Team Chow II: Team Supreme

[Liffey]

This is the thread where Liffey, DeeLock, gabyness, and DefiledVisions plot their way to the top of Team Chow II!

[Liffey]

So it looks like our first ideas are going to be heading towards either 1930s or 18th Century France... not for sure which, if either, but here's some references to get the juices flowing. :)

First some images from 18th Century France:
http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv269/LiffeyArt/18thCentFrance.jpg

Also, here (http://fuchsias18thcdress.wordpress.com/2009/02/) is a blog I stumbled upon devoted entirely to 18th Century French costumes. There's a ton of inspiring stuff on there. Pretty lucky find if I may say so. :)

Here are some images set in the 1930s.

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv269/LiffeyArt/1930s.jpg
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2009/20090612.jpg

[Liffey]

Here are the offical rules, just so we can easily keep them in mind when in this thread:


Here are the rules!

1. Teams of two MUST create at least 4 portraits, teams of three or four need 6 and teams of five need 8. You are perfectly welcome to create more images that the requirement if you feel your team is up to it.
2. You must take a random selection of the choices below. Please don't do 4 elven fighters, or only orcs, for example. Please take a randomized selection. If you would prefer me to give your team a specific assignment, I will generate the selection for you. If I see teams doing more select parties, then I will request you to change to something more random.
3. You must follow the format provided. See it below, please!
4. You must do a LIGHT and a DARK version for each character, please! This means that for each character you need two portraits.
5. You must submit a paragraph about each character. Do a short write up for each character you create. I want to see some interesting, stereotype-breaking stuff here, folks!

PLEASE SELECT ONE OF EACH CATEGORY FOR EACH CHARACTER.

Gender: Male / Female

Race: Human / Elf / Half-Elf / Dwarf / Orc - (and anything else you can think of!)

Class: Fighter (Barbarians, Knights, Dark Knights, Brawlers, etc) / Thief (Assasins, Rogues, etc)/ Spell Caster (Wizards, Sorcerers, Druids, etc) / Healer (Priest, Cleric, White Mage, Medic, etc) - (feel free to make up something for this, too)

Alignment: Good / Evil (please do both for each character)

YES, THESE LOOK LIKE STEREOTYPES. IT IS YOUR JOB TO BREAK THEM. I want to see some really interesting, kick ass stuff! :D


This means we need to create 3 characters, and make two full bodied portraits for each, one good and one evil. We are supposed to stay close to High Fantasy, but a little genre blurring is allowed. I think there are definitely some things from 18th Century France that could be incorperated. I don't think I've ever seen orcs/elves/dwarves in French costumes, so that would be a good way to seperate ourselves from the crowd. 1930s would be a lot more dificult, but if there are any ideas, post' em. :)

[Liffey]

Time for some high fantasy reference. Here's the Wiki page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_fantasy). Images to come.

[DeeLock]

So I love the idea of a female rogue.

I'm gonna do some drawing :D

[gabyness]

Got some more 18th century refrences

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1750-1795_in_fashion
http://www.siue.edu/COSTUMES/COSTUME13_INDEX.HTML#Plate77

[Liffey]

I was just thinking about whether it would be better to make a story, palette, etc. first or to just start drawing characters, and I think I agree DeeLock, for this it'd probably be best to just start drawing and see what comes up. Hopefully we'll find things in our drawings that will inspire a story and mood and such. :)

Although, since most of these references depict people with high social status, it'd probably be a good idea to focus our characters in that area, although having a lower status character would add some good variety (maybe that rogue female).

Anyways, time to get to work. :D

[DeeLock]

I've been busy:

[Liffey]

Awesome, good work! :D

I think it'd be cool if that rogue female you were talking about wore some kind of cool mask like those you found, especially the feather one. :]

[DeeLock]

Team Thundercats is doing 18th Century France too.

What's weird is that they were also talking about doing 1930's before the brief came out :P

[Liffey]

o_O*

Oh well, that's okay. I imagine we'll both end up with something pretty different anyways.

[Liffey]

Couple sketch ideas for that female rogue character.
http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs48/f/2009/213/9/9/2_character_sketch_portraits_by_theoryC.jpg

[DeeLock]

sketches for female theif:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/deelock27/fhumantheifthumbs.jpg

Anyone have ideas for other characters?

