The Art of Composition by El Coro and Jason Manley Closed

[Jason Manley]

Coro and I are going to do something special for you all this coming Sunday as he and I join up to cover the single most important aspect of image creation. We will be covering composition for Illustration, Narrative, Fine Art, Storyboarding, Marketing Art and more...

Topics to be covered:

The Principles of Design.
The Illusion of Space and Improved Image Depth.
Composition for Visual Storytelling
Linear Design and Visual Flow
Tonal Pattern and
Abstraction
Mood and Feeling
A Crash Course in Composition History



We will be covering many aspects of improved image creation which can be utilized regardless of style or industry to better your skills. This is very very practical stuff and you will leave the class with theories and ideas which will immediately improve your work and your awareness of how you create pictures with purpose.

When: This Sunday! 1-5pm CDT
Where: Right here on ConceptArt.Org (forum coming!)
Why: Because you want to improve your ability to create believable and deep images containing emotional depth, mood, and content. And because we want to help support CA and it's new technology goals (in progress!!)
How much? 95 USD. http://www.conceptartstore.com/artofco.html


More info to come!!! I gave a teaser when we did the color theory class and it covered only the most basic part...we are going to cover the entire spectrum of composition, value storytelling, and share ideas which help you have greater emotional impact in your works.


Join us for art, and in depth conversation on Composition. I consider this to be my best class and having Coro there with me, will make it an experience worth hearing and seeing. I have four hours of material prepared and we will be answering all your questions...at least as many as we possibly can!!

Hope you all will enjoy the class. I had planned on running it as a download but it is a topic that I have realized is much better served when I can answer technical questions and share the info with you all. Coro and I have been studying composition since the mid 90's and there is a TON of info which will be given to you.

Can't wait to see you all. Really. The questions so far have really pushed me to better communicate these ideas which have been refined down to the very core of what it takes to be successful in image making. Coro's knowledge of image creation and process is top notch.

As usual, with these courses, CA's proceeds are going to the suport the continued building of all the new technology for you all to enjoy. Thank you so much for the support...We will do all we can to help around


Really. thank you. Just got working with Jackie Oh and Randis on some new layouts for the site and the features list is thick and really the whole thing is beginning to lo looking thick. Going to keep at it til it is all done!!

Jason

[mc2mc2]

Does this mean there isn't gonna be the downloadable content on composition?
I can't seem to find that thread anymore either.

This sounds pretty interesting though.

EDIT: opps nevermind just read Jason's post over again heheh
EDIT 2: Jason is there a minimum recommended bandwidth speed to stream the lessons smoothly?

[Nrx]

ohhh c'moooonnn my bank is gonna be dry soon


but its fucking worth it

[Hive_minD]

Pitty im gone for the weekend. But I might just pay for the on demand, but will it have the entire class? Or will the beginning be missing like on the colourclass? (btw, that wasn't in a negative tone. Just wondering)

Btw, what is this 30days I'm hearing about. Does the on demand only last 30 days? SNAPP I better watch both the last classes once more to get it in reaaaaal good :)

[~Faust~]

I actually prefer this to a download (Not to say a download would be sweet), having the chance to interact with Jason and ask questions as well as clarifications is immensively valuable-

I will definately be there on sunday.

[Helen Blake]

Oh nooo. Your Sunday is our Monday any chance of bumping it back bit for the southern hemisphere?

[Jason Manley]

If we need to, we will run it twice...will see how the interest is.

Thanks for the comments. The colour theory should not have a missing part. I will discuss with Davi and get that resolved. Since there are some issues with the first two classes due to the switch over to the new ten channel plan, we will keep the course up another few days. Thanks for letting me know. If anyone has further issues please reach me directly via PM.


Jason

[Jason Manley]

I am going to be taking questions from those who cannot make the class until it hits on demand. I will make a thread for those folks so they can get all their questions answered. cool?

I am going to make an additional recording of those questions to add to the on demand library. I think that should help too.

Doing all I can. Trying my best...still working out the kinks but it is all coming together.


Jason

[Liffey]

Sucks that the download won't be happening... I would have saved my money from the last class for this if I'd known about it. Is there any chance of getting notice of topics a few classes in advance so we can budget for the ones we really want?

[XuperNova]

I am probably gonna start eating air and looking like a panda very soon *LOL* but well worth it!

[PieterV]

Hey Jason... would it be possible to offer these at lower prices with a one-time-only viewing option?
I understand you've got costs to cover, but purely from my perspective I'll be going bankrupt! :P

[platinumdagger]

Although I would've loved a cheaper option I'll say I'm still super excited about this, I've been looking forward to it. I definitely thought that the color class was well worth the money despite some hiccups with the technology.
I'm in agreement with the thought that eventually it'd be nice if there was a schedule of upcoming classes so people could save up and prioritize. I know you guys are getting things worked out, so I'm not complaining, just thought I'd raise my virtual hand in agreement with that sentiment.

Anyway, thanks again for all the work you do, it's much appreciated. : D

[Nrx]

Queue lazy writing skills,

Guys i've spent $200 on downloads and now $200 on classes. a few downloads i would get my money back on if i could and needed the money enough, but these lessons are worth everything and more.

in fact i feel asif im betraying myself writing this, the less people who know this info the better, because really, no one knows it like jason

[Rist]

At the edge of my seat waiting for this one. As long as I have money in the bank I will keep coming back!

Fantastic to have both of you this time. Gonna be one to remember.

[Liam Harvey]

okay.. said i was going to do the other classes live and i didnt have the chance-but i am very sure this is a green light!! yeah!

[Nightblue]

I like the idea of having a download that I can rewatch at any time, but I'll give the live class a spin this Sunday :)

edit: could anyone remind me where the live stream test link was?

[Liam Harvey]

Oh nooo. Your Sunday is our Monday any chance of bumping it back bit for the southern hemisphere?

I actually can make this class due to this. not saying everyone would feel this way but im enjoying that the change allows for me to participate.
The class time table for where i am is 2am to 6am Monday 10th of August 2009-dont have a problem there either really.

looking forward to discovering and learning.

[Noah Bradley]

No download?

:(

[Kitten Poker]

Does the code you get work on more than one computer? Just because I tend to live in two different places, with two different connections and different computers avaliable to use them. I'm really not sure about the wi-fi connection which would be Sunday night (as it's 6PM-11PM here), and I would like to be able to check stuff on the wired in broadband later in the week.

[CecelyV]

I'm confused. The Facebook message I got says Saturday, but the post for this thread says Sunday...I don't want to miss it, so could you clarify Jason?

Thanks ^_^

[matt_diecast]

Something that Liffey mentioned that I agree would be helpful - if we could get the topics of a few classes in advance. Having just paid my tax bill, I'm kinda broke this month, and it'd be good to be able to pick which seminars were of the most value to me, as I'm pretty sure I can't afford them all.

