Team Chow II: Team Baguette

[smokenmirrors]

so the Baguette brothers are back in effect! although 2 men down. Power playas DanielC and D@niel are busy bodys so theyll be sitting this one out. My main man Vorace and my humble self will be handling this bad/good boy chow!

let the games begin! :yayca:

[smokenmirrors]

So to set up our beginnings: Were shooting for 4 portraits (full body? per the prompt example?)

Race: Human and Elf

Setting: European old forest

Running Aesthetic base: Warhammer

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/armiesofWAR/TheAssaultonLothern.jpg

[smokenmirrors]

warming up with some elf sketchery.....*fart*

[Burtzum]

Glad to see that Baguette is back. Even if you are only half a loaf this time. Get cookin! Can't wait to see what you've got in the oven. Take a bite out of the cliche genre! Rise to the challenge!

[Vorace]

Hehe interesting ideas Smokken!

I worked on one of your face. I tought it might be cool to have a mohawk/brutal amerindian look and feel for the elf?

I did also a sketch for the human. I had in mind some kind of ranger with medium armor. I was a bit inspired by Robin hood, especially for the hat :).

i think we could give them a grim and dirty look even for the ''good'' version.
For the workflow, i suggest to throw some ideas for the characters for some days, and then we could each work on a different character and different side, and when we are done we complete the portrait of the other. Also it would be cool to do real collabs, painting over each other stuff and not just giving crit :)!

Some idea for the evil version :
-same characters after the black death (the plague)
-same characters but undead version
-demonic versions (possessed)
-Classic evil overlord look

for the style :

warhammer style = lot of small details, belts, trincklets, talismans, runes, skulls everywhere even for the good guys :P, somewhat realistic proportions and look for the anatomy for big armor, not to flashy, but really brutal and powerfull. blood and dirt :)

[smokenmirrors]

yessssssssssss! freshness! love the details on the human! I gots some blue sky (free sketch) sessions to add in a bit. But I suppose we have to eventually start narrowing down our scope of characters ie: story/personality.

I love the "possesed" idea to get the "evil" versions of our good characters and likewise I whole heartily agree with the pushing the degree of collab as far as we can.

...

just some ideas for story/characters:

Warrior priest: heavy tomes, strung with battle relics and vials of holy powders/liquids/ungents.

Evil version seems pretty cake: loses faith and immerses her/himself in the dark powers.

Elvin Ranger: archaic armor, somewhat organic but with sharp edges. Ranged weaponry, arm mounted crossbows... has pet crow/wolf/falcon (i suppose we should try to steer away from any drizzit (r.a.salvatore) action) earth tones, coppery armor, dull sheen. Work in some feathered costume elements, animal pelts and some antlers.........

Evil version: NOW isnt an "evil" elf an ork or goblin???? well I think we can go any number of routes with a "dark" elf look. Possessed to boot!

also it would be fun to push the "opposites" ie: good versions appear healthy and robust... while the evil are wasting away and sickly (plague) but no less commanding.....

so some more open sketch sessions plus source examples before we pick the characters to begin illustrating, and I say we go for the "good" examples first.... then demonize each others concepts!!

sketches coming

[xinranliu]

Hello guys
I'd like to join your team if you don't mind taking a beginner under your wings :)

[Vorace]

great ideas Smokken!!

hey Ronald, i'll answer you as soon as I got the answer from Smokken!

some ref based on our description for the elf (didnt find any ref for a very ''organic'' armor :( )

I think we should also define something to hold them togueter (style-wise). They are all living and fighting in the forest, but maybe something more than that. Maybe they are each based/inspired by an animal for their look and feel... or maybe they they all have some similar details etc or just really push foward the forest influence ?

also it would be fun to push the "opposites" ie: good versions appear healthy and robust... while the evil are wasting away and sickly (plague) but no less commanding.....
totally with you!!

[smokenmirrors]

animal refs. I like the idea of infusing animal qualities/features into the character.... and likewise really bringing out the animal in the demon versions... hmm...

in any case Im down with the pumas, ravens, lions, tigers and some baboon action........be fun to come up with faces based off these animals. likewise I included some random elf/ foresty characters.... some j.sweet, v. kovacs and some warhammer action... i think c.kopinski and maybe p.daiton... :P

now to keep these characters togther... are we imagining them on some type of quest togther... ie: lotr.... or just different characters coexisiting in the forest?