We need 3.

[Liffey]

Crit: I think as a thief it would be hard for her to move quickly in that outfit. Also, she probably wouldn't be wearing high end clothing like that anyways. Also remember that this is supposed to stay somewhat in the realm of high fantasy, so try to blend the two genres. :)

[gabyness]

uhmm..not really familiar with the high fantasy sorta thing but i was thinking n a dwarf as a priest? i dunno?
http://i30.tinypic.com/2euhkes.jpg
needa think more..

[Liffey]

DefiledVisions has just joined our team! This means we need to come up with one extra character. Honestly I was wanting to do an extra one anyways. More to come later today.

[DeeLock]

Dwarven Cleric is a bit of a cliche. Try thinking about mixing up the method of healing and the race.

[DeeLock]

Update on the design:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/deelock27/fhumantheifsketch1.jpg

This a better direction?

[DefiledVisions]

Hey guys, Thanks for leting me join in. Really great start you've got here!

I'm wondering, since the topic is one of my favorite themes.. basically all I do is high fantasy stuff :P Have you decided on which characters to do allready? I guess we're not allowed to do like 8 different kinds of priests or so?

in other words...

1. Which characterclasses/races have allready been decided on to make?

2. 8 characters, does that mean that the team together is supposed to come up with atleast 8 different characters? since we're 5 this means, some of uss can make 2 characters or even 3 if we want, while others stick with 1.. or Do we all design 3 characters each? (coolest imo) :)

3. incorporation 1800th century french fashion is a really cool idea, is that the style we're sticking to? just need to have that clear before I get sketching. Also having a style like this can easily make it more steampunk than fantasy. I think the making the archetype clear is most important, that it instantly is a warrior in the viwers eyes, or a spellcaster. Something in style with the reference image Daestwen posted, yet with some 1800th century influence?

Hmm.. not sure what else im wondering about :D would love to know what you have decided on making.. is it cool if I start with a druid-type character? race not decided yet.

[DeeLock]

Hey DefiledVisions! Welcome to the team!

In response to a couple of questions you have.

We haven't decided on every type of character that we are going to do. It's been a little more free-form so far and we're all brainstorming ideas on different characters. So far I'm working on a female rogue, it looks like gaby is working on some sort of cleric...hmm...

Maybe we should spend some time talking about characters. It would add a lot to the cohesion of the final product. I have a couple of ideas but I'm not sure what everyone is working on individually.

In regards to your other questions, we only need 4 characters in all but we need to do two different variations of them, one good, one evil.

I think that the style we have picked out is pretty set in stone but it's pretty broad, ranging from pirates to nobles.

A druid is fine by me, cool idea.

I have a few ideas for more characters but we only need 4 so I'll just list them, I'm open to do anything really but I think we should decide as a whole what the group wants to do.

My ideas:

Human or Elven Female Rogue
Orc or Dwarven Male Pirate (fighter)
Not sure on race or gender but Upper Class Sorcerer
Cleric is good too, I like the idea of him being Roman Catholic :P

[DefiledVisions]

Oh Thanks for the clarification! I understand now.. 8 portraits, 1 good and one bad of each character? so 4 characters with 2 portraits of each, allright :)

Cool setup so far.. female rogues are allways welcome ;) .. Pirate! fits really in with the 1800th century incorporation... Though we should have a discussion about characters. Since we don't have to think in actualy adventure terms, or a real in-game working setup, anything is available.

regarding the druid, when considering the style, it won't really be easy. An alchemist could also count as a sorcerer class.. I'll try to post some of the ideas I have later.

[Liffey]

Keep in mind that if there are multiple races, they may not all have the same aesthetic theme. There should be something of that 1800s look throughout, but it may surface more evidently in some races than others.

I think your latest sketch is definitely an improvement, DeeLock. I'd like to see what she looks like with one of those masks you posted earlier. :)

I'm working on a couple characters right now, both a brute type character (a made up race, vaguely feline looking), and a human female thief. I know you're already working on that DeeLock, but maybe we could combine their best parts, or maybe use different parts for the good and evil versions. I think I may try some kind of demon cleric or something next.

