Team Chow II: Ken-Do-Pu-En-Ds

[Sirkenneth]

Team CHOW II: Ken-Do-Pu-En-Ds

This will be the official sketchbook and meeting room for team Ken-Do-Pu-En-Ds This team consists of Sirkenneth, dwardo, sepu, vshen, and AmbientSounds

[Sirkenneth]

So, what I had in mind is something in the way of the Greek myths. With the blending of Gods and mortals. I think that gives us a good amount of fantastical freedom. We can create something as grand as Gods or the gritty mortal heroes who stand by them. Another idea was the "messengers" of the Gods. A type of demi God creature thing that would visit the humans and do the particular Gods bidding.
So, by Gods I mean any thing. Most of the old old religions had Gods for everything under the sun-so our options are pretty much limitless.

I dont know if this sounds interesting to any of you- its time to brainstorm! its going to be rough because we are on such different time zones, but this thread should help!

[Sirkenneth]

Oops, and a major hickup has arrived! My CS3 trail is over! sooooo....hrm, anyone have a key?? PM Me :lounge:

[dwardo]

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii293/chowarchive/CHOW-LINES/CHOW-LINES-MEDUSA.jpg

TEAM CHOW II: GOOD AND EVIL

DESCRIPTION

This month's Team Chow is going to be a little different! This time, we are creating fantasy portraits for player characters - with good and evil versions! It's both a wide open brief and a very strict one! Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to create a random team from the options given to you below, and to create 4-8 fantasy portraits that read well together and still look awesome separately. Thus, as a team, you must create a compatible 'look' for your characters.

ConceptArt.Org is going to be running game design activities and it is our hope that some of these characters could really inspire people doing activities on the other parts of the site too! Fuel for their fire so to speak. :]

Also, Jason has allowed me to offer you some fabulous prizes!

The winning team will get four downloads of their choice each and a pass to an upcoming live streaming course right here on conceptart.org!

Also, individuals within teams are also up for a prize! These will be given for leadership, and for extra effort in making great characters. This prize will consist of four downloads and the pass to attend ca live streaming event.

On to the nitty-gritty:

Here are the rules!

1. Teams of two MUST create at least 4 portraits, teams of three or four need 6 and teams of five need 8. You are perfectly welcome to create more images that the requirement if you feel your team is up to it.
2. You must take a random selection of the choices below. Please don't do 4 elven fighters, or only orcs, for example. Please take a randomized selection. If you would prefer me to give your team a specific assignment, I will generate the selection for you. If I see teams doing more select parties, then I will request you to change to something more random.
3. You must follow the format provided. See it below, please!
4. You must do a LIGHT and a DARK version for each character, please! This means that for each character you need two portraits.
5. You must submit a paragraph about each character. Do a short write up for each character you create. I want to see some interesting, stereotype-breaking stuff here, folks!

PLEASE SELECT ONE OF EACH CATEGORY FOR EACH CHARACTER.

Gender: Male / Female

Race: Human / Elf / Half-Elf / Dwarf / Orc - (and anything else you can think of!)

Class: Fighter (Barbarians, Knights, Dark Knights, Brawlers, etc) / Thief (Assasins, Rogues, etc)/ Spell Caster (Wizards, Sorcerers, Druids, etc) / Healer (Priest, Cleric, White Mage, Medic, etc) - (feel free to make up something for this, too)

Alignment: Good / Evil (please do both for each character)

YES, THESE LOOK LIKE STEREOTYPES. IT IS YOUR JOB TO BREAK THEM. I want to see some really interesting, kick ass stuff! :D

Okay, NOW GO!


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SUBMISSION GUIDLINES

The Final Burning Thread will go up ONE WEEK before deadline. The deadline will be August 31st, at 11:59 pm GMT - 4, Eastern Daylight Time. I will accept submissions as long as it is August somewhere in the world, but after this I will close the thread. I am going to give myself 1-2 days to then sort out the poll and the voting, so please be patient.

1. One team member will be in charge of submitting the final entry. How the entry is presented will be up to you, but keep it consistent and coherent.
2. Remember that you will need to submit wips. If you decide to make a group sketchbook for this activity, a link to that will suffice.
3. Also sumbit a list of Team Activity. I want to see how well you worked as a team - who was in charge of what and what each member did.
4. All other ChoW rules apply. If you are not familiar with the usual chow rules, please read the guidlines thread sticked at the top of the subforum. Including, 3/4ths rule, no paint-overs, etc.
5. Please submit files with this naming convention: TeamChow_TeamName_Image001.jpg
6. Please keep to the format of the image below. We're gonna be a little bit more strict about presentation this time - each portrait should be portrait-aligned, like so, and the figure about as big as the one you see below. Full bodied figures, please.

And thanks so much to Zhanglu of Massive Black Shanghai who created to help get this contest get off to a great start!
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii293/chowarchive/CHOW-LINES/kl.jpg


Thanks, and Good Luck!
:D:P





Edit deux:

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii293/chowarchive/CHOW-LINES/CHOW-LINES-MEDUSA.jpg
-=GUIDELINES=-


Follow the Character Brief to the best of your ability.

What this means: The Brief is where you find the details of the character for the given week. Often times there will be tidbits of vital information included in the Brief that you will not find by going just by the thread header.
Why: As CHOW is in part designed to give you some real world experience in character design, you are encouraged to read the brief and do some research on the character that week when necessary. Briefs vary greatly from assignment to assignment or client to client in a job situation, and so to here in CHOW.


Art created *only* for this activity will be accepted.

What this means: This means that CHOW requires you to create original artwork for the given week. Paint overs of other people's work is strictly forbidden.
Why: CHOW is about pushing your limits as much as possible. You do not benefit in any way, shape or form by copping out and submitting work that has been created previously for something else (either a personal project or for a client).
Furthermore, paint overs (of artwork or photographs) are viewed very, very dimly by the hosts, and are considered cheating.


One Entry Only.

What this means: One entry per entrant.
Why: While we encourage prolific illustration, it would rapidly get well out of hand for orchestrating the poll, therefore for our sanity, and yours; One entry only.


Minimum 3/4 character must be visible. No busts or head shots.

What this means: A three quarters view of a humanoid character is required. Head shots, or busts, are greatly admired and some of the best artwork every done has been done in this style, and they can convey a great deal about the character being illustrated. However, in CHOW, character expression is expressed through so much more than just the face. The stance, position of arms, hands, accouterments, costuming design all help convey who the individual is that you are illustrating.
Why: Mostly because we want to see you can do. How well can you illustrate the human form, or any other form for that matter? Further to this is how well can you express an emotion through that form?


Background imagery NOT NECESSARY unless indicated by the brief.
Otherwise feel free to include it.

What this means: Include a background image or not. It's up to you. Unless the brief says otherwise.
Why: Backgrounds are not the focus of CHOW.

Color or Black and White.

What this means: You can work in color or black and white.
Why: Both color and black and white can be very powerful tools of illustration, and each artist uses them differently.

Any medium is accepted, except photography.

What this means: You can submit work that is created digitally, or traditionally. However, photography is not accepted.
Why: CHOW is about illustration, be it on a computer or canvas. Photography is not illustration therefore not accepted.

However, sculpture is accepted because it is done by hand.


No sketches for finals - we want finished work, just like the rest of the Weeklies.

What this means: Finished work is a fairly relative term. Review some of Wes Burt's or Marko's work (or John Singer Sargent for that matter) to see drawings that technically are sketches, but would be accepted in CHOW.
Why: For our purposes here, a sketch is a unfinished thought. A drawing (including artistically unfinished ones) are a complete thought - either completed by the artist, or by the viewer.


Remember: Focus your illustration. Pay attention to anatomy, shape, form, lighting, etc. USE REFERENCE.

What this means: Too often beginners try to do everything. Don't. Slow down and THINK about what you are attempting to convey - what you want to say. Look critically at what you are doing, and why you are doing it. Don't just throw everything into the picture including the kitchen sink just because it's within arms' reach. On the same note, don't use a every color on the pallet just because it's there. Color conveys emotion. Fewer colors will have a stronger impact in the illustration.
Why: You illustration will have more impact, and therefore stand a greater chance of going to poll, and getting votes if you know what you are doing. If you're not sure what you're doing, or how to do something, ask someone or experiment first before just throwing everything into your final.

On using reference: Reference is considered to be typically the use of an object, person, animal or location in photographic form to study so that you understand how to illustrate said object, person, animal or location. In regards to CHOW direct copying is strongly discouraged, along with paint overs (taking a photograph into photoshop or painter or other program and using a layer on top to either smudge or trace the photograph in part or in whole, regardless of whether you own the rights to the photograph or not). In fact, using someone else's photograph for your own artwork, or elements there of, is considered plagiarism and is forbidden in CHOW.


Please include accurate copyright information when submitting your entry.
What this means: It means that we'll need you to tell us how you are filling out the copyright form when you upload to the CA attachment manager. This means name (usually if we're not sure, we put it under the username, but you may specify another), image catagory, sub catagory, genre and media.
Why: Because of the new attachment system, we need accurate copyright information in case your image is posted anywhere else with regards to chow. (For example, the winner's thread.) We can usually guess, but it is much easier (and accurate) if you simply provide the information along with your final burning entry, and we will be requesting this from now on.






Ken-Do-Pu-En I guess < ---haha Pooo'en That's hilarious.

n Sweeeeet.

Well, let's see what we got here.
I know sepu wanted an Egyptian theme too.
My mind is dancing around future themes and twisted characters,
but like I said to sepu, it's all about adaptation, and I'm all for pushing myself more, even if it makes me cry.
I've always wanted to try out demi-Gods and God of Pancakes. whatever ever.

How about whatever theme comes up, but we move it into the future, or different Universe.
Parallel characters or something sci-fi, but we'll add magic and stuff just to keep to the fantasy theme. wooo

email: dwardo (mailto:eddicomelab@hotmail.com)

This timezone is going to be heeelariousss.
But this be the base, and email addy is still handy.

yallo!

[Sirkenneth]

Ken-Do-Pu-En it is! hahaha!

I think I might just have my mum mail me my old CS2 legal stuff... I need photoshop so bad!

I am all for anything that evolves! I guess we can do sci-fi fantasy...? Im not entirely sure! We need some references for mood and characters, start your sketches! Do we want to go for a realism? Or something stylized?
This will be interesting!

[dwardo]

Interesting indeed. sepu's asleep
vshen is a noob when it comes to forums. [buahahah]
Hi George!

[Can you re-install CS3 trial?] and run for another month?
I'd vote for inbetween realism and stylised.



edit:
Let's all start collecting images we're interested in that we can apply on a theme
that we decide on.

So far.
Greek Mythology
Egyptian Mythology
Futuristic Mythology [donuts eating people]

For me, anything works, as long as we can put some human traits in there.

1 questions I'd like to ask into this theme, that we've yet to decided on, is;
What makes us human? It's pretty much what all mythology revolves around, no?

[dwardo]

WorldClock (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) just to give us an idea of where everyone is on their day. 3 timezones man, heeelariousss.

Photobucket (http://photobucket.com) account for more image dumps. And make it Private.

High Fantasy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_fantasy)[wiki]

[Sirkenneth]

Lol, and I am going camping for like 3 days this week!
we'll see how it goes!

I am going to get some cs2 later this week.
I will stick to pencil sketches for now.
I would vote for something in between too.

Hmm. your philosophical question is a complicated one!
What makes us human-The biggest frontal lobe, ability to stand, and a thumb!
Philosophically it might be our need to understand-thus the making of Gods and
such. because we cannot understand it all.

I will work on some picture compilations tonight,
for now a sketch with the future Egyptian alien thing. No greek... but maybe some rune stones?

[dwardo]

Kenny, have you tried advanced edit on the first post to change the Thread title name?
Or has the moderators disabled that function.

A bumpy start, but as long as we settle on some basics, it's all good.


sweet ... Sarah and George please share your addy.
Oh. aaaaa ... Sarah, meet George. George meet Sarah. :teeth: Hallo!

And that sketch looks promising already Kenneth.

[Sirkenneth]

good idea Dwardo! The clock is nice.
It is pretty complicated but it should work out.
a day at a time. You and I seem to be on during the same times.

My e-mail is kenny_yarus@hotmail.com
pretty simple! A photobucket is a good idea too, we just need to post our WIP stuff here for the official CHOW sketchbook for the team. I dont have a photobucket thing either? Is that shiz free?

I need to go water my plants.

[Sirkenneth]

Dwardo-never saw the option its not apart of the editable info. I think a mod can change it for us. No worries.

[dwardo]

the Bucket be free.

And I should be up, it's 3noon here, you're folkin midnight zombie shiet. hahaha.

Sweet, let me get some stuff together.
But I'll wait for George and Sarah to have some input.
Email addies you two. Ks. :teeth:


Reference and moods. Start your brain massage exercises.
~I am Neo, I, will, kick, ass :P

[dwardo]

MUST MUST MUST

Subscribe to this thread guys. Atop this email thread, there's 'Thread Tools' [do it from there] and then enable email notification.

Please make a folder in your email inbox to sort this out. It's going to get messy. hahaha.


Camping Kenny? You better find some kick ass inspirations in there.

[JailHouseRock2]

You guys are goin' ROOOCK!

[Sirkenneth]

OOOOkahie! I will have to sign up.

3 noon is pretty nice-but you should be out and aboot in that Australian sun! Its only 10 here, lol! Perfect time to sink into the world wide web, like a luscious bubble bath!
References and mood- ON IT! We'll have to wait til tomorrow to see if anything we compile adds up to much!

Ive got it subscribed! Good to go!

Camping is indeed to most inspiring thing of all! Sleeping under the stars, listening to the ocean-fighting off the spiders and ants? mosquitoes? No showering. The whole thing... inspiring ...
ALSO- Jail house-Thanks man! This CHOW stuff is FUN!