I know Jason and co are just in the early stages of figuring this out though, so I appreciate this might not be possible yet.

[Sidharth Chaturvedi]

Something that Liffey mentioned that I agree would be helpful - if we could get the topics of a few classes in advance. Having just paid my tax bill, I'm kinda broke this month, and it'd be good to be able to pick which seminars were of the most value to me, as I'm pretty sure I can't afford them all.

I know Jason and co are just in the early stages of figuring this out though, so I appreciate this might not be possible yet.

Definitely agree... A week's notice isn't enough for some of us to pull together $100 by a long shot.

[Shantih]

Really pooped about this, the live class won't be doable for me and I was checking back everyday for news on this download :(

[Kawe]

I was hoping for a download too. Have been refreshing the download section a lot and when it disappeared from there I was really bummed. Don't mind streaming really but it is the time that might be difficult :(

Will it be possible to pay to stream in all it's entirety at a later date?

[ikken]

Download please :(
There's no way I'll be able to watch it streaming, we're 12 hours ahead of the States because of timezone, pretty much the same for most of Europe.

[Jason Manley]

The reality is my comp download vid files were corrupted and we have been unable to get it to render out due to problems caused by both a bug with mac/adobe and a full operating system failure that we first thought was a hardware failure. I have spent four weeks on that video, days, nights, weekends. The only way for me to do it again at this point is to completely start from scratch. I wanted that vid out weeks ago...but I am stuck here...we have tried rendering in small bits, we have tried reediting and rendering...both the source files and the project were damaged and so the option for me at this point is to teach it live...and to do so in a way that is better than what I had to offer with the download.

My way of helping make up for that was adding coro to the mix so we can include another extremely experienced viewpoint and provide even more information than I would have been able to on my own. The both of us doing this together is valuable and offers improvement to the program.

As said, if I had my way it would have already been out. I would not have said it was out unless I believed it was going to work out. I announced when we started rendering the final, as always, and then got hit with the problems and that in turn led to thinking it was solved and then more software/hardware/file issues. It is a loss to me, in time, in effort, and financially. I would have had another download out which would help this community and now I do not. I had to pay to get it made too. It is a loss. The best I can do is to make up for it with a better program than I had before...and this class is going to be exactly that.



Jason

[Noah Bradley]

Thanks for explaining, Jason. Bummer to hear about all that, but good luck with the class. I can't scrounge up the money to do this one, but maybe another time.

[Lamp]

I'd honestly be glad to pay the 90 bucks, even if only to view this live session. It's just a matter of timing. I wonder why THIS class couldn't be provided to view as a download at a later time? I understand that you must have your reasons, Jason, I am just curious.

[Studio Colrouphobia]

Thank you for explaining Jason, unfortunately this mean I wont be able to get this (very important) knowledge. I do not have 95 bucks to spare. I know people scream at that with the notion: if you wish to improve you CAN spend the cash, but the reality is that 20, maybe even 50 bucks I could have spent, but 95 means my children do not have food...


So I am hoping that there will be an alternative along the road- alternatively that I will get lucky and be able to save up for a future class..

[Jason Manley]

CA editors are already working hard on the next round of downloads including Andrew Jones Fine Art part two, Donato Giancola's, and another Zhanglu.

Right now CA does not have the editing bandwidth, and I do not have another week to re-record...it is either I do it streaming style or the other option is to not do it at all, given the circumstances...the latter would put it in the back of the download line that is already in production...which means another year out before it can be taught The goal is to take what I have and to add coro and all his considerable skills and knowledge to the mix. This will be a better course because of that.

I have taken the liberty of cleaning up this thread. Please, keep the discussion on the class. I am hopeful for the understanding. If you want to send me a PM on your questions, I will try to answer them.

Regarding the schedule..yes we are looking at that now...expect there will be great demos and lectures, live, every weekend for the next few months. We have much to do.

Best,


Jason

[Jason Manley]

Oh and if you cannot afford it now, it may run again toward the end of the year, but will be up for another month after the live stream, so I can answer questions.

[Jason Manley]

Pitty im gone for the weekend. But I might just pay for the on demand, but will it have the entire class? Or will the beginning be missing like on the colourclass? (btw, that wasn't in a negative tone. Just wondering)

Btw, what is this 30days I'm hearing about. Does the on demand only last 30 days? SNAPP I better watch both the last classes once more to get it in reaaaaal good :)


Thanks for letting me know it was missing. Thanks to Davi for helping solve it.

Jason

[LostFayth]

Damn you guys. Why do you have to make such classes that are so hard to resist. :( I'm going to get bankrupt if I keep on doing this, but I can't help it! I'M IN! :D

Looking forward to hearing el coro and el presidente speak together. If it's better then the color theory (like you said) it's more then well worth the money and skipping a few hours of sleep.

[white beard]

good to know that it might run again. I'd hate to miss this as I'm not sure whether i have the money to spend right now.
And I agree that it would be better if we get advance notice of the course that will be coming. Something like a schedule will be nice

[John]

Just wanted to throw in an opinion here. Drawing is a rather affordable thing to do if you compare it to being in a band, recording music, tuning cars, riding horses or traveling the world. I don't know how often i've heard people complain about the cost of a lifedrawing class. If you're serious about your art, put away extra money. I don't make much, but when i do, i make sure to keep an overhead to spend on art materials and courses. If you, like me, miss this opportunity, take it as a reminder of one of the most overlooked ways of improving your art ... being able to afford it.

[Jason Manley]

schedule is coming...working on it with Melissa Lee and the crew. Some great ones are coming up over the next couple months. Expect to see at least one, if not two, courses per weekend for the rest of this month.

[jag.med]

thanks for explaining, and again sharing this knowledge. I will be attending, albeit I had to explain to my wife how important composition is. XD

[Jason Snair]

Alright! I think I'm gonna do this one. Been on vacation the last couple of weekends, missed out on the first two. (Would really love to get a hold of that color theory class, though, I'm definitely in need of it)

Thanks for doing this Jason.

[Lamp]

OK OK... despite my whining and complaining, I've managed to cut enough from my monthly budget to afford this, I think. I'm in. Damn you, Jason. Ramen and PB&J for the next month. woohoo! :D :D :D

[CecelyV]

Are we able to pay for the composition class yet? I want to make sure I didn't miss the link to the shop to pay for it.

[jag.med]

http://www.conceptartstore.com/stcl.html

that's the link, we aren't yet.

[jubjubjedi]

Stupid question... for those who were offered free vids during the Color Theory class due to the late start, any chance for a discount on this class? I hate to ask, just wondering...

[Liam Harvey]

Is there anyway to find out if the class will run well on my internet connection? i am aware there was a test version prior to the colour theory and Australian reveiws of the connection were not too stellar- that could have been, i supose during the playback though.

My parents are concerned that the streaming will cut out and not work, i would need them assurred before i can participate in the class.

