI/AAAAAAAAAiA/PcNsobvwsr4/s1600/study-2-2012.jpg

trying to stay on schedule for the new years resolution of daily drawing, lol

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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--tbSacad1so/TwfONXMV7jI/AAAAAAAAAiM/o_DK24M-umY/s1600/study-3-2012.jpg

start of a still life.

STUDYYYY :yayca:

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http://i.imgur.com/iv3Bq.jpg

haven't done pose maniacs in a while

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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mXh6LtjmaIA/TxTkyYSmJzI/AAAAAAAAAiY/51byjryU-EU/s1600/still-life-2.jpg

an update, haven't worked on it in a few days...

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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JEt5sb9ovWA/TxmnpmHz8wI/AAAAAAAAAik/i9UKrBO18fI/s1600/painting-trio.jpg

just some quick thumbnails to get the enviro blood flowing.

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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gRiyYTdCRzc/TxsgcI_MHsI/AAAAAAAAAiw/uUgyTFrMwEk/s1600/da-speedpaint-1.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-X6z0ABm7YMY/TxsgcYYR1bI/AAAAAAAAAi8/NFsxKHXZ-ww/s1600/painting-trio2.jpg

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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RojZrUcUU7U/Tys1x2yfKEI/AAAAAAAAAjI/JgWMU2JJyT8/s1600/feb-study-1.jpg

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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9BTN4rYo4pM/Tytuo_ycUWI/AAAAAAAAAjU/ZDcQjci9R3Q/s1600/speed-1.jpg 'nother

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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lHPBesJpPrw/TyyVqquhH3I/AAAAAAAAAjg/pZCbRK0ETUA/s1600/speed-2.jpg

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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-k2it8a-Hcf4/TyyiSSYcsXI/AAAAAAAAAjs/Bed_lpE_8r4/s1600/speed-3.jpg one more for the night

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gonna be doing some life work, studies, etc, this week.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pKQxNREIups/TzAvkj-ViNI/AAAAAAAAAj4/Q5zbQPRDpJQ/s1600/feed-zone-da-speed.jpg

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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PED21lImjSo/TzHJu4HR6GI/AAAAAAAAAlU/OauPqTvKva8/s1600/8.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gKSac_FG8o0/TzHJpePxNtI/AAAAAAAAAk0/c9I359y0dz4/s1600/5.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-B98Gx638ho0/TzHJo3oZJtI/AAAAAAAAAkE/_Vt4YOHyxxA/s1600/1.jpg

just a selection of some of my back to the basics drawings.

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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-C6koj3L9KLY/TzHgfnAiS-I/AAAAAAAAAlw/SxK9BDhjCrw/s1600/film-study-1.jpg

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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tAmwZBJOp4Q/TzH-cjxzYiI/AAAAAAAAAl8/w5rG5K0_4PU/s1600/sky-is-falling.jpg

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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ChHL3xD6PD0/TzHJune9GAI/AAAAAAAAAlA/By9KGhiGhho/s1600/6.jpg

man is it ever hard to get comments on this site, lol

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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zv53_anhnX4/TzMqGieFgwI/AAAAAAAAAmI/hguKj13lmGQ/s1600/repaint-1.jpg

working on repainting and redoing some of my oldest work & studies, may or may not continue this beyond 1 image...

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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fqG_VDoeq8E/TzHJvOOhGHI/AAAAAAAAAlg/84oyB16si58/s1600/9.jpg

[Adrianor]

You're like the exact opposite of me: I suck at drawing enviros but I'm okay drawing figures/people. So, if you want to get better at drawing people, I'd say learn the proportions, and do a bunch of studies before drawing from imagination (I'm not saying you shouldn't draw from imagination, but you should have a solid knowledge). Good luck and keep drawing more awesome environments as well!

Ps: I agree, it is hard to get comments...unless your SB has 5 stars :P

[tulokyn]

I've only looked at the last page, so keep that in mind that I don't know where you've come from.

I looks to me that you have a tendency to blur your edges quite a lot on your drawings of humans, where your comfort shows more clearly in the environment drawings. You are much more likely to have a sharp, hard edge in a forest than you are to clearly delineate the face or hair. Don't forget that people aren't especially furry. We're rather smooth for the most part, so a choppy blurry edge isn't really appropriate for us.

Maybe keep an eye on the shapes of your shadows and light, and try to simplify them down to fewer values, then use those values to make a clearer outline. Simplify, simplify!

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Thanks for the response guys:

Adrianaor: I actually don't draw figures from imagination =P I have only done studies, mostly of anatomy / figure drawing books and occassionally photos. And its definitely difficult to get a response from this site =P

Tulokyn: You have a good point about my figures, but its mostly because I don't finish them - I use the same technique of working blurry, gestural, and very brushy, into more refined forms, which is the same way I work on enviros - I would probably be better off starting with line drawings, I just dislike line drawings, lol. Thanks for your input, I will try pushing more finished edge decisions.