[dwardo]

oh yeah, camping, doing a big deuce while a kangaroo stares at you, freighteningly funny. In NZ I think it's sheeps the size of cows that stare back at you. Hi Jail. :P

[Sirkenneth]

Hahahaha, I wish it was just a kangaroo! We have black bears! Worst thing in aussie land are those damn spiders! Gah!
Also Dwardo- I have a photobucket. Turns out. It still has some crappy art from a few years back! hahah!

[dwardo]

Kenny:
-Spiders are over hyped. I've been here 20 years and I've yet to see a Red back.
It's all bs man, they're harmless [said an idiot].
-The Bucket is just a backup really if the email attachments are full.

*Kicks the Battle Drums to the ground. Spins Kenny G.

[Sirkenneth]

I grew up watching the Discovery Channel! I have seen what those spiders do! Australia is too hot anyway. I want to visit New Zealand!

[dwardo]

aaaa ... pfffft ... Discover channel, bahahaha .... it's all edited man.
Editing and mood soundtracks, I spit, on Discover Channel.
If you get here, you'll find that the Outback is serene.
Silent.



Like no one is alive. :P

[vshen]

Ok finally signed up :) Still catching with everything but getting there...lol

My email is artofgeorge@hotmail.com and I can be reached through msn.

[dwardo]

buahahahaha, hallo EvanG/George.
Deadline be the end of this month, is Rhonda free? I'd really love her lines man. :teeth:
"As long as it's still the 31st of August somewhere in the world. The submission will be accepted"

edit: ooops ... I've been linking to the base url all this time. doi!
More Info (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=164163)

Email addys.
Kenny (mailto:kenny_yarus@hotmail.com)
George (mailto:artofgeorge@hotmail.com)
Sarah
Dwardo (mailto:eddicomelab@hotmail.com)

Hi Sarah. :teeth:



EDIT EDIT blaaah
What software is everyone using?
Email me your softie so I can figure out whatever assets I have to share with.

[Sirkenneth]

Hahhaa, well I might visit a place like that sometime...still seems too hot. Also-discovery has realllllly dropped in quality! I remember the good ol' days!

I will be running either CS3 or CS2. I dont what other software I should even have.

[vshen]

31st of August eh....kool..... I'm running CS3. Just like to say hi Kenny and Sarah:) Ed thanks for the invite man.

[Sirkenneth]

hey vshen! Glad to have you on the team! Your work is great!

[dwardo]

George: Yea, it just happened by chance
I just commented on my sb [which I hardly do, sorries] and then I saw your alias.
That's "Georgio" I thought, Leonardo came on and it was confirmed. :P

cool cool.
/d

Kenny: We get like, re-edits of the Discovery Channel broadcasted here. Some with
Aussie accents, which don't sound serious half the time.


n CS3s cool cool, I thnk Sarah's using something ancient though, need to get her to update. :P

[Sirkenneth]

Damn those discovery dubs!
Its 1:30 am now. Sleepz time. We need more pictures! All we do is talk in here!
On in 8 or 9 hours. Pitures to come.

[vshen]

Sorry guys that it's been a rough start for me. Today has been pretty hectic... trying to multi task everything but I am slowly getting there. I should get everything in order soon. Chat to you guys soon.

[dwardo]

No problems George, will keep you update mate.

Everyone's next post must be a collection of mood images.
Characters and all sorts. Something/anything that will sway each other to those sweet ideas.

I'll send some project-blocks in 12hrs.

//over and out

[sepu]

just checkin in, I'm going to run to central london, but in the evening I will catch up on all posted here and there, promise. and to make some sketches in opencanvas ( brilliant for sketching!) about my ideas

[dwardo]

My pallette is always on the un-saturated side. And it's always some kind of green or blue.

[AmbientSounds]

Oy, I was away for the weekend dwardo, sorry to just be responding... You guys still want another person? (you can pm in response to this, I don't want to clutter up the sketchbook space <3)

[sepu]

I have some time this evening and night, so I will do some reference-hunting, mood-board setting etc. Tomorrow I'm again back to my usual day-style which means tons of free time opposite my computer :) its just today that was deadly busy.

Hi everyone! I need some time until I will realize who is who, but I can start drawing without this knowledge so worry not my dear friends! :)

my email: sepulturka@yahoo.co.uk

[Sirkenneth]

Hello everyone!

Dwardo-here are some character/mood images I stole from around the net. I dont know if they resonate with anyone-but I thought I would throw my part in! Thanks for making the schedule!

Sepu-hope you had a good time in London Town! Welcome! I think we should all get out character/mood boards up and then discuss.

[dwardo]

Hi Lindsay :teeth: hallo!


Awesome Awesome Kenneth. I'll drop these sketches in and try working using your moods and characters. I saw a few of those same pictures, but for some reason, it didn't tickle me fancy. In this big group, however, it's a whole different feel.
Lynda says Hi from another dimension.

[Sirkenneth]

Yo, dwardo-I just saw your mood pics-AWESOME. We are on the same wavelength. I am into the green/ blue un-saturation. More mood. If you google images Waterhouse paintings you will see a mood I really like.

Another thing we should figure out is some kind of story. We are so all over the board we need to tie down to some basic story concepts.

[dwardo]

I would never have found Waterhouse if you hadn't mentioned it. A lot of fabrics and flow. That's 5 weeks of rendering time if I were to get with it. Bahahaha. [I'll update this post with something useful laters.].

[Sirkenneth]

waterhouse just has a nice cold pallet with a few strong colors-especially red. We dont need lots of cloths-but the pallet is something I am into.

Also-for everyone else on the story section this is what we roughly have thus far.
who-Gods? magicians? Mortals?
where- distant universe, everything is made up
when- in an age where science and fantasy mix! How exciting!
why- maybe a disease, war or some other intense time of trial.
Something to give our characters tasks.

lets hear the 4 W's of the story from everyone.

[sepu]

I was some time ago deep into shadowrun (google it!) where story of our world getting mixed with fantasy begins with: "one day charter flight from china to japan saw dragon flying alongside"

who - mortals dealing with gods
where/why - border mountains between fighting countries - this would bring at least two main species(elf/dwarf kind of species I mean) together
when - we are looking for mythology inspiration? then logically I would go for roman/greek/egyptian/sumerian/etc empire kind of setting

[dwardo]

Sweet guys ... now I see more directions. :teeth:
Shadowrun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadowrun)

who-Hybrids of God/Magicians/Humans/Peanuts
where- distant universe, everything is made up [check]
when- Kali-Yuga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga)
why- It's the switching of emotions. A new way of thinking.
The world is too ravaged to keep on going like this, and the mind is questioned once more.

It's always a battle of good and evil, and it starts from within oneself.


edit:
I love the W's Kenneth and Sarah.
Perhaps, we should aim for like 60 characters or something, tied in by parallel Universes :teeth:

[AmbientSounds]

Gotta agree that I love Waterhouse palettes. I'm not sure what can be googled, but if there is any question about any of that, i have a book of his work that I could scan in a pinch.

I await an update from dwardo on what y'all have discussed so far, and am reading through the thread here in the meantime and attempted to rack my brains as well. ttys

Edit:

Who: Liking the mortals and maybe demi-gods dealing with Gods. [and eating peanuts]
Where: shyah. a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away.
When: but not actually a long time ago, I'm digging the sci-fantasy. Just maybe with a Greekish vibe?
Why: the gods are at war, or maybe building up to war (between each other), and they are engaging in major sabotage towards each other's followers/realms. This could include all sorts of catastrophes, plagues, natural disasters, mortals in dispute and upheaval, etc. Peanut uprisings.

EDIT II, the sequel:

Okay, and just to get a sense of what everyone is imagining, a question... Are we looking at such things as Greek mythological creatures in a sci-fi setting? The normal fantasy genre type creatures in a more.. ancient Greece feeling world/clothing/weapons? A mix of maybe some Greek creatures and the more typical fantasy creatures listed in the CHOW descrip... in maybe a more sci-fi-ey world with Greek or Roman influences?... Just. trying to jumble some things around in mah head.

[vshen]

Man you guys are fast!

who: I like the hybrids of God/Demon type creatures/Can Robots be involved in some way?

where: distant universe is good

when: Futuristic but with ancient oriental elements/influence maybe even greek

why: possession of a powerful element/artifact that gives the owner limitless power (very LOTR).... or maybe disagreement on who would win in a fist fight between optimus prime and megatron?

Will reference hunt during the day and squeeze some quick sketches.

[dwardo]

I reckon anything that's cool Lindsay.

Sarah had Egyptian mythology in the mix also, so I'll start looking at the feels for that.
[I'm a noob when it comes to Fantasy, but would love to do any type of hybrid creatures]. Your faun idea had me thinking of other animal/humans combos.

It's easier to follow what's already set I guess, we'll just have to tweak it a bit, like, moving it into the future, or even just a century forward/backward.

Edit:
Hi George!

Robots Robots? Sci-Fi Fantasy ??? I'm not sure though, will have to look into it further.

[Sirkenneth]

You aim too high! 60 is too much! Unless they are all going to be peanuts! Besides we want quality not quantity-Both preferably.

Colors? (http://images.google.com/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&hl=en&q=waterhouse%20paintings&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi)

4 W's thus far....

Who- It seems like we are all liking the demigod stuff. Demi means half God half mortal so everyone knows. Now if we could focus on a couple possible "races" either generic or more out of box. Thats the next step.

Where- I Like Sepu's idea of the mountains in between waring nations, in a galaxy we have yet to name or really describe. (prolly dont really need to) Can we work out what kind of mountains these are??

When- I would imagine a late middle ages era- where the science of the renaissance was not quite full swing and there was still lots of mysticism about everything. Like the Greeks also. They had their science and they had fantasy too. Allows us some creative leeway

Why: So we want this linked to the Gods (as that adds fantasy) but the focus would be easier on the demigods as we can include mortals and actual social things into the drama. We seem to be into the war idea. Gods were always blamed for making the Greek wars so we have a nice tie in there. If the characters are inbetween the demigods and the mortals then we can add the sci-fi (gadgets of the mortals) and the fantasy too. Plus war is always exciting! Does this sound good?

Sounds- The rough blob like idea thats in my head right now would be something like Greekish demi Gods (very active and prominent in mortal life) Almost too good to be real heroes, mixed with a more clumsy race of mortals. Kind of like men in middle earth. I know they wanted us to break stereo types, but I dont want to go too over the top. I think two races of "men" like characteristics would be the easiest to deal with. As far as clothing and era goes- I like the empire idea that sepu had. distinguishable armor patterns and empire like society. I dont really know though...

-IDEA- I just thought I would throw this out there: If we can decide on say, two races. Then we break up into two teams. Within those teams we have someone designing the demigod and their good and evil, and another designing the mortals with their good and evil. We could then switch teams and edit each others designs to have a bit of cohesion in style. I dont know if that sounds good to the team or not. Just thought I would ask!

[dwardo]

*brain just exploded ... still reading up on Mythos and cool creatures, but yea
that reads about right Kenneth.

wiki list of demi-gods (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_demigods)

3 members working on the demis ... 2 for the humans ??? It could work.

[Sirkenneth]

Dwardo- Yeah I like your idea. What is more important? I think I agree that 3 should be on the demis and 2 on mortals. Mortals will have the cool sci fi gadget type things. Maybe in the context that the Gods have given them or that they are relics. Going with vshens idea. eh? eh? That might be our only way to realistically incorporate something robotic or sci fi.

the demigods could have gadgets too, But generally they are just cool and powerful. More magical.

[dwardo]

I'll need to second run throug the last few posts, but it looks like we're about to start.
Thanks guys for making it clearer and clearer.
Hi Sarah! :teeth:
I'mma crash for a bit. ttyouslaters.

[sepu]

you guys are sure about sci-fi allowed? there was some questions about it and answer was NO in main topic thread, wasn't it?

[vshen]

If that's the case sepu.... are we treading too much into sci-fi if we go for a futuristic theme? is it more safer to go into an ancient, medieval theme to make sure we are on the fantasy area?

[sepu]

We're looking at High Fantasy here, but I don't mind if you blur the culture lines a little bit. ;] But no sci-fi, please. As far as style goes, that's totally up to your team. But try to keep it in genre.

this is the bit I understood to be NO for sci-fi

[Sirkenneth]

Okay, it looks like sci-fi is out.
So, we will be back to the brass tacks of armor concepts and clothing.
Time to do more reference gathering! Go go GO!

EDIT:

I did a little research and it helped out quite a bit. High fantasy is a pretty particular thing. We are on the right track already but everyone should make a quick overview on what high fantasy consists of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_fantasy

I am going to the gym!

[sepu]

,,,,,,,,

[Sirkenneth]

Nice Sepu!
I ended up just wasting lots of time today. Here is a little sketch.

[dwardo]

oooo, yes yes Sarah and Kenneth. Awesome Awesome. Little ideas started to run around.
They're tickling each other, laughing n crying. Like a summer rain. ??? :P

edit:
I'm ready to go and explore more on post #44 (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2373230&postcount=44). Keep on playing, keep on shuffling things around.

Who - demigods and humans n neutrals. demigods of greece vs demis of egypt?
Are we doing titan demis vs titan humans?
I'd like it to be titan demis vs common humans. [No Hollywood ending; This game you'll never beat].
Where - Mountains , bridges, paths. A transitional location. Portal to an Oasis. A dance floor. A battle floor.
When - Yes to that one in post #44.
Why - Conflicts are always nice. Story as to what they're fighting for can always mirror how it is now. Justifications for survival over another. Any reactions can work.
A cool looking battle scene? or reality of conflict depiction. [No happy faces].

oooo, Are we doing 8 characters or 10?

---Switching - I'm not too sure about that one. I'd like to fully flesh out
one or the other and make the other race pay. hahaha.
I was thinking we can switch every now and then, with little adjustments added;
but the majority of work will be done by the same members. Yes/No?

/back to the table.

[sepu]

me and my baby girl have bad flu :( so I spend my time feeling bad, sketching and feeling bad.

[dwardo]

Hi Sarah,family first girl.
Get well soon with pumpkin yeah. We'll keep you filled in.

I dig the postures and placements. Blades and tree. Horns and scale.
Sweet. Sweet.

Tell me what yous need and I'll try my best K.

/vardo

[sepu]

pumpkin is climbing my back at the moment, coughing in my ear ind leaking poisonous substance on my neck. looks like she is feeling MUCH better than me. still I have good excuse to draw in the night when she cannot sleep and sleep on my arm leaving second one ok for tablet :)

I cannot get myself around myth style, I think ref hunting will set me right if only I will bring myself to do such terrible exhausting job like concentration :)

sniff cough cough sniff

[dwardo]

Bahahah ... :P

Uhm, in terms of myth hunting... I'm just thinking battle scene around 1300-1500AD
Hybrids I still vote for. Just keep exploring for this remainder of the week. With whatever energy you have. :)
We'll widdle it down ready for play. K.

mwah mwah
/d

[AmbientSounds]

OKAY I had a brainflash that I needed to dump on you guys real quick.... Then I'll be gone for around 30-40 minutes and then on for most of the rest of the day/night


Somebody earlier said something about robots, which was an idea that scared me because... I'm not used to it. This is what CHOW is actually for is it not? Let's push our boundaries...

Why couldn't our good players be more organic, more Greek-myth like... .and the evil versions have veered sharply away from the organic, to the point where [as dwardo was talking about in earlier posts] they are losing their "humanity", their... whatever made them them... and if not fully robotic, at least very much meshed in extreme body modification of the cyber-sort.

Just something to think about, I will come back and read the stuff you guys have been posting in a little while, because I see that you have posted today XD

[dwardo]

Oy, Liz don't get too excited about the robots.
No sci-fi was decided in the brief. They would've been sweet to do indeed, but we can always try some hybrid of some sort. Just get their background stories developed along with it. mwah mwah.

[AmbientSounds]

I'm feeling better about the no sci-fi thing, because last night I kept thinking that they might not be cool with that in the mod thread. Besides, I was starting to feel all mushy in the brain area about how some stuff was going to be incorporated... but never mind since it's a mute point now anyways.

I'm going to start some sketching now, I'm liking some of the thoughts/sketches floating around... And KenSIR I think the Waterhouse is spot on... That would be my usual palette as well, so it seems like at least a few of us are extremely comfortable with that.

As for the switching thing.... I'm feeling dubious about that, but I can see where you're coming from. I think maybe if we just kept showing each other WIPs when we get to designing, and then do brief paintovers and then let the initial artist decide what to do with it, that we might get things done a little faster? Then again, the thought of switching it up a little bit here and there and working on a different perspective might be refreshing for the whole team. Okay crap, I've just muddled myself into indecision LOL

As for the races, it said specifically in the rules that we need to have more of a random smattering... So I think that we should pick more than two, or the mods may force us back to the drawing board. And I think a couple of them should definitely be more... stereotypical High Fantasy fodder, such as elves/dwarves? And then have... whatever else we were thinking of, like I was thinking of a Faun, and I keep seeing some cool Minotaur looking critturs in posts in here.

Anyways. That was my brief two cents, now I'm going to go sketch and wait for the man to come fix my air conditioner *CRIEs* it's literally ninety two degrees in my apartment right now and 90% humidity. blah.

[AmbientSounds]

What I've gotten done in approximately an hour... I'm debating a whip, or maybe some kind of flail or mace? Depending on what the primary weapon would be, he might have a dagger or something.

Just kinda fooling around with shapes and stuff, I need to research goat legs and horns.

Dude. he looks like he's about to start a DANCE FIGHT :anime:

Edit:

Also, looking back through and thinking about the mountains thing... I keep picturing them being like, big, difficult to pass/live in type of mountains, Himalaya style. Which makes me keep picturing a lot of harsh weather/snow and very warm clothes, as opposed to the more drapey and light Greek clothes... Almost more like Mongols? Dunno. Just throwing stuff out there. It would give us something more in the way of armor/weapons to look at. And even more of a reason for dispute and quests and stuff like that... you really would have to fight to live in a place like that, and resources couldn't be taken from someone else without a huge conflict starting. *shrug*

[dwardo]

Awesome awesome ... hahaha dancing fight. :P
Sarah and Ambient, keep going with your directions.
I like everyone's ideas so far. Let's just keep drawing.
I love that Polska heart, and this Texan clutz. :P

edit:
Just throwing it in.
1 demigod
1 dying human
2 hybrids - Linds' Faun and Sarah's creature from the portal.
1 neutral/assassin/war monger

In the bad lands. The base of mountains that hug a coast line.
Summer or Winter?

Kenny, are you taking the human character route?
I really want to do some type of hybrid/ some kind of monster.
Forget the neutral for now, but something to think about I reckon. [well, I've been thinking about it] :teeth:

George, stop working and work on this. :P

I'll post some kind of shapes in 8 hrs. I really need a *hahaha magical spork. I need a nap.

[AmbientSounds]

Thinking my other character might be some kind of elf or dwarf, something to help fulfill the "high fantasy" part of the endeavor. That or I could stand to do that dying human that you listed. >:F That could be really interesting.... dunno. I'll futz around here some more once I get things in better shape over here, this day fucking sucks so far. [have a napful nap. I hear those are nice]

:ilaekae:AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *breath* HHHHHHHHH.

[dwardo]

The elf or dwarf could be the shifty neutral I was thinking of. :)
The dying human must still be able to stand when we take the photo for line-up presentation.

For some reason this is what I've been sketching. The dying man's family.
"He said he'd come back before supper"

[JailHouseRock2]

Some great ideas going round here!

[dwardo]

Post reserved. I'mma take that nap. *dropkicks Ambient
edit: cheers JHR2

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sepu paintover. Keep pumping them out girl. I love 'em.
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Random figures
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[Sirkenneth]

Wow! How to catch up after all of this! I was at school all day!
Great work folks! I was thinking about it all day!

I dont know where to start!

Firstly-great drawings and ideas!
switching- silly idea. Just giving solid feedback on each others WIP would be good.
I think its good that dwardo is trying to get the races figured out and dished up. This needs to be the forward steps. We can always work out the infrastructure kinks later. So I will jump right to that topic.
I am okay with the number but my suggestion would be:

1 demigod for the 1 dying man race
1 hybrid race and 1 demigod of the hybrid (so the demi's can fight?)
1 neautral character. maybe the minotaur race, or monster kind of race. Just killing what they can. Like animals. I dont know how they would fit into the group photo though... hmmm


I like the idea of dwarves, probably more so then elves simply because I think elves are over played.

I dont mind doing the man race at all! Anything works for me! I want to draw some sweet armor.

I think summer would be more fitting if we stick to a greekish theme. And location- mountains might be too extreme. I like the coastal idea, and I would throw in a forest idea or perhaps a valley. The battle valley. Often old armies would choose locations to fight, and they might fight there several times, not so much in Greece but other parts of Europe. Maybe around a fortress??

I am going to assume I am working the man race and will start some drawing. I will post later tonight with some goods!
AWESOME WORK!!


edit-posting a helmet concept- kind of trying out some animal like concepts. input??

[dwardo]

I like the silhouette Kenneth. Maybe just the horns for now. It reminds me of that Transformer leader. The one that, out of all the picks to be, decided to become a dumb truck. Animals and insects are always nice reference. Aggressive aggressive I say.

[vshen]

Hey guys,

I have some very loose silhouettes right now. Not really clear on direction yet. Will have a clear look at the thread to see which one is working for me right now.

[snootchy]

Dwardo glad you made it in the team chow, was about to give u my spot, hehe but glad we both doing! Nice sketches man and to the rest of the team as well, keep up the hard work guys!!


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[Sirkenneth]

Wowow-wait...you dont like the horns? I dont even know if my man will have a helmet on-just thought I would throw it out there. Here are some more sketches-more just poses of the half dead guy. Is it what you were thinking of?

edit-vshen-Saweet! I REALLY like the first one. Very God like- in a kind of scary way...?? Nice work!

[dwardo]

Sweet George.

2. for the mobility in those legs, try overlaying any of the organic brush over them for more variations.
3. for that hair-do and a floater.
6. for arms as legs. the movement when animated will be freaky asz shit.
8. for the demonic stance.
7. those stranglers are always bad ass.

After the competition I want to model and rig some of our characters out, and do some Z-Brush passes on them.
Texturing sucks though, but whoever wants to try out the 3D side with these assets, it would be sweet, no? :teeth:
I'd love to learn along with you guys again.

Kenneth: Oh shoot, I forgot you were doing the human. :P
Mate, do whatever you want with it actually. I want to see your bad-assery.
I've forced you to make one look weak. If he was standing up straight with a big gash on on his abdominals though
and he still has a bad ass face, that would be something. :D

[Sarah, am I typing too much?] hahahaha.

The headgear is cool, I missed the details on it. Sick sick sick.
[You got to share your construction method] [Everyone check your email addys]
My ultimate headgear to beat is the Highlander original. The bad guy helmet.
"It's better to burn out, than to fade away".
n did you see 'hurt man's' family in the previous post. He's got 7 kids; Potent.

/d


edit: cheers Mike. :teeth:

[AmbientSounds]

lmfao "potent"

Anyways-- Like the helmet actually, it made me think of these poor little mortals trying to give themselves some courage and a badass look for fighting minotaurs... or . something LOL

And yes, I agree that elves are highly overdone. I was always more of a dwarf person myself (being six feet tall, I have so much in common with them). I will start working on the dwarf and look into some armor/clothing/weapons kind of things.

I'm also digging the summer... maybe the mountains are coastal? But mountains would be ideal for a dwarf now that I think of it.

What is this group picture I keep hearing about? Aside from the four portraits each, is there something else we should all be looking at together?

[Sirkenneth]

Ok guys, I am out until friday night! I will check back then. Keep it up!

[vshen]

Guys I'll try to get some sketches done today, I have to attend to some client work and paperwork today.

Anything from the silhouettes I posted working for anyone? Is there anything you would want me to work further on?

Kenny thanks for stopping by my sketchbook really appreciate it:)

[dwardo]

Everything looks cool cool.
-Lindsay and Sarah, you're on the same page with dwarf love.
-Don't forget your Rambo knife Kenneth.
-George you and I have to start sketching stuff.

~
So far we're looking at
Who: 1 human, 2 demigods, 1 hybrid, and 1 neutral. (hybrid dwarf or neutral dwarf ???)
Where: Mountain by a portal, surrounded by red ocean. 5 moons. Hahaha.
When: Yonkers ago with Waterhouse feel/colours.
Why: "Who ate the last pancake?" I'mma ask you again nicely. Who ate the laasst ... PANcaaaake! Sorry,
there it is.

Group picture, let me get back to you on that one Lindsay.
[Is it me, or the full competition details keep hiding itself around this board?]

[sepu]

have same feeling dwardo - its like all information are being spread evenly in the main topic round questions and answers, but not in first brief.

hey girls, I will play with what you posted, and do some new sketches today, as I have feeling that guys here took boring normal human/armor and background thing for a moment :)
we, with invincible woman-power, will get to those strange good-looking creatures ;)

<still having flu, but feeling slightly better>

[ImaGEEnation]

Nice stuff here, guys! :D Keep it up! You guys made me want to participate now!

[dwardo]

sepu: less typing, more resting :P
Galing: bahahaha.
edit:
Hiss Sydney sider artists. Hisss. hahaha
Team Lymphorm (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=165475). Nice.

[AmbientSounds]

aw, rest well, and yes, invincible woman-power will most likely see us all through in the end *sage nod*

And I was thinking [*jabs dwardo*] that the dwarf would be, for starts, plain ol' good and evil, since that is the main objective I think for the CHOW. Once I'm finished with the main two charas/two alignments, if there is time I think that I'd really like to try my hand at a shifty neutral. I just know that I suck with keeping deadlines in mind, so I'd like to make absolutely sure that I finish the others first. Still like the idea though.

Why couldn't the five moons be peanut shaped?

dwarf love for the win.

[sepu]

peanut shaped moons

[dwardo]

Why can't the five moons be of our faces. Be serious Lindseee n Sarah. K. :P
[I'm feeling monkeyish now]
Definitely keep with the basics evs (everyone) all others will be a bonus
and did I mis-interprete the info. 8 portraits all up, that means 4 characters, with good and bad, right?
What on earth have I been informing? *smacks coconuts

[I've been running on empty, and my spelling's getting worse].
I'll double check slowly. And I still can't find the final info for this competition. Helpers.

[vshen]

Started to sketch will post them soon.

[vshen]

Been really busy at the moment and really can't think straight right now. I though I'd give a faun type creature a try just like what AmbientSounds started.
I don't know what to think of it but that's the best I could come up with at the moment until I get rid of some more work so I can clear my head.

[sepu]

I always wanted to try to make dwarf witch/cleric, also had played little with two of your sketches people..

[dwardo]

George: I like the mask and spear. The feet are probably a tad big, but I can definitely feel some intensity.

Sarah: oooo ... :teeth
dwarf witch/cleric ... i got to try that out. :)
This is the second badonkadonk character I've seen today. Hahaha.
-Double heads, nice, I didn't think of that, and oh my goodness those feet are scary.
-About the arms/hands, hmmm, let's give it a try, I reckon small hands, like all little kids that want to touch everything that could possible knock them out are pretty dangerous.
n
[You seem to have a natural talent for making things scary nice]. -We should collaborate after this one too.

Lindsay and Sarah, he wants to dance. No underwear. I forgot hahaha
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Anito: (Spirits) Troublemakers
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I don't know, some guy that likes to carve into wood and 'Hello Man'.
Grab my hand. Shake my hand.
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[dwardo]

Sketchbook it is :teeth:
I'm re-installing my main rig, so for the mean time I'll be on pencils and paper.
Will scan and clean if anything results.

Team KDPED, keep up the good work. I know everyone has some busy as schedule,
but we've plenty of time indeed. Cool cool. :teeth:

[Sirkenneth]

IM BAAAACCCK!!

Dwardo- that belongs in yow sketchbook! But everything else is looking real nice.
vshen-your monster guy is killer! I love the helm etc. Looks more demi god to me.
everything is just looking swelll!
I went through all the e-mails and it was a lot to intake. It looks like everything is moving forward. I will start my drawing and be posting stuff soon.
The camping was freekin amazing. I was down at the coast swimming and hiking all over. Did some landscape painting. You'll have to swing by my sketchbook later when I post them. for now-I finish my relaxing. sleep in a BED!

[dwardo]

LOL. Lots of email. That's an understatement. I sent complaints. :P

[sepu]

just don't send them by email dwardo!

heres another dwarf, shaman. I think we are watching too much wall-e with pumpkin..

[sepu]

beastmaster

[Sirkenneth]

Ive got some house cleaning to do! I will be posting more tonight!

[sepu]

now flu is gone - I'm bursting with energy and madness.. still need some help with anatomy. I'm simply too damn lazy to check references.

[dwardo]

Those silhouettes are delicious sepu.

-I like the firestarter horse face. Anything bright will read nicely from a distance.
-Multiple limbed guy can definitely give Kenneth's human some problems. [How do you defend it, right?]

In terms of anatomy, there's nothing glaring in my eyes, probably just
the upper chests. Keep the muscles/fat below the collar bone.
Everything else are just little tweaks. I'll give them a run through ASAP. Good stuff girl.

The most important thing, for me at least, is a nice silhouette, something that will
read nicely from afar, even without all the details.
You're coming up with some noice scary stuff and it's kicking a few cylinders in my brain.

-Who's giving minotaurs a try? :teeth:
-I'll try and come up with some silhouettes. I just had to catch up with a few more other things.
I've got a few other character designs on my table, so I'm kind of running out of ideas. :P
-"Don't send it through email".You silly sausage. hehehe.

Hallo SirK,Shen,Epu,Sounds. Start thinking about environment colours also.
I'm always up for a dreamy lighting, but that gets a bit boring. Ha!

[dwardo]

I would love to do a sepia alternative version of the finals.
We all went back in time and took a polaroid. :)

[sepu]

ok, I take minotaur. beast heads are SO much easier than human - whatever mistake, you can actually use it as advantage for picture :D

[sepu]

theres still no good sketch among few first ones, but when I was reserching bull head I stuck on this one. pumpkin actually fell in love with this... COW :)
(and so she learned new word today, "cow")

[sepu]

do
not
eat
sweets

[Sirkenneth]

Sepu-I really like the minotaur! Keep working on that-its awesome!
Dwardo- I am up for sepia version of finals. Doesnt bother be any. I will keep tweaking and trying out my man character.
Here is another sketch of my guy, I changed it to sepia on the comp. He is a little more heroic than the others. I gave him a decorated armor-but didnt want to make it too over the top. Feedback!

[sepu]

thanks Sir Kenneth :) I like him, still have to fix some of his anatomy - as always :P

I totally adore details of armor on your guy AND how proper he is looking like. Can You tell me what are You planning for showing his bad side? (as this one looks idyllic :) ) I bet it will be awesome!

[dwardo]

sepu: I like the lighting Sarah. The chain is a bit short though, the fashion designer should get shot. ha.
I'll probably trail that cloth behind it just a bit. But oooo, that would look sweet 2.5 metres tall.
SirKenneth:That guy definitely has weight, and I like the sketchy feel of it.
Almost like dirt is actually flying around him. How many heads are your constructions?

I've just got myself another network card. So hopefully my main rig can get connected.
I'll try and match a big asz monster behind your hero. Ready to be crushed.

On the off note: What is everyone's stance on raisin muffins?

[vshen]

Fresh from the weekend:)

sepu: I'm digging the minotaur, like dwardo said chains are a bit short but I'm thinking if you could play around with the horns and kinda go more than the standard two horns and probably have more elaborate designs or just simply make them more bigger that there is no way his head can carry it but some how still does.

sirkenneth: I really like your sketch mate, I was thinking for his evil side he could have more angular sharp armour to contrast with the round shapes that he currently has now.

Anyways this is my quick sketch and will work on this idea more.

Also was wondering after the challenge is over are we allowed to post these in other forums?

[dwardo]

vshen: I dig the long limbs and scraggy hair, or is that fire hair?
The rules for this comp, are the same as the regular CHOW, so we should be cool to post elsewhere. cool cool everyone.

Lindsay: I hope your broken hand and cut eyebrow from the fist fight is healing up ok.
Stay well girl. No more fighting K. mwah mwah.

[Sirkenneth]

Sepu- Thanks! Here is the idea that I have so far for his bad side. Do you think the good side looks good? What other changes or improvements can I do?
Dwardo- Thanks, I didnt really count him out. I think most of his weight comes from the cape behind him. The dirt is just my crappy scanner and not having photoshop yet! Glad you like it though.
vshen-thanks, I am digging the monster so far! Keep tweaking.


Here is my bad side beta. I was thinking-instead of doing just a "bad" side and changing his armor that I would throw in more story. Providing we go with a minotaur monster idea- I thought it would be cooler to have my fellow be "enchanted" or something of that sort. Where he changes half way into one and eats babies and shit. The idea was scarier than another muscle guy with armor. What do you guys think?

[dwardo]

-Yes to crazy eyes.
-Hybrids I always like, the posture could be affected by it also. Transforming posture??

If you figure out a way to bring those pencils into Photoshop and keep
all the textures, that would be awesome. All I can think of is setting the pencil layer as multiply. Colour layers underneath. lol to pasta loving baby arm. hehehe.

[Still re-installing. Should be done in about 8hrs max].

[Grandmassa Mr. Spect]

oohhh SNAPS*!!! I DIDN KNOW THIS WAS THE TEAM !!!!!! HAHA YALL RRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

[Grandmassa Mr. Spect]

ALL 0' YALL

[dwardo]

*jawn*
*scratches belly*
*flicks off ticks* :P

[I hope everyone is enjoying their long weekend].

[AmbientSounds]

lmao broken hand and cut eyebrow? ...somehow that doesn't sound as far-fetched as it should. =P

I'm here at work uber-early so I can get some sketching done in peace and quiet tonight, I've been tossing around ideas [not other people] in my head all weekend. ...I wish I had some peanuts.

Guys, stuff's looking awesome I gotta say, all of it. :rocker:

AND I have to say that I'm enjoying the pencils idea that dwardo mentioned. That used to be my painting method, just putting the pencil layer on multiply and going under it/around it. Though I'm not sure if everybody is comfortable with that? dunno. I'ma go play with my purty pens and paper now!

[Sirkenneth]

Grandmassa Mr. Spect: Thanks man! You ROCK! or is it RRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKK???

Dwardo- yeah, I will play with the coloring a little bit more tonight. Probably will work on the good side first. I dont know if I REALLY like the armor yet...

AmbientSounds- dang no fight? oh well. Excited to see what you some up with.

---What is everyone working on? Who is doing what characters? I feel like we are a little obscure right now.

I GOT PHOTOSHOP!!!! Its cs2 though, and it seems to crash a little to frequently for my liking. None the less-I have it!
Here is a little before and after being possessed by the minotaur Gods!

[dwardo]

I'm really having a hard time getting into the mood of fantasy.
What is everyone listen to when concepting? I was thinking metal, but the closest metal track I have is Keith Sweat - Twisted.

[Blue > Warm] Minotaurs with a bit of wolf sizing up Kenny's human.749848

scaled with the Asian mythology creatures - Anito
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[Sirkenneth]

hahhaa, is that the scale?!? hahha!
I listen to classical music usually, or sound track music. Something kind of epic. All else fails I play techno just to keep me going.
You can do it

[dwardo]

heehehehe .. I was hoping it would be. They're a bit tall actually. Let's make your human twice the size of the anitos.
I'll look for my Braveheart CD. Tis a bit scratched though. ha!

Hi Sarah George and Lindsay.

edit:
Kenneth: Your latest human looks worn down, weak and ready to fall. He'll be eaten alive by my minotaurs no problem. But I like it.
Your armor detailing thus far has been sick as, but if you say he can call upon enchantment, then bring it. They love a good fight.

Sarah: I never noticed until I was playing around with your minotaur, but there's some rendering in there that are sweet.
Very nice indeed. You'll have to teach me one day.

Lindsay: I'm sorry, it was the orbital bone right? You just have to learn to control your fists man. Not everyone wants to fight like you.
And your faun is the comedy relief for this game in the making, I'll try and match it with a Prince (cameo character).

George: Bring the sexy back. I like the long limbs. Weird colour skins perhaps.



In terms of characters, I don't mind working on the anitos, if, we can fit it into the theme/timeline/universal era.
I had a trying time doing this minotaur, but I think I'm ready to do another one, they pretty much have the same
structure as the fauns.




Are we going for very the graphic feel, lots of colours and 80s clothing, or are we up for some serious, functional fist fight gear?
Keep those ideas flowing. We're a bit behind on schedule, but eh, this is everyone's first time doing fantazeeeee.

[Sirkenneth]

Dwardo-yeah I dont think my poor human would stand a chance at all! I like your rendering of it though-very creepy. I like what you are doing with the minotaur, and I would recommend working on it more.

I will make the human younger and healthier. No worries. He will stand a fight, until of course he gets possessed and starts eating babies.

I would prefer no 80s clothing but thats just my own opinion. I can draw it!

How about everyone else- what creature are you do want? What style or visual theme are you happy with??


Here is one WIP of three "color" schemes I am going through. I will also change up the armor a bit in the drawings to come.
I also posted a possible scale.... eh??
We should be in our pre-production phase now so lets kick some bootay!

[dwardo]

Yes to that scale. The minotaurs are triplettes btw. I'll start making them look different.

Kenneth: I like that lighting a lot. The armor looks new, but don't worry, they'll smear blood on it. ha
And I'll keep tweaking them out. Their torso looks suspect, but I kind of like the lanky-type.
I really don't want to give them weapons, but I'll start playing around with them tonight.

SirKenneth: Human/ with bersker-enchanted mode
dwardo: Roving minotaurs or anito (troublemaker spirits) - just raw characters. No sugar.
sepu: Minotaur/dwarf/magic makers/witches/clerics/ ???
AmbientSounds: Neutral but shift characters/faun/Sculptor-magic maker ???
George: Supernaturals/Monsters ???

Summer mountain, with patches of forest.
I'd like an arch bridge in here somewhere where we can pose our characters under.
There's a fruit and veg market setup underneath and they sell something kind of sweet and they're lovely.

Pre-production everyone *shivers*

[sepu]

hi everybody :)

to bring something usefull until I install photoshop on this new machine let me remind You of something written down very clearly in topic thread:

1. (...) teams of five need 8. You are perfectly welcome to create more images that the requirement if you feel your team is up to it.
2. You must take a random selection of the choices below. Please don't do 4 elven fighters, or only orcs, for example. Please take a randomized selection. 5. (...) I want to see some interesting, stereotype-breaking stuff here, folks!

Class: Fighter (Barbarians, Knights, Dark Knights, Brawlers, etc) / Thief (Assasins, Rogues, etc)/ Spell Caster (Wizards, Sorcerers, Druids, etc) / Healer (Priest, Cleric, White Mage, Medic, etc) - (feel free to make up something for this, too)

YES, THESE LOOK LIKE STEREOTYPES. IT IS YOUR JOB TO BREAK THEM. I want to see some really interesting, kick ass stuff!

so... lets decide what we have in mind.
so far I see nice ideas:
1. anito / otina (if you gonna make them as scary as japanese horrors I will f*ing run away, promise!) ?
2. knight / possesed horned freak (nOice)
3. minotaur berserker (THAT is why chain have to be short guys :) / minotaur healer(that was my idea of good side) or... minotaur hula dancer
4. dwarf good shaman / dwarf poison maker

WHAT ELSE? :)

[dwardo]

What else?
How about a race of Tom Jones. Crazy fro waving every which way, leather skin looking tans.
Character board.
749975



-Otina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otina) : They're snails Sarah, relax. hahaha. But otina is perfect also. Something like an exact opposite of these trouble makers. A perfect name to yin yang anito.
Thank you. Feel free to mess around with these pale skins KDPED.
-"THAT is why chain have to be short" .... :redcheeks: :embarrassed:
lol hula dancers is saved for the side project.

Who's trying out horses. Lindsay? Texas? I know you've tamed your first horse at 2. Up for it? I wouldn't mind doing it. Kenny? Sarah? George? =)

-I'm not too fond of healer characters. It's a semi-cheat thing, like a Hollywood ending.


Who's writing the story for this one now. Kenneth, is this the original lineup you had in mind. lol.

[sepu]

oh noooooo.. not tom jones.. pleeeeease!!!!11111oneoneone
:P

I actually like never draw horses. never. not so sure I can learn and be good at it on the spot just now :)

what I really like, but it is stereotype kind of thing, are all kind of freaks and priests and warriors from ChaOs side. chaos dwarf magic making lady is not so much stereotype breaking stuff. or is she?

:)

[dwardo]

sepu: ChaOS, is that a Warhammer reference/keyword? I'm not a gamer or a fantasy reader lover, so these are all new to me. My head is about to explode at any moment. [Googling. Nice lead indeed].
I'm trying to render a limp horse that my minotaur has by the left hind leg, but it's not
coming out too well. I didn't know horses were this hard to draw. hahaha.

Kenneth:I dig those berzerker eyes, but how about no eyes. Just black holes.

Just a few more hours and I should have some free time. woohoo

[sepu]

dwardo - give me some idea of what you need from this horse and I will render some sketches for you of horse-to-be creatures to brake stereotype :) cannot draw horse, but something looking like it have horse in the family is thing I can manage.

or are You very much into this horse business?

[dwardo]

sepu: Thank you. I was actually thinking of a plain horse, but a centaur character
that's limp I wouldn't mind. I'll send some construction lines and see if anything rattles in your end.

The more that I think about my characters, it feels like I'm reaching for the Silent Hill type of audience. I liked all parts 1-4.
I've not finished any of them 'cause they're scary as shiet, but, well, that's where my mind is at at the moment. Scurry stuff.
Scurry fantasy. Scurry faces. Scurry baby hands.

[sepu]

yeah, pigeonhead guy was scary..
a, sorry, pyramidhead.

do evil version of anito in this way and it will be absolutelly fine with me :) I will just have not to look. :P

[Sirkenneth]

Wooo! Some discussion-NICE!

1. anito / otina (if you gonna make them as scary as japanese horrors I will f*ing run away, promise!) ?
2. knight / possesed horned freak (nOice)
3. minotaur berserker (THAT is why chain have to be short guys / minotaur healer(that was my idea of good side) or... minotaur hula dancer
4. dwarf good shaman / dwarf poison maker

1-Not totally sure what this is.... sounds neat though.
2-got the knight covered. We will just call him a warrior.
3-I like Dwardo's wolf minataur, looks creepy.
4-As far as the dwarfs go-I think if we give the minotaur magic abilities we should make the dwarfs more simple. I would say maybe one who fixes things, and one who breaks things. ALmost like grimlins.
5-DEMI GOD. thats the only thing I ask is we have some kind of half God.

Story line- we can make this all work, I am sure. The men are in a loosing conflict with the minotaurs. They ask for a demi god to come help them. Anitos (sound kinda mean) work for the minotaurs while the dwarfs just try and fuck things up.
It seems like the dwarfs and the anitos are in the same kind of "in the middle" range. You guys got any ideas?

I think we should focus on the story, and the concepts for the rest of the characters. The man character is pretty well worked out (he is the easy one)
but we need more progress. I can draw horses well enough...when did horses show up?!

Everything is going sweet! Thanks guys! and Girls!

I am going to work, wont be back til tonight.

[sepu]

*
1-Not totally sure what this is.... sounds neat though.
2-got the knight covered. We will just call him a warrior.
3-I like Dwardo's wolf minataur, looks creepy.
4-As far as the dwarfs go-I think if we give the minotaur magic abilities we should make the dwarfs more simple. I would say maybe one who fixes things, and one who breaks things. ALmost like grimlins.
5-DEMI GOD. thats the only thing I ask is we have some kind of half God.
*

lets turn it on the frying pan once more time :)
what if anito are cooperating with humans and dwarfs
while otina are little bad guys bringing half divine bad ass bad huge minotaurs to actually help them to rule/destroy the world that banished them from civilisation?? good minotaur can be summoned by good side in desperate move to even the chances on the battlefield?
story will be that war originally is between anito and otina, and because of recent escalation of magic used in fights, it started messing up humans and dwarfs (possesed ones started to appear!) so they decided to got involved to finish this mess?

ta-daa-am! (to be honest I like dwarfs too much to put them on bad side)

still fighting with software, but I will win. I have to win! ;)
will do some drawing tonight. even if only in opencanvas.

[Sirkenneth]

Sepu-NICE story! I like that. I could run with it. I still dont really know what these anito and otina are. So someone needs to give me a fill in. I have some work to get done tonight on commissions but I will work on the armors more.
keep at it!

[dwardo]

Tiny war drums are starting to beat in my head. I like all the ideas that have been dropped, and these stories make it much more clearer. Sweeet.

SirKenneth: The anito are from Philippine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anito) Pre-Hisp. mythology actually, I didn't actually think you guys would accept it, but eh, why not. hahaha. The anito/otina was Sarah's clever word play. A balance. Yin Yang.
I just think of them as the commoners in the mythological world, and as with everything else, everyone, even spirits can have motives that drives them.

Thumbs up on the commission, make it gooooooood. Don't come back before you do so, that's your name out there. :teeth:

[I'll edit some story in, when I'm fully aware of this world I am typing in]. woooo.0

[sepu]

I did draw, but only now something nice came out:
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6615/koniksmall.jpg
I was aiming for this feeling:
http://www.gypsyvanners.com.au/images/history_05.jpg
and little bit of this:
http://www.easterndrafthorse.com/History/suffolk.jpg

and - finally it is possible to listen to music while drawing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtOq6G_4kbQ&feature=related

[AmbientSounds]

Okay, I figured I'd post what I'm working on tonight while I'm at Barnes and Noble. I have some sketches in my notebook, but no scanner presently so I'll just stick with the headshot I've started.

Basically the faun character turned into a "fawn" character in my head. It's no longer a he, but a strong she with deer legs as opposed to goat legs. (dwardo, any resemblance to Natalie was a complete accident, but something around the eyes is making me think of her LOL) Instead of goat horns, she is going to have small deer antlers, and having deer legs would be perfect to use as a scout/light fighter.

In my head, she's pretty haughty towards the plain mortals. I think maybe something of her breed is generally aloof anyways though not unfriendly, but she personally has had some past dealings that has led her to believe that her race is superior... The fact that she has lowered herself to fight alongside humans at all shows that the circumstances of the world have fallen quite low.

Anyways, I'm still in playing mode for clothes/weapons. But as to her turning evil, I took the shift toward minotaur and have mentally run with it. Her horns will become strangely curved and made more heavy, as if they are trying to turn into minotaur horns; she'll have a large ring in her nose; armour, though probably still light...

Anyways. Dabbling. But thought I'd post because I've been pitifully quiet lately, and I apologize. :)


EDIT: LMFAO I love the dwarves being almost like gremlins thing. I want mine to be the one who breaks things! XD Er. Actually I'm equally partial to either one of those (I love fixing things lol) I'll play with that too.

[dwardo]

Human
Anito
Otina
Minotaur
Dwarf
Faun/Fawn
&
Demi-God




Rolling with the stones.
-Anitos and Otinas don't have the physical presence in the real world. So they both need humans and minotaurs.
-Otinas are the female spirits and they're sided with minotaurs to rule the physical world.
-Anitos (males) lost in the spirit world to the Otinas so they've sided with humans in the physical world battle?

*Good vs EVil. Men vs Women* (in spirit talk)
[Battle of the Sexes next month btw, checkers the Lounge for some details and voting polls].


-I like the dwarf Lindsay & dwarf Sarah idea that just likes to destroy and rebuild.
-The demi-god, the demi-god? A messiah? A saviour? Ulterior motives? Free lunch, wine included.
My triplette minotaurs will take him out in the end. No Hollywood ending.

It's a war for Domination! To preserve one's own ego.

[Sirkenneth]

Human-Kenny
Anito?? sepu? dwardo?
Otina?? sepu? dwardo?
Minotaur-Dwardo
Dwarf- AmbientSounds, maybe Kenny
Faun/Fawn AmbientSounds
&
Demi-God george? Kenny?

Anito and Otina are just spirits? Can we make characters out of them?

sepu-sweet horse thing! I like the references- what creature are you working on?

AmbientSounds-I like the faun concept. Seems like you are on a roll and know what you want. Now show us! I have been doing some dwarf sketches trying to figure it out.

Dwardo-I like your motif ideas. I can work with all of that.


Okay, Here is my color/armor theme one. Sorry for the low qual jpeg but it uploads nice and fast. gets the point across! Let me know what you guys think!

[dwardo]

Ambient:I love your metamorphis horns, genius idea. n It's Porty's eyes, I told you not to stare at them too long. LOL. That strange
feeling in your heart. It's called love. teeeheee

SirKenneth and Sarah : The horse/goat/deer I was thinking of was just for prop purposes.
It's a bit harsh, but that's how I roll.
-Paintover, but I don't know, I'm always for the hyena proportions. Big shoulders and small lower ends. I love the lighting you put on it too.
[I just level adjusted to match the black and white feel] :)

It's looking much clearer everyone. Thank you so much.

[JailHouseRock2]

Wow, really solid work guys, keep it up!

[dwardo]

edit: Geezus Matt, your post scared the shit out of me. Flashes of 300. Hallo.

Sweet.
Kenny: Anitos and Onitas are pretty much the red and whites here. (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2379073&postcount=86)
The white skin is a bit too strong, but I don't mind making them translucent. Just turn the opacity down. lol.

I like the colour pass. x2 check the left knee cap and left shin guard. Direction ???
Left arm looks a tiny bit long. But fark, yours be looking real man. You might have to overline our characters to match yours. Ha!

-I have to fix the abs for the minotaur, looks a bit flat. Like mine. :hahaha




Let me catch up on a few deadlines guys and gals. But I'll work on this on the weekend no problem.
Sarah, Kenny and Lindsay. You've got your stories straight sweet. Awesome. George and I will have to
scramble around your stories. But all in all, I think we're ready to relax.

Demi-god? Let's, make, it, a, she.... (just throwing it out there) :)

*Minotaur will be my base character. I'll work on the good and bad for those first.
Anito if time permits. Sarah can versus me with Otinas if she's up for it.
[The challenge has been set. Baaaam! :P].

[vshen]

Okay sorry guys for the lack of posts. There's just way too much work I had to get rid of. I tried my best to get updated with the emails but a bit stressing at the moment.
From what I understand am I still doing the Demigod?. This was what I worked on today. I tweaked my previous post majorly because I wasn't feeling the body type. Also I started to introduce color because it will be one of the major factors to determine good and evil.
I will try and catch up with story development now.

Demigod Concept

[sepu]

sorry dwardo, but I just can't repeat this kind of mood You got in Your anito. I'm not feeling up to anito/otino. dwarf, minotaur, prop strange creatures - sure, but scary spirits not really. normal human too, but this is question of skills, while anito idea is just beyond my abilities to create this asian horror mood..

will try to do more around my dwarf cleric/shaman/proffesional spiritual consultant :)

as for stereotype breaking - dwarfs breaking and fixing things are very stereotypical, aren't they? now lady dwarf playing with magic is a little less usuall IMHO :)

BRILLIANT demi-god! nice vshen!

[dwardo]

vshen: Take your time George. Don't stress out brotha.
Work is work mate, no two ways about it.
That demi-god? I like it. Double check on the arm length, which reminds me to do so also.
Gold? Gold? It looks like a bad guy with that mouth. As a good, probably make it with more human features.
If you can pull of a mouth like that as a good character, that would be hilarious. hahah. I like it.

Sepu: No problems girl, do what ever flows, I like all your scary stuff so far.
And thank you for reminding to aim for not so stereo-tips. I really need those.
Dwarfs finding magic recipes and women burning their own beards I'm so totally down for.

Sweet. I think everyone has their base characters set. vshen, are you sure you don't mind doing demi?
If you got something else in mind that's ready to explode, do that one first. :teeth: Whatever works mate.

Sweet sweeet everyone. Yea!

[vshen]

Dwardo yeah I'm cool with doing the Demigod, I'll try to explore both sides a little bit more and will also try to see some possibilities with minotaur idea.

[sepu]

I'm not sure if I gave this this idea only to dwardo or here, but what about making good characters standing, looking noble, bla bla bla, and bad ones moving/dynamic (like in berserk mode?)

this vshen's demigod looks for me good (bad-ass but good bad-ass), bad version can be scary and frightening while moving and fighting..

[dwardo]

Hahahaha ... wow, things sorted themselves out right at the end. Brilliant. On schedule. :P Just a clearer agreement on the story, and it should be all sweet.

Characters are ready to go.
vshen: Do realise that your demi will be fighting with my minotaurs. (Triplettes btw) and they don't shit around.
sepu: Awesome Sarah. Standing still for the good guys,
and in motion for bad. Maybe fighting motions. [Thank you for bringing it up]. Hmmm!


For my good, they're just going to be eating. Instant noodles in one hand, chopsticks
on the other other. Eyes glaring at one another. Mine, mine. gnarl. :teeth:

[sepu]

fine. I'm taking my fixed by dwardo horned "horse" for my druidic dwarf fat lady (they are just about same height anyway.. ok ok, horse is bit higher :P)

anybody want some animals I can help with?

[dwardo]

hahaha, brilliant Sarah. "Horse higher." teehee funny.
-Oh yea sepu, the foreground horn on your horse needs to be larger than the back. Make them twirl more.
I'mma do those with mine.
-In terms of animalis help. I'll work on my blocks some more and then post
for fixers.

-Oh silhouettes. Make sure your characters have something to show different.
My minotaurs needs an overhaul, but I really want to stay away from armor and weapons.
I'll make their claws more deadlier than they are already deadly. I'll give one a knife too, a shank. yes yes.

Weekend starts now for us Ozzie blokes, blaaah. But will check in tomorrow
to settle the story if anyone has beef. Do you have beef? [n salt and pepper].

[dwardo]

On the curious line.
What is everyone's listening listing? :teeth:

The only boogy atm for aggressive characterisation is:
GURD - Reload (http://www.blackcatgames.com/swarm/download_asi)


The boogy for good is, and will always be:
Tsutchie (http://www.myspace.com/tsutchie21)

/end transmission

[sepu]

for a moment Im deep in agressive NIN
have some idea for your minotaur - claws

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ9Ywarc_eM&NR=1

[AmbientSounds]

System of a Down [love]
Dead Kennedys
Dropkick Murphys
Ramones

For the Win.

anyways-

[sepu]

I played with my pony, now I will have to look for some ref of people sitting on horses and sit my dwarf lady where is her place :)

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8763/konikzbroja312small.jpg

[dwardo]

Sweet drops ladies.

Ambient: I reckon with hair. Braid(s) hmmm I don't know.
Split in two or one back? It's always in the eyes anyway.
If the eyes are right, she could be wearing a bikini and it'll work with me.
She's looking nice, even when bald.
I like the light/swift fawn, and I really love the morphing antlers idea.
Somehow your short little worm strokes seem to work in my eyes.
I can't pull it off though. I think it's your lighting. Sweet sweet.


Sepu: I love the details. This horse thingy looks solid for that dwarf.
And are you really going to keep that back rest? :P That is so mean.
The back legs are buckling already. lol.

Which reminds me.
1.Is everyone doing their own backgrounds/environment? [Which is optional btw] But I'll work to however yous want to for cohesion purposes.

I'd just like our goods and bad to be worked out first. Environments/background if time permits, true?

2. And if there's more time, and everyone isn't sick of it. I'd like to do a meal scene. Everyone is eating. Looking up from the table, or not.

/sketches later tonight.

Just throwing it out but I still like your fawn to be bi-ped.
n some perspective squashings and lightings. Please double check seps.

[sepu]

dwardo, that was useful overpaint, but please stop cuting off his tail :D :d :d :D

here is first try to put her on the.. ee.. muf-hor-gryffin?
I have made this animal a bit bigger, somehow cannot make her smaller.
well, it is a strong creature :D
horse too.
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/759/jezdziec3small.jpg
and some color..
edit: added shadows. any manipulation oin opencanvas sucks. good for sketching, not good for this extra touch.
blah
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2241/jezdzieckolor2.jpg

[AmbientSounds]

sepu she looks flat out ready to bust somebody's ass. And I love the claws on the back legs of the beasty.

dwardo, nice... I think after this contest I might play around with the entire deer body sans head plus woman torso. What do you mean worm-strokes? EH? Are you threatening me?? What am I a clown? Am I here for your amusement, do I make you laugh? Laugh like how? [lmao lady why are your knuckles bruised?? *BOOF* that's why] And I had forgotten that backgrounds are optional. Honestly I'm not very comfortable with enviros yet so I'm going to do all of her first and then with time permitting add some scenery. But I -had- planned on the scenery. ;)

vshen dunno if I said it before but that demi god is awesome.

SirKenSir really liking how yours is coming out as well, totally digging the pose/armor/palette.

[sepu]

AmbientSounds - thank you :) those claws are my fav too, makes it some hybrid animal, so I can make all possible mistakes with anatomy saiyng "this is how it is supposed to be!" :D :D :D
but really, it makes me feel this animal have some lion in the family.

can I play like dwardo - with your faun lady?
beware! one question coming: while demigod job is to be.. demigod, human is good plain warrior/berserker, anito/otina are magic by nature and troublemakers by proffesion, minotaurs are warriors, my dwarf is some kind of battlefield-mountain-druid-wannabe (and im planning bad side to be really bad ass XXXS size necromancer) - what is your faun ..?

that will make it easier to play with it now if you will assign for her characteristic already. for now I only know she is thinking herself superior, which is fine but didn't we all think like that? :) give her some nice job in this story :)

[AmbientSounds]

Haven't really thought too deeply into the story yet, was just trying to get a little bit of a feel for her background thoughts. I thought I would have her be a monk/preistess? of a nearly dead religion. She very idealogically inflexible and very rigidly good. (Please, play away with her)

I think the reason she would be evil (since we are supposed to make an evil portrait of the same character) would be that she mistakenly thinks herself SO morally superior and SO religiously fervent that there would be no way she can be corrupted... So she messes with some kind of dark minotaur magical item, thinking she can control it (for the good of the world or the group or whatever) and it twists her.

Edit: maybe the nearly dead religion she is head of had a huge goal of beating back the minotaur and they have failed horribly (obviously LOL). So she has a major grudge on many levels. Her fighting style I'm thinking is going to be very hand to hand and light. Um. My brain's still working I'll come up with more :P But in any case, she would definitely serve as a scout for the group.

[sepu]

:) nice! priestess or scout is good idea!

I played with scout idea body (just to maybe help you with any ideas etc ;) )
quick sketch:
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7528/faun.jpg

[AmbientSounds]

Thanks, really having issues today with getting her body right. Every pose I try she just looks too rigid. I will try one more like you just posted. You know, like she's kneeling to get a better look at tracks or something. oooooh maybe she has a short spear. XD cool.

Thanks for helping me get my brain going lol, I have a full day to work on this exclusively and I wanted to give it as much attention as I could.

Gonna change her face and give her more of an expression too methinks.

EDIT:

[AmbientSounds]

.....

[sepu]

good ones!! maybe I will try to do some dynamic poses(jump, fight this kind of thing) to help you :) drawing skinny ladies is IMHO much easier than fat ones. I was always doing anorectic characters.
trying to make fat one looking dynamic(my bad version of dwarf) will be simply a disaster :P

[Sirkenneth]

Wow guys, I dont know where to start! Ambiet- the faun/fawn? creature is looking great! I love the last update!!
Sepu-lets see more of these dwarves.
What is everyone else up to?
I need to do more color and armor stuff, and I guess some environment or something??
Kickin butt-lets be ready for production next week!

[dwardo]

Attention : Please
Attention : Please
Attention : Please

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2371664&postcount=4
1. Full bodied figure only [CHOW II rules] Please check how the sample character is. As long as all the body parts are shown, collectively. It should be ok.
2. With 3/4 of the character showing [Chow Guidelines]

Doh, I really wanted to have crouching postures. Like they're rummaging through a cooling camp fire looking for clues.
I suppose you can do multiple angles of the same character if you wanted to. Which I certainly don't. o.0

[dwardo]

Anyhoot,
Sweeet updates Sarah and Lindsay, halllo Kenneth.

*
sepu: Sorreeeiz, I didn't realise I kept cutting it off. 'twasn't on purpose. hehe
-How about making that steed just a tiny bit larger. Just a tiny bit.
I'll play around with it 'cause I feel his pain. haha
-Just wanted you to know they're triple z'ds, maybe give her a bit more rib cage and
take out that space in-between the right arm and torso.

oh sepu full bodied figure only, sorry. I've been glancing at everything, such a doozy.


*
AmbientSounds: Just have her occupied by something else on the side or back.
Through the eyes or the tilt of the head you can play around with her reaction endlessly. :)
n Nooooo you, are, not, a clown.



In terms of backgrounds and perspective, I could use some help with it also.
But KDPED will bounce off ideas and solutions when we come to.


Looking good everyone. <3



SirKenneth: I'm trying to think up of postures to surround your good guy with.
I was thinking you'd walked in on our camp, eating deer and tiny horse.
1 standing, 1 sitting on a rock, and 1 semi-profile view. Just a reason to practise
character creations really. hahaha.

[AmbientSounds]

waaaaait are you saying I can't have her crouching like that?? bewwwwwww ; ; lol


um. no, if I were a clown, I'd be more nimble

[dwardo]

It sucks I know, but I'm still going to do it with one of the triplettes.
[Don't tell, but It's the same character, just with a few differences here and there buahaha]

When a brown bear knocks at your front door, you'll be surprised how 'nimble' you actually are. Trust me.

If you've already fleshed out one crouching, just reason that they're twins. Huzzzah, simple, no?

[AmbientSounds]

K so just to be clear before I start getting ready for bed... It pretty much has to be a front-on standing pose exactly like the one that's an example?

[dwardo]

For now yes, but I could've sworn a team had their finals facing sideways.
I thought it was Team Baguette, but apparently I was seeing things.
They're not even finished like I thought they were. [What the hell have I been drinking?]

We'll get back to you on that one Linds, but front on looks to be the case. For now.
Maybe just a slight side would be acceptable.




gaaah, if I could, I'd make one minotaur hanging upside down a tree just to see if I'm able to.



Random tree dwellers for anyone with a tree in their background. hahaha.
She needs fantasy magic, stat. This is as close to Warhammers as I could get. o.0
50% size, but emails if you want the larger version. K K

[AmbientSounds]

*falls over dead long before the bears can get to me*

as;glkja sg;dlkj okay. twins it is . LOL. I'm glad I know now instead of after I fleshes that biwatch out. @.o Hell I'm sure I can even leave her face like I've got it and just have the body front on. maybe. :davi: LOL

You know, it's times like this that a dance fight would come in handy. You fight out your problems, and you dance your frustrations away. (unless you dance into the bear's cave. ....and well, when skunks dance it means you're about to stink a LOT. )

my brain has ceased to function in any kind of human fashion. Sleeeeeeeep :geekg:

[dwardo]

lmao

*picks you up by your giant feet and chucks you on the bed* Start that sheep count girl.
n Practise practise practise, GMS gives lessons. Indeed.

edit: some camp poses I was thinking of. Strawberry-Orange flavoured meat.
Tell me how I can make them scary. Should I go for weapons, or are they penetrating into your soul already?

[dwardo]

Poses.

Ok, as per example with the final CHOWS that I've seen, and going with one (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=156660) of trevor's CHOW threads - 'Team Zaxxon Chows Down' any of
those poses would do. Full front, or turned slightly to the side.

Ambient: I reckon your current head is ok, just not the crouching/hunching at the moment. [blaaaah, I should've made sure of it. Sorrieeez].

Since I've got triplettes to play with, I think I can get away with it, as long
as I have one frontal to the viewer.

:teeth: We're all set right. Let's get to it.
Critique and drop comments whenever we can.
3 timezones so feedbacks and drops won't be instantaneous. Unfortunately, but eh, we've managed so far. :) <3 <3 <3

[Sirkenneth]

I got carried away doing bull shit tonight I didnt draw any chow at all!! But tomorrow is a whole day off! So, I will finish one of tomorrow- and see if I can do any red liners on some work. I saw another team doing that - where they put red lines over the perspective or proportional problems.
For now, I will sleep also. Thanks for all the info on the rules dwardo-glad my angle is going to work!

:lounge:

[dwardo]

It's the weekend Ken, fark it man.
Sleep in, butcher a pig, whatever ever you know.
Hence my call for 1 weekend and 1 weekday to be no CHOW days. :D

Hi Sarah! :teeth:

[dwardo]

I'm not dead yet Monday. Hallo Hallo.

Set this to be your alarm & your ringtone.
This is breathtakingly awesome. I mean it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZY2mRG5mzg

Battle drums and violins with sweeps of testosterone undertones.
*Licks Rambo (Wacom pen) knife*

Mouse problems. Glitch problems still. Crom help me.

[Sirkenneth]

Dwardo- I got to a showing point on another color/armor for my fella. The armor is really generic gothic style- I want to throw a few changes in though. You guys gotta help me out!

[dwardo]

Nice variation Kenneth, I'll give it a run through asap.

-I like the feel of your colour selection very much.
I'll have to ask you to palette my grays for me.

-In terms of armor. I kind of like the sharper lines (ab plates) on the original. The helmet, if it were I, I'd probably personalise more.
Aggressive lines/gestures, I'll mock some up and send them along. I just have to get rid of a couple of things on the schedule.


-I'm currenly looking at bugaku masks for the anitos. I want to scare the living crap out of Sarah. Sarah, what scares you? :teeth:

[sepu]

the ring, the eye, shutter, grudge - this kind of asian horror is just way too much. even in full light and without voice(my way for scary moments I want to see) it is still staiyng with me until night falls and scarying me enough to be afraid to go to toilet.

working with necromancer. getting feelings, trying dynamic postures, almost there where I want to be

SOAD
You know that every time I try to go
Where I really want to be,
It's already where I am,
Cause I'm already there.

[AmbientSounds]

The kombucha mushroom people, sitting around all day! Who will believe you, who will believe you, let your mother prraaaaay. [okay done sorry lol]

Hey kenneth, with your second version the legs on that dude seem a little small for some reason. I'm cool with the redliners, I might play with that for a little bit [lord knows when I get mine back out there I'll appreciate the red lines myself].

Okay, back to the grind today. I feel like such a lump, it's almost one o' clock and I only rolled out of bed and took my boyfriend lunch like an hour ago. [fail]. I'm going to go heat up some leftover pizza, blast some soad on the stereo and get my butt back to work while there's still time [aka while I don't have to work this week and before school restarts]. :x :painting:

[sepu]

sugar is my favourite one, AmbientSounds, just after it are spiders and science. cannot get used to their new stuff.

and don't feel bad with your attitude toward your day schedule :) mine is almost same, except that I have to do things(like to change diaper of my little pooper). Im just doing them in zombie-mode.

I think I will watch some dawn of the dead to get inspiration for my daily movements and my necromancer dwarf..


wooooow. and now I have MIGHTY de-ja-vu.

[AmbientSounds]

I'd have to say I love those to death. And yeah it took me awhile to really get used to their newest stuff, but now it's taken hold of me too. Awesome song is Questions, google the music video for it [if you're interested lol ...NO DO IT. :P] because it is really good. Most of their vids are just them like jumping around and stuff, but this one's different.

I have little poopers too, but fortunately they are both cats so I don't have to watch them constantly. I kinda wish I could put diapers on them though. How old is your pumpkin?

DAWN OF THE DEAD! [or shawn of the dead, an epic movie in these modern times lol] wait, you have deja vu while watching zombies??? >.> crap, where exactly are you from, so I don't go there on accident and get eaten. [I hate deja vu sometimes, it weirds me the hell out lol]

EDIT: LOL Sugar came on as I was posting this

[sepu]

deja-vu was for the feeling of writing exavtly this text before. of watching this movie, of feeling like zombie trying to get feeling for drawing and such.
very possible IMHO.

sugar is nice video, but my total fav is spiders. spiders are just killing me.

and to satisfy your curiosity(which is killing for the cats, so keep them away now) Im from poland originally, a very berserk-zombie kind of country.

[Sirkenneth]

Dwardo-I am with you- the other guy looks way better! I will keep tweaking him. I might actually just finish him up-add an enviro. Ill keep you posted. I would appreciate some redlines on him (the gold one) so I can fix some of the anatomy issues! Thanks!
Keep at it everyone-we should be producing this week! go go go!

[dwardo]

I had a really hard time getting your proportions Kenneth.
How many heads is your construction, 'cause I don't count mine.
It's mostly 7 or 9+ on my end.
So, this is some random, starters I was thinking of.
Smaller head with more room for details. Which I haven't put. Ha!

[dwardo]

sepu:
For someone into Sepultura, I would've expected you to be more of a hard ass. All those movies
you mentioned are comedy man. So silly.
Hi Lindseeee.
And SOAD is a band, and those are lyrics. I didn't put it together. I thought you mis-spelt SOAP and you
were writing poetry. ok. I really need to get some beauty sleep.

Sarah, George, Kenneth, Lindsay, Vardo.
No one feel bad about the schedules and whatnots. This is a side shits and giggles project and that's that.
But I do expect we push ourselves further on this one. Sweet sweet. yea.

lmao. aaaa funny. update complete. You both should really look into listening to Roxette too.

/end transmission

[dwardo]

If anyone has any suggestion for some scary weird postures for the minotaur and anitos, I'm all open.
Anyone looking for gesture bouncing ideas, emails and we'll figure it out.

[snootchy]

no sleep for dwardo, muahhaah!

hey looking great fellas, keep up the hard work! pose for the minotaur, maybe he's rage running in fury towards the camera like an action shot of some sort




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Mission: To push our skills to evolve to the point of giving you visual orgasm.
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[Sirkenneth]

Dwardo- Thanks for those quick poses- I liked them! Here is one I rolled with for a little while See what you thing. Also some gestures for the mini? Maybe?
Snootchy- thanks for the ideas!
Hope you got some sleep dwardo!

[sepu]

here is what Im doing now, once I will decide on one, it will be fast to do my work.
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6347/necrocompilation.jpg

[dwardo]

Kenneth:
-I didn't find anything really with your second human.
Left shoulder maybe, or the size of the rib cage.
-Right knee cap is off centre, usually every piece of armor is custom to the wearer. But maybe he nicked it off someone. ha
-I would love to see his pissed off posture though, or he's reaction to
seeing my triplettes approaching on their rollerskates.

Sepu: All dwarves?
-I like the snake like hybrid.
-The peace character, is it a woman with breast plate? Maybe lower it a bit, and soften the shadows if it's not a plate.
-Fabric block ins/base for punk rock is looking sweet. Make sure to do some referencing with light on fabrics if the garments aren't thick.
-Twisting cape woman, make sure to keep her breasts closer to the pecks.


Nice progress everyone. Just make sure to leave ample time for the checks and tweaks. Eye break time really add up too.
I stare at a piece too long and my it starts playing tricks on me. Make me think I'm good. hahaha

[dwardo]

Kenneth: I finally figured out why I've been staring at this (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2394593&postcount=181) post for 5 minutes solid. No attachment. hahaha

[Sirkenneth]

Dwardo! ahahaha! Thanks for those redlines! Sorry I left you hanging on that last post! I HATE it when I do that! damn!
Here you go for real this time!!

[dwardo]

SirKenneth:
-oh shoot, carried over from the silouhettes, the left arm's too long and the
right is t-rex short. Is he wearing a groin sock, fark, fear the reaper.
The capes are always looking sweet. Just work on this one if you feel it Ken.
But I do really want to see the faces of your characters, esp the bad version.
Psycho eyes.

Cheers for the postures. I like the left. Body and arm, that's a bit much I'd say, but that's what I want too. I'll play around with it definitely.


oh yea, sepu, your necromancer dwarf summons little tiny rat monsters. If we have a lot of time left that is. ;P

Nice nice everyone.
edit: How to easily make your cintiq/tablet better. (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=154862)
All the pressures add up in the end, so take care of joints and selves yea. Alleviate all un-neccesary pressures.
No?
Who said that?
Who said that?

[Sirkenneth]

Sweet links and such dwardo.Thanks for the crit as well. I will work more on him I think, but the winner is going to be the gold guy. He is most finished anyway! I think you guys need to catch up!

Here is some dwarf I drew today- this help anyone?

[sepu]

nice dwarf face :)
if I want to use it I will have to first shave this beard off
dwarf ladies do not have beards
even if elven bastards are saiyng so.
they
DO
NOT
HAVE BEARDS

:D

[sepu]

almost finished :)
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/391/jezdzieckolor2copy5.jpg

planning to make face without veil and use it with 50% transparency, as a background..

now, for the lady-dwarf-necromancer-summoning-little-undead-evil-rat-like-creatures..

[dwardo]

:teeth:
sepu:
-the squiggles could be bigger on the planars facing the camera
but get smaller or tighter as it approaches the curved surfaces.
-Is she wearing spandex? [80s flashbacks, some good some bad]
-scales could be continued
-back armor, I didn't see it prior, but could contour to the buttom more? sorry I just used the warp tool.

-I think the tail should hang straight down, and no I wasn't going to erase it. hahaha.

The necro version of this dwarf could have a rat/goat face too [potion accident.]
Nice details Sarah. I like it.

[dwardo]

Still boobing around with the second twin's hand and posture.
I'm trying to make it look like it's just getting up after notice Kenneth's human.
My good versions will just have a hood over themselves. I want to do some cloth studies heh.

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edit: Muflon, muflon, thank you for that keyword Sarah, I never knew what it was called. :teeth:

[vshen]

Sepu: Nice design on the dwarf very original in it's design. I'd love to see the veil very transparent. Are you also going to add some scratches on the armour or give her any battle scars?

Sirkenneth : Love that dwarf face:)

Dwardo: Are you going to put some type of clothing on the Minotaur?

AmbientSounds: Really love that faun's face

Start of the day for me and I will be able to work on the demigod most of the day so I'll update soon:)

[vshen]

Here is a quick sketch of the good demigod head design.

[dwardo]

vshen: ohohohoho, he looks like a dirty fighter. Eye poker I reckon, I like it.
In terms of minotaur clothing, the bad ones won't, but the good guys have to cover
their ugly faces. So I was thinking some face towels or something.

The anitos are just going to be playing with colours and trying out/study on creating effects with Photoshop.

[Will update when I can! My mind is divided at the moment.]

Sarah: I'd like to keep my arm thank you very much. :P (Sorry we didn't pick up on it earlier.)

*backflips into traffic*

[Sirkenneth]

Sepu! Sweet I love it! Keep tweaking little things like Dwardo explained, and make an evil one. Great job!
Dwardo-I like how the Mini is going. I like the idea of some kind of face viel or something. I dont know how to make one good- Maybe make its hair white!
Vshen-Saweet. I like it! Definitely nicer than the other one. Little bit like Clint eastwood or something. He is wise and bad ass. But never too evil.
Keep at it! I will refine the gold guy some more! Maybe make a more involved inviro.

have we decided on the enviro yet??/ I kind of want to try a few. Let me know!

[dwardo]

Kenneth: white hair, maybe, I just know that they're still going to be ugly and scary. heh
For the mean time, I've been cleaning up the anitos. Good side.
Are we still open for the anitos (Asian mythology) to this Greek tragedy/play?

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Enviro wise, I was seeing dry summer land with occasional column ruins.
I don't mind trees and foliage, but they have to be dry also. :P Sweeping grassy plains works also. What have you in mind? Don't tell me it's something like a Waterhouse? :)

[dwardo]

The anito size will vary. They're there for composition asset, to ruin and or compliment. [The white is too strong yea?]
But I do like them as 30cm in height or something. Appearing on trees, pulling your hair.
Touching Sarah's ears, uninstalling my software and such. hahaha.

edit: I'd just like to get this off my chest, but these minotaur triplettes are pissing me off. They're not co-operating at all.
They fight their maker. [Me] One of them called me, in my dream, a 'jack-ass.' gaaaah!

[Sirkenneth]

Sweet anitos dwardo! They look great!
White hair or no- just make them happy. this one is not happy. DOnt worry about doing three either. Just do one, and a good one. Too much stress man. Remember we have to get getting this going soon.
Oh yes, dry summer land. I will work on that. There will be trees but not many. We'll just make it like Greece! aahaha!
Back to work then!

[dwardo]

I have to do three, sorry, or the very least, the two remaining are mourning the loss of
their youngest brother that your human has knocked out.
The two remaining will see that psycho demigod. The golden one. That's a cheat character right there. hahaha. But alas, the minos will take him/her out.
It's a Greek tragedy, 'twas already written. o.0

Enviro: I'm cool with giving dry summer land a go. More foliage if time permits.

[sepu]

enviro - ruins in the mountains? columns in the mountains? winter will give easyness of snow everywhere and such.

dwardo - thise anito are perfect. not much from mithology, but I got feeling we left main road to mythology long time ago. lets just trail in the woods and trust that anitos will guide us aways from minotaurs.

-minotaurs, good ones - maybe try to put beautiful masks on their faces, or hals face covering . venezian masks, fiesta golden perfect masks. maybe asian touch - what was this teater in japan.. kapudo, konuto.... kabuki!! they was wearing white masks, immobile beautiful white faces..?

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=9jh&q=venetian%20masks&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2289/2286580185_0cc7318965.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cVaQ72m4lGw/R6NkBM3ZQtI/AAAAAAAAA2g/H7LqNuPoUxs/s800/venetian%2Bmasks.jpg
http://img2.travelblog.org/Photos/9130/81771/f/504203-Traditional-Venetian-Masks-0.jpg

[dwardo]

Sepu:Buahahaham thank you for those keywords on masks Sepu. Much much appreciated. [I really have to learn and see more. Seriously]
Those bird like masks could be a nice soft touch to the minotaur's faces.
Ugly scary faces. Perhaps they secretly would like to fly away one day. [Cliche.]


Snow snow? Perhaps that's the transitional weather in the story where the demigod (evil) finally appears.
Great opportunity for illuminated characters/assets/magic and where the dark lighting will play tricks on the gamers.
(Like the Silent Hills. I scared myself silly. The ambience helped a lot too. The official soundtracks. Superb.)

Kenneth:The current anitos will probably stay like that. I'll see how much I can push the evil versions. There's no happy characters in my games man. Sorry. hahaha.



-off note:
The anito's skin, especially under the chin and chest area have animated textures much like an amoeba insides, which, the Unreal Engine 3 can handle. So this idea isn't too far fetched, for my part. Texturing wise. :teeth:
Animated with a super duper AI script that changes the colours depending on
the moods around them.

[AmbientSounds]

oh SHIT lol I love that our good guys look like heinous bastards. XD vshen, awesome, kenneth, saweet, dwardo (no boobing around, you might get your eye poked out), me likey, sepu, remind me not to piss her off.

Today is one of those weird days where I'm not exhausted for no reason and feel the need to crank up the volume, so before it's through I will have updates galore. I'm putting off my other projects (commish and a sculpture) until I make some massive headway on this today. I can't let you guys down, there's been hell lots of work going on in here! :cheerleader:

[shyeah, silent hill. I played the first version of that game as a kid and was scared shitless multiple times LOL]

Edit: okay, and this might sound weird, but I love that dwarf's boobs. Er. I guess I should say I love how you handled them- er. I mean that you actually get a really nice sense of roundness and shape. *sigh*

[dwardo]

Comee-sheeeio', say no more. We all have to eat bread, am I right guys? hawr hawr.

And I knew you were a busy girl with your portfolio buildup and stuff.
Lots of luck and good vibes getting into that Art course.
And I got your back with the anitos if you feel too drained to even sip one more cup-o-coffee.

-That said, I've always liked the expressions on your faces.
If you need body gestures, holler, anything to avoid working on the minotaurs. hahahaha. kidding Kenneth, kidding. :teeth:

Seps, check your inbox bro.

[dwardo]

heinous bastards 'cause badass goodguys always last longer than the pretty boys.

"lets just trail in the woods and trust that anitos will guide us aways from minotaurs."
It's not the minotaurs you should be concerned about, it's the demigod (good) that you
have to be wary of. 'HE' or she? has got too much power. :)

edit: random drop, 5 inch nipple hair, do they exist?

[AmbientSounds]

LMAO.


and yes I'm actually having difficulty with just a plain straight on pose. I forget what the verdict was, is slightly turned to the side a go?

...hm, lemme shrinkydink this down a little and I'll show you what I mean exactly by slightly turned (warning: she has no arms. violent battle injuries or something )

[AmbientSounds]

crap, and with that posted, I need to stop for about thirty and make my boyfriend some lunch before all this meat we bought goes bad. I hate that once I actually get into some kind of flow I have to stop for real life. pff. real life is for losers. *cries* LOL :davi:

[dwardo]

behehe.
aaaa
I'd say that's plenty good.
As long as at least 3/4 of the body is visible. I've seen others that 'ave turned them even more.
The rule I guess is to avoid people hiding their limitations. It's about pushing yourself to the next learning curve.
I'm doing my best with hands and knees, a good looking pair of ears can bite me, who needs 'em.

-I'd probably stretch her torso even more. Lithe and agile, like a hawt ninja.

[sepu]

guys guys, just look what howling loveboys are doing with postures and side turning and stop moaning :)

real life is for losers.
true true...

fixed rider issues, putting details. looking for nice ref of armor ornaments.
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9112/jezdzieckolor2copy5457.jpg

[dwardo]

farken hell those hooves are huuuge.
Ambient made me hungry.

[AmbientSounds]

lmfao, well hot dog vouchers for you then!

[sepu- no moaning here, just wanna stay within the guidelines :teeth: ] lovin' the eyes and headgear and the texturing along the handle of her fuckemup stick.

dwardo- I laughed at first at the size twenty, but now that I think about it, her evil version SHOULD have some bigger hooves (maybe not waffle-stompers, but still). to go along with her twisted and thicker horns, among other things. XP

She will lure her enemies into her deadly grasp using hotdogs on a long pointy stick

[dwardo]

Sepu: Don't forget to add delicate shadows on the face.
Your details I like, very much.

hotdogs on a long pointy stick
Like you do when finding meat for them killer eagles. You're slicker than you think. Big feet is overdone, how about big knees. Kankles maybe?

random * That's it, her expression is a classic lost deer. :P


Too human a pose? Maybe more a hunchback.
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I'mma get some sleep. I've had a headache all day, and I don't like taking any kind of pills. But do keep up the flow everyone. <3

[AmbientSounds]

DANCE FIGHT [lunch breaks are productive]

[sepu]

ambient, you destroyed me.

[AmbientSounds]

my apologies, destruction was not my intent. :steph: lol. yes I'm finally productive again, she just needed to jig out some of her aggression... I should have had her stomping hot dogs.

Edit: song that just came on: Deer Dance by System of a Down LOL

[sepu]

guess how suprised will be my husband if he will see this dancing deer on screen saver :D :D :D

[AmbientSounds]

[ LOL ]

Deep in the process of working out anatomy and values, she'll have clothes [and arms] and weapons, I just want to make sure that I can figure out her body realistically before I bother with the rest of that.

[sepu]

played a bit :P

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2939/teamchow2c12.jpg

[AmbientSounds]

mo mo mo

edit: lmfao just saw your changes and I was like... WTF I didn't upload a version with an alien??? XD yeah, like the changes, I'll fiddle more X)

[AmbientSounds]

wow... a background that I'm happy with for the first time ev4r. I guess now back to making her right and then clothing her. Even in summer the mountains are cold after all. ;)

sepu: I stole your shoulder and boobs configuration... -_- boobs are so stupidly hard to get right.

[dwardo]

LMAO
Nice start to the avo (afternoon) :teeth: :P


In terms of boobs, if they're not heavy (leveling the bottom of the sternum (http://images.google.com/images?client=opera&rls=en&q=sternum&sourceid=opera&oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi)) there shouldn't be that
much fat all around and they become more cone shaped, don't hang as much and tighter to the chest.

If they are heavy, they'd be more rounded (like you have now) but hanging lower
with most of the weight below. Profile view they would look like tear drops hugging the rib cage.

Niplay pointing direction, think of a balloon filled with water hugging the slightly oval shaped ribs. (top view)
The smaller, the tighter the angle (from top view) and they point more forward.
The heavier, the greater the angle (from top view) almost an acute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angle#Types_of_angles) angle.

The shape of the rib cage will give you the direction/position of the niplays, but there's
a few different species amongst us, so take it as a general rule. My general rule. :hahaha. o.0

I'm not sure how the Russian system figures it out. (Kenneth?) :teeth:


I've got to catch up on other work, but will work on this on the weekend. (Us 3 are 1 day ahead of you US.)
Speaking of weekend, have a good one ye.


I love that background Lindsay. Very much.
I find hands a pain but holler if you needs.



I think everyone is cool with their first portraits right, except for moi.
I'll SSSSh-mite these minos on the weekend. Diggity.
1 more week KDPED. One more week.
Take your eye breaks and don't eat too fast.

<3<3<3

[vshen]

AmbientSounds: lol at the dancing faun:) Looking real good and getting towards the finishing line. Background fits in nicely.

Here is my good demigod and playing around with poses.... and my evil demigod, still need to have a final pose. Might play around more with the designs a few more times before I start the final.

[Sirkenneth]

Hahahaha, you guys are so funny! I love everything that has been posted!
I think things are rolling along nicely! Ambiet-you are on the right path the post and background are looking sweet. Sepu-sweet demigods. The first one seems a little un balanced but its not much. Dwardo- I like the eating pose. But really. you dont need to do three poses!
I will post a more updated gold knight in a few hours. Back to it!
cheerio!

EDIT- here is a revised gold guy. Couldnt fix some anatomy issues so I covered it in a shield! Crit me please! I am going to get back to work on the armor- and also the enviro behind him. Just the WIP

[sepu]

"Sepu-sweet demigods. The first one seems a little un balanced but its not much."

a-ha...

[Sirkenneth]

Hahaha! lol, I meant vshen! lol!

Sorry Sepu- the dwarf shaman looks sweet! Keeprockin' it! :p

[dwardo]

I got to say, that pose is one of the banes of my art so far Ken. It kills me nicely.
But do keep working on this armor as we try and figure out that pose.

-If his knee was bent that high, then an angle has to compensate for it. So the foot would be in front of the other and on a higher ground.
-If he's standing straight leg, it looks to static and you'll have to adjust the shield angle.
-So a compromise is the only solution. The third one. Wood.

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Checkers and see if anything bounces in our heads. :)

[Sirkenneth]

Cool dwardo! Thanks! I was thinking the same thing.Something was wrong with the leg. Gotta go to school-I will be back tonoght to work on the armor more.

[AmbientSounds]

I'll try and play with it once [ if? ] I get rid of this migraine. ...Actually I don't think I'll need to, it looks like dwardo hit the note on his top picture. The higher foot just needed to be a little farther forward I think and the foot direction changed only slightly. It might look somewhat like he's resting that shield on his knee, but hell that thing has got to be heavy. :P Otherwise the lighting and armor is looking really tight. (and I mean tight as in badass and not tight as in overworked. ;) ) The palette I've had thought out in my head should go really nicely with what you've already got down, so. bonus.

sepu- aw lol :hugsmile: I'm curious as to what your dwarf will look like in evil mode. >:F

vshen- that evil dude needs to see a dentist in a serious way. Likin' the head tentacles too, I just noticed that. Yeah I agree the pose is a little off-balance, but I know you're still playing around. Lord knows poses stump me a lot LOL. I've always said it would be much better if we were all just floating heads.

dwardo- get to work you BUM. [ :hugsmile: ] and stop stealing my frikken hot dog vouchers. The next time you see a hot dog and go for it, you might find out that it's on the end of a big pointy stick. [ I wonder if I could catch eagles that way? ]


edit: lol and thanks for the boob analysis. I guess I won't waste a lot of time on them anyways because they are going to be supported and clothed. We'll see what happens

Okay guys we're looking awesome, I can't look at this screen anymore until I get this migraine under control. :x

[sepu]

first satisfyig idea of necro..
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2454/necro312.jpg

[dwardo]

*Will edit this out later, older bro's birthday. I'll be the one burning myself around the oven, ja.

-quick drops: I like it Sarah. Mind is too fast at the moment [can't think of dwarf proportions] but make sure that elbow is mid-way on her torso???
Back boob looks low and protruding too much ??? x2 check. [just doing a quick glance.]
and foreground foot looks too short. mwah, please x2 check.

-gahh, mind too fast. too busy. I have to baste, hmm it smells nice already. that's how I roll.

-Kicks Lindsay up the ass. Eh, no puking in her K. Bum and boobs are favourites. Chicken. Fried.Quack quack. Feel better girl. Migraine isn't your keyword for ...oh O!... is it? Feel better bro.


[will edit it out later - any grammatical, punctuation and spellings will be corrected soon. when hell freezes over]

[sepu]

buahahahaha
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6757/necro3121.jpg

[AmbientSounds]

lol no, migraine is my keyword for having a migraine. :P goofy. lotta weather fronts been blasting through here lately and that tends to set em off, dunno if they blow in something that I'm allergic to or what. But thx much better, hope your fried quack quack turned.

sepu- awesome XD

[dwardo]

sepu: lol. Sweets and now cookies, let's start a manhunt.
Ambient: It could be food that triggers it. Meat? Blood pressure?
But that's good it only lasted a day or two.


Did anyone see this thread Format and Guidelines (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=166849) worry - Jason Manley.
It's probably my anitos. gaaaah. [But that's why I've got multiple angles]
or Sepu's horsed dwarf. o.0 (I'll send a nice pm)

Anitos feel semi-finished.
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Please do me a favour and download this anito. Invert the colours with Photoshop,
or OpenCanvas (if it's supported) and see if you can see a face.
My monitor calibration feels suspect.
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[dwardo]

Format and Guidelines.

The framing ratio has to be at 2:3
Seps: Please crop your big boobed dwarf from a square frame to a 2:3 (portrait) frame ratio. [The competition bosses told me]
and I'll have to pick one of the anitos to be the one framed. I can't have 4 in one shot. hahaha
But I'll still be able to upload the same shot for the 'final burning thread' ??? <(what in the world is that? anyone? anyone?)

Gonna catch the last of the avo sun.

[sepu]

good one dwardo, I was getting in touch with bosses, but that wasn't perect communication as we both admitted we are lazy and tired and have to have CLEAR message otherwise got lost :)

2:3 frame ratio - nice to see it cleared

did you ask for my dangerous unidentified flying object? - if it's ok to be visible from side? I'm trying to do some sketching for more frontal view and just got tottally pissed up this noght(it happens when I just cannot get something right)
getting a GO on side view will save me lots of nervs..

[sepu]

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8242/anito.jpg

inverting colors gives this face some shadow of face, but lowering brightness and increasing contrast gives something like that

[dwardo]

In terms of the side view direction, I didn't ask, but 'Full bodied figures, please.' to me means no profile shots. They're too easy to do, only half the figure.
Email us what you're thinking and we'll figure it out, K, K. :teeth:


No lowering of contrast, that's cheating.
Make your imagination try and figure out the face and if it's smiling or not. :teeth:
Maybe I should take out a bit of the mouth. baaah, I'll make the bad ones scary.

[sepu]

what is cheating? for me using brushes others than basic ones with basic options is cheating :P playing with contrast and color panels are just the ways to find some solutions when feeling like going nowhere..

here is front view, first one I like (will not show you guys my bad ones, they are crap)
as said, I will try to go somewhere around mistical silent death mood of Brom pistures.. if possible, that is :)
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4244/necro5.jpg

[dwardo]

no :) I meant cheating using contrast to see the face on the anito.
That face you brought up actually gives me an Egyptian vibe. oooooo.

I like this posture a lot. Levitation and free floatings I always digs.
(I thought I'd never see a hot dwarf) teehee. 4 1/2 heads high are tough numbers to work with and make hawtness.

edit: Second look, her bottom legs look a tad short. They feel short in my eyes. o.0

[sepu]

:) inverting colors is not the way to see..
contrast changing is. then why not?

I hope You will go forward with what this face is - hungry. hungry for things we do not want to know about. not at all. and happy from seeing those things around..

here is little more work on levitating spellcaster dwarf.. hot one ;)
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6576/necro51.jpg

[dwardo]

I like it. <3
Although, since she's not foreshortened from top view, I'd keep her shoulders no wider than where her hips would be, if she was facing full forward.
(Pull her right shoulder closer to her body, and angle the arm behind her body so that
it's pointing to where her elbows would be, like in your first draft.

sweet sweet Sarah.

[sepu]

right arm can be in almost every position with this right shoulder.. at least it looks like that when I'm cutting it out ond playing with transforming.

anyways - for a moment I have enough, will get some brake from it. if You want to overpaint it - feel free :)

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5552/necro512.jpg
hour later she have bit longer hands.. wrong manicure salon that was.
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/9270/necro5124copy.jpg

[AmbientSounds]

niiiiiiice, those shoulder spikes and claws look freaky. X)

[Sirkenneth]

Wow! Sepu-That looks SWEET! The last claw one is a winner. I need to keep working on mine. But I am here....

[sepu]

I take it as a big GO! on this claw one :) wasn't sure if you guys gonna like that, as it is more in way of my own style of twisted creatures :)

just decided today for no good reason, to convince my husband to move to egypt.. next friday. you know... for good.
and as I'm good persuader, this plan got another GO!.. just now I'm thinking that above all preperations I will have to finish details on good dwarf and deatail bad one(this one is going to be fast and easy actually) in next 3 days :P

idiot I am.

[dwardo]

Yes to twisted creature necro-popcorn-munching dwarf.
I don't mind seeing the toe nails and big feet on this one too.

Thank you for the wings idea on the anitos sepu.
I might give them broken wings too. No one is perfect in this game. :)

This one is still being cleaned up. My lighting sucks and so do my colours.
Please dot point if you see anything.
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-I'm trying to make a face, but not using a face.
-The eyes aren't set in normal human co-ordinates, but just know that they're always watching you. Even the good ones, like this one right hurrrr.
-They're spirits, they don't really have any distinguishing marks or silouhettes (so this is the best that I could come up with)
-You feel their energy/presence rather than see them . But this one I can
definitely see. I'm sure I round brushed it in with Photoshop. hehe

[Sirkenneth]

Dwardo! Nice work man! This is great. So anitos are finished! Sweet.
They definitly add a big element of high fantasy!

[snootchy]

hahaha, interesting take on the necro-popcorn-munching dwarf!

I think some places indicating some kind of form even though they are spirits will help ground the character a tad and also the thing about making a face but not really, i think it would help to do a rough face first then distort things the way you would like it to distort, not sure but just an idea

keep up the great works fellas, doing great almost there woo hoo!!




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[dwardo]

High fantasy but I need to see it lined up with everyone elses. Maybe I need to tone the
whites and add some puke green as replacement or something.

edit: Cheers Mike, I don't know, maybe a trillion eyes would make it look weirder.
They are ancestor spirits anyway, or some kind of tree spirit. You know how Asian mumbo jumbos are. hahaha. Trillion eyes, hmmm, I just gave myself an idea. Yea!

[sepu]

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http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/496/teamkdpedanitotroublema.jpg
update on bad manicure
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6595/necro51244.jpg

[Sirkenneth]

Sepu-SAWEET update! I like your ideas on the spirit, and the dwarf witch is just awesome!
I will update later today!