Getting Freelance, Pricing, Jobs, and Promotion Closed

[Jason Manley]

TUITION IS BELOW!!!!!!! See you all soon!!!



Getting jobs, finding, pricing, and winning freelance, creative promotion, and supporting yourself as an artist are key to living as a artist in the world today. We will spend time covering every aspect, tool, and theory that the most successful artists in the world use to make their dreams real. You don't have to starve. You can do anything you wish with your art career if you just know the ways that it is done. This information did not come in art school.

Why me...In 2002 I used a meager 6050.00 dollars to build conceptart.org and found Massive Black Inc. with Coro Kaufman and Andrew Jones. Since then, I have amassed the largest client list in my field and the MB team has completed an industry leading 250 major projects for everything from God of War 3, Starcraft 2, Killzone 2, Sonic, Tony Hawk, Dragon Age, Army of Two, Fallout 3, Guitar Hero,...Toys like Laser Tag, major feature films, television commercials, books, and more. I built the very first entertainment art education workshops (there are now at least seven followers), helped build and fund our school, created our downloads program and our live streaming classes, designed conceptart.org's community, and have spoken on the topics of creative business at major industry events like GDC, GCDC, DICE, AnimFX, universities, and more.


Here are some of my clients (including 19 of the top 20 games publishers):

o 2K Games
o 2k Marin
o 3rd Degree Games
o Acony
o Andromeda Publishing
o Acquire
o Activision
o ArenaNet
o Arkane
o Atari
o Ayzenberg Group
o Backbone Ent.
o Bethesda
o Big Fish
o Big Huge Games
o Bioware
o Bizarre Creations
o Black Hole
o Black Rock Studios
o Blizzard
o BreakAway
o Buck TV
o Bungie
o Capcom
o Catalyst
o CCP
o CD Projekt
o Cheyenne Mountain
o Factor 5
o Co-Mar
o Codemasters
o The Collective
o ConceptArt.Org
o Critterpix
o Cryptic
o Darkworks
o Deadline Games
o Deep Silver
o Disney
o Disney Interactive
o Disney HSM
o Dot Matrix
o Double Helix
o EA Blackbox
o EA: DICE
o EA
o EA Redwood
o EA Vancouver
o Eclipse
o Eidos
o Edge of Reality
o Ensemble
o Epic
o Escalation Studios
o Flagship
o Fox Sports
o GameLoft
o GearBox
o Guerrilla
o Hasbro
o High Impact
o HCA Associates
o id software
o Ignite Studios
o Impulse
o Incognito
o InXile
o Intel
o IO
o Irrational
o Junction Point
o Kitchen
o Koch Media
o Kongregate
o Lightbox
o Liquid Entertainment
o LucasArts
o Maxis
o Microsoft
o Midway
o Monolith
o Move
o MTV
o NCSoft
o Nerjyzed
o NetDevil
o Neversoft
o Nike
o Nintendo
o Novalogic
o Obsidian Entertainment
o OddWorld
o Pandemic
o Planet Moon
o Production Road
o Project 51
o Pseudo Interactive
o Pyro
o Radical
o Rainbow
o Recoil
o RED 5
o Red Octane
o Red Tribe
o Ritual
o Sega of Japan
o Sega of America
o Sega R&D
o Sega: Secret Level
o Schell Games
o Seismics
o Sibilant
o Slipgate Ironworks
o SnowBlind
o SOA
o Sony: SCEA
o Sony: SCEE
o Sony: Online
o Sony: R&D
o Space Time
o Spark Unlimited
o Stormfront
o SuckerPunch
o Timegate
o Tippett
o Toys for Bob
o Trainit
o Triumph
o Ubisoft Montreal
o UDA
o Upper Deck
o Vicious Cycle
o Vivendi
o Volatile
o Volition
o Vurdalak
o Zenimax


I am going to share information which you can, and will, directly apply to making your own career successful, regardless of your circumstances or creative path. This is not just for concept artists. This is for all artists and is designed for any art career you have in mind. I grew up dirt poor and was orphaned by seventeen. If I can make it, any of you can. I will be helping those participate understand how they can make their art career and freelance life exactly as they hope for. I will go over everything from promotion to gathering work to pricing, setting salaries, negotiation, and contracts. This is an all inclusive course.

Why support this: First because you need to know and understand all that you can when it comes to knowing what you can do to improve your ability to make it as a creative person. Second, because all CA proceeds are going to fund the brand new technology which we ordered last week. We are building the definitive hub for creatives to make it in the world, including improved galleries, professional promotional tools, a majorly upgraded job boards, the online school tech, and a host of other features which will give you and all the artists of CA a better base in which to access our traffic that reaches nearly ever major company, art director, professional artists, and even ways to help you earn a living. We also have some great tools that will improve your shots at opportunity, and success. I need to raise money to see this happen, and so here I am. My time is yours.

Join me this coming weekend. We have great stuff to cover.

When: Saturday August 1 2009
Where: Right here on ConceptArt.Org in the Live Education forums.
Time: 1PM-5PM Central Daylight Time (Austin Texas)
Tuition: 95 bucks.
How: http://www.conceptartstore.com/ininart.html

Watch this thread for more info!!

And more info will come too!



Jason Manley

[Aenhimal]

great!! there's going to be a masterclass every weekend? I'm going to be broke in a blink in that case haha

[PieterV]

I tend to worry allot about this subject, and it's an important one. So there's a good chance I'll join in on this one.

Is there a streaming test we can try out to check how well our connection holds up? Also, if you get disconnected during the lecture (which most likely will happen with my shitty isp), is there a possible problem with rejoining?

Will this be a video lecture, or just audio?

[Kvick]

I thought I pretty much had most color concepts down knowledge-wise before saturday, but you showed me how little I did :P. I'll definitely try to make it to this one too.

[Hive_minD]

such a pity that I missed the colour class. Gotta try and join this one, though I would pay extra if it would come as a download!

[B.Rockwell]

I'm there for sure.

[DefiledVisions]

I am also wondering if these streamed classes will be available for purchase in the future. I'm on holiday at the moment and don't have the possibilty to join in on these classes, and I think many others are in the same situation like me.

This is one movie I would not like to miss, since it adresses such important information.. and since I want to start freelancing soon I need this bigtime :P

[Greg Lambrakis]

Hey Jason, remember how I said if you ever did a class/download on this topic
I'd be the first in line? Well, I'll definitely be there on Saturday. Thanks for sharing
this stuff; really looking forward to it.
Cheers and all the best.

[Ninjac]

This class would be perfect for me! To bad I'll be out of the country when it is live. Hopefully it will be a dl in the future cause I want this info for sure.

[Sidharth Chaturvedi]

The color class was all I could handle financially for now, but this does sound awesome. I've still got a lot of work to do on my foundations before i can go job hunting though. Hopefully they'll be solid by the time you do this course again, it sounds awesome :).

[LostFayth]

Jason, is this gonna be repeated in a few months as well? I really want to participate, but two times 95 usd in a month would be just too much for me to spend.

[Steffler]

Guys I know your testing out the tech and everything, but I think everyone wants to have some sort of lasting copy for future reference. While all this is in beta anyway.

For example, I am still learning foundation drawing. When I progress into painting I will have to recall everything or refer to notes from this weekends lectures.

I know you guys are trying to protect yourselves from piracy but perhaps you could have a subscription based membership. A free membership gets you normal access like we have now. A monthly subscription would grant you access to non interactive videos lets say $25 per month. And for your live events you have to buy a ticket, say $50 for subscribers, regular price $95. Then afterwords its in the library for future reference.

Im not saying your product is not priced right but you could generate huge amounts of residual cash flow from the people your lectures inspire.

In your color lecture you mentioned a few times, having different levels of participation. Hypothetically speaking I may only want to hear the lecture, so I buy a one time pass. After watching, my interest goes through the roof because I can see this material is exactly what Im looking for, so I subscribe for a month. Now I want to break into entertainment art, so I become a premium member so I can get access to exercise files. Your lectures can attract new subscriptions by offering all that material we requested after the lecture.

Video blogs, video tours, live workshop streaming. You could commission the community masters to come to your studio and record a 30 min spot on various topics. That would benefit the artists portfolio as well as add one more recording for your library.

At the moment I have an annual budget of $1200 for subscriptions, workshops, conventions and digital downloads. Besides Kelbytraining and Lynda.com I havent found anything like those that are specifically geared to teach fine art or digital art. Except for Xia at Idrawgirls.com. Regardless of where it comes from I will spend at least that much this year. I would spend it all in one place; if such a place existed.

I love those subscription sites because I can learn the software, but im starving to find that same type of media in an artistic format. Sure, I can buy expensive digital downloads, but honestly I have been disappointed by all of them except those I got at Idrawgrils. Those are cheap downloads comparatively. They come with loads of files and the feature tutorials are 4 hours long. Everything else is free. Not to mention hes a great teacher, so im eager to be supportive.

Just my 2 cents. Im looking forward to more webcasts but at a $100 a pop my budget is gunna get creamed. I may pass on some subjects, but I would buy them all if there was a way to make it affordable.


Think of it this way. If you sold 100 tickets for the next show you would gross $9,500. Then its gone after 30 days and those 100 students might retain most of it afterwords. Now if you find a way to archive the material, without it getting bootlegged, you can then restream that same lecture. Which also increases the value of the content in the consumers eyes on the front end. So you would not only be able reach more artists but there is a record of the event for newcomers.

In the past I watched the highlights on youtube or used a free trial to sample tutorials. When I was first learning about subscription based training I canceled all of my online game accounts to make the switch. When I realized that I could build assets from the exercise files I upgrade to premium memberships. I can imagine Massive Black has a pretty friggen huge assets library.

So if those same 100 tickets also sold 50 subscriptions you would gross an additional 15,000 after just one year. All this would require fancy graphics and editing to really market it outside CA.org. Not to mention you need to have an archive to subscribe too. But I bet you could get the community to contribute to development for free tickets or something :) I would do it for free just to have it on my resume.