Bad news though: the computer I have Photoshop on got a nasty virus that I'm not sure how to get rid of. It's going to be a little more difficult for me to post now, but I'll do what I can to get my sketches on here as soon as possible. I'm looking forward to getting feedback.

[gabyness]

hey guys
i think that maybe deciding on what kinda chars were gunna design first would be a good idea so were not all over the place
i guess?

[¿Dubious?]

hey guys I just posted basically the same thing over at Thundercats thread but Daestwen said some pretty specific stuff in the main thread about this being high fantasy and although Wikipedia doesnt give it a time period she said it was late dark to early middle ages. This was posted specifically in response to someone's question about firearms, which she said were not allowed. Unfortunately the middle ages end around the 16th century and I would hate to see you guys put a lot of work into an 18th century concept and get screwed because of it. Again I could be wrong about this and I wish you the best of luck.

[DeeLock]

Thanks for the heads up, dubious... I've asked for clarification, but I did read the wiki before hand and it says high fantasy is everything from LOTR to CS Lewis to His Dark Materials, and those are all in wildly different time frames. So based on the definition of High Fantasy I think we're kosher, and the brief doesn't specify a time period.

I wouldn't worry.

[Liffey]

We're not doing straight up 1800s France anyways (I don't think), we're just using it as inspiration to create a unique spin on high fantasy.

hey guys
i think that maybe deciding on what kinda chars were gunna design first would be a good idea so were not all over the place
i guess?
It might be a bad idea to immediately pidgeon hole ourselves right off the bat. Let's continue to draw for a bit more, and then we can whittle away from the pile into something that is interesting and fairly cohesive.

Oh, and computer fixed. :)

[Liffey]

Here's the sketches I did. The big guy is supposed to be a new race. I wanted to give him a little bit of a feline look. This is more of a base, I could add accessories and stuff. The girl is my take on the female rogue/thief/pirate. I like how her head turned out, although her body is a bit generic right now, and almost looks more Spanish, which could be okay depending on where she's from. I'm not sure if she should have pants or a skirt... and I got lazy with the pattern there. :P

Anyways, here's what I was thinking for some specifics on the big guy: Among this race can be found the ultimate warriors, reknowned in strength, agility and speed. Yet, they have never been organized or interested enough to try and claim any global power; they are content to serve others. Once one has begun to work with a master or partner, they become fiercly loyal and defensive. Once attached, they often become blinded to the moral standing of their master or partner. However, they are generally well aprecciated for their own moral standing when on their own.

Not sure where I'm going with that, it's just what I was thinking as I drew it. Feedback?

[DefiledVisions]

Agreed! Some more brainstorming before deciding on what to stick with. The real problem in my eyes is that we're 5 and the final only calls for 8 images. 10 images would give each of uss a character to do. Oh, and nice that the computer works again ;)

[Liffey]

I don't think that there's a rule against doing an extra character, but I'll ask.

EDIT: The rules say "at least", so we could do one more. It's cool if everyone does their own, but I want to make sure that no on gets too attached, since in the end we should all contribute to each character a little. One person may come up with the idea, but it may be someone else's pose or accessories that end up in the final version.

Also I think it'd be cool to come up with stories about why there are good and evil versions of the characters.

[DefiledVisions]

Here's the sketches I did. The big guy is supposed to be a new race. I wanted to give him a little bit of a feline look. This is more of a base, I could add accessories and stuff. The girl is my take on the female rogue/thief/pirate. I like how her head turned out, although her body is a bit generic right now, and almost looks more Spanish, which could be okay depending on where she's from. I'm not sure if she should have pants or a skirt... and I got lazy with the pattern there. :P

Anyways, here's what I was thinking for some specifics on the big guy: Among this race can be found the ultimate warriors, reknowned in strength, agility and speed. Yet, they have never been organized or interested enough to try and claim any global power; they are content to serve others. Once one has begun to work with a master or partner, they become fiercly loyal and defensive. Once attached, they often become blinded to the moral standing of their master or partner. However, they are generally well aprecciated for their own moral standing when on their own.

Not sure where I'm going with that, it's just what I was thinking as I drew it. Feedback?

