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Kamber Parrk
August 21st, 2009, 01:53 PM
Volume 2, Book III starts an Alternating Daily: 20 to 60 minutes of (mostly) life with a watercolor moleskine, fast contour ink drawing in Uniball 207 AND 30 to 60 minutes on newsprint with HB charcoal pencil, mostly from quality photo ref.


Volume 2, Book II continues the same deal. But, 20 to 60 minutes for "public life," 30 to 60 for refs and masters so I can focus on more refinement, but still have fun with the public stuff. And, my cartoon stuff will fill in for the Daily on days it takes up all my art time.

Volume 2 will be primarily figure studies continuing with HB Generals charcoal pencil and rough newsprint done inside of an hour.


Book IV is primarily in hard, HB, Generals charcoal pencil. Time limit is longer-- 40 minutes to no more than an hour. Rotation: 2 sheets of heads; 2 sheets of figures; 1 sheet of hands; and 1 sheet of composition.

Book III (at page 7) is primarily in black Prismacolor 935 pencil. Ballpoint will still figure from time to time. Same Canson SB, but my time limit will be 15 to 30 minutes. (Up from the 10 to 20 of the first two books).

Book II (at page 4) is in black Bic Round Stick ballpoint and black HB Conte crayon on an 8.5 X 11 inch Canson hardbound sketchbook. Book I was in Bic Round Stic on a dime-store "college ruled" 8 X 10.5 inch notebook

The Goal? 365 sketches by the anniversary of the date of inception! Every 100 images will equal a new "Book."

All criticism respected and eventually responded to!

Viral Marketer
August 21st, 2009, 02:17 PM
As to resizing - You could always preview the image in windows explorer and screencap/edit in paint if you're totally without any image-altering software. Imageshack.us will resize your image for you, so you could just do that and save to your pc before uploading to CA.

I'd suggest using a material with varied width of line too, like a pencil. Keep at it and keep drawing from life!

Kamber Parrk
August 21st, 2009, 11:01 PM
Viral Marketer,

Figured that I could use the Micosoft "picture manager" to do the job.

Sticking with pen for this forum, using other mediums in other fora!

Will see if I can go back and edit the original post. . .

Kamber Parrk
August 22nd, 2009, 08:37 PM
bathroom

adammelo
August 22nd, 2009, 09:43 PM
Great to see some new faces, keep working on your sketches, check out loomis for studying incase your interested!


Sketch back if you'd like...

Kamber Parrk
August 24th, 2009, 01:31 AM
Thanks for dropping in adammelo!

What's a loomis? (heh! just kidding. . .)

Kamber Parrk
August 24th, 2009, 05:44 PM
Earth scooper.

Kamber Parrk
August 25th, 2009, 08:45 PM
Ornamental Bridge.

Dr.Blindsy
August 25th, 2009, 09:50 PM
Hey!

Nice starts. Your perspective and composition ain't bad for sure. If you want to check out some Loomis stuff for studies n' such, here (http://fineart.sk/index.php?cat=1) is a great site, with scans of Loomis's book. If you're anything like me, y'can't just go out n' buy the books.

:D either way, keep posting and keep drawing!

Kamber Parrk
August 26th, 2009, 07:55 PM
Hey Doc,

Thank ye for the input!

I have been trying to apply some of my perspective book learnin' to these daily sketches-- so, your comment is encouraging.

Mallard Foot, below.

Kamber Parrk
August 27th, 2009, 08:51 PM
Recycling Bins Near Dumpster Enclosure.

polydrawer
August 27th, 2009, 08:57 PM
hey there,

it's good to see you do these rougher sketches but be careful with you lines , don't just scribble but try to think about what needs to be more important (make the line of that a bit darker) and what needs to be in the back. also try using lines that go with the form that you are drawing

keep it up :)

Kamber Parrk
August 28th, 2009, 05:50 PM
Hey polydrawer,

Mea culpa! Those last two were pretty dang scratchy.

Trying to spend only 10 to 20 minutes maximum on these-- I get really sloppy as my artificial dead-line approaches.

Gas Station.

Kamber Parrk
August 29th, 2009, 03:32 PM
Portrait of a Mallard.

Kamber Parrk
August 29th, 2009, 11:46 PM
Ecce Homo.

Kamber Parrk
August 31st, 2009, 05:14 PM
Pier rails.

Kamber Parrk
September 1st, 2009, 06:17 PM
Quick perspective sketch of a match box < 10 minutes.

Kamber Parrk
September 2nd, 2009, 08:00 PM
Deadbolt and Door Knob.

Burdie
September 2nd, 2009, 09:34 PM
Nice start! You seem to have a good understanding of perspective :)
Don't worry about time limits for now. Take your time, speed will come later.

I'd also really recommend that you get an actual sketchbook (or at least some blank paper) I seen some artists who get so comfortable drawing on lined paper that when they try to draw on blank paper they have a hard time. The lines are sort of a security blanket for them. Not a good habit to get into.

Kamber Parrk
September 3rd, 2009, 07:40 PM
Hey Burdie, thanks fer the visit!

As a would be cartoonist, I've spent a fair amount of time studying D'Amelio's "Perspective Drawing Handbook." My adventures into "Triangle and T-Square Perspective" have left some residual knowledge that helps me visualize horizons and vanishing points by instinct for free-hand formats that would otherwise require a drawing board the size of a car hood.

The lined pages can help me. But, they're not that much of a crutch. Using crappy materials helps me exorcise the "preciousness" out of my work-- I don't expect much-- just 10 to 20 minutes of quick dirty focus each day!

If I were using "The Notebook of Hemingway," I might just be paralyzed by the desire to do something "pretty" rather than something "effective!" LOL!

Below:

What's Gotten Into Our 40 Year Old Dad? Probably too damn much DairyGold Cream Cheese by the look of him!

Kamber Parrk
September 4th, 2009, 01:09 PM
Preston Blair Primitives (dogs).

Kamber Parrk
September 5th, 2009, 06:45 PM
Library Emergency Exit.

aarondru77
September 5th, 2009, 11:08 PM
hi Kamber i just friended you on here with my profile and i have albums with all my art work FOR YOU to see I'm sorry i do not know yet how to use this site my friend told me about it but all the forum stuff I'm just clueless any help would be much appreciatecd cant figure out the contest or sketchbook i did figure out how to do a gallery and profile but cant figure out the other stuff PLEASE EXPLAIN AND HELP

Kamber Parrk
September 6th, 2009, 11:21 PM
Hey aarondru77,

After you click "Manage Attachments" the Attachment Manager can be used to browse your hard drive to locate, then upload image files directly from your computer. (Thanks, Jason Manley!)

It won't let you post until you fill in several boxes of identidy material.

Before posting, I've been using my Micro Soft photo manager program to size my work to around 800 X 600 pixels.

[I'll try to, eventually(!), friend you back! I've been pretty dense so far on getting around to learning/using the more social aspects of these boards-- think I still have my person settings on "maximum anti-social-psycho-mode."]

Anyway:

TV top statuary.

Kamber Parrk
September 7th, 2009, 05:38 PM
Splittin' da baby. (17 minute sketch after Raphael).

Kamber Parrk
September 8th, 2009, 05:57 PM
Truck.

Kamber Parrk
September 9th, 2009, 04:38 PM
Kitchen sink.

MrA
September 9th, 2009, 08:19 PM
Haha! I love how you draw everything and anything you see... I think it's wonderful. As a growing artist myself, I am gonna try this out. Are you using Pen or Pencil?

Kamber Parrk
September 10th, 2009, 02:58 PM
Hey Mr. A!

Welcome aboard.

I'm using a medium Bic Roundstic ball point.

A lot of what I'm doing here is fast preliminary studies of things that might make interesting paintings or can be incorporated into the "environments" of my cartooning-- it's more art-like "note taking" than anything-- give it a try--it's fun to work free, quick and loose!

(And that's a good excuse for the horrible images in this post! LOL!)

8 minutes of shoes after Hamm.

Kamber Parrk
September 11th, 2009, 06:37 PM
Crucifixion, St. Peter (20 min. after Caravaggio).

Kamber Parrk
September 12th, 2009, 11:22 PM
Road at night.

Kamber Parrk
September 13th, 2009, 09:16 PM
Action figure with ink bottle.

Kamber Parrk
September 14th, 2009, 08:23 PM
Take yer stinkin' paws off me-- you damn dirty ape! (15 min. "Planet Of the Apes").

Kamber Parrk
September 15th, 2009, 08:49 PM
Ink bottle, cow and action figure.

Kamber Parrk
September 16th, 2009, 10:16 PM
Douglas Fir beyond roof.

Kamber Parrk
September 17th, 2009, 08:39 PM
Computer users.

Kamber Parrk
September 19th, 2009, 01:37 AM
Gas pump awning, night.