I guess thats more than my 2 cents huh?

[Trashy]

Jason after last class I'm already signing up. I don't really care at all if I don't have a dime left to spend afterward. I learned a lot last class, more then in any class I ever took. And hey anything to help you get the new tech going is a worthy cause. This is a subject I need to deeply understand more about also. I'll be there man.

[Rist]

Is it really the best you can do. One time only chance to see these over the course of 2 days? Not even that? Just been on Holiday and came back today, meaning I missed out on the colour theory. I am really disappointed because I would have thrown money at you to see that. Subscriptions for monthly, quarterly, and annual is essential for streaming videos.

I'm not too against the decision, and might be ignorant to all what's happening, but its making it really hard for me to buy into these videos now when I only have a very short duration to see them. I like to see my videos many times because I hate taking notes. This scheme is counter-productive to the way I learn. Good luck with it all the same.

[Aenhimal]

Those of us who have sing up for colour theory, can see the class for 30 days, so yes we can see it more than once, just not on "live"

[Rist]

Ah okay, that's alright then. Is there no way for those who missed the live session to still pay for the 30 day duration?

[Sidharth Chaturvedi]

Guys I know your testing out the tech and everything, but I think everyone wants to have some sort of lasting copy for future reference. While all this is in beta anyway.

For example, I am still learning foundation drawing. When I progress into painting I will have to recall everything or refer to notes from this weekends lectures.

I know you guys are trying to protect yourselves from piracy but perhaps you could have a subscription based membership. A free membership gets you normal access like we have now. A monthly subscription would grant you access to non interactive videos lets say $25 per month. And for your live events you have to buy a ticket, say $50 for subscribers, regular price $95. Then afterwords its in the library for future reference.

Im not saying your product is not priced right but you could generate huge amounts of residual cash flow from the people your lectures inspire.

In your color lecture you mentioned a few times, having different levels of participation. Hypothetically speaking I may only want to hear the lecture, so I buy a one time pass. After watching, my interest goes through the roof because I can see this material is exactly what Im looking for, so I subscribe for a month. Now I want to break into entertainment art, so I become a premium member so I can get access to exercise files. Your lectures can attract new subscriptions by offering all that material we requested after the lecture.

Video blogs, video tours, live workshop streaming. You could commission the community masters to come to your studio and record a 30 min spot on various topics. That would benefit the artists portfolio as well as add one more recording for your library.

At the moment I have an annual budget of $1200 for subscriptions, workshops, conventions and digital downloads. Besides Kelbytraining and Lynda.com I havent found anything like those that are specifically geared to teach fine art or digital art. Except for Xia at Idrawgirls.com. Regardless of where it comes from I will spend at least that much this year. I would spend it all in one place; if such a place existed.

I love those subscription sites because I can learn the software, but im starving to find that same type of media in an artistic format. Sure, I can buy expensive digital downloads, but honestly I have been disappointed by all of them except those I got at Idrawgrils. Those are cheap downloads comparatively. They come with loads of files and the feature tutorials are 4 hours long. Everything else is free. Not to mention hes a great teacher, so im eager to be supportive.

Just my 2 cents. Im looking forward to more webcasts but at a $100 a pop my budget is gunna get creamed. I may pass on some subjects, but I would buy them all if there was a way to make it affordable.


Think of it this way. If you sold 100 tickets for the next show you would gross $9,500. Then its gone after 30 days and those 100 students might retain most of it afterwords. Now if you find a way to archive the material, without it getting bootlegged, you can then restream that same lecture. Which also increases the value of the content in the consumers eyes on the front end. So you would not only be able reach more artists but there is a record of the event for newcomers.

In the past I watched the highlights on youtube or used a free trial to sample tutorials. When I was first learning about subscription based training I canceled all of my online game accounts to make the switch. When I realized that I could build assets from the exercise files I upgrade to premium memberships. I can imagine Massive Black has a pretty friggen huge assets library.

So if those same 100 tickets also sold 50 subscriptions you would gross an additional 15,000 after just one year. All this would require fancy graphics and editing to really market it outside CA.org. Not to mention you need to have an archive to subscribe too. But I bet you could get the community to contribute to development for free tickets or something :) I would do it for free just to have it on my resume.

I guess thats more than my 2 cents huh?

Steffler, I kinda get what you're saying, but on affordability you really need to keep something in mind... A color theory class at my school (which is cheaper than most art schools) is over $2000 and doesn't cover much of what this lecture did. Factoring in that Jason burned up an entire weekend without making a dime off it, $95 is chump change. Just take good notes. If you missed something that you cant catch again over the next 29 days, others have been posting their notes in the forum as well.

[john_d]

The Color Theory class was out of control. It was about 7 hours long and didn't drag for a minute. I consider myself fairly well read on the topic, but Jason was teaching all sorts of ways to use color and value that I hadn't come across before. The streaming technology is actually really cool and worked great.

I went back and forth Sunday morning trying to decide if I really wanted to spend my day inside looking at my computer screen, but in the end I couldn't pass up the opportunity. If you're sitting on the fence about this next one, I encourage you to take the leap. While I obviously haven't taken the course yet, if it's half as informative as the color one, you will not be sorry.

But what I really wanted to say was everyone who is on holiday or working or whatever, you might consider signing up for the class anyway since there will be a streaming version of it online for 30 days afterwards (I'm assuming they're doing that for this one, too). You can't take advantage of the asking questions element, but you can watch it when you get back!

[Rist]

Can anyone from the UK make some comments on connection quality and the time of day the live feed was shown for the colour theory video? Thanks,

[hala]

Too bad I can't use my "education loan" towards these instead of my overpriced college classes. College doesn't really allow me the opportunity to budget for a monthly subscription.

Will try to attend this one though--this is definitely something that is hardly taught in school. I've only seen a couple seminars for this aspect of the art world at my uni. Only grazing the top of some of the deeper subjects of this topic.

Looking forward to it! :)

[arghmisfit]

This sounds really great!! I would be totally into this if i wasn't flying home that day.

keep up the great education!

[Hawgca11er]

Wow another one! The color theory lecture was amazing and well worth the money. I will be in every class from now on as long as I can afford it. Thanks Jason!

[Nrx]

Can anyone from the UK make some comments on connection quality and the time of day the live feed was shown for the colour theory video? Thanks,

amazing, 7 - 2am, not that bad all in all, i was actually in bed by the end and forgot to fire a few questions, but definately worth the money,


but i will now use caps because im slightly inebriated

JASON ITS TOO SOON MAN, LET MY BANK RECOVER :'(

[Steffler]

Steffler, I kinda get what you're saying, but on affordability you really need to keep something in mind... A color theory class at my school (which is cheaper than most art schools) is over $2000 and doesn't cover much of what this lecture did. Factoring in that Jason burned up an entire weekend without making a dime off it, $95 is chump change. Just take good notes. If you missed something that you cant catch again over the next 29 days, others have been posting their notes in the forum as well.

I completely agree. But the main competitor here isn't the universities. Its other online educators. Sure this is a great value as it is, when you compare it to just the tuition at traditional schools. But its expensive when you compare it to other types of similar online media. Granted there is a lot of value from the Massive Black portfolio, but were talking about fundamentals of art here. To get accreditation for the school he will have to teach those in addition to what other concentrations they start with.

Yeah Jason did a long weekend this time. But in the future as they produce more broadcasts its going to boil down to about a 4 hour lecture. Thats $25 dollars an hour roughly. Now at my university I spent about $1200 for an art course. I went 3 times a week, 3 hours each day, for 16 weeks give or take. About 144 hours of instruction. That averages down to $8.33 per hour of instruction. We spent about 2 weeks on color in my foundation design course and my instructor covered a lot of the same fundamentals Jason reviewed.


online accredited and non accredited training is exploding right now and it seems that Jason wants his new company to be able to teach students who would pay with financial aid and student loans. I dont see getting accredited for any other reason. Which I think is just awesome. I would change schools in a heartbeat. But by the time his school comes online I will have graduated and will be busy repaying student loans.

But what about all those people who cant get the funding to go to school. Even Jason says you dont have to have the degree you just have to learn the art. Or maybe art is just a passion and not a career. If this material was archived and accessible to review it could reach an even bigger market. I see many teenagers here on CA who are ready for advanced lecture.

Im just saying there is a real niche with online subscriptions. It could fund the start up of the school itself. Not to mention having the web/video tech ready for online programs. Its only a matter of time before someone has an online subscription plan for commercial art training, if it isnt already here.
I cant afford to watch very many $100 lectures that im not ready for. But even beginners are interested in the product. If you can reach them, viola...
There is your digital revolution

[Liffey]

Oh man... Jason, you're gonna ruin me. Maybe in the future we could have two weeks between classes? Not sure if I'm gonna do this one or not... I really really want to, since I don't think I'll find this info anywhere else, at least not easily. Just not sure if I can afford it so soon after the last class. Do you know if you'll be repeating it anytime in the future?

[The Lone Gunman]

I wouldn't mind dropping money on this at all! But is there anyway you could do one during the evening too?! Or at least a video download! My days are already spoken for, unfortunately. :/ I wouldn't mind gaining some crazy knowledge and supporting the community at the same time. :)

[growly beast]

I loved the Color Theory class! And I will probably attend this class. But there is some really important stuff you guys should consider if you want to keep this as a good but affordable source of income.

As the one above me said, I'd love to see a subscription available. Eventually, nobody's going to be able to afford paying 95 dollars every time there is a class. I realize you are just starting this out and testing how it works, but I feel this would be something really important to implement as soon as you possibly can, or at least hold off on classes until something is in place.

My reasoning is, at the price of 95 dollars with classes every weekend or even every month, it's an extremely hefty fee. A whole month (four weekends) is already $340! That's almost the price of rent! Not only that, but the information isn't even available for download, or even permanently - and if you miss a class period, you're completely screwed.