... for the elf to try to steer away from the "fair ones" stereotype, and because im def. down with your mohawk suggestion seems like a "punk" elf is on order. Easy to do with the warhammer aesthetic also given the amount of trinkets and belted items we can string on him.... I think the difficult part is being able to give him just enough edge to look fresh but no so much hell be confused as evil. Obviously juxt opposed to our demon version it will be clear as day, but I think we also have to make sure that when seen alone he can still be a "good" guy.

[smokenmirrors]

heres an idea... what about "elven punk!?" maybe elven warrior punk.... elven thief punk... and on and on.

just seems like that would be a unique aesthetic and ripe full of fresh imagery: ref. japanese eccentric punk style....

also to weave in a bit more story/connection to our human character... maybe hes a bounty hunter.... or enforcer (police) thats tracking down our elven troublemaker....

lil elven teen angst and fighting the man... although he/shes 3 times the age of the human... still a kid by elven standards. :P

just an idea...

[DIMAGYAN]

interesting ideas! i like the direction you are going.Looking forward for the concepts.

[smokenmirrors]

drew these a few days ago, but didnt scan them in, partly cause my pencils feel like theyve a little too much weak sauce on the page.... which is only to say that my mind is now racing towards the afore mentioned ideas and really tweaking them into that direction. in any case, today is crank time for some high elven punk action. :P

[xinranliu]

hai guys moar sketchezzz

I like the brutality idea. I remember studying Beowulf in grade 8 and what one learns from the tale is that "there's good in evil and evil in good". Blurring the line between the good and the evil archetypes could be a good way to break the stereotypes. But I think it's also important to find some way to make the distinction between the two evident, through perhaps the use of colors and symbolism (blue vs red, vile green vs noble purple, skulls vs holy stuff, straight line vs crooked line, etc?).

let's make some epic stuff

[smokenmirrors]

welcome to the team brotha! and excellent tribal action going on!
heres some punk source... even if we dont go that route, i just had to get it out of my system. :P

[xinranliu]

wo let's try to integrate that jap punk style into a high fantasy setting

[smokenmirrors]

thats exactly what Im talking about! :P

i was aiming for the eccentricity of the style...

that is instead of "bullet" belts, we maybe have crossbow bolt belts..... instead of zippers.... we use buttons and clasps......etc.

we make it old world high fantasy punk....

[Vorace]

haha loving these punks, some really nice ideas for accessories.

A bit more tought about the animal symbols idea : maybe the elf could be more associated with all birds (Especially prey bird), the war-priest with all felines (some big and huge lion mane, with a feral look, etc), and the last character related to wolves or maybe monkey (because those baboon in your reference sheet are just awesome haha).

I like the idea of a ''young'' and rebel elf. But I think it would be easier to make them as an united group (instead of one of the character hunting the other). Maybe the war priest is there to ''convert'' the elf to his more powerfull religion? Or he try to learn the way of the wild by living with this elven punk.

I think for now we have a lof of ref for the elven punk-rebel-etc, maybe we just need to find a bit more stuff for the priest and the new character.

For the third character : I think we should do a female. Every high fantasy setting has sexy females :D.
We have a ranger and a priest, maybe she could be some kind of magic user. Not a weak magician, but a real fury, specialised in close-combat using her magic power.

[Vorace]

ok I did a fast concept art for the elf punk, based on the last discussions. I directly painted over the pants of one of the japanese punk girl.
My lunch time is over for now, but tonight will try to find ref for the warpriest!

[smokenmirrors]

ingenious composite action Vorace!

i did some quick silouttes of the elvin character type. will do more... and then some human action....

by the by.... what race is the fem mage going to be??

[xinranliu]

ugh my lines are getting wavy =_= gotta sleep

[xinranliu]

this might be interesting
i got this picture i took at the local otaku convention last week and painted over it

if u guys want the psd i have a few layers of different stuff

[Mat Kaminski]

Awesome, medieval punk! :D Keep it up guys!

[JessiBean]

You guys seem to have this all well in hand, but I wanted to share this one link, it has TONS of amazing costume and texture that reminds me of the look you are aiming for:
http://www.erntefashionsystems.com/sections/imageArchive/index.html

Great work, guys! :teeth:

[Vorace]

wow thanks for the link!! just used it to collect new ref :)

im a bit in a hurry so not a big post of comments (will try to post more tonight)

nice jobs guys, I suggest we try to find a good base for each 3 character for this sunday, so we could start on the real portrait.