Kamber Parrk
September 20th, 2009, 12:24 AM
Mallard's butt.

Kamber Parrk
September 20th, 2009, 05:31 PM
Mallard skull.

Kamber Parrk
September 22nd, 2009, 12:52 AM
Offering.

Kamber Parrk
September 23rd, 2009, 01:46 AM
Captain's chair.

Kamber Parrk
September 24th, 2009, 06:08 PM
Life study, seated man, drawn in hard primitives.

Kamber Parrk
September 25th, 2009, 10:01 PM
Desk.

Kamber Parrk
September 27th, 2009, 01:40 AM
Douglas Fir top.

Kamber Parrk
September 28th, 2009, 06:49 PM
Woman at workstation.

Kamber Parrk
September 30th, 2009, 12:50 AM
Poser cow-maniacs, 6 minutes a piece.

Kamber Parrk
October 1st, 2009, 03:43 AM
Savin' Lois. (Took an extra 10 minutes, less half-assed rendering. . .)

Kamber Parrk
October 3rd, 2009, 02:17 AM
Recliner.

Aila
October 3rd, 2009, 04:52 AM
Nice studies so far! I would also suggest switching to blank paper, even though you say nice paper would make you want to draw something more "pretty".. I'm sure there are crappy blank paper pads out there.. you could always try printer paper, that's a devil to draw on. Or letter paper! XD
Apart from that, keep up the practice, maybe go for more detail in some places! :D

Kamber Parrk
October 3rd, 2009, 07:30 PM
Hi there Aila!

Nope! Gonna stick with the lined notebook and torture all my viewers! (At least until this notebook runs out. . .)

Detail's tough with the quick rough sketch mode. For me, it takes about a half-hour to produce a reasonably good "figure" without any real background: about 15 minutes of drawing and restating/correcting, then about 15 minutes of rendering and tweaking values. (Given an hour and a half of focus, I can start to produce things that start to take on a professional gloss).

Here, I'm trying to set multiple figures into some sort of composition (usually) and rough in some sort of indication of an "environment" within about 20 minutes-- detail kinda falls by the wayside!

Part of my evil plan: by overloading my brain with these 10 to 20 minute dailys, I hope to get faster in "life drawing," where, for my source, the poses generally only last 20 or 25 minutes at the longest.

Below: Starbucks people, Preston Blair dogs, and the people who replaced the other Starbucks people.

Kamber Parrk
October 5th, 2009, 07:10 PM
Leg and torso from Hale's Master Class In Figure Drawing. Probably 15 to 20 min. each.

Kamber Parrk
October 7th, 2009, 07:16 PM
Conversation.

Kamber Parrk
October 8th, 2009, 04:09 AM
Mom squirrel prepares to save baby. (Reffed from Wasker's "Cheer Me Up Thread" post).

Kamber Parrk
October 11th, 2009, 01:27 AM
Double leg takedown with tiny action figures.

Aila
October 12th, 2009, 06:41 AM
Hi there Aila!

Nope! Gonna stick with the lined notebook and torture all my viewers! (At least until this notebook runs out. . .)

Detail's tough with the quick rough sketch mode. For me, it takes about a half-hour to produce a reasonably good "figure" without any real background: about 15 minutes of drawing and restating/correcting, then about 15 minutes of rendering and tweaking values. (Given an hour and a half of focus, I can start to produce things that start to take on a professional gloss).

Here, I'm trying to set multiple figures into some sort of composition (usually) and rough in some sort of indication of an "environment" within about 20 minutes-- detail kinda falls by the wayside!

Part of my evil plan: by overloading my brain with these 10 to 20 minute dailys, I hope to get faster in "life drawing," where, for my source, the poses generally only last 20 or 25 minutes at the longest.


Ah, I see :)
Well I'll be following your SB, it'll be interesting to see how you progress in this way :D The last leg anatomy study looks good!

Kamber Parrk
October 12th, 2009, 07:44 PM
Hey Aila, thanks for stopping back!

Progress, I think, will be slow! To the extent that most of these will be multiple figures anchored in some sort of environment, I'll probably get a little tighter, a little more detailed, over the next couple months of (near) daily sketches.

The leg study harkens back to a lot of the more detailed anatomy stuff I was doing over on Michael Mentler's tsofa.com. It's really the type of thing I'm trying to get away from to force myself to think about "making pictures"-- complete works of art, as opposed to just drawing a figure or item that's floating in a vacuum.

But, anyway, you should check out Mentler's site http://tsofa.com --it's a somewhat different vibe than CA!

Below: Parking lot abutting blueberry field.

Kamber Parrk
October 13th, 2009, 09:00 PM
Library staircase (w/o stairs), 15 min.

Kamber Parrk
October 14th, 2009, 11:02 PM
Readers in Starbucks. (My victims left 8 minutes into this, just spent a few more minutes doing some of the usual "rendering-lite.")

Kamber Parrk
October 16th, 2009, 10:59 PM
Squirrels On a Log. After Beatrix Potter.

Kamber Parrk
October 17th, 2009, 08:06 PM
Mannikins after various figures in Hale's Anatomy Lessons From the Great Masters. (Around 12 min.)

Kamber Parrk
October 20th, 2009, 01:02 AM
Jacket on a chair.

Kamber Parrk
October 21st, 2009, 12:58 AM
Lost cat, NOT very friendly. . .

Kamber Parrk
October 22nd, 2009, 05:49 PM
People in library.

Zorcron
October 22nd, 2009, 07:05 PM
interesting work thanks for posting, i think it would be a healthy thing to study some composition and really work on putting marks on the page exactly where you want them

Gesture and keeping things loose for longer should help immensely

keep it coming :)

:Edit

Your argument for Lined paper is pretty bad

if cost is an issue pick up some newsprint

also charcoal would be a nice change from the pen try to draw with your whole arm not just your wrist

Kamber Parrk
October 23rd, 2009, 11:31 PM
Hey Zorcron, thanks for stoppin' by!

Composition is pretty much catch as catch can! (Lucky if I can half apply the "rule of thirds.")

That and intentional marks are greatly affected by subjects that just get up and leave! LOL!

Re gesture: with ballpoint, there's frequently a compromise/choice between looseness and accuracy due to the inability to erase.

My lined paper: everybody pretty much seems to hate it! This book, however, may well evlove into an ink wash or watercolor book (on better paper) over time.

[A lot of the rendering acutally is from the shoulder/elbow with a "match strike" type of motion.]

Below: Cat lounging by an Igloo Cooler.

orochigenocide
October 24th, 2009, 12:21 AM
Nice studies you've got there.

Although you want to keep the amount of time you delegate to each sketches short, I think it would benefit you more if you did in-depth studies. For example, most of your form appear flat even though you used value to try to develop them. The reasons for this are 1) your cross-hatching doesn't follow the curvature of certain objects (the doorknobs, the mallard, the jacket, etc.) 2) they don't take into the account of all the sections of values an object would have: highlight, light, shadow, core shadow, reflected light, and cast shadow and 3.) there needs be a contrast between the focal subject and its environment (for example, your sketch of the road).

As for composition, it would be handy to have a viewfinder on ya. That way, you can isolate what exactly you want to draw. A good method to use when making marks to place your composition is the triangulation method: a process where you place three marks on your paper where the outer edges of the subject matter would be closest to the edge of the paper, thus forming a triangle.

If you want to do quick sketches, gesture drawings done with charcoal on newsprint paper would be a nice start. With gesture, you can capture the basic shape, movement, and form of objects and people, and the charcoal allows you to vary your width. Plus, you can use the side to create darker marks to envelop the form and mass of whatever you're drawing.

Kamber Parrk
October 24th, 2009, 11:39 PM
Hey orochigenocide!

Thank ye for the drop by!

I actually have SEVERAL sketchbooks that I am working on!

That probably addresses your call for more detailed studies and such!

This thread is more "from the hip." My rendering ends up being greatly limited by my only spending 10 minutes (or less) per post on rendering. Plus, my hatching approximates the type of "build up" I do in graphite before I rub the line work-- for me, I've always had better results with rubbing in dry media. Thus, flatness is a bit of a curse re the limits I've set here for myself.

Re composition: I'm studying it, honest! Currently trying to digest parts of Jack Hamm's Drawing Scenery: landscapes and seascapes. (Will experiment with what you've indicated.) Otherwise, again, my artificial time limit for this SB greatly limits cogitation and tweaking!

Anyway, to all who post, I am seriously reflecting upon your insights!

Good evening!

Below: Yet another Starbucks environment.

Kamber Parrk
October 25th, 2009, 09:02 PM
Busted! My subject victim became aware of my observation. She was already overly "active," (looking up and down from her laptop-- probably restless, getting ready to leave, as she did).

I just played all innocent and, without missing a beat, directed my gaze to various things around the establishment as if deep in thought.