The worst thing about it is that it makes it extremely hard to pick and choose what classes one would want to take, because we have no idea of what is coming up next, if it will be the "omg can't miss class", or not. A schedule would make this even easier.

Hopefully my suggestions are useful. I just started coming to CA.org, and at the right time - these classes and the videos I've bought from MB are simply amazing. But if you're not going to offer downloads, there really needs to be a better system...

[Jason Manley]

First, thanks to those of you who attended the other course. Really. I had soooo much fun. It was the best weekend I have had in ages really. I feel like the questions taught me some things too..so thanks.

Second...if you can find what I have to say anywhere else, I will be personally surprised. I don't know another artist in the field who has built a client list like this:

I also do not know anyone in art who has the same up to date knowledge of multiple industries pricing, current going work values, negotiation, promotion, legal, and other freelance and career matters. You can take the top three MB competitors and combine them and I have still amassed more clients than they have and they have entire teams of biz and sales guys...MB, up until recently, only had me. I am sharing theories and strategies that you can implement in your own freelance work and career to get the job done.

There is no way some teacher at one of the private art schools knows all this stuff. No way at all. If they did, they would be doing what I do. So anyone that says they can find it cheaper elsewhere...go for it. It will not happen. If you have an interest in finding success, I am happy to share. The small fee is supporting the growth of this site and community, which has had a huge impact on so many peoples lives. Spending money on Lynda.com is not getting you a ton of new tech to use, for free, to be able to be more successful, nor keeping this site open and free for your learning and work use. CA is doing that. I don't know anyone else who is.

We are considering some subscription formats, but this live course program is here to stay. I cant keep it up forever or the bandwidth would kill us. We will see if we can find some solutions as time goes on, but for now this is how it is going to work. We are trying to do a great job and I think the reviews speak for themselves.

I can go down and take a one day class at a number of institutions, in the flesh, and get no ability to watch the video from it at all...and pay even more money. Just one look in your local city pages newspaper will show you that. This way of working keeps our costs balanced with the funding CA needs to grow. Believe me, we are doing all we can to offer the best deal possible. In all honesty, I think we could charge more for this stuff...others do. We are not. We are being fair as we possibly can..as we always do.

I will consider running a night course for the same topic. If there is enough support for it I will run it. I have to raise a tremendous amount of funds for CA's new technologies and am putting my full efforts and time into doing so. This all comes from the right place of integrity. If the leaders in CA put the time in, which they are going to, then it will happen and this place will have every necessary tool and program it deserves.

[Liffey]

Well said Jason, my only concern is that having two classes so close to eachother will keep some potential customers from being able to participate. Spacing them out even just a week more might make it a bit easier to save up.

That said, if you really want to attend these classes, you will find a way. Donate plasma. Pack a lunch instead of eating fast food. Don't buy that movie/game you were eyeing (you should be spending your free time drawing anyways). Don't go to the bar Friday night. Find a one day job on craig's list. Sell some old collectibles on ebay. It just comes down to how badly you really want to learn and mature as an artist.

Furthermore, if you are a starving artist, this is probably just the class you need. $95 for info on how to succeed as a freelancer/making it into the industry? Sounds like an incredible investment to me. If you attended the Color Theory class, read any of the reviews on it, or hell, bought any MB vid, you know that it's going to be well more than worth it.

[B.Rockwell]

I can already feel the anticipatory blisters from some hardcore note taking.

[Uglyographer]

Night courses!!! Yes, please! Very, very interested.

I'm currently waiting tables to supplement my income and Saturdays are tough to give up, monetarily speaking.

Weekday nights would be stellar.

And just to throw my two cents in, $95 per course is cheap. I would take a class (maybe more) every weekend/week at that price.

[Rist]

I'm sold. I assume you get breaks during the session as, I think, Jason is human, the same as everyone else. Needs brain, nutritional, and toilet breaks.

How are the questions asked, within a forum format or via voice/text chat?

All I have to say is how the heaven have you gained such a client list! I guess that will be explained and much more this coming weekend! :D

[Aenhimal]

Jason is not human, he just needs some apples to fight bears (yes, there are breaks)

There is a chat during the classes so people post their questions and Jason takes some time to answer them between explanations, I think that worked pretty well btw

Can't wait to Saturday!!

[Theking78]

Any chance this live course will work better than the colour theory one for Italian people?
I'm interested but if nothing has changed in the technical side I'm afraid to spend $95 for not being able to interact or even understand the lecture.
Jason have you done some tests with italian people since last live lecture?

[Jason Manley]

I know not everyone can make it to all of them. I am thankful for the support though. I think, as time goes on we will run about four classes each week to get going. First, as usual, I have to prove it all works and since I need to raise the money for the new tech that is ordered, I have to put the work in. I have a lot to share though.

[Liffey]

Four classes a week??? Wow. Once you get that planned out, could you let us know several classes in advance what classes will be running so that people can figure out which of the classes they want to budget for?

I think I'm going to take the hit and attend this class. Just sounds way too important to my future to pass up. I'll have to pass on the next couple though. Ugh, sometimes I really wish I was not wasting my time and money at school. I learn so much more through CA and MB, and for so much less money.

[Brushcommander]

Oh Jason, you're turning me into a poor student >:

[- Armada -]

WOW another class by Jason!!

Damn I wont be around this weekend but still going to pay for it as (words cant describe it) it's much better than another forum that does classes in a thread, were the teacher appears once a week for 8 weeks... and it costs 4x more!! and isnt live and interactive and watchable for 30 days. People dont understand the value of information this guy is giving away that cost him a lot of sweat, blood and tears to get were he is now. Jason will save me all that for attending these classes.

So I thank you once again for sharing the knowledge and not keeping it to yourself and becoming a selfish millionaire :yayca:


Liffey im gonna rely on you again to take notes like the Colour Theory, much appreciated for that as the 1st lecture wasnt recorded properly.

Jason it would be nice for people who cant watch it live, to be able to post ready made questions in the private thread before the session so you can review them and answer them live. Just a thought.

[Theking78]

WOW another class by Jason!!
Damn I wont be around this weekend but still going to pay for it as (words cant describe it) it's much better than another forum that does classes in a thread, were the teacher appears once a week for 8 weeks... and it costs 4x more!! and isnt live and interactive and watchable for 30 days.

Sorry but while I agree that the live interaction is a very good chance for us to speak with the teachers I must be honest and say taht an 8 week course can let you learn even more because of the continuous interaction with the teacher for this very long time (8 weeks instead of 6 hours). I think that receive assignements and look how the teacher correct the errors or let your paint become better with only a few touches is an unvaluable learning tool. Of course if the 8 week teacher sucks and the live teacher it's great it's another thing but in my personal experience I can assure you that my 8 weeks course with Don Seegmiller helped my artistic growth a lot, in fact much more than everything else I have tried so far.

I agree with the rest of your post and I thanks Jason and MB for what they're doing for us all and I'll continue to support then as much as I can.

[Liffey]

WOW another class by Jason!!
Liffey im gonna rely on you again to take notes like the Colour Theory, much appreciated for that as the 1st lecture wasnt recorded properly.


Heh, alright, but don't let that keep you from taking your own notes too! I've found it helps to cement things in my mind by writing them down.

[Kilh]

I'll try to be in, but I'm not sure if my connection will handle it. During the Composition test-stream my low bandwidth couldnt keep up with the stream in the end.

A downloadable version would be perfect, but I understand the piracy concerns.

[link_choi]

Some of yous mentioned other educators Jason is competing against. I just need to whisper in your ear in extremely loud volume: THERE IS NO COMPETITION!!!

Take colour theory: if you look hard you can find some sources (some books, a couple of DVDs, some teachers I'm sure) that will give you a solid theory base.

Now find me someone who is expert in the theory and can relate all that knowledge to entertainment design.

Now find me someone who is expert in the theory, can relate all that knowledge to entertainment design, and can make that information easy to understand.

Now find me someone who is all of the above, and is therefore slammed with paying art jobs constantly, who still gives huge amount of time to share that knowledge for no personal $$ gain?

You see where I'm going?

The business stuff: on last day of Marama workshop, Jason gave a short talk on this topic. I listened, took notes and said to myself, 'Why was I not told this stuff before? It's so important!' About a month later, I changed jobs and what do you know, all the stuff that Jason talked about showed up in that contract: the NDA, 2-year non-compete, the IP ownership clause, the vague-as-mud specs... all the evil sh-t that Jason talked about was right there. And instead of being bullied into signing whatever was put in front of me, I understood everything and was able to negotiate with confidence and got a fair deal.

So yeah every time I hear Manley talk I learn a bunch that immediately move me closer to where I want to go in art. I can go on about his free composition talk, but I won't because 1) I sound like such an infomercial that I'm beginning to creep myself out, and 2) it's time for me to shuddafugup and actually post some work.

Before I go I'll just show you how you too can make a tasty guacamole with the Manleyriser in just seconds! K?

[XanaChama]

This is a course I feel I NEED to take (the color I had to pass on because of lack of funds also :( ). But this is too short of notice. At least give us a couple of weeks in between these courses so we can get paid and plan finances accordingly. I feel bad for complaining because I know the site needs money to be upgraded and all, but without a doubt if I had the money I would take this course. I just feel sad, I may actually miss out on this one... hardship aside though, thank you for continuing to offer us opportunities to improve ourselves, Jason. I'll try my best not to take it for granted, even if I'm being a whiny ninny right now. Rawr.

[Theking78]

Some of yous mentioned other educators Jason is competing against. I just need to whisper in your ear in extremely loud volume: THERE IS NO COMPETITION!!!


It wasn't my intention to put in competition Jason with Don (I prefer to use the names of people I speak about instead of remaining general), first because I didn't have been teached by both of them on the same subject, second because I think they're both great artists and I have very much to learn from both of them for sure and third because anyone of us has a different learning method so a good teacher for a person can be not as good for another one and I don't have the knowledge to elige the best teacher of the Universe.