Sweet sketch! I like the design of the big guy, I somehow get a feeling that he is one of those who got lost in the woods as a kid and got raised by bears or wolfs.. haha, maybe that could be something to build him around?
He looks like a strong warrior, some badass gear and we have one hell of a fighter, the other teams don't stand a chance 1 to 1 :P

Is the rogue his partner? An idea just came to me, if the druid concept is chosen as one of the 4.. the easiest would be if we were to do 5 characters since we're 5 people.. anyway, on topic, he could be the partner, taken that he is one of those primal humans. This is just a thought, but he was raised by bears or something, really strong and stuff.. no human contact, met the druid in the woods, became close friends. Druid taught him how to read and stuff, and since he can speak with animals they also communicate in other ways etc.
.. and as evil partners they could look really badass with lots of cool items, like bear heads and some classy 18th century accessories etc.

The rogue reads more as a bar-maid to me.. I think some more slender clothing would do it. Since rogues tend to work silently and secretive, a dress is not the best to wear, more like cat-woman.
As for my own ideas.. Will have some sketches later this evening.

Nice work so far!

[DefiledVisions]

I don't think that there's a rule against doing an extra character, but I'll ask.

EDIT: The rules say "at least", so we could do one more. It's cool if everyone does their own, but I want to make sure that no on gets too attached, since in the end we should all contribute to each character a little. One person may come up with the idea, but it may be someone else's pose or accessories that end up in the final version.

Also I think it'd be cool to come up with stories about why there are good and evil versions of the characters.

agreed, also what I had in mind, in the end it's a touch of the entire team in each character.. and I just made up a story for you to work more with regarding your furry feline-bear-man-thing :P

[Liffey]

I like it, also good points about the female character. Looking foward to seeing your druid. :)

[gabyness]

http://i26.tinypic.com/2cypq91.jpg
boring pose boring pose boring pose
but i was thinking about liffey's rogue/thief/pirate design and defiledvisions suggestion that her clothes should be more slender.
uhm dressing her in mens clothes?

[Liffey]

Don't worry about the pose yet gabyness, as long as it gets the idea across. For now try going for something more interesting... looks pretty bland at the moment.

DefiledVisions, were you thinking of the druid as someone who was looking after and caring for the big guy, or more as someone who was using him? That could change what accessories I give him.

[papervampire]

hey guys cool stuff going on in here. i'm actually not sure what I was thinking getting involved cause I'm heading off to college in a couple weeks and I am mad busy eek. however I'd hate to bow out on you. would you guys mind if I'm not too active in the conceptualizing process. maybe you could all rough out the characters and then I could finalize one or do a dark/light version or something. or even if you guys had a sketch you wanted me to work from and make a final picture out of...

sorry guys, I didn't realize how busy I would be.

[Liffey]

We can work something out. I don't think we'll have any shortage of concepts if you'd rather just work on a final.

[DefiledVisions]

Don't worry about the pose yet gabyness, as long as it gets the idea across. For now try going for something more interesting... looks pretty bland at the moment.

DefiledVisions, were you thinking of the druid as someone who was looking after and caring for the big guy, or more as someone who was using him? That could change what accessories I give him.

That could differ, his light version could be the caring one, while the dark version could be the one using him. I'm sorry the sketching is a bit delayed. Bear with me :)

[papervampire]

cool Liffey. I would even be open to a collaboration where we hand a picture back and forth at stages. sorry again, I'm just swamped preparing to move my whole life to another city. like I said I don't know what I was thinking.

[Liffey]

That could differ, his light version could be the caring one, while the dark version could be the one using him. I'm sorry the sketching is a bit delayed. Bear with me :)

No worries. Anyways I was thinking that maybe the druid is wanted by a noble who owns the forest, and the druid is using the big guy to protect himself. Or maybe in an alternate story, the noble is a hunter trying to track down this legendary creature (maybe the last of a missing race?), and the druid is trying to protect him. I'm trying to think of how DeeLock's thief might fit in... maybe she's on the hunter's crew but is providing the druid with the crew's goods behind the hunter's back? Or maybe she pretends to befriend the druid in an attempt to lure him in?