Below: 7 minutes, not much to show. . .

Kamber Parrk
October 26th, 2009, 11:37 PM
Fighting nudes (after Raphael).

Kamber Parrk
October 27th, 2009, 10:33 PM
This is a Michaelangelo torso from Speed's The Practice & Science Of Drawing, cropped from some notes I was taking while reading this book, again.

Aila
October 28th, 2009, 04:13 AM
Good to see you're keeping up with the studies! I like the Raphael one in the post before last. I checked out that website you linked to on page 2, it looks intriguing.. is registration free?

Kamber Parrk
October 28th, 2009, 09:42 PM
Hey Aila,

In honor of your being one of my few return viewers, I give you:

Uncle Tom's Dragon!

This was done awhile ago, after my posting in your thread. Seeing all your dragons, I began to think-- wonder If I can draw a dragon? So, the first (even cruder sketch) began on a cardboard box fragment that already had some sketches based on the cover art of the novel I'm still reading-- Uncle Tom's Cabin.

So, an unholy synthesis began to develop on several sheets of newsprint with HB pencil and ballpoint. . .

Kamber Parrk
October 29th, 2009, 10:53 PM
Being that I crapped out and posted OLD stuff yesterday, two images for today:

Starbucks readers and Venus and Cupid (after Velazquez).

Kamber Parrk
October 30th, 2009, 09:06 PM
Yet another person with a laptop and another person who took off. And, "The Rabbits' Christmas Party" after Beatrix Potter.

Kamber Parrk
November 1st, 2009, 08:57 PM
Just chairs.

Kamber Parrk
November 3rd, 2009, 10:13 PM
The Hanged Baroncelli, after Leonardo.

Aila
November 4th, 2009, 02:56 AM
Haha aww that dragon looks cute. :D I am honoured :hatsoff:

The Venus and Cupid, and the Beatrix Potter sketches show more confident linework! Keep on sketching :D

Kamber Parrk
November 4th, 2009, 10:27 PM
Hey Aila,

Glad you liked the dragon! Originally I was working for "fierce" but all the Preston Blair I've being studying is inadvertently putting me in cute funny animal mode.

Rabbits are probably better line quality 'cause I periodically study Potter like people study Bridgman (and like I'm starting to study Preston Blair).

Was just kinda in the zone with Venus, Cupid's face got whacked with the ugly stick though!

Below: Figure after Raphael.

Kamber Parrk
November 6th, 2009, 01:11 AM
Starbucks chair-- from memory, on printer paper, time about 10 minutes.

Kamber Parrk
November 6th, 2009, 07:21 PM
Going to start putting a page of my Preston Blair studies in here. Maybe once a week or so. (Don't worry, the lined notebook stuff will still continue!)

Dman
November 6th, 2009, 09:43 PM
Hey Kamber, thanks for stopping by my sketchbook! You are doing a great job getting that drawing mileage in. Seems to me that the biggest hurdle out of all the things we have to do in most cases as artists, is just doing it, and keeping on keeping on. Well that's the case for me at least! Definitely post the preston blair stuff, that's good to see! I've done many pages of studies from him as well, it's a nice break from the more realistic figure studies, and I think that overall it will be a nice balance skill wise. Keep it up!

Kamber Parrk
November 8th, 2009, 01:21 AM
Hey Dman, good to see you!

Re mileage: I've purposely kept the time commitment and quality of this book low to keep the drudge-work threshhold low. But, quick sketching is a skill worth development, particularly for information gathering or quick recon for more serious works.

I'm hoping that Blair complements my figurative stuff and vice-versa!

Below: Stove and counter.

Kamber Parrk
November 9th, 2009, 02:00 AM
Reading guy with ax.

Kamber Parrk
November 9th, 2009, 10:48 PM
Reductive torso studies (from Posemaniacs). Windsor & Newton medium vine on Canson newsprint, time(?) just messing around for 10 or 15 minutes.

Kamber Parrk
November 11th, 2009, 12:17 AM
Bathroom sink and mirror.

Kamber Parrk
November 11th, 2009, 07:47 PM
Two Vanderpoel torsos, about 16 minutes.

Madonna del Granduca after Raphael, about 15 minutes.

Kamber Parrk
November 14th, 2009, 01:44 AM
Bottle.

Kamber Parrk
November 15th, 2009, 12:30 AM
Three sketches after Michelangelo's studies for the Sistine Chapel. About 5-6 minutes each.

Special Note: literally after Michelangelo! Directly from drawings on display in the Seattle Art Museum-- standing inches and hundreds of years away from greatness. . .

Kamber Parrk
November 16th, 2009, 07:46 PM
Preston Blair Dogs.

Kamber Parrk
November 17th, 2009, 12:50 AM
Plastic shopping bag on door knob.

Kamber Parrk
November 17th, 2009, 11:43 PM
Uncle Tom's Dragon: character design based on a silly juxtaposition of words continues-- HB graphite inked with 0.45 Pigma.

Kamber Parrk
November 18th, 2009, 11:44 PM
TV and a basket of towels.

Kamber Parrk
November 20th, 2009, 02:20 AM
Person on couch with cat.

Kamber Parrk
November 20th, 2009, 07:24 PM
Cow study: reffed from plastic cow, guided by An Atlas Of Animal Anatomy For Artists, using (loosely) a Preston Blair stick skeleton.

Kamber Parrk
November 21st, 2009, 10:58 PM
Moo!!

Kamber Parrk
November 23rd, 2009, 11:02 PM
After 19th Century "Punch" cartoon re Afghanistan.

Kamber Parrk
November 25th, 2009, 12:27 AM
Bear redux.

Redrew the head (mostly) of yesterday's bear to test out some "B" softness black Conte crayon on Strathmore 400.

Experimenting with various tools that will provided greater, quicker "mass drawing" capacity than my Bic Round Stic. (I'll probably keep the BRS for "line drawing" though.)

Plan: after I get 100 images on the crappy lined notebook stuff I'll transition over to a nice scanable sized Canson hardbound book, probably using BRS and Conte. [Probably be easier to handle more painterly subjects like "Road At Night" with such tools!]

Flanagan
November 25th, 2009, 02:08 AM
You've developed a GREAT HABIT of drawing everything and anything around you. This is something that many people lack including myself because of the subject matter they are drawing isn't "cool". I see a few kinks that you could work on but as an improving artist myself I've discovered that whatever problems come my way I create a solution, my own solution. So just keep drawing and drawing and drawing...you know, pretend you have an energizer battery lodged in your back. ;)

Kamber Parrk
November 25th, 2009, 07:35 PM
Hey Flanagan-- thanks fer the drop by!

Posting daily is not too hard. Putting my work before the masses restrains me from producing total crap. But, I try to be realistic in generating "sketches" as opposed to "masterpieces." I do a fair amount of gesture-doodly crap, e.g. Posemaniacs studies on chopped up shopping bags, and I do abstract studies/experiments to test materials and ideas, but I don't post this stuff! (Some do, I don't. . .)

Anyway.

Foreign Legion paratroopers taking cover in a rice paddy, Vietnam, 1954. (From book photo).

cdejong
November 25th, 2009, 07:57 PM
Hey Kamber, keep on drawing from life, it's good for you! Try studying some anatomy too, it can only help. I recommend Bridgman or Loomis, look up saveloomis.org to download the loomis books and get studying ;).

Keep up the good work.

Kamber Parrk
November 25th, 2009, 11:33 PM
Hey cdejong!

Yup! Bridgman's pure gold. I've kinda come off a (previously) long study of anatomy, so this thread is more "environmental," for the most part.

Of all things, I'm probably going to start folding more Vanderpoel studies into this SB-- he's really good for "planes."

Anyway.

Rare 2nd daily post: experiment with a figure from life using ballpoint and HB Conte crayon. Can't say this is the "end all, do all" for the SB, I might just revert to pure graphite in this Canson SB-- perhaps graphite sticks in addition to HB pencil. [But, worry not (!), the crappy lined notebook will continue for awhile longer. . .]

Kharnaghe
November 25th, 2009, 11:42 PM
Hey Kamber! I really like your drawing of the cow head; I also love your environmental drawings, but, as a piece of advice, when drawing your environments, try using vanishing points and rulers. Even if you don't want to use rulers, just quickly sketch lines to help you put your drawing in proper perspective. Also, when drawing things, try to draw what you see, not what you think you see. Like, as things move futher away, they become less discernible.

Flanagan
November 27th, 2009, 12:50 PM
Kaaaamber! Nice update! I really like the 'Nam sketch (war interests me...i dunno why...), but the guy sitting down is very more complete. Try and do this with all your sketches, even if it's a couple hours later. Also, since your into evironmentals right now, maybe study some plant life, animals, or some master perspective drawings to copy from. It may be an interesting turn for your art. Well, I'll catch your SB later. Until then...DRAAAW! ;)

Kamber Parrk
November 28th, 2009, 12:38 AM
darksoulzero-- welcome by!