I was just saying that an 8 week course with a good teacher is a very effective way to become a better artist. I tried this on my skin and it worked and I supposed you did not (or your teacher was bad) from what you're saying...
I firmly believe this and it's not a chance that I asked Jason if in the future also him will be available to do a course extended in time, with assignments and painting review. I know Jason would be great in doing this and since his reply I also know that maybe the next year this will be possible :)

[- Armada -]

Theking78 - Apologies but i wasnt talking about Don as I cant comment on that since ive never paid for one of his lesson and I paid for a different course. I dont mention names of teachers or forums as then a big debate flame war starts and its not my place to start things like this. Again the teacher i paid for was not Don. They were hardly on the net. And to post max 3 pages of notes a week is beyond a joke for an 8 week course.
If your gonna use names its best kept in private messages and be asked who taught you etc.

You have your opinion and I have my own opinion. No bad feelings taken. :P

Liffey - As I said earlier I wont be able to make it this weekend, yet I will still pay for it and take notes when watching it on demand. Just some info might not get picked up via my ears so its good to compare notes with others. :teeth:

Silikind - I agree with stuff you have said. Even learning that 1% can make a difference for later on.

[hala]

a calendar of upcoming paid events like classes and downloads would be great,
but you guys are flying by the seat of your pants working your asses off to get this stuff up and running--just keep it up man, the community definitely appreciates it!! :)

This is not something that you can practice like color theory and composition
this is something that you have to learn from someone who's been there, done that, and gives you a sense of direction so you don't fall into a death trap with money and a failed career from a lack of business sense rather than from a lack of skill or talent.

I look forward to it and gonna stomp on anything that comes up this weekend so that I can attend this lesson possibly. :)

[Theking78]

You have your opinion and I have my own opinion. No bad feelings taken. :P


No bad feeling at all, we're mate in the same community! :) Rock on!

[Saint-Onge]

I don't think you know how thankful people are (or atleast i am) that you're covering this kind of stuff and not charging an arm and a leg for it. I think i've learned more from concept art and these classes, than i have in an entire semester of art school.
So Thanks Jason!

[TeaMonster]

Jason thanks in advance for this one, CA is the best place on the net-Full of goodness and greatness.
I'm eternally grateful you had this brainchild for us all to benefit from- If there is a god he will lend my broke butt 95 to be in on this!

[lady nerevar]

argh, damn my brokeness! any chance this class will repeat in the coming months?

btw, do you live stream every class or just record it once and replay?

[Kristal Lee]

I really really want to attend this, but I am really short on cash for a month or two, so I was wondering...

Will you be repeating any of your live classes, or perhaps recording them and selling the recordings later? I would love to attend more when my cash is a bit less nonexistent. :P

[Amber Alexander]

I really really want to attend this, but I am really short on cash for a month or two, so I was wondering...

Will you be repeating any of your live classes, or perhaps recording them and selling the recordings later? I would love to attend more when my cash is a bit less nonexistent. :P

I second that, I really really want to attend this class but this is the worst time for me financially right now. I'd really like to be able to watch it or download it later on. Unless you can set up some type of payment plan so its paid over a few months instead of one big chunk.

[Cryptcrawler]

I'd really love to attend all of these incredible classes myself, especially since its coming from the powerhouses who founded Massive Black. The company itself is such an incredible success story, let alone the personal success stories behind the founders themselves.
I guess the irony here is that im too busy working in this field to be able to attend in addition to not being able to afford it, haha!

Ah well, im still grateful just to be around such amazing opportunities, and the inspirational personalities who make them happen - its a great time to be an artist.

[paberu]

Since the money goes into updating CA I'm interested in signing up for this one.

One thing, where and how to we sign up and pay? I can't seem to find any info on that.

[Liffey]

Quick question, Jason: You've mentioned an upcoming downloadable video on the topic of freelancing. Will this class and that video overlap in terms of content?

[Kiriko]

Argh. I want to take this class, I have the money in hand...and we may not have any power on my block Saturday morning because of construction.

I'm assuming we can pay for the class and view the stream afterwards, like I've heard was done for the Color Theory class?

[Liffey]

Argh. I want to take this class, I have the money in hand...and we may not have any power on my block Saturday morning because of construction.

I'm assuming we can pay for the class and view the stream afterwards, like I've heard was done for the Color Theory class?

Yep. Also, there will probably be a second class time if Saturday morning doesn't work for you.

[knoxie]

Hey Jason,

How long will the lecture go for approx?

Cheers,
Carl.

[Liffey]

Hey Jason,

How long will the lecture go for approx?

Cheers,
Carl.

It says right in the first post, 4 hours.

[XuperNova]

Wow, this is incredible! I'll probably not eat for the next 2 weeks! Where's the sign up sheet??!! *lol*

[Cuervo]

Such a good oppertunity... cheers for this Jason...

:yayca: :bow:

[Theking78]

I'm pretty sure in the first post for this event there was written that the course would have been available for 30 days after the live session as the color theory one.
If it's true I'll give this course a try because I'm really interested in it and I would like to answer some questions to Jason....
Can anyone give me this info, please?

[Greg Lambrakis]

To Jason or to anyone who attended the color class:

I was just wondering what the Q&A format will be like. Is there any sort of limit
to how many I can ask, or are any topics that are off-limits maybe?

I'll probably have a lot of questions, and I suspect most will be answered before
I can even ask, but I'm just curious. TIA

[Samuel Gray]

Jason I would love this and would so do this but I have to move into my new apartment out of town at this time. Would there be any more times to do this for people who have to miss? Preferably week after or something of the sort? I already thank you for your time. Thanks

sam

[- Armada -]

Jason please put the link up to pay, :lounge:

I aint around at wkend from 2moro in UK time and wanna pay so i can watch it later when i get back!

The poll times you did for this wkend is a bit late to know results, if it ends on monday 3rd Aug, for this wkend course, unless it gets delayed a week later.

[Hive_minD]

Ok, I am a little slow, I know. But to get the facts straight...
Can you pay for the class and watch it after it's over? Say if I am at work, come home and then logg inn ? Or is that, like a downloadable version, not possible yet ?

Chris

[Rist]

"Rist wonders if they are holding off till the last minute to keep the numbers down"

[Jason Manley]

Doing all I can to get everything done. The tech upgrades for CA began today. Thanks for your patience. Workin over time. Pulled a 46 hour straight run and finally rested. Back at it.


Now that being said the store will be up today. Scooter will post, or I will, as soon as it is live.



Jason

[flashrabbit]

OK, I'll Bite :) What kind of format is the streaming in?

[Mikko K]

This one sounds awesome. Can never have too much of these industry insights.

Thanks for the hard work you're doing to make these happen Jason!

[Jason Manley]

we use livestream.com right now. it will happen in the forum for the course though. more info in a bit. thanks a lot everyone!

[Rist]

How close to the event will the website event sales remain open? There could be a chance I would have to register on Saturday itself, before the event, and was just wondering.

[thedarkcloak]

WOW.

That is REALLY good, considering what some of us got to talking before the last class. Juggling freelance part time, a full time day job (creative or otherwise), other projects, etc. 'Figuring it out', where you're headed, what to do.

This sounds like exactly what I'm looking for, as lately I've been trying to figure out how to segue into going freelance full time, figuring out how to make a living out of this, rather than working a full time job during the day (even tho a big part of it is creative, it's not leaning towards what I really want to be doing), and trying to figure out how to 'fit in' what I really want to be doing!

It sounds like many others are in a similar situation, too!

I'm looking forward to this, and I'm pretty sure I'll be attending. It sounds like one not to miss!

[zweiDee]

you crazy what you all doing for us. ;) thx!

[JJacks]

It's great that you're willing to give out such information. A lot of artists I know keep these things to themselves. Sadly, I have 0 income so I can't afford to watch. I guess I will learn the hard way.

I just wanted to express my support. ^_^ I hope you can still offer these classes for a long time to come.

[Hyskoa]

If I had a creditcard, I'd join this!
So those who do have one, join!

[Jason Manley]

Thanks everyone!

The tuition link is now live http://www.conceptartstore.com/ininart.html

The new tech is going to rock. Just got the first layout updates and the programmers are on it! Stoked!!! More goodies to come.


See you Sat!!!


Jason

[The Lone Gunman]

Thanks Jason. If you get an evening class going you can count me in. I'll keep an eye out for it.

[Ryn]

Awesome! Signed up. Will we be able to get a download of this lecture to rewatch at a later date, or will we have to rely on copious note taking? Either way, well worth the every penny. Thanks Jason!

[RaptorArts]

Being a starving student, I cant partake in this. I wish I could though...

[growly beast]

Gonna buy it right now! :)

[Lurial]

Jason, I really, really, REALLY want to go to these live-streaming classes you have set up, but they always fall on days and times that I am working and cannot attend them. There is no way I can get out of work, especially on such short notice. :/

Do you ever plan on recording these classes somehow? Hell, I would shell out four times the price just to be able to gain the knowledge you're providing for us, even if I couldn't ask questions and participate.

[tokaru]

i would love to have this class for a download prespective, cuz in my country the internet conection just sux as hell.

also the light yous turn off sometimes, beacuase agan the electric company in my country sucks really bad, and again if thisin live this shit could happen and i really dont want to waste my money in something so cool and lose it because external factors happen

[Rynox]

Much respect Jason, for everything you're doing (and have done) for the community. I'm pretty excited about this one!

[Moai]

I am now the proud owner of a...password!
Thank you, Jason!

[ClaudioPozas]

First, thanks to those of you who attended the other course. Really. I had soooo much fun. It was the best weekend I have had in ages really. I feel like the questions taught me some things too..so thanks.