Gotta say that I like the possibility of this story working on a small scale. They tend to be way more interesting than stories based on battling nations or "It's the end of world in this video game, holy shit!"

Also, papervampire: I can see from your sketchbook that you know how to make a good pose, I'm sure that's something you could do from our concepts that wouldn't take a whole ton of time. If you wanted to do the linework for some of the final pieces, I'm sure the rest of us could take care of the full rendering (which you're welcome to help with too of course, if you have time). Let me know what sounds good.

[DefiledVisions]

Papervampire nothing to worry about at all! I can't imagine what it's like though.. is it like all the cheap college-movies we get shipped over to sweden? :P with all the sexy girls and the huge parties as in american pie? college seems so fun! haha
It will be a whole new experience for you, so many new things you can't really prepare for, else than geting into the mood. So really take all the time you need. And man your sketches are nice!! checked your sketchbook. Arrh, would be really nice if you could get some more time with uss.

Liffey sounds like some really interesting stories. So far we have 4 characters that are in a team of some sort. What they're doing we don't know yet. Rules say nothing of having the work together as a team.. just that each character needs background info.
Though it is a lot easier to write that info if they're grouped together. Question is, what are they doing, where are they heading?

Druid and the Protector guy allready have some sort of background info, the rogue has yet to come into the picture, same goes for the cleric.

I had some thoughts earlier about the druids relationship with the protector. Being the last of a race, or just a small race looked down upon, seen as 'outcasts' or something would give him a reason for not liking, or being unsure in human company. I designed the druid as a half-elf, but want to give Orc a shot, since they generally are stupid in fantasy, I want to break the stereotype and have a gentle intelligent more human orc.
Anyway, the druid is also an outcast, being a half-race or an outsider race. I thought that the story could be something like him one day bumping into your guy, both being alone and outcasts for being different, they quickly become close friends.

The story has great potential since each character can have a really interesting background. Each character could have a background told and then how they ended up where they are today.

For example:"Born the son of a darkened elf, x was regarded as a shadow in the family, a shadow of shame looked down upon. After his mothers death, the only warmth he ever felt was lost and the royal blood of human ceased to mean. As his family proclaimed him a burden upon their tree of nobility and his filthy blood a curse he ran away from what onnce was dear to him, into darkness. Following the only trail his father left behind for him, x set out on a path of hatred. His heart fueled by years of hatred he came to despise his family and humanity".. blablabla.. finds out more of his father and his elven heritage, special blood, nature speaks with him.. learns the way of nature, ridding his heart of hatred, seting out on a journey finding out more of his past. finding the lonely guy, first friend, teaming up and heading somewhere. Just a thought :) .. or just building more around your story, acutally that would be really cool!
How about this: Wanted by a noble, a noble in his own family. Why? for stealing something of great power, given to his mother from his elven father. The family used it for their own purpose after her death.. and years later he found out what it was etc. and stole it back.

[Liffey]

Interesting ideas, and nice sketch... I was actually considering something similar about that orc.

Oh, and college is nothing like the movies. :P

[gabyness]

loove the sketch for your druid! [:

[DefiledVisions]

Gabyness thanks! I like it too.. but lets not get to comfy yet ;) still have some other approeaches in mind. Hows it going with your ideas?

Liffey ... college ... not... even... resembling the movies? :( me sad. Haha, on topic, do you think the whole outsider relationship could work? a half-orcelf.. or is it orc half-elf? could be really cool. Will post some more soon.

this is so much fun.. And we need 8 portraits right? so have to decide on 4 characters, so far the druid-bigguy relationship works pretty good. Though there's so many other possible characters and teams to create. Go crazy! Half lion insect-human man-things in armor weilding devastating 2handers could also work :P

[Liffey]

Maybe we could go for a more civilized orc, and could play that into the hunter I mentioned earlier? Like this orc and his hunting companions have a good reputation with the men who want the druid caught, so they hire this band of upstanding orcs (or half-orcs if that happens to be the case) to search for the druid... or maybe they're searching for the big guy. Still need a way to incorperate DeeLock's thief... maybe the men don't entirely trust the orcs, so they send this thief to spy on them? I don't know, maybe DeeLock can come up with a better idea for that one.