I was thinkin Elf ranger = birds, brutal priest = felines, furs etc, maybe the mage/warlock could be associated with reptiles? It could give a nice feminine look, with a lot of pattern, curves and slick look.
gathered some ref :

[xinranliu]

she's got to be smoking hot mmk :)
we're heading toward the right direction!

[Vorace]

nice digi sketch ! I like a lot her headgear and face!

I started something more final for the elf portrait since I think the concept is the more defined. I added some stuff based on smokken's silouhettes (especially the feather covered arm). Was talking with Ronaldliu on msn so I sent him the portait to continue it.

I'll continue to merge our different concepts for the warpriest and the mage. I think these 2 needs a bit more concept job before going to the final of the good version.

I think it's important (and fun) that all 3 of us work on each others stuff. So each portraits will really be a true collaborative work :)

[xinranliu]

^ what vorace sent me ^
working on it atm, i'll update once i've done my pass

[xinranliu]

bump
smoken i'll need your email or msn to send you the bigger files :)

[smokenmirrors]

BADASS!!! brosefs! sorry that ive been out of the loop for the last couple days. Went out to the wilderness to visit my mom... got limited access... iN any case love the elf action and Ronald: pm'd you my contact info. Isnt it in my profile though??? hmmmm...

I did get to work on some more human sillouttes and then Ill bust a couple for the fem mage. Havent done this type of character setup (sillos), hence why Im busting them out. :P Fantastic work brothas!

will post soon.

[Vorace]

concept I did based on our different ideas for the warpriest

I may try tomorrow to include more feline aspect into his face and look (a more feral face maybe) what do you think guys?

I think we are approaching something fun for the priest, the mage still need some more solid ideas! Maybe to avoid human and elf, the mage could be a nymph/dryad, with a skin similar to the tree's bark, or with flowers and plant on her kness and shoulder, something like this?

[xinranliu]

condensed ideas

[xinranliu]

btw awesome sketches for the warpriest
i like:

head: 1 or 4
torso: 2 or 4
arms: 4 and 2
legs: 1

[smokenmirrors]

you guys are cranking! My apologies again for being temporarily off the grid. But I did get some mountain air so im feeling quite refreshed and ready to rock and roll. Heres some for the warrior preist. Also i know that team thundercats has gone down the animal inspired/hybrid characters... so i think we should be careful how much we go down that route.....

Vorace: funny that even though you said you may not have that much time to put into the team chow when we first got started: YOU are AS EVER A MACHINE! beautiful work brosef!

and Ronald: awesome contributions as well.

Ive got to put some elbow grease in this as you both are putting me to shame.

:P

[smokenmirrors]

and some female mage action.... next stage a bit of what Vorace has been doing so beautifully with the details and fully fleshed out bidness.... :)

[Vorace]

hehe cool stuff guys!
I suggest we choose this friday (14th) as a deadline for a final concept for the good version of the mage and the warpriest. It will give us 2 weeks to do the final 6 portraits. By working in a good collaborative work, im sure we could do it.

Dont be afraid to say wich concept you think is good and wich is not! :)

Interesting silouhettes Smokken, I especially like the priest's weapon and the 3 mage silouhette. Nice stuff Ronald too! This serpent tongue could be a killer idea for the evil version!

I think as long as our character are not half-animal half human, but rather human (or elf whatever) with animal related accessories, we will be different enough of super team thundercats.

I did some head/upper body design for the mage, will scan them after job later. Will try to do some more concepts for the characters tonight.
Also, even if the concepts are not finals, we could start to search for interesting poses for the portraits. Something dynamic but clear enough to see a good part of the design.

Come on guys, I want to see over 9000 concepts ideas till friday :)!!! yes we can! haha

[Troubadour]

needs moar buttflaps. lovin the work guys.