Second...if you can find what I have to say anywhere else, I will be personally surprised. I don't know another artist in the field who has built a client list like this:

I also do not know anyone in art who has the same up to date knowledge of multiple industries pricing, current going work values, negotiation, promotion, legal, and other freelance and career matters. You can take the top three MB competitors and combine them and I have still amassed more clients than they have and they have entire teams of biz and sales guys...MB, up until recently, only had me. I am sharing theories and strategies that you can implement in your own freelance work and career to get the job done.

There is no way some teacher at one of the private art schools knows all this stuff. No way at all. If they did, they would be doing what I do. So anyone that says they can find it cheaper elsewhere...go for it. It will not happen. If you have an interest in finding success, I am happy to share. The small fee is supporting the growth of this site and community, which has had a huge impact on so many peoples lives. Spending money on Lynda.com is not getting you a ton of new tech to use, for free, to be able to be more successful, nor keeping this site open and free for your learning and work use. CA is doing that. I don't know anyone else who is.

We are considering some subscription formats, but this live course program is here to stay. I cant keep it up forever or the bandwidth would kill us. We will see if we can find some solutions as time goes on, but for now this is how it is going to work. We are trying to do a great job and I think the reviews speak for themselves.

I can go down and take a one day class at a number of institutions, in the flesh, and get no ability to watch the video from it at all...and pay even more money. Just one look in your local city pages newspaper will show you that. This way of working keeps our costs balanced with the funding CA needs to grow. Believe me, we are doing all we can to offer the best deal possible. In all honesty, I think we could charge more for this stuff...others do. We are not. We are being fair as we possibly can..as we always do.

I will consider running a night course for the same topic. If there is enough support for it I will run it. I have to raise a tremendous amount of funds for CA's new technologies and am putting my full efforts and time into doing so. This all comes from the right place of integrity. If the leaders in CA put the time in, which they are going to, then it will happen and this place will have every necessary tool and program it deserves.
I'd be reee(...)eeeally interested in a night (or at least later) course on this subject (and I regret missing the earlier classes).

[- Armada -]

Ive just paid and now happy, I can go away for the weekend and know i can come back and watch the lecture :)

Thank you Jason for working non stop for other people. If there's karma hopefully you should get it soon ;)

[Pilgrim1099]

Wow..this is fantastic! This is something I would like to use to give myself a boost. The only major concern I have is being able to understand what's being said :/. A transcript would be nice eventually :).

Cheers,

-A

[Kristal Lee]

Do you think there will be any chance of repeating this course at some future date?

[VulgarDragon]

Sounds intriguing...however, I can't follow it live unless I have caption or a transcript to go with it. If there will be, I would seriously consider it because I'm not having much of luck with freelancing so far and I could use the lessons.

[john_d]

Alright the new banner ad says 11am. Is that SF time?

[Pochifux]

There is no way some teacher at one of the private art schools knows all this stuff. No way at all. If they did, they would be doing what I do.

Aaaahhaha! Dude, you are awesome! Sorry, that just made my day - it's sooo true but who else is gonna tell you that?
:mod::rocker:

[Seage]

No no no! I have no money! And this class could help me figure out how to turn that around! Damn, now THATS the pits...:(....

[CharReed]

Jason- You definitely have me in the class! Thank you SO much for this amazing opportunity. I'm struggling through the beginning of my freelance career right now and this couldn't come up at a better time. You are the man for sharing your knowledge and expertise about this field. You are definitely right- you CANNOT find this information anywhere else. Trust me, I've looked!

So thanks again!!!

PS- Can't wait for the upgrade to ConceptArt. I'm really glad my contribution could help. I'll be definitely making good use of the services you mentioned!

[vayne108]

Gosh, I want to but, I don't have the money right now .... *frowns*

[Dizon]

I wish I could pay for this...

[Loomdun]

ew.. My avatar was not meant for such large image icons.. I'll have to make a new one for this place.

Hello! I uh, hm. Yup I really wana pay for this but i'm having a hard time deciding! Not to mention i'm completely new here *cough* and I completely regret missing the color theory class. So much money though in such a short time still

edit: there much better

[Moai]

Apologies if this has already been asked, but is there going to be another streaming video test before the class, like there was for the color theory class?

[DigitalShade]

Signed up, looking forward to the class. Thanks Jason.

[Puck]

Apologies if this has already been asked, but is there going to be another streaming video test before the class, like there was for the color theory class?

+1 I also would like to check if my paltry connection can handle the class. (I've got a 1.5Mbps connection - though realistically 1.2Mbps).

Also, can anybody give me an estimate on how many megabytes would be taken up by the streaming video (we pay by the mb here is aus)?

[bradcapo2]

Cheers and we look forward to your Forum Favourites selections!



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[Liam Harvey]

wooo!! im in for this one! i will have to sleep mighty well prior to it though and live the next day on mostly caffine but i think it should be worth it.
just my luck i have a whole day off prior to the class but the day the class is on.. i have double shifts.
Sundays are easy though...i can manage.

any equipment that is needed for the class? speaker, microphone etc.

[replicaprada]

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[Theking78]

Sorry if I repeat the question but saturday is coming and noone answered my question: will this lecture be available for 30 days after saturday the 1st for whom will pay to partecipate?

[Seraph Fawkes]

Damn i wish i could be there.. Guess someday i'll definetely move to US and find job there )

[Pochifux]

Sounds intriguing...however, I can't follow it live unless I have caption or a transcript to go with it. If there will be, I would seriously consider it because I'm not having much of luck with freelancing so far and I could use the lessons.

My ex was deaf, she never really got the full benefit of an art education because the interpreters weren't completely hip to art jargon. At the deaf school where she got her B.F.A. the life drawing teachers didn't even teach sighting and measuring....
I think what you're doing is great because many art students (myself included) got the S**t end of the stick from professors who were in it more for a cushy job than for training their future competition...
It'd be great if Deaf and Hard of Hearing people could somehow be included too - a stenographer, maybe?
Anyway, thanks Mad, for bringing this up.

[Reedux]

No no no! I have no money! And this class could help me figure out how to turn that around! Damn, now THATS the pits...:(....

Try being stuck in another country, with no computer, internet, money or time.
Working every day a week at a Factory for minimum wage (which you havent even recieved yet, living on 4slices of bread a day) so you can JUST be a starving artist..

I tried painting on the street and was warned by the authorities to stop!
Something about disturbing the peace, haha. Imagine that.

Anyway, I hope I get to see this stuff, perhaps someone can write down everything that is said and post a .pdf? :P

I wont be able to afford this till next week anyway..
Well, at least im not stuck in my parents house being bored all day :D

Cheers!

[Pochifux]

Workin over time. Pulled a 46 hour straight run and finally rested. Back at it.

Jason

Will this be covered in the class also? J/K, but seriously, how do you do that? I used to do that kind of thing in art school, and I'd end up with these muddy, over-worked pieces.

Also, I'd love a night class (I am typing this at 4:45 a.m.) But I'm gonna suck it up and stay up for the 11 a.m. session because I'm not gonna risk missing out if there's not enough interest.
:yayca:


Also, ditto on all the people who asked for more warning - though the serendipitous nature of finding out about this was.... serendipitous (I'm tired).

[Aluvay]

I just need to know that if i buy the class and am not available, say at work, and therefore cannot watch the streaming class live, if i can still watch it later for the 30 days or whatever it is. If so then i'm down.

[Jason Manley]

Yes the 11am is SF time. That's what I get for keeping my puter set to SF time. IT IS ONE PM CENTRAL DAYLIGHT.

[Jason Manley]

yes you do NOT need to be live to participate. You can jump in and stream it. Youll get what you need out of it the first time you watch it. Id doubt you would even need to watch it again. Really. I have it all put together like common sense...good stuff.

[Theking78]

yes you do NOT need to be live to participate. You can jump in and stream it. Youll get what you need out of it the first time you watch it. Id doubt you would even need to watch it again. Really. I have it all put together like common sense...good stuff.

In this case I'm in! :)

[Nicolas Chapuis]

If I wasnt completly broke right now I would totaly do it.
95 for this kind of info and opportunity is really cheap especially for someone like me over here in germany =)

[Pochifux]

I've got a gol-den ti-cket! :pump: Maybe I'll get some shut-eye before it starts? That'd be lovely :) :zzz:

[Sforza]

Thank you so much for this - I'll be graduating soon and really need some advice on these matters. You're great!

[AhChu]

Well, my credit card is taking one for the team on this one, just pending order review. Looking forward to this even if it does mean a 5.30am start :) I missed out on the colour one but the composition test run was great, cheers jason for sticking around and answering heaps of questions..oh and the banning was entertaining...what a dumb ass.

[Lonomatik]

paid in full! looking forward to streaming this sucker. thanks for the opportunity, Jason!

[Klandestineone]

This sucks. I have to work this weekend.

[Pilgrim1099]

My ex was deaf, she never really got the full benefit of an art education because the interpreters weren't completely hip to art jargon. At the deaf school where she got her B.F.A. the life drawing teachers didn't even teach sighting and measuring....
I think what you're doing is great because many art students (myself included) got the S**t end of the stick from professors who were in it more for a cushy job than for training their future competition...
It'd be great if Deaf and Hard of Hearing people could somehow be included too - a stenographer, maybe?
Anyway, thanks Mad, for bringing this up.



Pochifux,

I went through the same thing a decade ago because of my hearing-impairment at the art school. However, I was the only one there since it's a private institute and one that was closest to where I lived at. Looking back, I'm a bit ticked off that the professors never truly bothered discussing it in detail and always huddling up the class for a crit which I find disturbing and not practical and realistic which I won't go into since that's another thing to debate on. I know this is standard in all art schools but for some reason, I find it counter-productive.

As for the stenographer, you're thinking of a note-taker. Back in the day, they did have something like that, however, they are now replaced by professional captioners who use laptops for people who are deaf or hard of hearing to watch the dialogue LIVE on the laptop in the room where there are conferences or important meetings going about. I've used it a few times and it was awesome which I was able to follow with ease, instead of getting lost in the process.