[DefiledVisions]

sounds like a great plot Liffey. Definitely got something going here. Just wanted to tell you guys I got the flu with fever and shit. Can't really do much at the moment. Hopefully my strength's back in a couple of days.

[Liffey]

So I'm starting on a more fully rendered pic of this big guy (should really come up with a name..), I'll post my process as I go.

First I just play around with value composition, with only vague ideas of where body parts might go. Mainly aiming for a mood (since I knew I wanted to make this the evil version). Then I start to outline to make sense out of the value mess. Critique so far? Not sure what I'm going to do with the legs yet, and I should probably add some accessories. His hands are going to be dragging some of his prey :o

[Liffey]

Expanded the canvas and included some basic anatomy lines to see where everything goes. I'm not going to render the men very far (they're going to be shrouded in darkness anyways), so I didn't worry too much about them.

[Liffey]

I'm gonna take a break for a bit, but here's my rendering so far. Gonna keep it to value only until we decide on a color palette. Still need to add some accessories though...

[DeeLock]

Sorry for not being active more you guys.

My computer broke and now I have no way to do any digis, i'll try and get some sketches scanned soon but I'm having big troubles figuring out how to work around this no computer situation.

I did just order a new comp a few days ago, thank Jesus, should be here this week or the next.

[gabyness]

i love what you have so far liffey [:
and i have a ques. is the orc you guys are talking about going to one of the characters?

[Liffey]

Sorry to hear about you situation DeeLock... just keep working on your design and show us whenever you have a chance.

Thanks, gabyness! And I guess we'll use the orc unless we think of something better. :)

I took a quick stab at a design for the orc. It's a half orc who wants to fit into a peaceful society... however one major deformation on his body has left him rejected. Perhaps someone skilled in magic could help him?

[Liffey]

One more thing guys... The time period for the contest is 1/3 up! I was hoping we'd have our characters thought out by now, but I know some of you have been having things get in the way which can't be helped. Anyways, let's try to pick up the pace if we can! I think if we could have our characters completelt thought out by the end of the week and ready to start working on final poses that could leave us enough time for rendering... but remember, we need at least 8 portraits, so that's quite a bit of work to do in two weeks if we want them to look nice.

[Liffey]

Here's another very quick design for that orc. (I know the single shoulder pad is really overdone, but in this case it has a practical purpose, to cover up his deformity). I'm kind of liking where it's going, but I need some feedback. :)

btw, I'm going to be really busy the next few weeks. Working 6 days a week, 12+ hour days, plus getting ready to go back to school. I'm gonna get everything done I can though, so bear with me.

[gabyness]

I reaaallly like the design/idea for the orc [:
He looks better/more interesting with the shoulder pad then without i think

[gabyness]

Heres another idea for the rogue character:
http://i31.tinypic.com/2wd337p.jpg

[Liffey]

Well guys, the weekend is here. Was hoping to have near final designs by now... I'm going to start doing the portraits for my 2 characters, I hope to see more on theif and druid soon! And thanks for the sketches, gabyness, they have a good look going... a bit generic right now, but can easily be spruced up. :)

Trying out more stuff with the orc design. Sorry for the quick sketches... Trying to get what I can done before work.

[Liffey]

We're halfway to the deadline! Lots of work to do yet if we're going to complete this (which we ARE, dammit).

Here's a couple rough ideas for the good versions of the orc and the big guy. I'm thinking we could maybe have near overwhelming black, cloudy backgrounds for the evil versions, and almost children's bookish backgrounds for the good versions (especially the big guy, who can be both cuddly and terrifying):

[Liffey]

Did some more work on the big guy (need to find a name, ack..). So far they don't look much like eachother in terms of style, I'll need to work on that.

[gabyness]

i really like your idea of the different bgs for both good and evil [:
and your progress on the orc and big guy are really good!

i gotta start drawing

[DeeLock]

So i'm not really sure where our original concept went...

What characters do we have in the making right now and why is Liffey doing 2?

Rogue wip:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/deelock27/goodtheif.jpg

[gabyness]

I think that the characters we have are your rogue, liffey's big guy and orc and defiled's druid

[DeeLock]

BOTP:

So i'm not really sure where our original concept went...