I myself am confident it will work well enough.

[LostFayth]

Gerbil Fetus Run a speed test to New York, US. Link (http://www.speedtest.net/)

If I am right the server of Livestream should be located there.

If your download is good enough, the live stream should work just fine. I have a 6.06MB/s download now, with a lot of other internet stuff open. I think if you're able to hit at least 4.5 MB/s, you should be fine.

[Alex Chow]

Mr. Manley, is it possible for the list of future topics be posted before Sunday's composition class? In all likelihood, I can only afford one more of these sessions before having to pool money for something else and I want to make sure there isn't something even more appealing than this upcoming one :yayca:

[mimer]

i might be dense, but is there a link up that i missed for signing up and paying for this class yet? cant seem to locate it :)

[Jason Manley]

thanks you all!!!

We are working on the lists of future projects. It will be a few more weeks until we have them all in place. I think we will announce each months courses one month at a time to be sure we are accurate.


See you sunday!!


Jason

[garg]

Jason Manley> Thanks for these. I'll probably get this one as well.

I would be very, very pleased if these streaming videos were available to us for more than just one month after they are broadcast. How about making these downloadable, or available for 6 months, or forever? I will hate to lose all that information in just 30 days :(

Pretty please? :D :sungod:

[zenichi]

sorry if i miss earlier posts, "attended" the composition live stream (sort of by luck or accident when i stumble upon jason's facebook notice) two weeks ago, please correct me if i'm wrong, if i make payment for this coming composition class, i can come back and revisit the recordings for a month? just in case i couldnt secure a decent internet connect on sunday, or rather monday morning over this part of the world... thanks

[Idiot Apathy]

Ugh, hope you do these more often; been horrible timing for me so far :(

[ConceptArt.Org]

The Art of Composition streaming class is now available for purchase!
The link is below:
http://www.conceptartstore.com/artofco.html

See you this Sunday and happy learning!

[Liam Harvey]

Gerbil Fetus Run a speed test to New York, US. Link (http://www.speedtest.net/)

If I am right the server of Livestream should be located there.

If your download is good enough, the live stream should work just fine. I have a 6.06MB/s download now, with a lot of other internet stuff open. I think if you're able to hit at least 4.5 MB/s, you should be fine.

The link you provided showed that i had a download speed of 1.21mb/s and a ping of 323 ms, i am not entirely sure what that means exactly but it does seem short of your estimation.

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[matt_diecast]

schedule is coming...working on it with Melissa Lee and the crew. Some great ones are coming up over the next couple months. Expect to see at least one, if not two, courses per weekend for the rest of this month.

Damn! Good thing I'm back in fulltime employment as of Monday! Looking forward to seeing what's coming up.

[Brushcommander]

Shit, I'll not be able to afford it this time.... and next time...
Oh well

[Rist]

All I say about these live streams is it brings live workshops you would probably watch at events like Reverie to those who wouldn't have a dream to watch. I live a few thousand miles away from these places and would cost me over a grand to go to these. I'm having a great bargain watching these live streams. Sure the atmosphere and chance to meet potential employers is not there, but the chance to meet other artists and the chance to watch it again via the forums is. And the info shared is mind blowing. Beats any downloads. I'm glad this was made live stream.

[Jason Manley]

The link you provided showed that i had a download speed of 1.21mb/s and a ping of 323 ms, i am not entirely sure what that means exactly but it does seem short of your estimation.

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Go to livestream.com and click around on the videos...if you click the ones that stream about livestreams service those are in HD and will show u what to expect. I run a bit smaller than HD to help be sure we keep it running smoothly but that should show u.


j

[white beard]

Jason, I know that you are trying to raise funds for CA through the live lectures. But i think you should slow down. call me selfish or anything, but i don't think everybody here ( including me) can afford to spend 95 dollars per week.

[Yngling]

Perfect! At first I thought 'whoa, expensive', especially since I've just come back from vacation. But then again, hell, I pay a lot more for college and I wouldn't even dream of them touching this stuff in class, let alone as in-depth as I expect this to be. I haven't gotten any of the downloads so far, since I considered many of them a bit too 'specific', at least for someone in my stage of learning, but this is possibly the single most important fundamental for any visual artist. Fortunately, time and finances are on my side, so this promises to be a great opportunity. See you on Sunday!

[Astro1derboy]

Hey Jason,

These look to be great. I probably missed this and apologize in advance for the question if it's been dealt with already...

Are you planning to convert these live sessions into downloadable versions at some point? I cannot watch this live but am very interested to purchase a DL version I can watch/rewatch.

Thanks for all you and the crew do for our art community.

[Joshua.Crawford]

Is there a way for me to buy the file?
I imagine your not going to do it again anytime soon.I just didn't have the money then.
Like someone mentioned earlier, I think it would be great if these are posted sooner.I sadly can't afford the 95 bucks a pop as much as I want to attend them all.I really think they're all beneficial.

[asiri57]

What time it would be in Sri Lanka..?

[jpdelteso]

With this you´ll know what´s the time in Austin:

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=24

So, if you know the time in Austin, you´ll just have to calculate the difference with your local area.

[jag.med]

ready and waiting!

[Alex Chow]

ready and waiting!

Same.

Composition is my least taught subject in art as everyone tends to just go "WELL, GOOD COMPOSITION IS SOMETHING YOU JUST FEEL..." or something incredibly formulaic that I can't seem to apply correctly. I'm banking 100 dollars that my dark ages of bad compositions will end (or at least be alleviated), as I did for colour theory.

See you Sunday!

[ArtZealot]

Just got my golden ticket! looking forward to the class.

[Kawe]

purchased. I have high hopes :) been waiting for this ever since I saw the thing about the download version.

[Viradical]

I would love to pay for this class, and I would have loved to pay for the color theory class, but I have been booked for the past several weekends and will be for several weekends to come. I am definitely interested in partaking of any on-demand streaming options that may arise, thanks for all your efforts!

[Jack the R]

I think if you're able to hit at least 4.5 MB/s, you should be fine.

Thanks. I've got .67 mb/s download, and that's the fastest available in my area.

Oh well - guess I'll be hanging on to $300.

[Rist]

I am at about 2mb/s and I was fine. Very smooth and no hiccups. When people were moaning about problems I was alright.

[Mumph]

Just paid for the class, can´t wait!

[Dace]

Sorry I can't make this one. $95. back to back is rough for the wallet right now.

[Khakihat]

Man, these OL workshops have a vary bad way of sneaking up on me and my empty bank account. Will DVDs be printed or do I only have 30 days to log on?

[mimer]

alright, just bought this, really excited :)

stupid saturday, getting in the way of today and sunday :)

[tarngerine]

This will be available for 30 days afterwards, right? I have class until 2:30 PM, but if I pay for it, will I be able to watch the whole thing when I get home/later at a time of my choosing?