Generally, the stuff I draw in "2-point" would have VPs off the page. What I usually do is rough in a light, partial Horizon Line, visualize the spot off the page where the vanishing line and the HL would intersect and sort of "shoot" for it like you'd shoot/hit a golf ball. (And, I keep an eye on the subject to see if its shaping up like a TV or whatever).

Atmospheric perspective? Probably lost due to my heavy-handedness!

Flanagan-- 2nd repeat visitor-- I feel so special now :drinkup:

The French experience in Vietnam has always fascinated me. Sitting guy just looks more complete-- everything's better with more rendering! (Uh, sometimes. . .) Environments from the Masters? That's the plan! More extended studies? That's for my "Study Book." One of the many "books" I have going. . .

Anyway. . .

Another escaping subject-- only got 4 or 5 minutes of blocking in-- "rendering" here was really just an excuse to lay down/experiment with more HB Conte. [Was making "value charts" earlier-- little boxes-- white through grey to black-- think the HB Conte will work for the new SB direction-- line quality will be a little rougher. But, per Jack Hamm, that's probably a good thing when handling landscape/foliage stuff.]

Kamber Parrk
November 29th, 2009, 12:04 AM
Grocery store soup bar.

bagshotrow
November 29th, 2009, 01:30 AM
A ballpoint pen can actually go a long way. If you take it slow, you can get very smooth brushlike gradients reminiscent of tattoo art.

But you might want to start experimenting with ways to create more convincing space in these landscapes, and that means you'll want to try laying in more tones and fewer lines. Now, I know quality of materials is not the most important thing... but ballpoint ben is not an easy way to learn about tones, and that waxy notebook paper is gonna tend to reject anything else.

I think the best thing you can do right now is get yourself a pad of toned paper. It usually comes in a pad full of all sorts of grays and browns. You've already got some dark conte crayons, so get yourself a white one. Working from a midtone allows you to consider highlights and shadows separately and encourages you to use a full range of tones. It helped me a lot, and it's actually really fun. It'll also encourage you to use less line where it's not necessary.

Keep it up, bro

Kamber Parrk
November 29th, 2009, 11:40 PM
bagshotrow-- welcome by!

Agreed! Ballpoint is an awful "mass drawing" tool unless you're working fairly small and slow. But, you've pretty much nailed the direction I'm heading-- use Conte to lay in more tone quicker. Who knows, I might just do some stuff all with the long side of the Conte from time to time.

I'm told the white Conte or white chalk on toned paper is more of an experts trick. [But, maybe for "Book III."]

Below:

Four figures.

Kamber Parrk
December 1st, 2009, 01:45 AM
Another cow.

Aila
December 1st, 2009, 05:20 AM
I like how you're shading more and more, like on that re-draw of the bear's head a few posts back.
To quickly shade large areas, I use a fat (or "jumbo") HB pencil I got recently and use the side of the lead, adding on more layers/pressure for darker places. I've been doing a lot of speed drawing the last month, so I say that helps immensely!

Also that last cow is looking great, I'd say that's quite a tough angle!

Keep them coming!

Flanagan
December 1st, 2009, 09:52 AM
You're going to start shading, that's great! Those four people are very appealing to my eye. Although the proportion and anatomy on some of the figures can use some fixin', the perspective is really great. They actually look like they've volume, and I really dig how you drew their faces. I'm liking the cow. Once again, you nailed the perspective, and like Aila said, it is a tough angle to draw from so give yourself props for that. You're doing good and keeping up a good habit. Now go shade something ;) PEACE.

Kamber Parrk
December 1st, 2009, 08:12 PM
Hey Aila-- Welcome Back!:drinkup::drinkup:

Book II with more shadin' starts after this post. And, you're gonna see that cow on a regular basis-- I intend to memorize it!

Flanagan-- Hey Again!:drinkup::drinkup:

The "Four Figures" sketch is the type of "information gathering" that will (eventually) turn into watercolors. Cheat Factor on the cow: the other back leg was visible underneath that blobby cow sternum structure-- left it out 'cause I didn't think it would "read right."

Below: Preston Blair "stick and dot" skeletons applied to two figures from Peck's "Atlas"; experiment with "ball-oid" and plane head based on a Peck 3/4 head; same applied to Peck's floating skulls page; and a partial cow skeleton.

Kharnaghe
December 2nd, 2009, 11:58 PM
Hey kamber, Shadow stalker gave me some good advice on line quality. You should check around about it. It'll really improve your drawings.

Kamber Parrk
December 3rd, 2009, 12:17 AM
Have to check that out darksoulzero!

The Start of Book II!

For this book: 8.5 X 11 inch Canson hardbound; Bic Roundstic; and black HB Conte. (Still sticking to 10 to 20 minute time limit for the daily: sketch 5 or 10 minutes, then render 5 or 10 minutes).

Below: lion from An Atlas Of Animal Anatomy For Artists by Ellenberger et al.

element1988
December 3rd, 2009, 12:18 AM
cool stuff, i really like the one with the bridge and cows are cool XD keep it up :)

bagshotrow
December 3rd, 2009, 11:39 PM
I'm told the white Conte or white chalk on toned paper is more of an experts trick.

Oh, not at all. I'm pretty sure they had us working from midtones as early as drawing 1. Maybe drawing 2. The difference is, instead of giving us toned paper, they would usually have us fill in the whole paper with charcoal and then lift out highlights with an eraser, which is silliness. I've actually never had a pad of toned paper, but I have a lot of Arches and BFK which I dyed in various midtones for a printmaking project, and working from that is lovely.

Kamber Parrk
December 4th, 2009, 01:39 AM
Hey bagshotrow, welcome back!

Sticking to white Canson for this book for now. But, I have worked "reductive" in vine charcoal-- toning my own paper with charcoal powder as you describe.

Below:

Skeletal hip after Peck.

Spaggen
December 4th, 2009, 03:07 AM
You got some good studies here. Maybe I'm a bit late but I suggest that you should get your hands on some anatomy books like Bridgman's constructive anatomy and Rubins anatomy for artists for example. And try pushing some of the life drawings more until you get better and more realistic results. Good to see some blank papers btw! ;)

Keep it up man!

Aila
December 4th, 2009, 07:42 AM
Hey Aila-- Welcome Back!:drinkup::drinkup:


Teehee yes, I have temporary drop-outs from CA every now and again :P

Woohoo, Book II! Good to see some blank paper! Looking good so far :drinkup:

Kamber Parrk
December 6th, 2009, 01:27 AM
element 1988: thanks for the visit! Ornamental bridge is a constant theme-- have drawn it many times. Cows are just fun to draw!

Spaggen: welcome by! More into Peck and Vanderpoel as of late. It's my intention to put longer more extended studies in my finearts thread. Though, some longer stuff will end up here-- mostly cartoons.

Aila: no problem-- I'll just "necro" your thread and give you the attention of thousands of people across the globe to keep you drawing!

Ahh! The much hated lined notebook. It's been reassigned as an anatomy study and gesture-doodle book-- if something interesting emerges in it from time to time I'll fold in some stuff from time to time. (There's no escape. . .)

Below: Three dark doors.

Kamber Parrk
December 7th, 2009, 11:23 PM
Study of bathroom door molding. (You really don't understand how complex some little things are until you start looking at them, start thinking about them).

The kind of crap that goes into the lined book now-- Posemaniacs via Hogarth.

Real "gesture drawings." This is what they look like people! Not that other stuff people call "gestures. . ." Note the fishing line like scribble.

Kamber Parrk
December 9th, 2009, 12:19 AM
Glass gas fireplace.

Preston Blair things.

Kamber Parrk
December 10th, 2009, 01:54 AM
This isn't one of my proper daily images. But, since my intended victim for the daily engaged me in conversation prompted by his interest in my copy of Peck's Atlas, I'll just crap out and post my Peck studies for today: Pentel mechanical pencil with HB lead.

north pole
December 10th, 2009, 02:03 AM
Kamber Parrk ur structure is nice.. the last front head is need some symetry.. but sections are really good..

Kamber Parrk
December 10th, 2009, 10:55 PM
Hey north pole,

Thanks for visiting! I figured someone would notice the distortion on that-- I was hunched over an ottoman that I was using as a table-- I think the angle of my vision had me drawing an image that skews a bit when looked at straight on-- it's a thing I do too often!

Below:

Parking lot through window.

Kamber Parrk
December 11th, 2009, 08:50 PM
"Trees" after Jack Hamm.

Aila
December 12th, 2009, 11:01 AM
Grinning at the bathroom door frame. You're right.. it's these little things in life you only notice when you really look at them. And that's what I love about artists :D I remember drawing a corner of room once, with a door, and stumbling across the same "problem" of all the lines!

