View Full Version : Sketchbooks: Moleskine, Cachet, grey paper etc.
August 21st, 2009, 03:47 PM
I'm looking for a sketchbook for pencil, marker and ink sketching. Something that has mid grey/brownish paper color with paper quality good for sketching, not too big tooth nor too small and not extremely expensive.
If possible wire bound but others will do as well.
I've tried doing some research and something towards that direction I've found the Moleskine ones which are extremely expensive unfortunately.
Also I found this Chacher Classic Ecru ones but haven't seen them in nature so it's hard to tell about the paper.
And then I found some Aquabee Bogus rough sketch but the tooth on this is too heavy: http://www.dickblick.com/products/aquabee-bogus-sketch-pad/
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
August 21st, 2009, 06:19 PM
Moleskine's are super smooth so I don't think they quite fit your purposes anyway.
Have you considered making your own sketchbook (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=161055), or buying the correct paper and having an office store bind it for you? (Call ahead to find out the estimated price, and required paper size)
August 21st, 2009, 06:42 PM
Moleskines and Ecru colored paper are both merely cream colored. They're not dark enough to really count as a tint, you can't go much lighter with white mediums on it. They look nice under an ink drawing though. I've looked and looked for a toned, smooth surface sketchbook and they don't really exist anywhere I can find - I did find some intended for pastels, but they're textured.
Cheapest way is to make one yourself - you can just get a binder and a 3-hole punch and punch holes in the type of paper you want to use. Otherwise you could have one bound at a print shop or have one custom made.
August 22nd, 2009, 01:28 AM
Hi guys, thanks for the tips. I've actually considered making my own but haven't found good paper yet. I've looked into the Canson Mi Teintes 160gsm but it feels too rough for my porpose and that's the closest I've gotten.
Any suggestions for papers?
August 22nd, 2009, 02:33 PM
Everything I've been able to find is too rough. I'm planning to just hand tint some sketchbook pages with watered-down acrylics.
August 24th, 2009, 12:04 PM
Anyone else care to pitch in?
August 24th, 2009, 02:56 PM
I know it might sound mad, but has anyone ironed conte pastel paper?
B u r l
August 24th, 2009, 06:17 PM
here (http://www.jacksonsart.co.uk/wildcardsearch.php?id=notsowild&searchterm=cheese&searchterm1=all&mixedsearch=pastel_paper_and_card_items_99_papers&message=all_one_manu&manu=&ignore_big_warning=ignore&custorstaff=customer&forced_search=&all_string=&this_medium=Papers&toetag=&searchdetermine=anyorder) has a nice selection of paper. but they only come in sheets so you'd have to make your own sketchbook from them.
August 25th, 2009, 01:13 AM
I've seen these at Barnes and Noble:
Here's a link. (http://gifts.barnesandnoble.com/Home-gift/Sketch-Book-Kraft/e/9781561524143/?itm=1)
The paper is brown and sometimes has little specks in it since it's recycled. I've only seen the smaller one but I'm sure you can order the large size online somewhere.
This one looks similar only larger and not wirebound:
Click for the link. (http://www.utrechtart.com/dsp_view_product.cfm?item=42265)
Hope that helps a bit. It's the only brown paper I've seen without having to make a custom one, and I've never seen a grey one, these are brown. Moleskines are more on the yellow side.
August 25th, 2009, 05:58 AM
I vote tinting watercolor paper with black acrylic washes. They won't be uniform if you apply it with a sponge or towel (which can be really cool if you're okay with that) or you could get a small tub, fill it with your diluted black acrylic, and put your papers in to soak before drying on an old towel (and if you want to get them flat again, put the paper between two towels and 2 boards and let it dry that way). By doing this all yourself, you can choose the exact texture of your paper beforehand and through trial and error find the exact tone that you want as well. Just make sure you use watercolor paper (or another thick durable paper) that will stand up to the dying process.
April 1st, 2011, 05:58 PM
Please let Daler -Rowney know about your requests for these sketchbooks to be reintroduced to the market. I have one from the 90's I bought at a local artstore. I have about half of it full. I use it for a lot of gesture drawings with charcoal and graphite. It's ideal for people that would like to add high lights and dislike to start with a white surface. Now-a-days with recycling I am sure they can find a better way of doing it. I have seen the brown paper ones they produce.
Here is the link to the forum I started about making this sketchbook again. Everyone should request it.
Look for the subject: Cachet "Grey Paper" sketchbook needs to be reintroduced by LuisDiazArt
April 1st, 2011, 06:05 PM
I own this. It's quite nice. Haven't found a reason to make full use of it yet.
April 1st, 2011, 06:43 PM
I have a brown one too from many years ago too, but grey is really nice.
April 19th, 2011, 02:08 PM
Cachet made a great grey toned sketchbook (5x7, looking for a bigger one), but I can't seem to find it online anywhere. I really liked it and am trying to find another one.
I did save the sticker on it, it reads:
Original Classic - Sketchbook
Livre de Dessin - Skizzenbuch - Libro de Dibujo
Cachet by Daler-Rowney
Grey made with Canford Paper England
May 12th, 2011, 02:05 AM
Yeah they stopped making it a while ago. Look in my previous thread to write in their forum to try and make those sketchbooks again.
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