[silvestri99]

I'm like a lot of the others in that I have to work the weekends and won't be able to watch it live. If on demand is available or will be available where would I go to find it? That goes for the color theory class as well. Definitely something I'd love to see.

Thanks Jason for doing all this! Good information and I love ways to support the site!

[zenichi]

my speedtest.net result is only 1.64 (asia's average 4.2, global average 5.47), but from the free preview live class (i think it was for composition) that i've attended from jason, it was acceptable, save maybe a few seconds of lag in every 10 to 15 minutes interval. but nothing that you cant fill in the blanks with if you've been following the rational, logic or strain of thoughts of the "lecturer", so i guess there's no stopping you (no tech excuse) if you internet connection is not working at the preferred 4!

edit: for vista user outside of the states, can add an additional clock using the gadget menu and find central time or CDT time zone!

edit1: for cash strap members, what about the idea of pooling? 2 to 3 guys getting together at a local cafe that offer wifi?? not sure if this is allow considering the spirit of the course seems to be getting financial support for the CA site while advocating a more accessible and widespread sharing of art experience and info? the idea is sharing, hope i'm not giving ideas for someone to put up a class and "extort" out of jason and CA's effort... damn! the boon and curse of technology.

[ROCKNROLLA]

Just got my ticket to the rodeo! I haven't missed one yet and I don't plan on it. Thank god for the GI Bill. Jason are you guys planning on doing technical skill lectures? I would really like to see one on perspective.

[mc2mc2]

Man I'm on the fence about this one.
I really wanna attend cause my composition sucks...but $95 is a lot of money and I'm not sure if my connection will stream it smoothly...

[Klandestineone]

I swear I'm never going to catch any of these classes.

[Liffey]

Just got my ticket to the rodeo! I haven't missed one yet and I don't plan on it. Thank god for the GI Bill. Jason are you guys planning on doing technical skill lectures? I would really like to see one on perspective.

You should check out the Carl Dobsky downloads. :)

[Kazeth]

Go to livestream.com and click around on the videos...if you click the ones that stream about livestreams service those are in HD and will show u what to expect. I run a bit smaller than HD to help be sure we keep it running smoothly but that should show u.


j

Do you mean the ones that are in this link? http://www.livestream.com/procaster/video

I'm living in Japan, but I'm in vacations so no problem waking up at 2AM, just worried about the smoothness of streaming...

There isn't a possibility of upload a small test video from CA so everyone can test the connection?

PS: Sorry for the bad english, still learning :nohope:

[Art-n-Coffee]

This is depressing. I have that day off but my paycheck is going to: Rent, Car insurance, Cell phone, phone/internet/tv, PUD, gas to get to work, and food. so Ill have like $20 left over. :/

so now I cant do this. Do you guys make this available to purchase the video in the future. If not I just might cry.

[Zapp!]

will it be too late to pay for this tomorrow? I'll be out most of sunday, but I might be home about an hour before it starts and if I am I would love to sign up for this.

[Jason Manley]

nope...u can still cover tuition all the way until class time...and after actually as the video will be up for 30 days.

[Jason Manley]

The Live classes will not be sold as downloads. They are raw and unedited and the straight dope. I prefer to not risk them to the main stream torrents I am neck deep in the new technology upgrades and the online school, so I can't take the time right now even though I want to. The school schedule is more important than my download.

Regarding the not having the money...95 bucks? If you want it you will get it. It pissed me off to no end to be told that if I couldnt afford art school I didn't deserve it. I felt like art had been hijacked by the rich. That education cost me over 100k usd. 95 bucks I could do. 100k I couldn't. If you really want it you will find a way. Your path will be far easier than mine...that much I can guarantee. The next-gen atelier already proves that..as do the other things we have here for teaching and helping.

The reason these downloads and classes are cheap is because we did not think anyone should have to spend 100k to learn art....(ca's prices for educational content are still of the cheapest out there and most of what we can offer can't be found elsewhere as it is here). We will not be giving up on the downloads. We purposely priced these downloads cheap. The live classes are no different in that motivation.

So I hope you can make it.



I think that

[Line]

These lessons are a great idea.

I'd prefer to watch this live, and I am ready to pay right now, espacially this on on composition, it's the thing I have the most interest in right now, the only problem is that the time it's on I have to catch some Z's because 3 hours later it's work time for us here. Wouldn't a Saturday to Sunday thing be more convenient for most people?

In any case, damn mondays, I really wanted to attend this particular lecture.

[Kitten Poker]

Just wondering..... I bought this this morning with paypal, but I didn't get an entry code like I did with last weeks class, should I be worried? Is there someone specific I need to be asking about this? I emailed the shop people, but I'm not sure if they would be getting emails at the weekend. :op

[LostFayth]

Just wondering..... I bought this this morning with paypal, but I didn't get an entry code like I did with last weeks class, should I be worried? Is there someone specific I need to be asking about this? I emailed the shop people, but I'm not sure if they would be getting emails at the weekend. :op


If you do not get your password please follow these steps after checking your spam box and checking the .txt file with your confirmation email:

1. After you pay and get your order confirmation, you need to click the link to check the status, and then scroll to the bottom.
2. There is a box to enter your "Card or Account Number" that you used to pay for the class. Enter your card or account number info and click "Apply". ***NOTE: If you paid with Paypal rather than a credit card, then it asks you for your E-mail address instead.***
3. When the page reloads after clicking apply, there will be a blue "Download" button that appears under the class name (in the top right "Your Order" box of your order's summary).
4. Click the download button to get the password for the class.

That should do it.

[Zapp!]

nope...u can still cover tuition all the way until class time...and after actually as the video will be up for 30 days.

awesome, can't wait til tomorrow then

[Jason Manley]

Thanks you guys! About to get going on some things with Coro. Looking forward to tomorrow!


J

[Kitten Poker]

For LostFayth: Thankyou ^_^ That was very helpfull ^_^

[XuperNova]

Hi all, bought me seat this morning, just wondering has everyone gotten their confirmation and password yet?

[jag.med]

Hi all, bought me seat this morning, just wondering has everyone gotten their confirmation and password yet?

yes, its on the payment page right after it confirms you payed for it.

[Culo]

1pm CST = 11am PST correct?

[Emerald_Mara85]

Hoo boy 95 bucks (332 for me)...and I just found out about this...

gonna have to get the download...especially color theory.

I have to ask, what's this about 30 days only for download...does this mean after 30 days the download wouldn't be there anymore?

[garg]

Hoo boy 95 bucks (332 for me)...and I just found out about this...

gonna have to get the download...especially color theory.

I have to ask, what's this about 30 days only for download...does this mean after 30 days the download wouldn't be there anymore?

As far as I know, there is no download and it's streaming only and then after 30 days, the streaming will be gone as well.

I wish it was a download :(

[jag.med]

hmm, did we ever get those two free downloads?