I get some distortion on my drawings too.. I tend to tilt my head, and draw at an angle.. then when I scan, it shows :P

Liking the tree studies last post. The forehead of the top skull looks a little elongated, or at least, longer than it does in the side view. :D But nice work all around!

Kamber Parrk
December 12th, 2009, 02:26 PM
Hi Aila!

Things with lots of parallel lines drive my eyes and brain a bit crazy when I try to draw them. Later, I spent about 2 hours using formal perspective to analyze the "data" that I collected with that sketch-- my cartoon characters are getting better accomadations by the day. I've probably drawn those Peck skulls around 20 times in my life-- think I'd:frustrated: get them perfect!

Magnus, Robot Fighter!

He wears a little red dress, white go-go boots, and he beats the Hell outta robots with his bare hands he does.

Kamber Parrk
December 15th, 2009, 02:39 AM
Still life with Dead Raccoon. (Stretched the time out to about an hour--no sense wasting a perfectly good dead raccoon). I was thinking about decapitating her to preserve a skull. But, being hit by a car really smashed up her face-- not a good specimen. Got lots of photographs of the elegant little paws though.

Kamber Parrk
December 15th, 2009, 10:55 PM
Toy cow studies. (About 8 min. each, HB graphite).

Kamber Parrk
December 17th, 2009, 01:16 AM
Dish drainer.

Aila
December 18th, 2009, 01:49 PM
Oh the poor racoon :( Oh well, at least something came of it :P Nice updates, the real life sketches seem to be improving!

Kamber Parrk
December 18th, 2009, 07:04 PM
Hey Aila!

Improvement in this SB is always an erratic thing!

Below:

The Rabbit's Potting Shed (after Beatrix Potter).

Kamber Parrk
December 18th, 2009, 09:28 PM
Larger than life 'coon paw from dead 'coon photos.

Cow snout from Ellenberger. HB graphite.

Bunny Heads (libary book), HB graphite.

Kamber Parrk
December 20th, 2009, 08:12 PM
Hogarthian cattle.

Kamber Parrk
December 22nd, 2009, 01:58 AM
"Groundhog Day." (Study after Andrew Wyeth).

Kamber Parrk
December 22nd, 2009, 01:24 PM
Neighbor's TV.

Kamber Parrk
December 24th, 2009, 01:11 AM
Squirrel, cow and devil ducky.

Kamber Parrk
December 24th, 2009, 08:10 PM
Still life with dead human. (Small rough inked with 0.5 Pigma enlarged 2X).

Kamber Parrk
January 2nd, 2010, 08:15 PM
Still drawing the dailies! Just couldn't post 'em while I was visiting back East for Christmas.

Below: Island across a sound; head in partial shadow; guest bedroom; shirts and suits in outlet mall (abandoned after a few minutes); man driving mini-van.

Aila
January 7th, 2010, 08:09 AM
:D at the raccoon drawing the dead human. :tihi: Last study of the man driving looking good, maybe start shading in different directions/in the "direction" of the object? To kinda make the different components of the drawing stand out from each other.. first time I looked at the driver, for some reason my mind had delay in "sorting" out the image. Could just be me though. xD
Thanks for commenting on my SB again, hope you had a good New Year's! :drinkup:

Kamber Parrk
January 11th, 2010, 01:11 AM
Hey Aila!

Driver shading mostly from my time limit thing! Values need more time for better working and blending-- so, often I end up with more "accent" than "modeling."

And a good New Year to you!:drinkup:

[Big "make up dump" coming to compensate for the past few days-- but just one for today!]

Below: Desk in a study.

Kamber Parrk
January 12th, 2010, 02:01 AM
Seated figure. (Conte only, another < 5 minute escapee).

Kamber Parrk
January 14th, 2010, 09:41 PM
More catch up stuff! (Bad attitude re scanning as of late!)

Multiple conversation type sketches (some with less or no ball point underdrawing). Plus, ball point of shoes at outlet mall (abandoned after a few minutes) that missed the last batch.

Kamber Parrk
January 16th, 2010, 01:14 AM
Man reading paper, partially blocked by glass gas fireplace.

Kamber Parrk
January 17th, 2010, 07:35 PM
Bull's eye.

(Actually yesterday's post-- don't know what was up with the "Attachment Manager" last night. . . )

Kamber Parrk
January 20th, 2010, 02:25 AM
Conversation. (All conte, about 15 min.)

Monkeydominator
January 20th, 2010, 03:16 AM
Hi Mister Kamber I love you please let me marry your sketches.

Seriously though, nice work! Great that you keep to your schedule and your plan... I especially like the raccoon! Very good sketches, timing yourself is a great way to go. I would like to see some longer studies, though...
I would study anatomy, though, especially the head. The female profile in post 143 is very angular and out of proportion, try comparing it to a photograph to see what I mean.

Keep this up! Great work!

Kamber Parrk
January 21st, 2010, 01:08 AM
Hey Monkeydominator!

Marry my sketches? But, why "buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?!"

Plan's sustainable, though some post holiday sleep disorder has/had me playing catchup. Glad you like the work! There's a little longer stuff in my Fine Arts thread; my old tsofa.com thread; and a new weekly I'm doing at -- dang! Gotta get back on that Fine Arts thread, but been working on my comic stuff and some art history studies.

Unfortunately, I'm well enough schooled in anatomy to have realized how badly I was goobering up that poor woman's face as I was goobering it up! She moved about 6 seconds into my initial ghostly-gesture-doodle that I start out with-- threw me off-- ended up putting a too big facial structure on a normal cranial structure-- ball point and conte are a very unforgiving combo!

Anyway. . .

The enviro for those two previous people; tiny cow contemplates giant pencil sharpener; two figures over a chair back (one bailed out).

freakmod
January 21st, 2010, 02:40 AM
Hi Kamber Parrk,

I like how you're drawing so much! You seem to fill your drawings with a lot of midtone shade; might I suggest this: try to cut down on so much filler shade, and identify where the important shadows are in the image you are drawing, and focus on them - push them so that they point out what the drawing is about. By having so many similar shading values all over, it seems to flatten the drawing and makes it harder for the eye to decipher it.

Hope that helps! Can't wait to see more.

Kamber Parrk
January 22nd, 2010, 02:39 AM
Hey freakmod-- welcome by!

Well, that's the second critique re readability of my filler stuff.

And, I do understand what you're saying! (The problem with my way of working is that it simulates the way I would work up the drawing in graphite or vine charcoal-- which I would rub and work on with kleenex and kneaded eraser. But, I'm not giving myself the time frame for that level of work, and conte (per my experiments on similar tooth paper outside this book) doesn't rub all that well.) [Though, for high contrasty carefully built up small areas--like the Coon Paw--the stuff can be really clean and elegant.]

I'll try to work in some higher contrast "3 tone a la Bridgman" type of enviros, see how it works. [But, for Book III, I'm already experimenting with sanguine as a somewhat more workable (at speed) media that is dustier, chalkier than black conte and allows for some smearability but is still neater than vine.

Boot.

Kamber Parrk
January 23rd, 2010, 01:37 AM
JFK and Lady Gaga.

Kamber Parrk
January 23rd, 2010, 09:44 PM
Old guy on a bench. (After a charcoal drawing by Kamber Parrk that was actually better and didn't take 20 minutes. . .)

freakmod
January 24th, 2010, 12:38 AM
That is an awesome boot.

Kamber Parrk
January 24th, 2010, 08:09 PM
Thanks freakmod-- I liked the way that one came out too.

I did take your advice on this next Starbucks sketch: I dropped the atmospheric half-tone stuff I normally do, interpreted human flesh as the white of the paper (like comic art or Bridgman), and used minimal half-tone and line weight for a high contrast "3 tone" handling-- result is (yet another) person with a lap top. . .

Also, including a vine charcoal sketch on newsprint-- man on bench-- trying to get over my disdain for vine and get back to it for master studies and life drawing.

Kamber Parrk
January 26th, 2010, 12:25 AM
Nun with a cross. (After Velazquez, took my full 20 minutes doing a line drawing).

Kamber Parrk
January 27th, 2010, 01:56 AM
Old Woman Cooking. (After Velazquez).

Kamber Parrk
January 28th, 2010, 12:17 AM
Guy named Conan after a guy named Frazetta.

Kamber Parrk
January 28th, 2010, 09:42 PM
A Chinese lesson.

Kamber Parrk
January 31st, 2010, 01:12 AM
Squirrel and coffee mug.

Kamber Parrk
February 1st, 2010, 12:09 AM
Wegman dogs.

Kamber Parrk
February 1st, 2010, 08:21 AM
Couple figures from the mall. (Vine on newsprint, probably about 10 to 15 minutes each).

Kamber Parrk
February 1st, 2010, 09:08 PM
Art bin, mirror and squirrel.