EDIT: By the way, the live caption service I used was recent when I moved up to VT from OH (long story!) for a couple of meetings and a training seminar (part-time job unrelated to my career) about two years ago. I believe this has been a new approach, phasing out note-takers. Not only can I see the dialogue LIVE between people, I can also request a copy of the transcript afterwards by email. The best part was that I did'nt have to pay for it since it was paid for by my employer and the state in separate ocassions.

I don't sign at all and read lips which takes years of practice and training. The good thing about my art school was that the professors were 1:1 with the students, however, the system needs a lot of work to improve on.

Was the deaf school you mentioned by any chance in Rochester or Gallaudet? PM message me if you wish to continue this dialogue.

Cheers.

-A

[arteric]

QUESTION: If you buy the event but don't participate live and don't watch it for a week or so, where do you go on the site to view it when you are ready?

I REALLY want to see this. I am not available at the time of the live event so I think I am going to have to buy this and watch it at some point in the next 30 days. Won't be able to ask questions but I think the information alone will be invaluable.

[navate]

I signed up. This is just what I need.


I missed the color theory class but I hope you'll re-run it sometime so I can attend that as well. :) I'm strapped for cash but $95 per class is a drop in the bucket for knowledge like this. Thank you so much for giving us your time, Jason. I look forward to tomorrow!

[Goog]

pleeeease make this downloadable for the future, I need money!

[DragonflyRina]

Thanks Jason,

Looking forward to it! My hubby and I caught your Colour Theory class and we learned a ton. We'll have to watch it later as we won't be around for most of Saturday.

[Surion]

Great initiative!

But i don't like it you're spamming my facebook inbox and that way also my mailbox. So please, less mails! more deeds!

[Belinda Morris]

Hey Jason that's great to hear about the workshop and the updating of the site! I was just wondering if my being in Australia would be a problem to getting the download?
And by the way, this site is a God send! I remember nearly 10 years ago when Star Wars the Phantom Menace came out combing the internet for information about working as a concept artist, and coming up with nothing :( The only thing I could find close to it was becoming a Graphic Designer and specialising in illustration. As part of the course I've been doing we do a unit called Concept Design- and I love it! I love coming up with new worlds, cultures, environments, costumes and creatures, and I'm really loving digital painting! So now I have refound your site a couple of weeks ago and have uploaded some stuff (unfortunately the cost of uploading via broadband has restricted me somewhat). So thanks what you and the rest of the team are doing- with this site and Massive Black- for someone on the other side of the world it's a God send! :^^:

[SpaceArt]

"Those haven't done it who haven't began it!" --Dr. Spook from Another Universe

[verity_lane]

$95 - wow - thanks for sharing

[Pochifux]

Great initiative!

But i don't like it you're spamming my facebook inbox and that way also my mailbox. So please, less mails! more deeds!
If he hadn't "spammed" my facebook inbox, I wouldn't have known about this, and I'd be one more chump who only knows bits and pieces about the industry.
So I personally thank Jason for the head's up in my inbox, because now "i've got a gol-den ti-cket :pump:"

[Verithin]

System Specs would be GREAT to have... I've signed up as well and am hoping my ol' Dual PROC G4MAC will be able to handle the gigabytes of knowledge that Jason will be sharing.

Also... when do we get the password to join the thread... tomorrow morning just before?

Looking forward to this!

[ShroudStar]

In! :) So I guess that means I'll be logging on at 1:45 EST?

Can't wait.

[PieterV]

Hey Jason.
How about adding a countdown timer like this one somewhere? :)

http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?day=1&month=08&year=2009&hour=1pm&min=0&sec=0&p0=24

[Hive_minD]

Hey Jason.
How about adding a countdown timer like this one somewhere? :)

http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?day=1&month=08&year=2009&hour=1pm&min=0&sec=0&p0=24

splendid idea!

[Nigh7shad3]

I'm broke right now, but I believe in investing for the future :yayca:

[Intervain]

yeah a timer is a great idea :) - the time zones always confuse me.

Anyway, got my password - waiting for tomorrow's class :):lounge:

[Kiriko]

Do I need to contact someone for the password or will it be sent automatically?

[Puck]

I'd like a bit more info on the stream - especially how much download it will take. I'm in a position right now where I'll have to pay in advance for the megabytes, which means I have to take a guess at how many megabytes it will use up (and waste any that I don't use as they will expire in a few days).

[Hive_minD]

Do I need to contact someone for the password or will it be sent automatically?

take a look what it says on the bottom of the CA shop where you clicked to pay. It explains how to get your password ;)

EDIT > Here it is: copied and pasted:

If you do not get your password please follow these steps after checking your spam box and checking the .txt file with your confirmation email:

1. After you pay and get your order confirmation, you need to click the link to check the status, and then scroll to the bottom. 2. There is a box to enter your "Card or Account Number" that you used to pay for the class. Enter your card or account number info and click "Apply". ***NOTE: If you paid with Paypal rather than a credit card, then it asks you for your E-mail address instead.*** 3. When the page reloads after clicking apply, there will be a blue "Download" button that appears under the class name (in the top right "Your Order" box of your order's summary). 4. Click the download button to get the password for the class.

[arteric]

Got my password. I am going to miss the entire thing on Saturday, but plan on watching it and getting my MASSIVE *ahem* amount of notes written down by the end of August. Thanks for this incredible info and for all you are doing!!!!

[Liffey]

Well I can't afford it, and at the same time I can't afford to miss it... decided to go for it though! Paid in full, can't wait for tomorrow!

[Hookswords]

I just bought it and followed the directions to make sure everything worked. I'm really excited about this. This might be what I need to really get going on my own. I'm a little leary about how this is all going to work, but I hope it does without a hitch. So the thread where you use the password to get in is where I'll be able to see video?

[NeoNirvana]

Yeah seriously, I'd pay twice that much if it was available to download. I mean this pretty much makes you resort to the ol' pen and pad for reference... T_T

[bWorx]

woohoo! I'm in! just got the password now and this will be my very first class participation here here in CA.org. Pretty exiting. My only concern is 12:45 Central Daylight Time is around 2 AM here in AU, hope my eyes won't be that heavy and I can stay awake and focused.

[Karato]

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[zeal]

yes you do NOT need to be live to participate. You can jump in and stream it. Youll get what you need out of it the first time you watch it. Id doubt you would even need to watch it again. Really. I have it all put together like common sense...good stuff.

If I buy this and miss the live class will I be able to watch the video unlimited times for the next 30 days if I wanted to?

Thanks for sharing this good business stuff.

[moh]

Can't spare the cash or time! It's finals week for summer and I'm up to my ears in bills now!

Please please please tell me you'll repeat this course some time soon, and preferably not the day after on Sunday, but maybe next weekend?

[stoph]

i'm gonna be johnny-thick-skull and ask the obvious question, but i need to know (in no uncertain terms) how this thing is to go down...

if i cannot make it to the "live" stream, but have paid for the course, am i able to watch how it went down in the coming days, without the "live" aspect (ie chat, Q&A)? 95 bones is a big wad for me to blow on something that im not 100% clear on, so i dont wanna assume and be disappointed.

if Jason (or anyone else in the know) can clear this one up for me (and others, no doubt) once and for all, i'd appreciate it greatly.

[Hive_minD]

i'm gonna be johnny-thick-skull and ask the obvious question, but i need to know (in no uncertain terms) how this thing is to go down...

if i cannot make it to the "live" stream, but have paid for the course, am i able to watch how it went down in the coming days, without the "live" aspect (ie chat, Q&A)? 95 bones is a big wad for me to blow on something that im not 100% clear on, so i dont wanna assume and be disappointed.

if Jason (or anyone else in the know) can clear this one up for me (and others, no doubt) once and for all, i'd appreciate it greatly.

I spoke to Jason the other day and you can infact watch the stream after it has gone live. I saw somewhere that it is 30days after max, but don't take my word on that detail for I am not certain myself about it. But don't worry. I did the same. Only if I am reaaaally lucky will I actually make the live show, if not. I'll be taking insane notes during the late hours of the night!

Chris

[Halix]

ah phooey, got a jazz concert to go to, would like to add my support for downloads of these. Im sure it will be packed out like the last one :)

[Jason Manley]

Great initiative!

But i don't like it you're spamming my facebook inbox and that way also my mailbox. So please, less mails! more deeds!

More deeds? I already put in 15000 volunteer hours here since 2002. How bout you? three hundred posts is a lot of bandwidth here. You do realize that this stuff pays for you to use this site right?

And yes, you can watch this, and the color theory course still if you sign up. Both are available. If you wish to do the color theory course still just send me a pm. if you want to do this one go ahead and pick it up and watch whenever you like.

Neither will be available on download. Both those are streaming only due to the previous piracy issues.


jason

[Hive_minD]

I must say. I haven't actually noticed so many emails from Jason via Facebook, so don't really know what thats all about. Anyways, it's just to dissaible email notifications under stettings if it's such a problem.

[stoph]

thanks for clearing that up, Jason, sorry for the dumb questions. looking forward to the getting of wisdom!

[Jason Manley]

there werent that many. I sent one group notification for this course. That's it.

see you guys soon!!!


jason

[Wasker]

ah, fuk it. I'll buy this one aswell.

[mcaseybickley]

I hate myself for not having the money to participate! I am trying to built a portfolio as we speak to get some freelance work and I know that this lecture would be key. Please consider selling this as a download, dvd or I would even pay for the lecture in type!
I'm gonna start saving what little I can afford so in the future I can be there.

Please! Please! give us some way to see this later.