[Liffey]

hmm, did we ever get those two free downloads?
I was wondering this too, same with the image library.

[mc2mc2]

Alright, just took the plunge and ordered the class...awaiting confirmation :D
Can't wait for tomorrow!

[Vaejoun]

Somehow you manage to do things on the days when I am not at home.

I would love to see a downloadable version or a DVD(Set?) about the two big classes.

I dont have internetbanking or credit card (just a common bank account) which makes it a little tricky to transfer money, especially when you are in a hurry and have to change it from € to $ (which costs around 12€ extra)

I think I am not the only one who would love to get this on DVD

[ArtZealot]

So i got my ticket, how do i log in and view the class? also what video player should i have installed? thanks.

[LostFayth]

I was wondering this too, same with the image library.

I think we have to wait some more. I mean, Jason has a lot of things to do. This new class, the new online school, arranging the tech for the site, probably work for the workshop. Also, he has to sleep, eat and be able to live away from his computer. We will get what he promised. :)

Vaejoun, you could make a PayPal account. I have a normal back account too. PayPal allows you to link your bank account to your PayPal account. It works like a charm. If you want to see it live I'm sorry to inform you PayPal has a confirmation method which takes a few days (they send you two small amounts of money which you need to verify your account with). But you could always tune in for the On Demand right? ;)

ArtZealot, Go to this (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=177) forum. You will be asked to enter a password. Do it so and you'll enter the forum. It will be in the post you see there. Make sure you have Java (http://www.java.com) and you'll be able to view it when Jason puts the player in a post in the forum.

[Liam Harvey]

Parents are cool with it! now i can buy me an entry! confirmation e-mails and password recieving dont take long do they? moving ahead with the purchase now. wheee!

[Stahr]

ordered, waiting for it to be reviewed...

[tomoscopic]

I've been waiting 45 minutes......anyone else waiting for their confirmation to come through?

[Liam Harvey]

confirmation waiting/ order is pending review.The email i did recieve is more like one i would get if i bought a physical item like a DVD or shirt. having only purchased the Downloads before, this struck me as odd.

[tomoscopic]

Gerbil, the problem is, if we're waiting for someone to process the authorisation, that may take some time, especially if there's a last minute rush.....but hopefully we'll be ok....but it's an anxious wait innit?!?

I simply can't take the stress of waiting anymore! I think I'll go the gym and come back and check later! LOL!

[garg]

haha! I bought it ;__;

I'm not a money tree, young lady!

[Liam Harvey]

Gerbil, the problem is, if we're waiting for someone to process the authorisation, that may take some time, especially if there's a last minute rush.....but hopefully we'll be ok....but it's an anxious wait innit?!?

I simply can't take the stress of waiting anymore! I think I'll go the gym and come back and check later! LOL!


Quite the truth. 10:25 pm over here so im gonna draw while i wait.:rocker:

[LostFayth]

To those waiting on a confirmation. Have you tried this already?


If you do not get your password please follow these steps after checking your spam box and checking the .txt file with your confirmation email:

1. After you pay and get your order confirmation, you need to click the link to check the status, and then scroll to the bottom.
2. There is a box to enter your "Card or Account Number" that you used to pay for the class. Enter your card or account number info and click "Apply". ***NOTE: If you paid with Paypal rather than a credit card, then it asks you for your E-mail address instead.***
3. When the page reloads after clicking apply, there will be a blue "Download" button that appears under the class name (in the top right "Your Order" box of your order's summary).
4. Click the download button to get the password for the class.

[killermachine]

hey i bought mine entry pass this morning but my order hasnt been approved yet an its been more then 5 hrs.its still pending confirmation im really worried i might miss this class..can someone help :(

EDIt: the money just got deducted so probably the order should get approved but its still showing pending...i dont understand :(

[slyve]

Worked perfectly, very excited to participate at this class :)

[Azazel]

To those waiting on a confirmation. Have you tried this already?

All I have on my Order Status page (aside from my address and order number) is a note that says:

- This order is pending review.
- Note: Your order is pending review. You will not be able to download items until your order is reviewed and approved. Please contact us if you have any questions.

And the only clickable buttons I have are 'contact us' and 'continue shopping'.

[mc2mc2]

I'm in the same boat as Azazel and the rest..

This is all I have on my order status page..
- This order is pending review.
- Note: Your order is pending review. You will not be able to download items until your order is reviewed and approved. Please contact us if you have any questions.

I purchased it last night too...and the class will be starting soon :O

[LostFayth]

Azazel Did you pay with a credit card or PayPal? And did you get an order confirmation in your email? Because there is a link in your email you need to be able to follow the steps. Click the link and scroll to the bottom and go to step two.

[Azazel]

Azazel Did you pay with a credit card or PayPal? And did you get an order confirmation in your email? Because there is a link in your email you need to be able to follow the steps. Click the link and scroll to the bottom and go to step two.

Payed with Visa and the email that I got only has a link that goes to the order status page that I mentioned previously.

[killermachine]

Azazel Did you pay with a credit card or PayPal? And did you get an order confirmation in your email? Because there is a link in your email you need to be able to follow the steps. Click the link and scroll to the bottom and go to step two.

i paid with VISA too and its already showing that the money has been deducted but the link in my email still shows pending order :((

[mc2mc2]

Haha same here except I paid with Mastercard. :/

[LostFayth]

Okay, If this doesn't work, I'm sorry. I'm not able to help you anymore if it doesn't, since I do not know what needs to be happened.

I got the status email with a link provided:
747131

Then I was sent to a new page where I could enter my email. In your case that should be a credit card number, i guess.

747133

Hope it works!

[Liam Harvey]

same ship as Azazel and the others. perhaps we did something inncorect in our payment?

[Stahr]

I'm in the same boat, pending...
payed with VISA, filled in al details.

LostFayth - there is nothing of that sort on the page, probably due to the pending for review.

[mc2mc2]

LostFayth : We get the same email, but when we click the link...there's no download box and our order's still pending..:(

Thanks though

[mc2mc2]

opps double post

[LostFayth]

I see. I'm sorry I couldn't be of any help. I do all my payments with PayPal so my knowledge of credit card based payments are very meager. I hope you guys can make it to the class!

[Liam Harvey]

has anyone who payed Visa been able to get their password?

[killermachine]

the difference here is that your order got approved while our order hasnt been approved yet
"Gerbil fetus: has anyone who payed Visa been able to get their password?"
i would like to know that too

[slyve]

i did mine with visa and it worked. I followed every steps , clicked on the link in my confirmation email. Then got at the bottom of the page, enter my credit card number again, and then clicked on the blue rectangle DOWNLOAD (top right corner)
I downloaded the txt file and got the password.
Maybe it s your browser that is not working, try a different one maybe

[master.mind]

killermachine : no still pending, but for the colour- class two weeks ago it was exactely the same and one hour before the class started i received the link... so don`t worry

[Azazel]

i did mine with visa and it worked. I followed every steps , clicked on the link in my confirmation email. Then got at the bottom of the page, enter my credit card number again, and then clicked on the blue rectangle DOWNLOAD (top right corner)
I downloaded the txt file and got the password.
Maybe it s your browser that is not working, try a different one maybe

Just an update then, also used Vista, opened the link in Firefox 3.5.2 and IE 8.