[Vorace]

hehe thx!

some sketches for the mage-reptile-kick-ass-fighter-sexy-whatever girl

[smokenmirrors]

some war priest takes... working on some digi follow ups now.. but the look I was envisioning was a take off Vorace's concepts, but perhaps adding some more elements that make him more "preist" .... ie: MONOCLE! hmm.... scholar warrior!? :)

[Adrian Wilkins]

hey doods, just wanted to throw in some words that might help / show my appreciation ect :)

vorace: You've got a recognizable sense of giving your characters unique designs really enjoyable to look at your drawings!

smokenmirrow: this last batch is really impressive! especially with the last one I love the strong facial expression and the way you captured kind of an personality within him

ronaldliu: try to focus a bit more on the anatomy, I know those are just sketches but it helps to sell the concept! :)

really an honor ro compete with you 3 guys!

keep it up!

AW

[smokenmirrors]

why thankyou Mr. Wilkins! right back at ya!

heres a the priest a bit more developed....

[xinranliu]

Adrian Wilkins: true, thanks

Nice smoken!

[smokenmirrors]

looking good, lookin good!

heres a pass at the mage with some cues taken from the both of my baguette brosefs... feel like I can push the "reptile" influence a bit more.... more to come.... :)

[Vorace]

nice stuff guys!!

thanks Adrian!

Smokken, the monocle is a good idea, It gives a more ''wise/scholar'' look mixed with the more wild outfit. I like a lot your second pencil sketch, it gives the impression of a big mane, like a fierce lion :)

Ronald, nice stuff too, her belly armor (first sketch) and left leg (second setkch) are really nice. I like the reptile feet they project.

Maybe the character need a stronger silouhette. the stuff hanging from her hair (Smokken's last digi) could be bigger or longer, with magic talismans instead of just animal teeth ? I like also the stuff going from her body to her arm !
Im not sure I will have the time to draw something today, but tomorrow I'll go crazy and try to help more!

EDIT : Added a sketch I did yesterday. not really interesting, except maybe the beard and the shoulder (but meh, I added horn and it doesnt look like a feline or even a wolf plating.. haha bad idea)

[xinranliu]

a little sketching

[Vorace]

hey guys!!

Another iteration of the warpriest, based on Ronald's comments and mixed with the new kick ass sketching by Smokken

Also did a mix of what I thought was our beast ideas for the warlock-mage-sexy girl. What do you think?

Since we are approaching more and more a final design for these 2 characters, I'll start sketching to find a good composition idea for the portraits.

Feel free to modify the concepts if you think you can improve it!!

[JessiBean]

Vorace, can I have your brain? :heart:

Kickass thread, guys... GO GO GO!!!

[xinranliu]

Very nice vorace, we should start organizing the rest of the work now that we have the designs defined.

EDIT: So now we can start working on the good characters!

Vorace = elf ranger
Me = mage/warlock
Smoken = priest

just randomly assigned, if you guys wanna change i don't mind

so the first to do now is to come up with an interesting pose and a good composition

[Vorace]

thanks Jessi!!

Ok guys. Maybe we could now each start a portrait. I suggest Ronald on the Mage and Smokken on the priest (i'll do the ranger-elf). We need to find interesting poses for the mage and the priest because right now they are good to show the concept, but rather weak considering dynamism etc.
Maybe when someone as worked a lot on his starting image, he can just put in on a ftp or send it to the other via email. This way it will be true collab, ton of fun hehe! Also it can help if, for example, I know I am not able to work on it for the next days for some reason the 2 others can continue it anyway. I hope im clear uh

[smokenmirrors]

everything sound nice and saavy... but if I may add: i think before we each start on the portrait outright, that perhaps we do a bunch of small thumbs for the poses, and then collectively choose the strongest. Ie: i might do several for the elf/ranger, war preist and even a few for the fem mage. Everyone does a couple, really rough and quick. WE choose the strongest and from there the details and fine tuning can be more indepently carried by our individual team members, till its all just basic detailing, textures and the biz, which as Vorace has mentioned, we can continue to collab. THEN, when those are nearing completion we shuffle and rock the demon sides!!

[CKLamb]

I love watching this stuff evolve in your sb. I really like the multi-layering of clothing/armor/relics/etc. I think that's something my own work seriously lacks. I can't wait to see your finals! Best of luck!

[Vorace]

yep Smokken is right!
Thumbnail = good idea and less chance of being stuck with poor composition.
I wont be able ton particpate until sunday :( because I'll be away from home.