[Jason Manley]

this will be up all month for peeps who cant make it live. will leave the tuition open in the store.

for those who want the color theory you can pick it up by sending a paypal for the tuition to aaron@massiveblack.com It will be up another three weeks.


jason

[UnidColor]

Ah cheers Jason Manley! I will do that later than!:)

[Oxide-0]

Will we be able to watch the stream twice if its up for the next 30 days? that would be really helpfull to getting the most i can out of it

[calyx]

Edit: scrap that. Getting all excited now!!

[Noiram]

my password that I got is not working

[Oxide-0]

Im having a slight issue with getting my password " * This order is pending review.

* Note: Your order is pending review. You will not be able to download items until your order is reviewed and approved. Please contact us if you have any questions"

any ideas? also there was no .txt file in my confirmation email i assume this is all because i need to be approved

[Biggles]

I'm also struggling to find the password. I paid via paypal, I've got an email in my inbox confirming payment, but with no attachments or mention of a password, just says order from lotsoflettersandnumbers - the Conceptart.org Online Store. I've tried using that as a password, but it doesn't work.

I've tried going in to my paypal account to see if there is a download button anywhere, as I believe that was mentioned somewhere, but can't find anything.

Any advice, anyone?!?!?!

[Hive_minD]

1. After you pay and get your order confirmation, you need to click the link to check the status, and then scroll to the bottom.

2. There is a box to enter your "Card or Account Number" that you used to pay for the class. Enter your card or account number info and click "Apply". ***NOTE: If you paid with Paypal rather than a credit card, then it asks you for your E-mail address instead.***

3. When the page reloads after clicking apply, there will be a blue "Download" button that appears under the class name (in the top right "Your Order" box of your order's summary).

4. Click the download button to get the password for the class.

Chris

[calyx]

Biggles, in the first email you received after paying with paypal, click on the link after "You can always find out the current status of your order by going to(...)".

There, at the bottom, enter your email, then the blue button will appear on the top right side. That's how i found mine!

[Noiram]

for me I have the instructions with my peronal password downloaded but it does not seem to work, just keeps says admin requires password after I hit the login button
I have done both typing it in and cutting pasting even tried it with caps and not

[Dace]

Never did this before, what should you see once you are in and does it work on Safari.

[Meli Hitchcock]

Okay, so what happens if our download is no longer available to us? I wasn't aware that I had to do that (I was under the impression a separate email would be sent out with the password) and apparently 8 hours from the time I ordered this my download already expired. :[

[Jason Ross]

Same here.
"Unfortunately, the item you are attempting to download is no longer available.
Please contact the merchant if you have any questions. "

So I guess that either we can watch it later or get reimbursed...Frustrating since the first 15 minutes of logging onto CA.org it seemed that the forum server was overloaded and pages wouldn't load for 3-5 minutes then came up as an error.

[smokenmirrors]

ditto, same problem

[Mr. Visions]

I too am having the same problem.
"Unfortunately, the item you are attempting to download is no longer available.
Please contact the merchant if you have any questions. "

[Jason Ross]

I wouldn't mind coming in now and just watching the previous hour or so later...just need that DL renewed.

[Mr. Visions]

I'm sure this was something unexpected and they're working on it as we type. Again, it's new. I'll just checking be back every 5 minutes or so -

[Mr. Visions]

Is there anyone from CA who can give an update? Did anyone else get there's to work?

[Rutts]

I'd love it to be D/L'able I can't attend today but i would buy it fa sure

[Moai]

The class was great, Jason. Thank you so much!!

[Mr. Visions]

Still getting:

Unfortunately, the item you are attempting to download is no longer available.
Please contact the merchant if you have any questions.

Any idea when this can be resolved. I don't mean to be to anxious, but this is something I really am needing to hear.

[arteric]

I missed the live viewing so I've come to check it out tonight. I copied and pasted the exact url for the thread as sent in the .txt file, my password worked and I am in no problem, but as of 8:35 PM Eastern Time, the video is not working.

The message I get is "Sorry, the channel owner has prohibited viewing this channel from this web page."

I am in no rush to see this tonight Jason, but I wanted to make you aware of the issue at this time. Thanks!

- Eric

[Jason Manley]

I have to switch some settings. It will be live again within the next 24 hours, for those who wish to review. Crazy that it is at least working though. I need to make an FAQ regarding the passwords and what to do if you are having issues on your side. I will meet with livestream come monday morning and see if we can get some of the issues resolved. All in all it seems only a few each time are having serious issues due to connection problems (like whatever is wrong with Italy's internet). I will give livestream feedback on Monday.


So hopefully you all got some things out of this class that made it worth the support. Really you all. Thank you thank you. It will get better. I will run some tests with the other two companies to compare services and features as well.



Jason

[Samuel Gray]

Hey Jason I am not sure if I fit in the category of other people not being able to connect but only after listening to around 1 hour of you speaking everything cut off on me. I since then have tried over and over to get back on with different internet connections but still no luck. I think it has to do with the authorization because it says I do not have access to the feed on the livestream once I am already in the thread. I am not really sure what to do so if anyone can guide me that would be great.

[Jason Manley]

the classes are closed tonight due to the channel switching we have to do. I hope to have them back on within 24 hours. Lemme know tomorrow night if you were not able to get it to work out.

Should be fine. We are going to cut it all up so it streams better.


j

[Samuel Gray]

Ok thats cool with me Jason, whatever you guys need to do. I am glad I am able to support! And thanks again.

[Duq]

I have been trying to get my password. But when I use the steps, and I click the download button I get

"Unfortunately, the item you are attempting to download is no longer available.
Please contact the merchant if you have any questions. "

Is there a way I can still get the password? I'm already bumming out as it is, that I missed the live lecture.

[PoopyPantsPoopyPants]

so you want us to give you money to tell us on how to make money? no thanks



Comment addition by me- JasonM: "lol. your post just cost conceptart.org money. Every time you post it does. Every page you view we pay gladly and without question. Considering the amount of volunteer time that it takes to run this joint your post is pretty discouraging. I mean your primary use of this site is to make your money, given where you post. This comes on the backs of CA and the volunteers. Funny that your comments are discouraging but you have an appreciation for the services here that support of CA provides. Without the community supporting this stuff we could not be here to do it.

Maybe think before posting. Those who saw the video will know why you making that post was a bad decision."

[Verithin]

so you want us to give you money to tell us on how to make money? no thanks

Isn't that the basis of almost any education? Public education is funded by taxes (your money) and private education is funded by tuition (again... YOUR money if you choose to go).

If you don't feel like this investment in yourself is warranted then cool... that's totally your choice. But complaining because you have to spend money to learn how to be better at something, especially if its a seminar on how to be a better entrepreneur given by one of the BEST in the field?

Does not compute in my books...

Certainly I signed up so I could learn some things (which I did, or at least was given a kick-in-the-ass reminder of a few others) BUT... I also did it to support this incredible community from which I have learned and earned so much. I want it to continue to grow and support artists...

So it was a win, win for me on a number of levels.

Kudos to Jason and his team....

[Thaw Naing]

talking of investments..
i pushed a client this morning using the smarts i learnt from Jason yesterday and got myself an extra $200 that I would normally wouldn't have. so, so far, the lecture has already paid for it self. And this is the short term effect, the long term effect will be immense i feel.
Thanks for everything team.

[Jason Manley]

YAY!!!!!!

free money is always nice. Keep pushing...over time it will be a LOT more than that. I remember coro and andrew telling me back in the day that I had to go ask the client for the money cuz I was the one who could say those numbers with a straight face. Keep your game face on folks. It will pay off.

[MiniGoth]

I'm so relieved I could cry :)

I don't get funds until next week and I really wanted to take this class; now I can.

[LordZontar]

Wish I had known about this more in advance - didn't get the chance to actually look at my e-mail until yesterday and I'm usually so busy with my job at the newspaper I work for that it leaves me little time for extracurricular activities after a hard day. I've only just started my first real vacation in a year and that after going full-tilt at the office since May and being reminded that I had to start using some of my accrued leave-time.

Any chance of producing an edited DVD version of this and other courses for sale? This might a) help obviate some of the piracy issues which have been mentioned and b) act as another source of revenue generation to support this website while also fulfilling c) ConceptArt.org's educational mission.

[bluemonika]

i would love to have been able to join a class like this one as well. i see that people are talking about receiving emails about this..how can i receive an email as a remainder of the next class? :)

[JHuntsman]

just so I'm following...This IS available for download, but, it's not working at the moment. I was not able to make it live, but, would love to download. I went to the store site, but, i just saw info about the class - not a purchase button. Is this what you are working on Jason? Will the purchase button be back tonight when it's ready for streaming.

Education is invaluable. Thank you so much for spreading knowledge!

Jamie

[RPM]

im also interested in viewing this but theres no where to purchase in the store, just info..



RPM

[cdejong]

Yes, I'm not sure if this class is available to download if you didn't buy it beforehand? If so Jason, it'd be pretty cool if you still allowed us to buy it for a while. I really wanted to make it to one of these seminars, because all I hear is about how much people learned there. I wouldn't mind paying full price to be able to watch the video post-seminar.

Thanks for making these happen Jason and all you Conceptart.org guys, these downloads and seminars are absolutely amazing learning tools, and it feels great knowing that the money spent is going back into fueling the community.

[smokenmirrors]

sooooo any updates on those of us that did pay the day of... but for one reason or another couldnt get our passwords and thus see/partake of the live class??? just thirsty for some knowledge that I wish I couldve quenched two days ago. :P

[Kiriko]

Should we start a testimonial thread? ;)
Just one little tiny tip from the seminar helped me land a gig doing a few quick concept sketches for $300.

I can't argue that the class was well worth the investment.

[Maija]

I am also one who paid the day of the course, but can't get to my password. It still says:
"Unfortunately, the item you are attempting to download is no longer available. Please contact the merchant if you have any questions."

How is it going with fixing this? Just want to know when I'll be able to watch.