[Liam Harvey]

there is still time so thats good, but the wait is nerve wracking.
if it happens it happens, if i miss out i miss out and can still veiw it as per the on demand.

[killermachine]

but u wont b able to do active discussion which will a downside of watching it later

[Liam Harvey]

yeah...do you need a microphone for that?

[Stahr]

what I know it's chat based

[zenichi]

for reference, i pay with mastercard, friday 10pm CDT time, i receive my email notification and receipt number, but we dont get the blue link, instead we'll be ask to check back on the status of our purchase. i did just that in the next few hours and got the "pending review" message same as everyone else. then i check back again around 2pm CDT time saturday, and guess what, the pending review thing disappeared and i've got the enter your credit number to get the blue "download" button on the upper right corner to download my AOC text file for password. so it does work, but hope you guys get yours before the class starts. cheers

edit: please refrain from posting at the thread for Q&A at the beginning of the class, try to use the chat system provided, else it might crash the server and we might have to stay on for more than the 1pm to 5 pm time frame....

edit1: another thing, check spam or junk mail. but i'm guessing credit card payment will take longer than paypal, especially if you're card was not issued inside the states?

edit2: for reference, not sure if it works, but i've call up my credit card company and found out the approval code for the transaction and send it to CA store... but i'm not sure if there's anyone working during the weekend to receive the mail...

[domo arigato]

okay, class is starting soon, and I don't mean to freak out here...but damn..no password yet and I'm sure I followed all the steps.

[Nrx]

"PayPal is constantly working to protect our members against fraud. We review every transaction before it is approved, and we may block a payment when we detect a potential risk.

Our reviews take into account every aspect of a transaction, including looking at both parties. These decisions help us maintain the integrity of our payments network in the same way as other payment processors: by declining transactions with an unacceptable level of risk.

While our fraud measures occasionally block a legitimate payment, to maintain overall security, we cannot overturn any decisions about an individual transaction.

If you decide to continue this transaction using a different funding source, please note that the associated risk levels have not been decreased."

for bank transfer.. seriously what the fuck

[Azazel]

"PayPal is constantly working to protect our members against fraud. We review every transaction before it is approved, and we may block a payment when we detect a potential risk.

Our reviews take into account every aspect of a transaction, including looking at both parties. These decisions help us maintain the integrity of our payments network in the same way as other payment processors: by declining transactions with an unacceptable level of risk.

While our fraud measures occasionally block a legitimate payment, to maintain overall security, we cannot overturn any decisions about an individual transaction.

If you decide to continue this transaction using a different funding source, please note that the associated risk levels have not been decreased."

for bank transfer.. seriously what the fuck

Thing I don't understand is that I believe the regular downloads use PayPal and they go through for me within minutes at the most. I press the button, I get my download. And why would it need to verify my payment since the money's already gone from my account?

[zenichi]

Thing I don't understand is that I believe the regular downloads use PayPal and they go through for me within minutes at the most. I press the button, I get my download. And why would it need to verify my payment since the money's already gone from my account?

money deducted from account doesnt mean that the transaction is approved, it simply means that the financial institution/ credit card company has block the requested amount (hence the "deduction" from your account). when the transaction is approved, there will be an approval code generated and only then will the money be on its way to the vendor (CA store). this is for online banking and credit card, not sure how pay pals works...

[Azazel]

money deducted from account doesnt mean that the transaction is approved, it simply means that the financial institution/ credit card company has block the requested amount. when the transaction is approved, there will be an approval code generated and only then will the money be on its way to the vendor (CA store). this is for online banking and credit card, not sure how pay pals works...

Actually, that makes sense and answers something I've been wondering for a while. I noticed that the money had been removed from my total but there was nothing my transaction history for the specific withdrawl.

[Nrx]

i was at the last 2 classes and have bought a ton of ca downloads before too, never had a issue, maybe they thing me and mb are trying to rip them off, nvm got it through a card now anyway, but damn that pissed me off

[Liam Harvey]

im kind of antsy now...grr...

[Stahr]

hm, nothing here yet, maybe it takes some time for transfer between sweden and the US. I hope i can attend the class when it starts.
Who should we contact if this don't get solved?

[killermachine]

i want to know that too

[crusadex]

I just got it with visa , and i was able to download all the info , but when i try to enter the password it says is not the correct password. This could be that the class did not start yet ,may be?
nick

[Liam Harvey]

still pending....c'mon *crosses fingers*

Should have bought this earlier, perhaps i would have recieved the password earlier.

[mc2mc2]

Still pending here too T_T

[zenichi]

I just got it with visa , and i was able to download all the info , but when i try to enter the password it says is not the correct password. This could be that the class did not start yet ,may be?
nick

nope, the password should work, i've pop by the post to check on my password and it works.

[Reedux]

Everyone should just relax, there's still 45minutes left. Plenty of time, I'm sure Jason is aware of the situation as well and is trying to solve it.

Go fetch an ice-cream and a notebook while you wait.
Worrying won't get you anywhere =)

[zenichi]

Everyone should just relax, there's still 45minutes left. Plenty of time, I'm sure Jason is aware of the situation as well and is trying to solve it.

Go fetch an ice-cream and a notebook while you wait.
Worrying won't get you anywhere =)

totally agree, but i can also sympathies with everyone who's without a password yet, cos i was feeling super anxious too, and that was more than 24 hours ago!!! finger crossed everyone!

[Liam Harvey]

Everyone should just relax, there's still 45minutes left. Plenty of time, I'm sure Jason is aware of the situation as well and is trying to solve it.

Go fetch an ice-cream and a notebook while you wait.
Worrying won't get you anywhere =)

The Optimist and Pessimist are fighting for dominance of my will over here. It's all sorts of epic.

[killermachine]

where should i get ice cream from at 11 in night ??? :P

[Stahr]

Have anyone contacted Jason about the issue?

[Cha Chi]

Have anyone contacted Jason about the issue?

I tried, but I don't think my message reached him.

[L0bo]

can someone predict, if i would buy the workshop now, would i be able to attend ?

[Reedux]

L0bo - Impossible to know right now.
We don't know what is causing it, some have no issues while some can't get the approval.
It could be an overload, it could depend on which country you're from, what bank you're using.

[maks444]

I dont know LObo ....i m wondering if i just paid for something i wont get ....15 minutes left i paid an hour ago ....still waiting for something else then a Pending aprooval message

[Liam Harvey]

the final countdown....