What characters do we have in the making right now and why is Liffey doing 2?

Rogue wip:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/deelock27/goodtheif.jpg

[DefiledVisions]

DeeLock - that's a great start, something makes her look flat though. I can't put finger on it but something with the corset doesn't fit with the angle we see her dress from.

Sorry for not checking by guys, I was sick for a week and I'm all fresh again. Don't worry about it Liffey, we'll finnish.

[Liffey]

DeeLock: I went ahead and started working on another character because we just needed to get this show moving, and I wasn't seeing much input. I'm not saying my two characters need to be final, but there's only two weeks left, so I'm trying to keep as active as I can with this. As for our original concept, I do need to integrate that into the orc more, but since the big guy is a bit of a loner I figured he may not be influenced by fashion.

Critique for your character: Her outfit seems dificult to move around in, and doesn't really translate into a rogue character. I think if you integrated some of gabyness's sketches you'd end up with a more mobile and unque looking outfit, that would also be more likely to be seen in a high fantasy setting (remember, we're not going for all out France... the assignment is traditional high fantasy, so we want just enough of that French taste to make us identifiable).

[DefiledVisions]

started on my good druid. all messy linework for now.. will add items and such now, and define things.

*edit* added some equipment, right now he's up in a tree, but I think I'll portray him differently. Got a nice idea, also him looking away from the spellcasting makes no sense - so will probably have him facing what ever he is doing.

[DefiledVisions]

and now for some colour. Still no idea where to go with this, I've got the mood I want so now to just make the character stand out

[Liffey]

Looks good, I'm intrigued to see where it goes. :)

You probably already know this, but to make the character stand out, you're going to need some kind of contrasting elements... for example have the background as primarily cool colors, and the character in warm colors... also make sure that the background isn't exceedingly detailed.

[DefiledVisions]

Thanks for the tip Liffey, I allways forget such things when it comes to background versus foreground.
Also I was a bit bugged with the colouring, I think they're too vibrant, which gives the piece a cartoonish feel.

Will have to sleep on it, some dreams and all will be good :P

[gabyness]

heres another idea for outfit design for the rogue..
http://i30.tinypic.com/14ch0ew.jpg

[Liffey]

Hey guys, sorry for my absence. I haven't had access to a computer for more than a couple minutes a day for the last week, and I just now got back to school. I'm going to be working overtime this week to make sure we finish this.

[DefiledVisions]

Thats great to hear Liffey! I think I'll finnish the good version of my druid tommorow, and then do start on the evil.
I was so into painting I kinda forgot our 1800th century theme.. It's not too late to fic it up though. Planning on re-designing his chest thingy anyway :)

[Liffey]

Here's a sketch for the evil orc. Dunno where I'm going with the background. Anyone can feel free to do what they will with these orc sketches; I'm gonna work on finishing the big guy now.

[Liffey]

Okay guys, here's the situation: We've got just a day or two left to finish this. I'm going to have my evil big guy done by tonight, and the good big guy done by tomorrow morning. I'll then do what I can on the orc. Either DeeLock or DefiledVisions NEEDS to be done by tomorrow night. That would give us 3 characters. I reeeeeally hate to say it, but if we only get 3 characters done, we'd have to kick out papervampire (since he hasn't contributed yet), lowering us to 4 members and 3 required characters. It would be GREAT if both of you could finish and we wouldn't have to do this. Maybe you guys are super-fast painters, or maybe you've been working and haven't gotten to posting, but with such a short time left I'm getting nervous.

Remember, we also have to do write-ups for the characters.

[DeeLock]

Ya, I'll try and finish by tomorrow night.

I thought that papervampire made it clear that he wasn't going to be able to contribute, I don't see any problems with kicking him out.

Edit: Do we need WIP images for Team Chow?

[Liffey]

Not sure... the topic with the rules seems to have disappeared. :|

Evil Big Guy for now, will go back and touch up if I have time. Or anyone else can feel free to do so as well.

[Liffey]

Good Big Guy:

[DefiledVisions]

Good druid.. face is so random heh, evil coming up.


