Here is an oldie...and a quickie

[Jason Manley]

here is an oldie...seems old...two years ago or so for troika.

anyhow...figured i would post something.


cheers


j

Im working on a collaborative piece with andrew jones, el coro, and puddnhead which will be used as a promo goodie for our upcoming european workshop. It should be finished and put up in the next day or two. hopefully we will see you all in amsterdam!

here is the link to the workshop info currently.

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=16294

[al-x]

hmm... this one was way to dark, had to adjust the brightness on my screen to se the background. (aargh... all the blacks look grey now). Really not one of your better pieces, but It's two years old so you're forgiven ;)

Looking forward to see that collaboration...

WTF... Did I accidentially rate this or what? Im the only reply and it has a 4 star rating?? Wasn't supposed to rate it... sorry

[Jason Manley]

Originally posted by al-x
hmm... this one was way to dark, had to adjust the brightness on my screen to se the background. (aargh... all the blacks look grey now). Really not one of your better pieces, but It's two years old so you're forgiven ;)

Looking forward to see that collaboration...

WTF... Did I accidentially rate this or what? Im the only reply and it has a 4 star rating?? Wasn't supposed to rate it... sorry


youre not supposed to see the background. lol

just a hint of the pattern/marks and that is it.

[al-x]

Yeah I noticed that when brightening the screen. But I didn't even see any hints.

It might be my screen thats getting a bit old. It's eight years old so I should probably get a new one. But then I'd want a flat (and pretty large) one, and they´re too expensive for a poor art student. The workshop will totally kill my economy.

[Jason Manley]

well you need a new monitor son!

the flat screens have poor color quality compared to the tube monitors.

ctx makes a cheap monitor... 200 bucks at sams club... wonderful sharpness and color. color wise its probably the best monitor ive used in the workplace. el cheapo is good sometimes.


j

[Davey Jones]

-I really like the guy's jacket medals. Makes me wonder what his story is. Good piece! Looking forward to that collaboration you're cooking up. By the way, are you still employed with Troika?

[Jason Manley]

nope...i own my own company now www.massiveblack.com

we are a contract/freelance art house for the entertainment industry.

good ole nivbed is in my old chair at troika. last i spoke with any of them he was doing great stuff.

im looking forward to their game though. i havent played a good rpg in a few years.

j

[Skank]

i like the colors used
and ya, the bg was hard to see on my crappy monitor here at werk, but i like it

just as a side note...the colors youve used in this i find are the easiest for me to work in, is there a reason for this? are dodger blues and steel blues (not exactly the colors youve used here, but close enough for my question) just the easiest colors towork with or what..lol

[Jason Manley]

well there isnt too much color at all...a slight temperature seperation between the lights on the face and the darks...notice the lights should seem more icey blue violet vs the slightly warmer greener middle darks.....but other than that it is nothing more than a monochromatic image...nearly black and white.

monochrome is always easy color....temperature seperation between light and dark is a bit more challenging but not like full color....


j

[Skank]

i need to learn color theory
its very alien to me, theres so much information to take in about how color works

:bash:

thanks for the reply =)

[foster]

cool, he is emerging from the night. it is no hidden fact that i am a big fan of ambiguity. it just needs to be well done like jason has painted here.

so are you going to amsterdam jason? be good!

jon

[Jason Manley]

thnx jon

yeah..we are looking at going to amsterdam in the first week of march...with dates for the workshop around the 11 12 13 14 of march. we should have final dates soon. im so excited. we are speaking with an art school there about renting their facilities and would have access to their easels and figure studios. we will definitely be good...well at least most the time.

btw jon...are u in italy yet? you still going?


j

[Loga4]

Nice jop,Jason!

[Dan Milligan]

Hey J,

Love it. Your work always has that ...ummm... that Jason Manley look. And thats good!

Peace
Dan

[Jason Manley]

thanks dan... lol

[winjer]

you should animate the eyes. have the little pupils move like 1 pixel back and forth every few seconds. totally creepy

[Speed3D]

Hi Jason

Just wondering.....was the elongated toros/arms and small looking head a design decision or problems with the proportions? Also, what little we can actually see of him seems a bit washed out....the face not quite as bad as the hands/clothing.

I think the idea is cool, but not quite as well executed as I've seen elsewhere.

[mephisto]

Hey Jason, could you recommend a good book on color theory? Or maybe write one? (:

[Jason Manley]

Originally posted by Speed3D
Hi Jason

Just wondering.....was the elongated toros/arms and small looking head a design decision or problems with the proportions? Also, what little we can actually see of him seems a bit washed out....the face not quite as bad as the hands/clothing.

I think the idea is cool, but not quite as well executed as I've seen elsewhere.


yes it was on purpose. and there is probably about 90 minutes worth of painting time here. it was painted to simply give an impression of the character to see if we wanted to go that direction.

the description was something to the effect of him being from another era...yet still wearing those clothes in todays times...after seeing the concept it was decided to distort him even more than what you see here.

too quick to judge....personally i like the look of quick paintings...i dont care if there are fingernails painted on them or if they are washy or not...as long as the impression is there then it will work for the purposes of communication...which is the main point of conceptual art.


jason

[Jason Manley]

Originally posted by mephisto
Hey Jason, could you recommend a good book on color theory? Or maybe write one? (:


the best info on color theory was on sijun...the color theory thread we all made years ago. however, i do not know how to locate it since they switched systems. does anyone still have that color theory link?


jason

[Dan.v.D.]

this? (http://forums.sijun.com/viewtopic.php?t=15476)

[Jason Manley]

wonderful wonderful

thanks

the pics are now gone from that...but there is enough info in there about color theory to keep us all busy.

j

[God-Of-Zilla]

Hey Jason I love this piece. :)

I notice that the little blue purple yellow dot in the bottom right makes the whole balance thing working very well.

Keep it up
Matthew

[Dan.v.D.]

not bad either ;] (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=25193#post25193)

[Dan.v.D.]

Originally posted by Matthew-S

I notice that the little blue purple yellow dot in the bottom right makes the whole balance thing working very well.


hehe it ain´t yellow but seems to be. that´s one facet of the wonders of color theory

[mephisto]

Hey Jason, on the old sijun thread you talk about same value color variation: blueish yellows, pinkish yellows, etc. To implement that in photoshop, or painter for that matter, would you simply add subtle blue or pink on top of your yellow? or do you mess with the rgb and hsb sliders?

Thank you guys by the, way. I've already learned a ton and I'm not even half way through the sijun thread yet.

[Jason Manley]

thanks everyone

i almost never use sliders...what happens is that i will second guess myself and try out the sliders to see but i end up being more accurate if i just paint it in myself.

i just put colors down...sometimes i will knock washes into areas that need splashes of color..using the watercolor tool...or the airbrush on a multiply layer....


the sliders dont control it well enough to make it how you want it. its just better to know what and why you are doing it.


jason

[traddcliff]

yer almost as good as me.

http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/t/o/tommyraddcliff/tommyraddcliff.html

;)

[Jason Manley]

tommy you are my hero

[DanSTC]

Count Von Strahd?

[negativespace]

Great work Jason!
Here's another interesting thread on color also that just started up:
http://forums.sijun.com/viewtopic.php?t=35796