[Daschmidt]

payd 4 hours ago and still not getting the pass :(

[L0bo]

ok. thx though
gl to all didnt get it yet.

[Liam Harvey]

payd 4 hours ago and still not getting the pass :(

same here.

[killermachine]

more then 7 hrs for me

[Azazel]

Just out of curiousty, is anyone from the US or that timezone experiencing this problem. I'm starting to wonder if Yahoo isn't literally trying to contact my bank (which won't open for another 6 hours) and I've noticed that a lot people with issues seem to be from outside the US.

[Stahr]

I was thinking the same thing azazel, hopefully it's not a bank issue... I'm from sweden, gmt+2 here.

[Tyrune]

Soo, I paid 5 hours ago with Mastercard and still nothing...

[Liam Harvey]

im in west australia and it is almost 2am monday here...which is when the class starts.IF this is a bank issue i swear i may have a hissy fit.

[maks444]

i ve used paypall before and i've never waited for an approval more then minutes, i used visa, i m in Canada ....And if they try contacting your bank or credit card company for 95 buck i would be very surprised they usually dont require that much security for such a small amount .....getting frustrated here

[killermachine]

i ve used paypall before and i've never waited for an approval more then minutes, i used visa, i m in Canada ....And if they try contacting your bank or credit card company for 95 buck i would be very surprised they usually dont require that much security for such a small amount .....getting frustrated here

i feel your pain..im in india..its almost time and nthing's happenin :wtf:

[tomoscopic]

Back from the gym and still Pending?!? Oh No! Guys, we aint gonna make it but I just sent Jason a PM and I mentioned the probs involved more peeps than me - due in main to paying by credit card. Those missing out ought to PM him too so he understands the extent of the problem and so it can be rectified for next time.

[master.mind]

dammit

[Liam Harvey]

it has begun....
:\:O>:{>:|:nohope::(:[>:|:bs::sadcheerleader::vodka1::vodka1::

[mc2mc2]

It's been over 12 hours for me and still nothing :(

:( missing out

[Azazel]

Well...shit.

Guess I'd better get back to work, which actually isn't that odd for me at 3:30am fortunately.

[maks444]

yes it has .....and a lot of people gott left behind ....frustration as passed now ....more like anger now .....i really hope somebody is going to make up for that ....i planned my day around this

[tomoscopic]

Oh guys, if only yas were a bit closer to my neighbourhood, I'd raid my freezer n invite yas round for a bit of Ben and Jerries......

[Al-Chemist]

Really disapointed !! i also planned my day around this :(

[aefx]

it has begun....
:\:O>:{>:|:nohope::(:[>:|:bs::sadcheerleader::vodka1::vodka1::
Eh? It just shows the channel owner has prohibited viewing...

[Liam Harvey]

Oh guys, if only yas were a bit closer to my neighbourhood, I'd raid my freezer n invite yas round for a bit of Ben and Jerries......

im raiding my fridge.:vodkamachine:

"Eh? It just shows the channel owner has prohibited viewing..."

I was saying that in relation to the time and that the class would/should have begun.

[sparkycn]

can't view the live, "sorry, the channel owner has prohibited viewing from this web page"
can someone tell me how can I solve this?

[Cha Chi]

Is there anyone here who has access who could tell Jason that there are lost ones? I'm sure they can do SOMETHING if they know.

[Aphotic Phoenix]

Same for everyone sparkycn...apparently hasn't started yet

[Stahr]

looks like i'm missing this also :(

[master.mind]

:vodkamachine:

cheers Gerbil Fetus

[tomoscopic]

Good for you, Gerbil! Any chance of tellin me what ya got in there? We might as well make up our own entertainment!!!

[tomoscopic]

I got curried chicken drumsticks!

[killermachine]

well apprently some 109 lucky ppl are all over that topic an we are sittin here :(

[white beard]

maybe the reason the lecture hasn't start yet is because they are still sorting out the credit card issue? I still remember myself freaking out 1 day b3fore the color theory lecture when i haven't gotten my password yet.

[Reedux]

I find it amusing and a bit depressing to see how fast this thread is spiraling towards despair.

Those who has passwords say they cant view the stream, "it has been prohibited from viewing by the channel owner" This would be Jason and his team.

Now this might just mean they are working on fixing all of this as we speak.
Making sure nobody gets left behind.

I'd like to think so.

[L-DLS]

guys if u wanna record this

go to jingproject.com and download the app, its free for 5 mins of recording.. just capture the screen and record...

[master.mind]

yeah just recieved the mail yeahhhhhhhhhhhh

[tomoscopic]

Cheers for that LD! But I'll have my curried chicken first....

[ArtZealot]

Yea im in the video room and can't see anything either. it says the owner has prohibited viewing. im assuming by now that everyone sees the same thing.

[killermachine]

FINALLY!!!all the best to other please check your emails too

[mc2mc2]

yes! just got approved too! Go check your order status guys!

[Reedux]

See, I told you so! :)

[zenichi]

no need for recording. the next 30 days, go thru the on demand and make sure it is stuck in your brain and learn it by heart!!!

try not to refresh or relaod the player, i'm sure we will all be notify when things are ready, i guess i can forgo any chance of sleeping tonight, i'll just have to go thru tomorrow on red bulls.

finish chocolate bar, milk, coffee, soda... will save the red bulls for tomorrow... it's 2:19am monday
:)

[Liam Harvey]

makes me think of the Simpsons episode where the osaka flu hits town and the desperate public go to Dr.Hibberts and he says that the only thing he can give them is a placebo.
"where do we get this placebos?"
"maybe theres some in this truck!"
which in their maddened panic they tip the truck over too late realising it contained swarms of killer bees.
"im cured! i mean-ouch!"

[Front_NC]

seams like soved out issue with emails.. now we need only video stream

[Liam Harvey]

I find it amusing and a bit depressing to see how fast this thread is spiraling towards despair.

Those who has passwords say they cant view the stream, "it has been prohibited from viewing by the channel owner" This would be Jason and his team.

Now this might just mean they are working on fixing all of this as we speak.
Making sure nobody gets left behind.

I'd like to think so.

i was thinking that too.:mod::yayca: ???

[Azazel]

Alrighty, got my little window on the status page!

[Daschmidt]

aproved!!!woohoo.....go check guys

[Cha Chi]

I still haven't gotten my mail. Maybe it takes longer time for the Europeans?

[Tyrune]

Email received here !!! :D

[Liam Harvey]

gosh well now i feel silly.

[Azazel]

I still haven't gotten my mail. Maybe it takes longer time for the Europeans?

I haven't received an email either but refreshing my Order Status page gave me the opportunity to finalise the process which I couldn't do earlier.

[master.mind]

@ Cha Chi you have to refresh the order status site.... then a little window appears on the bottom

[Stahr]

I'm in!