A lonesome soul, Merehim wanders the defiled forests of Kandor in search for peace. Using his gift to bring new life into what once was decayed and rotten, a memorial more than a calling, he mourns the loss of one most dear to him. Waiting.. for the call that never will come.

[Liffey]

Thanks, DF! btw, are you using painter?

[DefiledVisions]

And here's the bad Druid... I'm sorry Liffey, I was counting on having more time. My sister and mom both have birthdays after each other, so I was really busy this week. Started and finished this piece today, not as detailed as the other one... strange enough it looks like Matt Dixons work :P dont ask me why.. anyhow, hope the similarity is acceptable and that evil is obvious.
and for your question, nope, no painter - photoshop with some custom brushes.



Contaminated by the essense of Kandor, Merehim turned to the blood of innocence. For too long had he wandered among death and decay, seeing nothing but hatred. His once lifegiving gift was captured and twisted into a tool of darkness. He walks no longer as a giver of life, and no longer does he have a cause. He justs wants to see the world bleed as his heart could not.

[DefiledVisions]

oh wait.. deadline's tommorow :P:P I can still work them more! goodnight.

[DeeLock]

Finished(?) Evil Thief

[Liffey]

Looks good, guys!

I wasn't able to work on the orc today... due to someone stealing my tablet while I was away from the computer lab. o_O The funny thing is that my seat is right in front of a camera, so whoever took it is pretty stupid, but they can't look up the footage until tomorrow. All we need now though is DeeLock's good thief and some descriptions, so we should be in good shape. I'll let daestwen and papervampire know that we're gonna have to cut that extra member.

[DeeLock]

Liffey: Don't forget that your images have to be 2:3 ratio. So that's 2 wide by 3 tall. They have to be vertical.

Daestwen said that they were being a lot more strict with format.

[Liffey]

Liffey: Don't forget that your images have to be 2:3 ratio. So that's 2 wide by 3 tall. They have to be vertical.

Daestwen said that they were being a lot more strict with format.

Didn't know that. Crap. Thanks for the heads up.

[DeeLock]

Good Theif:

[Liffey]

Reformatted big guy. Now all we need are descriptions.

[Liffey]

Wrote my descriptions. This can be adjusted depending on what you guys do. I'll be getting up early tomorrow, so if you guys don't have yours done I'll just fill it in for you.

Name: Narcelus
Race: Narcelii
Class: Brawler
Gender: Male

Good:

The last known member of the lost Narcelii race, Narcelus has been fending for himself in the forest for practically his entire life. However, early on he befriended a druid also living in the forest. Together they have survived in the forest while avoiding hunting teams from the nearby human village.

Evil:

The last known member of the lost Narcelii race, Narcelus has been fending for himself in the forest for practically his entire life. Due to being constantly hunted by a nearby human city, Narcelus has developed tremendous hostility towards humans, and none who have attempted to track him down have survived.

[DeeLock]

Name: Ophelie
Race: Human
Class: Theif
Gender: Female

Good:

Ophelie is a thief, but not in the usual sense of the word. She is more of a reclaimer someone who is able to relocate lost or stolen items. Items of much greater worth than any peasant could lay claim to. Her clients usually include lords and ladies who's treasure larders had been ransacked by bandits or jails who have misplaced some convicts. She was raised in a traveling circus and spent most of her formative years as a carefree girl. She is a free spirit and claims loyalty to no one.

Evil:

Ophelie works for the township as a gatherer of information and a woman who knows how to get things. Orphaned and homeless as a young girl, she learned the art of theft and the ability to avoid being seen to survive. Her formative years were spent alone and in darkness. She owes her allegiance to the lord of the land for giving her a home and she carries out his every wish, even dealing death at his word. She has become a bit of an urban legend, her masquerade mask has become a symbol of tyranny and fear.

[Liffey]

btw, DF, if you finish your description tonight you can feel free to post this all in the final burning thread. Or I can do it tomorrow morning, doesn't matter, I think it should still be eligible.

edit: nevermind, i didn't realize you have already done those.

[Liffey]

Alright, well I posted our work in the submission thread (http://conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2415403&postcount=30).

Good work everyone! I had fun, and I think we have a pretty appealing set of characters. I'm now off to start on the Battle of the Sexes contest... you three should do the same! :)