Kamber Parrk
February 3rd, 2010, 12:22 AM
A pistol lesson.

Kamber Parrk
February 3rd, 2010, 11:12 PM
Experiment: massing in the darkest darks of some Vanderpoel heads with a blunt tipped chunk of conte, no line drawing.

Kamber Parrk
February 5th, 2010, 01:31 AM
First officer and captain.

numlaut
February 5th, 2010, 01:59 AM
Hey Kamber,

I really like the simple line drawings of that slipper you posted on January 14th. I would love to see more. Its amazing how much visual information one can describe with a simple line drawing.

Keep it up, man!

Kamber Parrk
February 5th, 2010, 10:00 PM
Hey numlaut-- thanks for dropping in!

(That was actually an abandoned study, posted out of sequence from my Christmas dump-- was from a "Birkenstock" store at an outlet mall. Been tempted to leave a bit more stuff in pure line-- like the nun sketch. . . )

Anyway:

Drapery study, man's shirt. (Abandoned-- subject moved and destroyed the wrinkles I was working out).

Hands after Raphael. (Last Capt. Kirk hand was pretty bad for even a quick sketch-- so, a little corrective discipline. . .)

Kamber Parrk
February 6th, 2010, 10:10 PM
Man with headphones. [Done with an unsharpened stick of sanguine in under 10 minutes-- experiment for a replacement of the Conte, maybe, for Book III when Book II concludes-- (I'm calling 100 pages a "book").]

Kamber Parrk
February 6th, 2010, 10:22 PM
These are "hand gestures" of "headphone man"-- kept moving his hands, didn't get much for studies-- 20 minutes-- vine and newsprint.

Kamber Parrk
February 8th, 2010, 02:02 AM
Figure with magazine. (Ball point and sanguine, 15 minutes).

Kamber Parrk
February 10th, 2010, 02:05 AM
Abandoned ball point study of a head. (< 10 minutes).
Life. (Ball point & conte). (20 min.)
Life. (Vine on Strathmore charcoal paper, 20 min.).

gmc9987
February 11th, 2010, 08:29 AM
I really like the lines of this one:

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=902382&stc=1&d=1265788991

It looks like you really laid the groundwork for an awesome study in that one.

Kamber Parrk
February 12th, 2010, 01:35 AM
Thanks gmc9987! I've been trying to focus on laying out planes in my life drawing-- with vine, I'm slow as all crap-- but, I think concentrating on planes will (eventually) pay off.

Anyway:

Lady Gaga from "Bad Romance." (about 18 min.)

Creepy flesh cat from "Bad Romance." (about 15 min.)

Kamber Parrk
February 13th, 2010, 12:35 AM
Cowboy A: video screen capture.
Cowboy B: reffed from Leyendecker link recently posted in General Forums.

"A" had its problems! Figured I'd take another whack at the subject matter.

Diarum
February 13th, 2010, 12:41 AM
Your stuff is really coming a long, you anatomy is shaping up nicely so *cheers* may the power of the pencil stay strong within you.

Aila
February 13th, 2010, 03:54 AM
Hi Kamber!
Your studies are really picking up, getting good shapes in the figures. I like the hand studies in post 167. Nice improvements, keep it up! :D

Kamber Parrk
February 14th, 2010, 01:09 AM
Diarum: thanks for the drop-by! Anatomy's hit and miss with me! I know more than I can sometimes make work.

Aila: always good to see ya! Oh, but wait, when I start studying something, again, like hands, I seem to always go through a good to worse to better sort of cycle!

Anyway: An Asaro type head.

Kamber Parrk
February 14th, 2010, 11:02 PM
Captain Kirk. (Ball point line and plane study, around 18 min.)

Kamber Parrk
February 15th, 2010, 09:50 PM
Board student. (Subject absconded at around 8 min.)

Kamber Parrk
February 19th, 2010, 03:32 AM
Make up dump.

Three figures about a table (around 15 min.)
Ladder Truck (fireman left around 12 minutes).
Landing Party (20 minutes, really should'a sharpened the conte. . .)

George Abraham
February 19th, 2010, 09:03 AM
Good going dude. Love your Gaga

That cat's weird. In the part where she's crying with those pretty eyes whe's got a shrivled version of a snake or that cat or something on her head.

Bizarre Genius that woman is.

Kamber Parrk
February 20th, 2010, 01:57 AM
Hey zaorr-- thanks for visiting!
The Gaga picture's a bit rough, but if I back up from the screen a few feet, it "reads" a bit better than I thought it would. That video fascinates me, for whatever reason, so, along with classic Star Trek, it'll probably be revisited for SB fodder.

Anyway: another material experiment for future Book III-- Prismacolor black pencil. The cat just wasn't having the posing thing and bailed out after about 8 minutes, so I just laid in a bit of Prismacolor, afterwards, as an experiment.

So, I'll call it "Man With Cat."

Kamber Parrk
February 21st, 2010, 07:53 PM
Dali Lama leavin' by the backdoor. (20 min., more experimenting with black Prismacolor, from on-line news).

Kamber Parrk
February 21st, 2010, 10:12 PM
A selection of Starbucks heads (mostly) vine on newsprint.
Last: vine on Strathmore 400, man reading.

Kamber Parrk
February 23rd, 2010, 12:07 AM
Espresso Bar. (Ball point and black Prismacolor pencil-- think I'm ditching the conte and going with this, now!)

3 Head studies: time uncertain, 10 to 25 minutes each, moving targets, lots of down-time. (Generals Medium charcoal pencil on newsprint).

Kamber Parrk
February 24th, 2010, 01:26 AM
Dolan and The Spirit. (Ball point, Prismacolor).

freakmod
February 24th, 2010, 04:37 AM
I love the style on that last drawing :)

Regarding the heads, try studying the simplified skull shape in 3d, just the cranium and mandible as simple geometric shapes together, from different angles. Some of the heads look a bit distorted to my eyes.

Kamber Parrk
February 25th, 2010, 01:30 AM
Hey--welcome back freakmod!

(That's actually Will Eisner's style filtered through my slapdash daily sketch mode.) Dang! I wish you would have been a little more detailed on what heads-- there's some obvious stuff-- but, it would be interesting to confirm some stuff that I've been thinking about.

But, where I get distortion in "public heads" is mostly from trying to track 3 or 4 "poses" from a subject while trying to create 1 image-- something I've taken to calling "imperfect referencing." [It's sometimes an issue in formal life studies where the model gets an itch, cramp or whatever, breaks the pose, then resumes it in a close, but not quite the same orientation. Then, you're stuck with the task of finishing an initial sketch with "information" that's slightly out of alignment with what you were just doing.]

Anyway. . .

Sidewalk at night. (18 minutes. Probably doesn't look like much to any normal viewers. But, I really like this one! Somehow I nailed something about a little piece of my personal little universe-- just couldn't stop looking at it. . .)

Kamber Parrk
February 26th, 2010, 12:34 AM
Three seated figures. (Black Prismacolor pencil, 18 min.)

If I could get 4 figures (in a bit more detail), with more of a hint of the environment, and with a better overall handling of lighting, in this same time frame, I would say that I would have then perfected the "speed sketching system" that I'm aiming for with this daily book.

Kamber Parrk
February 28th, 2010, 02:52 AM
Phaser.

Kamber Parrk
February 28th, 2010, 08:33 PM
Spikey headed latex monsters from "Bad Romance."

Kamber Parrk
March 1st, 2010, 09:17 PM
Two Asaro type heads.
Ecorche type head.

Xeon_OND
March 2nd, 2010, 03:57 AM
Well Kamber, I visited your SB after you keep posting in my SB. I've just added your SB to my watch list because the loose style you have helps to loosen my mind. :D LOL!

You seem to be totally loose in your sketches without giving a **** about details and yet your sketches are accurate, which is awesome. I wish I have your loose style!

Btw, how old are you? :D

Kamber Parrk
March 3rd, 2010, 01:19 AM
Hey Xeon-- welcome by!

Yep! This SB is all about looseness and trying to get quicker. Initial "layout" is all about breaking things down to the simplest masses-- so, small detail is something I try to diligently ignore, subordinate or fake! Agewise, I'm somewhat over 30, but I've been drawing since I was a little kid. And, honestly, some of the stuff I did in elementary school was better than a lot of what is in this SB. But, throughout life, I've gradually (with on and off study) developed more consistent control when I work "tight"-- like the "bunny heads" or the "boot" in this SB.

Anyway. . .

Three seated figures. (Figures that all got up and left w/i 5 minutes-- probably 2.5 minutes of "drawing" and 2.5 minutes of waiting for people to hold still-- ball point).

Art Deco Angel (Hoover Dam local, random internet photo ref. Just like Art Deco statuary).

Kamber Parrk
March 3rd, 2010, 01:25 AM
What's the deal with the damn attachment manager?

Kamber Parrk
March 4th, 2010, 02:47 AM
Lady Gaga riding a blow-up orca in a wading pool. (From "Just Dance").

Kamber Parrk
March 6th, 2010, 08:05 PM
I've determined that, past the 6 month point, I'm 13 images behind in my goal of 365 images at the anniversary of inception. So, I'm doing a weekend of quadruple posts to bring this SB current. Below: Four 10 minute roughs from "Magnificent Seven" screen pauses (all black Prismacolor):

Shooting in the village.
Riding shotgun on a hearse.
Clap hands.
Harry.

Kamber Parrk
March 8th, 2010, 12:56 AM
Second qraduple post: all black Prismacolor pencil, 10 min. except as noted.

Man out back working for his breakfast.
Challenge.
Robert Vaugh. (20 min.)
Ringing of the village bell.

Kamber Parrk
March 9th, 2010, 02:16 AM
Third quad post, continuing with "The Magnificent Seven," roughly 15 minutes each:

Shootout with Calvera's scouts.
Shot at a fleeing scout.
Teaching the villagers to shoot.
Where are the others?

Kamber Parrk
March 9th, 2010, 04:50 PM
Fourth quad post: all ballpoint mannikins, 5 to 10 minutes.

I'll allow myself a mild bit of conceit-- the mannikins are actually better than they look!

Laptop mannikin.
Lounging mannikin.
Mannikin on tall chair.
Mannikin head.

Kamber Parrk
March 9th, 2010, 09:55 PM
Life torso. (15 min., black Prismacolor 935).

Kamber Parrk
March 11th, 2010, 01:25 AM
Masked Lady Gaga from "Poker Face."

Xeon_OND
March 11th, 2010, 01:40 AM
Masked Lady Gaga from "Poker Face."
THIS!!!!!!!!!!!

Kamber Parrk
March 12th, 2010, 12:30 AM
Hey Xeon! (Me, though I didn't do it justice, I kinda like that scene in "Just Dance" where she's riding the blow-up Orca-- as a guy, I just find that part of the video kinda hypnotic. . .)

Anyway: Post 200-- the end of Book II!

Say 200 X 18 minutes (average)= 3600 minutes= 60 hours of sketching.

And it's a cow. (False color toy cow, 25 minutes, black Prismacolor).

Xeon_OND
March 12th, 2010, 02:26 AM
Yo Kamber! :D I just notice you're an animal (and possibly, country-side) lover. ;)
Birds, cows, squirrels....I wanna see a lion next, as they're my fave animals!

Aila
March 12th, 2010, 04:04 AM
I'm liking those recent mannequin studies and the life torso in the post afterwards! I'm not a fan of Lady Gaga, but she has some wacky ways, must be an interesting subject to draw.

Kamber Parrk
March 13th, 2010, 11:52 AM
BOOK III STARTS HERE

Xeon You got it! Next animal sketch'll be some sorta lion theme.

Aila I'm usually immune to pop culture! All the Gaga stuff, along with classic "Star Trek" and movie captures are my attempt at "reverse storyboarding"-- trying to think in terms of "shots" and "camera angles" and telling stories with select illustrations-- all to benefit my cartooning skills.

Anyway: I'm making some changes for Book III. I'm upping my time frame to 15 to 30 minutes. The more complex sketches should benefit from this, but I'll still be forced to be loose and quick. Next, I'll be working primarily with a black Prismacolor 935 pencil. On Canson, these don't offer much correction potential-- so, I still have the discipline of ball point and can still make light ghostly gesture doodles that can be subsumed within the actual drawing. Ball point will still factor in from time to time. Overall, I'm shooting to develop a sort of Mike Butkus storyboard technique. And, I'll be trying to work in some of that "Reilly Method" shadow mapping, see how it may serve me.

Below: Sketch after "The Water Seller" by Velazquez

Kamber Parrk
March 14th, 2010, 10:52 PM
Four seated figures. (About 18 minutes, continuous disruption by 3 little girls that kept running around blocking the view of various figures).

Kamber Parrk
March 15th, 2010, 11:30 PM
Horst Bucholz and Yul Brynner from "Magnificent Seven." (25 min.)

Kamber Parrk
March 16th, 2010, 10:29 PM
So, I think Xeon said he wanted to see a badly drawn lion in black Prismacolor based on pictures I had on my hard drive from a trip to the zoo in Seattle. Well, I aim to please. . .

Xeon_OND
March 17th, 2010, 03:04 AM
So, I think Xeon said he wanted to see a badly drawn lion in black Prismacolor based on pictures I had on my hard drive from a trip to the zoo in Seattle. Well, I aim to please. . .
LOL, cute lion! I wanna stroke its neck and cuddle it's shaggy head!!!! :D

Kamber Parrk
March 17th, 2010, 09:31 PM
Hey Xeon, glad ya liked it! But, honestly, I think it would have worked better if I had left it more as a line drawing-- was trying to hit some subtle values that I haven't really tried with the Prismacolor.

Anyway. . .

Broken pallet. (Ball point, 30 min.)

Kamber Parrk
March 19th, 2010, 01:36 PM
From yesterday:

Table and Chairs. (5 minutes into this, the setting got occupied, so just tried to rough in some stuff based on an incomplete layout).

Kamber Parrk
March 20th, 2010, 12:02 AM
Casserole dish.

Xeon_OND
March 20th, 2010, 11:02 AM
From yesterday:

Table and Chairs. (5 minutes into this, the setting got occupied, so just tried to rough in some stuff based on an incomplete layout).
Only 5 mins + completing some parts from imagination to get all these right perspective is not easy! I verily salute you. :yayca:

Kamber Parrk
March 20th, 2010, 10:22 PM
Oh, thanks Xeon-- that drawing is part of what this SB is about-- training visual memory. It doesn't look like much. But, I was actively studying that chair even if I couldn't complete drawing it.

So, this one'll probably freak you out. After studying one of the standard chairs in a [non-Starbucks] that I frequent-- quick loose charcoal sketches, rough schematics, and a formal perspective in primitives-- about 20 to 25 minutes-- I went home and spent 22 minutes drawing the below totally from memory with no ref.

Memory chair. (22 minutes).

Kamber Parrk
March 23rd, 2010, 02:23 AM
Porkpie hat, checkout woman, and dashboard iguana. (about 2 minutes each).

Kamber Parrk
March 24th, 2010, 01:33 PM
[Note to self: previously unscanned daily from yesterday.]

Three seated figures.

Diarum
March 24th, 2010, 02:25 PM
Hey dude, its been a while since I stopped by your SB, over a month. But anyways I just wanted to say keep with like, remeber to watch for perspective problems and anatomy problems and folds looking wierd, Nothing really new to say but w/es lol are you using a pencil or charcoal(spelled it wrong I think) I know my spelling can suck at times. Just remeber to really look at something, I feel like a hypocrit saying that because its like I tell other people that but I still have my own problems with all of that. So it s like saying something then doing something different. I don't know but keep it up and stuff, study more and draw till you drop. lol I should be doing my school work.. but I don't care at this point.

Kamber Parrk
March 25th, 2010, 12:12 AM
Hey Diarum, welcome back!

Crit me all you want-- I gotta thick skin-- the only bad comment is no comment! Re perspective: today's offering, below, is woefully lacking. If I used a more erasable medium, could'a redone the lines of the shingles. Oh well! My hero, Andrew Wyeth, had a loose craptastic sketching style as well. . .

My actual daily SB is now done with a Prismacolor black PC935 pencil, to answer your question.

Re clothing folds--"drapery"-- damn straight! I gotta put more study into this.

Re crits: don't worry-- I, too, can tell people about things I know but don't always do all that well.

Anyway. . .

Window, bucket and broom.

Kamber Parrk
March 26th, 2010, 01:31 AM
Wolves menacing a buffalo. (From recent Natl. Geographic).

Kamber Parrk
March 28th, 2010, 04:53 PM
More wolves.

Kamber Parrk
March 30th, 2010, 12:06 AM
Wolf. (After Art Anatomy Of Animals by Ernest Thompson Seton).

Kamber Parrk
March 31st, 2010, 10:56 AM
From yesterday:

Page of toy cat rotations. (18 to 20 min.)

Kamber Parrk
March 31st, 2010, 10:06 PM
Norman Rockwell applies Vulcan nerve pinch to a beagle.

Kamber Parrk
April 2nd, 2010, 12:14 AM
Folds. (After George B. Bridgman).

Diarum
April 2nd, 2010, 02:37 AM
That drapery looks pretty good, lol could use some work though. I saw your SB on and was wondering how come you don't post some of that stuff on here?
Second I saw your from Washington state, If you really do, lol what city do you live in?

Kamber Parrk
April 2nd, 2010, 10:41 PM
Hey Diarum,

Thanks, but that drapery's probably as good as I'm gonna make it without counterfeiting every little Bridgman squiggle! CGHub SB is just where I post a smaller number of slightly better works-- more of a rough portfolio thread than the looser stuff I do here. Busted! I'm actually a Nigerian posing as an Eastsider. (But, if each member of the Penvirate can front me $5,000 dollars to help me pay the taxes on my Nigerian lottery winnings-- I'll pay you back--plus a generous share of the 3 million dollars. . .:D)

Anyway. . .

More Bridgman drapery.

CyGear
April 4th, 2010, 04:02 AM
Hey Kamber,
nice work.
I see, you try to improve your abilities in gestures and perspective of bodies.
Then, you draw clothes what is really hard because, so I have to say, it is really hard to see how a shirt or something else crumple and wringle...

Hope you will update more than this pics....


CyGear

Kamber Parrk
April 4th, 2010, 08:19 PM
Hey CyGear-- thanks for the drop by-- owe you one!

Yeah, I try to work on a variety of issues-- 'cause I have so many!

Anyway. . .

Studies of people's clothes without the people.
Table and four chairs.
Drapery study after Andrew Wyeth (Christine).

Kamber Parrk
April 5th, 2010, 10:54 PM
Haven't played with the toy cow in awhile or reviewed Ellenberger. So, just sat down without any review to see how I could handle the cow totally from memory. Worked pretty quickly-- not all that happy with it. . .

Memory cow. (8 to 10 min.)

Xeon_OND
April 6th, 2010, 04:29 AM
I love your table and chair the most!
Seems like I've a furniture fetish up my sleeve. :p

Kamber Parrk
April 6th, 2010, 09:25 PM
Thanks Xeon, but I think the "memory chair" came out better, and I wasn't even looking at it! But, I did have a spectator who commented on my table and chair study-- she said it had a good sense of depth-- which was very perceptive, 'cause that's what I do most of the "cafe studies" for-- to aid me in visualizing simple environments for cartoons.

Anyway, this next one isn't my daily, it's just a "fold in" that I liked. Probably edit in the daily sometime before midnight.

Preston Blair squirrel. (.5mm Pigma over HB graphite layout, accent with black Prismacolor pencil.)

Kamber Parrk
April 7th, 2010, 08:12 PM
Stuff for yesterday, today and an extra.

Correction cow. (Self crit: this, drawn from the toy, shows me that the "memory cow" had a short, fat body; oversized juvenile type head; and some wierd perspective issues. Time about 10 to 15 min.)

2" cube rotations. (about 2-3 min. per cube).

Gesture drawing of my injection molded plastic squirrel-- 15 seconds. Yep, that was right, 15 seconds. [I drew this to help Diarum understand the idea of gesture that he was wondering about in his SB and to show Xenon the working method that underpins almost all the drawings that I do. Though, in other works, my "gestures" are lighter, neater, and normally "subsumed" by the drawing process and/or erased if the medium allows.

Xeon_OND
April 8th, 2010, 11:46 PM
Stuff for yesterday, today and an extra.

Correction cow. (Self crit: this, drawn from the toy, shows me that the "memory cow" had a short, fat body; oversized juvenile type head; and some wierd perspective issues. Time about 10 to 15 min.)

2" cube rotations. (about 2-3 min. per cube).

Gesture drawing of my injection molded plastic squirrel-- 15 seconds. Yep, that was right, 15 seconds. [I drew this to help Diarum understand the idea of gesture that he was wondering about in his SB and to show Xenon the working method that underpins almost all the drawings that I do. Though, in other works, my "gestures" are lighter, neater, and normally "subsumed" by the drawing process and/or erased if the medium allows.
Thanks Kamber! (btw, not sure if you're refering to me, but it's Xeon, not Xenon or Xerox :p)

Now, that's the gesture! I never knew you did gesture, Kamber....I always thought you just go straight in and block / draw in the shapes.

My hats off to you. I'm going to study your previous drawings in more detail. :p

Btw, Kamber, you're 27 and working in a non-art related job right? And I assume you only draw at night and during weekends? :)

Kamber Parrk
April 9th, 2010, 11:28 PM
Oops, sorry Xeon! (Made a typo and turned you into one of the "noble gases. . .") Your characterization is accurate, but I'm a bit over 30. (Though, I draw at the level of a highly gifted 11 year old). Light quick gesture is how I usually start out-- but neater than the procedures outlined by Nicolaides.

Anyway: another Blair squirrel, yesterday's Jack Hamm tree, and a selection of coniferous Hamm trees for today.

Kamber Parrk
April 11th, 2010, 12:42 AM
Douglas Fir cone and needles.

PermaN00b
April 11th, 2010, 11:51 AM
kamber thanks for stopping by my sb. so i just took the last half hour or so going through your thread here. i must say that it is pretty awesome watching how consistent your improvement is. page by page your renderings become better and better. you are def on your way with the value work. so the preston blair stuff is really cool. i've never heard of preston blair but will def be googling it. i am a huge fan of the cartoon, it reminds me of the old looney toons or walt disney.

Kamber Parrk
April 11th, 2010, 10:52 PM
Hey PermaNOOb, welcome by!

Oh, but just wait, the quality of this book bounces all over the place! Preston Blair was an old time Disney guy. His book Cartoon Animation is readily available. You should get a copy-- it's fun stuff to play around with.

Anyway. . .

Three views of a cow pelvis. (after Ellenberger).

Aila
April 12th, 2010, 07:52 AM
Ah, wolves! And cats! Lovely animals.. well done on the studies. I like the loose style on those trees too, it's good to learn how to capture the "essence" of something by using simple strokes. It helps with painting too (I find), should you ever go in that direction :)

Also, cute Blair squirrel :tihi:

Kamber Parrk
April 12th, 2010, 07:03 PM
Hey Aila!

Thanks, the mini wolf phase was fun. Hamm's all about those essential strokes--painting's just around the corner-- but, "inking" is more my rendering focus du jour! Get used to disgustingly cute Blair squirrels-- they're gonna pop up here more and more.

Anyway. . .

'nother Blair squirrel and some Hamm texture practice that turned into me pressure testing a Prisma. ('sposed to be rock textures-- conte incorporates the texture of the paper better than Prisma. . .)

Kamber Parrk
April 14th, 2010, 03:09 AM
Thumbnail perspective study of ornamental bridge.

Kamber Parrk
April 14th, 2010, 08:51 PM
Blair squirrel, again.

Toy pig.

Kamber Parrk
April 15th, 2010, 09:10 PM
Reclining nude. (After Loomis, with some weird Reilly shading).

Abandoned Kmart, parking lot.

Kamber Parrk
April 15th, 2010, 09:15 PM
Stupid attachment manager.

Kamber Parrk
April 16th, 2010, 04:37 PM
Rough expression studies with Preston Blair's pup character. (HB pencil).

Kamber Parrk
April 17th, 2010, 01:47 AM
Ruger Super Blackhawk.

Xeon_OND
April 17th, 2010, 10:20 AM
The Blair squirrel is getting cuter and cuter post by post! Seriously, even real squirrels don't even look half as cute! Shit. :D

Walt Disney created Mickey Mouse; someday, hopefully, you'll create an equivalent character that's all yours alone.....

Blair Squiggy!

The viewpoint which the gun is being shown is very cool, but I just hope you drew it from photo and not a real gun in front of you (I'm aware 1 out of 3 Americans have guns in their house :yayca:).

Kamber Parrk
April 17th, 2010, 03:20 PM
Hey Xeon! The Blair Squirrels have a disgusting level of cuteness engineered into them. Real squirrels, like the ones I occasionally tempt into my livingroom with peanuts, are actually kind of freaky looking. And, their faces are harder and boney-ier looking than are the cartoon forms.

I already have a pretty good "stable" of personal cartoon characters. My study of the human figure over the last couple years, and my on and off Blair studies, are an attempt to get away from "flatness." As you and I are (painfully) aware from figure drawing, the figure appears really flat and it takes a good, solid knowledge of anatomy and construction to make a figure really jump off the page. [Ultimately, if all this crap leads to a traditional American newspaper comic strip, I will have succeeded. .. ]

Heh, heh! It pleases me that you can't tell whether the gun is reffed or real. (I'll take that as a sign I'm on the right track).

Anyway. . .

"Floating skulls" page from Peck's Atlas. (30 min. One of these days I'm going to take a whole afternoon and do a really good job on these. . .)

Diarum
April 17th, 2010, 06:21 PM
Don't know if you have already said but why are you doing the squeal? lol I assume that you want to a cartoonist? thats pretty cool. The gun looks good but looks like its missing some details that should be there. The area right before where the bullets are held doesn't seem to be right, looking at a picture of the gun. The pup character looks cool. anyways hope that some of it helped a little for CC :D keep on keepin on