[Cha Chi]

I've tried that too. Nothing.

[killermachine]

Phew!!i thought i was going to miss it ..now that im in only waiting for class to start..ppl keep checking your mails..

[Al-Chemist]

my payment had been approved but still waiting for the password.....:(

[killermachine]

there is download button in top right of page look for it

[mc2mc2]

The password is in the little text file you download on the order status page after you enter your email/credit card number

[Reedux]

For everyone who has been approved but do not have the download button available in your top right corner, go to THIS POST

http://conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2381768&postcount=121

If you paid by CARD you will have to enter your Credit number again.
YOU WILL NOT BE CHARGED FOR THIS.

Enjoy :D

[Cha Chi]

Am I the only one who's payment hasn't been approved?

[maks444]

no Cha chi ...im also still waiting

[Al-Chemist]

Thanks KillerMachine you are my hero :)

[Cha Chi]

YAY! Finally!
Just keep waiting guys, Jason won't leave anyone behind! I love these guys!

[maks444]

just won me back as a fan thanks guys

[Front_NC]

well... we still need video stream. Do you think they r solving that payment issue and then we'll start?

[Cha Chi]

well... we still need video stream. Do you think they r solving that payment issue and then we'll start?

I think so, yes. They won't leave anyone behind.

[L-DLS]

hmm guess its gonna be for two pm lol.. error still

[Front_NC]

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=165488 use this link to get video

[L-DLS]

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=165488http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=165488


here is the correct link

[sparkycn]

finally!!!!yeah

[aefx]

In case anyone is still sitting at the "has prohibited this channel screen", click the icon in the middle. It has started.

[dashinvaine]

Very nice opening pictures. The Draper, Waterhouse, Delaroche and Friedrich ones are among my all-time favourite artworks, I do believe they are even better in the flesh.

[ROCKNROLLA]

I can't get the code to download. It says the item is no longer available for download. What do I do?!?!

[Jason Manley]

kvan i just sent u a pm.


jason

[Jasonwclark]

Coro is bringin' it so gloriously right now with the storyboard comps!

Class is totally worth it already, and we're only like an hour in.

:yayca:

[Alex Chow]

That was awesome. I especially liked how Coro explained the uses of compositional tools in characters, vehicles, and weapons.

Being told to do master copies is one thing but without knowledge of what to look for, that's not really productive in the end other than blind copying. Everything in the lecture just opened my eyes on what to look for in compositions. That will certainly aid me in studying compositions and, eventually, place them into my own works.

[master.mind]

thanks a lot Coro and Jason and all the guys behind it! It was awesome!!

[el coro]

whew, that was fun. thanks to everyone who showed up. i hope you guys enjoyed it!
c36

[Liam Harvey]

First a big thank you to what was a legendary show of devotion and Teaching.
may i ask why the class was delayed and how you recyified that so many users had not yet recieved their entry password yet?

O h man this info is just burned into my brain.

Thanks Again!

[TimiB]

Thank you!

[jag.med]

awesome job guys! this even makes the color theory class more understandable. thanks for the acronym too!

[mc2mc2]

Hmm...I was reviewing the on demand videos and it seems like the beginning of the lecture is missing.

I think when it was live, Jason started by talking about rhythm, but in the on demand videos, it starts out with variety...

According to the colour theory thread, that stream has the same problem..

Btw..Thanks Jason and Coro for the awesome class! Very informative!
I'll have to review the videos again and again for it to really sink in.

O yea , and thank you for waiting till everyone had access to the stream before starting the lecture this morning :D

[sebdrew]

I think there is more missing. For example I can't find the second part by Jason where he was talking about the linear Designs... I had to stop watching there yesterday... Maybe more missing after it?

[zenichi]

Hmm...I was reviewing the on demand videos and it seems like the beginning of the lecture is missing.

I think when it was live, Jason started by talking about rhythm, but in the on demand videos, it starts out with variety...

According to the colour theory thread, that stream has the same problem..

Btw..Thanks Jason and Coro for the awesome class! Very informative!
I'll have to review the videos again and again for it to really sink in.

O yea , and thank you for waiting till everyone had access to the stream before starting the lecture this morning :D

is the on demand video up? cos... i dose off in the last hour or so :bashful:

[JEQ]

Last night, it seemed like the end of the lecture where Jason talked about the evolution of composition was missing. A big storm rolled through the area and knocked out my internet, so I hope I'm not out of luck for seeing the rest.

[Cyclop3000]

Last night, it seemed like the end of the lecture where Jason talked about the evolution of composition was missing. A big storm rolled through the area and knocked out my internet, so I hope I'm not out of luck for seeing the rest.

It's also missing from the on demand list...a lot of it is missing actually...some of the beginning, a part in the middle about linear design, and that last historical bit... Can you guys check this out please!

[Mumph]

Thank you very much Jason and Coro and everyone else involved, it was a great!

[aaro_n]

it was incredibly fun, and insanely insightful. can't wait for future courses

[mc2mc2]

is the on demand video up? cos... i dose off in the last hour or so :bashful:

Yes the on demand videos are up, but it seems that bits and pieces of the lecture may be missing :(

Edit: well now I can't seem to connect to the channel. Maybe they're fixing it :):yayca:

[Jason Manley]

Thanks for your patience...meeting with livestream today. If they do not get this solved I am switching services. Have had enough of the buggy bugs. Soon...will update as soon as meeting is done with what the solutions are.


Jason

[Jason Manley]

First a big thank you to what was a legendary show of devotion and Teaching.
may i ask why the class was delayed and how you recyified that so many users had not yet recieved their entry password yet?

O h man this info is just burned into my brain.

Thanks Again!


We are still learning the new tools and I thought we had it all right and class time came and I didn't. Zack thankfully got it all working for us. Thanks Zack! To rectify coro and I did about two hours extra of lecture and presentation. It was only supposed to be four hours and ended up closer to six I think.

Calling livestream now...will let u guys know how that works out.


Jason

[mimer]

awesome class, can wait to review all the material again, hope everything works out with livestream so that we can see the full lecture on demand :)

no worries on the initial bugges before the class got started, ive had lecturers in uni who were more inept at plugging in an overhead projector, the fact that i can sit in sweden and take part in a class like this still blows my mind, even when i have to wait a bit longer than advertised :)

Besides, coro drew a monkey, all is forgiven.

[karma militia]

my favorite painting...

(well close enough)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/karma_police/waterhouse_1024-768.jpg

[Kawe]

hello, it was mentioned that there would be image downloads for this and the colour theory lecture. did I miss them or are they just not up yet?

[Theking78]

Jason any news from your meeting?

[Jason Manley]

I need another 24 hours. They are looking into the issue. This is the first reported error of this so I will stay on them to get it solved asap aka right away aka like yesterday!


j

[Rist]

QUESTION: Are the forums still accessible after the 30 days? Is it just the video stream that stops?