Asaro Head... Asaro Figure...?

[phifehinds]

Hey guys, I was thinking of buying the Asaro head: http://www.planesofthehead.com/

I was just wondering if anybody knows if theres such a thing as the Asaro head but for an entire figure. Like a model or sculpture that shows the planes of the entire body instead of just the head.

[bjoern3000]

Hi.

Do you plan to make a cast drawing of it or to have it as a reference? If you need a reference, a free programm like Makehuman ("http://www.makehuman.org/blog/index.php) would do better.

If you plan to make a cast drawing:
As I can see it, there are only planes and no soft transitions and hair or other datails on it.

I would prefer a bust with soft transitions instead of this Asaro head. It is much more challenging.

I´m sure there are much cheaper busts at ebay than this simple one.

[Kaycy is tanning]

Hey guys, I was thinking of buying the Asaro head: http://www.planesofthehead.com/

I was just wondering if anybody knows if theres such a thing as the Asaro head but for an entire figure. Like a model or sculpture that shows the planes of the entire body instead of just the head.

That head looks slightly messed up.

[Craig D]

As far as I know there is no full body equivalent to the head.

The Asaro head is a usefull training tool developed by some extremely talented people to help with learning to draw/paint heads.

[sfa]

That head looks slightly messed up.

It's asymmetrical for a reason.

Its right side depicts a female/younger/simplified head, while the left side represents a male/older/more complex head.

Hi.

Do you plan to make a cast drawing of it or to have it as a reference? If you need a reference, a free programm like Makehuman ("http://www.makehuman.org/blog/index.php) would do better.

If you plan to make a cast drawing:
As I can see it, there are only planes and no soft transitions and hair or other datails on it.

I would prefer a bust with soft transitions instead of this Asaro head. It is much more challenging.

I´m sure there are much cheaper busts at ebay than this simple one.

I disagree with this. I have an Asaro head and I find it indispensable. As a learning tool, I find it a better resource than a plaster bust BECAUSE it has no soft transitions and is less challenging and is simple. The whole point of the Asaro head is to provide to the student a three-dimensional life-size version of a head in its most planar and generic form, so that once knowledge of the basic structure of the head is obtained, the student can incorporate this information into his art when drawing ALL heads, either from life or from imagination. This is an extension of the maxim, "Start off generic, then move to the specific."

Hey guys, I was thinking of buying the Asaro head: http://www.planesofthehead.com/

I was just wondering if anybody knows if theres such a thing as the Asaro head but for an entire figure. Like a model or sculpture that shows the planes of the entire body instead of just the head.

This is the closest thing I have seen to there being an "Asaro head" for figures - unfortunately, it's only half the body...

http://www.freedomofteach.com/products/artist_busts

[bjoern3000]

I disagree with this. I have an Asaro head and I find it indispensable. As a learning tool, I find it a better resource than a plaster bust BECAUSE it has no soft transitions and is less challenging and is simple. The whole point of the Asaro head is to provide to the student a three-dimensional life-size version of a head in its most planar and generic form, so that once knowledge of the basic structure of the head is obtained, the student can incorporate this information into his art when drawing ALL heads, either from life or from imagination. This is an extension of the maxim, "Start off generic, then move to the specific."

Do you disagree in case of the head as a anatomical reference or as a model for cast drawing? Or in both cases? As for reference I see your point but as a model for cast drawing I would say this:
Progress is connected to the challenges one is facing. What is, when knowledge of these planes is obtained? What then? There is nothing more to learn from it.
Cast drawing consits of learning measuring distances, angles AND correct shading of hard and soft transitions. I would estimate the learning effect of this bust much lower (in case of traditional cast drawing as seen in many threads here) than of a real bust.
Even the Bargue drawings - which are relatively easy - have these transitions.
See what I mean?

So the question for me still is: is it meant to be as a anatomical reference or as a model for a cast drawing?

Greetz

[SoufMeng]

For non 3D reference you should check out Bridgeman and Kevin Chen's class demos.
I also think that if you get a good understanding of light on planes and their simplification thanks to the Asaro head it will make visualizing other parts way easier even without a whole "asaro" body.
I would even argue that it can be good to not have a 3D model for all parts of the body so you have to stretch your brain to imagine them according to the principles learnt with the planar head by yourself.

90% off topic: Id never thought of searching the sketchup 3D warehouse (http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/) for anatomy stuff before yesterday and so found a cool skull (http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=14b7e3635278dc307e1ca4c3dec7ff7a&prevstart=12).

[SoufMeng]

So the question for me still is: is it meant to be as a anatomical reference or as a model for a cast drawing?
Not really either.
The whole point of the Asaro head is to provide to the student a three-dimensional life-size version of a head in its most planar and generic form, so that once knowledge of the basic structure of the head is obtained, the student can incorporate this information into his art when drawing ALL heads, either from life or from imagination.
It doesnt competes against the Bargue method, it completes it.

[phifehinds]

...I would even argue that it can be good to not have a 3D model for all parts of the body so you have to stretch your brain to imagine them according to the principles learnt with the planar head by yourself.....

Thanks! That's a good point.

[DSillustration]

Not quite a body,
but there is a 3 piece torso sculpture for reference by Andrew Cawrse.
The second stage of it looks VERY Asaro.

http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/products/flesh_01.php

http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/img/products/prodphoto/large/flesh_prodphoto_02.jpg