[xinranliu]

thumbnails, set #1
for the sorceress

also I changed her knee design a little bit, small detail though

[xinranliu]

2 more

[alive]

is there room enough for one more ?awesome art goiing down in here and im looking for a team to join

[smokenmirrors]

heres some thumbs, lets try and shoot for Monday to choose our strongest comps/poses!
ive also included another fem mage idea... you ever see the women of Paduang??? Copper rings aroudn there necks from an early age... and adding rings ever year till they have hyper elongated necks that couldnt support there heads if the rings were ever removed...

anyway, i thought it was a cool accesory, make it segmented like the armor... snakelike...etc. :P

alive: not sure about adding an extra man this late in the game... maybe next time brosefesky.

[Vorace]

hi guys! im finally back uh, sorry for not replying faster

Ronald, thumbs number 3 is nice, my fav ! It is dynamic and energic!

Smokken : I like a LOT the idea of the neck ring... maybe they could be twisted a bit so they look like reptile scales or something. There is some really interesting ideas here. My fav is the last of the first row. Really imposing stance, with the cloak taking a lot of space. It go well with the design of the priest!!

I wont be able to work directly on the TCHOW until friday, because im super busy with freelance stuff :(. I will do my best to give inputs anyway and I will start working on it like crazy this sunday or friday.

[smokenmirrors]

busy buddy! Vorace: ive no worries about you holding out on us till the weekend as youre a power house that can crankem out like the industrial revolution :P and I liked the cloak thumb one too, maybe ill do a slight variant, but Ill get started and post so you and Ronald can see if its still working.

alrighty: Ronald: lets get your final comp set and in play, focus on your character and pose first, nail it down and worry about the background last (just throw down some abstract shapes which can then easily become simple trees/foilage) Try to getterdone in the next 5 days, that way you have another 5 for the demon side.

also i think we have to be careful with how we light the characters, since they are the "good" versions.... warm colors and nice lighting can help convince that motive...

:painting:

[xinranliu]

a small update of what I've started
her right hand will be made of wood and twigs to show that she's a dryad

i'm setting a deadline for *saturday night (EST) for myself so I can ship it to you guys for collab

inputs plz :)

[xinranliu]

another update..

[smokenmirrors]

thats looking sssssssssssssssaaaaaaaweet Ronald!!!

progress is delish: I would just say that maybe try to get a bit more facial expression out of her and perhaps change her right hand to a clench to help convey some more emotion... also, is she getting ready to bust some spell/power action?? if so are you planning on wrapping one of those arms in some type of glow/ electric snake action....

color pallete is great, just be careful not to get too muted as you want her to pop off the background.

great stuff, ill have mine fleshed out soon as well...

[smokenmirrors]

heres my start to my good wolf battle preist.... I was thinking of having a pack of wolves in the background.... hmmm... I think we should incorporate our animal avatars hanging out just for kicks.... :painting:

[JailHouseRock2]

Fantastic work guys, everythings looking great!

[xinranliu]

nice smoken :) damn dynamic
i'm redoing mine, there were too many anatomical issues that I didn't fix in the beginning.. oh well

[smokenmirrors]

Thanks Ron,

and if you have some anatomy quirks, just post what specifics youre struggling with and I can do a paint over if I see something funky. Dont sweat though about starting fresh... Ive done that many many many a time! :P all part of the creative process. :yayca:

[xinranliu]

smoken: I'm not really starting all over, just redrawing the thing, thanks though

yeah still in progress

[PowleyMan]

Inspirational work guys! keep it comin.

[Vorace]

hey guys great work!! Well I already give my advide to ronald via msn and Im too lazy to repeat them here hehe

Smokken : you are doing great! The only thing bothering me right now are the legs. Maybe we could se his left leg a bit more from a front point of view? because right now they look a bit weird !

I continued the elf (changed the legs that were awkward) and sent it to Ronald. Also I painted over the mage. :)

[midknight523]

great stuff!!

that woman reminds me of the dinosaur from Jurassic Park 1. the one that eats the fat dude in the jeep

[smokenmirrors]

Yeeeeeeayahhhhh! very nice set up, and I agree, the legs on mine look a bit funky, Ive worked some more on it since with some more tweakage, one more session this afternoon and Ill send it on over to you. In the mean time: its DEMON TIME as our designs for the good versions are nice and solid, just need to get the demons stirred up and fleshed out. I choose the elf!!! :P but if Ronald wants it I can take the mage. Its all good.