[Jason Manley]

We will have it solved shortly. There was a switch to the new channel plan and we have had to move a lot of files around. i appreciate your patience. Once this is done it is resolved permanently and won't happen again. Thank goodness. Learning the new tech is a patient game.

I will have time to look into this again in a few hours and see if it is resolved. Please bear with me. We are almost set with everything and will have it all resolved within 24 hours. Then the classes are set from here on out. No more moving vids..no more headaches for me at five am :)

The colour theory course is back online and streaming.


j

[Pilgrim1099]

Should we start a testimonial thread? ;)
Just one little tiny tip from the seminar helped me land a gig doing a few quick concept sketches for $300.

I can't argue that the class was well worth the investment.

Good for you. However, I'm a bit confused though. Is this your very first gig in concept art or have you been established already in the field? It would make sense for the latter if you are able to command that much of a fee.

I wish I was able to learn from this seminar to get my career back on track.

Cheers,

-A

[JHuntsman]

Thanks Jason - looking forward to this one - and now the new one on Sunday for composition. I'll keep checking back to the store. Hopefully it will be up sooner rather than later. I actually have a little free time today.

[Kiriko]

Good for you. However, I'm a bit confused though. Is this your very first gig in concept art or have you been established already in the field? It would make sense for the latter if you are able to command that much of a fee.


I'm not terribly established, no, but it's certainly not my first job. This isn't concept art for a game, it's concept sketches for an illustrated graphic to be used with a logo. Basically, $300 for a few thumbnails and a clean rough sketch.

[Pilgrim1099]

I'm not terribly established, no, but it's certainly not my first job. This isn't concept art for a game, it's concept sketches for an illustrated graphic to be used with a logo. Basically, $300 for a few thumbnails and a clean rough sketch.

Gotcha :)

[bWorx]

We will have it solved shortly. There was a switch to the new channel plan and we have had to move a lot of files around. i appreciate your patience. Once this is done it is resolved permanently and won't happen again. Thank goodness. Learning the new tech is a patient game.

I will have time to look into this again in a few hours and see if it is resolved. Please bear with me. We are almost set with everything and will have it all resolved within 24 hours. Then the classes are set from here on out. No more moving vids..no more headaches for me at five am :)

The colour theory course is back online and streaming.


j


thanks jason, good to hear that. At least I'm seeing some light ahead. Too bad I had to experience these on my first class

[JHuntsman]

Any word on getting this up an running? Pretty anxious to view. Thanks.

[MerQueen69]

ok, i finally read through all the comments, and glad to hear the stream will still be available to purchase and watch post event (bloody hotmail put the memo into junk!!!)

And like everyone else here id like to say a big thankyou for your efforts, it just suprises and ashames me that your the only one whos willing to share this knowledge.. but we have to start somewhere right? so thanks!!
Im liking peoples ideas of building dvd tutorials- if that covers against copywrite, there cant be much to loose if you just burn on demand :)

And the nightclasses sound like a great idea but that might be better as like a monthly fee rather than paying amounts up to 4 times a week... although apparrently your the financial expert here so... let the learning begin!!!

[captain-brushpen]

Really frustrated-- I paid for the class on the Friday before it happened and the $95 was deducted by paypal, yet I never received any access code. I've tried to email Jason Manley and Aaron; no response. I'm feeling more poor than ever, and I'm out of reasonable places to email to ask for support for this. Any suggestions?


<b>[Edit: wow, the CA guys were awesome with follow-up-- one of them called my cell to help me get the password. Thanks, guys!]</b>

[Aenhimal]

@captain-brushpen send an email to scooter [ scooter@massiveblack.com ] and explain your situation, maybe he can send you the code so you can see the class on demand.

Good luck

[Maija]

Yay! I finally managed to get to my password, so that seems to be fixed. Now I just have to decide some hours in the weekend when I'll decide to see how the course itself works!

[Jason Manley]

Check your pm's

Also, check your spambox if you do not see it a few people have had theirs end up in there. if there are issues with the pass, hitting up scooter@massiveblack.com will work for you.


Jason

[Jason Manley]

Really frustrated-- I paid for the class on the Friday before it happened and the $95 was deducted by paypal, yet I never received any access code. I've tried to email Jason Manley and Aaron; no response. I'm feeling more poor than ever, and I'm out of reasonable places to email to ask for support for this. Any suggestions?


I do not see any email from you...and your code should have been mailed to you. You can always send me a pm here too...but check your pm's and it should be fixed. If you have any questions after the course just hit me up on pm and I will answer them for you. personally Cool?


Jason

[Line]

I'm interested in watching this, since I missed it when it was live, but I just checked out a show at livestream.com and the video and sound was very choppy (my connection probably), so I dunno how it's gonna be if I purchase the lecture. Any info on that from anyone?

Also, am I going to be able, once I pay for it, to re-watch it multiple times, or in sessions? Or is it available only once?

Sorry for these dumb questions, I'm not really familiar with this stuff.

[yoitisi]

Line: The live streaming classes seem to work very well in terms of video and sound, apart from the occassional minor hiccup for some people (in the on-demand version some words get repeated once or twice in the video). Italy seems to have some trouble yet, though this has been reported to the company that made the software and is being worked on.

The lectures are available 30 days after the live version is given so you can rewatch it as much as you want in that time period.

[Line]

yoitisi: Thanks for the information, I'm off to pay for the lecture. :)

[Serpian]

Is the class really four hours long? I would gladly pay a bit more than the normal price to be able to download this to my computer and watch it over a longer period of time as I rarely have four hours straight without anything important to do.

[L-DLS]

I have created a new thread which I hope will serve other artist out there who want to go freelance.. this is what happen to me while i was contacted to do some illustrations.

http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2389371#post2389371

hope ya guys give me ur views and suggestions on these.

Looking forward for a response from Jason on this. thanks again.

[Theking78]

Hey Jason, how is the process of getting this video available in HD going? Now it's in a very poor definition. Any news? Thank you!

[blackberry8100]

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[Kelly Thomas]

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[Serpian]

To you that have bought this after the live date: Did you also get a 'your order is pending review' note when you paid? How long did it take for your order to be reviewed? I ordered it this Sunday, not knowing I would have to wait to get access to the video. I was dissapointed that I couldn't watch it on that Sunday as I rarely have a day off. But as long as I can watch the whole of it before the end of the month, I'm happy. I'm just wondering how long I will have to wait...

[Serpian]

Never mind, I'm in now!

[Lenovo]

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[Serpian]

Is part three supposed to be missing though? And it sounds to me like there's a jump between parts one and two, but I'm not really sure...

EDIT: Has Jason answered the questions here in the forums like he said he would in the lecture? I understand if you've been too busy, but I might have missed it too...

[Jason Manley]

I have been working with livestream to see if I can re-obtain the sound for part 3. If I do not have it solved by tomorrow when I return to Austin I will re-record and upload this weekend. Until then I am keeping that live for 30 days regardless. Future presentations should have this solved, thank goodness.

Thanks for your patience.


Jason

[mrcrinkles]

^^I'll wait on ordering it then until it's fixed

thanks for making this website Jason.
SAVED MY LIFE by helping me to reimagine it. :asskisser:

[zeal]

I would like to add one site here hope all the people searching for information on freelancer will find it helpful it's call http://freelancerguru.com/..

That website link sucks. Why waste peoples time on here promoting some piece of crap website? Have them click a link when they should stay on conceptart and get inspired. Raarrr!

[Liffey]

Speaking of freelance work, I found this posting on Craigslist in VT at:

*link removed*

I don't know if the OP client was smoking something, but it was quite a bit suspicious.

-A

Heh, go take a look at the job section in the dA forums. :P

[critenlee]

Have them click a link when they should stay on conceptart and get inspired. Raarrr!
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[Just Call Me Bruce!]

Any news on part 3?

Thanks

[Jason Manley]

No luck with livestream. I am going to have to re-record the missing sound file this week when I return. I know what is missing so that will be easy to do. Was just hoping to have the original content.

will update shortly....

[Serpian]

That is very good to hear! Will the hosting timeframe be extended for this (I believe normally it would be the last day tomorrow?), or will there be some other arrangement?

[Theking78]

No luck with livestream. I am going to have to re-record the missing sound file this week when I return. I know what is missing so that will be easy to do. Was just hoping to have the original content.

will update shortly....

And about the poor video quality of the parts thaty are currently online now? There's a chance to have the in HD as the other live courses?

[ABCD-Clover]

I also want to know how much longer will this video be available? Does it finish today? I'd really want to purchase this but guess it would take one day pending time =[

[Just Call Me Bruce!]

I know you must be busy, but it's not long till the 4th (when it runs out for me) and there still isn't a 3rd part so it would be really great if we could get an extension till the 3rd part was up plus a few days to watch

[renderwhite]

Please make this streaming available during September.

Thanks.

[Jason Manley]

this is being fixed now. will update shortly. The extension is being given for 30 days...no worries. we were fortunate and have finally located and have a sound file to pull the missing minutes from. I will update the thread in the next day or so.


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[Jason Manley]

Ya know...all the hubbub and I realize I am missing thirty seconds of me saying: Use good photos of yourself in your FB profile and think about how you are perceived. That is the whole gist of the missing comment. My apologies for the confusion. Problem addressed. We can continue on. I will keep the video up regardless as a show of thanks for putting up with my confusion on what was missing. The video file was really short...and that was the missing comment. That is all out of all those hours..so thanks.

[Serpian]

So that was all that was missing all along? Well I'm going to listen through the whole thing again nevertheless to make sure I get everything. Thank you again for this lecture, it's stuff like this that we really need!

[fersteger]

Can we see this course on demand still?? If not, is any of this covered in any of the downloads? Maybe the Business of Art class?

Will this course be run again anytime soon if it's not available right now? Thanks!!:yayca:

[goat27]

I was really hoping to get in on this one too, how much longer will it be available?

[fersteger]

Just watched it, it's still on demand. Thanks for making these!:yayca: