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coberst
August 7th, 2009, 08:20 AM
Is more technology the answer?

Technology is a positive feed back system. When the output of the system increases the system goes at a higher rate. There is no equilibrium in a positive feedback system. Capitalism is such a system.

In a negative feed back system when the output increases the system goes at a slower pace or turns off completely, like the thermostatically controlled home heating furnace. Such a system seeks and maintains equilibrium. Our body is such a system.

As our world population continues to increase we (humanity) face a big question: How will we feed everybody? Until lately, India thought that they had found the answer for creating cheap food for their hundreds of millions.

“Farmers in the state of Punjab abandoned traditional farming methods in the 1960s and 1970s as part of the national program called the "Green Revolution," backed by advisers from the U.S. and other countries.

Indian farmers started growing crops the American way — with chemicals, high-yield seeds and irrigation.

Since then, India has gone from importing grain like a beggar, to often exporting it.

But studies show the Green Revolution is heading for collapse.”

When he Green Revolution was launched 40 years ago framers began to grow only high-yield crops instead of their traditional crops. The new crops required more water than the old crops so that farmers were required to create new wells. These new wells caused the ground water level to fall and the declining level caused the water to become more salty than before. These new wells required better and more expensive pumps, which led to indebtedness by the farmers.

This led to a problem similar to the problem we in the US have recently experienced, i.e. India’s Wall Street equivalent grew fat and happy and farmers accumulated debts that they could not pay. This created a financial “quicksand”.

The new crops demanded much more from the soil and the water wells pumped more salty water because of lowered ground water and the combination destroyed the soil.

During the good years the farmers increased their standard of living and built new homes for their families, thus adding more debt.

"It's like a disease that is catching on in the world," says Suba, "building a life that is like a house of cards."

"The state and farmers are now faced with a crisis…India's population is growing faster than any country on Earth, and domestic food production is vital.

But the commission's director, G.S. Kalkat, says Punjab's farmers are committing ecological and economic "suicide”… Kalkat says only one thing can save Punjab: India has to launch a brand new Green Revolution. But he says this one has to be sustainable.

The problem is, nobody has yet perfected a farming system that produces high yields, makes a good living for farm families, protects and enhances the environment — and still produces good, affordable food.”

India's Farming 'Revolution' Heading For Collapse
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=102944731

~Faust~
August 7th, 2009, 08:25 AM
I believe these forums might be more appropriate to your tastes and you won't get flamed there for those questions: http://www.ephilosopher.com/news.php

darkwolf29a
August 7th, 2009, 09:34 AM
That is very interesting.

I do think that you are right though. The population of the world will suffer from further problems related to this kind of activity. I mean, the Earth (as strong as she is) cannot sustain an unlimited population growth indefinately. Eventually, we will reach a point where the population MUST start to decline, unless we find a new way to produce more food that is enviromentally friendly, is VERY stable, and sustainable. Without that, some of the population of the world must go away, period. I'm not saying that we should run around and start doing away with people, but if something does not change...the world will change our way of life for us.

Remember a few years ago, global warming was the buzz word. Now, it's climate change. Part of what we have figured out is that we are to blame for part of it, but the Earth lives and breathes....and we are at her mercy. And she is changing...the key is that we have sped up her change...and that could cost some of us dearly.

IKV Nexis
August 7th, 2009, 10:06 AM
The solution is easy!! SOLENT GREEN!!!!!!

coberst
August 7th, 2009, 03:28 PM
I believe these forums might be more appropriate to your tastes and you won't get flamed there for those questions: http://www.ephilosopher.com/news.php

Thanks for the suggestion.

coberst
August 7th, 2009, 03:30 PM
According to current population forecasts, population aging in the first half of this century should exceed that of the second half of the 20th century. For the world as a whole, the elderly will grow from 6.9% of the population in 2000 to a projected 19.3% in 2050 (Table 1). In other words, the world average should then be higher than the current world record

http://longevity-science.org/Population_Aging.htm

carlosranna
August 7th, 2009, 03:39 PM
Buy food from Brazil. We are cool.

ArtZealot
August 7th, 2009, 04:46 PM
Well Colberst, i reply to your question with a question: Where is your sketchbook link?

Ninjerk
August 7th, 2009, 04:50 PM
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XanaChama
August 7th, 2009, 04:54 PM
http://www.weeklyreader.com/readandwriting/content/binary/spam%20boy.jpg

That guy looks so hilarious. LOL

Slash
August 7th, 2009, 06:42 PM
More technology won't matter much. Whats important is LESS STUPID!

VulgarDragon
August 7th, 2009, 07:33 PM
Spam or not, it's still an interesting topic to ponder.

"For every reaction, there is an opposite and equal reaction."

That is true with technology...while life gets improved in one area, there is an opposite and harmful effect in play in another area.

hippl5
August 7th, 2009, 07:53 PM
"The state and farmers are now faced with a crisis…India's population is growing faster than any country on Earth, and domestic food production is vital.


Everyone! I have the solution! Stop fucking!
Or at least pull out.

s.ketch
August 7th, 2009, 11:35 PM
More questions are the answer.

coberst
August 8th, 2009, 06:15 AM
Well Colberst, i reply to your question with a question: Where is your sketchbook link?

I have no sketchbook link. I am not very good and cannot allow others to discover that fact.

TASmith
August 8th, 2009, 07:27 AM
No amount of technology will save us from using up our resources...

The world population needs some way to gracefully decline.

VulgarDragon
August 8th, 2009, 09:22 AM
No amount of technology will save us from using up our resources...

The world population needs some way to gracefully decline.

I'm sure our world leaders got something special planned for us...

coberst
August 9th, 2009, 09:14 AM
I think that a more sophisticated population can trump a larger role for “poorly thought out technology”.

Baron Impossible
August 9th, 2009, 01:17 PM
You don't need technology to have fun

http://www.todaysbigthing.com/2009/08/05

dcorc
August 9th, 2009, 01:55 PM
I dread to think how that might have turned out if they'd got it wrong :x