7 days left...

[smokenmirrors]

alrighty, heres a bit more: ill send it on ova to my mates, see what comes of it. In the mean time, Im working on the demon... :devil:

[smokenmirrors]

sketchup of the demon side of the elf....

[xinranliu]

alright we're almost there :D

[Vorace]

great stuff guys! Im going to work on the priest Smokken sent me yesterday ! I'll send you the mage girl as soon as im home!

keep it up there is not a lot of time left!

[smokenmirrors]

cant wait to see what you do to it Vorace! and Im guessing, aside from fellow baguette input, our demons sides are largely going to be up to us as individuals vs. the collab treatment with the good sides given the impending deadline.... ?

in any case heres a comp i settled on for the demon elf....I suppose he was taken over by a berserkeresque demon....... hmm......... more to come....

[Vorace]

yep for the demon because there is not a lot of time we will need to trust each other first ideas hehe

I got some new freelance jobs to do, so I wont be able to put as much time as I wanted on the TCHOW this weekend... will do my best guys, but I cant garantee anything :(

Anyway, It's fun to draw on each other stuff! Will update the priest tomorrow or friday (sorry cant to faster )!

[smokenmirrors]

ahhh dont even worry buddy boy: real $$$ jobs always take precedence and nobody can fault ya for making that art bread money! :)

heres a lil more progress with demon elfy....

[Niva.]

Holy cow you guys are doing some awesome work. That elf in the forest with the bird is elite. I also like the last one, very dynamic pose, angle and expression on that dude.

Cheers!

[xinranliu]

okay guys just to let you know i'm working on the evil possessed priest (kinda necromancer-ish i guess)
he's into the dark white magic or something, ima add maybe a little shamanism
i'll post the sketch for feedback tonight
gotta leave for school now :)

[jozulus]

wow! some elfs looking great! nice work guys, up to the finish

[xinranliu]

this is the rough sketch for the evil possessed priest, i'll do a refined grayscale version then we can wrap this one up!

[smokenmirrors]

ahahah! NICE!

love the demonic meditation stance!

really try to push the "evil" of the priest... be it needle teeth.... glowing eyes.... maybe some horns popping out here and there... go nuts!

...

heres a bit more progress.... going to do another pass, then on to color.

and Ronald: after I finish with my contribution of your rept-fem-mage, do I send it back to you for the final pass??? or am i supposed to polish everything off? hmmm....

let me know!

:)

[smokenmirrors]

alright my baguette brigands, heres my contribution to our fair reptile inspired mage...

Ronald: you have the veto power to add or subtract from Voraces and my design/illo changes with your final touches. So do it to it brotha! polish up those edges/details and put your seal on it! :)

[xinranliu]

im gonna leave this one here for now, i'll probably go back on it tonight or tomorrow, i'm going to finalize the dryad mage now

if you guys wanna work on this evil warpriest please tell me i'll send you the big jpeg

[xinranliu]

I hope I didn't abuse of my veto right :)
Progress for the evil warpriest, probably needs a little polish or something

[smokenmirrors]

looking good looking good. and no sweatin your veto powers my friend, although I will miss the frilled beasty.... :P

alright: heres my addition to our good elf, which was sent back to Vorace for his final nay or yays.

final stretch, finishing up my demon elf...

Ronald: if you have time think about what type of template we can apply to all of our characters for the final presentation.... Ill do the same. after all we got to pull everything together by the end of tomorrow...

[PowleyMan]

one small touch on the good elf i think would be cool. have the crows eyes just as blue as the elves. maybe a little glow to each. it would show more of a connection maybe?just a thought. keep up the good work.

[smokenmirrors]

hey gents,

how bout this for a template?? in the shield you can write the character type... and I figure for our team banner a repeat of the skull and baguette cross bones???

also, i can sharpen up the lines..... :P

[smokenmirrors]

and I was thinking that the corner triangles, the ones with the baguettes would be opaque with the white...everything else would show the image coming through.... maybe ill break up the black frameing also with some frayed/stone pattern.....shrug. open to other ideas too! :)

[Swordhand]

Go team baguette! really hope you guys finish. superb teamwork here.

[xinranliu]

yeah nice smoken it's swell

trying some bg?

[SunRoamer]

Hi thar °A °
Just saw your Final entry, and I must say I loved it! Keep up the good work :)